Woo Phantom DAC - Why did no one do this before? (⚡Lightning Review⚡)

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  • The Woo Phantom DAC is a product with a unique form factor and a surprisingly tube like sound signature!
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    0:00 - Intro
    0:46 - Build and Design
    1:27 - Sound
    2:45 - Measurements
    3:40 - Sound (Continued)
    5:17 - Outro
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  • @G3rain1
    @G3rain1 6 місяців тому +11

    Some of the ESS DACs Ive seen have DSP sound color modes, one of which adds 2nd order harmonics, sometimes referred to as "tube mode". I bet they have that turned on by default.

    • @ResilientME
      @ResilientME 6 місяців тому

      That was my first thought too, glad to see more brands putting those features to use.

  • @RichardGroulx
    @RichardGroulx 6 місяців тому +46

    so, basically, a dongle dac on xlr cables. Nice but, if I have an amp with full size xlr inputs, I probably also have the space, desire and intent to buy a significantly better dac.

    • @jungtarcph
      @jungtarcph 6 місяців тому +3

      yeah, this makes little sense.

    • @ReverendDr.Thomas
      @ReverendDr.Thomas 6 місяців тому +2

      EXACTLY! 💯

    • @Soundoverload
      @Soundoverload 6 місяців тому

      😂😂😂

    • @Maver1ck911
      @Maver1ck911 6 місяців тому

      ​@jungtarcph just like their tube dongle... seems like the good idea fairy is skipping Beta and going straight to release.

    • @RichardGroulx
      @RichardGroulx 6 місяців тому

      Still, I can think of several use cases where adding XLR stereo outputs in this way would be quite useful but, always in a production / pro audio context...

  • @hermanvisser4034
    @hermanvisser4034 6 місяців тому +3

    Golden sound, over time I have built a tremendous respect for your opinion and especially for your comparisons. Lots of others talk a lot, but when you talk, I listen. I own a Woo Audio WA11 and it also has a warm signature.

  • @DJ_DJ
    @DJ_DJ 5 місяців тому

    This HAS been done before. My very first outboard DAC (2010-ish) was the Halide DevilSound DAC, which had this form factor - in essence a hardwired dongle with USB on one end and RCA's on the other. It was my introduction to the head-fi world, paired with a little Bellari single-tube headphone amp (I forget the model number). I still have both of those pieces lying around somewhere. Need to hook them up and hear what they sound like now!

  • @user-es3hq5zk4e
    @user-es3hq5zk4e 6 місяців тому +2

    great review as always backed by measurements,a REAL reviewer..

  • @canoozie
    @canoozie 5 місяців тому

    One thing I'd add is there's an annoying fade-in sometimes when you start sending audio to it that's noticeable in the Phantom DAC that wasn't present on any of the other DACs I have.

  • @stephens2r338
    @stephens2r338 6 місяців тому +1

    Really enjoy your reviews and respect your opinions especially on mqa although as an owner of a dcs bartok you're off my Christmas card list. It was nice to finally be able to put a face to your voice. Keep up the great work we all appreciate it

  • @PixelPipes
    @PixelPipes 6 місяців тому +5

    Really clever design. I wonder if the power consumption is within what a smartphone or tablet can handle.

  • @HiFiInsider
    @HiFiInsider 6 місяців тому +1

    good info on the product. I am using this DAC on my work desk system, keeps my desk clean and simple.

  • @thierryfaquet7405
    @thierryfaquet7405 2 місяці тому

    Because you'll hate throwing your DAC if the cables goes bad ?
    Isn't that the whole point of having a fully separated chain ?

  • @matthewham3715
    @matthewham3715 Місяць тому

    I hope no one yells at me for this, but I’m considering getting the balanced version of this to go from my PS5 to a THX AAA 789 (yes, I know it’s not “truly” balanced) powering my HD660S2s. Does this sound like a good idea or a complete waste?

    • @matthewham3715
      @matthewham3715 Місяць тому

      Nvm, I’m an idiot. I bought it and the PS5 doesn’t even recognize it. Apparently I’ll just never get balanced audio out of my PS5 😢

  • @sec21
    @sec21 6 місяців тому +1

    How do you do your blind testing?

    • @k-doggy1762
      @k-doggy1762 6 місяців тому +2

      By poking his eyes I'm guessing 😏

  • @ramlord6669
    @ramlord6669 6 місяців тому +3

    Hoping also on a Woo Audio Tube Mini review 😊

  • @alstonmaccow9386
    @alstonmaccow9386 6 місяців тому

    How much? I’m in love it

  • @klaymoon1
    @klaymoon1 6 місяців тому

    Great review! I never knew that Woo makes superb DACs. Can you please compare this to Woo’s Tube Mini DAC? Thx.

  • @matthewhilty4209
    @matthewhilty4209 6 місяців тому +1

    I have a old Mojo1 blue-tacked to the back of my TV for chrome-cast duties, I wonder if this would sound better.

  • @EricRosenfield
    @EricRosenfield 6 місяців тому

    You were at CanJam in NY recently? When was this filmed?

  • @urlugbolderdenetsogt9940
    @urlugbolderdenetsogt9940 6 місяців тому

    Looks like very interesting product. In your opinion, how is it compared to Mojo 2?

  • @imwhatsnew
    @imwhatsnew 6 місяців тому

    This is very cool... Expensive though

  • @test40323
    @test40323 6 місяців тому

    Interesting device. What is the XLR output voltage? The USB gets 5V from the computer, expected voltages for XLR is 5v, DAC will consume some so what is left?

    • @LeonidKhachaturov
      @LeonidKhachaturov 6 місяців тому +1

      XLR is 4 volts, not 5.

    • @test40323
      @test40323 6 місяців тому

      @@LeonidKhachaturov , yeah...you're right. Some are 4

  • @minus3dbintheteens60
    @minus3dbintheteens60 6 місяців тому

    Sweet looking product, and the price seems right on point, the description of the DAC makes it sound almost too perfect, hopefully it doesn't sound too grainy

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 6 місяців тому

    I like it!

  • @bobdog43
    @bobdog43 6 місяців тому +1

    As @johnmcdevitt9797 already said, the reason why "no one has ever done this before" is because... someone already has done this before. Halide Design, with their devilsound DAC. I think the form-factor's really cute. But I don't know how far you can actually push sound quality. (I haven't heard the Woo, but the Halide is "okay.")

    • @LeonidKhachaturov
      @LeonidKhachaturov 6 місяців тому

      It's been almost 15 years since the Halide came out, the sound quality of such miniature gadgets has improved dramatically since.

  • @thepedanticcreature680
    @thepedanticcreature680 6 місяців тому

    I will admit that I have been curious of the Phantom DAC for a bit because it seems like such a good pairing for Genelec 80X0 series monitors in terms of its form factor. Unsure of how a tubey presentation would mix with the Genelec house sound, though.

    • @imwhatsnew
      @imwhatsnew 6 місяців тому

      What is genelecs house sound? A focus on mid range timbre ?

    • @thepedanticcreature680
      @thepedanticcreature680 6 місяців тому

      @@imwhatsnew I would not be the person to ask for the exact details there. You do fairly consistently hear people call them 'cold' or 'harsh' (outside the Ones). While I do not completely agree there, I do feel like there is a throughline of clear note separation (in the absence of a better way to put it) based on my experiences. If they were headphones, you would say that they are quick with a fast decay. Which makes me think that it might have something to do with the reduced diffraction from their rounded shape, for example, rather than FR as such.

  • @oppje6188
    @oppje6188 Місяць тому

    apple dongle + 3.5mm to rca

  • @johnmcdevitt9797
    @johnmcdevitt9797 6 місяців тому +2

    See Halide Design, devilsound DAC v2, this design idea is not new! I would choose Woo Audio over Halide Design for a DAC like this based on personal experiences. Michael always takes the time to take care of Woo customers! P.S. Halide Design does not offer a true balance output XLR making Woo the first that I know of to offer a XLR-DAC in this form factor! Not sure if Halide Design is still operational??

    • @VeeHausen
      @VeeHausen 6 місяців тому +1

      I own both, the Devilsound and DAC HD. Love em to bits!

  • @ReverendDr.Thomas
    @ReverendDr.Thomas 6 місяців тому +1

    I can't imagine Woo selling these in great quantities. 😢

  • @Alex-tc6jg
    @Alex-tc6jg 6 місяців тому +1

    I just can’t see why they would go for USB A instead of C surely that would make more sense? 🤨

  • @kurt120032002
    @kurt120032002 6 місяців тому +2

    why nobody did it? because it is DUMB. You got an usb-c to usb A from any android phone, get a BTR3, 5 or 7, and get whatever 2.5, 3.5 or 4.4-xlr cable you desire. Cheaper and upgradeable.

  • @CraciunAlexandruGh
    @CraciunAlexandruGh 6 місяців тому +1

    That usb is way too fat though. On a laptop it will block neighbouring ports.

  • @MikeDawson1
    @MikeDawson1 6 місяців тому +1

    I heard it at CanJam Dallas, and was not really a fan of the sound

  • @cwoodward6614
    @cwoodward6614 5 місяців тому

    ✋ Promo>SM

  • @johnratcliffe6438
    @johnratcliffe6438 6 місяців тому +1

    A lack of soundstage depth has been a common failure of every ESS DAC I have ever heard. Up to the Weiss 501 MkII I tried to get to you for review.
    This, however, does look interesting...
    I hope you're well. Thanks for the upload.

  • @luigismilazzo
    @luigismilazzo 6 місяців тому

    Pleeeeease

  • @susokraut3169
    @susokraut3169 5 місяців тому

    This DAC has a fixed soundstage depth, haha, more audiophoolery is hardly possible.

  • @calebgebhard7863
    @calebgebhard7863 6 місяців тому +2

    Sonnect is a pro audio company that recently announced a product very similar to this but usb c and overall more rugged build quality. IMO dacs are dacs and once you spend more than 100$ you can’t tell a difference between them.

    • @V1ralB1ack
      @V1ralB1ack 6 місяців тому +3

      well your opinion is wrong but you're lucky if you can't tell. the rest of us can and it's why this market exists

  • @TOM7952
    @TOM7952 6 місяців тому +3

    They're charging $400 to attach a dongle DAC to a cable. Dumb design and huge ripoff.

  • @anupambphoto
    @anupambphoto 6 місяців тому

    "recently" kek.

  • @ThermalWorld_
    @ThermalWorld_ 6 місяців тому

    500€ for usb DAC, it's a shame 😅
    And with shitty tube sound too 😅

  • @humm6155
    @humm6155 6 місяців тому +2

    Another audio gear nobody need it.
    Great.
    Everyday new dac, new iem... I cantvmemorize the names anymore.