Being from a family with an abuser I can attest the abuser can be super charming & even funny in front of others & in public. You come to cherish those good times & fear the trigger moments. The Dr.Jekyll/Mr.Hyde personality does exist. The threats with gun shots & holes in the wall can happen…. It’s an emotional & psychological roller coaster life🎢
This mans state of mind ? ? Married a very young woman within 2 weeks of meeting her? Shooting his gun into the ceiling. Punching a hole in the wall ? These are true anger issues.
There are anger issues yes but no evidence he hit her. And what about her? She chose to marry this man after 12 days. Do we dismiss her actions as being an "emotionally vulnerable young woman"? He helped her pursue her dream to create a ballet company - she was getting what she wanted. Do we know how their marriage came about - was it her initiation or his? He just lost his wife recently, he was a veteran and very likely had PTSD from his service making his emotional state potentially more difficult to manage. His prior DV history could have been related to his service, but he didn't hit her at least there is no record introduced at this point as I understand. Her "vulnerable and naive" DV victim defense is still suspect at this point - at least for me.
She's an easy read manipulator, I have zero clue how she's done this too. I'm glad I have sixth sense of reading people like I can...he may have anger issues, but that doesn't even come CLOSE to saying he was an abuser! You wanna hear some things I say after the Chicago Bears lose. Him doing the things he did do shows short fuse and he needs to vent in other ways, but does not mean he's an abuser. She's the type to say certain things to him, but SHOW or even tell others different, she probably had him wound tighter than a clock and then with finding some of this stuff out and/or realizing it to himself. Which made him unspin FAST. He needed to realize that and vent anger in other ways, absolutely, but that doesn't mean he's an abuser
I’m so frustrated that people don’t understand what it feels like to be in a abusive situation. It looks happy in front of everyone but alone it is so bad.
So no evidence of her being abused is evidence that she was being abused?? And everybody she knows saying that she appeared happy is proof that she was unhappy?? And war is peace, right?
Yes 🙌 this is what I’ve said .Only 1 of my friends knew what was going on and I hid it from everyone else until the day I was punched in the mouth and it was so swollen I couldn’t hide it .The constant threat of him killing himself if I left made me stay for months if not a year after I decided it was over 😢
And we are frustrated by people who claim to be with an abusive partner, yet never call the police, or do anything to remove themselves from said situation. It must be very frustrating to be with a partner who will claim abuse just because they lost an argument, or had to take some personal accountability, or they are just not getting their way and what they demand. Equally, I am delighted that most don't understand. It would be a very sad world if they did, and seems to be an odd thing to call for.
I think he/she saw it in passing and asked their lawyer to convey for impartiality. I think it’s good really that those involved in the trial (especially a juror) are accountable because the media stuff could be so detrimental.
Peter, I just want to say, thank you. For not having a 20 min intro to your live streams and videos. And yes, I do just FF past the intro... or a nice short into like yours is awesome too 😃
My best friend for a decade was well known for being the nicest, most selfless guy anyone knew. I had never seen him angry before-until we started dating & living together in our mid/late 20s. I trusted him soooo much & yet I saw this side of him that was an angry & bitter drunk threatening to k*ll himself every other day. I had never seen this side of him for 10 years, through all his worst & best times! I had been in an abusive relationship about 5 years prior, so it not only shocked me but scared the shit out of me very quickly. and I was in my the best personal well-being of my life. that came crashing down sooo fast. I’m really glad to be done with that chapter of my life, but it grew an even bigger pit in my stomach of “you don’t truly know someone EVER.“
@@slanigradimagine blaming someone else for the actions of an angry and aggressive drunk who could leave at anytime but probably didn’t because he needed daily support and assurance from his spouse.
My ex left me for dead. I came up with the explanations we could give the doc for my injuries while on the way to the hospital. Afterwards there would be plenty of videos of me laughing with him, even having a nice time. That didn’t mean I wasn’t still scared of him, or that he wasn’t capable of killing me. Its called a mind fuck for a reason. Nothing about our behavior is going to be what you , who have never lived it, thinks it should. After I kicked my ex out, I still had him come over one night, and it was even nove seeing him. The next night I stayed up all night with his gun on my hip, terrified he was coming to kill me. Truly there is NO WAY to know if she is telling the truth, but there are things pointing to him being threatening. I was the first woman he ever hit, then one night beat me and left for dead. He was an “amazing” man. Abuse doesn’t have a one size fits all.
Your story sounds awfully familiar. My first cover story was I tripped and fell down two flights of stairs.... Did everyone else think he was just the greatest guy, too? There has been nothing solid to prove or disprove he was violent, but what's been said so far sure fits the mold, imh opinion and experience.
Yes...thank you. My abuser (who also almost k*lled me) was such a "great guy". So funny and charming to everyone. Except when we got behind close doors. I never told a soul but he svrewed up and tried to k*ll us both in front of my grandmother. Even after that his friends think he's such a great guy.
I’m sorry that must have been horrible because you know two different people the one that showed you love and care and then the other side. It’s hard to wrap one’s head around that and shut off love. I get so mad when ppl say it’s the persons fault for staying or whatever. No, they are abused.
I recall in some high profile cases, lunch was provided to jurors because there was an instance where it was mentioned they requested better choices or something. For whatever reasons, jurors in this case go out to get their own lunches. Maybe that was a mistake if people in restaurants near the courthouse are talking about it. It seems to me to be an easily fixable problem: allow a delivery app or just have court employees go pick up “to go” orders to bring food orders to the jurors … and of course, I’m assuming jurors are provided a room or rooms to eat lunch.
Jurors are usually only provided lunch if they are sequestered during the trial or if they have begun deliberations. I had to leave the courthouse to get my own lunch both times that I served, both federal and state. I only remember having access to the jury room during deliberations or if we were sent out of the courtroom but not on recess but that probably varies.
@@laurabrooks9688 I understand that’s the way they do things; and most of the time, it probably works fine. But for these high profile cases where there are a lot of reporters and spectators every day in the gallery, it seems to me to be an easy precaution that would cost A LOT less than a mistrial would cost if too many jurors overheard too much at lunch. If it is a high profile, interesting case, it seems obvious that courtroom spectators would go to restaurants near the courthouse during lunch break and they’d be talking about what they just observed.
I'm glad somebody commented about how he initiated almost all of the texts and that she just gave short or emoji responses, I noticed that too... and yes, vey telling from a dv perspective. Hope the defense points that out in their closing and asks the jury to go back and look over those texts in that light.
The media rep with News 8 needs to stop approaching witnesses as soon as they come out of the courtroom. The media should learn the correct way to be a media rep. Because the way they are doing now is not good!!!
Do you know if the same reporter was involved in all three incidents or has the info about the restaurant reporter not been identified yet. I know it's barely been a day but I have a whole ocean in the way and don't know which media to check😅
@@fernandaolivares7926she told the counselors she wasn’t staying with him but didn’t tell Doug, he wasn’t going to be living with them in MD he found his dream job and was going because she said they were reconciling
My abuser killed one of my baby rabbits in front of me, skinned it, cooked it on the grill in front of me and made me eat it. Wa La not a bruise on me. But fear deeply instilled. His family thought the moon hung on him too, and so did his friends. You just never know how someone has been screwed in the mind
Exactly - my ex would let me know that I better do this or better do that -- he would spit on me (we had 3 children) - if he would hit me - it was only on my back or top of my legs because no one would see it...but he was everyone's best buddy and I knew they would never believe me. I did finally get up the nerve to leave with the kids....and while he had visitation (he NEVER paid child support) - I get the kids all ready (they loved their Dad and I never talked back about him in front of them -same as he never abused me in front of them - until he did and that's when I left) - but they loved him and they would sit watching for him and he wouldn't show up... So yes, unless you have been there - you have no idea what is truly happening....her emails totally made me think she knows she better respond and keep it "nice" . . .
It sounds like they are saying the abuse was emotional/psychological and this was the first time it went physical. My ex was the same way, thankfully without access to a gun. It's scary to watch this person escalate and know help isn't coming - worse that people accuse you of being manipulative because there isn't "proof" - and the very quality of your life and the life of your children also depends on you behaving in a way that covers for scary behaviors done in private. It's scary when the people and organizations that are supposed to protect you don't act. I can see why she acted as she did. No one else was going to keep her safe, and his escalation could be deadly by the time someone pays attention
the most difficult thing I’ve had to do is take my emotions out of this trial. I would not want to be on the jury because of that, I started off thinking I could be objective and I realize that with any history you can’t be, or at least in my case.
Having been in an abusive marriage - that's what you do - you laugh - you keep everything "happy" to keep them happy!! They are like a light switch - say the wrong thing . . . and oh buddy . . . the other side comes out when least expected!! You can't judge without knowing what a relationship is like - So glad that Vermont changed their law for abused woman - in the Jennifer Dulos case - he didn't hit/beat her - so because there were no bruises/black eyes - there was no abuse!!! They now look at the psychological abuse...which is what I lived with -- I would pray he would just hit me and get it over with - after an hour of verbal abuse - spitting in my face - screaming in my face!! No bruises though!
@@cmaggior1exactly when she thought no one in power believed her the police were not believing her the judge in family court basically called her a lier what did everyone expect. Being in an abusive relationship I know how it is to put on a happy face in front of others as to not get in trouble when alone.
Same, seen my sister do it to her ex husband, and had my ex do it to me. Yet so many who were victims of abuse automatically believe the woman was the victim jist because she says she was.
@@Tinmann_77 I have personally seen the same thing play out in the courts. It is chilling and frightening to see the destruction to the parent of false accusations in police reports, child abuse allegations, etc.
Or maybe your mom became more noticeably manipulative in order to maintain peace & not have to walk on egg shells & subconsciously controlled when the eruptions would happen like EOD & controlled explosions
Does FL not provide lunches for the jury?? Isn’t that one of the reasons they are normally provided lunch so they do not have to go into public places during lunch when the whole gallery is also out to lunch??
@@spoonlessvalkyrie7514yes it is very unusual, extremely unusual for them to be on their own to go get lunch. You generally get a $25 - $35 lunch ticket & it’s to a certain restaurant & within walking distance. However, they normally bring in the menus, every one chooses what they would like, it’s ordered & 1 person with a bailiff or court officer goes to pick it up, or the court has it delivered to a sequestered room. Seriously, I believe we’re going to have to begin sequestering the juries & keeping them all in one single hotel, and not allowing them to be in public, going home at night to their family; using their cell phones during the day, & keeping them logged in without any access to the YT & SM channels.
Yes but how many houses have 20ft line of sight from a person threatening you? Not many. She’s also not a cop and many cops misjudge threats even with training until the person is in their personal space.
It is 21 feet , not 20 , in the well not paper development by an expert in Utah. This is why we have 7 yard targets. Close up distance is 21 feet..the paper is available on the web
Abusive people can hide their behaviors in public.People never know.Also,it’s a cycle of abuse where the abuser is nice, things are good, then flips, then is nice, things are good, then flips. The victim hangs on that hope each time that they have rehabilitated and tries to enjoy the good times but the cycle continues- not saying this is the case but I lived this and then the last flip becomes the most dangerous one totally unexpected. I don’t know this case very well but people don’t know what really goes on inside a home.
I’m a court clerk and that is exactly what we do in our district. They also get doughnuts, fruit, candy, drinks and we try to accommodate any special requests. Love my job!
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Thank you Peter for continuing to recap this trial with all of us! 💗 I always learn so much from your livestreams and videos. This is hands down my favorite channel on YT and I love the CYK just as much as I love the LYK! 🫶🏽
Always appreciate your recaps!! You & Emily D. Baker are the best reasonable & unbiased lawyers on UA-cam. Really appreciate it as I’ll be in law student soon! (Kinda reminds me of how my more beloved law professors would comment if they did UA-cam lol. Educational, makes you think, unbiased, real-world knowledge, standing on fundamental rights even if it’s “unpopular”)
The gun that Ashley Used to defend herself is a Springfield XD in .45 ACP.. this gun does not have a manual safety that you can toggle on or off. It has a grip safety, a safety in the trigger and it has a safety that blocks the firing pin if it were to be dropped on the ground. As soon as you pick this up with a firm grip and pull the trigger it will fire instantly. There's no preparing it or getting it ready. Somebody talked about that in the live chat today and it was incorrect.
@@1525ism Doug was NOT armed when he went over to help Ashley move... AT. HER. REQUEST. She gaslit him into believing they were all moving to Maryland and reconciling. I mean seriously, just look at the chain of text messages between Doug & Ashley in the days leading up to the homicide.
I didn’t watch the live chat replay, but from what you gathered from live chat and what appeared on screen; I agree with CYK on this one. I shudder to vote on this poll at this point. Do I feel satisfied with the state’s case? No. Does that force my hand to vote NG? I gueessss? Do I feel good about it? No. There is SO much lacking in the state’s case - in fact the opposite. It is THEIR professional witnesses who testified to Doug’s previous violent acts. What are we spose to do with that? I really think we need to hear the entire case, down to rebuttal on this one. Overall, unimpressed with the prosecution of this case.
This is a self defense case meaning they only need prove she killed him. They proved that. Now it is on THE DEFENSE to prove it was justified. People that are saying the state didn’t prove their case seam to think she has a presumption of self defense simply claiming it and the pros has to disprove it. Not the case.
What you do is believe that he was proven violent and that she was abused and did her very best to escape . Whether she planned to shoot him as a last resort or was terrified can not be proven . Benefit of the doubt = NG .
@@BlackStump172 I think she overreacted and that deadly force was not her only resort in this situation. She ended a life. I saw no tangible evidence he ever threatened to end hers.
I grew up in a DV household. It was physical twice but was mostly mental and emotional. I feared for my life many times as did one parent. The other parent played the great game with everyone. They all thought this person was a great parent and partner. Not one person knew what was happening. You have to play the game to appease the abuser. I am waiting for the defense case but I don't not believe at this point there was DV.
I'm waiting for the defense case to proof anything. They both like guns and in every damn American movie someone punched holes in walls. She moved away she lived with her mum not him. She didn't have to let him in all the time. I don't buy the she wanted sole custody she's manipuled him stuff either. Idk guns are just the worst
You state, "Not one person knew what was happening" yet YOU assume it didn't happen to her? Wtf? Seriously. How about the punch holes in the walls and the gun shot in the ceiling? That's not reason to question his inability to control his anger?
@@DOLfirstyou misread my comment. I said I don't not believe she's a victim. Meaning I believe she is a victim of dv. I don't believe the state proved their case but I always wait until the end of testimony to make a decision.
In Utah they added to the law to caution police against making quick assumptions about abuse because it appears the other person is the violent one. This was after the gabby petito case. They thought she was the abuser and she ended up getting killed. Criminal lawyers and police officers should have to take classes to learn how to better understand and identify abuse.
My ex was so violent with me, kicked holes in doors, drove dangerously, punched holes in door next to my face, spit in my face, and blew up in a rage weekly over nothing. I only deescalated, and never retaliated for fear of broken bones, it only happened to me, and they were calm and happy toward everyone else, at work an angel. I left, but right before is when they hit my face 25 times, trapped me in my room, someone called cops, they got off me, after biting my finger till it bled, and ripping my hair out, and spitting in my face and shouted at me to leave or I was going off to jail. I still moved away a week later, then filed a police report, got restraining order, they had 52 week batterers course ordered and were reprimanded in court by judge. I honestly went through hell with police getting my report, being asked why didn't I report sooner, when statute of limitations is 5 years. If my face wasn't deeply bruised for a month, I think noone would believe me. Its so hard because just thinking of the violent reactions to going to a hearing to get the rrsttaining order is reliving the worst fear of their violence. Someone shouting, throwing things, pulling you by the hair, shoving you, accusing you daily of things, highly jealous when completely unfounded, but they flirt, cheat, ignore you is psychological threats. DV is a pattern, and this person had been doing this to their partners for 40 years, but I never would have expected it until it happened in my rel, after the first week, gtadually got worse and worse till I got out...
Y do u people keep writing what happened to u ? I guess if u think it happened to u she’s innocent it had to happen to her? If y’all can’t see how biased this is I’m literally shocked
Absolutely that's abuse. I'm sorry you went through it. My sister married a guy like that. But so far I haven't heard evidence go that. Only her lawyers talking
@@maytheforcebewithyou4313 I do know I just choose not to take 10+ minutes writing it when half of u claim u need a mental institution if u even think about it. Definitely been abused by parents siblings significant others. I guess not all ppl built the same
I've been watching the trial itself elsewhere, but I love coming back to your recaps because this is a Florida case and you are a Florida attorney. A lot of other chats are so incredibly toxic about abuse/DV and victims. Regardless of whether or not you believe Ashley to be one, plenty are who have stories eerily similar to their own lives and its incredibly painful to watch chats devolve around generalizations about abuse victims.
The guy was 54 when he died. That's not young at all. He has an adult daughter. Is there any details about how he conducted himself in previous relationships? Surely there would be some clues to his abusive violent nature? It would be odd to begin that behavior in your 50's if you hadn't been abusively violent before. I find it scary that a woman can shoot a man, and then the community sees it that HE has to prove he wasn't violent, rather than HER having to prove that he was. Let's not forget that previous courts have ruled her to be untrustworthy. She even tried to say he was sexually abusive to his kid, and the court threw it out.
Watching live each day with RA then getting Peters opinion after. For those who want to know what the daughters TikTok posts were after she was on the stand, RA looked them up almost immediately and told us what they said/were about. I’m still torn at this point. Hearing some of the stuff the defense has tried to get in, but judge won’t allow seems she may have been the victim of DV. I had a past partner that was controlling so I get “go along get along” mentality. I can see Ashley playing nice over texts to just keep the peace while telling others she was done. Long story short I’m not convinced one way or another yet. I have however learned so much during this trial with the judge making so many decision on camera with the jury excused. I absolutely love this judge, don’t agree with all his rulings but still love him.
Ok so I was thinking correctly. The daughter has been making tik toks saying that her dad was murdered for no good reason and that this woman was awful. But then the trial shows that he obviously had aggressive scary behavior. This is a hard one
That's the same daughter that her father didn't respect her enough to tell her before he moved a complete stranger new wife into the home with her. It's the same daughter that said yes she knew how the bullet hole got in the kitchen roof and the fist punch hole in the kitchen wall. So I don't believe she didn't know about her father's temper. But afyer he died it's easy to forget all that and all of a sudden this man was such a saint. My ex was violent behind closed doors, his family knew, but when he died he suddenly became this holier than now saint.
@@mandystone3005Perhaps she is enjoying the attention and the vulnerable position of the defendant who was the interloper into her home . Revenge feels good .
@BlackStump172 Don't get me wrong I have understanding that she was not happy to have this women in her recently deceased moms house, she was a child then but now at 24, the age AB was when she moved in, I think she can look back and see that her father did that. AB was not just someone that walked in off the street and forced her and her dad to let her live there, her father did that and just told her afterwards. Even that shows that he was controlling and did what he wanted because no one else's opinion mattered. His daughter said that in those first months she moved in her friend as well. Now imagine you're AB and the daughter hates you and then another teenager moves in without you having any say. I bet you the 2 of them did what teenagers did to the wicked unwanted stepmother and ganged up on her. The daughter in her Tik Tok said she was a complete brat because she hated having AB in her mom's house.
I am glad there are a lot of people have never lived in fear & actress you become to hide it from everyone. I could feel fear & she knows the triggers.
How come it could not be the Swan mentally abusing Doug. Sociopathic behavior would cause a sane person to act in a manner that is not normally their behavior.
He punched out his dog, shot off a gun inside because he was angry, and punched holes in the wall. PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR! What you're talking about is classic blaming the victim!
@@tracyholden5787yes, people are responsible for their own behaviour but there is such a thing as reactive violence. I know someone and his ex would push and push, phone the police and they would turn up just in time for him to react back while she acted all sweet and innocent. We have no idea if that happened in this case because Doug isn't here to tell his side of things. IMO this is probably what happened but I have nothing but a gut feeling and bits of evidence
@@tracyholden5787 you do realize he never hit her though. If you’ve even been around a sociopathic woman a man can be brought to act out due to the consistent push and pull mental and phycological abuse they do to their victims.
Yes, they totally failed to bring the receipts for what they are claiming. Sadly, a lot of people really struggle with the concept of innocent until proven guilty.
Poor thing. She’s just doing everything to be a normal teenage girl. For those who feel she doesn’t care it’s not that at all. It’s too much right now with being a teenager in high school believe me she’s not getting away with going through anything. It will hit her and her true adult hood life and then there she will deal with it.
I've lived through a very similar situation. My parents, I lived day in and out for 18 years. I wish so bad I could explain. My dad acted out very similar but it was out if frustration
Reporters need to back down and refrain from trying to get a headline story knowing that they are going against the judge’s orders of sequestration and putting the witnesses in jeopardy. Nothing but vultures.
My heart breaks for the daughter 💔 my gawd her mom died and her father was murdered! She has every right to be distressed an speak her truth! The defense attorney is a joke !
@@Cowgirl_Sally Thank you. I completely agree about the daughter. I also know my ex NEVER touched me in front of his kids. Didn't mean my ribs were any less broken.
#1- Re: Eva… she stated she only briefly spoke about her EMOTIONS, not the trial, with the reporter & posting a tiktok video ISN’T violating the admonition bc once again, she isn’t conversing with others about the trial… she was posting her thoughts & feelings. Now if a juror/witness watched it, THATS a violation against the juror or other witness.
Do you really think she didn't watch the videos in her feed nor anything else pertaining to this trial if she took the time to post 3 TikTok videos? She's 23yo. This trial is going to be a week not 3 months If courts just start allowing this type of action, the line gets more blurred.
I paid attention when the judge read the instructions to the next witness and she was right. Ashley and her lawyer are obsessed with her. I’ve never seen a defense that attacks victims and the jurors see that ok. If they call her again, that won’t go well. Still in the afternoon the lawyer kept asking for sanctions, disgusting, even the judge told him he is in a fishing expedition.
@@Kkay2490 Apparently you are the one that didn’t watch. The defense didn’t even cross the family and friends that were not in the house. The “friends” that are framing her deserved being exposed. Actually, even one of the main witnesses, since she didn’t seem like faking anything in the stand, they didn’t cross her, Kary. You should go and rewatch.
@@lhr8833😂 kr is the only 1 responsible for John's death. She was the obsessed , aggressive and abusive drunk that decided to drive and back in to John.
I heard about a story in Vanity Fair called "when Doug snd Ashley Benefield started a ballet co, it wasn't suppose to end in death". It's next on my must read list!
My problem is The Police & The Child Protection didn't take her problems seriously, so to me that makes the Defenses Case Stronger, cause No one was helping her deal with his threats & antics.
The State didn’t prove their case to me. The text messages showed her placating him and keeping the peace throughout Doug’s incessant communication. Am looking forward to the Defence case. Thanking you Peter as always for your fair and unbiased coverage!😊🙏
At this point ... as a juror and DV survivor - I haven't seen anything that I wouldn't have done ... I'm UK so no g*n. And when I left 2nd time round I had my cousin with me on moving day - no way would I be alone for that because I have no idea how he'd have reacted. Everyone knew I was leaving including him, either the kids were there and he wouldn't do anything excessive around them, he was in work so we were never alone together. Still no-one knew how bad it was. She had already left, yet he still seemed to be injecting himself in her life. Imo she did what she had to, to remain safe, and keep the child safe, to the point of allowing him to believe he had some control of the situation.
Imo Ashley is a sociopath &/or a psychopath. They were a very dysfunctional couple to say the least. I'm very curious about Ashley & Doug's psychiatric evaluations.
@@1525ism How was she trapped? They hadn't lived together for years, most of their marriage. They were both moving, but not in together. She may not have liked him, but she was, and had been in a position to avoid him.
Makes me very uncomfortable that a lawyer who is defending a victim of domestic abuse is fighting to stop her having a voice about whether she was coerced or forced into her decision about taking the stand.
I appreciate what you do and your approach so much more, after watching Melanie Little and her undeniable support for the defendant. She has turn her chat to a DV support group. 😩
I agree with you 💯!!! I used to watch ML quite a bit but the last couple of days she’s been really biased and the chat has been nothing more than people assuming she’s a DV victim without any proof and turning it into a one sided DV advocate group for AB. The amber heard trial should at least be a caution for this kind of thing.
I was also looking for a sane place to watch this trial. But after checking multiple streams, decided I have to stay out of the chats. It’s a circus. People def made their minds up before trial and it’s difficult to have a discussion with that mindset. If you don’t believe everything she says then “you clearly haven’t survived DV” and “obviously” don’t know what you’re talking about. Peeps gotta do better self care: take a deep breath, pop out of chat, pause the video and do a little yoga or boxing! I do come here for Ps perspective, but it is the one time I really wish he could live stream a trial!
@@sidewayssitter I’m 100% with you. I love when they come with, but she was abandoned by her dad, or she lived the DV, you don’t know what is that. Sadly, I know how to recognize physical abandonment, emotional abandonment, DV and emotional abse, because that was my bread and butter growing up. Precisely because I know how to recognize those things, is why I think some of her stories don’t check. Also as a person that lived those things, I would never mistreat a child that has a huge abandonment trauma because she lost her mom and then her dad was emotionally detach enough to marry in secret. That poor child was fully abandoned and she decided to declare war to her. The way she talks about, Eva, how she treated her and even how she is allowing her to be used in this trial, lets me know that she is not reacting like a survivor because usually survivors protect children. Most victims I know that have kids protect those kids from everything, this woman is using a 6 yrs old child to do a pity campaign out of the court, in the trial about her mom unaliving her dad. I think he was problematic, but she is an abser too. I cannot see the red flags and because of some survivors allegiance decide to be blind about it and say “Ohh poor Ashley”.
I see all the comments arguing whether Ashley’s behaviour, words, actions, tone, facial expressions etc. are indicative of her being a DV victim trying to survive vs a manipulative liar trying to cover up her guilt. But for me, I’m not overly interested in digging into that, at this point. That’s simply because, for me, I can be 100% convinced a person is guilty, and would still feel compelled to vote not guilty if the state had not met their burden of proof. And personally, I don’t feel the prosecution have done that. They put forward a motive - the imminent release of the psych assessments - that they didn’t prove beyond reasonable doubt, and that their own witnesses cast doubt on. They knew, from the 911 call that Ashley claimed it was self defense, but provided no meaningful evidence to counter that claim. And their own witnesses were the ones who testified to things like bullet holes in the ceiling, and fist marks in the walls with no credible suggestion that they were caused by anyone but Doug during violent outbursts. Do I think it’s possible that Ashley is a manipulative liar who murdered her husband to keep her baby from him, and tried to pass that murder off as self defense? Definitely I think that’s possible. But have the state proven that beyond a reasonable doubt? Definitely not. I don’t think they have done enough to show motive, and to rule out self defense. May they get there on rebuttal? It’s possible I suppose, but at this point, it’s a very big ask, in my opinion.
That doesn’t work for the argument that she was pretending to officials that she wanted to move with Doug but was telling Doug no she wasn’t moving with him and didn’t want to work on the relationship. If she feared him, the lie would be spun the other way. That wasn’t the actions and words of a woman walking on eggshells.
Lolz! Taylor sooo wanted Eva’s phone to be “in the bushes” so her actions seemed nefarious & shady. I laughed at his tone w her in that ridiculous moment.
@@jillruben8924 Not at all serious with my coment. I just thought it was a comic relief moment among a very serious situation. Please dont read into it. Xo
10 to Life did a 1.5 hour podcast about this case, fairly represented both side in my opinion. Covers way more about the Ballet School and it appears she used him to try and start the school but bankrupt him in the process.
I saw something about this case a long time ago and he ended up spending all his money on her and then losing it all. From what I recall the evidence implied that she killed him but it has been long time.
All we have heard is from the prosecutor so far. A defendant is presumed innocent, until proven guilty. Waiting to hear from the defense. I don’t listen to alphabet “news”
I am shocked anyone believes it's normal behaviour for a man to still pursue a woman relentlesly after she has left him several times, tried to get a restraining order against him, and was moving out of state far from him. I'm also shocked anyone believes a "good man" brings a new wife without even telling his grieving daughter and is punching holes and shooting a gun inside the house. Anyone who says they would not fear their face ending up like that wall if he got "frustrated" enough is lying or has normalized VERY unhealthy behaviour.
It was Doug who punched their dog unconscious. It was Doug who fired a gun inside the house to silence Ashley. It was Doug who scammed the ballet company . All Ashley did was get scammed by an older man
55:35 Re: the emails/violation… the way I took it is that yes, the state initially gave them the discovery, the defense went through it, found what they were possibly going to admit as evidence & gave the state back the 384 pages/files & basically said "We're gonna use 3 of the emails that are somewhere within this HUGE pile of documents. You go though it & figure out which you think they are. Have fun!" - instead of saying "We're going to use the emails from File XYZ, Pages 4-7." Temper Tantrum Taylor knew exactly what he was doing & did it to be an a$$….. IMO.
I like this girl, the decedent's daughter. I feel sorry for her. Right or wrong I would still say that what she said was wrong but I still hope they show her compassion.
I agree. It's so refreshing that you're open minded and consider the evidence before rushing to judgement. Others were ready to burn her at the stake weeks ago.
PETER!! Can you please cover any future disciplinary actions taken against Kari Morrissey from the Alec Baldwin trial for her great prosecutorial misconduct. THANK YOU! Love your channel!!!
My gut says guilty. I don't buy her demeanor. Psycho. Also the cop had her number. She lost it when she didn't get her way. I am a DV survivor and I just don't buy it on this one. I would not have had so much contact w him and have him help w moving if I am scared of him.
I wanted contact with my abuser (anxious attachment) after the last instance and which he was charged and convicted for. I wasn't always scared of him. It's very complicated. I think people make too many assumptions about what they would/wouldn't do in an abusive situation.We are not all the same.
I agree. I'm a DV survivor and I would never be alone with my ex, let alone taunt him with an engagement ring. She manipulated him, got what she wanted and shot him
As a survivor of domestic abuse; I can tell you with 100% confidence that a short video of a couple seemingly getting along does not depict at all what goes on in the relationship. We are excellent at masking our grief and abuse in front of people we don't want to involve in our awful situation.
I can’t get over the defense saying in opening that they were arguing over whose items should go in the U-Haul first. That doesn’t track with them having separate U-Hauls. That is problematic to me. That argument was supposed to have started the fatal outcome.
I would vote for guilty at this point and here is why. She married him in 13 days; used his money to set up a ballet company; moved out to her mother's house as soon as she was pregnant; and he doesn't even know his daughter was born because she deliberately hid her from him. When he found out, they began to fight for the custody of the child, and all hell broke loose. She had accused Doug of being domestically violent toward her, poisoning her tea, and even SA their daughter, but after an extensive investigation, the family court determined that her allegations were unfounded. She LIED, making FALSE ACCUSATIONS against her partner, that is a fact. How can I trust her words if she was proven a LIAR without factual evidence that he is abusive towards her? There is no evidence that he is being abusive TOWARD her. On the contrary, we have the exact opposite by reading/watching their interaction in the text message/video. The last conversation they had was, Ashley invited him to come over and help moving, and he was shot to death. The defense argues that she IMMEDIATELY jumped out of the house, reached out to her neighbor, and called 911. Yet the dispatch officer said the body was cold to touch when they arrived at the scene. The ME said he was bleeding to death. The gunshot entry wounds are from the side of his right chest and the back of his calf, and he was at least 3 ft away. The defense keeps bringing up Doug's prior bad acts that have nothing to do with her. It's just like Johhny Depp tossed a bottle across the room that hit no one, slamming a bunch of cabinets violently; therefore, he is an abusive monster toward Amber Heard. Am I supposed to believe that? Where is the evidence that he abused Ashley that makes her fear for her life? People keep bringing up emotional and mental abuse, for which I don't see any evidence. Even if it's true, does it permit you to take someone's life? I am welcome the defense to change my mind but it ain't looking good for this lady.
Exactly i dont understand this case. Eva said she saw a bullet hole in the sealing and a hole in the dry wall. But she did not see it happen. So Asley could have also did it herself. And she invites him to the house. And send her mom and daughter to the parc. If you are so scarred why
If you have saw this trial from the beginning you would know he didn't have any many. He was much older than her, she was only 23. He admitted in text messages that he punched the dog, threw the cat, punched the walls, shoot the ceiling and threw a gun at her. There are several records of her calling the police, some with witnesses that he was stalking her. He put a tracking device in her car... And if you know anyone DV victims you would see that being " nice" is a placating move.
Being from a family with an abuser I can attest the abuser can be super charming & even funny in front of others & in public. You come to cherish those good times & fear the trigger moments. The Dr.Jekyll/Mr.Hyde personality does exist. The threats with gun shots & holes in the wall can happen….
It’s an emotional & psychological roller coaster life🎢
This mans state of mind ? ? Married a very young woman within 2 weeks of meeting her? Shooting his gun into the ceiling. Punching a hole in the wall ? These are true anger issues.
There are anger issues yes but no evidence he hit her. And what about her? She chose to marry this man after 12 days. Do we dismiss her actions as being an "emotionally vulnerable young woman"? He helped her pursue her dream to create a ballet company - she was getting what she wanted.
Do we know how their marriage came about - was it her initiation or his? He just lost his wife recently, he was a veteran and very likely had PTSD from his service making his emotional state potentially more difficult to manage. His prior DV history could have been related to his service, but he didn't hit her at least there is no record introduced at this point as I understand. Her "vulnerable and naive" DV victim defense is still suspect at this point - at least for me.
She was a gold digger who after she didn't get everything as a spoiled brat killed him the father of her child she wasn't a DV victim he was!
Lol hitting a wall he didn't do that to her she's a liar will be convicted
@@frsmith5069 I think it was reported the defense attorney stated she had a bruise on side of face or head!
She's an easy read manipulator, I have zero clue how she's done this too. I'm glad I have sixth sense of reading people like I can...he may have anger issues, but that doesn't even come CLOSE to saying he was an abuser! You wanna hear some things I say after the Chicago Bears lose. Him doing the things he did do shows short fuse and he needs to vent in other ways, but does not mean he's an abuser. She's the type to say certain things to him, but SHOW or even tell others different, she probably had him wound tighter than a clock and then with finding some of this stuff out and/or realizing it to himself. Which made him unspin FAST. He needed to realize that and vent anger in other ways, absolutely, but that doesn't mean he's an abuser
I’m so frustrated that people don’t understand what it feels like to be in a abusive situation. It looks happy in front of everyone but alone it is so bad.
It can also look happy because he believed it was. At best that argument just means we don’t know. But she has an affirmative defense to prove.
So no evidence of her being abused is evidence that she was being abused?? And everybody she knows saying that she appeared happy is proof that she was unhappy?? And war is peace, right?
Yes 🙌 this is what I’ve said .Only 1 of my friends knew what was going on and I hid it from everyone else until the day I was punched in the mouth and it was so swollen I couldn’t hide it .The constant threat of him killing himself if I left made me stay for months if not a year after I decided it was over 😢
Just hearing those messages from him and the frequency made me feel smothered! Coercive control in full swing!
And we are frustrated by people who claim to be with an abusive partner, yet never call the police, or do anything to remove themselves from said situation. It must be very frustrating to be with a partner who will claim abuse just because they lost an argument, or had to take some personal accountability, or they are just not getting their way and what they demand.
Equally, I am delighted that most don't understand. It would be a very sad world if they did, and seems to be an odd thing to call for.
The fact that there’s a reporter who went as far as to hire a lawyer and are following jurors is extremely concerning
I think he/she saw it in passing and asked their lawyer to convey for impartiality. I think it’s good really that those involved in the trial (especially a juror) are accountable because the media stuff could be so detrimental.
Peter, I just want to say, thank you. For not having a 20 min intro to your live streams and videos. And yes, I do just FF past the intro... or a nice short into like yours is awesome too 😃
Those intros are for premiere. I think Peter has then too. That's just UA-cam. They're not for live videos just for premièrs
Agree! I use to watch Bruce R but i got tired of fast forwarding
@@stephjovis3469 some creators have crazy long intros! "Clutch them pearls" is like 10 minutes!
@lr8189 Aww, I always sing along to CLR 😆
@@scrantonstrangler8301 but then the e sign form talk is a turn off 😂
My best friend for a decade was well known for being the nicest, most selfless guy anyone knew. I had never seen him angry before-until we started dating & living together in our mid/late 20s. I trusted him soooo much & yet I saw this side of him that was an angry & bitter drunk threatening to k*ll himself every other day. I had never seen this side of him for 10 years, through all his worst & best times! I had been in an abusive relationship about 5 years prior, so it not only shocked me but scared the shit out of me very quickly. and I was in my the best personal well-being of my life. that came crashing down sooo fast.
I’m really glad to be done with that chapter of my life, but it grew an even bigger pit in my stomach of “you don’t truly know someone EVER.“
sooo,you were driving that poor man crazy?
@@slanigrad what kind of comment is that. How is someone responsible for how a whole grown person behaves
@@slanigradimagine blaming someone else for the actions of an angry and aggressive drunk who could leave at anytime but probably didn’t because he needed daily support and assurance from his spouse.
🚩🚩🚩🚩@@slanigrad thanks for outting yourself
My ex left me for dead. I came up with the explanations we could give the doc for my injuries while on the way to the hospital. Afterwards there would be plenty of videos of me laughing with him, even having a nice time. That didn’t mean I wasn’t still scared of him, or that he wasn’t capable of killing me. Its called a mind fuck for a reason. Nothing about our behavior is going to be what you , who have never lived it, thinks it should. After I kicked my ex out, I still had him come over one night, and it was even nove seeing him. The next night I stayed up all night with his gun on my hip, terrified he was coming to kill me.
Truly there is NO WAY to know if she is telling the truth, but there are things pointing to him being threatening. I was the first woman he ever hit, then one night beat me and left for dead. He was an “amazing” man.
Abuse doesn’t have a one size fits all.
Your story sounds awfully familiar. My first cover story was I tripped and fell down two flights of stairs.... Did everyone else think he was just the greatest guy, too?
There has been nothing solid to prove or disprove he was violent, but what's been said so far sure fits the mold, imh opinion and experience.
I am very sorry this happened to you!! 🙏
Yes...thank you. My abuser (who also almost k*lled me) was such a "great guy". So funny and charming to everyone. Except when we got behind close doors. I never told a soul but he svrewed up and tried to k*ll us both in front of my grandmother.
Even after that his friends think he's such a great guy.
I’m sorry that must have been horrible because you know two different people the one that showed you love and care and then the other side. It’s hard to wrap one’s head around that and shut off love. I get so mad when ppl say it’s the persons fault for staying or whatever. No, they are abused.
Exactamundo
Glad judge addressed the juror in restaurant issue immediately. It was “nipped in the bud” so it’s not an issue later.
I recall in some high profile cases, lunch was provided to jurors because there was an instance where it was mentioned they requested better choices or something. For whatever reasons, jurors in this case go out to get their own lunches. Maybe that was a mistake if people in restaurants near the courthouse are talking about it. It seems to me to be an easily fixable problem: allow a delivery app or just have court employees go pick up “to go” orders to bring food orders to the jurors … and of course, I’m assuming jurors are provided a room or rooms to eat lunch.
Jurors are usually only provided lunch if they are sequestered during the trial or if they have begun deliberations. I had to leave the courthouse to get my own lunch both times that I served, both federal and state. I only remember having access to the jury room during deliberations or if we were sent out of the courtroom but not on recess but that probably varies.
@@laurabrooks9688 I understand that’s the way they do things; and most of the time, it probably works fine. But for these high profile cases where there are a lot of reporters and spectators every day in the gallery, it seems to me to be an easy precaution that would cost A LOT less than a mistrial would cost if too many jurors overheard too much at lunch. If it is a high profile, interesting case, it seems obvious that courtroom spectators would go to restaurants near the courthouse during lunch break and they’d be talking about what they just observed.
Ya, it's the jury room. That's where we had lunch brought to us.
Peter, I would love to watch a video about your time management! It's a mystery to me as well.
I think th high energy has something to do with it. It's attractive.
I'm glad somebody commented about how he initiated almost all of the texts and that she just gave short or emoji responses, I noticed that too... and yes, vey telling from a dv perspective. Hope the defense points that out in their closing and asks the jury to go back and look over those texts in that light.
The media rep with News 8 needs to stop approaching witnesses as soon as they come out of the courtroom. The media should learn the correct way to be a media rep. Because the way they are doing now is not good!!!
Do you know if the same reporter was involved in all three incidents or has the info about the restaurant reporter not been identified yet. I know it's barely been a day but I have a whole ocean in the way and don't know which media to check😅
Cohesive Control is a real abuse. When the person starts loosing control it becomes a very dangerous situation. Abuse isn't always being hit
Agreed!! This is a huge part of what I believe Ashley did to Doug
*Coercive
@@MayaGTKThe one losing control was Doug. She was the one leaving him (again) and he was the one following her, not the other way around.
@@fernandaolivares7926 yes abusers do desperate things when they lose control. There is a reason why leaving is the most dangerous part.
@@fernandaolivares7926she told the counselors she wasn’t staying with him but didn’t tell Doug, he wasn’t going to be living with them in MD he found his dream job and was going because she said they were reconciling
Thanks Peter for your unbiased coverage. You’re my go to Lawyer on YT
He's awesome!
My abuser killed one of my baby rabbits in front of me, skinned it, cooked it on the grill in front of me and made me eat it. Wa La not a bruise on me. But fear deeply instilled. His family thought the moon hung on him too, and so did his friends. You just never know how someone has been screwed in the mind
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Exactly - my ex would let me know that I better do this or better do that -- he would spit on me (we had 3 children) - if he would hit me - it was only on my back or top of my legs because no one would see it...but he was everyone's best buddy and I knew they would never believe me. I did finally get up the nerve to leave with the kids....and while he had visitation (he NEVER paid child support) - I get the kids all ready (they loved their Dad and I never talked back about him in front of them -same as he never abused me in front of them - until he did and that's when I left) - but they loved him and they would sit watching for him and he wouldn't show up... So yes, unless you have been there - you have no idea what is truly happening....her emails totally made me think she knows she better respond and keep it "nice" . . .
I would like to see the other messages the defense tried to get in!
and there is always a tipping point. They are always
conniving. Hope your safe now!
@@krisschobelock4973 Sorry to hear this. Be safe!
It sounds like they are saying the abuse was emotional/psychological and this was the first time it went physical. My ex was the same way, thankfully without access to a gun. It's scary to watch this person escalate and know help isn't coming - worse that people accuse you of being manipulative because there isn't "proof" - and the very quality of your life and the life of your children also depends on you behaving in a way that covers for scary behaviors done in private. It's scary when the people and organizations that are supposed to protect you don't act. I can see why she acted as she did. No one else was going to keep her safe, and his escalation could be deadly by the time someone pays attention
the most difficult thing I’ve had to do is take my emotions out of this trial. I would not want to be on the jury because of that, I started off thinking I could be objective and I realize that with any history you can’t be, or at least in my case.
Is sickening how abusers can be so sweet for long periods of time. They can just turn on a sec and it makes our mental state such s mess
Not every day is a DV day, the moods can change in a second.
Having been in an abusive marriage - that's what you do - you laugh - you keep everything "happy" to keep them happy!! They are like a light switch - say the wrong thing . . . and oh buddy . . . the other side comes out when least expected!! You can't judge without knowing what a relationship is like - So glad that Vermont changed their law for abused woman - in the Jennifer Dulos case - he didn't hit/beat her - so because there were no bruises/black eyes - there was no abuse!!! They now look at the psychological abuse...which is what I lived with -- I would pray he would just hit me and get it over with - after an hour of verbal abuse - spitting in my face - screaming in my face!! No bruises though!
Especially you do this when you're in fear and she had to accept the court ruling that he had custody rights.
@@cmaggior1exactly when she thought no one in power believed her the police were not believing her the judge in family court basically called her a lier what did everyone expect. Being in an abusive relationship I know how it is to put on a happy face in front of others as to not get in trouble when alone.
Yep, this was my life too.
Good for VT
Re-watch crew here- I love the suggestion to talk about time management during a members-only live!! Or maybe even day-in-the life type of rundown.
I lived through DV, and my mom was manipulative. I grew up believing my dad was evil, but after years later I realized now she provoked him
Same, seen my sister do it to her ex husband, and had my ex do it to me.
Yet so many who were victims of abuse automatically believe the woman was the victim jist because she says she was.
@@Tinmann_77 I have personally seen the same thing play out in the courts. It is chilling and frightening to see the destruction to the parent of false accusations in police reports, child abuse allegations, etc.
Did she ever have to shoot your dad dead while backed up into the corner of her bedroom, with no further place to run?
@@D64nz if you listen to some of her stories you'd think she had.... wouldn't be the truth though
Or maybe your mom became more noticeably manipulative in order to maintain peace & not have to walk on egg shells & subconsciously controlled when the eruptions would happen like EOD & controlled explosions
She was warned not to discuss this case, nit to use social media and she does it anyway.
Does FL not provide lunches for the jury?? Isn’t that one of the reasons they are normally provided lunch so they do not have to go into public places during lunch when the whole gallery is also out to lunch??
GOP are probably stealing all the money they used to use for this.
They do. The district I’m in takes the jurors to a restaurant as a group with a bailiff. They don’t go off by themselves. That’s really unusual
@@spoonlessvalkyrie7514yes it is very unusual, extremely unusual for them to be on their own to go get lunch. You generally get a $25 - $35 lunch ticket & it’s to a certain restaurant & within walking distance. However, they normally bring in the menus, every one chooses what they would like, it’s ordered & 1 person with a bailiff or court officer goes to pick it up, or the court has it delivered to a sequestered room. Seriously, I believe we’re going to have to begin sequestering the juries & keeping them all in one single hotel, and not allowing them to be in public, going home at night to their family; using their cell phones during the day, & keeping them logged in without any access to the YT & SM channels.
Can’t wait for the Sarah Boone video…
For cops, closer than 20 feet is a distance that justifies pulling the trigger because an assailant can close the distance so fast.
Also, if you say the word "fentanyl" out loud in a closed room, a cop can OD on it like 3 days later...
Yes but how many houses have 20ft line of sight from a person threatening you? Not many. She’s also not a cop and many cops misjudge threats even with training until the person is in their personal space.
Law is different for a police officer
It is 21 feet , not 20 , in the well not paper development by an expert in Utah. This is why we have 7 yard targets. Close up distance is 21 feet..the paper is available on the web
She is not a cop.
Abusive people can hide their behaviors in public.People never know.Also,it’s a cycle of abuse where the abuser is nice, things are good, then flips, then is nice, things are good, then flips. The victim hangs on that hope each time that they have rehabilitated and tries to enjoy the good times but the cycle continues- not saying this is the case but I lived this and then the last flip becomes the most dangerous one totally unexpected. I don’t know this case very well but people don’t know what really goes on inside a home.
I thought the exact same thing - he initiated all the texts and she responded
To avoid issues why don’t they just supply lunches for jurors and have them stay in the courthouse, in a separate area?
They do in other Circuits. I’m sure it is a budget cut issue.
I’m a court clerk and that is exactly what we do in our district. They also get doughnuts, fruit, candy, drinks and we try to accommodate any special requests. Love my job!
many other courts do, it’s dependent on jurisdiction based on budgets & sometimes length of trial (could be applicable here as well)
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The reporter wasn't supposed to be in the courthouse soliciting interviews. He-She was reminded of the courthouse policy.
I agree that reporter is not doing his job correctly. I think they should have banned him from covering the trial
@@lacylnn1981 Yeah. Idk of he was reprimanded. I hope so. Policies are in place for a reason. Poor Eva was stressed enough already.😒
The judge said the media relations person has to remind the media of the rules.
@@stephjovis3469 Got it. Thx for info😊
@@lacylnn1981 the reporter thought it was funny 😡
Love your coverage on this case Peter, I like that you explain everything and give us your thoughts as a jury member!
I have been using “Nothing Burger” in my everyday verbiage.
Makes sense, that's exactly what the prosecutor has served up!
Senator Lindsey Graham has used that phrase since 2016. He was the first person I've heard say it.
Thank you Peter for continuing to recap this trial with all of us! 💗 I always learn so much from your livestreams and videos. This is hands down my favorite channel on YT and I love the CYK just as much as I love the LYK! 🫶🏽
Always appreciate your recaps!! You & Emily D. Baker are the best reasonable & unbiased lawyers on UA-cam. Really appreciate it as I’ll be in law student soon! (Kinda reminds me of how my more beloved law professors would comment if they did UA-cam lol. Educational, makes you think, unbiased, real-world knowledge, standing on fundamental rights even if it’s “unpopular”)
I also love the way brother counsil recaps the trial. Maybe watch his channel sometimes
The gun that Ashley Used to defend herself is a Springfield XD in .45 ACP.. this gun does not have a manual safety that you can toggle on or off. It has a grip safety, a safety in the trigger and it has a safety that blocks the firing pin if it were to be dropped on the ground. As soon as you pick this up with a firm grip and pull the trigger it will fire instantly. There's no preparing it or getting it ready. Somebody talked about that in the live chat today and it was incorrect.
Yup, just like a Glock.
She was a gun lover. She knew all that then right?
They both had gun licences to carry concealed. He could easily have been carrying a concealed gun. It was self defence.
@@1525ismdimwitted,as expected...
@@1525ism Doug was NOT armed when he went over to help Ashley move... AT. HER. REQUEST. She gaslit him into believing they were all moving to Maryland and reconciling.
I mean seriously, just look at the chain of text messages between Doug & Ashley in the days leading up to the homicide.
Thank you so very much especially non biased as best any human can thank you 🙏🇵🇸❤️
I feel deeply for Eva. She obviously is intelligent and a survivor. I admire Eva.
I didn’t watch the live chat replay, but from what you gathered from live chat and what appeared on screen; I agree with CYK on this one. I shudder to vote on this poll at this point. Do I feel satisfied with the state’s case? No. Does that force my hand to vote NG? I gueessss? Do I feel good about it? No. There is SO much lacking in the state’s case - in fact the opposite. It is THEIR professional witnesses who testified to Doug’s previous violent acts. What are we spose to do with that? I really think we need to hear the entire case, down to rebuttal on this one. Overall, unimpressed with the prosecution of this case.
This is a self defense case meaning they only need prove she killed him. They proved that. Now it is on THE DEFENSE to prove it was justified. People that are saying the state didn’t prove their case seam to think she has a presumption of self defense simply claiming it and the pros has to disprove it. Not the case.
What you do is believe that he was proven violent and that she was abused and did her very best to escape . Whether she planned to shoot him as a last resort or was terrified can not be proven . Benefit of the doubt = NG .
@@BlackStump172 I think she overreacted and that deadly force was not her only resort in this situation. She ended a life. I saw no tangible evidence he ever threatened to end hers.
I grew up in a DV household. It was physical twice but was mostly mental and emotional. I feared for my life many times as did one parent. The other parent played the great game with everyone. They all thought this person was a great parent and partner. Not one person knew what was happening. You have to play the game to appease the abuser. I am waiting for the defense case but I don't not believe at this point there was DV.
I'm waiting for the defense case to proof anything. They both like guns and in every damn American movie someone punched holes in walls.
She moved away she lived with her mum not him. She didn't have to let him in all the time. I don't buy the she wanted sole custody she's manipuled him stuff either. Idk guns are just the worst
You state, "Not one person knew what was happening" yet YOU assume it didn't happen to her? Wtf? Seriously. How about the punch holes in the walls and the gun shot in the ceiling? That's not reason to question his inability to control his anger?
@@DOLfirstI thought just that ☝🏼
How can you say you don’t believe someone when been through it yourself ?
@@DOLfirstyou misread my comment. I said I don't not believe she's a victim. Meaning I believe she is a victim of dv. I don't believe the state proved their case but I always wait until the end of testimony to make a decision.
Well I watched her interview today and I tell you it almost made me change my mind about what I thought originally.
Just popping in to keep it light & say: thanks for your insight,,, & also, you look MAHVALOUS tonight 😎
Yes yes YESSSSS! Your daily time management tips PLEASE!!!
In Utah they added to the law to caution police against making quick assumptions about abuse because it appears the other person is the violent one. This was after the gabby petito case. They thought she was the abuser and she ended up getting killed. Criminal lawyers and police officers should have to take classes to learn how to better understand and identify abuse.
The fact that you called that section “oops glitching” is hilarious! 😂
My ex was so violent with me, kicked holes in doors, drove dangerously, punched holes in door next to my face, spit in my face, and blew up in a rage weekly over nothing.
I only deescalated, and never retaliated for fear of broken bones, it only happened to me, and they were calm and happy toward everyone else, at work an angel.
I left, but right before is when they hit my face 25 times, trapped me in my room, someone called cops, they got off me, after biting my finger till it bled, and ripping my hair out, and spitting in my face and shouted at me to leave or I was going off to jail.
I still moved away a week later, then filed a police report, got restraining order, they had 52 week batterers course ordered and were reprimanded in court by judge.
I honestly went through hell with police getting my report, being asked why didn't I report sooner, when statute of limitations is 5 years. If my face wasn't deeply bruised for a month, I think noone would believe me. Its so hard because just thinking of the violent reactions to going to a hearing to get the rrsttaining order is reliving the worst fear of their violence. Someone shouting, throwing things, pulling you by the hair, shoving you, accusing you daily of things, highly jealous when completely unfounded, but they flirt, cheat, ignore you is psychological threats.
DV is a pattern, and this person had been doing this to their partners for 40 years, but I never would have expected it until it happened in my rel, after the first week, gtadually got worse and worse till I got out...
Y do u people keep writing what happened to u ? I guess if u think it happened to u she’s innocent it had to happen to her? If y’all can’t see how biased this is I’m literally shocked
Absolutely that's abuse. I'm sorry you went through it. My sister married a guy like that.
But so far I haven't heard evidence go that. Only her lawyers talking
@@MriahT-jt6ufsometimes people are just sharing their stories based on the subject being talked about. If you’re not interested, just keep scrolling.
@@MriahT-jt6uf no comment, if you know, you know
@@maytheforcebewithyou4313 I do know I just choose not to take 10+ minutes writing it when half of u claim u need a mental institution if u even think about it. Definitely been abused by parents siblings significant others. I guess not all ppl built the same
I've been watching the trial itself elsewhere, but I love coming back to your recaps because this is a Florida case and you are a Florida attorney. A lot of other chats are so incredibly toxic about abuse/DV and victims. Regardless of whether or not you believe Ashley to be one, plenty are who have stories eerily similar to their own lives and its incredibly painful to watch chats devolve around generalizations about abuse victims.
The guy was 54 when he died. That's not young at all. He has an adult daughter. Is there any details about how he conducted himself in previous relationships? Surely there would be some clues to his abusive violent nature? It would be odd to begin that behavior in your 50's if you hadn't been abusively violent before.
I find it scary that a woman can shoot a man, and then the community sees it that HE has to prove he wasn't violent, rather than HER having to prove that he was. Let's not forget that previous courts have ruled her to be untrustworthy. She even tried to say he was sexually abusive to his kid, and the court threw it out.
Watching live each day with RA then getting Peters opinion after. For those who want to know what the daughters TikTok posts were after she was on the stand, RA looked them up almost immediately and told us what they said/were about. I’m still torn at this point. Hearing some of the stuff the defense has tried to get in, but judge won’t allow seems she may have been the victim of DV. I had a past partner that was controlling so I get “go along get along” mentality. I can see Ashley playing nice over texts to just keep the peace while telling others she was done. Long story short I’m not convinced one way or another yet. I have however learned so much during this trial with the judge making so many decision on camera with the jury excused. I absolutely love this judge, don’t agree with all his rulings but still love him.
Ok so I was thinking correctly. The daughter has been making tik toks saying that her dad was murdered for no good reason and that this woman was awful. But then the trial shows that he obviously had aggressive scary behavior. This is a hard one
That's the same daughter that her father didn't respect her enough to tell her before he moved a complete stranger new wife into the home with her. It's the same daughter that said yes she knew how the bullet hole got in the kitchen roof and the fist punch hole in the kitchen wall. So I don't believe she didn't know about her father's temper. But afyer he died it's easy to forget all that and all of a sudden this man was such a saint. My ex was violent behind closed doors, his family knew, but when he died he suddenly became this holier than now saint.
@@mandystone3005Perhaps she is enjoying the attention and the vulnerable position of the defendant who was the interloper into her home . Revenge feels good .
@BlackStump172 Don't get me wrong I have understanding that she was not happy to have this women in her recently deceased moms house, she was a child then but now at 24, the age AB was when she moved in, I think she can look back and see that her father did that. AB was not just someone that walked in off the street and forced her and her dad to let her live there, her father did that and just told her afterwards. Even that shows that he was controlling and did what he wanted because no one else's opinion mattered. His daughter said that in those first months she moved in her friend as well. Now imagine you're AB and the daughter hates you and then another teenager moves in without you having any say. I bet you the 2 of them did what teenagers did to the wicked unwanted stepmother and ganged up on her. The daughter in her Tik Tok said she was a complete brat because she hated having AB in her mom's house.
Watching this trial live with Melanie Little. Loving the recap bc im trying to wotk during day and miss a lot!
I am glad there are a lot of people have never lived in fear & actress you become to hide it from everyone. I could feel fear & she knows the triggers.
How come it could not be the Swan mentally abusing Doug. Sociopathic behavior would cause a sane person to act in a manner that is not normally their behavior.
Yes
He punched out his dog, shot off a gun inside because he was angry, and punched holes in the wall.
PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR! What you're talking about is classic blaming the victim!
@@tracyholden5787yes, people are responsible for their own behaviour but there is such a thing as reactive violence. I know someone and his ex would push and push, phone the police and they would turn up just in time for him to react back while she acted all sweet and innocent.
We have no idea if that happened in this case because Doug isn't here to tell his side of things. IMO this is probably what happened but I have nothing but a gut feeling and bits of evidence
@@tracyholden5787Exactly ! Those actions are violent and frightening . Why are people ignoring that ?
@@tracyholden5787 you do realize he never hit her though. If you’ve even been around a sociopathic woman a man can be brought to act out due to the consistent push and pull mental and phycological abuse they do to their victims.
At this point it seems there is reasonable doubt.
It's been a while since the Depp trial - still my go to for recaps
No, the state has not proven their theory of the case.
Yes, they totally failed to bring the receipts for what they are claiming.
Sadly, a lot of people really struggle with the concept of innocent until proven guilty.
New member today! Considering how much I watch your shows, it was time to make it official!
Her Tik Tok said something about testifying on live tv with your crush watching back home.
Wtf?
Poor thing. She’s just doing everything to be a normal teenage girl. For those who feel she doesn’t care it’s not that at all. It’s too much right now with being a teenager in high school believe me she’s not getting away with going through anything. It will hit her and her true adult hood life and then there she will deal with it.
@@rainbowinthedark453I’m pretty sure she’s 23…
@@emmaleighgilbert3679or 24
@@rainbowinthedark453She's 23, but does come across a bit immature. I feel bad for her losing both her parents so close together. She's had it rough.
I've lived through a very similar situation. My parents, I lived day in and out for 18 years. I wish so bad I could explain. My dad acted out very similar but it was out if frustration
Great recaps. Ty. Im also glad this trial is moving quickly.
Reporters need to back down and refrain from trying to get a headline story knowing that they are going against the judge’s orders of sequestration and putting the witnesses in jeopardy. Nothing but vultures.
How about his former attorney that testifies yesterday and went straight to a Court TV interview
@@B_BodziakDid she ? She was still under oath .
they have said multiple times that eva is allowed in the courtroom because of Marcie Law
My heart breaks for the daughter 💔 my gawd her mom died and her father was murdered! She has every right to be distressed an speak her truth! The defense attorney is a joke !
agreed, that girl has gone through the ringer :(
The proof decent people still exist.
Hate people making rude comments about her with smiley faces.
People shouldn’t judge the daughter but the defendant deserves a fair trial.
@@Cowgirl_Sally Thank you. I completely agree about the daughter. I also know my ex NEVER touched me in front of his kids. Didn't mean my ribs were any less broken.
#1- Re: Eva… she stated she only briefly spoke about her EMOTIONS, not the trial, with the reporter & posting a tiktok video ISN’T violating the admonition bc once again, she isn’t conversing with others about the trial… she was posting her thoughts & feelings. Now if a juror/witness watched it, THATS a violation against the juror or other witness.
Do you really think she didn't watch the videos in her feed nor anything else pertaining to this trial if she took the time to post 3 TikTok videos? She's 23yo. This trial is going to be a week not 3 months If courts just start allowing this type of action, the line gets more blurred.
I paid attention when the judge read the instructions to the next witness and she was right. Ashley and her lawyer are obsessed with her. I’ve never seen a defense that attacks victims and the jurors see that ok. If they call her again, that won’t go well. Still in the afternoon the lawyer kept asking for sanctions, disgusting, even the judge told him he is in a fishing expedition.
@@lhr8833 did you not watch the Karen Read trial? The defense attacked everyone.
@@Kkay2490 Apparently you are the one that didn’t watch. The defense didn’t even cross the family and friends that were not in the house. The “friends” that are framing her deserved being exposed. Actually, even one of the main witnesses, since she didn’t seem like faking anything in the stand, they didn’t cross her, Kary. You should go and rewatch.
@@lhr8833😂 kr is the only 1 responsible for John's death. She was the obsessed , aggressive and abusive drunk that decided to drive and back in to John.
Love this judge he is no nonsense
I heard about a story in Vanity Fair called "when Doug snd Ashley Benefield started a ballet co, it wasn't suppose to end in death". It's next on my must read list!
"The point is, BEAT INTO HER...okay, nevermind, poor choice of words."
😂😂 OMG, Peter, NOO!!
I laughed a little too loudly. 😊
Doesn't seem odd to me that the defense attorney wants to know what was posted.
My problem is The Police & The Child Protection didn't take her problems seriously, so to me that makes the Defenses Case Stronger, cause No one was helping her deal with his threats & antics.
The State didn’t prove their case to me. The text messages showed her placating him and keeping the peace throughout Doug’s incessant communication. Am looking forward to the Defence case.
Thanking you Peter as always for your fair and unbiased coverage!😊🙏
At this point ... as a juror and DV survivor - I haven't seen anything that I wouldn't have done ...
I'm UK so no g*n. And when I left 2nd time round I had my cousin with me on moving day - no way would I be alone for that because I have no idea how he'd have reacted. Everyone knew I was leaving including him, either the kids were there and he wouldn't do anything excessive around them, he was in work so we were never alone together.
Still no-one knew how bad it was. She had already left, yet he still seemed to be injecting himself in her life. Imo she did what she had to, to remain safe, and keep the child safe, to the point of allowing him to believe he had some control of the situation.
Imo Ashley is a sociopath &/or a psychopath. They were a very dysfunctional couple to say the least. I'm very curious about Ashley & Doug's psychiatric evaluations.
Same
She just seems like a typical manipulator to me. And it seems that she gets very angry when people don’t buy into her lies.
Ashley lived in fear. He was totally manipulative and she was trapped. Self defence
@@1525ism I respectfully disagree with you.⚖️
@@1525ism How was she trapped? They hadn't lived together for years, most of their marriage. They were both moving, but not in together. She may not have liked him, but she was, and had been in a position to avoid him.
Makes me very uncomfortable that a lawyer who is defending a victim of domestic abuse is fighting to stop her having a voice about whether she was coerced or forced into her decision about taking the stand.
I appreciate what you do and your approach so much more, after watching Melanie Little and her undeniable support for the defendant. She has turn her chat to a DV support group. 😩
I don’t think that is true!
I agree with you 💯!!! I used to watch ML quite a bit but the last couple of days she’s been really biased and the chat has been nothing more than people assuming she’s a DV victim without any proof and turning it into a one sided DV advocate group for AB. The amber heard trial should at least be a caution for this kind of thing.
And the chat trashing Eva this morning was disgusting.
I was also looking for a sane place to watch this trial. But after checking multiple streams, decided I have to stay out of the chats. It’s a circus.
People def made their minds up before trial and it’s difficult to have a discussion with that mindset. If you don’t believe everything she says then “you clearly haven’t survived DV” and “obviously” don’t know what you’re talking about.
Peeps gotta do better self care: take a deep breath, pop out of chat, pause the video and do a little yoga or boxing!
I do come here for Ps perspective, but it is the one time I really wish he could live stream a trial!
@@sidewayssitter I’m 100% with you. I love when they come with, but she was abandoned by her dad, or she lived the DV, you don’t know what is that. Sadly, I know how to recognize physical abandonment, emotional abandonment, DV and emotional abse, because that was my bread and butter growing up. Precisely because I know how to recognize those things, is why I think some of her stories don’t check. Also as a person that lived those things, I would never mistreat a child that has a huge abandonment trauma because she lost her mom and then her dad was emotionally detach enough to marry in secret. That poor child was fully abandoned and she decided to declare war to her. The way she talks about, Eva, how she treated her and even how she is allowing her to be used in this trial, lets me know that she is not reacting like a survivor because usually survivors protect children. Most victims I know that have kids protect those kids from everything, this woman is using a 6 yrs old child to do a pity campaign out of the court, in the trial about her mom unaliving her dad. I think he was problematic, but she is an abser too. I cannot see the red flags and because of some survivors allegiance decide to be blind about it and say “Ohh poor Ashley”.
Love LYK coverage. The best!!
I see all the comments arguing whether Ashley’s behaviour, words, actions, tone, facial expressions etc. are indicative of her being a DV victim trying to survive vs a manipulative liar trying to cover up her guilt. But for me, I’m not overly interested in digging into that, at this point. That’s simply because, for me, I can be 100% convinced a person is guilty, and would still feel compelled to vote not guilty if the state had not met their burden of proof. And personally, I don’t feel the prosecution have done that.
They put forward a motive - the imminent release of the psych assessments - that they didn’t prove beyond reasonable doubt, and that their own witnesses cast doubt on.
They knew, from the 911 call that Ashley claimed it was self defense, but provided no meaningful evidence to counter that claim.
And their own witnesses were the ones who testified to things like bullet holes in the ceiling, and fist marks in the walls with no credible suggestion that they were caused by anyone but Doug during violent outbursts.
Do I think it’s possible that Ashley is a manipulative liar who murdered her husband to keep her baby from him, and tried to pass that murder off as self defense? Definitely I think that’s possible.
But have the state proven that beyond a reasonable doubt? Definitely not. I don’t think they have done enough to show motive, and to rule out self defense. May they get there on rebuttal? It’s possible I suppose, but at this point, it’s a very big ask, in my opinion.
Day 4. I believe her and I would vote NOT GUILTY. It brought back being abused myself.
Her TikToks had nothing to do with the case. Two were about her business and one was thanking people for their support.
If you’re afraid then yes you would try to keep that person happy even though you’re terrified. She was trying to figure out how to be safe
That doesn’t work for the argument that she was pretending to officials that she wanted to move with Doug but was telling Doug no she wasn’t moving with him and didn’t want to work on the relationship.
If she feared him, the lie would be spun the other way.
That wasn’t the actions and words of a woman walking on eggshells.
It seems the state hasn’t done a very good job of informing and instructing their witnesses about the rules.
Thank you Peter!!
Yes, her phone is in the bushes. 😂
It was on the bench.
Be grateful you haven’t endured what she has at 20.
What’s so funny?
Lolz! Taylor sooo wanted Eva’s phone to be “in the bushes” so her actions seemed nefarious & shady. I laughed at his tone w her in that ridiculous moment.
@@jillruben8924What's funny is the defense attorney asking if her phone was in the bushes, it's nothing against Eva
@@KnottyTara143I think he's just old and couldn't hear her well lol
@@jillruben8924 Not at all serious with my coment. I just thought it was a comic relief moment among a very serious situation. Please dont read into it. Xo
10 to Life did a 1.5 hour podcast about this case, fairly represented both side in my opinion. Covers way more about the Ballet School and it appears she used him to try and start the school but bankrupt him in the process.
I saw something about this case a long time ago and he ended up spending all his money on her and then losing it all. From what I recall the evidence implied that she killed him but it has been long time.
Sorry I missed this yesterday.!
I'm in utter shock that people believe Ashley after everything she's done all her lies and sneaky sh$t. It's shocking ,poor Doug
All we have heard is from the prosecutor so far. A defendant is presumed innocent, until proven guilty. Waiting to hear from the defense. I don’t listen to alphabet “news”
I am shocked anyone believes it's normal behaviour for a man to still pursue a woman relentlesly after she has left him several times, tried to get a restraining order against him, and was moving out of state far from him.
I'm also shocked anyone believes a "good man" brings a new wife without even telling his grieving daughter and is punching holes and shooting a gun inside the house.
Anyone who says they would not fear their face ending up like that wall if he got "frustrated" enough is lying or has normalized VERY unhealthy behaviour.
@fernandaolivares7926 you clearly know very little about this case ,because what you're saying isn't even factual.
@@fernandaolivares7926 I'm shocked you can make statements like you made without knowing facts
It was Doug who punched their dog unconscious. It was Doug who fired a gun inside the house to silence Ashley. It was Doug who scammed the ballet company . All Ashley did was get scammed by an older man
Love the Judge!!
Dateline has a good episode on this. Ashley was quite calculating
55:35 Re: the emails/violation… the way I took it is that yes, the state initially gave them the discovery, the defense went through it, found what they were possibly going to admit as evidence & gave the state back the 384 pages/files & basically said "We're gonna use 3 of the emails that are somewhere within this HUGE pile of documents. You go though it & figure out which you think they are. Have fun!" - instead of saying "We're going to use the emails from File XYZ, Pages 4-7." Temper Tantrum Taylor knew exactly what he was doing & did it to be an a$$….. IMO.
I like this girl, the decedent's daughter. I feel sorry for her. Right or wrong I would still say that what she said was wrong but I still hope they show her compassion.
Thank you for helping us to understand the law. In my next life I am going to be a prosecutor.
I started out thinking she was guilty but after today I haven't seen any evidence that she is guilty. Looking forward to defense case.
Same
I agree. It's so refreshing that you're open minded and consider the evidence before rushing to judgement. Others were ready to burn her at the stake weeks ago.
@SydneyCollin What we need to remember is the state needs to prove she is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and I don't believe they have.
@@kathleenromo7511 I agree.
PETER!! Can you please cover any future disciplinary actions taken against Kari Morrissey from the Alec Baldwin trial for her great prosecutorial misconduct. THANK YOU! Love your channel!!!
your coveragd is quite different from all the other channels-it is almost like a different trial
My gut says guilty. I don't buy her demeanor. Psycho. Also the cop had her number. She lost it when she didn't get her way. I am a DV survivor and I just don't buy it on this one. I would not have had so much contact w him and have him help w moving if I am scared of him.
I agree, I dont believe her....my daughter was a dv victim & this woman is not a victim. She wanted him out of her & her child's lives
Agree
I agree I believe she is guilty but I also agree that State has not proven beyond reasonable doubt.
I wanted contact with my abuser (anxious attachment) after the last instance and which he was charged and convicted for. I wasn't always scared of him. It's very complicated. I think people make too many assumptions about what they would/wouldn't do in an abusive situation.We are not all the same.
I agree. I'm a DV survivor and I would never be alone with my ex, let alone taunt him with an engagement ring. She manipulated him, got what she wanted and shot him
As a survivor of domestic abuse; I can tell you with 100% confidence that a short video of a couple seemingly getting along does not depict at all what goes on in the relationship.
We are excellent at masking our grief and abuse in front of people we don't want to involve in our awful situation.
if she was abused or even struck she can blow him away?
@@wernerfoerster3666 ... what?
@@trishhertslet2103
What do you think is required before she can justifiably shoot the man down?
@@wernerfoerster3666 where do I mention anyone shooting someone?
@@trishhertslet2103
... Ummm, I though we were talking about this case ...(not about you)
We sort of joke about social media being addictive. I think is is an example of the addiction.
I can’t get over the defense saying in opening that they were arguing over whose items should go in the U-Haul first. That doesn’t track with them having separate U-Hauls. That is problematic to me. That argument was supposed to have started the fatal outcome.
I would vote for guilty at this point and here is why.
She married him in 13 days; used his money to set up a ballet company; moved out to her mother's house as soon as she was pregnant; and he doesn't even know his daughter was born because she deliberately hid her from him. When he found out, they began to fight for the custody of the child, and all hell broke loose.
She had accused Doug of being domestically violent toward her, poisoning her tea, and even SA their daughter, but after an extensive investigation, the family court determined that her allegations were unfounded. She LIED, making FALSE ACCUSATIONS against her partner, that is a fact. How can I trust her words if she was proven a LIAR without factual evidence that he is abusive towards her?
There is no evidence that he is being abusive TOWARD her. On the contrary, we have the exact opposite by reading/watching their interaction in the text message/video. The last conversation they had was, Ashley invited him to come over and help moving, and he was shot to death.
The defense argues that she IMMEDIATELY jumped out of the house, reached out to her neighbor, and called 911. Yet the dispatch officer said the body was cold to touch when they arrived at the scene. The ME said he was bleeding to death. The gunshot entry wounds are from the side of his right chest and the back of his calf, and he was at least 3 ft away.
The defense keeps bringing up Doug's prior bad acts that have nothing to do with her. It's just like Johhny Depp tossed a bottle across the room that hit no one, slamming a bunch of cabinets violently; therefore, he is an abusive monster toward Amber Heard. Am I supposed to believe that? Where is the evidence that he abused Ashley that makes her fear for her life?
People keep bringing up emotional and mental abuse, for which I don't see any evidence. Even if it's true, does it permit you to take someone's life?
I am welcome the defense to change my mind but it ain't looking good for this lady.
Thank you for being so thorough. Very well put.
Exactly i dont understand this case. Eva said she saw a bullet hole in the sealing and a hole in the dry wall. But she did not see it happen. So Asley could have also did it herself. And she invites him to the house. And send her mom and daughter to the parc. If you are so scarred why
I agree with you 💯 she also taunted him with the engagement ring. You don't do that if you're scared
If you have saw this trial from the beginning you would know he didn't have any many. He was much older than her, she was only 23. He admitted in text messages that he punched the dog, threw the cat, punched the walls, shoot the ceiling and threw a gun at her. There are several records of her calling the police, some with witnesses that he was stalking her. He put a tracking device in her car... And if you know anyone DV victims you would see that being " nice" is a placating move.
@@penelopeoliveira3812 thank you for your ancer. I did not see that than it makes sense