The biggest question I always had with Genshin is, where is the horses you’re telling me we’re getting the character who ride on the motorcycle before we have even horses? Keaya is still walking to this day💀
I also absolutely hate how they've erased previous Natlan lore. The whole bunch of natlanians was brought to old Mondstadt as slaves, Vanessa was one of them and fought at Colosseum. She then overthrew the aristocracy and founded Ordo Favonius. Absolutely badass lady! She also ascended to Celestia. And now they tell us that Natlan people can't leave their country due to Wayob bullshit. Vanessa is now not from Natlan or what? Or official manga is not canon? Apparently yes, because they've even removed prologue about Vanessa from CN official page right before Natlan release. English is still there tho. It looks like Natlan lore was changed in rushed manner to make it more "fun colorful and friendly" for a new audience. F that! And also Capitano dying instead of Mavuika is total bs! I dont even want to play this garbage game anymore.
I a little dissagree with point about Capitano, cause he is not "died" for Mavuika, its just cause himself cause of immortality for trolling Ronova + his heart have souls of his nation. But Natlan still looks like missing a lot of details, like that: - why noone notice experiments on saurians made by fatui? - how logistic in natlan wokrs? Cause we have a part of Nathan for tourism lol - they are literally slaves of their fates cause the ancient heroes. Example: all Malipo died in tragic way, so Kinich died the same way
Mavuika clearly stated that Natlanese can leave natlan but at the cost of huge memory loss due to their unique connection with the night kingdom and fractured leylines. Have you even played the game before complaining? It is litteraly in the main quest. Also, Vanessa left natlan thousands of years ago, what did you expect, to see the miracolus retourn of her now dispersed tribe in natlan just because we went there? But of course the developers had time to change an entire 1 or 2 years of work in the blink of an eye just because they wanted to make natlan more colorfull, especially after all the positive review about fontaine being dark and misterious. What did do you expect, to find a nation that has been on the bring of destruction for millenials? That would make no sense, there's no way the region would still exist nowaday if everyday was as the 5.2 quest, and of course people cooperate to survive if their lives are at stakes against something far more powerfull that they are
The reason why the technology worked so well in the other regions was because it had a mechanical and lore reason for being a part of it. Liyue is more mystical focusing on adepti abilities to power their functions, Sumeru was also highly mystical in nature, tying in the lore of the world tree and leylines storing memories for people to draw information from. This technology was also powered by the gnosis. As a nation centered around leylines and research it was not weird at all and it is easily incorporated into the region. And if people want to talk about the boss fight with a mecha, they literally hinted at that since Childe's character quest when they let us know that they were researching the ruinguard factories. They utilized past technology to create the false god. Fontaine too, is utilizing ancient technology that they have entire research centers dedicated to studying so it's not strange at all. Meanwhile Natlan attempts to touch on the technology of theirs being left behind by the dragons but the common people do not utilize it. More commonly than not most people barely know how to use it, the closest they can get is utilizing phlogiston but it is not incorporated into the every day lives of the people in a way that makes them seem knowledgeable of the ancient tech. They could have remedied this by having more technology present in the villages to make it a little less jarring that ONLY the limited characters seem to have access to these items but instead we have to deal with how primitive the rest of the nation is. There's no reason for them to not be using the tech if they have it which is why it's so weird. Now if they had it be like, okay instead of dinosaurs, you can find these ancient mechanisms left behind by the dragons you can do this etc. Like robots are well established in genshin since the beginning! We could have had robot vehicles exclusive to Natlan that would have been normal! It would also better utilize the whole dragon technology BS they keep trying to give us and excuse the reason why this tech is not spread out to other nations. We could have kept the dinosaurs are a cute side thing because so far Khaenri'ah has made many robots based on living creatures. The dragons doing the same isn't odd at this point. Anyways. Those are my thoughts.
The Pyro Archons design makes absolutely zero sense not just in Natlan, but the entire game. Fontaine is the most advanced region by far, yet they don't have motor bikes. We haven't had anything like this in any part of the game. It was the most random design i've seen out of all characters. Chasca has a big gun, which we've seen before and at least can maybe link it to a potential technology she acquired in Fontaine..but Mavuika's just doesn't fit at all.
that's still not really a good reason. Even Fontaine's setting still fits with the whole of Genshin by making the sci-fi part of it still have magic and still restrictive but still part of the style that is Genshin. Not Natlan does not fit within Genshin and more so seems like Honkai Impact 3rd levels of designs.
@@RagingRevine Sexy Quetzalcoatl/Huitzilopochtli (literal god of war and sun...) inspired archon, fitting to region ❌ lame great value black widow on bike ✅
Imagine living in a tribal community and then suddenly your friend pulled out a pixelated saurian, a giant flying gun, and a plastic toy shark. They could have used a unique saurian as part of their skill like an aquatic saurian for Mualani, an anemo drake for Chasca and a shadowy dendro saurian for Kinich
Was excited when the pyro archon will be the himeko of genshin only to realise a fricking archon is wearing a latex and ride a motorcycle, easy skip, thought she will have more divine design
I’d written a whole essay on this! Just make Natlan characters summon and ride Saurians from their clan. Then make Mauvuika summon every dragon. Just let us have mounts! It works so well with the world building and would feel less out of place. Saurians are cute and all the npcs already have saurian pets! I’d rather play as an npc riding a bat or bird saurian vs Mauvuika on a motorcycle. They can even reuse saurian models and recolor them to look rarer and cooler for 5*s. Natlan feels like such a missed opportunity.
In Natlan's lore, people have strong relationships with Saurians. They could have just had the characters summon their dino friend instead of the weird shit they're doing.
Mavuika had hers (course it has died fro the time passed) but the preview trailer showed a fenix (perhaps the developers will show it is xbalanque), question is WHY SHE DOES NOT HAVE A SAURIAN COMPANION IN GAMEPLAY, even fischl has Oz ¿?, it hurts me more for being in latinamerica and i don't see any cultural character with they're respective animal.
They have close ties in that they are treated as family, not as pets or mounts. The closest to the mount thing are the Flower-Feather clan members, and even they have to *earn* the right to ride them, not just because they are prideful. They also all imitate the saurians as a way of respect instead of having them used for everything.
IMO, I think Natlan characters were changed at the last minute because of WuWa. I remember seeing the concept art of the pyro archon (pre-WuWa) and she turned out completely different. She doesn't even dress like the rest of the people in her nation.
@thomaskennedy5728 Maybe that's true. However, when I first saw her in-game model, I said, "She looks like a biker chic. Wouldn't it be funny if she road a motorcycle like the Inferno Rider from WuWa?" Personally, I would have preferred her design be closer to the concept art.
"Dehya is one of the most beautiful women in the game." Brother, give me a hug. I like her the most in the game. But what Hoyo did is unforgivable. Hoyo never valued the players, and I'm tired of it. Dehya is one of the reasons I stopped playing Genshin. And after that, I was very happy to get to know Kuro after I stopped playing Genshin.
That's the Hoyoverse or formerly known as MiHoyo in nutshell, at the end of the day, their old habits with misadventure mistakes never gets off even the newest game they have, HSR and ZZZ won't stay much long to be generous until someone breaking their neck with greed
I hate both Inazuma and Natlan but you're wrong there. Inazuma skipped the entire war segment and rushed to conclusion. They showed the resistance against Shogun in cutscene like when Kazuha saves the traveller and gorou and army charge at Shogun that's all cutscenes and there was no build up to it. Kokomi was just projected as a opposing leader/strategist but the game never actually backed it with actions. She's not even 10% of Alhaitham or Cyno. But Natlan actually had us play segments where we were fighting the Abyss. It shows the effect of Abyss on characters like the recent archon quest where we help out NPCs suffering from PTSD while fighting the Abyss
@@ArthurShotgun Inazuma's Archon Quest was pure GARBAGE. All cutscenes, no action, and especially no meaningful build-up to them. Horrendous and rushed to hell writing. Pathetic "war".
@@ArthurShotgun i think op meant inazuma's region/environment and vibe in general. U could see how gloomy, depressing and abandoned some islands are. The world quest also depicts the post-war consequences rly well. I still remember chouji, a lil boy we bonded over and learned a recipe from, who was forced to sell crystal marrow bc he wants to flee from his empty village. Also, there was the whole cleansing sakura quest. Even some of the osts sounded very depressing and somber. It just tears my heart whenever I passed some of the iconic spots from the inazuma islands, especially tsurumi All those npcs suffered some sort of grief, and the only part where inazuma fumbled hard was the Archon Quest. I enjoyed my time exploring inazuma islands more than I enjoyed the AQ. The lands did feel like it barely survived from a war or disaster. So many corrosive colors etc. While natlan, the supposed nation of war, has theme parks and zoo, along with pokemons and graffiti arts XD
“You’re not ok with a motorcycle but you’re ok with a ruin guard?” Yes. Yes I am. Because ruin guards are from an ancient civilization that had access to said technology. Where is Mavuika’s garage? Should have been a phoenix 🐦🔥 instead of a motorcycle. I mean her character design was such easy low hanging fruit. She literally brings people back from the dead through the sacred flame.
Xilonen's house is Mavuika's garage. Most all parts came from ancient Ochkanatlan civilization which was the most technolocally advanced civilization in all Teyvat and the reason why the secret source automatons, for example, are LEAGUES more advanced than the ruin guards. I hope you quit genshin and find something else to play if motorcycles bother you that much.
@@Kyosukedono that’s no different then saying: “I hope you quit replying to my comment if what I say bothers you, and find another comment that you enjoy”… The truth is what I said DOES bother you. Just like Mavuika having a modern motorcycle DOES bother me… if I didn’t care and love the character from the story as much as I do then I wouldn’t bother commenting at all. But know this…. It’s only my own personal opinion. You do not have to share it. And I do respect that. And no.. Xilonin’s house has yet to produce anything close to a crotch rocket that I’ve seen. And even if Hoyo comes out and says that it has it would be a poor excuse to try to connect the dots. Did you ever play final fantasy 10? An advanced civilization with roads and skyscrapers and electricity gets absolutely reduced back to the stone age through catastrophe…. IF GENSHIN HAD PORTRAYED THE STORY TO REFLECT SOMETHING IN A SIMILAR WAY FOR NATLAN ID HAVE BEEN MORE RECEPTIVE OF THE CROTCH ROCKET. Example: an ancient ruin hovercraft that Xilonin retrofitted to be usable by Mavuika. That would have been more understandable. Still not as understandable as a phoenix mount or a dragon takeover form……. But “more understandable”.
@@Kyosukedono lmao. You mean that terrible retcon. We've known Khaenri'ah had giant robots since 1.0. We know literally nothing about Natlan since 4.8 besides it was a tribal nation of dragons. We get there expecting to see pyramids, people riding dragons, and an appropriately dressed warrior Archon, and we got freaking Pokémon
I honestly think the design of Natlan and the characters looks good ... but for another game. The evolution was just too sudden, adding flying guns and sharks and pixel art to what is currently a sword/bow/claymore/etc game. To me, it feels like they had an idea for a new game, but it fell through, and they just stuck it as a new patch to Genshin. I've made WuWa my main game, but I still play Genshin, because I actually do enjoy the exploration part. So I'm a little sad about them giving all the new characters these new travel mechanics, while not letting us have similar things for our old characters. I wish they would make it a little more fair at least, and not give people FOMO and force them to pull for the new characters. Then again, that was my main reason for slowly detaching myself for Genshin in the first place. Sigh.
ww more worst in character design lol, this stupid video created because china revenue report, 2024 is worst year for china economy and they can t spend money more to game. Then some stupid guy start talking and find reason to explain that. wtf? global revenue not thing happening here
at this point they should rework all Archon they released Nahida Riding a leaf Raiden Shogun riding lightning spear Venty riding wind cloud Zhongli riding meteor Furina driving titanic
Or they saw the gadgets in wuwa and how well it works and said "yeah we can do that but let's put them into 5 diff limited banner characters and make our players pay to get them"
@@raviolibirb8009 "Lets also handicap said gadgets because cant let our players have too much freedom hm? We gotta powercreep these exploration features in the future, watch our Snezhnaya character pull up a gundam with unlimited stamina"
Natlan "exploration" was what finally broke me after logging into Genshin everyday since launch. I just can't take it anymore, and I can't take people who are huffing copium, saying that Natlan improved exploration. This "improvement" is part "we have WuWa at home", part "let's take exploration mechanics we had in previous chapters and force players to either pay for them through specific 5* characters or make them go through 2 more steps to use those mechanics, except they are still super clunky and limited". Sure, I realized and somewhat accepted that Genshin won't improve long time ago, but in Natlan they managed to make the game worse. And don't get me started on character designs in Natlan. I won't deny that, for example, Xilonen or Mavuika are hot, however, a californian catgirl DJ on rollerblades and redhead supermodel in biker leathers are not something that comes to my mind when thinking about native/pre-colonial Mesoamerican cultures. And that goes to pretty much every character in Natlan. Not that other regions are great either. Fontaine was probably the best, Liyue and Inazuma were mostly ok, but Mondstadt and Sumeru were mixed bags, to put it mildly.
Same with me. Genshin was my primary game before but it feels odd that I'm enjoying Tower of Fantasy more. Maybe it's the auto exploration and mounts of ToF
Inazuma was DECENT at best for its aesthetics, but nothing more (I would say it's pathetic at worst). It's pure GARBAGE with its Story Quests and Archon Quest. Terribly-written and rushed to hell with worthless resolutions to them.
@@rickynguyen5108 Of couse, I only meant characters design, they at least (mostly) fit the apparent theme. As far as story goes, I'd say that Inazuma archon quest is an example of how not to design & write a story. Not only writing and pacing was terrible but Hoyo also decided to put some key information about what the hell is actually going on there in hidden notes and secret chain quests. Also, I suspect (half joking, half not) that Inazuma quest had a classic chinese anti-japanese bias as in order to this entire Inazuma debacle even happen, literally every single Inazuma character had to be rendered blind, deaf and retarded to not see Fatui stirring the shit from day 1. EDIT: spelling smh
I am so disappointed as this was supposed to be my nation. My culture finally getting explored...and got literally none of that. I was expecting more tribal and warrior designs like Iansan...but not a single other character even looks like they're from Natlan, much less Genshin in of itself.
Hola, same here and I wan't to ask if you remember those first domains with prehispanic architecture. By the time playing i haven't see a single ornamental with that style. Is now all dragon tecnological or something like that (were's the plazas, "aquaductos" and pyramids??)
Iansan and kachina got the better designs imo.. yet iansan who was shown as the introductory char in the gi road map is not even gonna be playable until at least 5.4 😭
@@rickynguyen5108 It's gets harder not to compare them when Hoyo makes it too easy. Like seriously yeah Mavuika can fly... But the rider in WuWa THROWS his bikes onto enemies. Also using the grappling hook, during battle, in WuWa feels better. At least for me.
17:26 They tried with Neuvilette before releasing Mualani, and boy they failed miserably, with his feature of spin to win, reducing it to none. And they got threatened to be sued and they revert it back lol, and we all know it's big coz they even gave apologems for it. Like wtf, u can buff char. alright, like what they did with Zhongli (and it's a whole other tangent) but nerfing them after they're released, it's just desperation to make even more stonks, and it's not even a circus act cause noone is amused
I was worried about it for a while but now Infinity Nikki exists so I'm like "yeah, whatever, I'll just play that instead". You know, if Genshin's characters kits are going to be a disappointing, clunky, buggy, underwhelming yet still somehow powercreeping but also region locked mess, I might as well just play a game where they can't ruin gameplay by limiting character kits because there aren't any character kits in the first place and the gacha only has clothes and accessories instead.
Natlan just feels like someone jammed a piece of another game into GI. Mualani surfboard was ok. Kinich pixels were weird but not completely unheard of since Nahida has similar elements in her animations. Maybe you could write it off as a dendro thing. Then it went further with the DJ stuff and finally with Chasca and Mavuika they just stopped giving a toss. Natlan has some nice aspects but it’s overall disappointing. Having two male characters is pathetic. Especially after waiting a YEAR between releasing a new male 5star. The banners keep getting repetitive and boring.
Feels like they saw everyone enjoying the WuWa exploration features (wall running and grapple) and implemented ithose in the form of character kits, then they decided "WE HAVE TO DO BETTER, LETS ALLOW OUR PLAYERS TO FLY!" and jammed a flying gun and bike as well... only to get beaten by WuWa again by the wings lol.
@@Gojiradogzillagodzilla The funny thing is Wuwa lets us do all that for free. Genshin on the other hand decided to charge money for most of it or make it super clunky (you can't swap between the Saurians and characters or between non Natlan characters, but some Natlan characters let you swap mid air while in Natlan).
There's nothing wrong with advanced technologies in high-fantasy genres. In fact, most books I've read I loved concepts like that. Sumeru and Fontaine did it well, the technologies aren't out of place and make sense, immersing you further to the lore and giving more color to the world. Natlan however, is a complete mess. technologies that have no connections to lore are suddenly thrown at you to make it more popular, have no connections to the lore and don't make sense. Suspension of disbelief can only go so far, and for me who had read many novels, books and webnovels, my tolerance is quite high. The direction they took made me quit the game even though I've played it since day one. Death of consistency is a slow and gradual thing, or that's what I thought. Genshin proved me wrong, it seems. I never thought there would be a day where i would hate this game so much.
Agree, tech in fantasy CAN work, hell Fontaine did it rlly well imo with the meks but you need to properly add them in there not just shit a bike in the least tech advanced region in the story 😂😂
yet we have scaramouche/wander's mecha and fontaines robots. & people say motocycles are out of touch for genshin? is it really now? I honestly dont think it matters.LMAO
@@SHAdow98V genshin fandom says, "Xilolen got blueprints" to this problem. Yeah, cause "how do you have icecream in the middle of desert with no electricity or other means of power-supply?" will be answered, "we have fridge."
@@veipurr then you don't understand lore or i'd say you're just there in game for waifus/characters. The Scaramouche mecha works cause that's gatekept lost tech+a time traveller guy made it. ( again, who's part of the org which is gatekeeping lost tech of Khaenriah). AND Natlan isn't promoted as advanced nation...Sumeru was promoted to have connection with tech, Fontaine, well most innovative nation, Snezhnaya, again the tech gatekeeper nation, and Raiden shogun and scara are made by an archon using magic.(they're not simply robots). Maybe slow down and use your reading comprehension. You don't care but people do and you should shut up cause this isn't about you. You're free to like shit but doesn't mean shit is good.
@@Nolziv01 honestly it was pretty tiring to make our point across like that to some people, and genshin devs wouldn't listen to players outside of CN anyways, so, I just left.
Natlan is the first zone that genuinely feels like the entire area was created solely to sell characters. It’s crazy how the main appeal of pulling characters has shifted from having well-designed, innovative, and fun characters that you want to pull because you like them - to characters that add QoL improvements to your gameplay experience (FOMO). It’s just sad
You don’t need the characters, there is access to the -saurs who give you the same benefits that the characters do. It just seems like most people are upset because they don’t want to have to go get an -saur to do whatever the gimmick is for that chest or area
@@Achance2c 1.the dinosaurs feel like bad & toned down versions of the characters - motivating the players "you could just spend money for the faster ones" 2. & most importantly - you dont have these dinosaurs consistenty - u need to find them , sometimes even looking for them for minutes, making it a rather frustrating experience once again. you know why traveler cant just have a "whistle" to summon the dinosaurs they need for each situation? or a grappling hook gadget? simple. cause hoyo wants to make more money.
@ at most it takes a few seconds to find one, minutes is an extreme over exaggeration lol. You all complaining about this is so funny, they gave us a free option.
@@Achance2c free option with a lot of hustle, u need to constantly search for that monster and u need to get out to be able to get a good fight, you can only use them in natlan, while their qol character can be used anywhere and anytime hoyo know how to keep their revenue high 😂
Yea in addition to the boring gameplay and gatekeeping to each region you have recycled designs. I can see them releasing a keqing of every element and they would still sell.
@@lulufortytwo3884idk the house design, clothing design, and hmm...FRICKIN' dinosaurs? You can tell an advanced civilization by the house design, clothing and their utilities. And I can tell none of that is somewhat relevant to Natlan >Clothing looks like it was made by an outrageous hollywood designer >Houses looks like it was made by The Flintstones >Utilities(Weapons&Stuff) are out of place
@@lulufortytwo3884 The continues wars, and despite the wars the dragons tech hasn’t been destroyed? Why the abyss isn’t attacking their weaknesses? Without the dragons technology they are nothing.
For people who said oh u dont need these new characters to explore natlan. Here is an example from real life. Imagine u travel by walking and bike. And then ur destination became further and further. Guess what? u will need to get a car or a motor or airplane, because its easier and time saving and less painful to travel. Sure u can still walk or bike but think about the time needed. Its the same shit for natlan characters right now.
@@thomaskennedy5728 getting the characters with the specific ability of the saurains makes it so much easier to do those ss challenges and other things
@@onlineresident2174 you just try defend your lazy habit for something huh, saurian is good enough but you want want more and more, ww is most boring world explore and you tell genshin learn from that, world explore for new player is must
I couldn't agree more about this issue in genshin, the character's design isn't fit with the environment of natlan, I can tolerate mualani kinich and xilonen because they still have animal/dinosaur element in their design like xilonen has cheetah animation while climbing, but dude chasca and mavuika I can't bruh, guess what's makes mavuika more absurd?? She spin the motorbike while charge atk which is her main dmg source. From now I think I'll just pull for previous character constellation or weapon while waiting for snezhnaya
3:22 I swear to God if they give Capitano a tank instead of proper gameplay I'm gonna crash out. Mavuika was one of the only 2 interesting Natlan characters (Citlali is cool) and they ruined both with stupid decisions
I think that they just accidentally added all good things in furina so now they simply ran out of ideas 💀 They could choose something like flaming horse instead, like the fire horse skin in AC Odyssey, made off element just like Oz, but pyro. Mixed of red and black, like lava. And when it's on air mode, it spreads wings like a pegasus. A flaming pyro lava colored pegasus. Can you imagine? That would be badass imo. But no. We got ducati 😑
varka stole the horses, what a douche also tower of fantasy have horse mount (not recommended to try it/play it, it has a fair share of problems but at least some aspect that would make genshin better despite flaws and all)
@@anaisduh I think Natlan problem stems from their Honkai reference. I feel like the dev got forced to insert a bike inside the story so it fits the Himeko's reference. And since Mavuika the Archon got bike, they then decided to F it and go ham with exploration using "other worldly technologies" but forgot this is supposed to be land of war and a tribal nation. I always hate when they do honkai reference in Genshin & HSR, cuz they'll do anything just to fit their reference in the story. Sometimes it turned out to be good like Luocha and Venti but it often ended up bad like Raiden Ei, and now Mavuika.
@jerryeljeremy7790 Raiden Ei is the WORSE expy of the OG Raiden Mei of HI3. If the devs can't realistically make a good and logical reference to Honkai in that world, they shouldn't have tried at all. It breaks the fact that this is supposed to be stand-alone. Almost NOTHING about HI3 Raiden Mei is even remotely referenced in Raiden Ei while trying to tie it down (and failing miserably at that) to the latter's own identity or whatever in Genshin's world. Basically, Raiden Ei is a pathetic cheap knockoff of the actual superior OG Raiden Mei of HI3, where the devs have completely forgotten about the former's actual sense of identity in Genshin's world and not even bothering to fix her horrendous writing.
@@jerryeljeremy7790 I remember I was in that genshin subreddit( yeah i sinned) and I wrote how come Natlan's character are more advanced than Fontaine's? And one guy replied "well, Xillolen got the blueprints". And i was like what the friiick? It's like saying "we have a fridge" to the question "How come you have icecreams in this hot desert town with no means to electricity." Ahem, the point is Genshin is doomed and that part of fandom gonna defend it in every possible way. I said it in other places but Let me tell you Snezhnaya will be like GTA cause you know Ananta and NTE will be releasing in that year ( maybe).
Where skip button? Btw. Once you get an actual PC and play Wuwa, you will realize how far Genshin would have to go to be even close. And it's only beggining for Wuwa.
okay, i don't think that's a fair comparison? Genshin was released years before WuWa and WuWa is developed on different software than Genshin. Even until now, tons of players can't even play WuWa properly on PC without them crashing or lagging while Genshin runs fine
@@thatsaber01 of course each person will have a different experience with their phones, I play on a s21and pc, not the most advanced phone but it runs smoother now than ever. That being said, GI didn't learn from : HSR, ZZZ, wuwa, didn't make any significant changes for the first 3 years of its existence...so its not really a Hot take
Ngl when the first Natlan trailer dropped, my friends and I thought the region was like a Theme Park. Even the mention of an on-going tournament made us hopeful it's the Traveler's Shonen Tournament Arc. And oh yeah, side quest animations got progressively worse as white text over background describing the event has gotten prevalent--these animations peaked in 1.0 sadly
You just don't understand the white text over. It is sage of stolen flame's word directly appearing in the mind of traveler hence it is appearing in top of screen for us. It is only when sage of stolen flame is involved in the quest and he has been involved in all the major quest of natlan.
@@thomaskennedy5728 that's nice, i was talking about first impressions doe (the first teaser trailer, that is) and yeah, the blackout and white text is a massive case of tell don't show plagueing the game... which is sad
@@thomaskennedy5728bro is saying his first impression can only be described as "tell don't show" everything from Natlan is just a storytelling word yapfest
I've replied this on someone's comment, but here i type it again. Mavuika’s behavior with the bike feels out of place given her background. She comes from Natlan, a more primitive civilization, and even though she was exposed to advanced technology, it’s unrealistic for her to act as if she’s completely accustomed to riding a bike so quickly. In real life, when someone encounters new technology, there’s always a learning curve. For example, if someone today discovered a hoverboard from an advanced, unknown civilization, they wouldn’t immediately ride it smoothly or perform stunts. They would struggle, learn, and adapt over time. Mavuika, however, behaves as if bikes have been a part of her life and culture for years-riding with confidence and a "cool" attitude, like someone from our world where bikes have existed for over a century. This breaks immersion because her behavior doesn’t reflect the cultural and technological gap between her origins and the advanced bike she’s using. A more realistic approach would have been to show her learning to use the bike and developing her own style, bridging her primitive background with the modern technology she encounters.
I feel like people wouldnt be so pissed about these drastic changes in 5* character design both in kit and exploration, if they even bothered adding in proper f2p options like gadets that provide a better exploration experience, or a 4* character like Lumi from WuWa that players can just buy in the shop after saving, i just feel so bad because the player experience is getting worse and worse if you're not spending on the new shiny characters for better exploration, its bs cause players already have to give their time, money, everything and still get spit in the face and thank them for it....😐😑
There are spots to get every saurian you need by any puzzle in the environment. And you can yoink any saurian along the way at any point. You get Kachina 5 mins after walking into the nation. They supply the players plenty.
@@amandaslough125 Kachina movement is shit in comparison to Mualani or even just Xilonen, now compare her to Chasca and Mavuika? Saurians arent everywhere, you sometimes have to walk for minutes just to find ONE and they are severely handicapped as well, they're dogshit in comparison to the 5* characters and thats the point.
hoyoshills be like: "but but flying robots, wanderer gundam mode and some historical tech!" 😂😂 no, the point is, the whole natlan itself is really out of place making it what pokemon and monster hunter put in genshin universe? 😅 i could understand how characters look like but their tech for me is really out of place and also mavuika, what the heck are they thinking making her fight enemies with a fkn bike, that is so cringe! if only they could've separate her combat and motorcycle exploration, that would've been better 😂
THANKYOU FOR SAYING THAT!! I FRICKIN' HATE Mavuika's Bike SOMUCH and her outfit is the most out of place in the entirety of Genshin/Teyvat, even her casual official artwork in social media is much better than that skin tight goon-hooking outfit
This. They could have made the bike an exploration only thing, even if it didnt have the flying thing just make it have a shit ton of fuel and players would be happy to zoom around. But no, she uses it in combat and outside of natlan it runs for like, 5 seconds? 8 if you have C1 and almost unlimited at C6 lmfao
I also noticed that Natlan is really empty. Its like... you have to walk so much for a single chest. Up the mountain, down the mountain, up the cave, down the cave, underground, overground- its like the sumeru dessert in design AND THAT WAS A DESSERT!? THE UNDERGROUND AREA WAS FINE!!! but nooo they rather make you walk five minutes for a 2 primogem chest! It took me around 10 hours to 100% the mainland of Natlan and do all the quest and it only gave around 8k primos? thats at least a daily wage worth of primos dude!!! Why do I have to spend the amount of time I would spend at my day job walking around? AT LEAST GIVE ME ENGAGING PUZZLES INSTEAD OF ANOTHER HP SPONGE ENEMY!!!! I did the Isalnd dragon quest a little while ago and dude- why wasnt that the archon quest??!?!?1 It has lore, it has cool visuals, it wouldve worked so well! It even has a callback to mond with that dragon fight!!!! so why...?!?!?!
now that Mavuika has a motorcycle (which i find it quite dissapointing), they better make Capitano go berserk on his playstyle if he ever becomes playable
@@kekfield nahhh he can summon a big sword in the animation and natlan characters is all about exploration skills so capitano is riding a big sword like chasca.
Genshin devs knew that we are worried about running out of stamina, so they added not 1, not 2, but 3 other stamina bars when you go to Natlan. Not only that, but they made those stamina bars exclusive to Natlan characters, so yeh, you need money. But hey, they gave Kachina for free! We should be grateful that we're given a mid 4-star!! Genshin devs knew they'll make money anyway, they know smooth-brained Genshin players that are still whaling on it will eat the crap that they give to the people. Star Rail, ZZZ, and Wuwa are going to be my long-term games imo.
Hoyo bullshit works since the playerbase is also bullshit. They LOVE being treated like shit. HSR is even worse when it comes to paywall and aggresive banner placements. But nobody complains there either.
The Firefly and Ruan Mei banners left my account with a permanent scar. I don't have Ruan Mei cause I pulled for Fitefly , and now I am watching everybody using Ruan Mei on every fucking team... it's so stupid I can't.
The more I think about it the stranger it becomes, the world building is so weird. 1. There's no phone in Teyvat so far, not even a handytalkie, they still use paper mail for communication. But in Sumeru, they can even make robots. Does people see robots as more essential thing than a phone? 2. There's no land transportation. So far there're only boats that we can ride in some nations, but human live on a land, not in the water, why there's no land transportation at all?. And suddenly Natlan has a whole motorcycle bruh. 3. I thought genshin's background was based on 90's, just at how traditional Mondstadt to Inazuma looks, by the lacks of electricity and technology. Sumeru was known with their prestigious school, so I can excuse that on having more advanced technology. But Natlan? Seriously? and so much more, how tf the world building in this game work?
Apparently for nantlan, all the fancy gadgets (mavuika's sunglasses, chasca gun, kachina's drill) were all made by the genius named Xilonen Which i find so ridiculous cuz if they have such genius why tf did we travel on a fucking slow hot air balloon. It makes all the npcs dumb bc apparently this chosen one could utilise phlogiston in ways that none of the other npcs could. Yea, what an ass writing Even albedo has a whole explanation abt his khemia, where he learnt that and how he could create things and manipulate life as well. Yet xilonen just happens to be so crafty and genius? What happens to world building
@@bubblesparks but in reputation quest xilonen said that she is suprised chasca can control it when it is so much unstable. So what you find ridiculous is and what you wanted them to do would make them die sooner than from abyss. She is no genius,although did make small tech like drill but unstable mess when it comes to flying things. other violent NPCs have portable ice cannons which is not made by her meaning people like her existed way before her. It is even more understandable since it is all dragon technology.
@@thomaskennedy5728 i've only read chasca voicelines but there wasn't any lines indicating xilo's craft to be unstable. It was just her being extra cautious and giving out maintenance guide so there won't be issues when chasca uses them. Also, it's more of the fact that she could create these tools when not a single other person can. She is a resourceful talent that holds a very precious skill. For a nation constantly at war with abyss, an occurence labeled as 'natural disaster', it just sounds dumb to me when u have this number one craftsman yet doesnt commision her for advanced weapons etc that could provide them better defenses. Especially when mavuika knows abt the 500 years max plan. If the phlogiston and dragon tech are the powerful source of magic, equivalent to khemia, then surely there are things to be prioritized when crafting the tools or machines for natlan's people survivability. Idk about u but to me, when the archon has motorcycle, the other has rollerblades and other a flying gun, then surely they could come up with some little tweakings for the commonfolk mobility. Esp when we moved so fucking slow with that air balloon in the last quest. Atp they should've just created cars for us to use in the AQ and go ham with the modern tech as it is apparently gi's current creative direction with natlan. (And no one will question it the same way ppl just accept mavuika's bike cuz, its fantasy and instead of gas they are powered with phlogiston. And looks cool 🤷♀️)
@@bubblesparksnope, wrong. actually in tribal chronicles xilonen herself said that it is harder to tame and suprised chasca can control it so i am not seeing your point in assigning her the duty to make arial Vehicles. She also confirmed that she cannot make large pholgiston powered vehicles. Same quest also showed why large pholgiston powered vehicles aren't possible without constantly sucking the pholgiston from many saurians at once. Not only it is hard for her to make but also ethically wrong as there is no pholgiston source other than some humans and saurians. The only one I have hard time is with motorcycle other aren't some kind of big brainer when all it needs is too attach wheels to shoes and other is literal dendro dragon trapped and only present itself in pixelated form. I also don't understand gun problem,it just has a design of gun but work like that cryo cannon local legend but with better capability. The ballon is moving very fast,you just don't understand it. The hot air balloon is moving with the pace of non-gameplay traveler or npc. For them it is fast. Although it doesn't take much time to move in actual gameplay,it takes them quite a lot of time to move from one tribe to another for npc. But even gameplay wise,it takes us half an hour from moving one tribe to other according to the teyvat's actual time. In archon quest, time doesn't follow the same speed and we are technically moving faster than gameplay wise. Like it it takes from morning to afternoon if travel 1000m which is roughly 1km per 3 hour speed but we travelled 500m is 4 minute with hot air balloon as the time didn't follow same pace in quest. 0.5km/0.15 hour is faster than 1km/3 hour.
@@thomaskennedy5728 ive alr said i havent done any of the new tribal quest from chasca place and my judgement was only formed after reading chasca's voice line, not the quest. Still, abt that hot air balloon as our ride was just pissing me off bc they kept saying if only they came a little bit faster, lot more lives could be saved. It becomes so annoying to me bc we all knew how they could afford to make xilonen have rollerblades, a modern time era, yet can not make a small modification just so this 'old fashioned' transportation could get a touch of modernization. Just so it can function accordingly and save ppl faster cuz they've been doing the abyss fight for fucking 500 years.. idk abt u but to me its still dumb that an archon who possess modern bike DOES NOT even think abt modifying these commonfolk transpoetation so they could at least be faster and thus more efficient in evacuating ppl. They hv stated sooo many times that abyss invasion is like 'natural disaster' and wont the proper logic is forming and developing mitigation?? Instead of an air balloon why cant they just insert cars by that point ffs. Or they could go Arcane route and make similar airships, whatever it is just somethinge other than an old fashioned transportation. Its just funny from writing perspective bc they seemed to be so regretful of the thousand casualties when the advanced tech were not even fairly distributed. And I agree w u abt mavuika's bike bc how come does she not use that from the very beginning.. its such an ass writing that doesnt rly land right for me when trying to portray this grirvances and calamity called war Side notes, I still place Inazuma world quests as the best in delivering impactful world building that focuses so much on the more realistic consequences of war. (AQ still very weak nonetheless)
the funny thing is, when I saw the pyro Archon for the first time, I literally joked to my friend that she wasn't the pyro archon, but a biker girl... damn guess she really isn't a pyro archon but a biker girl
Came expecting a proper well thought out analysis on why natlan was so poorly received, only to see that the guy only stole the entire content of another creator, not even providing a link, and barely generating proper content or breakdown of his own. -_-
Yeah, the design decisions in Natlan are so disjointed. It feels like the devs just threw some keywords in an AI generator and used that as the basis for the region.
The only thing that really made me "wow" was Ochtanatlan. It was such a good area to explore, and the lore? 10/10. We could see the old dragon tech there that all Mavuika's fans are talking about but her bike doesn't represent that old dragon tech like we saw in Ochtanatlan (and I mean the visuals and design of this "dragon tech"). So their argument about how her bike is dragon tech yada yada is just a cheap excuse. There is a lore hole basically and we all know why they made her the way she is...
Been playing and spending in genshin since day 1 and by the arrival of Natlan, everything seems so bizarre and out of place for the characters. Though I liked that we can actually possess saurians for a "unique" (well nog so unique but kinda new for genshin) overworld traversal, the things wr can do basically is almost the same. Not only that, but the characters and region so far are so counter cultural to each other. Natlan was advertised as a nation of war, so players like me were expecting Natlan to be chaotic and less harmonized than Sumeru. But lo and behold, the tribes are even more peaceful at first glance than basically sumeru or inazuma. I even felt like Inazuma (though how lame Raiden's reason for being a tyrant) had more friction in it's faction than Natlan (kamisato clan and kujou and Watatsumi factions). To think Natlan is a nation of war... The characters also are so counter cultural. Natlan, as one can see from the get go, is a nation of rather primitive origins and primitive practices, yet we see limited characters in motorbikes, DJ tables, roller blades, flying cannon and the like. To think Fontaine was the most advanced nation, yet they don't even have these gadgets in place. How the heck do these Natlan characters have these? Its actually nuts and shows bad planning and design. They should design these in a way that they should still coincide with the region's lore and cultural background. Last gripe I had before I decided to quit after pulling Chasca was that we are in the 6th nation already and we still haven't had much clue and progress to the sibling search of the traveler. It was already 4 years, and looking back, there should've been significant progress. But no, Hoyoverse basically stretched out the story to milk it out and let players lose excitement and interest on what is happening with your sibling and Celestia. The Archon quests are also becoming too predictable, like the last big lore drop was Neuvilette's forgiveness of Fontaine's sins and several patches have gone by and nothing new has come up until we get to Natlan. The excitement has died down. And my friends and I aren't willing to spend more, let alone log in, unless there are significant and big changes in story telling, character design and world design happens.
lol same i quit without even seeing Natlan Story Quest cuz i noticed when going into the region...wheres the war in a "Nation of War" lol and locking QOLs and region-locking into new characters is scummy both in Fontaine and Natlan.
Raiden's "reason" (more like pathetic excuse) for being a tyrant is so pathetic, lame, and lacks any sense of originality or actual sense of care to it. No build-up or actual good reasons for it (not even different view points to give us more info). You can tell that both her and the Inazuma Archon Quest were horribly-written and rushed to hell. So yeah, both Raiden and the Inazuma Archon Quest are pure GARBAGE.
@@LimC.A if you quit before doing the story, of course you're not going to see the war. It's like people forgot Fontaine had a huge flood when Hoyo only advertised the peaceful water exploration.
tbf this kinda artifacts that are useless on everything but one gimmic exists for longer now heck there are straightup artifacts that nobody uses (lava walker to name one) oh and the fontain set as he said after dfurina released means the usability of this set is bound to having furina
Natlan "Ruined Genshin Impact" is polarizing as it depends on whose perspective we're gonna look at it. If we look at it from a normal point of view, yes it has, the immersion is broken, Natlan feels way too disconnected compared to all the other regions, exploration QoL locked behind a paywall which loses value outside of Natlan, Mavuika the pyro archon herself feels more like a ZZZ character than a Genshin character and more. But if we look at it from a die hard Genshin fan's perspective, ain't nothing gonna ruin Genshin
@@ZaniWuwathat's better because "P2W 🤑🤑💰💰 applications can be invested to Anime Adaptation, or or or- they can add more contents!!" I love how delulu they can be
I'm going to say sometimes these companies are allergic to money 4 years later in the players are still asking for skins I feel like hoyoverse and these other companies are just allergic to money if you really want a lot of money just give the players what they want and you will get more money is it really that hard to get the players what they want or is that just too much to ask for
tbh, I started to feel disappointed with Genshin when Itto's body type turned out to be the same as the adult male model. additionally, the drawn abs are lazy work. I became even more disappointed when Alhaitham had the same skills as Keqing and now there are 2 more chars with similar skills as them. looking back, it seems Genshin really got lucky from the COVID pandemic and was fortunate to be the first of its genre, now Natlan is a slop show. overall, I think the game is mid and overrated. however, I still love the world design and music.
Speaking of Itto, not only "Feeble Scholar" Alheehee is more buff than him, Mutota is also way more buff than Alheehee. Need I mention the Eremites too?
@ what frustrates me the most is the difference between the official artwork of characters like Itto and how they look in the game. In the art, he appears buff, while in the game, he’s like a twig. 💀 If other characters, particularly the NPCs, can be designed accurately, why can't Itto receive the same treatment? the Eremites are a great example they have a buff design that looks impressive and their drip is cool
the path at 4:53 takes the bird's stamina XD, imagine falling just before reaching the destination heheheh, the upper side of Ochkanatlan was a bit tricky at first but got around it well
The difference between the technology in other regions and natlan is it actually felt like it fit into a fantasy world up instead of being ripped from our modern world. I think the motorcycle could’ve worked if it was designed with a fantasy gimmick.
I hate how instead of fixing the game and make it better for everyone everywhere They just sell you the solution and it only work well in one nail like smh 😞 Meanwhile Wuwa: Jetpack go *whooosh*
If they keep up this whole idea of making characters just for quality of life improvements, snezhnaya will have characters to make opening doors and ascending stairs faster
15:44 Because Hoyo wouldn't have anything to copy from Tower of Fantasy if she rides a Dragon instead of a motor cycle. They have been already exposed of copying many games on bilibili 😂
im a genshin fan... and i cannot support natlan. the only character i look forward to is capitano and they're dropping the ball with him, everything else feels like it breaks the world building we've had the past 4 years. if the fake russians don't save genshin, it's pretty much dead to me. if only wuwa had more males, i'd go back to it.
I expect dragons and dinosaurs to be included in a units kit... I get guns, roller blades, grappling hook, surfboard and motorbike. I didn't pull a limited Natlan unit coz of that reason. ( I only have ororon and kachina )
So far I think practically all the Natlan characters (aside from the “making you pay for issues they created” part) have been pretty good, up until Chasca and her giant ass gun. Mualani looks relatively decent, her bikini thing gets across that she’s from a water based area and her shark is a little on the nose but I’m willing to give it a pass. Kinich has relatively the same, he has more modern elements yes but he still looks like a Genshin character, Ajaw is a little strange but (i believe) he’s essentially a hologram of sorts, and the pixilated effects make him unique. Kachina really doesn’t have that much going on in general, but her design is cute and doesn’t feel too out of place, all of the 5.0 characters were pretty good in terms of design aside from a few strange elements. Unfortunately things start going downhill in 5.1. Xilonan has quite a few issues in terms of design, her dj booth, and her jacket specifically, also her shirt to an extent, her dj booth is just strange to say the least, theres many other characters that summon things like that but something about Xilonan’s specifically just feels off. Chasca meanwhile, doesn’t really have many good design features, her pants are odd to say the least with the leather and the half and half thing, her strange leather bodice and her overly complex scarf. Not to mention the giant gun she rides, if it was just a normal gun, like Clorinde for example, that she happened to use while flying, it would be much better. Ororon is much better than Chasca in terms of design, though I do still have a few issues with him, his jacket and gloves feel much too “emo boy” and just make him a little off compared to the rest of Genshin’s cast. Citlali is actually really good, though she’s supposed to be an old lady and yet she looks like she’s barely 16, the only thing im confused on is her strange floating hair pieces, but im willing to write it off as just another strange magical thing since the rest of her design is decently consistent. Mavuika, as you mentioned before, looks like a ZZZ character, not a genshin character, her lether bodysuit is odd and out of place, her motorbike is literally just a giant moterbike, it feels too out of place.
At a part of the game we learn that natlan used to be ruled by an advanced dragon race that had its own tech, if we were told about that in the beginning and told that people of natlan savagned the old ruin tech and used it In the fight against the abyss maybe it would have made some sense for why characters have these abilities
When Fontaine came out it was when i knew they were going downhill cuz region-locked character things just made things kinda annoying but when natlan first hit and the first unit that dropped was pretty much 10x better than the normal saurians i knew this game is going to be toast cuz locking QOL is rlly bad...who would have thought.
NGL, they did natlan dirty. Like I know, they can do better, but the design is meh. Like hello! Aztec, Inca, and Maya (etc) mythology is so interesting, but they didn't display the potential.
Natlan sure seems like the most out of place map in Genshin compared to other nations. Even the Archon quest is very underwhelming and not as fleshed out like Sumeru and Fontaine. It feels rushed and forced. The character designs and character writing is also very bad OchkaNatlan is the only map that feels like Genshin and has deep mystery and lore behind it. I actually liked it a lot chasing the dragon and going above the skies
it's so disappointing that they stopped working on their game, caring, and listening to players after they buffed/reworked zhongli. WoW as an example reworks every class/subclass for every expansion they do and continually work on characters to keep them balanced during each expansion. Just wish the devs didn't have such skill issues with developing and coding their own game.
I love how neuvilette introduced natkan tonus as the „land of dragons“ and we havent seen one real dragon yet( i get how the sauriens are supposed to be the dragons but you cant tell me that neuvilette was reffering to them when he calls himself a dragon aswell, would be kinde degrading to put yourself on the same level as pets now wouldnt it). I mean chascas gun could have simply been a weird anemo asian dragon that spits the anemo bullets. Mavuika could have had an westens dragon that can fly and swim/run fast. Ajaw could have been like mini durin and simply have a kind of „pokeball“ or smth. Natlan is not bad because of the characters, its bad because of how lazy the hoyoverse is. It is not hard to make every single feature from natlan make Sense somehow, but they simply took the first thing that came to mind. And Don‘t get me started on the landscap. The nation of fire and there isn’t even a vulcano yet? We only have like on or to lava areas ? And the god of war and fire neither cares about war nor about fire 💀 if we continue that path snehznaya is hoing to be another desert and the tsaritsa is going to summon moons that you can teleport onto or smth lmao. Fr i hope the listen and start going into the direction they had with fontaine.
I absolutely hate how mavuika attacks with her motorcycle. Its so wierd that a fucking huge motorbike is jumping up and down and spinning on my screen. Like she is THE pyro archon. She single handedly carried the whole archon quest with her own hands, not a motorbike. Why is she nothing more than xiangling without the motorbike?
The main reason i stopped pulling for her, was waiting for years when i heard the pyro archon will be the himeko of genshin, then somehow a fricking non futuristic region has a supermodel in a latex suit riding a motorcycle as their archon, like who tf created her design bro
For me it's like everything was gatekept to 5 stars Natlan and we only have 2 four stars to use the 2 new relics, characters are designed with the exploration skill first. The insane lack of 4 stars in general, and the lack of explanation of the weapons. They just needed to make it that the heroes of the tribe can use these weapons of the first Dragons of Natlan and boom it's not so out of place since each is one of a kind and needs a hero name to use it.
In my opinion, yes. Natlan has ruined Genshin Impact. Not just the character designs being all over the place, and pay-walling how to travel, my biggest problem is how Natlan is the first region to throw previous Genshin lore out the window, while simultaneously bringing old lore back into the story in unsatisfying ways. Nahida is the youngest archon. Lol, JK, it's Mavuika, despite the entire game saying otherwise until now! (Because of course Natlan gets to break the lore of how Archons work, so now anyone can become archon). Inazuma clearly suffered the most following the Catalysm, as seen in the dangerous and wild landscape unlike any other region. LOL no, actually Natlan suffers the worst from the Abyss! Can you see it in the overworld design? Nope! Trust me bro! Fontaine is the most technologically advanced nation, all technology we have seen comes from Fontaine. JK again, Natlan is way more advanced! Genshin has established certain rules of the world with the leylines. But Natlan breaks this rule and has its own leyline system completely unique! All other Genshin characters relies on energy to use burst? Not our super special mary sue Mavuika, no! She needs to be totally unique and different, so she gets her own burst system! It's like they wanted so desperately to make Natlan unique, and it just ruined the experience. They have retconned their lore, and ruined the biggest moments in the story. The reveal that Seelies are angels? Just randomly dropped on us with no importance or impact. The biggest mystery we've had, the fake sky? We see it, and no one in the story cares. It's just so annoying.
The fact that in WuWa you can actually travel with any character with echoes feature as main transportation & gadget, instead of forcing you to pull for one specific character that have limited time for you to get it.
I wouldn't mind if the motorcycle or these other technology Natlan characters use is related to dragons. It would fit the theme of the other nations as well, with Sumeru's Akasha - powered by the Dendro Archon's Gnosis, Fontaine's Oratice Mechaniqué D'analyse Cardinal - powered by the Hydro Archon herself. Zhongli leaves the technological advances to his people, like Ningguang with her Jade Palace, but he was the sole source of creating the entire world's Mora when he had his Gnosis. And even gave blessings to his people during Lantern Rite before his 'death', ensuring that their businesses are prosperous. Venti is an absentee Archon, but he guides and protects his people when he is needed. So, what does the Pyro Archon do? Each Nation has their own powerful dragon (except Inazuma), so does she have one too? It would be nice if she did and even went to war against it or beside it. Like some Dark Souls boss or something. P.S: I quit playing Genshin after the Fontaine quest since I wanted to take a break. But with all the events I missed, and as a person who was previously dedicated to the events so that I was all caught up, the FOMO overwhelmed me and I stopped playing it entirely. If I can't play the events and see my favourite characters interact, even if it is filler, why play it at all if lore will be gatekeeped from me? So far, I think the first girl with the bunny ears and Orion(?) are the ones that looks at least the most loyal to Natlan. Simple designs that aren't over the top, but individual enough that it blends into the environment. If anything, I thought the Sumeru playable Characters from the desert, as well as the enemies, were a sneak-peak to what Natlan's characters would look like. So it was like whiplash when I saw what they actually looked like.
she fucking run the whole nation. Like literraly run it, budget, assignemt , supplies route, reconstruction ecc ecc, while at war with an enemy that like to teleport in at random to the point that her answer to "how do you relax?" is "i do more work"
And then the Tsaritsa summoned her own army: the brave people riding spaceships, who got rid of the Mecha army using laser beams and soon surrounded the bigger aircraft, reaching victory!
Imagine a country where people live in tent, dirt road, go to war on baloon, poorly maintain timber bridge leading to their main cities, then their fighters use gun and bike as their main weapons, lol
Just did their new flying battle, since Monstadt, in Natlan. And all I can think is... "For a four year long gap to improve this sequence... It BARELY change." I didn't even know about the dash option because they switched it with the attack. That maybe on me of not notiing the button changing design... and the textvthat pops half way through the freaking chase. but how the hell do you expect people to be READING during a CHASING section? Also I thought they just lazily left it there, because they lazily kept the stamina bars that were clearly not being used.
The biggest question I always had with Genshin is, where is the horses you’re telling me we’re getting the character who ride on the motorcycle before we have even horses? Keaya is still walking to this day💀
This is the first legit criticism I see about Genshin in this entire comment section that makes sense. Where the horses at?
@@Kyosukedono dude, imagine mauvika on a burning horse... sad for the future we cant have
@@BunniBoyJuicy Not gonna lie... that'd be kinda sick to be honest.
@@Kyosukedono instead we got a anime waifu ghost rider (minus the skull)
@@Kyosukedono where is the rest of the cavalry and Varkas or whatever his name is
I also absolutely hate how they've erased previous Natlan lore.
The whole bunch of natlanians was brought to old Mondstadt as slaves, Vanessa was one of them and fought at Colosseum. She then overthrew the aristocracy and founded Ordo Favonius. Absolutely badass lady! She also ascended to Celestia.
And now they tell us that Natlan people can't leave their country due to Wayob bullshit. Vanessa is now not from Natlan or what? Or official manga is not canon? Apparently yes, because they've even removed prologue about Vanessa from CN official page right before Natlan release. English is still there tho.
It looks like Natlan lore was changed in rushed manner to make it more "fun colorful and friendly" for a new audience. F that!
And also Capitano dying instead of Mavuika is total bs! I dont even want to play this garbage game anymore.
not to mention the travail trailer's natlan section doesn't even make sense anymore cuz what secret and where's the soundtrack?
I a little dissagree with point about Capitano, cause he is not "died" for Mavuika, its just cause himself cause of immortality for trolling Ronova + his heart have souls of his nation.
But Natlan still looks like missing a lot of details, like that:
- why noone notice experiments on saurians made by fatui?
- how logistic in natlan wokrs? Cause we have a part of Nathan for tourism lol
- they are literally slaves of their fates cause the ancient heroes. Example: all Malipo died in tragic way, so Kinich died the same way
Mavuika clearly stated that Natlanese can leave natlan but at the cost of huge memory loss due to their unique connection with the night kingdom and fractured leylines. Have you even played the game before complaining? It is litteraly in the main quest.
Also, Vanessa left natlan thousands of years ago, what did you expect, to see the miracolus retourn of her now dispersed tribe in natlan just because we went there?
But of course the developers had time to change an entire 1 or 2 years of work in the blink of an eye just because they wanted to make natlan more colorfull, especially after all the positive review about fontaine being dark and misterious.
What did do you expect, to find a nation that has been on the bring of destruction for millenials? That would make no sense, there's no way the region would still exist nowaday if everyday was as the 5.2 quest, and of course people cooperate to survive if their lives are at stakes against something far more powerfull that they are
Bruh... They retcon it?
The reason why the technology worked so well in the other regions was because it had a mechanical and lore reason for being a part of it. Liyue is more mystical focusing on adepti abilities to power their functions, Sumeru was also highly mystical in nature, tying in the lore of the world tree and leylines storing memories for people to draw information from. This technology was also powered by the gnosis. As a nation centered around leylines and research it was not weird at all and it is easily incorporated into the region.
And if people want to talk about the boss fight with a mecha, they literally hinted at that since Childe's character quest when they let us know that they were researching the ruinguard factories. They utilized past technology to create the false god.
Fontaine too, is utilizing ancient technology that they have entire research centers dedicated to studying so it's not strange at all.
Meanwhile Natlan attempts to touch on the technology of theirs being left behind by the dragons but the common people do not utilize it. More commonly than not most people barely know how to use it, the closest they can get is utilizing phlogiston but it is not incorporated into the every day lives of the people in a way that makes them seem knowledgeable of the ancient tech.
They could have remedied this by having more technology present in the villages to make it a little less jarring that ONLY the limited characters seem to have access to these items but instead we have to deal with how primitive the rest of the nation is. There's no reason for them to not be using the tech if they have it which is why it's so weird. Now if they had it be like, okay instead of dinosaurs, you can find these ancient mechanisms left behind by the dragons you can do this etc. Like robots are well established in genshin since the beginning! We could have had robot vehicles exclusive to Natlan that would have been normal! It would also better utilize the whole dragon technology BS they keep trying to give us and excuse the reason why this tech is not spread out to other nations. We could have kept the dinosaurs are a cute side thing because so far Khaenri'ah has made many robots based on living creatures. The dragons doing the same isn't odd at this point. Anyways. Those are my thoughts.
Its simple really, Natlan is just lazy story telling, clearly they aren't even trying anymore
The Pyro Archons design makes absolutely zero sense not just in Natlan, but the entire game. Fontaine is the most advanced region by far, yet they don't have motor bikes. We haven't had anything like this in any part of the game. It was the most random design i've seen out of all characters. Chasca has a big gun, which we've seen before and at least can maybe link it to a potential technology she acquired in Fontaine..but Mavuika's just doesn't fit at all.
@@RagingRevine literally what I have been saying, I agree with you so so much, her deisgn is so weird ,unfitting and lazy to me
that's still not really a good reason. Even Fontaine's setting still fits with the whole of Genshin by making the sci-fi part of it still have magic and still restrictive but still part of the style that is Genshin. Not Natlan does not fit within Genshin and more so seems like Honkai Impact 3rd levels of designs.
@@RagingRevine Sexy Quetzalcoatl/Huitzilopochtli (literal god of war and sun...) inspired archon, fitting to region ❌ lame great value black widow on bike ✅
The Ice Archon will be riding a T34 tank.
lmao
+ Flying
She'll be snowboarding. And of course she will fly on the snowboard
Im the true Cryo Archon
Nah bronya will get her gundam suit
Imagine living in a tribal community and then suddenly your friend pulled out a pixelated saurian, a giant flying gun, and a plastic toy shark. They could have used a unique saurian as part of their skill like an aquatic saurian for Mualani, an anemo drake for Chasca and a shadowy dendro saurian for Kinich
man that woulda been so cool...
The so-called "Nation of Dragons" when a biker chick pulls up with a motorcycle from the 21st century
Was excited when the pyro archon will be the himeko of genshin only to realise a fricking archon is wearing a latex and ride a motorcycle, easy skip, thought she will have more divine design
The "tribal" part is about how government functions there and has nothing to do with the technology advancement.
I’d written a whole essay on this! Just make Natlan characters summon and ride Saurians from their clan. Then make Mauvuika summon every dragon.
Just let us have mounts! It works so well with the world building and would feel less out of place. Saurians are cute and all the npcs already have saurian pets! I’d rather play as an npc riding a bat or bird saurian vs Mauvuika on a motorcycle. They can even reuse saurian models and recolor them to look rarer and cooler for 5*s.
Natlan feels like such a missed opportunity.
The unknown god will have a nasa rocket to travel from celestia to abyss
Probably one of starwars tie fighter 😂
She's gonna have the Enterprise straight away, no questions asked.
In Natlan's lore, people have strong relationships with Saurians. They could have just had the characters summon their dino friend instead of the weird shit they're doing.
Mavuika had hers (course it has died fro the time passed) but the preview trailer showed a fenix (perhaps the developers will show it is xbalanque), question is WHY SHE DOES NOT HAVE A SAURIAN COMPANION IN GAMEPLAY, even fischl has Oz ¿?, it hurts me more for being in latinamerica and i don't see any cultural character with they're respective animal.
They have close ties in that they are treated as family, not as pets or mounts.
The closest to the mount thing are the Flower-Feather clan members, and even they have to *earn* the right to ride them, not just because they are prideful.
They also all imitate the saurians as a way of respect instead of having them used for everything.
@@supermariogamer5294 Good point
@@supermariogamer5294 ah yes, No 'Animal' abuse ahh community
im fine about mualani but mavuika couldve had a dragon or something
Let's not forget Dawei cried and said Natlan will bring many surprises and changes.
I am baffled by how many people fall for Dawei's fake tears 😂
@@aldyzero6676
beta dawei: "booohooo sniff sniff pwease spend money and play our game"
alpha solon: "as long as the players have fun and we survive"
Maybe the character was bad but the exploration and the world quest was top tier
i mean he wasn't wrong but people got even more angry
@@Janedoemama people who? who not playing game and exist in there
the funniest thing about the natlan characters is that they fit into wuwa more then genshin
IMO, I think Natlan characters were changed at the last minute because of WuWa.
I remember seeing the concept art of the pyro archon (pre-WuWa) and she turned out completely different. She doesn't even dress like the rest of the people in her nation.
@@lunaticyoshi1 That's right, the Pirate girl hasn't been showed
@@lunaticyoshi1 Dehya's the real pyro archon.
@@lunaticyoshi1 nope,there was no correct leak of pyro archon design. The one who leaked the design was also banned from sub for spreading fake info.
@thomaskennedy5728
Maybe that's true. However, when I first saw her in-game model, I said, "She looks like a biker chic. Wouldn't it be funny if she road a motorcycle like the Inferno Rider from WuWa?"
Personally, I would have preferred her design be closer to the concept art.
"Dehya is one of the most beautiful women in the game." Brother, give me a hug. I like her the most in the game. But what Hoyo did is unforgivable. Hoyo never valued the players, and I'm tired of it. Dehya is one of the reasons I stopped playing Genshin. And after that, I was very happy to get to know Kuro after I stopped playing Genshin.
That's the Hoyoverse or formerly known as MiHoyo in nutshell, at the end of the day, their old habits with misadventure mistakes never gets off even the newest game they have, HSR and ZZZ won't stay much long to be generous until someone breaking their neck with greed
Same... She's the last character I got before quitting.
Ya excellent design n skills but disgustingly weak. Her ultimate skill is so dsmn good looking.
Mihoyo made one of the most beloved characters, Dehya, into a complete weakling in gameplay.
For me what they did to my Queen, my Wife, my Love is what give me a rule of not give them my money in any of they're games :C
Is Natlan really the country who's in a Eternal War??? I still can't see and feel it. Inazuma feels more likely the country in a War... Itself. XD
I hate both Inazuma and Natlan but you're wrong there. Inazuma skipped the entire war segment and rushed to conclusion. They showed the resistance against Shogun in cutscene like when Kazuha saves the traveller and gorou and army charge at Shogun that's all cutscenes and there was no build up to it. Kokomi was just projected as a opposing leader/strategist but the game never actually backed it with actions. She's not even 10% of Alhaitham or Cyno.
But Natlan actually had us play segments where we were fighting the Abyss. It shows the effect of Abyss on characters like the recent archon quest where we help out NPCs suffering from PTSD while fighting the Abyss
@@ArthurShotgun
Inazuma's Archon Quest was pure GARBAGE. All cutscenes, no action, and especially no meaningful build-up to them. Horrendous and rushed to hell writing. Pathetic "war".
@@ArthurShotgun i think op meant inazuma's region/environment and vibe in general. U could see how gloomy, depressing and abandoned some islands are. The world quest also depicts the post-war consequences rly well. I still remember chouji, a lil boy we bonded over and learned a recipe from, who was forced to sell crystal marrow bc he wants to flee from his empty village. Also, there was the whole cleansing sakura quest. Even some of the osts sounded very depressing and somber. It just tears my heart whenever I passed some of the iconic spots from the inazuma islands, especially tsurumi
All those npcs suffered some sort of grief, and the only part where inazuma fumbled hard was the Archon Quest.
I enjoyed my time exploring inazuma islands more than I enjoyed the AQ. The lands did feel like it barely survived from a war or disaster. So many corrosive colors etc.
While natlan, the supposed nation of war, has theme parks and zoo, along with pokemons and graffiti arts XD
“You’re not ok with a motorcycle but you’re ok with a ruin guard?”
Yes. Yes I am. Because ruin guards are from an ancient civilization that had access to said technology. Where is Mavuika’s garage?
Should have been a phoenix 🐦🔥 instead of a motorcycle. I mean her character design was such easy low hanging fruit. She literally brings people back from the dead through the sacred flame.
Xilonen's house is Mavuika's garage. Most all parts came from ancient Ochkanatlan civilization which was the most technolocally advanced civilization in all Teyvat and the reason why the secret source automatons, for example, are LEAGUES more advanced than the ruin guards.
I hope you quit genshin and find something else to play if motorcycles bother you that much.
its so funny they give mavuika bike before giving cavalry knigh a horse😂
@@eruvhan3632 freaking right?? lol
@@Kyosukedono that’s no different then saying: “I hope you quit replying to my comment if what I say bothers you, and find another comment that you enjoy”…
The truth is what I said DOES bother you. Just like Mavuika having a modern motorcycle DOES bother me… if I didn’t care and love the character from the story as much as I do then I wouldn’t bother commenting at all. But know this…. It’s only my own personal opinion. You do not have to share it. And I do respect that.
And no.. Xilonin’s house has yet to produce anything close to a crotch rocket that I’ve seen. And even if Hoyo comes out and says that it has it would be a poor excuse to try to connect the dots.
Did you ever play final fantasy 10? An advanced civilization with roads and skyscrapers and electricity gets absolutely reduced back to the stone age through catastrophe…. IF GENSHIN HAD PORTRAYED THE STORY TO REFLECT SOMETHING IN A SIMILAR WAY FOR NATLAN ID HAVE BEEN MORE RECEPTIVE OF THE CROTCH ROCKET. Example: an ancient ruin hovercraft that Xilonin retrofitted to be usable by Mavuika. That would have been more understandable. Still not as understandable as a phoenix mount or a dragon takeover form……. But “more understandable”.
@@Kyosukedono lmao. You mean that terrible retcon. We've known Khaenri'ah had giant robots since 1.0. We know literally nothing about Natlan since 4.8 besides it was a tribal nation of dragons. We get there expecting to see pyramids, people riding dragons, and an appropriately dressed warrior Archon, and we got freaking Pokémon
I honestly think the design of Natlan and the characters looks good ... but for another game. The evolution was just too sudden, adding flying guns and sharks and pixel art to what is currently a sword/bow/claymore/etc game. To me, it feels like they had an idea for a new game, but it fell through, and they just stuck it as a new patch to Genshin.
I've made WuWa my main game, but I still play Genshin, because I actually do enjoy the exploration part. So I'm a little sad about them giving all the new characters these new travel mechanics, while not letting us have similar things for our old characters. I wish they would make it a little more fair at least, and not give people FOMO and force them to pull for the new characters. Then again, that was my main reason for slowly detaching myself for Genshin in the first place. Sigh.
You can read in lyue how someone try to use his sword as vehicule twice, thats one of the main things chinese animes do in their series
ww more worst in character design lol, this stupid video created because china revenue report, 2024 is worst year for china economy and they can t spend money more to game. Then some stupid guy start talking and find reason to explain that. wtf? global revenue not thing happening here
at this point they should rework all Archon they released
Nahida Riding a leaf
Raiden Shogun riding lightning spear
Venty riding wind cloud
Zhongli riding meteor
Furina driving titanic
those ideas sound cool actually except the titanic one
Furina with the titanic BWHAHAH
@@ROMVS that a joke. though what about the iceberg?
@@NAi2004that will be ridden by cryo archon😂
or just archon outfits for archons giving venti actual wings
If you asked Hoyoverse why these characters can summon modern equipment, they would probably be like "because it looks cool".
Or they saw the gadgets in wuwa and how well it works and said "yeah we can do that but let's put them into 5 diff limited banner characters and make our players pay to get them"
@@raviolibirb8009 "Lets also handicap said gadgets because cant let our players have too much freedom hm? We gotta powercreep these exploration features in the future, watch our Snezhnaya character pull up a gundam with unlimited stamina"
Natlan "exploration" was what finally broke me after logging into Genshin everyday since launch. I just can't take it anymore, and I can't take people who are huffing copium, saying that Natlan improved exploration. This "improvement" is part "we have WuWa at home", part "let's take exploration mechanics we had in previous chapters and force players to either pay for them through specific 5* characters or make them go through 2 more steps to use those mechanics, except they are still super clunky and limited". Sure, I realized and somewhat accepted that Genshin won't improve long time ago, but in Natlan they managed to make the game worse.
And don't get me started on character designs in Natlan. I won't deny that, for example, Xilonen or Mavuika are hot, however, a californian catgirl DJ on rollerblades and redhead supermodel in biker leathers are not something that comes to my mind when thinking about native/pre-colonial Mesoamerican cultures. And that goes to pretty much every character in Natlan. Not that other regions are great either. Fontaine was probably the best, Liyue and Inazuma were mostly ok, but Mondstadt and Sumeru were mixed bags, to put it mildly.
I only have xilonen and will have citlali and mavuika
Same with me. Genshin was my primary game before but it feels odd that I'm enjoying Tower of Fantasy more. Maybe it's the auto exploration and mounts of ToF
Inazuma was DECENT at best for its aesthetics, but nothing more (I would say it's pathetic at worst). It's pure GARBAGE with its Story Quests and Archon Quest. Terribly-written and rushed to hell with worthless resolutions to them.
Remember those grapple points you could simply just use in Inazuma and Sumeru? Yeah you need a dino or new character now.
@@rickynguyen5108 Of couse, I only meant characters design, they at least (mostly) fit the apparent theme. As far as story goes, I'd say that Inazuma archon quest is an example of how not to design & write a story. Not only writing and pacing was terrible but Hoyo also decided to put some key information about what the hell is actually going on there in hidden notes and secret chain quests. Also, I suspect (half joking, half not) that Inazuma quest had a classic chinese anti-japanese bias as in order to this entire Inazuma debacle even happen, literally every single Inazuma character had to be rendered blind, deaf and retarded to not see Fatui stirring the shit from day 1.
EDIT: spelling smh
Celestia is probably a battleship straight out of HSR at this rate 😆
A literal Xianzhou ship 😭😭
I dont see why not. It's all connected, reason it's called Hoyoverse
Might end being exactly like that since they wanted to stop Khaenriah from developing too much, what if they just wanna have a tech monopoly lmao
inferno rider 2.0 when we can use 3 of them without paying anything hehehe
And when I said it the hoyosIaves said it's worth it because Mavuika is "waifu" and she can fly and go over walls with the bike 😂
? those bike is bronya Herrscher of Reason honkai impact 3rd.. they used it long before ur game released thats why u guys didnt know 😁
@@eldorado-r9t ah sure sure, it's hoyo's "original" design, but yall have to pay for urs
@@eldorado-r9t yes, Honkai 3rd invented motorcycles! every game that has motorcycles copied honkai!
@@f.b.l.9813 nope Dante bike Devil May Cry better than those inferno bicycle thing 😄
Genshin fandom said: genshin had the own rules. Yeah, the jungle rules.
Lmao 😂
Yeah, the random ass pull rules
"Teyvat has its own rules"
Yeah...from Tumblr and DeviantArt
I am so disappointed as this was supposed to be my nation. My culture finally getting explored...and got literally none of that.
I was expecting more tribal and warrior designs like Iansan...but not a single other character even looks like they're from Natlan, much less Genshin in of itself.
Hola, same here and I wan't to ask if you remember those first domains with prehispanic architecture. By the time playing i haven't see a single ornamental with that style. Is now all dragon tecnological or something like that (were's the plazas, "aquaductos" and pyramids??)
Iansan and kachina got the better designs imo.. yet iansan who was shown as the introductory char in the gi road map is not even gonna be playable until at least 5.4 😭
@@bubblesparks I know, it's such a travesty.
Worst part is the rumor mill says she might be standard too...she better not be, or I'm gonna be livid.
@@albepaidman That is a good question...though I am African, so was more on the look out for specifically African stuff.
I know, biased.
Nose de que te quejas si es la mejor nacion hasta ahora, los diseños y gameplay se siente unicos a diferencia de fontaine
Someone said Natlan is just Hoyo going "Look how worse we can do Wuwa" and although not entirely correct, it made me laugh out so fucking hard
Wouldn't be surprised if Mihoyo intentionally made Natlan worse to be petty idiots.
@@rickynguyen5108 It's gets harder not to compare them when Hoyo makes it too easy. Like seriously yeah Mavuika can fly... But the rider in WuWa THROWS his bikes onto enemies.
Also using the grappling hook, during battle, in WuWa feels better. At least for me.
@@usonohoshi6165 You can now fly in WUWA in 2.0 soooo we have that to, its also a gadget so everyone can use it
@@JessieJames-xo1gc I saw and I love.🥰
Recent leaks show it's only in Rinascita and has a stamina bar 💀@@JessieJames-xo1gc
17:26 They tried with Neuvilette before releasing Mualani, and boy they failed miserably, with his feature of spin to win, reducing it to none. And they got threatened to be sued and they revert it back lol, and we all know it's big coz they even gave apologems for it. Like wtf, u can buff char. alright, like what they did with Zhongli (and it's a whole other tangent) but nerfing them after they're released, it's just desperation to make even more stonks, and it's not even a circus act cause noone is amused
I was worried about it for a while but now Infinity Nikki exists so I'm like "yeah, whatever, I'll just play that instead".
You know, if Genshin's characters kits are going to be a disappointing, clunky, buggy, underwhelming yet still somehow powercreeping but also region locked mess, I might as well just play a game where they can't ruin gameplay by limiting character kits because there aren't any character kits in the first place and the gacha only has clothes and accessories instead.
OMG same 😭
Natlan just feels like someone jammed a piece of another game into GI.
Mualani surfboard was ok. Kinich pixels were weird but not completely unheard of since Nahida has similar elements in her animations. Maybe you could write it off as a dendro thing. Then it went further with the DJ stuff and finally with Chasca and Mavuika they just stopped giving a toss.
Natlan has some nice aspects but it’s overall disappointing. Having two male characters is pathetic. Especially after waiting a YEAR between releasing a new male 5star. The banners keep getting repetitive and boring.
Feels like they saw everyone enjoying the WuWa exploration features (wall running and grapple) and implemented ithose in the form of character kits, then they decided "WE HAVE TO DO BETTER, LETS ALLOW OUR PLAYERS TO FLY!" and jammed a flying gun and bike as well... only to get beaten by WuWa again by the wings lol.
@ That parkour like mobility in WuWa is a joy.
@@Gojiradogzillagodzilla The funny thing is Wuwa lets us do all that for free.
Genshin on the other hand decided to charge money for most of it or make it super clunky (you can't swap between the Saurians and characters or between non Natlan characters, but some Natlan characters let you swap mid air while in Natlan).
There's nothing wrong with advanced technologies in high-fantasy genres. In fact, most books I've read I loved concepts like that. Sumeru and Fontaine did it well, the technologies aren't out of place and make sense, immersing you further to the lore and giving more color to the world. Natlan however, is a complete mess. technologies that have no connections to lore are suddenly thrown at you to make it more popular, have no connections to the lore and don't make sense.
Suspension of disbelief can only go so far, and for me who had read many novels, books and webnovels, my tolerance is quite high. The direction they took made me quit the game even though I've played it since day one. Death of consistency is a slow and gradual thing, or that's what I thought. Genshin proved me wrong, it seems. I never thought there would be a day where i would hate this game so much.
Agree, tech in fantasy CAN work, hell Fontaine did it rlly well imo with the meks but you need to properly add them in there not just shit a bike in the least tech advanced region in the story 😂😂
yet we have scaramouche/wander's mecha and fontaines robots. & people say motocycles are out of touch for genshin? is it really now? I honestly dont think it matters.LMAO
@@SHAdow98V genshin fandom says, "Xilolen got blueprints" to this problem.
Yeah, cause "how do you have icecream in the middle of desert with no electricity or other means of power-supply?" will be answered, "we have fridge."
@@veipurr then you don't understand lore or i'd say you're just there in game for waifus/characters. The Scaramouche mecha works cause that's gatekept lost tech+a time traveller guy made it. ( again, who's part of the org which is gatekeeping lost tech of Khaenriah). AND Natlan isn't promoted as advanced nation...Sumeru was promoted to have connection with tech, Fontaine, well most innovative nation, Snezhnaya, again the tech gatekeeper nation, and Raiden shogun and scara are made by an archon using magic.(they're not simply robots). Maybe slow down and use your reading comprehension.
You don't care but people do and you should shut up cause this isn't about you. You're free to like shit but doesn't mean shit is good.
@@Nolziv01 honestly it was pretty tiring to make our point across like that to some people, and genshin devs wouldn't listen to players outside of CN anyways, so, I just left.
can't wait to see that weird cold mechanic from dragonspine in sneznaya and have the released roster be inmune to it
PLSSS
Hahahahaa that would be so funny. I wish!
Omfg i can totally see this happening, i'll even screenshot this and store it somewhere because this is 200% GOING TO HAPPEN.
@ what about childe tho 😭 poor guy
Even worse, they get buffed by being in said cold element. Making their kits borderline useless outside of it.
Natlan is the first zone that genuinely feels like the entire area was created solely to sell characters. It’s crazy how the main appeal of pulling characters has shifted from having well-designed, innovative, and fun characters that you want to pull because you like them - to characters that add QoL improvements to your gameplay experience (FOMO). It’s just sad
You don’t need the characters, there is access to the -saurs who give you the same benefits that the characters do. It just seems like most people are upset because they don’t want to have to go get an -saur to do whatever the gimmick is for that chest or area
@@Achance2c 1.the dinosaurs feel like bad & toned down versions of the characters - motivating the players "you could just spend money for the faster ones" 2. & most importantly - you dont have these dinosaurs consistenty - u need to find them , sometimes even looking for them for minutes, making it a rather frustrating experience once again.
you know why traveler cant just have a "whistle" to summon the dinosaurs they need for each situation? or a grappling hook gadget? simple. cause hoyo wants to make more money.
@ at most it takes a few seconds to find one, minutes is an extreme over exaggeration lol. You all complaining about this is so funny, they gave us a free option.
@@Achance2c free option with a lot of hustle, u need to constantly search for that monster and u need to get out to be able to get a good fight, you can only use them in natlan, while their qol character can be used anywhere and anytime hoyo know how to keep their revenue high 😂
@@Achance2c Sit you ass down and take the L HAHAHA
Yea in addition to the boring gameplay and gatekeeping to each region you have recycled designs. I can see them releasing a keqing of every element and they would still sell.
Don’t they currently have electro, dendro and geo
the many faces of xiao, true
Heh, now imagine they release a Qiqi for every color/element.
@@esaualfaro3447 Then adding them all to standard banner pool so that they all can spook the playerbase.
So the most primitive nation has the most advanced tech.
what makes it primitive?
@@lulufortytwo3884idk the house design, clothing design, and hmm...FRICKIN' dinosaurs?
You can tell an advanced civilization by the house design, clothing and their utilities.
And I can tell none of that is somewhat relevant to Natlan
>Clothing looks like it was made by an outrageous hollywood designer
>Houses looks like it was made by The Flintstones
>Utilities(Weapons&Stuff) are out of place
@@lulufortytwo3884people's expectations when they hear "tribal" and then get Pikachu faced when they see the gadgets and gizmos.
@@lulufortytwo3884 The continues wars, and despite the wars the dragons tech hasn’t been destroyed? Why the abyss isn’t attacking their weaknesses? Without the dragons technology they are nothing.
Who says Natlan is primitive? Ochkanatlan was the most advanced society in all Teyvat.
For people who said oh u dont need these new characters to explore natlan. Here is an example from real life. Imagine u travel by walking and bike. And then ur destination became further and further. Guess what? u will need to get a car or a motor or airplane, because its easier and time saving and less painful to travel. Sure u can still walk or bike but think about the time needed. Its the same shit for natlan characters right now.
That thing is that map is small and there is those fissure in every mountain so it is not a problem unless don't want to move a bit.
@@thomaskennedy5728 yeah small
.. for now
@@thomaskennedy5728 getting the characters with the specific ability of the saurains makes it so much easier to do those ss challenges and other things
map is small lmao. imagine to prove, too weak
@@onlineresident2174 you just try defend your lazy habit for something huh, saurian is good enough but you want want more and more, ww is most boring world explore and you tell genshin learn from that, world explore for new player is must
Everything after 5.0 feels like, "oh but wait" with strings attached.
I couldn't agree more about this issue in genshin, the character's design isn't fit with the environment of natlan, I can tolerate mualani kinich and xilonen because they still have animal/dinosaur element in their design like xilonen has cheetah animation while climbing, but dude chasca and mavuika I can't bruh, guess what's makes mavuika more absurd?? She spin the motorbike while charge atk which is her main dmg source. From now I think I'll just pull for previous character constellation or weapon while waiting for snezhnaya
3:22 I swear to God if they give Capitano a tank instead of proper gameplay I'm gonna crash out. Mavuika was one of the only 2 interesting Natlan characters (Citlali is cool) and they ruined both with stupid decisions
I think that they just accidentally added all good things in furina so now they simply ran out of ideas 💀
They could choose something like flaming horse instead, like the fire horse skin in AC Odyssey, made off element just like Oz, but pyro. Mixed of red and black, like lava. And when it's on air mode, it spreads wings like a pegasus.
A flaming pyro lava colored pegasus. Can you imagine? That would be badass imo.
But no. We got ducati 😑
varka stole the horses, what a douche
also tower of fantasy have horse mount (not recommended to try it/play it, it has a fair share of problems but at least some aspect that would make genshin better despite flaws and all)
@@anaisduh I think Natlan problem stems from their Honkai reference. I feel like the dev got forced to insert a bike inside the story so it fits the Himeko's reference.
And since Mavuika the Archon got bike, they then decided to F it and go ham with exploration using "other worldly technologies" but forgot this is supposed to be land of war and a tribal nation.
I always hate when they do honkai reference in Genshin & HSR, cuz they'll do anything just to fit their reference in the story. Sometimes it turned out to be good like Luocha and Venti but it often ended up bad like Raiden Ei, and now Mavuika.
I wouldve loved a pyro/fire Pegasus or Phoenix or anything really. They should've saved Diluc's ult for her mount 😂😂
@jerryeljeremy7790
Raiden Ei is the WORSE expy of the OG Raiden Mei of HI3. If the devs can't realistically make a good and logical reference to Honkai in that world, they shouldn't have tried at all. It breaks the fact that this is supposed to be stand-alone.
Almost NOTHING about HI3 Raiden Mei is even remotely referenced in Raiden Ei while trying to tie it down (and failing miserably at that) to the latter's own identity or whatever in Genshin's world. Basically, Raiden Ei is a pathetic cheap knockoff of the actual superior OG Raiden Mei of HI3, where the devs have completely forgotten about the former's actual sense of identity in Genshin's world and not even bothering to fix her horrendous writing.
@@jerryeljeremy7790 I remember I was in that genshin subreddit( yeah i sinned) and I wrote how come Natlan's character are more advanced than Fontaine's? And one guy replied "well, Xillolen got the blueprints". And i was like what the friiick? It's like saying "we have a fridge" to the question "How come you have icecreams in this hot desert town with no means to electricity."
Ahem, the point is Genshin is doomed and that part of fandom gonna defend it in every possible way. I said it in other places but Let me tell you Snezhnaya will be like GTA cause you know Ananta and NTE will be releasing in that year ( maybe).
I would say that "ruin" is hyperbole; but Natlan is why I've quit Genshin and now play WuWa.
This is the type of stuff you get when the player accepts anything. Anything...
Where skip button?
Btw. Once you get an actual PC and play Wuwa, you will realize how far Genshin would have to go to be even close. And it's only beggining for Wuwa.
To be fair
Wuwa is on a different engine an has the power of hindsight lol
@@saavlewdfanpage technically, GI has 4 years of hindsight XD
@@saavlewdfanpageur right u cannot make a skip button because genshin's engine is unity.
okay, i don't think that's a fair comparison? Genshin was released years before WuWa and WuWa is developed on different software than Genshin. Even until now, tons of players can't even play WuWa properly on PC without them crashing or lagging while Genshin runs fine
@@thatsaber01 of course each person will have a different experience with their phones, I play on a s21and pc, not the most advanced phone but it runs smoother now than ever. That being said, GI didn't learn from : HSR, ZZZ, wuwa, didn't make any significant changes for the first 3 years of its existence...so its not really a Hot take
Ngl when the first Natlan trailer dropped, my friends and I thought the region was like a Theme Park. Even the mention of an on-going tournament made us hopeful it's the Traveler's Shonen Tournament Arc. And oh yeah, side quest animations got progressively worse as white text over background describing the event has gotten prevalent--these animations peaked in 1.0 sadly
You just don't understand the white text over. It is sage of stolen flame's word directly appearing in the mind of traveler hence it is appearing in top of screen for us.
It is only when sage of stolen flame is involved in the quest and he has been involved in all the major quest of natlan.
@@thomaskennedy5728 that's nice, i was talking about first impressions doe (the first teaser trailer, that is)
and yeah, the blackout and white text is a massive case of tell don't show plagueing the game... which is sad
@@arominized huh what do you mean by the case? I don't understand your wording.
The quest is banger tho,most informative one till now.
@@thomaskennedy5728bro is saying his first impression can only be described as "tell don't show" everything from Natlan is just a storytelling word yapfest
I've replied this on someone's comment, but here i type it again.
Mavuika’s behavior with the bike feels out of place given her background. She comes from Natlan, a more primitive civilization, and even though she was exposed to advanced technology, it’s unrealistic for her to act as if she’s completely accustomed to riding a bike so quickly.
In real life, when someone encounters new technology, there’s always a learning curve. For example, if someone today discovered a hoverboard from an advanced, unknown civilization, they wouldn’t immediately ride it smoothly or perform stunts. They would struggle, learn, and adapt over time.
Mavuika, however, behaves as if bikes have been a part of her life and culture for years-riding with confidence and a "cool" attitude, like someone from our world where bikes have existed for over a century. This breaks immersion because her behavior doesn’t reflect the cultural and technological gap between her origins and the advanced bike she’s using. A more realistic approach would have been to show her learning to use the bike and developing her own style, bridging her primitive background with the modern technology she encounters.
I feel like people wouldnt be so pissed about these drastic changes in 5* character design both in kit and exploration, if they even bothered adding in proper f2p options like gadets that provide a better exploration experience, or a 4* character like Lumi from WuWa that players can just buy in the shop after saving, i just feel so bad because the player experience is getting worse and worse if you're not spending on the new shiny characters for better exploration, its bs cause players already have to give their time, money, everything and still get spit in the face and thank them for it....😐😑
yea or how bout a "whistle gadget" for the traveler to summon the dinosaurs that u need. but that would make them lose ton of money.
There are spots to get every saurian you need by any puzzle in the environment. And you can yoink any saurian along the way at any point. You get Kachina 5 mins after walking into the nation. They supply the players plenty.
@@amandaslough125 Kachina movement is shit in comparison to Mualani or even just Xilonen, now compare her to Chasca and Mavuika?
Saurians arent everywhere, you sometimes have to walk for minutes just to find ONE and they are severely handicapped as well, they're dogshit in comparison to the 5* characters and thats the point.
hoyoshills be like: "but but flying robots, wanderer gundam mode and some historical tech!" 😂😂 no, the point is, the whole natlan itself is really out of place making it what pokemon and monster hunter put in genshin universe? 😅 i could understand how characters look like but their tech for me is really out of place and also mavuika, what the heck are they thinking making her fight enemies with a fkn bike, that is so cringe! if only they could've separate her combat and motorcycle exploration, that would've been better 😂
THANKYOU FOR SAYING THAT!!
I FRICKIN' HATE Mavuika's Bike SOMUCH and her outfit is the most out of place in the entirety of Genshin/Teyvat, even her casual official artwork in social media is much better than that skin tight goon-hooking outfit
This. They could have made the bike an exploration only thing, even if it didnt have the flying thing just make it have a shit ton of fuel and players would be happy to zoom around.
But no, she uses it in combat and outside of natlan it runs for like, 5 seconds? 8 if you have C1 and almost unlimited at C6 lmfao
I also noticed that Natlan is really empty. Its like... you have to walk so much for a single chest. Up the mountain, down the mountain, up the cave, down the cave, underground, overground- its like the sumeru dessert in design AND THAT WAS A DESSERT!? THE UNDERGROUND AREA WAS FINE!!! but nooo they rather make you walk five minutes for a 2 primogem chest! It took me around 10 hours to 100% the mainland of Natlan and do all the quest and it only gave around 8k primos? thats at least a daily wage worth of primos dude!!! Why do I have to spend the amount of time I would spend at my day job walking around? AT LEAST GIVE ME ENGAGING PUZZLES INSTEAD OF ANOTHER HP SPONGE ENEMY!!!! I did the Isalnd dragon quest a little while ago and dude- why wasnt that the archon quest??!?!?1 It has lore, it has cool visuals, it wouldve worked so well! It even has a callback to mond with that dragon fight!!!! so why...?!?!?!
You apparently have never been to Sumeru
Its sad that after Fontaine, Natlan was kind of a disappointment, but we all know whats coming next, and 1 can't wait.
now that Mavuika has a motorcycle (which i find it quite dissapointing), they better make Capitano go berserk on his playstyle if he ever becomes playable
I hope capitano can ride a big sword like chasca. It would be amazing
@@kizuki2650 why is the captain riding a sword? is he stupid?
@@kekfield nahhh he can summon a big sword in the animation and natlan characters is all about exploration skills so capitano is riding a big sword like chasca.
@@kizuki2650 why would the captain summon a big sword and ride it? cant he just fly by his own? is he stupid?
@@kekfield wait is he stupid?
Genshin devs knew that we are worried about running out of stamina, so they added not 1, not 2, but 3 other stamina bars when you go to Natlan. Not only that, but they made those stamina bars exclusive to Natlan characters, so yeh, you need money.
But hey, they gave Kachina for free! We should be grateful that we're given a mid 4-star!!
Genshin devs knew they'll make money anyway, they know smooth-brained Genshin players that are still whaling on it will eat the crap that they give to the people.
Star Rail, ZZZ, and Wuwa are going to be my long-term games imo.
money? are u really play genshin? just use Saurians theyre scattered on entire map to use "exclusive stamina to natlan chars" u said 🗿
Bro im f2p and i got mualani, kinich and xilonen by "playing" the game sounds like u just got skill issue
@@yuukianimates3318 I'll take that as sarcasm 👍
@@John-hz8xy ye
@@John-hz8xy its not sarcasm, i have tons of characters with cons, its very easy you just need to save up and not be a gambling addict.
Natlan made me stop playing for extended periods of time. I usually immediately explore the map or do the archon quest on day 1.
Hoyo bullshit works since the playerbase is also bullshit. They LOVE being treated like shit. HSR is even worse when it comes to paywall and aggresive banner placements. But nobody complains there either.
The Firefly and Ruan Mei banners left my account with a permanent scar. I don't have Ruan Mei cause I pulled for Fitefly , and now I am watching everybody using Ruan Mei on every fucking team... it's so stupid I can't.
The more I think about it the stranger it becomes, the world building is so weird.
1. There's no phone in Teyvat so far, not even a handytalkie, they still use paper mail for communication. But in Sumeru, they can even make robots. Does people see robots as more essential thing than a phone?
2. There's no land transportation. So far there're only boats that we can ride in some nations, but human live on a land, not in the water, why there's no land transportation at all?. And suddenly Natlan has a whole motorcycle bruh.
3. I thought genshin's background was based on 90's, just at how traditional Mondstadt to Inazuma looks, by the lacks of electricity and technology. Sumeru was known with their prestigious school, so I can excuse that on having more advanced technology. But Natlan? Seriously?
and so much more, how tf the world building in this game work?
Apparently for nantlan, all the fancy gadgets (mavuika's sunglasses, chasca gun, kachina's drill) were all made by the genius named Xilonen
Which i find so ridiculous cuz if they have such genius why tf did we travel on a fucking slow hot air balloon. It makes all the npcs dumb bc apparently this chosen one could utilise phlogiston in ways that none of the other npcs could. Yea, what an ass writing
Even albedo has a whole explanation abt his khemia, where he learnt that and how he could create things and manipulate life as well. Yet xilonen just happens to be so crafty and genius? What happens to world building
@@bubblesparks but in reputation quest xilonen said that she is suprised chasca can control it when it is so much unstable. So what you find ridiculous is and what you wanted them to do would make them die sooner than from abyss.
She is no genius,although did make small tech like drill but unstable mess when it comes to flying things. other violent NPCs have portable ice cannons which is not made by her meaning people like her existed way before her.
It is even more understandable since it is all dragon technology.
@@thomaskennedy5728 i've only read chasca voicelines but there wasn't any lines indicating xilo's craft to be unstable. It was just her being extra cautious and giving out maintenance guide so there won't be issues when chasca uses them. Also, it's more of the fact that she could create these tools when not a single other person can. She is a resourceful talent that holds a very precious skill.
For a nation constantly at war with abyss, an occurence labeled as 'natural disaster', it just sounds dumb to me when u have this number one craftsman yet doesnt commision her for advanced weapons etc that could provide them better defenses. Especially when mavuika knows abt the 500 years max plan. If the phlogiston and dragon tech are the powerful source of magic, equivalent to khemia, then surely there are things to be prioritized when crafting the tools or machines for natlan's people survivability.
Idk about u but to me, when the archon has motorcycle, the other has rollerblades and other a flying gun, then surely they could come up with some little tweakings for the commonfolk mobility. Esp when we moved so fucking slow with that air balloon in the last quest. Atp they should've just created cars for us to use in the AQ and go ham with the modern tech as it is apparently gi's current creative direction with natlan. (And no one will question it the same way ppl just accept mavuika's bike cuz, its fantasy and instead of gas they are powered with phlogiston. And looks cool 🤷♀️)
@@bubblesparksnope, wrong. actually in tribal chronicles xilonen herself said that it is harder to tame and suprised chasca can control it so i am not seeing your point in assigning her the duty to make arial Vehicles. She also confirmed that she cannot make large pholgiston powered vehicles. Same quest also showed why large pholgiston powered vehicles aren't possible without constantly sucking the pholgiston from many saurians at once. Not only it is hard for her to make but also ethically wrong as there is no pholgiston source other than some humans and saurians.
The only one I have hard time is with motorcycle other aren't some kind of big brainer when all it needs is too attach wheels to shoes and other is literal dendro dragon trapped and only present itself in pixelated form. I also don't understand gun problem,it just has a design of gun but work like that cryo cannon local legend but with better capability.
The ballon is moving very fast,you just don't understand it. The hot air balloon is moving with the pace of non-gameplay traveler or npc. For them it is fast. Although it doesn't take much time to move in actual gameplay,it takes them quite a lot of time to move from one tribe to another for npc. But even gameplay wise,it takes us half an hour from moving one tribe to other according to the teyvat's actual time. In archon quest, time doesn't follow the same speed and we are technically moving faster than gameplay wise. Like it it takes from morning to afternoon if travel 1000m which is roughly 1km per 3 hour speed but we travelled 500m is 4 minute with hot air balloon as the time didn't follow same pace in quest.
0.5km/0.15 hour is faster than 1km/3 hour.
@@thomaskennedy5728 ive alr said i havent done any of the new tribal quest from chasca place and my judgement was only formed after reading chasca's voice line, not the quest.
Still, abt that hot air balloon as our ride was just pissing me off bc they kept saying if only they came a little bit faster, lot more lives could be saved. It becomes so annoying to me bc we all knew how they could afford to make xilonen have rollerblades, a modern time era, yet can not make a small modification just so this 'old fashioned' transportation could get a touch of modernization. Just so it can function accordingly and save ppl faster cuz they've been doing the abyss fight for fucking 500 years.. idk abt u but to me its still dumb that an archon who possess modern bike DOES NOT even think abt modifying these commonfolk transpoetation so they could at least be faster and thus more efficient in evacuating ppl. They hv stated sooo many times that abyss invasion is like 'natural disaster' and wont the proper logic is forming and developing mitigation?? Instead of an air balloon why cant they just insert cars by that point ffs. Or they could go Arcane route and make similar airships, whatever it is just somethinge other than an old fashioned transportation.
Its just funny from writing perspective bc they seemed to be so regretful of the thousand casualties when the advanced tech were not even fairly distributed.
And I agree w u abt mavuika's bike bc how come does she not use that from the very beginning.. its such an ass writing that doesnt rly land right for me when trying to portray this grirvances and calamity called war
Side notes, I still place Inazuma world quests as the best in delivering impactful world building that focuses so much on the more realistic consequences of war. (AQ still very weak nonetheless)
the funny thing is, when I saw the pyro Archon for the first time, I literally joked to my friend that she wasn't the pyro archon, but a biker girl... damn guess she really isn't a pyro archon but a biker girl
Came expecting a proper well thought out analysis on why natlan was so poorly received, only to see that the guy only stole the entire content of another creator, not even providing a link, and barely generating proper content or breakdown of his own. -_-
Yeah, the design decisions in Natlan are so disjointed. It feels like the devs just threw some keywords in an AI generator and used that as the basis for the region.
The only thing that really made me "wow" was Ochtanatlan. It was such a good area to explore, and the lore? 10/10. We could see the old dragon tech there that all Mavuika's fans are talking about but her bike doesn't represent that old dragon tech like we saw in Ochtanatlan (and I mean the visuals and design of this "dragon tech"). So their argument about how her bike is dragon tech yada yada is just a cheap excuse. There is a lore hole basically and we all know why they made her the way she is...
Been playing and spending in genshin since day 1 and by the arrival of Natlan, everything seems so bizarre and out of place for the characters. Though I liked that we can actually possess saurians for a "unique" (well nog so unique but kinda new for genshin) overworld traversal, the things wr can do basically is almost the same. Not only that, but the characters and region so far are so counter cultural to each other. Natlan was advertised as a nation of war, so players like me were expecting Natlan to be chaotic and less harmonized than Sumeru. But lo and behold, the tribes are even more peaceful at first glance than basically sumeru or inazuma. I even felt like Inazuma (though how lame Raiden's reason for being a tyrant) had more friction in it's faction than Natlan (kamisato clan and kujou and Watatsumi factions). To think Natlan is a nation of war...
The characters also are so counter cultural. Natlan, as one can see from the get go, is a nation of rather primitive origins and primitive practices, yet we see limited characters in motorbikes, DJ tables, roller blades, flying cannon and the like. To think Fontaine was the most advanced nation, yet they don't even have these gadgets in place. How the heck do these Natlan characters have these? Its actually nuts and shows bad planning and design. They should design these in a way that they should still coincide with the region's lore and cultural background.
Last gripe I had before I decided to quit after pulling Chasca was that we are in the 6th nation already and we still haven't had much clue and progress to the sibling search of the traveler. It was already 4 years, and looking back, there should've been significant progress. But no, Hoyoverse basically stretched out the story to milk it out and let players lose excitement and interest on what is happening with your sibling and Celestia. The Archon quests are also becoming too predictable, like the last big lore drop was Neuvilette's forgiveness of Fontaine's sins and several patches have gone by and nothing new has come up until we get to Natlan.
The excitement has died down. And my friends and I aren't willing to spend more, let alone log in, unless there are significant and big changes in story telling, character design and world design happens.
lol same i quit without even seeing Natlan Story Quest cuz i noticed when going into the region...wheres the war in a "Nation of War" lol and locking QOLs and region-locking into new characters is scummy both in Fontaine and Natlan.
The motorcycle, dj gimmick and dumb big gun is so ugly af in Genshin.. design literally just copy pasted from IRL
I can answer every single question you posed because it's been answered in the game quests. 💀💀
Raiden's "reason" (more like pathetic excuse) for being a tyrant is so pathetic, lame, and lacks any sense of originality or actual sense of care to it. No build-up or actual good reasons for it (not even different view points to give us more info). You can tell that both her and the Inazuma Archon Quest were horribly-written and rushed to hell. So yeah, both Raiden and the Inazuma Archon Quest are pure GARBAGE.
@@LimC.A if you quit before doing the story, of course you're not going to see the war. It's like people forgot Fontaine had a huge flood when Hoyo only advertised the peaceful water exploration.
Remember when fontaine was the most futuristic nation?
tbf this kinda artifacts that are useless on everything but one gimmic exists for longer now
heck there are straightup artifacts that nobody uses (lava walker to name one)
oh and the fontain set as he said after dfurina released means the usability of this set is bound to having furina
Natlan "Ruined Genshin Impact" is polarizing as it depends on whose perspective we're gonna look at it.
If we look at it from a normal point of view, yes it has, the immersion is broken, Natlan feels way too disconnected compared to all the other regions, exploration QoL locked behind a paywall which loses value outside of Natlan, Mavuika the pyro archon herself feels more like a ZZZ character than a Genshin character and more.
But if we look at it from a die hard Genshin fan's perspective, ain't nothing gonna ruin Genshin
They'll eat anything thrown at them 😂
Hey, if Genshills thinks these low quality are worth it, then there's no need to change.🤣🤣🤣
That's the funny thing; genshin wouldn't have changed in the first place lmfao
@@ZaniWuwathat's better because "P2W 🤑🤑💰💰 applications can be invested to Anime Adaptation, or or or- they can add more contents!!"
I love how delulu they can be
@@mr.edelweiss and then all they get is dawei crying
I'm going to say sometimes these companies are allergic to money 4 years later in the players are still asking for skins I feel like hoyoverse and these other companies are just allergic to money if you really want a lot of money just give the players what they want and you will get more money is it really that hard to get the players what they want or is that just too much to ask for
tbh, I started to feel disappointed with Genshin when Itto's body type turned out to be the same as the adult male model. additionally, the drawn abs are lazy work. I became even more disappointed when Alhaitham had the same skills as Keqing and now there are 2 more chars with similar skills as them. looking back, it seems Genshin really got lucky from the COVID pandemic and was fortunate to be the first of its genre, now Natlan is a slop show. overall, I think the game is mid and overrated. however, I still love the world design and music.
Speaking of Itto, not only "Feeble Scholar" Alheehee is more buff than him, Mutota is also way more buff than Alheehee.
Need I mention the Eremites too?
@ what frustrates me the most is the difference between the official artwork of characters like Itto and how they look in the game. In the art, he appears buff, while in the game, he’s like a twig. 💀 If other characters, particularly the NPCs, can be designed accurately, why can't Itto receive the same treatment? the Eremites are a great example they have a buff design that looks impressive and their drip is cool
@@yejiyej3369 fr man fr. Back in the days I would've pulled Itto had he actually was a buff chad, but alas, he's just a noodle armed wimp.
Let's not forget that NONE of the characters have any OFFICIAL measurements, like height. Just what generic model they're using.
@@ThisIsPampkin right? somehow I regret spending a few hundred just to get him lol but it is what it is I guess
the path at 4:53 takes the bird's stamina XD, imagine falling just before reaching the destination heheheh, the upper side of Ochkanatlan was a bit tricky at first but got around it well
Easy fix for her just make her turn into a dragon or Phoenix
The difference between the technology in other regions and natlan is it actually felt like it fit into a fantasy world up instead of being ripped from our modern world. I think the motorcycle could’ve worked if it was designed with a fantasy gimmick.
cant they get her a horse? thats a no brainer
lateset news, the motorcycle is actually a pyro dragon, and it has dragon affects on V5 update, so I don't hate it that much now
@@Neo-jtythat doesn’t change anything, its still a motorcycle. The added effects don’t make it better.
Natlan is so over. Next Wuwa patch we will be able to fly! Chasca found in a ditch.
I hate how instead of fixing the game and make it better for everyone everywhere
They just sell you the solution and it only work well in one nail like smh 😞
Meanwhile Wuwa: Jetpack go *whooosh*
They also made natlan have big vertical traversal places so doods are encouraged to use the pets and the new characters to make traversal not slow
If they keep up this whole idea of making characters just for quality of life improvements, snezhnaya will have characters to make opening doors and ascending stairs faster
01:46 tbh that is an upgrade to Ganyu's gameplay. They are improving boys 💀
not hard to do xd
15:44 Because Hoyo wouldn't have anything to copy from Tower of Fantasy if she rides a Dragon instead of a motor cycle. They have been already exposed of copying many games on bilibili 😂
im a genshin fan... and i cannot support natlan. the only character i look forward to is capitano and they're dropping the ball with him, everything else feels like it breaks the world building we've had the past 4 years. if the fake russians don't save genshin, it's pretty much dead to me. if only wuwa had more males, i'd go back to it.
And yet... Somehow they get nominated for player's voice, are they hypnotizing the players or something?
Nah, is called "bribing".
Because majority liked it, Fontaine also had same phase when it was released.
@@thomaskennedy5728nah it's the primogems, nothing else.
I expect dragons and dinosaurs to be included in a units kit... I get guns, roller blades, grappling hook, surfboard and motorbike. I didn't pull a limited Natlan unit coz of that reason. ( I only have ororon and kachina )
Wait, Kydro made a very good point! WHY ISN"T MAVIKA RIDEING A DRAGON?! Or any other characters in Natlan. That would actually be so cool!
Ngl ..hoyo is slowly becoming alike with THAT company that sells monsters inside some balls.
Ubisoftt??
heh, I know what you referring to
it starts with letter N and end with letter O
lel
Because they knew that doesn't matter how much of a shitty product they released, their costumers will always bought it.
So far I think practically all the Natlan characters (aside from the “making you pay for issues they created” part) have been pretty good, up until Chasca and her giant ass gun.
Mualani looks relatively decent, her bikini thing gets across that she’s from a water based area and her shark is a little on the nose but I’m willing to give it a pass. Kinich has relatively the same, he has more modern elements yes but he still looks like a Genshin character, Ajaw is a little strange but (i believe) he’s essentially a hologram of sorts, and the pixilated effects make him unique. Kachina really doesn’t have that much going on in general, but her design is cute and doesn’t feel too out of place, all of the 5.0 characters were pretty good in terms of design aside from a few strange elements. Unfortunately things start going downhill in 5.1. Xilonan has quite a few issues in terms of design, her dj booth, and her jacket specifically, also her shirt to an extent, her dj booth is just strange to say the least, theres many other characters that summon things like that but something about Xilonan’s specifically just feels off. Chasca meanwhile, doesn’t really have many good design features, her pants are odd to say the least with the leather and the half and half thing, her strange leather bodice and her overly complex scarf. Not to mention the giant gun she rides, if it was just a normal gun, like Clorinde for example, that she happened to use while flying, it would be much better. Ororon is much better than Chasca in terms of design, though I do still have a few issues with him, his jacket and gloves feel much too “emo boy” and just make him a little off compared to the rest of Genshin’s cast. Citlali is actually really good, though she’s supposed to be an old lady and yet she looks like she’s barely 16, the only thing im confused on is her strange floating hair pieces, but im willing to write it off as just another strange magical thing since the rest of her design is decently consistent. Mavuika, as you mentioned before, looks like a ZZZ character, not a genshin character, her lether bodysuit is odd and out of place, her motorbike is literally just a giant moterbike, it feels too out of place.
If the Tsaritza isn´t blasting the whole Teyvat in a Katyusha....
At a part of the game we learn that natlan used to be ruled by an advanced dragon race that had its own tech, if we were told about that in the beginning and told that people of natlan savagned the old ruin tech and used it In the fight against the abyss maybe it would have made some sense for why characters have these abilities
When Fontaine came out it was when i knew they were going downhill cuz region-locked character things just made things kinda annoying but when natlan first hit and the first unit that dropped was pretty much 10x better than the normal saurians i knew this game is going to be toast cuz locking QOL is rlly bad...who would have thought.
NGL, they did natlan dirty. Like I know, they can do better, but the design is meh. Like hello! Aztec, Inca, and Maya (etc) mythology is so interesting, but they didn't display the potential.
Natlan sure seems like the most out of place map in Genshin compared to other nations. Even the Archon quest is very underwhelming and not as fleshed out like Sumeru and Fontaine. It feels rushed and forced. The character designs and character writing is also very bad
OchkaNatlan is the only map that feels like Genshin and has deep mystery and lore behind it. I actually liked it a lot chasing the dragon and going above the skies
And yet v5.1 quest is the best vx.1 quest,better than both Fontaine and sumeru vx.1 quest
Capitano is the only reason im still sticking around.
it's so disappointing that they stopped working on their game, caring, and listening to players after they buffed/reworked zhongli. WoW as an example reworks every class/subclass for every expansion they do and continually work on characters to keep them balanced during each expansion. Just wish the devs didn't have such skill issues with developing and coding their own game.
4:07 sounds like apple strategy tbh
I love how neuvilette introduced natkan tonus as the „land of dragons“ and we havent seen one real dragon yet( i get how the sauriens are supposed to be the dragons but you cant tell me that neuvilette was reffering to them when he calls himself a dragon aswell, would be kinde degrading to put yourself on the same level as pets now wouldnt it).
I mean chascas gun could have simply been a weird anemo asian dragon that spits the anemo bullets. Mavuika could have had an westens dragon that can fly and swim/run fast. Ajaw could have been like mini durin and simply have a kind of „pokeball“ or smth. Natlan is not bad because of the characters, its bad because of how lazy the hoyoverse is. It is not hard to make every single feature from natlan make Sense somehow, but they simply took the first thing that came to mind.
And Don‘t get me started on the landscap. The nation of fire and there isn’t even a vulcano yet? We only have like on or to lava areas ? And the god of war and fire neither cares about war nor about fire 💀 if we continue that path snehznaya is hoing to be another desert and the tsaritsa is going to summon moons that you can teleport onto or smth lmao. Fr i hope the listen and start going into the direction they had with fontaine.
I absolutely hate how mavuika attacks with her motorcycle. Its so wierd that a fucking huge motorbike is jumping up and down and spinning on my screen. Like she is THE pyro archon. She single handedly carried the whole archon quest with her own hands, not a motorbike. Why is she nothing more than xiangling without the motorbike?
The main reason i stopped pulling for her, was waiting for years when i heard the pyro archon will be the himeko of genshin, then somehow a fricking non futuristic region has a supermodel in a latex suit riding a motorcycle as their archon, like who tf created her design bro
She attacks on the bike like a joust
You are so refreshing, thank you for the discernment, nuanced critique, and reality regarding these intentional and troubling choices
I would be offended if the Tsarina didn't arrive in a spaceship.
mint picker is such a great word... only a bald guy can come up with this term
Chasca is ripped off from League of Legends. Particularly the HIGH NOON Senna Legendary skin.
For me it's like everything was gatekept to 5 stars Natlan and we only have 2 four stars to use the 2 new relics, characters are designed with the exploration skill first. The insane lack of 4 stars in general, and the lack of explanation of the weapons. They just needed to make it that the heroes of the tribe can use these weapons of the first Dragons of Natlan and boom it's not so out of place since each is one of a kind and needs a hero name to use it.
In my opinion, yes. Natlan has ruined Genshin Impact.
Not just the character designs being all over the place, and pay-walling how to travel, my biggest problem is how Natlan is the first region to throw previous Genshin lore out the window, while simultaneously bringing old lore back into the story in unsatisfying ways.
Nahida is the youngest archon.
Lol, JK, it's Mavuika, despite the entire game saying otherwise until now! (Because of course Natlan gets to break the lore of how Archons work, so now anyone can become archon).
Inazuma clearly suffered the most following the Catalysm, as seen in the dangerous and wild landscape unlike any other region.
LOL no, actually Natlan suffers the worst from the Abyss! Can you see it in the overworld design? Nope! Trust me bro!
Fontaine is the most technologically advanced nation, all technology we have seen comes from Fontaine.
JK again, Natlan is way more advanced!
Genshin has established certain rules of the world with the leylines.
But Natlan breaks this rule and has its own leyline system completely unique!
All other Genshin characters relies on energy to use burst?
Not our super special mary sue Mavuika, no! She needs to be totally unique and different, so she gets her own burst system!
It's like they wanted so desperately to make Natlan unique, and it just ruined the experience.
They have retconned their lore, and ruined the biggest moments in the story.
The reveal that Seelies are angels? Just randomly dropped on us with no importance or impact.
The biggest mystery we've had, the fake sky? We see it, and no one in the story cares.
It's just so annoying.
The fact that in WuWa you can actually travel with any character with echoes feature as main transportation & gadget, instead of forcing you to pull for one specific character that have limited time for you to get it.
I wouldn't mind if the motorcycle or these other technology Natlan characters use is related to dragons.
It would fit the theme of the other nations as well, with Sumeru's Akasha - powered by the Dendro Archon's Gnosis, Fontaine's Oratice Mechaniqué D'analyse Cardinal - powered by the Hydro Archon herself.
Zhongli leaves the technological advances to his people, like Ningguang with her Jade Palace, but he was the sole source of creating the entire world's Mora when he had his Gnosis. And even gave blessings to his people during Lantern Rite before his 'death', ensuring that their businesses are prosperous.
Venti is an absentee Archon, but he guides and protects his people when he is needed.
So, what does the Pyro Archon do? Each Nation has their own powerful dragon (except Inazuma), so does she have one too? It would be nice if she did and even went to war against it or beside it. Like some Dark Souls boss or something.
P.S: I quit playing Genshin after the Fontaine quest since I wanted to take a break. But with all the events I missed, and as a person who was previously dedicated to the events so that I was all caught up, the FOMO overwhelmed me and I stopped playing it entirely. If I can't play the events and see my favourite characters interact, even if it is filler, why play it at all if lore will be gatekeeped from me?
So far, I think the first girl with the bunny ears and Orion(?) are the ones that looks at least the most loyal to Natlan. Simple designs that aren't over the top, but individual enough that it blends into the environment.
If anything, I thought the Sumeru playable Characters from the desert, as well as the enemies, were a sneak-peak to what Natlan's characters would look like. So it was like whiplash when I saw what they actually looked like.
she fucking run the whole nation. Like literraly run it, budget, assignemt , supplies route, reconstruction ecc ecc, while at war with an enemy that like to teleport in at random
to the point that her answer to "how do you relax?" is "i do more work"
if i dont see the mfs in snezhnaya pulling up with TANKS.. i SWEAR to god
With T34's
Dawei probably think that they will listen, but not giving any answer.
Next time on 6.x update :
The unknown god pulled up on sneznaya with hyperion and a whole mecha army on its deck
And then the Tsaritsa summoned her own army: the brave people riding spaceships, who got rid of the Mecha army using laser beams and soon surrounded the bigger aircraft, reaching victory!
instead nation of war, natlan feels more like nation of travel agents
This entire region is an asset dump.
Imagine a country where people live in tent, dirt road, go to war on baloon, poorly maintain timber bridge leading to their main cities, then their fighters use gun and bike as their main weapons, lol
Just did their new flying battle, since Monstadt, in Natlan. And all I can think is... "For a four year long gap to improve this sequence... It BARELY change." I didn't even know about the dash option because they switched it with the attack.
That maybe on me of not notiing the button changing design... and the textvthat pops half way through the freaking chase. but how the hell do you expect people to be READING during a CHASING section?
Also I thought they just lazily left it there, because they lazily kept the stamina bars that were clearly not being used.