Arrma Granite vs Arrma Big Rock - which one is better

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  • @moerc
    @moerc 4 роки тому +21

    Always Always Always excellent insight for us!
    Appreciate you sir!
    👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽🏎🏎🏎🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽

    • @moerc
      @moerc 4 роки тому +3

      Thank you so much for the pin!!!!! I’m feeling bossy today now!!!
      🏎🏎🏎🏎🏎🏎

  • @Jaybizzie11
    @Jaybizzie11 3 роки тому +3

    I bought a granite 4x4 blx after watching you drive yours. I looked up videos of them in action and yours had me like a kid waiting to get mine. Mines is on the way here now

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  3 роки тому +1

      Sweet congrats man let me know when you do your first run okay?

  • @Enzo100311
    @Enzo100311 4 роки тому +7

    You always deliver! Thanks man! No UA-camr BS from you, just a normal guy and his R/C cars!
    How you feel about the kaiju vs these 2...

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  4 роки тому +5

      coming soon 😈😈😈!!!

  • @jayorsilentbob8334
    @jayorsilentbob8334 3 роки тому +5

    AWESOME video!!! I just bought my first hobby grade RC car yesterday and love it. I got thre granite and it rips. I do not have a brushed motor but for a novice like me it RIPS!!! Love this video.

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  3 роки тому +1

      congrats on the purchase!!!

    • @zacheusfass319
      @zacheusfass319 2 роки тому

      You don't want a brushed motor my guy 🤣 brushed= slow

    • @jaydee0187
      @jaydee0187 2 роки тому +2

      @@zacheusfass319 I have a slightly modified Traxxas 4-Tec with a 10 turn brushed motor and it's faster than my brothers brushless slash that supposedly is supposed to go 50+mph.I can't wait to put a brushless system in it tho

  • @southerncali88
    @southerncali88 3 роки тому +5

    I’m torn between a granite and big rock for my son... this will be his first 30+mph RC car. He loves the look of the big rock but I like that the granite looks to be sturdier for a boy that will most definitely be jumping it. Thank you for all the videos they really help!

    • @gaffle-411
      @gaffle-411 2 роки тому

      Seems like the Big Rock is built better.

    • @urge251980
      @urge251980 2 роки тому

      @@gaffle-411 it has a longer wheelbase, different tires, what else makes it 'better'?

    • @gaffle-411
      @gaffle-411 2 роки тому +1

      @@urge251980 when I was debating these two trucks, I saw another comparison video that lead me to thinking the Big Rock was better.
      Consider that the longer wheelbase alone could mean less flipping. Less flipping = less chance of breakage.
      There were a few other reasons though that I don’t recall. I went and got my son a Losi LMT Grave Digger instead.

    • @urge251980
      @urge251980 2 роки тому

      Man I hear you..looks like the big rock has wider stance too but I could be wrong. I'm stuck between building an og emaxx or buying a new Big Rock rtr for the winter snow jaja

  • @joe-murphyslife
    @joe-murphyslife 4 роки тому +5

    Love my Granny.. absolute beast.. but I'm liking the handling of the Big Rock

  • @ScottMcLinden
    @ScottMcLinden 4 роки тому +5

    Thanks JayTee on the info for the bodies.

  • @Largetalons
    @Largetalons 3 роки тому +8

    They're both great but I love that big rock.

  • @Hedeadz
    @Hedeadz Рік тому +1

    Thanks for showing them both running!

  • @heat305rc
    @heat305rc 4 роки тому +8

    Bigrock all day for me. Great video JT💯💯💪💪

  • @bbeckers24
    @bbeckers24 4 роки тому +6

    My big rock did the same thing the other day. It had steering and no throttle. I just had to recalibrate the throttle.

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  4 роки тому

      😎😎

    • @BASSstarlet
      @BASSstarlet 3 роки тому

      Is there a problem with esc or tx/tx?

    • @bbeckers24
      @bbeckers24 3 роки тому

      I think it's just a random glitch. Doesn't seem to be an ongoing problem.

    • @bbeckers24
      @bbeckers24 3 роки тому

      Turn on radio. Turn car off. Then on the car, press and hold the little button in front of on/off switch and turn switch on. When the esc starts beeping and red light is flashing, let go of the button. With throttle trigger on remote in neutral press and release small button again. Full throttle, press again, full brake, press again. Turn switch off and then back on.

  • @DOFIXERR
    @DOFIXERR 3 роки тому +2

    I have both V1s and it was a toss up. They both are amazing BUT I had to modify my BRCC quite a bit to get it to perform better. With that said I Iean toward the Granite as the better value. But it may be different with the changes they made to the V3 BRCC! That widened stance is a huge improvement!

  • @foellerd
    @foellerd 2 роки тому +2

    Big rock had me at longer and wider chasis. New favorite arma 3s platform without having owned any of them yet. Looking to upgrade from my 2s brushless redcat volcano epx soon. The tolerances on the redcat are terrible and it really shows at speed, Squirrely AF!

  • @stephen1819
    @stephen1819 2 роки тому +1

    My next Arrma will be the Big Rock !!! Love the look of it and I do more off road!! Awesome video thanks

    • @Donnieburger80
      @Donnieburger80 2 роки тому

      Just bought the big rock cant wait to off road it. Just waiting for my charger that's on backorder.

  • @chalky_white
    @chalky_white 3 роки тому +1

    I just picked up a big rock 3S, it's not even out of the box I'm psyched

  • @jobeybasques97
    @jobeybasques97 3 роки тому +2

    Just got me a big rock it’s a beast great video JT 🤙🏻🤙🏻

  • @secureprivacy2080
    @secureprivacy2080 3 роки тому +1

    Killed two servo now on my senton the new design major flaw now is when something gets in the horn behind it can't get out what the now open area just traps it the 1st was a rock the 2nd was a peace of a stick both around pinky tip thick . I think I have a good fix but not sure will need to test more simple people will say why didn't they do this before ? Lol

  • @treysals
    @treysals 3 роки тому +1

    Why would the granite handle better on road? I would think BR would be better since it’s wider and looks lower? Just curious

  • @donniemarks94
    @donniemarks94 4 роки тому +5

    Dude idk which one I’d get probably the senton but I like the big rock to 😂

  • @cjboots1115
    @cjboots1115 2 роки тому +3

    For a new guy getting into the hobby, would you suggest the big rock or granite? I currently have an ECX torment ( its POS), which I'll be giving to my teenager. I am looking for an all-around fun truck for myself and an activity to do with my sons. But to be honest, I am more partial to the big rock primarily based on its looks...

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  2 роки тому +1

      big rock 100% 😀

    • @cjboots1115
      @cjboots1115 2 роки тому +3

      @@JayTeeRC thank you kindly!!!! Keep up the great content !!!

    • @cjboots1115
      @cjboots1115 2 роки тому

      @@JayTeeRC wondering why people say the arrma big rock is such a good deal when it doesn't come with batteries and chargers at the end of the day I could get a traxxas hoss or something similar at almost the same price point as buying the big rock and the batteries/charger

    • @rlane4osu199
      @rlane4osu199 2 роки тому +1

      @@cjboots1115 the Hoss doesn’t come with a battery or charger either and is $100 more. Not sure where you’re coming from.

    • @stormycannon8904
      @stormycannon8904 2 роки тому

      Bro I have the same ecx torment over 10 years I think still flying it ,just bought a granite and a big rock for the wife

  • @mrtambourineman6107
    @mrtambourineman6107 2 роки тому +1

    I'm getting the big rock for my first r/c car! Can't wait to race on beach

  • @ajgreen868
    @ajgreen868 3 роки тому +2

    Getting back into the rc videos cause summer is coming! Sucks that I line in a cold environment for 6 months. Thinking about getting me that vortex?

    • @bpeterson3270
      @bpeterson3270 2 роки тому

      I got the big rock for winter it’s great if ur roads aren’t ice scraped

  • @mrtambourineman6107
    @mrtambourineman6107 2 роки тому +1

    I'm just gonna end up buying all the damn Arrma 3s line-up, I know it!

  • @phillmonktree
    @phillmonktree 3 роки тому +2

    Both great cars, what was the problem with the granite?

  • @flashtu
    @flashtu 4 роки тому +1

    Got problems to run the big rock at 3s in a straight line but i put a gyro in it now its fine.

  • @LutherBuilds
    @LutherBuilds 3 роки тому

    I just did a chassis swap by making my Granite a Big Rock. It wheelies so much less. Now I have to find a body that fits well. I am still using the Granite body but just had to drill new holes. Looks a little bit weird. I’ll probably just wait till the BRCC bodies are back in stock.

  • @thatdude610
    @thatdude610 Рік тому

    The big rock is a wheelie machine if you want it to be. No need to loosen the slipper. You need to change the punch settings in the ESC. You can find it in the manual or on UA-cam. You can do stand still back flips if you up the punch.

  • @justinvanaulen2478
    @justinvanaulen2478 4 роки тому +3

    Jay, thoughts on the durability of the new Big Rock 3s body? It seems beefier then the current 3s bodies from Arrma. Great comparison!

  • @KruseNStuff
    @KruseNStuff 4 роки тому +2

    GOOD STUFF JayTee. NICE comparison video FOR SURE. STAY UP BRO🤜🤛💯🍻✌️

  • @mikefas5406
    @mikefas5406 3 роки тому +1

    Which would be better on an outdoor dirt track? Same, I guess? They are both considered bashers, right? Going voltage for my kid but might get one of thee for myself because I have an old gas revo that I'm sick of playing with and a losi mini 8 that isn't great for bashing. 😕

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  3 роки тому

      go for it...get one ;)

    • @mikefas5406
      @mikefas5406 3 роки тому

      @@JayTeeRC so many hobby shops trash the voltage. Having a hard time deciding now. Stampede is 100 more but seems slower and older....

  • @GreatLakesRC
    @GreatLakesRC 4 роки тому +4

    Big Rock with Granite tires would be best 👌

  • @browns1ism
    @browns1ism 3 роки тому +2

    I’m a novice to this but love your videos on the arma big rock and it has convinced me to get one also can you put lights on the arma big rock again I’m a beginner and just would like to know thanks.

  • @DanRussell-q8s
    @DanRussell-q8s 9 місяців тому

    They both have something on them that is a little different than the other but everyone is a little different than someone else too. So does that make them better ? I don't think so . Bottom line is if you are in the market for one then whichever one you choose have fun with it because that is really what it's all about anyway .

  • @ethanroller1385
    @ethanroller1385 4 роки тому +14

    Jaytee: We’ll do some mild jumping
    Also Jaytee: *sends it 45 feet*

    • @moerc
      @moerc 4 роки тому +2

      Lol, jay tee got a heavy trigger finger, he always shoots to kill. Lol
      🏎🏎🏎🏎🏎🏎🎯🎯🎯🎯

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  4 роки тому +1

      😂😂😂

  • @Juacocb7
    @Juacocb7 4 роки тому +1

    Nice video nan. For the bigrock any body that fits a slash will fit on the big rock same goes for the senton and the typhon same wheelbase. For the granite any body that fits a stampede will fit perfectly

  • @duecerc3345
    @duecerc3345 4 роки тому +2

    As usual he comes thu again, with the hottest trucks and the best insight.. Keep 🆙 the good videos bro 😎
    #FactsNoFiction

  • @derrickmattox3929
    @derrickmattox3929 Рік тому

    What are your thoughts about using a Limitless body🤔👍🏾

  • @treysals
    @treysals 3 роки тому +1

    was the Granite stock? What type of battery are you running? Thanks

  • @gourobkundu2173
    @gourobkundu2173 4 роки тому +1

    My friend is getting a granite blx. Super excited.

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  4 роки тому +1

      sweet!!! tell him congrats

  • @joachimk.480
    @joachimk.480 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for your work JayTee, i think i'll go for the Big Rock...keep on going pls!

  • @SpeedSyko
    @SpeedSyko 3 роки тому

    My big rock seems faster? Didn’t gps it. The body holds up on the big rock, the granite body crushed in the rear. The wiring on all the 3s needs to be installed forward to avoid damage. Great video!

  • @relaxeful
    @relaxeful 3 роки тому +5

    i think i like the big rock better

  • @ScottMcLinden
    @ScottMcLinden 4 роки тому +7

    Arrma tough!

  • @sidvicious3129
    @sidvicious3129 3 роки тому

    I'm going Big Rock, Jay what charger are you using? Are you using that fancy Spectrum automated? What is your manufacturer choice for Batteries for these?

  • @ReadySetRC
    @ReadySetRC 4 роки тому +4

    Loving that BRCC🔥🔥

  • @doityourselfrcdrew6807
    @doityourselfrcdrew6807 4 роки тому +1

    Any body size 12 inch or more will fit. I have the Proline 2020 Jeep Rubicon Gladiator on mine. Great video! Bash On brother!

  • @myclassmate7588
    @myclassmate7588 Місяць тому

    Can you help me? I have a big rock and the wheels keep coming off, I’ve returned it to Amazon and the same thing happened to the second one. I tightened the screws roo

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  Місяць тому

      Are wheel nut any good

  • @arod7318
    @arod7318 4 роки тому

    Nice run jay tee what do you think about them pro line trencher tires? Do you know if the 3.8 would fit on the big rock.

  • @EnjoyLifeLikeaKid
    @EnjoyLifeLikeaKid 2 роки тому +1

    Such a great vehicle.

  • @redbeardrc1452
    @redbeardrc1452 4 роки тому +1

    Knocked that esc silly in the Granite. Must have caught one of your roundhouse kicks in the noggin!!!🤣 Thank you for showing them both! 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  4 роки тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @joevozzo1
    @joevozzo1 2 роки тому

    hi have you cut a slit in the chassis where spur gear is or to put velcro to stop dirt going in the power module thanks

  • @sumovibez7116
    @sumovibez7116 4 роки тому +3

    I was telling a UA-camr j grant about you and your channel y’all should link he has great rc racing content

  • @donuttime2507
    @donuttime2507 4 роки тому +1

    I've seen a few video's saying that the big rock could do with a harder shock oil? It's on my list though. Love the all black 👌

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  4 роки тому

      probably but oil in diffs I would 1st

  • @lennyz853
    @lennyz853 3 роки тому

    Just want to know on jumps, if the nose goes up,what do you do? If the nose of the truck goes down,what do you do?

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  3 роки тому +2

      up..alittle brake...down a little throttle

  • @frankposterello1628
    @frankposterello1628 3 роки тому +1

    That's odd you say the granite handles better on road since it has the shorter wheelbase. Have you actually tested the two and that's what your found?

  • @stevegabriel6982
    @stevegabriel6982 4 роки тому +1

    Have them both, two different animals because of wheelbase, but loving BR with Granite tires. 👍👊

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  4 роки тому

      sweet

    • @zxulzwtf6946
      @zxulzwtf6946 3 роки тому

      I'm geting one which is the best

    • @stevegabriel6982
      @stevegabriel6982 3 роки тому +1

      @@zxulzwtf6946 I prefer the BR, it's more stable and will wheelie less than the Granite. It jumps better IMO and just as fast.

    • @zxulzwtf6946
      @zxulzwtf6946 3 роки тому +1

      @@stevegabriel6982 thx

    • @stevegabriel6982
      @stevegabriel6982 3 роки тому

      @@zxulzwtf6946 No Problem, think you will love the BR! 👍

  • @julieromano4678
    @julieromano4678 3 роки тому

    Hi Can you tell me what batteries you was using, I have big rock and running 3s 5000 50c but you seemed to get longer run time than i do?!
    Paul

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  3 роки тому

      they were some SMC lipos. they have different sizes and it may be in the description

  • @3rdofthree
    @3rdofthree Рік тому

    Good driving thanks for the share!

  • @airbornerc4654
    @airbornerc4654 4 роки тому +4

    The video we've all been waiting for! 😄

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  4 роки тому +2

      To be continued😛😛😛

  • @robertredzich7292
    @robertredzich7292 4 роки тому +1

    Very good. Nicely controlled skills 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @kodak_jack
    @kodak_jack 3 роки тому +1

    Good comparison. Do you see yourself needing to mod them to make them any better or are they good out of the box? If somebody already had batteries with Deans, is there an adapter available? Do the diffs and other gears seem to take the beating? Giving you plastic on a Mega is an insult. You might as well save a few more bucks and get the better stuff right off the bat.

  • @RCVHX22
    @RCVHX22 4 роки тому +1

    Just awesome my friend my like for sure 👊😉👍

  • @Dsm152
    @Dsm152 3 роки тому

    Which one is more durable?

  • @omaromer5008
    @omaromer5008 3 роки тому

    Hey guys so I am choosing between a big rock and a granite what should I choose??

  • @fluellenmediabymarekusflue6320
    @fluellenmediabymarekusflue6320 4 роки тому +1

    Big rock looking nice. Might go that way vs granite

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  4 роки тому

      either way ur good

  • @mikecollins2778
    @mikecollins2778 3 роки тому

    Nice video bro! But let's get real, when you gonna run a arrma 6s vs the C7? Epic!

  • @leannmccoy7805
    @leannmccoy7805 3 роки тому +1

    I just ordered my Big Rock today!

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  3 роки тому +2

      sweet...congrats

    • @leannmccoy7805
      @leannmccoy7805 3 роки тому

      @@JayTeeRC I absolutely love the big rock. I highly recommend it to anyone looking to buy one

  • @goreyboggs
    @goreyboggs 3 роки тому +2

    Well there goes $319! Lol I’m getting the Big Rocky🥸

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  3 роки тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @_.b.rc.g._
    @_.b.rc.g._ 4 роки тому +6

    Granite for meeee

    • @airbornerc4654
      @airbornerc4654 4 роки тому +3

      Me too 😉

    • @_.b.rc.g._
      @_.b.rc.g._ 4 роки тому +4

      @@airbornerc4654 I got mine 9 days ago and I bash it so hard. Everything is OK the only issue is the rear place of the body. A lot of big scratches caused by a lot of wheelies and crashes

    • @airbornerc4654
      @airbornerc4654 4 роки тому +5

      @@_.b.rc.g._ I got mine about a week ago too, and you're right, NOTHING breaks! It almost seems impossible! 😂 Mine has scratches and dents too, but hey, isn't that how Arrmas are supposed to look? 😉

    • @gonzodetroitify
      @gonzodetroitify 4 роки тому +4

      🤓🤓 yes Jaytee that backflip knocked the sense outta the granite 🤕🤕 awesome show of bashable trucks here

    • @_.b.rc.g._
      @_.b.rc.g._ 4 роки тому +3

      @@airbornerc4654 YES

  • @cds3650
    @cds3650 3 роки тому

    Can u recommend any places to bash in the Atlanta area?

  • @kevosrcadventures9019
    @kevosrcadventures9019 3 роки тому

    Nice I have a granite too it is awesome I wonder i could upgrade the granite with a wider suspension??

    • @futabaguy1
      @futabaguy1 3 роки тому

      Yes you can:
      I did it recently on my Granite v3. I used the arrma typhon a-arms (RPM brand) and longer turnbuckles (6) 4 front and 2 in the rear AR330542 (Arrma part #)
      Rear a-arms #80842
      Front a-arms #80762
      Look it up there's videos on how to upgrade wider suspension for the Granite.

  • @smithtownrc4973
    @smithtownrc4973 4 роки тому +1

    Yo my servo went out in my granite any good ones to choose form 😩

    • @cacanjacowans540
      @cacanjacowans540 4 роки тому

      When my stock servo went out on my Granite I replaced it with the Blue Savox #0231SG ($40)

  • @IROC-ROB
    @IROC-ROB 2 роки тому

    Great video! I’m definitely feeling the Big Rock. Did you ever put the Granite wheels on the Big Rock? I’m curious to see how it is

  • @PhillyDee215
    @PhillyDee215 4 роки тому +2

    Both are 🔥🔥🔥

  • @islandrc-duke1972
    @islandrc-duke1972 4 роки тому +1

    Great video,both are awesome

  • @RandyCooper85
    @RandyCooper85 2 роки тому

    I'm pretty sure the big rock is quicker both on and off road. It's more stable and has tires that don't balloon nearly as bad as the granite.

  • @randall4411
    @randall4411 4 роки тому +1

    Both are nice ......I love my Granite.
    It's just right for the places I have to run .

  • @TheTylerjoy04
    @TheTylerjoy04 Рік тому

    Both Have The Same Kv Motor?

  • @rcsmith5909
    @rcsmith5909 4 роки тому +1

    Your the man bro.👊👍

  • @Lakecenterlawncare
    @Lakecenterlawncare 3 роки тому

    Could you show how you operate the controller for the inexperienced? Thanks!

  • @akeemjohnson7159
    @akeemjohnson7159 3 роки тому

    So the granite like a better version on a red at volcano pretty much

  • @shorty9863
    @shorty9863 3 роки тому +1

    Big rock is the bomb

  • @thatmarred_mustang
    @thatmarred_mustang 3 роки тому

    You know what's better then these both?? The Big Rock Nero 😆😁

  • @thegoodwood76
    @thegoodwood76 2 роки тому

    Come on J Tee your my coin flip. Which one both are in the cart but the wife said only one...lol

  • @luisestrella45
    @luisestrella45 3 роки тому

    What batteries do you use

  • @joesant1943
    @joesant1943 14 днів тому

    I put the typhoon/big rock arms on my granite and voila

  • @suhag1002
    @suhag1002 4 роки тому

    Rival mt10 or SENTON mega???

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  4 роки тому +1

      two different types you are comparing here. BL to brushed

    • @suhag1002
      @suhag1002 4 роки тому

      @@JayTeeRC I’m from the uk and the prices for the cars and 2 2s lipos with a hobby grade charger is the same. There’s no real comparison and I was wondering what’s the best for a beginner

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  3 роки тому

      @Matthew Hayslett it is but senton mega is brushed..

  • @KanYahryEl
    @KanYahryEl 3 роки тому

    You should have included the Outcast 6s 🤔?
    Good video 👏👏👏👍

    • @TheChad435
      @TheChad435 3 роки тому +1

      These 2 trucks are 3s...comparing them to a 6s is apples to oranges.

    • @KanYahryEl
      @KanYahryEl 3 роки тому

      @@TheChad435 true,my mistake

  • @albertopalos8326
    @albertopalos8326 9 місяців тому

    Cuál es mejor???

  • @KEA1220
    @KEA1220 3 роки тому +2

    I have a big rock and my friend has a granite and I beat him by a far distance on the road

  • @vmaster4406
    @vmaster4406 3 роки тому +4

    The big rock looks a lot quicker

  • @RcDady
    @RcDady Місяць тому

    and im following

  • @TrialsOfOne
    @TrialsOfOne 3 роки тому

    Just going to get both

  • @Arrma-ne2ss
    @Arrma-ne2ss 3 роки тому +1

    I got the big rock 😁

  • @r.k.1972
    @r.k.1972 2 роки тому

    The Granite is faster because of the bigger wheels 😉

  • @KEA1220
    @KEA1220 3 роки тому +1

    My big rock goes super fast and far with wheelies

  • @sumovibez7116
    @sumovibez7116 4 роки тому

    And was that 3s

  • @dgheaa7535
    @dgheaa7535 2 роки тому

    Sound like a kid yet you roll that vette

  • @tonyynot484
    @tonyynot484 3 роки тому

    I saw a lot of videos of granite going out after jumping. It seems not so durable.

  • @mychalpstanton9188
    @mychalpstanton9188 3 роки тому

    Lol big rock faster on and off road i have both dont know what wrong woth yours bid

    • @JayTeeRC
      @JayTeeRC  3 роки тому +1

      Did you not see my superspeed Saturday test on it.? The big rock I could not get up to full speed. Go back and see my speedruns on it and you'll see that I tested both for top speed