Personally I think MCU Spider-Man would be 10x better if Oscorp and Norman were in the MCU from the beginning. I feel like out of the three live action Spideys, the MCU has the most potential to play with that storyline
@@frankorious534The crazy part is by bringing them into the MCU, they WOULD be different, Sony can only handle Spider-Man related characters, Marvel Studios could have them deal with the greater MCU as a plus.
Fun fact: They were originally planning to put Oscorp tower from the Amazing Spider Man into the skyline of Avengers 2012, but by the time Sony agreed, the visual effects were already too close to completion
I don't think the Spiderverse story would make much sense, especially AFTER the multiverse saga ends, but I do like the idea of adapting the Superior Spider Man story in the MCU, as well as the clone saga
Yeah that and miles being “spin.” Is what I strongly disagreed with. The multiverse would’ve been done to death at that point and we already had no way home and the spider verse series which connects to the MCU a bit. And with miles I feel like they should just call him Spider-Man since it’s not like two characters haven’t shared the same title in the MCU before.
I think we’ve got enough Spider-Verse movies. Spider-Man has so much potential for movies we don’t need to see the same story rehashed. I’ve never liked the Spider-Verse as a concept.
Peter beating Fisk to death would be the stupidest thing ever. Literally the LAST MOVIE had that exact same problem and solution. Tom learned from Toby
Right so this trilogy is all about breaking him down before building him back up. I would add, like I did in another comment, that Peter killing Fisk was more so him simply beating on him for a bit too long and overestimating his strength.
To be honest, your scripts are interesting, but too overloaded, which is why the films will run for at least three hours or some storylines will not be properly disclosed
If there is a Molecule Man, or whatever the MCU equivalent will be, Peter should bring him a burger and then the character thanks him by allowing people to remember him.
This video is amazing. Though I think realistically, since like you said, Tom Holland probably won't want to stick to the role for that long, I think Peter would die (no superior Spider-Man) in his sixth movie. though here's what i would change or add in devil's reign, kang dynasty, secret wars, and kraven's last hunt: Devil's Reign: -with the movie releasing and taking place four years after No Way Home, it would be acknowledged that Peter, taking advantage of his lack of a social life, had taken two years off from his education to be Spider-Man full time while also taking pictures to make a living. -While Spider-Man and Black Cat's relationship will be initially be lust-based rather than romance-based, they will grow to genuinely like each other over the coarse of the movie, even revealing their identities to each other as a form of trust, with a twist that they are classmates. however, negative tension will rise between them near the end as Peter looks through Felicia's family photos and realizes that (like in Spectacular Spider-Man) her father was the man who killed Uncle Ben, and that conflict will continue into Kang Dynasty. -throughout the movie, the symbiote grows larger and follows Peter back to his apartment. the symbiote would envelope him in the final scene before the credits and the mid-credit scene is where the black suit would debut Kang Dynasty: -Reunites with Toby and Andrew, and meets Venom for the first time, though tension grows between him and those three for different reasons: Venom: he's wearing a piece of him Toby: he tries to warn Peter 1 about the dangers of wearing the black suit based off his own experience in Spider-Man 3 Andrew: he's become exactly like him when Gwen Died, despite him saying he doesn't want that to happen to him. Secret Wars: -it's here where the symbiote would start affecting his behavior -the earth of Sony's Spider-Man universe is destroyed but is merged with the MCU (as its rumoured to do so) -adding to that, Venom, Morbius, Kraven, and Madame Web, and their supporting cast now exist in the MCU's continuity (like the X-men) Kraven's last hunt: -Eddie Brock would not be a new character and instead would be Tom Hardy's version (who in the old MCU timeline never became Venom, and has a history with the Parker family), who would aid Peter and the Fantastic Four against the Venomised Kraven. Reed Richards purifies the separated symbiote, reducing back to a small piece, and when it re-attaches to Eddie, it finally adds the white spider logo to his Venom design thanks to its time being bonded to Spider-Man.
The problem is that a lot of actors don’t want too stick it out that long to create something like that. I understand on some level wanting to expand your career and do different roles, it also seems that their contracts preclude them from having a lot of freedom when it comes too choosing other roles. The sad part is that realistically I think Tom is about done in the MCU, I fully believe that we will get one more trilogy and maybe even a trilogy of avengers/team up movies that feature him but I’m sure after that his spider-man will be killed/retired. Interestingly enough I would be excited to see miles in the MCU especially because we already have great casting for Uncle Aaron. Unfortunately Sony has announced that they are working on a Miles Morales live action movie that will take place in the SSU, which like, why? They already produce the spider-verse films, let miles into the MCU!
Crushed it with this man. Good work. There are a few tweaks I’d make but I love most of this. Symbiote in Secret Wars part 1 has to happen. Reed helping also needs to happen. Really want kravens last hunt. We need camera’s rolling for what I’m calling Spectacular Spider-Man by spring 2024
I love a lot of these ideas, but I disagree with a couple of them; - Peter killing someone is not only out of character but would regress his character development after he didn't kill Norman at the end of NWH. You could instead have Peter hold himself back just before finishing Kingpin off, showing that despite his issues, he has gained that control after the events of the last film. - Having Kraven AND Venom in one movie feels like a waste of both characters IMO; I think having the symbiote bond to Mac Gargan at the end of the fifth movie is a better choice, since he'd want revenge after his defeat as Scorpion and there's more source material to adapt that way, including Venom (Flash Thompson or Gargan) possibly joining the Thunderbolts in the MCU (I'd make him a member of the Sinister Six in the 6th movie first).
Regressing his character before bringing him back up by the end of the trilogy is the entire point, it's the darkness he needs to contend with before regaining his light. I wouldn't even call it a full regression either, in NWH it seemed like he had every intention of killing Osborn but was stopped by Tobey Peter. I would add that Peter didn't have the intention of killing Fisk but overestimated how strong or resilient he was and simply beat on him for a bit too long. As for wasting Kraven, I put him in the Sinister Six, giving him an immediate second appearance where he's able to act more like Kraven from the comics, without the symbiote. As for wasting Venom, I think Marvel has gone past the point of the Eddie Brock version of Venom being a villain at all. leaving the possibility of Venom as the main villain as an empty template to fill in which they've done with the likes of Harry Osborn, Scorpion, Kraven etc. I personally really liked what they did in Spider-Man: Life Story and decided to partially adapt that. Scorpion could've worked as well but then there wouldn't have been a movie where Kraven is the main villain and i definitely think Kraven deserves higher main villain priority over Scorpion.
@@TheBlackLion001Eddie is one of my favourite characters ever. He’s what built Venom up. It’s sad to see such a compelling character discarded and forgotten.
I also liked the idea of the movie starting with a brief creation of Rhino cutting to him rampaging through New York with Spidey trying his hardest to stop him as the first big spectacle of the movie. Then after finally taking him down and putting him away. Peters trying to attend college, Felicia and Gwen maybe Harry if they wanna do that could be there, because of all the damage rhino cause this spurs Jonah to fund his own superhero which turns out to be Scorpion, maybe Pete meets Black Cat for the first Time and they have a chase like usually and the thread that connects all the villains would be someone like Tombstone trying to control parts of the city without having anything tied to him, which can lead to other movies where Tombstone and Kingpin (maybe Hammerhead and the Maggia family as well) get into a gang war where Peter, Matt, Echo and others work together to deal with it before it explodes. Just thoughts though
I'm a HUGE fan of what you're doing. Your Multiverse Saga and what you're doing with Spider-Man is BILLIONS OF LIGHTYEARS ahead of whatever the hell Marvel is doing. I am a person that is pro "Endgame was the true end to the MCU", but if it were to continue, this is how I would have it! Thank you for being awesome. Please do this for DC as well!
So you want the MCU to just stop? Even if the recent stuff they put on was bad, they can still recover from it by just moving forward and making the worst parts less relevant.
enough with the multiverse, all the new marvel and dc movies have the multiverse concept in it. i am so fucking tired of the multiverse, marvel needs to stop
@@toraregisfurryBro the multiverse is the reason we have no way home it is the reason Deadpool will be in the MCU yes this saga has some flaws but it does have equally good bangers like gotg 3 No Way Home and LOKI
They NEED to let Peter have the symbiote for a decent chunk of time, not for just a plot point, but for a multi-film character arch. In one film, punish his greatest personal challenges to beat him down to his lowest point, maybe even adapt Spider-Man No More a tiny bit, THEN give him the symbiote as an out. Suddenly he has his confidence back and even more, and make him addicted to the feeling of that strength. Throw him through a normal plot where the symbiote is mostly inconsequential, then towards the end (maybe in the climax) he acts far more aggressively, violently, etc., then he realizes that not only is the suit alive and controlling his body while he's asleep, but it's also changing him into a monstrous version of himself and what he stands for. He rids himself of it in the finale, and returns to those he may have pushed away. Meanwhile, Brock, someone he discredited while having the suit, finds himself at his wits end and combines with the symbiote. Like, adapt the best parts of the symbiote storyline WHILE actually giving spider-man time to use the symbiote past the point of no return where he HAS to rid himself of it and reconcile with those he's hurt. I do think, though, that retconning anything in the previous films for Peter would undercut their impact. I think the simplest way forward would just be to adapt the Spider-man of the Romita Sr. era where he goes to college, meets Harry, Gwen, new villains, etc.
What I noticed in a lot of prewrites for Spider-Man is that they never involve Mysterio. The one that got shot by the drone in Far from Home was an illusion and Peter only asked Edith if he was real, not if he was dead. If Beck was faking his death by himself (for some reason Beck collapsed after Peter took Edith back) it'd make that smirk at the end of his partings words of "people, they need to believe. And nowadays, they'll believe anything" more amusement about Peter was taken in, especially after Peter claimed he "can't trick me anymore" If he actually died his body would've been discovered without the Mysterio armor. Likely his crew could've spread the false info that Mysterio's corpse returned to his home dimension upon his death to explain why it was missing.
Love the Superior Spider-Man idea. That's such a good and unique storyline which would separate this version of the character in a really brilliant way.
This is absolutely perfect, you need to make vids like this for the X-men, Fantastic 4, Avengers, Wolverine, Hulk, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, etc.
Would you try to make it so that Peter gets his own green goblin that kills his Gwen. This would connect to across the spiderverse in terms of it being cannon event. Also showing him spare goblin will highlight how much more human he as become after the college trilogy.
Green Goblin killing Gwen has been done on screen already, it's be too predictable and derivative to do it again. From my perspective, the Canon event is Goblin killing someone close to Spidey, not necessarily Gwen. So, Aunt May's death could be considered the MCU version of that canon event.
I think it will be revealed that canon events don’t need to happen in Beyond the Spiderverse, it will be something else causing the universal incursions. With this in mind, killing off Gwen doesn’t need to happen.
@@ccelite3782 Yeah, I am willing to bet that if there is a cameo from Andrew or Tom, they would be told they are at fault for ruining their canon event, but stopped their earth from collapsing anyways.
This is simply impeccable. I really like how this all fits together. Might I ask as to whether Rhino could appear at some point, like as an opening fight scene in one of these films?
Yes that can happen. Make it the official opening to Spider-Man: Devil's Reign. Rhino's origin is tied to Scorpion and Prowler as he got his suit from and works for Kingpin.
It would be sick is in Spiderman 7 instead of peter and otto swapping at the end, otto hears peter in his head the whole time begging to let him back in and only when harry is about to die (show otto despite trying is not a better spiderman than peter) decided to give that control back to peter for him to save harry in a final sacrifice kind of way. that way we can get a good peter quip to goblin (probably about him looking different than the NWH goblin) and we get the iconic "its really you", "the one and only" line when peter returns.
I think Jason Macendale should be a replacement for Doc Ock. While I love Alfred Molina, it’s going to be hard to make a Doc Ock that compares to Raimi’s and Insomniac’s takes. Hobgoblin was a leader of the Sinister Six in the comics, who could later be succeeded as leader by Aaron Davis. But I didn’t expect you to do the Superior Spider-Man so that’s pretty cool! I also liked the incorporation of Ultimate Goblin! I just like Demogoblin and we need a Hobgoblin saga before that.
Magnificent, this is most definitive take on a Spider-Man film series I've ever seen. Admittedly continuing past the Mutant Saga with a movie involving Knull as the main antagonist and a Spider-Geddon adaption is a bit far, but not entirely unwelcome since I would like to see how those would go.
Here's what my spider-man saga would like -Spider-man freshman year 2017 origin movie replacing tasm with shocker and vulture would be main villains his outfits would be the ultimate spider-man wrestling outfit and the mcu homade suit at the end of the movie before the final swing he makes the classic ditko suit Gwen and Harry would be childhood friends like in spectacular and liz allen would be the main love interest for the first trilogy peter and flash going from rivals to friends would also be a big focus of the trilogy Captain stacy becomes peter's ally at the end of the movie The end credit scene would be nick fury trying to recruit him for the avengers and telling him he's an old friend of his parents - team up movies cap and tony would both mentor him but it would mainly be in the avengers movies not the solo movies and his role in civil war would be much -mcu spider-man 2 201 vulture would be the main villain movie would start out with peter stopping random crimes a few being villains before they're villains sandman rhino and scorpion The main villain of this one would be mysterio -Mcu spider-man 3 2021 scorpion and kraven would be the villains of this one captain stacy would die and ask peter to look after his little girl liz and peter break up Gwen is dating harry so he has no date for prom but then aunt may introduces him to mj the movie would end with peter and Harry moving into a college dorm room and meeting randy Robertson Mcu spider-man 4 2023 would be based on spider-man no more Organized crime would be a bug focus in this trilogy with kingpin hammerhead and tombstone would be a big focus in this trilogy Dr connors would be his college professor Kingpin puts a bounty on spider-man's head and notman creates electro sandman and rhino to go after him but doctor octopus would be the main villain Peter reunites with a childhood friend at college eddie brock constantly late to his big group hangouts with harry Gwen mj flash and eddie and due to the stress of everything going on he eventually quits he returns gwen finds out he's spider-man and they start dating and harry starts dating mj -mcu spider-man 5 2025 lizard would be the main villain tasm really failed to adapt his family life and peter reuniting them so that'd definitely be something they should do The post credit scene would be norman finally becoming the goblin -mcu spider-man 6 2027 this would be the big one the sinister six doctor octopus vulture mysterio sandman electro and kraven who all have upgraded suits and have green goblin as the mastermind behind it all peter gets his ass beat but he beats them but then goblin reveals himself they fight and the tragic death of Gwen stacy happens peter beats the shit of Norman before he of course impales himself This trilogy ends with peter moving into a shitty apartment alone -Mcu spider-man 7 2029 peter is depressed harry has become a drug addict his friendship with peter is strained mj also breaks up with him but he starts dating liz allen The symbiote attaches to peter at first it just looks like a black and white version of the normal suit but then it evolves into the classic symbiote suit all of peter's anger and frustrations after Gwen's death explode and black cat becomes a love interest a further temptation to the Darkside He lashes out at harry and eddie permanently pushing them away He also lashes out at mj but she closes the door and stays with him -mcu spider-man 8 2031 the symbiote has really affected peter he looks like a drug addict sunken tired eyes pale with a stubble Black cat breaks up with him because he's a brutal jerk Mj reveals she knows he's spider-man peter gets rid of the black suit eddie becomes venom peter defeats him and he starts dating mj The post credit scenes would be eddie meeting his new cellmate cletus Cassidy setting up a venom spinoff and the second one would be be harry becoming the new goblin -spider-man 9 2033 would obviously be the new goblin story harry blows up peter's apartment takes mj to the bridge where Gwen dies but peter saves her Of course eventually harry redeems himself saving mj peter and his son This trilogy ends with peter and mj moving in a decent appartement together -Mcu spider-man 10 2035 i don't really know who the villains of this trilogy would be but mr negative is one of them and tombstone is now in charge of the criminal underworld one of them mj and peter get married at the the end of the movie and peter becomes a teacher -mcu spider-man 11 2037 would really focus on his married life and him helping out students -mcu spider-man 12 2039 notman gets ressurected as a giant monster aunt may dies in this one peter and mj move into her house in queens Peter meets a 10 year old new student named miles moeales just entering middle school -spider-man miles morales trilogy 2041-2045 peter is 38 now miles is 12 gets spider powers peters immediately figures it out by the way he's acting peter becomes his mentor and him and mj are expecting mayday parker hat'd be a big focus off this trilogy At the end of the trilogy peter retires from being spider-man mayday is 5 years old peter is 43 and now him and mj are expecting another kid benji Parker Miles would get his own saga Then eventually I'd do movies on mayday with miles becoming the mentor And a spider-man 2099 franchise
First movie and you already have Peter kill somebody. This is the second concept I see of a new Spider-Man trilogy where he kills somebody. Why is everyone so horny for Peter killing people? ESPECIALLY AFTER NO WAY HOME? Are we just gonna have him re-learn the same lesson over and over again, like the previous trilogy?
how would you handle a Spider-Man cinematic universe with only Spider-Man/new york characters (daredevil luke cage Jessica Jones punisher and iron fist)
I like the overall idea, but I'm not a fan of calling Miles "Spin" until the last Peter Parker movie. Miles is just as much Spiderman as Peter is, and I think a good argument can be made that if you're introducing 99 other Spidermen into the second to last movie, leaving Miles out by calling him "Spin" is an insult. Not to mention the fact that Peter would already be calling Miles Spiderman, because that is who Peter is. Anyone can be Spiderman, and Miles embodies that idea more than most. I get that this is supposed to be Miles "earning the mantel" but he already does so by embracing the Spiderman mantra, which you have the character doing over the course of like 5 years and 6 appearances; by the last spidey movie, he's been in several large event films and Spiderman adventures. No way he hasn't "earned" the title by the end of movie one.
I just don't think the MCU is as receptive to the idea of multiple characters sharing a name, the only examples I can think of are the two Hawkeyes but even then one of them is mostly retired and Thor but then one of them was swiftly killed off. I do however agree that Miles being called Spin for four movies is a bit much so I would add that a part of "The Superior Spider-Man" is Miles proving himself in Peter's absence and as a part of Otto's moral compass and from then on out being known as Spider-Man.
I'd prefer to leave out MJ and Ned, to really sell the effects and consequences of NWH. It'd be interesting to see a different love interest that isn't 1 of the Big 3, maybe one of the less well-known ones: Carlie Cooper, Sophia sanduval, etc
I'll be honest, I've never liked any of Peter's love interests aside from MJ, Gwen, Black Cat and maybe Silk so I never really considered including them. I think they should leave MJ and Ned out of Spider-Man 4 and most of Spider-Man 5 but I don't think those particular effects of NWH should last forever.
For Devil's reign, having Kate Bishops Hawkeye makes it quite the bit better, for sure if Peter kills someone afterwords - Hawkeye having dealt with his Ronin jazz, the next avengers movie could have Clint Barton talk to Peter.
MCU Spiderman activated instant kill mode in Endgame. I get that those weren’t “human” enemies but still. Acting like he’s totally innocent when it comes to murder in No Way Home felt like a retcon
I just feel like the MCU blocked themselves from doing the Doc Oc story. One of the main tragedies about Peter and Otto's relationship is that they were so close, and that Peter did not save him in time. Knowing Oc's story and how to save him theres no way Spider-man would have that happen again. I do think it is a possibility for him to befriend Harry, and have him become the Green Goblin. Maybe he doesn't know harry's last name until later, and because he is still grieving May he continuously pushes harry away or somehow accidentally causes him to become Green Goblin instead of his father.
My idea for Spider-Man 6: Do not use Doc Ock. The Sinister Six can have a new leader and the plot can be pretty much the same as you suggested. The Mad scientist role could be given to the Jackal. All these spider bites inflected on himself could turn him into the creature that e know from the comics.
I don't really like the whole introduction of Uncle Ben in your movies. It's made very clear in No Way Home that Uncle Ben doesn't exist in our the main MCU universe, is supposed to be replaced by Aunt May. I also doubt trying to make the audience feel bad about Peter's guilt of his death won't work because he wasn't introduced in any past movies and up until now we all assumed that he didn't exist.
There is no way the MCU will still be going in 20 years time, especially with the same characters/actors. I am a nerd and have a massive hard on for multiverse shenanigans and tie-ins but this gets a bit too much to follow even for me. The general audience will completely tire of Spiderman and other MCU properties by 2030. I could see a mutant saga generating some interest especially with Deadpool and this new Wolverine joining but we've already seen these characters for a long time now too. Not to mention, the actors aren't getting any younger, and new characters aren't gaining any traction. Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman, Chris Hemsworth etc. are not going to be able to play their characters forever and they are typecast; once they retire those characters will never appear on the big screen again. This even applies to Tom Holland - Will he really want to play Spiderman in his 30s? I know Maguire and Garfield came back to play their Spidermen but that was a one time thing and it was a love letter to their series'. It doesn't help that Phase Four has been overwhelmingly poor with only a few select titles hitting. The majority if it isn't going anywhere and I can't see the ageing actors hanging onto physically demanding and exhausting roles for much longer if they aren't generating box office hits. If you ask me the MCU is on it's way out and the grand finale of the Multiverse Saga that absolutely no one seems to even care about in the first place is going to be the last major MCU release.
People need to be okay with actor recasting if they want a super long saga like this. Comic fans are NOTORIOUS known for hating recasting and an actor might not want to do a long 20 year saga even if the story is immaculate. If a another person is cast and nothing changes story wise, arc wish but the actor, i feel that's the only way for longevity of a story. Other wise 3 movies and 7 years later, were restarting the story over AGAIN because fans didn't want actor B to take over actor A's spot
dumb for two characters to operate same area and time with the same name inb4 someone blindly uses insom as an example of it working when it didn't work
If this was real it’d be weird for me to think that after first seeing MCU Peter when I was 9 years old, by the time he’d be done, I’d be 29 and coming up on 30
The next trilogy in reality NEEDS to drop mj and Ned for now. It should be Gwen and Harry, the symbiote trilogy and green goblin as the main villain, the symbiote should be done infinitely better then the garbage venom movies. Peter should think that green goblin is Norman but finds out it's actually Harry. Harry should k!ll Gwen in the second movie after Peter gave up the symbiote, then he puts it on again in the last one and loses control and realizes he can't keep it. Something like that. Then in the next bunch we can have a good venom, an evil venom and see Cameron monaghan as carnage like we deserve :)
I don’t really agree with this take on Venom. I don’t really care who’s wearing the suit so I don’t mind that it’s Kraven but what I do care about is who Venom is. There are two main traits that make Venom such a terrifying villain. His hatred for Spider-Man and the fact that he knows his secret identity. His entire motivation is build on the foundation of his absolute undying hatred for Peter Parker. The fact that he knows his secret means he can be anywhere at anytime to try and kill Peter. Combine that with how he’s immune to spider sense then you have a villain who can be anywhere at anytime and Peter wouldn’t know. Making him just some big cgi monster takes away the core foundation of what makes Venom Venom.
I feel like Eddie Brock or Harry Osborn needs to be placed into the muc to take the more beastly look of venom but still be an anti hero then introduce Martin li and make flash agent anti venom
Something that I loved about Hawkeye was Kate, Bishop, and I want more of her Black Lion would the Peter Parker clone who could be Tom Holland Peter’s brother be played by Tom Holland’s real life younger brother?
dawg, he doesn’t have an uncle ben, he’s never mentioned, never seen in any pictures, and we saw may giving pete the great power line in no way home and it was played has that was the first time he heard it. also realistically with how young may seems to be it’s totally possible she has never been married and raised pete as a single woman. either have his subconscious be may and/or tony. cause realistically tony and/or may was his motivation, we know that he’s always loved and and looked up to iron man/tony and that his aunt may always taught him good values. so realistically for this spider-man, he probably got his powers on a school trip similar to tobey, then maybe tried to use them for money a little, and one night he witnessed a lady being robbed or something and he decided to step in and he used his powers to help, and later that night he sees some broadcast of tony or something about the avengers and it’s talking about heroism and then that inspires tom to become spidey. 9:05
What if Ned becomes the Green goblet in the MCU but it won’t be called the green golden he will become the hob goblin which will be the MCU‘s counterpart of the green goblin and spider-Man knows he hast to fight his best friend
I think the last Spider-Man movie should be spider island mixed with clone saga Also it’s revealed that Peter has his powers but let’s others take up his responsibilities
Tom Holland pretty much doesn't want to do Spider-Man movies anymore, as he's now been in six MCU movies. It's also very stressful on his body. I'd rather them do other characters if I'm being honest.
i don't think peter would kill someone tbh, i feel that kind of dampens his effort to spare norman in NWH. but i do get that not everything is black and white with characters and that they can get worse before they get better
They are bringing back Daredevil and Karen and Foggy aren't coming back. I do however 100 disagree with this take, both Karen and Foggy are big parts of what made Daredevil so great.
Man I could not disagree more with half your points. No doc ock. Recon mj as Mary Jane? Bring up Peter’s uncle Ben moment (bro did you not watch no way home, we saw his uncle Ben moment)
Personally I think MCU Spider-Man would be 10x better if Oscorp and Norman were in the MCU from the beginning. I feel like out of the three live action Spideys, the MCU has the most potential to play with that storyline
i guess he should of been but since tony stark wasn’t his mentor and he was a avenger idk if that would work well
Keep in mind Feige doesn't like to repeat storylines and it would have been boring to have them for the third time in a row.
@@frankorious534The crazy part is by bringing them into the MCU, they WOULD be different, Sony can only handle Spider-Man related characters, Marvel Studios could have them deal with the greater MCU as a plus.
@@frankorious534well unfortunately feige can’t avoid comic history forever, these stories will be told & retold till the end of time.
Fun fact: They were originally planning to put Oscorp tower from the Amazing Spider Man into the skyline of Avengers 2012, but by the time Sony agreed, the visual effects were already too close to completion
if they even do a 10+ year saga i'll be satisfied with that tbh. 20 years would be a dream come true.
I don't think the Spiderverse story would make much sense, especially AFTER the multiverse saga ends, but I do like the idea of adapting the Superior Spider Man story in the MCU, as well as the clone saga
Agree. Makes little sense to do spiderverse after thr multiverse saga and after no way home basically being a mini spiderverse event
Yeah that and miles being “spin.” Is what I strongly disagreed with. The multiverse would’ve been done to death at that point and we already had no way home and the spider verse series which connects to the MCU a bit. And with miles I feel like they should just call him Spider-Man since it’s not like two characters haven’t shared the same title in the MCU before.
I think we’ve got enough Spider-Verse movies. Spider-Man has so much potential for movies we don’t need to see the same story rehashed. I’ve never liked the Spider-Verse as a concept.
Peter beating Fisk to death would be the stupidest thing ever. Literally the LAST MOVIE had that exact same problem and solution. Tom learned from Toby
Right so this trilogy is all about breaking him down before building him back up. I would add, like I did in another comment, that Peter killing Fisk was more so him simply beating on him for a bit too long and overestimating his strength.
@@TheBlackLion001like invincible?
To be honest, your scripts are interesting, but too overloaded, which is why the films will run for at least three hours or some storylines will not be properly disclosed
yeahh, everything’s all over the place trying to fit in as much characters as possible.
@chichou7 As if everything can only be in one movie and it can't be shown in other projects
You lost me at Spidey killing Fisk lol
If there is a Molecule Man, or whatever the MCU equivalent will be, Peter should bring him a burger and then the character thanks him by allowing people to remember him.
I have a feeling the MCU equivalent will be Scarlet Witch
This video is amazing. Though I think realistically, since like you said, Tom Holland probably won't want to stick to the role for that long, I think Peter would die (no superior Spider-Man) in his sixth movie.
though here's what i would change or add in devil's reign, kang dynasty, secret wars, and kraven's last hunt:
Devil's Reign:
-with the movie releasing and taking place four years after No Way Home, it would be acknowledged that Peter, taking advantage of his lack of a social life, had taken two years off from his education to be Spider-Man full time while also taking pictures to make a living.
-While Spider-Man and Black Cat's relationship will be initially be lust-based rather than romance-based, they will grow to genuinely like each other over the coarse of the movie, even revealing their identities to each other as a form of trust, with a twist that they are classmates. however, negative tension will rise between them near the end as Peter looks through Felicia's family photos and realizes that (like in Spectacular Spider-Man) her father was the man who killed Uncle Ben, and that conflict will continue into Kang Dynasty.
-throughout the movie, the symbiote grows larger and follows Peter back to his apartment. the symbiote would envelope him in the final scene before the credits and the mid-credit scene is where the black suit would debut
Kang Dynasty:
-Reunites with Toby and Andrew, and meets Venom for the first time, though tension grows between him and those three for different reasons:
Venom: he's wearing a piece of him
Toby: he tries to warn Peter 1 about the dangers of wearing the black suit based off his own experience in Spider-Man 3
Andrew: he's become exactly like him when Gwen Died, despite him saying he doesn't want that to happen to him.
Secret Wars:
-it's here where the symbiote would start affecting his behavior
-the earth of Sony's Spider-Man universe is destroyed but is merged with the MCU (as its rumoured to do so)
-adding to that, Venom, Morbius, Kraven, and Madame Web, and their supporting cast now exist in the MCU's continuity (like the X-men)
Kraven's last hunt:
-Eddie Brock would not be a new character and instead would be Tom Hardy's version (who in the old MCU timeline never became Venom, and has a history with the Parker family), who would aid Peter and the Fantastic Four against the Venomised Kraven. Reed Richards purifies the separated symbiote, reducing back to a small piece, and when it re-attaches to Eddie, it finally adds the white spider logo to his Venom design thanks to its time being bonded to Spider-Man.
The problem is that a lot of actors don’t want too stick it out that long to create something like that. I understand on some level wanting to expand your career and do different roles, it also seems that their contracts preclude them from having a lot of freedom when it comes too choosing other roles. The sad part is that realistically I think Tom is about done in the MCU, I fully believe that we will get one more trilogy and maybe even a trilogy of avengers/team up movies that feature him but I’m sure after that his spider-man will be killed/retired. Interestingly enough I would be excited to see miles in the MCU especially because we already have great casting for Uncle Aaron. Unfortunately Sony has announced that they are working on a Miles Morales live action movie that will take place in the SSU, which like, why? They already produce the spider-verse films, let miles into the MCU!
Crushed it with this man. Good work. There are a few tweaks I’d make but I love most of this.
Symbiote in Secret Wars part 1 has to happen. Reed helping also needs to happen. Really want kravens last hunt.
We need camera’s rolling for what I’m calling Spectacular Spider-Man by spring 2024
I love a lot of these ideas, but I disagree with a couple of them;
- Peter killing someone is not only out of character but would regress his character development after he didn't kill Norman at the end of NWH. You could instead have Peter hold himself back just before finishing Kingpin off, showing that despite his issues, he has gained that control after the events of the last film.
- Having Kraven AND Venom in one movie feels like a waste of both characters IMO; I think having the symbiote bond to Mac Gargan at the end of the fifth movie is a better choice, since he'd want revenge after his defeat as Scorpion and there's more source material to adapt that way, including Venom (Flash Thompson or Gargan) possibly joining the Thunderbolts in the MCU (I'd make him a member of the Sinister Six in the 6th movie first).
Regressing his character before bringing him back up by the end of the trilogy is the entire point, it's the darkness he needs to contend with before regaining his light. I wouldn't even call it a full regression either, in NWH it seemed like he had every intention of killing Osborn but was stopped by Tobey Peter. I would add that Peter didn't have the intention of killing Fisk but overestimated how strong or resilient he was and simply beat on him for a bit too long.
As for wasting Kraven, I put him in the Sinister Six, giving him an immediate second appearance where he's able to act more like Kraven from the comics, without the symbiote. As for wasting Venom, I think Marvel has gone past the point of the Eddie Brock version of Venom being a villain at all. leaving the possibility of Venom as the main villain as an empty template to fill in which they've done with the likes of Harry Osborn, Scorpion, Kraven etc. I personally really liked what they did in Spider-Man: Life Story and decided to partially adapt that. Scorpion could've worked as well but then there wouldn't have been a movie where Kraven is the main villain and i definitely think Kraven deserves higher main villain priority over Scorpion.
@@TheBlackLion001Eddie is one of my favourite characters ever. He’s what built Venom up. It’s sad to see such a compelling character discarded and forgotten.
How would you rewrite Spider-Man Sony Cinema universe
I also liked the idea of the movie starting with a brief creation of Rhino cutting to him rampaging through New York with Spidey trying his hardest to stop him as the first big spectacle of the movie. Then after finally taking him down and putting him away. Peters trying to attend college, Felicia and Gwen maybe Harry if they wanna do that could be there, because of all the damage rhino cause this spurs Jonah to fund his own superhero which turns out to be Scorpion, maybe Pete meets Black Cat for the first Time and they have a chase like usually and the thread that connects all the villains would be someone like Tombstone trying to control parts of the city without having anything tied to him, which can lead to other movies where Tombstone and Kingpin (maybe Hammerhead and the Maggia family as well) get into a gang war where Peter, Matt, Echo and others work together to deal with it before it explodes. Just thoughts though
I would be interested to see your version of the MCU Mutant Saga.
I'm a HUGE fan of what you're doing. Your Multiverse Saga and what you're doing with Spider-Man is BILLIONS OF LIGHTYEARS ahead of whatever the hell Marvel is doing. I am a person that is pro "Endgame was the true end to the MCU", but if it were to continue, this is how I would have it! Thank you for being awesome. Please do this for DC as well!
So you want the MCU to just stop? Even if the recent stuff they put on was bad, they can still recover from it by just moving forward and making the worst parts less relevant.
However there are some flaws with his Multiverse Saga, but it is still way better than what Kevin Fuck is doing with The Multiverse Saga.
Far From Home was the true end to The MCU, not Endgame.
enough with the multiverse, all the new marvel and dc movies have the multiverse concept in it. i am so fucking tired of the multiverse, marvel needs to stop
@@toraregisfurryBro the multiverse is the reason we have no way home it is the reason Deadpool will be in the MCU yes this saga has some flaws but it does have equally good bangers like gotg 3 No Way Home and LOKI
They NEED to let Peter have the symbiote for a decent chunk of time, not for just a plot point, but for a multi-film character arch.
In one film, punish his greatest personal challenges to beat him down to his lowest point, maybe even adapt Spider-Man No More a tiny bit, THEN give him the symbiote as an out. Suddenly he has his confidence back and even more, and make him addicted to the feeling of that strength. Throw him through a normal plot where the symbiote is mostly inconsequential, then towards the end (maybe in the climax) he acts far more aggressively, violently, etc., then he realizes that not only is the suit alive and controlling his body while he's asleep, but it's also changing him into a monstrous version of himself and what he stands for. He rids himself of it in the finale, and returns to those he may have pushed away. Meanwhile, Brock, someone he discredited while having the suit, finds himself at his wits end and combines with the symbiote.
Like, adapt the best parts of the symbiote storyline WHILE actually giving spider-man time to use the symbiote past the point of no return where he HAS to rid himself of it and reconcile with those he's hurt.
I do think, though, that retconning anything in the previous films for Peter would undercut their impact. I think the simplest way forward would just be to adapt the Spider-man of the Romita Sr. era where he goes to college, meets Harry, Gwen, new villains, etc.
This man did not name Miles Morales SPIN. He took the name from the preschool show Spidey and his amazing friends.
What I noticed in a lot of prewrites for Spider-Man is that they never involve Mysterio. The one that got shot by the drone in Far from Home was an illusion and Peter only asked Edith if he was real, not if he was dead. If Beck was faking his death by himself (for some reason Beck collapsed after Peter took Edith back) it'd make that smirk at the end of his partings words of "people, they need to believe. And nowadays, they'll believe anything" more amusement about Peter was taken in, especially after Peter claimed he "can't trick me anymore"
If he actually died his body would've been discovered without the Mysterio armor. Likely his crew could've spread the false info that Mysterio's corpse returned to his home dimension upon his death to explain why it was missing.
Love the Superior Spider-Man idea. That's such a good and unique storyline which would separate this version of the character in a really brilliant way.
This is absolutely perfect, you need to make vids like this for the X-men, Fantastic 4, Avengers, Wolverine, Hulk, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, etc.
Oh and Thor
Fun Fact: Matt Damon, Matt Smith, Andrew Scott And Colin Farrell Were All Considered For The Role Of Mysterio Before Jake Gyllenhaal Was Cast
Matt smith interesting.
Would you try to make it so that Peter gets his own green goblin that kills his Gwen. This would connect to across the spiderverse in terms of it being cannon event. Also showing him spare goblin will highlight how much more human he as become after the college trilogy.
Green Goblin killing Gwen has been done on screen already, it's be too predictable and derivative to do it again. From my perspective, the Canon event is Goblin killing someone close to Spidey, not necessarily Gwen. So, Aunt May's death could be considered the MCU version of that canon event.
Going off Spider-Verse terms, Tom Holland actually BROKE his canon event with the help of Andrew.
I think it will be revealed that canon events don’t need to happen in Beyond the Spiderverse, it will be something else causing the universal incursions. With this in mind, killing off Gwen doesn’t need to happen.
@@ccelite3782 Yeah, I am willing to bet that if there is a cameo from Andrew or Tom, they would be told they are at fault for ruining their canon event, but stopped their earth from collapsing anyways.
Bro "The Superior Spider-Man" is scary. Imagine losing your body for over one and a half years.
This is simply impeccable. I really like how this all fits together. Might I ask as to whether Rhino could appear at some point, like as an opening fight scene in one of these films?
Yes that can happen. Make it the official opening to Spider-Man: Devil's Reign. Rhino's origin is tied to Scorpion and Prowler as he got his suit from and works for Kingpin.
@@TheBlackLion001 Yes! That works really well!
@@TheBlackLion001 Also I'm strangely very pleased that Spidercide is a secondary villain of the clone saga. I'm not sure why, but I think he's neat.
Finn wittrock deserve to be eddie brock venom or ludwig too can do great venom and eddie of the mcu
Ludwig is a twitch streamer.
@@theirongiants i talk about alexender ludwig bro he can do great brock too
It would be sick is in Spiderman 7 instead of peter and otto swapping at the end, otto hears peter in his head the whole time begging to let him back in and only when harry is about to die (show otto despite trying is not a better spiderman than peter) decided to give that control back to peter for him to save harry in a final sacrifice kind of way. that way we can get a good peter quip to goblin (probably about him looking different than the NWH goblin) and we get the iconic "its really you", "the one and only" line when peter returns.
I think Jason Macendale should be a replacement for Doc Ock. While I love Alfred Molina, it’s going to be hard to make a Doc Ock that compares to Raimi’s and Insomniac’s takes. Hobgoblin was a leader of the Sinister Six in the comics, who could later be succeeded as leader by Aaron Davis. But I didn’t expect you to do the Superior Spider-Man so that’s pretty cool! I also liked the incorporation of Ultimate Goblin!
I just like Demogoblin and we need a Hobgoblin saga before that.
I like it. You have some really great ideas! I hope we actually get nine Spider-Man movies with Tom Holland. This franchise has so much potential.
Magnificent, this is most definitive take on a Spider-Man film series I've ever seen. Admittedly continuing past the Mutant Saga with a movie involving Knull as the main antagonist and a Spider-Geddon adaption is a bit far, but not entirely unwelcome since I would like to see how those would go.
Nul or Knull ?
@@sbee75 It was Knull. My bad.
@@devonjeffers5898Okay
If they pull this off it will be remembered for all of history
Here's what my spider-man saga would like
-Spider-man freshman year 2017 origin movie replacing tasm with shocker and vulture would be main villains his outfits would be the ultimate spider-man wrestling outfit and the mcu homade suit at the end of the movie before the final swing he makes the classic ditko suit
Gwen and Harry would be childhood friends like in spectacular and liz allen would be the main love interest for the first trilogy peter and flash going from rivals to friends would also be a big focus of the trilogy
Captain stacy becomes peter's ally at the end of the movie
The end credit scene would be nick fury trying to recruit him for the avengers and telling him he's an old friend of his parents
- team up movies cap and tony would both mentor him but it would mainly be in the avengers movies not the solo movies and his role in civil war would be much
-mcu spider-man 2 201 vulture would be the main villain movie would start out with peter stopping random crimes a few being villains before they're villains sandman rhino and scorpion
The main villain of this one would be mysterio
-Mcu spider-man 3 2021 scorpion and kraven would be the villains of this one captain stacy would die and ask peter to look after his little girl liz and peter break up Gwen is dating harry so he has no date for prom but then aunt may introduces him to mj the movie would end with peter and Harry moving into a college dorm room and meeting randy Robertson
Mcu spider-man 4 2023 would be based on spider-man no more
Organized crime would be a bug focus in this trilogy with kingpin hammerhead and tombstone would be a big focus in this trilogy
Dr connors would be his college professor
Kingpin puts a bounty on spider-man's head and notman creates electro sandman and rhino to go after him but doctor octopus would be the main villain
Peter reunites with a childhood friend at college eddie brock constantly late to his big group hangouts with harry Gwen mj flash and eddie and due to the stress of everything going on he eventually quits he returns gwen finds out he's spider-man and they start dating and harry starts dating mj
-mcu spider-man 5 2025 lizard would be the main villain tasm really failed to adapt his family life and peter reuniting them so that'd definitely be something they should do
The post credit scene would be norman finally becoming the goblin
-mcu spider-man 6 2027 this would be the big one the sinister six doctor octopus vulture mysterio sandman electro and kraven who all have upgraded suits and have green goblin as the mastermind behind it all peter gets his ass beat but he beats them but then goblin reveals himself they fight and the tragic death of Gwen stacy happens peter beats the shit of Norman before he of course impales himself
This trilogy ends with peter moving into a shitty apartment alone
-Mcu spider-man 7 2029 peter is depressed harry has become a drug addict his friendship with peter is strained mj also breaks up with him but he starts dating liz allen
The symbiote attaches to peter at first it just looks like a black and white version of the normal suit but then it evolves into the classic symbiote suit all of peter's anger and frustrations after Gwen's death explode and black cat becomes a love interest a further temptation to the Darkside
He lashes out at harry and eddie permanently pushing them away
He also lashes out at mj but she closes the door and stays with him
-mcu spider-man 8 2031 the symbiote has really affected peter he looks like a drug addict sunken tired eyes pale with a stubble
Black cat breaks up with him because he's a brutal jerk
Mj reveals she knows he's spider-man peter gets rid of the black suit eddie becomes venom peter defeats him and he starts dating mj
The post credit scenes would be eddie meeting his new cellmate cletus Cassidy setting up a venom spinoff and the second one would be be harry becoming the new goblin
-spider-man 9 2033 would obviously be the new goblin story harry blows up peter's apartment takes mj to the bridge where Gwen dies but peter saves her
Of course eventually harry redeems himself saving mj peter and his son
This trilogy ends with peter and mj moving in a decent appartement together
-Mcu spider-man 10 2035 i don't really know who the villains of this trilogy would be but mr negative is one of them and tombstone is now in charge of the criminal underworld one of them mj and peter get married at the the end of the movie and peter becomes a teacher
-mcu spider-man 11 2037 would really focus on his married life and him helping out students
-mcu spider-man 12 2039 notman gets ressurected as a giant monster aunt may dies in this one peter and mj move into her house in queens
Peter meets a 10 year old new student named miles moeales just entering middle school
-spider-man miles morales trilogy 2041-2045 peter is 38 now miles is 12 gets spider powers peters immediately figures it out by the way he's acting peter becomes his mentor and him and mj are expecting mayday parker hat'd be a big focus off this trilogy
At the end of the trilogy peter retires from being spider-man mayday is 5 years old peter is 43 and now him and mj are expecting another kid benji Parker
Miles would get his own saga
Then eventually I'd do movies on mayday with miles becoming the mentor
And a spider-man 2099 franchise
First movie and you already have Peter kill somebody. This is the second concept I see of a new Spider-Man trilogy where he kills somebody. Why is everyone so horny for Peter killing people? ESPECIALLY AFTER NO WAY HOME? Are we just gonna have him re-learn the same lesson over and over again, like the previous trilogy?
And we'll get all of those films BEFORE Beyond the Spiderverse 😭😭😭😭😭
Spiderman is my favorite marvel character and superhero.
how would you handle a Spider-Man cinematic universe with only Spider-Man/new york characters (daredevil luke cage Jessica Jones punisher and iron fist)
yeahh, dont be expecting a call from marvel anytime soon-
I like the overall idea, but I'm not a fan of calling Miles "Spin" until the last Peter Parker movie. Miles is just as much Spiderman as Peter is, and I think a good argument can be made that if you're introducing 99 other Spidermen into the second to last movie, leaving Miles out by calling him "Spin" is an insult. Not to mention the fact that Peter would already be calling Miles Spiderman, because that is who Peter is. Anyone can be Spiderman, and Miles embodies that idea more than most. I get that this is supposed to be Miles "earning the mantel" but he already does so by embracing the Spiderman mantra, which you have the character doing over the course of like 5 years and 6 appearances; by the last spidey movie, he's been in several large event films and Spiderman adventures. No way he hasn't "earned" the title by the end of movie one.
I just don't think the MCU is as receptive to the idea of multiple characters sharing a name, the only examples I can think of are the two Hawkeyes but even then one of them is mostly retired and Thor but then one of them was swiftly killed off. I do however agree that Miles being called Spin for four movies is a bit much so I would add that a part of "The Superior Spider-Man" is Miles proving himself in Peter's absence and as a part of Otto's moral compass and from then on out being known as Spider-Man.
Still a better (temporary) name then Kid Arachnid
I’m praying they don’t mess up his character!
Now I want a mutant saga series on your channel😮
I love your Devil’s Reign idea
I'd prefer to leave out MJ and Ned, to really sell the effects and consequences of NWH. It'd be interesting to see a different love interest that isn't 1 of the Big 3, maybe one of the less well-known ones: Carlie Cooper, Sophia sanduval, etc
I'll be honest, I've never liked any of Peter's love interests aside from MJ, Gwen, Black Cat and maybe Silk so I never really considered including them. I think they should leave MJ and Ned out of Spider-Man 4 and most of Spider-Man 5 but I don't think those particular effects of NWH should last forever.
I’d be interested in them introducing Black Cat , give him an ambiguous female character instead of an outright love interest.
@@triggatrey2112yeah I'm ready to see black cat on the big screen
Could You Make a 20 year long saga for other heroes too? Please?
Maybe you should do a video on how you would structure the mutant saga (just a thought I had)
Pretty sure the original Sony contract states Spider-Man isn't allowed to kill unless he's in the symbiote suit
Seriously? That is so specific, why would they want that? That never happened in the comics
This arc has steaks I love it
Lets go a New video!! Pin ?
For Devil's reign, having Kate Bishops Hawkeye makes it quite the bit better, for sure if Peter kills someone afterwords - Hawkeye having dealt with his Ronin jazz, the next avengers movie could have Clint Barton talk to Peter.
I would absolutely love this
Which MCU character has the potential to carry the franchise other than Spidey?
The MCU's X-Men and Fantastic Four has that potential
It's gotta be Daredevil for sure.
@@TheBlackLion001Are you gonna do the same for X-Men and Fantastic Four ?
MCU Spiderman activated instant kill mode in Endgame. I get that those weren’t “human” enemies but still. Acting like he’s totally innocent when it comes to murder in No Way Home felt like a retcon
I just feel like the MCU blocked themselves from doing the Doc Oc story. One of the main tragedies about Peter and Otto's relationship is that they were so close, and that Peter did not save him in time. Knowing Oc's story and how to save him theres no way Spider-man would have that happen again. I do think it is a possibility for him to befriend Harry, and have him become the Green Goblin. Maybe he doesn't know harry's last name until later, and because he is still grieving May he continuously pushes harry away or somehow accidentally causes him to become Green Goblin instead of his father.
You had me up until introducing miles
Let’s just jam 20 different comic lines together.
Great ideas
Great video. Just found your channel. Subscribed.
Very good and understandable! I see 80k for you!
My idea for Spider-Man 6: Do not use Doc Ock.
The Sinister Six can have a new leader and the plot can be pretty much the same as you suggested. The Mad scientist role could be given to the Jackal. All these spider bites inflected on himself could turn him into the creature that e know from the comics.
cast harry holland as Ben Riley in the last film
I don't really like the whole introduction of Uncle Ben in your movies. It's made very clear in No Way Home that Uncle Ben doesn't exist in our the main MCU universe, is supposed to be replaced by Aunt May. I also doubt trying to make the audience feel bad about Peter's guilt of his death won't work because he wasn't introduced in any past movies and up until now we all assumed that he didn't exist.
How do u do it? How do u always nail these type of vids?
the idea of MCU spider-man going for 20 years is a horrible nightmare
how fans from the internet have better ideas for superhero movies than the actual directors
There is no way the MCU will still be going in 20 years time, especially with the same characters/actors. I am a nerd and have a massive hard on for multiverse shenanigans and tie-ins but this gets a bit too much to follow even for me. The general audience will completely tire of Spiderman and other MCU properties by 2030. I could see a mutant saga generating some interest especially with Deadpool and this new Wolverine joining but we've already seen these characters for a long time now too. Not to mention, the actors aren't getting any younger, and new characters aren't gaining any traction. Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman, Chris Hemsworth etc. are not going to be able to play their characters forever and they are typecast; once they retire those characters will never appear on the big screen again. This even applies to Tom Holland - Will he really want to play Spiderman in his 30s? I know Maguire and Garfield came back to play their Spidermen but that was a one time thing and it was a love letter to their series'.
It doesn't help that Phase Four has been overwhelmingly poor with only a few select titles hitting. The majority if it isn't going anywhere and I can't see the ageing actors hanging onto physically demanding and exhausting roles for much longer if they aren't generating box office hits. If you ask me the MCU is on it's way out and the grand finale of the Multiverse Saga that absolutely no one seems to even care about in the first place is going to be the last major MCU release.
Cool video
Thanks
People need to be okay with actor recasting if they want a super long saga like this. Comic fans are NOTORIOUS known for hating recasting and an actor might not want to do a long 20 year saga even if the story is immaculate. If a another person is cast and nothing changes story wise, arc wish but the actor, i feel that's the only way for longevity of a story. Other wise 3 movies and 7 years later, were restarting the story over AGAIN because fans didn't want actor B to take over actor A's spot
Having miles use any name other than Spider-Man is such a massive step in the wrong direction
dumb for two characters to operate same area and time with the same name
inb4 someone blindly uses insom as an example of it working when it didn't work
If this was real it’d be weird for me to think that after first seeing MCU Peter when I was 9 years old, by the time he’d be done, I’d be 29 and coming up on 30
I feel like your ideas to a great job of connecting the universe together because why wouldn’t other hero’s help out
Can you a video of what you would have done with the Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield universe
Too much multiverse stuff,but this was still amazing
The next trilogy in reality NEEDS to drop mj and Ned for now. It should be Gwen and Harry, the symbiote trilogy and green goblin as the main villain, the symbiote should be done infinitely better then the garbage venom movies. Peter should think that green goblin is Norman but finds out it's actually Harry. Harry should k!ll Gwen in the second movie after Peter gave up the symbiote, then he puts it on again in the last one and loses control and realizes he can't keep it. Something like that. Then in the next bunch we can have a good venom, an evil venom and see Cameron monaghan as carnage like we deserve :)
I don’t really agree with this take on Venom. I don’t really care who’s wearing the suit so I don’t mind that it’s Kraven but what I do care about is who Venom is. There are two main traits that make Venom such a terrifying villain. His hatred for Spider-Man and the fact that he knows his secret identity. His entire motivation is build on the foundation of his absolute undying hatred for Peter Parker. The fact that he knows his secret means he can be anywhere at anytime to try and kill Peter. Combine that with how he’s immune to spider sense then you have a villain who can be anywhere at anytime and Peter wouldn’t know. Making him just some big cgi monster takes away the core foundation of what makes Venom Venom.
Would u care of Ned became venom
Superior Spider-Man would never work on screen. The backlash would be insane.
u could maybe just say mj changed her name bc she became an actor or model?
I feel like Eddie Brock or Harry Osborn needs to be placed into the muc to take the more beastly look of venom but still be an anti hero then introduce Martin li and make flash agent anti venom
Something that I loved about Hawkeye was Kate, Bishop, and I want more of her
Black Lion would the Peter Parker clone who could be Tom Holland Peter’s brother be played by Tom Holland’s real life younger brother?
No, they should cast an actual actor who just so happens to look a bit like Tom Holland, shouldn't be hard.
dawg, he doesn’t have an uncle ben, he’s never mentioned, never seen in any pictures, and we saw may giving pete the great power line in no way home and it was played has that was the first time he heard it. also realistically with how young may seems to be it’s totally possible she has never been married and raised pete as a single woman. either have his subconscious be may and/or tony. cause realistically tony and/or may was his motivation, we know that he’s always loved and and looked up to iron man/tony and that his aunt may always taught him good values. so realistically for this spider-man, he probably got his powers on a school trip similar to tobey, then maybe tried to use them for money a little, and one night he witnessed a lady being robbed or something and he decided to step in and he used his powers to help, and later that night he sees some broadcast of tony or something about the avengers and it’s talking about heroism and then that inspires tom to become spidey. 9:05
also in NWH doesn’t he like at least acknowledge that he didn’t have an uncle ben?
W video overall
I don’t think we’ll see kraven in a Spider-Man movie because of the movie that he’s getting
What if Ned becomes the Green goblet in the MCU but it won’t be called the green golden he will become the hob goblin which will be the MCU‘s counterpart of the green goblin and spider-Man knows he hast to fight his best friend
I think the last Spider-Man movie should be spider island mixed with clone saga
Also it’s revealed that Peter has his powers but let’s others take up his responsibilities
Tom Holland pretty much doesn't want to do Spider-Man movies anymore, as he's now been in six MCU movies. It's also very stressful on his body. I'd rather them do other characters if I'm being honest.
Bro should be hired to be a writer 😝
Dude do you make these posters? Do you make them in PhotoShop?
Yes and yes
You should do a spider-man universe similar to mcu phase
I would like the simbiote suit to be in Like 2 movies before it really starts messing up with peter
Can we download these posters? They're so cool!
i don't think peter would kill someone tbh, i feel that kind of dampens his effort to spare norman in NWH. but i do get that not everything is black and white with characters and that they can get worse before they get better
I love how u didnt kill off peter's kids like the comics
Never crossed my mind
Ummm. Where's Big Wheel?
Big wheel will be in my universe that isn't lazily made and has more heroes than stupid Spider-People
@@yoyoyiggityyo17how's your universe coming along
you should've included happy hogan as the freak
If they bring back daredevil I pray they don't bring back foggy or karen
There not but really I like foggy but Karen is meh
@@YoungLingslayer2023 i just started watching daredevil I'm in the middle of season 2 it's so good
They are bringing back Daredevil and Karen and Foggy aren't coming back. I do however 100 disagree with this take, both Karen and Foggy are big parts of what made Daredevil so great.
@@TheBlackLion001 cool
He is my favourite Spider-Man
Can you do a street level marvel timeline?
Man I could not disagree more with half your points. No doc ock. Recon mj as Mary Jane? Bring up Peter’s uncle Ben moment (bro did you not watch no way home, we saw his uncle Ben moment)
Mutant saga please
The X-Men, Fantastic Four,the negatives zone, what else. But I am but if it will be good.
why would he not want to be spider man for that long he litterally said he always wanted to be spiderman
I would love for a live action Spider Verse Movie
So no Eddie Brock Venom? Is there Venom movies made by Sony going on this whole time?