Sigma 10-18mm F2.8 vs Sony 10-18mm F4
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2024
- In this video I compare the Sigma and Sony 10-18mm ultrawide APSC lenses. The Sony is a 10 year old design, the Sigma is all new. You can buy this sony by contacting me on instagram: / arthur213
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i really do appreciate you traveling to the alps to test these lenses. that's a level of commitment above and beyond what other reviewers are doing these days. =-)
100% it’s a shame other reviewers aren’t following suit!
Your channel is one of my favorites for lens reviews. Thank you. From your reviews (and others), I did buy the Sigma 18-55mm for my Fuji XT4. Then I bought the Sigma 50mm, and I’m impressed. And now I’ve ordered the Sigma 10-18mm, and waiting…. Without your channel, I probably wouldn’t have even given Sigma a shot. 😊
It would be great to compare with the Sony 10/20 which is much more recent and a better competitor to the Sigma.
Thanks! 🖖🏼 … but why not the newer Sony 10-20 4.0 vs. Sigma?
Lots of existing reviews already show. SONY has got motor zoom and F4.0. Thumb down.
Not a fair comparison in my opinion. Well, I guess it's one way to make the brand new Sigma lens shine. No doubt it is excellent but it would have been more helpful to see it up against the Tamron 11-20mm f2.8 and the much newer Sony 10-20mm f4.0.
will you compare the sigma to the tamron 11-20. tx
one really important thing is: The 10-18 OSS is the ONLY wide angle zoom OSS lens. which, in the video world is a deal breaker. Some some videographer will really appreciate it when it comes to handheld shooting, and there is no replacement for it. yes, some sony body have ibis, but it doesn't means ibis will do everything for you. And some legacy cinema cameras don't have ibis. They really need a new wide angle zoom with oss, Sony PLEASE.😢
Totally agree, also oss and ibis work together when paired making it a huge value
Yep. I have an a6400 and non-OSS lenses suuuuuuuuuuck for video work and low shutter speed photos. Unless Sony makes another OSS ultra wide I'm just gonna get a second-hand one for like $400 CAD.
@@paologiordano.photos Will the video stabilization be much better if combine the active stabilization (on the newer Sony APSC camera) with the 10-18mm OSS compared to Sony non OSS lenses? thanks!
Really enjoyed showing quite a bit of pics comparing it with the Sony lens. Got my Sigma 10-18 two months ago and I am really satisfied with results. Coupled with my A6600 makes a light and compact combo that works great when walking all day around a city.
What do you think about the Sigma vs the New Sony 10-20 f4
I sold my Sony 10-18 in 2021 and bought the Tamron 11-20. Since I bought an a7iv in January 2022 and sold all my APS-C lenses, Tamron was a mistake. I lost 50% in 6 months.
Got the sony a while ago for 200€ as a substitute to the laowa 9mm 2.8, it was a steal back then. Glad I snatched it. I was considering the sigma for videos but onestly OSS is far more important to me at the moment that an extra stop of light
A comparison between the Sigma and the Tamron 11-20 2.8 would be interesting.
Yeah, I'd love to see this comparison. I was looking to buy the Tamron when Sigma released this new one
I have the Tamron and am considering possibly switching.
Waiting for the same comparison here! I already own the Tamron and use it for most of my landscape photography... works great!
Seems like the newer sony 10-20mm f4 would be the better comparison
I have both and hands down, sigma wins.
@@kimjexzielgood to know thanks!
I own a 10-20 which behaves exactly as described by lenstip : super even across the focal range and the frame with max sharpness already wide open. Unless you have a bad copy, I don't believe that there is room at all for "hands down" improvement, especially when reviews report not so impressive homogeneity across the frame for the Sigma. I love my Sigma lenses (18-50 and 30) but this "hands down" statements is onvioulsy bold and I wouldn't give any confidence to the comment. That beeing said, the Sigma is way better at f/2.8, obviously.
@@pierre1509 Have you tried the sigma 10-18 though? Well I did. Try it first then come back here.
Pros: Sigma - f2.8, better in low light. Sony - Bigger focal range with 20mm, and lighter. There's your comparison :) It depends what you want really, but imo the Sigma wins any day of the week.
Stopped down, the Sony is a solid lens. It does have some limitations, but for the longest time this was your only choice in a super wide zoom on e mount.
The purple fringing is a little annoying but can be taken out in post. If buying brand new I would go for the sigma, but being I already have this lens and know how to work around its' weaknesses, it's worth keeping to me and spending my money on other lenses that expand my range. Just picked up the tamron 70-180 2.8. LOVE. Next on my list a fixed superwide. Any way great comparison review really enjoyed watching.
can you test them both on full frame?? How are they with the sony ZV-E1? thanks.
i use my sony 1018 solely on f8 because it is the peak sharpness of that lens, you should compare both at the peak sharpness state and see which one is better
Thanks for the video. How's the tamron 11-20? which lense do you prefer or choose between sigma 10-18 and tamron 11-20?
Wow I just started using Sony cameras and I love how these lenses are so compact, I was looking at the Sony 10-20mm but now this little sigma has caught my eye! Nice job
how does it compare with the newer Sony 10-20mm f4? Would the Sigma still have better image quality and color science if it was also set at f4?
I would really love to see a comparison with the Sigma 16mm in everyday usage
I was going to replace my Sony 18-135 for the Sigma 18-50 2.8; but now I'm thinking perhaps I should buy this instead to cover the 10-18 range and keep the Sony 18-135 one! Even though it's a f3.5-5.6 hmmm. Thoughts? Thanks for this great review!!!
Surely a good one: compact, quite sharp, f/2.8, and not last, the attractive price, matter. The likely choice if not having any superwide zoom in the shelf already.
But if one already owns the old Sony 10-18 4.0 OSS and a not stabilized body like the a6400, the old Sony still makes sense. Even if the Sigma brings a better optical performance, under normal circumstances and not going too far into low light or strong backlight, the picture quality of the old Sony is still quite decent.
I don't understand why Sony did not introduce the newer lens with f/2.8 instead of a f/4.0 again. The impact of a wider aperture to allow for lower ISO is critical, specially for APS-C.
Thing is, we all have different uses and priorities.
For me, I'd almost always be shooting this at f8 and above, usually on a tripod.
2.8 would push up the cost, size and weight all for something I'd rarely benefit from. If they wanted to make an f8 that was even cheaper, smaller and lighter - I'd sign up 😂
@@looktothefuture84 Sure. If You don’t need a 2,8. It is also true that the sigma is smaller and lighter than the Sony 10-18 4.0 oss… and sharper at any aperture, including 8.0 🤓
How do they compare hand held on a camera body without IBIS for both stills and video ? That' would be a more realistic comparison for most people on a trip or out and about.
sigma is killing it for APS-C. I am over in fuji land and I think the 18-50 2.8 is the best single lens of the system, if you could only have one lens.
Tamron 17-70/2.8 , why not?
@@viktorbondfilm bigger, heavier, more expensive?
@@viktorbondfilm Bigger, heavier and a brown/orange color cast on all photos which is a horror and far away from being neutral. There are lots of reviews proving this with pictures. A NoGo
18-50 is narrow range. And this is strange, because the 17-50, 16-50 range has already existed for many years for DSLR cameras.
@reinhbs6077 Yes, it is the same size as my Sony 18-105/4, which I have been successfully working with for 6 years. But Sony also has many nuances
F2.8 glass all the way. The tamron 28-75 f2.8 is outstanding!
For my landscape type shooting, the Tamron is just not wide enough.
Its remarkable how close these are in size and weight considering the Sigma is a 2.8. Great test sequences and conclusion.
The Sony works fine 13-18mm on full frame I don’t think the Sigma can do that. The OSS plus being half the price seals the deal for me. I don’t need f2.8 shooting at night in well lit city streets like Tokyo etc.
Actually the sigma can too, see Mark Bennet's camera crisis channel for a review that talks about it. Sure the oss is important if you don't already have it in the camera, but, as Arthur said, that's the only point in its favour, and if we're talking about full frame most bodies already have ibis. Finally f4 in Tokyo at night is fine in certain areas, and if it's f4 on full frame, where iso 12800 is still usable... I was in Yokohama, around its famous port, with an 2.8, and I had to go to very slow shutter speeds or crank up the iso, honestly with an f4 there, I would have just go back to my hotel
@@RiccardoGabarriniKazeatariFor a lot of people (a6400 users) the OSS is a very, very fat point in its favour. It's literally the ONLY ultrawide lens with OSS.
@@RiccardoGabarriniKazeatari Yokohama waterfront, close to the water, is not very bright until you have skyline or buildings filling most of the frame.
Sigma 10-18mm or Tamron 11-20mm F/2.8 Which is better?
Would love to see your view on the new Sigma class against the Sony 11mm 1.8
I recently got lucky and bought a used a 6500 that had a 10 to 18 Sony F4 attached for 400$ so until I get the 11mm F/1.8 the 10- 18 will hold me over.
Awesome video as always
WOW! That was an awesome deal!!!
@@guystokes454 Yep, but now I'm just trying to sell the a6500 so I can put that money to a a6700. But when you look at how much a used Sony E 10-18 F/4 cost, I pretty much got the camera for free LMAO 😁
eBay?
@assassin7250 Actually poshmark. And what's so funny I only wanted the 10-18 F4. So he was asking for 700 but shot him 400. So I really paid a lens and got the 📷 for free. And then put the body only back in poshmark and just sold it last night for 700! So made some money and got a free lens!! The buy and sell market when it comes to camera gear is a beautiful thing 😍
Fascinating! Could one use the sigma as a macro lens or is that a really different thing 🧐
Hope you liked Zermatt, one of my all-time favorite places! Good review.
I wonder how its compare to Tamron 11-20 2.8 which im using at the moment
Your channel is my favourite to view the 'ad blockers violate YT terms of service'
Thanks for doing this comparison! I requested exactly this! 🥳 But okay distortions were not compared at all. That matters a lot too.
Does sigma gets automatically corrected in camera as jpeg?
I don’t want to correct distortion and vignette on my phone if I transfer via WiFi
Edit: for Sony a6700
Hi Arthur. What you think about the non-WR specification on the Sigma? I'm tempting to buy the Tamron 11-20 just because of the WR (I'm Fuji user).
how that lense works on full frame?
You never do video on how you store your photos and videos….do u use ssd? External Hard drive? Rad? And if so which ones do u use?
Hi nice video. Would like to see a sigma 10-18 vs the Tamron 11-20 🎉
Would like to see a video comparison, handheld on a body without image stabilization.
Can you please share your jpeg settings of your sony a6000?
I was waiting for this movie... I hope it will help me to decide if i want new sigma:)
All of the new wide angles are very sharp with great features. You don't need comparisons anymore.
The Sigma lens is definitely better but as an a6400 user the lack of OSS is an instant turn off. I'll just get the Sony lens second-hand for like half the price.
on 4:30 you are comparing the sony vs the sigma, yet Every hair on the model is exactly in the same location.how did you get the 2 identical shots with different lenses ?
Was able to get the Sony used on eBay for $300 works fine for me. Will stick with it.
It is super nice comparing these two lenses. The new Sigma has a nice image quality, but in the limiti of budget, the second hand of Sony will be a great choice for me😍
Sigma 10-18 vs Tamron 11-20 please 🙏🙏
So what you're saying is that this 10 year old, 10-18mm f4 Sony lens is just as capable and good as the new sigma 10-18mm 2.8f lens for real estate photo? And possibly better with OSS for video?
I wanted to get the new Sigma 10-18mm for real estate but we always shoot f8 and higher and u said it's the same as the other, which is disappointing i feel.
Most lenses are sharpest at F8.
Please review the Laowa 8-16mm, and how does it perform when using a CPL filter, is there any vignetting from the filter?
A lens can be decentered, yes. But sometimes a lens is perfectly centered and still blurry - this is called "partial blur". I had to buy three 2470GM2 to get one which is good as promised from Sony.
Same with the 70200GM2 which I had to buy 4 times. There is no QC.
They just risk 5% of customers to return them and sell it to the next one who doen't care for it.
Will you compare Sigma 10-18mm F2.8 DC DN with Sony E PZ 10-20 mm F4 G?
Great video! Question, can you post the link to your wife's travel video using the EV10 with the Sigma 10-18 F2.8? That would be great as we are thinking of purchasing the lens for our EV10. Cheers! Tom & Suzanne
Great video! Hey Arthur can you please compare 7artisans 55mm 1.4 || with ttartisan 50mm 1.2... love from india🇮🇳♥️
My question would be how well the sigma covers full frame, the Sony only requires 3 screws to be removed then it covers full frame from 12ish-18
what about full frame
Sigma, better in almost every way
WHAT ABOUT 11-20mm TAMRON
You visited Zermatt I see :-)
Where's the vlog that your wife did? i want to see it. I don't see no links
For real estate you thing is good option change it for sigma. The Sony price is about 450€ ant the new sigma is 700€? Thx
Probably not, i dont see any difference shooting at F8 between the two.
You should have compared the sigma 10-18 to the Sony 10-20 f4. We already know how bad the 10-18 f4 OSS is.
I don't understand why you're comparing the older Sony when you've already have reviewed the new Sony lens.
it's a paid ad. This is how the manufacturer wants it not to be compared to Tamron 11-20mm or Sony 10-20. I'm wodering why?!
HI ARTHUR , DO YOU EXPERIENCE EXCESSIVE EYE STRAIN AFTER USING SONY A7IV ? MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES AND CLIENTS HAVE SAID THAT THEY EXPERIENCE A LOT OF EYE STRAIN AFTER USING OR WATCHING VIDEOS SHOT WITH CAMERAS LIKE A7IV, A7C,etc. THEY ALSO COMPLAIN ABOUT SWOLLEN AND PUFFY EYES DUE TO THE EYE STRAIN CAUSED BY THESE CAMERAS. ANY SIMILAR EXPERIENCE? CAN SONY ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM IF IT EXISTS?
Sony need to sort out their quality control, it's unacceptable to charge the prices they charge and produce sloppy goods.
The Sony 10-18 really is a brilliant lens
The difference is microcontrast. Sony has more than Sigma. You can see more depth information in Sony
if you don't like the sony 10-18 give it to me 😅
im from Egypt
Zermatt! :-)
That's shocking how much sharper the Sigma is that the Sony.
F4 lol
i love my 10_18 sigma. .
what I gathered: the sigma slaps and the sony is ass and has factory issues