How to Butt Weld Sheet Metal 🔥 (the right way vs the wrong way)

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  • @dreemz57
    @dreemz57 2 роки тому +12

    Thankyou im 65 and this old dog just learned a new trick!

  • @bkon4675
    @bkon4675 Рік тому +13

    So I've watched a half dozen others demos welding sheet metal, and Chad is the only one explaining how and why it's necessary to have the gap. I'm probably twice Chad's age, and in another life, I did body work, a lot of brazing, and lead metal finishing. Wire feed wasn't a thing, yet or it wasn't in common use for sheet metal. Got a project coming up .This is going to help a lot!!

  • @spanionneo
    @spanionneo 7 місяців тому +39

    Best demonstration of why the gap is better. Thank you !

  • @elcukro
    @elcukro Рік тому +30

    Chad thank you for going to this level of detail with simple and no-bs explanations. Great content as per usual

  • @williamburdon6993
    @williamburdon6993 2 роки тому +25

    Jolene is actually a fine welder, it's amazing how good of a job she does with so little actual hands on experience. Well done Jolene .

  • @99kevin99
    @99kevin99 6 місяців тому +14

    An artist discussing his art and educating the next generation...nothing finer!

  • @austincrowley1228
    @austincrowley1228 2 роки тому +30

    chad is a great teacher always explains why he does things the way he does

  • @queenie7434
    @queenie7434 2 роки тому +7

    Hi Chad and Jolene. I watch with my husband daily. It's great that you show your own HUMANITY to us all and that everyone makes mistakes and your WILLENESS to show COMPASSION to your friends your love for Jolene and the PASSION to learn and let us all share the processes of your thoughts that make your build so interesting and keep us watching daily. Keep up the GREAT work.

  • @bugman72
    @bugman72 2 роки тому +16

    I've posted this several times before, but watching Chad's videos has given me a great deal of confidence and insight into my own projects. And Jim said it perfectly in the last video...people can become experts without lifting a hand by watching Chad's videos. :) We are in the process of putting hood scoops from a 94-96 Firebird into a '93 Chevy truck hood and this video is very helpful in seeing just how beneficial having the gap is to get good weld penetration.

  • @168charger
    @168charger 4 місяці тому +3

    Thx Chad. Always wrenched on cars since I was 15. Just took up welding now. I'm 64. (Always learning) Very informative vid.

  • @chikokishi7030
    @chikokishi7030 2 місяці тому +1

    I love the joleen compliments. Makes the video feel so wholesome. You can tell that even when focused on something, shes still on his mind.

  • @Luke-u9r
    @Luke-u9r Місяць тому +3

    Came here for a small welding tip and now i'm here for life

  • @michaelhartman7375
    @michaelhartman7375 54 хвилини тому

    Thank you for sharing your skills and knowledge. Explaining "why" helps me understand "how" much better.

  • @dwaynechatman8655
    @dwaynechatman8655 9 місяців тому +2

    as a new welder/ car customizer, you my brother, have explained exactly how i need to sort my shit out. i have a ton of rust i need to replace with good sheet. but you have made it a ton easier, i feel so much more confident in this process...

  • @kwikslvr73
    @kwikslvr73 2 роки тому +9

    Thanks for taking the time to show us all you do

  • @paullydca
    @paullydca 2 роки тому +6

    Super helpful thank you!!!! This explains so much of why my welds fail as well looking chunky. Heading toward rust repairs on my jeep this spring, I'm making my patches and putting a gap in now. Game changing tip!

  • @garyhelms1889
    @garyhelms1889 6 місяців тому +3

    20 seconds after watching another video by another shop guy I started this video.
    In his video he demonstrated putting in a patch panel where a side marker was on an old Chevy truck. Butt welded that is. Of course he recommended getting the fit as tight as possible. Now I watch this video where a gap is recommended with the demonstration as to why. I' m about to buy a welder and start learning. After this video I'll leave a gap.

  • @garybarry4446
    @garybarry4446 2 роки тому +3

    Love your teaching this way so all can learn these simple techniques

  • @glennfaulds4665
    @glennfaulds4665 5 місяців тому +2

    The two of you are very very talented and very informative down to earth people. Thanks Glenn

  • @ka4hpy
    @ka4hpy 2 роки тому +5

    Great information, Chad. Wish I had a teacher like you when I got started back in 1970... retired now...enjoy your work!

  • @charlielemmons5525
    @charlielemmons5525 2 роки тому +4

    Great to see Queen Jolene welding today. The cover for the console turned out awesome. Can't wait to see it painted.

    • @velixzeen
      @velixzeen 4 місяці тому

      I'm wondering if it is painted and will search for it.

  • @ronaldsteveson76
    @ronaldsteveson76 11 місяців тому +2

    Never been the biggest fan of the "Custom" scene but you sir are a great teacher and master at fabrication 😎👍

    • @billquantrill4960
      @billquantrill4960 11 місяців тому +2

      Same here, in fact I'm a "bone stock" fudd, but I admire the fabrication skills and knowledge sharing. Good suff.

  • @ToastyToastiness-z3x
    @ToastyToastiness-z3x 3 місяці тому

    This is great, I'm glad I watched this. I'm literally welding a patch panel on my car this weekend, and I was literally planning to have no gap because I thought it might be easier and cleaner. But this shows all the reason to have a small gap. Thank you

  • @Keixer
    @Keixer 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video. I am in my 50’s and took an adult welding class. Have been having a lot of fun. I have made some trophies for some local car shows. I have wasted a lot of time re-welding after grinding things smooth and having the joint pop apart. I will be leaving that gap in the next few models I make. You have potential saved me hours of work. Thanks.

  • @RaulRodriguez-m1r
    @RaulRodriguez-m1r 6 місяців тому +9

    Best welding teacher ive seen explains everything

  • @elwyns2258
    @elwyns2258 10 днів тому

    Love the way you explain stuff so all people will be able to understand. Usually just watch what you're building, very unique vehicles. Job well done. Liked seeing Jolene at the World of Wheels in Winnipeg MB, just a gorgeous women.

  • @andyallgood7307
    @andyallgood7307 Рік тому

    I’m 68 and have just welded two pieces of scrap metal with my new mig welder. I’ll be replacing the front lower fenders(rusted out) on my 72 C20 soon. I’m confident the replacements will look beautiful by following your tips of the trade. LMC provided the bottom pieces for each side and by leaving a gap and clamping them, going slowly, cooling as I go I’ll be successful. I’m excited even though the finished product will actually be hidden behind the front bumper haha! Closing holes in the doors on each side 1/2-3/4” from towing mirrors is next on the list, I look forward to your help. Formerly an entomologist/exterminator/teacher of the sciences I will have to say you are a fantastic instructor. Thank You!

  • @Tjones87
    @Tjones87 2 роки тому +7

    Every episode there's something new to learn. Always appreciate how Chad explains how & why...keep it up 👍

  • @eddiejeselink2996
    @eddiejeselink2996 6 місяців тому +2

    Man, I'm aboutto put a patch panel on my Mustang and your videos is amazing. Thanks yall.

  • @artjones2498
    @artjones2498 2 роки тому

    i try to watch every thing you do.....the way you do your work is great....simple but sound technics and honest.....which to me counts the most....by far the best teacher in my book

  • @richardoliver1303
    @richardoliver1303 24 дні тому

    You have the best welding school. Every American should learn welding- from you

  • @ericnoble3285
    @ericnoble3285 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for taking the time to explain everything.
    I’m new to welding, restoring an old 75 El Camino and she needs a lot of welding. This is exactly what I needed to see on fixing many many parts. It’s also going to be very useful for when I have to fabricate the entire rear bed including all the supports since they don’t make any of that for this generation Camino. I did some test welds after watching this and had similar results. Thank you, I’ll be checking in for all kinds of tips now!

  • @A65Bill
    @A65Bill Рік тому +1

    Very helpful thanks, I had to discover this on my own some years ago.
    Pay attention people, this couple are good and explain it well with no editing tricks.

  • @anemone104
    @anemone104 Рік тому

    Thank you for this post. I have welded up a lot of cheap old cars to keep them on the road so I can drive them and have always taken pains to get my let-in sections closely fitting with no gaps. Nothing has ever let go, but I'm going to have to change what I do.

  • @johnfarney5328
    @johnfarney5328 Рік тому

    I've watched dozens of vids from all sorts of youtubers on paint and body, never seen this fantastic tip before. Thank you!!!

  • @johnhazard5231
    @johnhazard5231 2 роки тому +2

    Right on Chad taken us to school. Jolene is ahead of the curve when it comes to welding with the mig.

  • @bobbyholden5389
    @bobbyholden5389 4 місяці тому

    As a man looking to start car fab this is such a good demonstration of what that difference makes thank you

  • @victoroneill7924
    @victoroneill7924 Рік тому

    I'm glad I found this video! I'm about to weld some patch panels and was going to butt weld them like a lot of welding videos show. Now I'll leave a gap between the patch panel and and the original sheet metal.

  • @TheKylecrx
    @TheKylecrx Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this video. I'm doing floor pans in my truck for the first time and looking for pointers. I'm definitely going to be sure to have a gap after watching you do that bend test.

  • @kevinmaher813
    @kevinmaher813 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the welding lesson, used gas and electrode in the past; after watching you I've progressed to mig and your tips have proved to be very useful.

    • @TheMuddman74
      @TheMuddman74 Рік тому

      Gas and electrode? What? I'm guessing you mean stick/SMAW when you say electrode? What do you mean by gas? MIG uses shielding gas (solid core), TIG uses gas, Oxy-Acetylene with rod obviously uses gas.

  • @edgarasvas
    @edgarasvas 2 роки тому +6

    When welding without gap, you had to increase amps a bit for better pen. If you weld with a gap, metal shrinks and warps a lot deforming part very much. A lot of work later straightening

  • @StevePhillips
    @StevePhillips 6 місяців тому

    I never would have thought of that, I was taught just put two pieces of metal together touching and weld them together. Thank you both nicely presented tutorial video.

  • @djperry6787
    @djperry6787 Рік тому

    I appreciate the video, and the explanation, and the demonstration. I watched something last night to learn how to do butt welds right, and the person was an excellent welder fabricator. But there was no gap between the two pieces of steel. And I was doing something exactly the same (a butt weld) the day before, with no training. But having a gap between the two pieces of steel for my molten weld pool to harden and bond them together, and be really strong, just made sense to me. So that was how I did it. Thanks for confirming how you do it, I completely agree with that method.
    I'm a crappy welder, by the way, but I'm practicing, and trying to do better welding.
    Thank you again,
    Daniel

  • @howardmarshall5713
    @howardmarshall5713 2 роки тому +1

    thankyou chad and jolene for the welding lesson. ordinary everyday people could now have a go with a bit more confidence.

  • @rob6543
    @rob6543 Рік тому

    Just came across this for the first time thanks for the lesson 👏🇦🇺and your right time is worth more than money as you find this out when you lose love ones

  • @djpaulk
    @djpaulk 13 днів тому

    Jolene done a great job.
    Nice to see you exposing all the myths... Straight into it...
    Good demo Chad 👍🇭🇲

  • @billarroo1
    @billarroo1 Рік тому

    I was a bodyman in the 60's & 70's, mostly before Mig Wire welding, we used oxy/acetylene to weld. 1/4 panels, tops, etc.
    With a LOT of warppage.
    A technique we used was called
    " hammer welding", after. Intermittent welds the metal would be reheated ON the beads then hammered and dollied to remove most of the warpage, then, finished welding and re hammer and dolly, even with Mig the metal can still warp,
    There is a product I used with very good results, it *s a "heat damn", it was made of clay and asbestos, it is illegal now, but can be made at home, with clay and finely ground kitty litter, mixed with water to make a paste,
    Place a 1/2" high by 1" wide damn 3/8" away from the weld seam, it can be resoaked with a spray bottle. And is reusable, it worked well for me. I like your channel, keep it going.

  • @dyingforpie6879
    @dyingforpie6879 2 роки тому

    Thanks bud im not an experienced welder just a hands on learn as i go . Countless arguments from people telling me i gotta flange everything or overlap or butt it tight but logic seem to me to have a slight gap and then bam! I see this video im not crazy after all well ok im crazy but filled with confidence as i move forward on my restore.

  • @edwilliams8218
    @edwilliams8218 Рік тому

    It takes more talent to teach your skills than to apply your skills.excellent teacher!!!!!! Ed

  • @one62projects
    @one62projects 2 роки тому

    This video is my favorite one...I'm a hobbyist with a cheap welder learning welding teck...planning on getting a new one with a tank soon...but wanted to thank you for passing on the smarts yo have

  • @scottmartin356
    @scottmartin356 2 роки тому

    Jolene been learning lots of good practical car skills to go along with her excellent video work- good to see her featured for that! She wields a mean torch, so... Bad Chad and Mean Jolene, the Legend Continues!!

  • @charlesbuckner3704
    @charlesbuckner3704 2 роки тому

    Some people Chad do the work and they never steer you in the right way to do the work I walked I worked in a body shop and the owner wanted me to do all his dirty work but he never showed me how to weld or even how to do body work so I had to look on so with you you show how it's done and it's well appreciated

  • @johnmclaren7059
    @johnmclaren7059 Місяць тому

    Well I’ve ATTEMPTED welding lol now that Iam a retired guy with time on my hands I’ll start practicing! Hope the price of metal doesn’t go up cuz I’ll need a lot ! Thanks Chad! Keep on zappin 👍🇨🇦

  • @NatS8445
    @NatS8445 4 місяці тому

    Simple, very helpful advice, just getting started doing this sort of thing with exterior auto panels so I will keep all of this in mind!

  • @mikejanes6225
    @mikejanes6225 2 роки тому

    Your demonstration between gap and no gap welding is very good.

  • @timmcdaniel5655
    @timmcdaniel5655 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you Chad and Jolene for everything that you do. I love your videos

  • @jlopez5363
    @jlopez5363 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you Chad. Good explanation of how to weld. Been learning how to fabricate metal on my hot rod. Love your show.

  • @michaeln7305
    @michaeln7305 2 роки тому +1

    Cool video. Currently restoring a '74 Celica that I bought specifically to have a go at car metalwork & welding since I've watched 100's of videos of other guys doing it like yourself. It's going very well, & noticed early on it's better to make a patch panel that has abit of a 'loose' fit rather than a no-gap 'perfect' fit, otherwise seems the metal stretches when welding & you end up fighting with it & having to make a relief cut etc.

  • @vwdrvrfoundat420
    @vwdrvrfoundat420 2 роки тому

    I'm new to welding,and these little tips go a long way in helping me out.

  • @jasonhenderson6544
    @jasonhenderson6544 2 роки тому

    I like how he explains why the purpose of what hes doing. Have a good thanksgiving.

  • @baldanddangerous1572
    @baldanddangerous1572 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent tutorial for beginner welders and pros alike thanks chad an jolene

  • @naterose929
    @naterose929 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you Chad! New to the whole car resto, and welding. This explained a lot!

  • @dvernst
    @dvernst 8 місяців тому

    Damn dude. Thank you! Seems so simple now. I've been killing myself doing body work, and grinding smooth. Old metal on vehicles seems to blow out instantly when there's a gap, but maybe it's because of flux core welder. But not going to stop perfecting it. Thank you again! 💪

  • @louisbotti9805
    @louisbotti9805 2 роки тому +4

    Love the way you work things out and explain it nice and simple helps me soo much with my fabricating 👊🏻

  • @roymartinez2230
    @roymartinez2230 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for the advice I’m just getting into welding and it was something I always wanted to do never heard the gap in between and thanks I’ve seen many people cars rust and break apart at welds and didn’t know why but know I see thanks again I love to get it right and you’ve taught me what many are not trying to do which is have things last and I like to do it the best way and thanks you’ve made my day I’m about to repair my car

  • @MrMgmram
    @MrMgmram 9 місяців тому

    As a beginner this definitely will help with my project! Thank you Chad.

  • @amateurmakingmistakes
    @amateurmakingmistakes Рік тому

    Thanks, Chad. I've recently started using a MIG welder and have learnt another trick here from you through this video! Goodonya, mate!

  • @fredhoman6101
    @fredhoman6101 2 роки тому

    short but great video again,showing us how to butweld sheetmetal together,also nice to see Jolene in front of the camera again for a while,thanks for sharing,keep up the good work you're doing

  • @neomatrix2722
    @neomatrix2722 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you for sharing Chad and Jolene I'm starting to learn this as I'm starting to work on my truck I super appreciate all your videos and your time

  • @mintac3672
    @mintac3672 11 місяців тому

    As a VERY new welder... Great content! I have to add new cab corners on my Silverado and plan on doing allot of practice before getting into the truck.

  • @edbrenner458
    @edbrenner458 2 роки тому

    It's pretty good how you showed how the world like that other people don't do that it just slap it on there and go now you take your time show people how to do it people learn better thanks Chad

  • @bossownermanager8536
    @bossownermanager8536 2 роки тому +3

    Congratulations on 500 Episodes I really LOVE watching your show i've learnt so very much you keep up the Fantastic Show it can only get bigger

  • @jimvanaert4409
    @jimvanaert4409 2 роки тому

    Love the way you always compare your beautiful work with Jolene. I’ve been using that on my wife, and it works great.

  • @mark110101
    @mark110101 2 роки тому +4

    Another great lesson on welding, and very good info on why the first weld failed

  • @boneal4942
    @boneal4942 2 роки тому +15

    Thankyou Chad! Always enjoy your knowledge exchange and talent, from hot rod fabrication to life lessons.👍

  • @scottmartin356
    @scottmartin356 2 роки тому

    And really helped to bring it together to see you sitting in the driver seat- was thinking the steering wheel was too steep an angle, but looks okay with you there for reference

  • @bossownermanager8536
    @bossownermanager8536 2 роки тому +1

    I really like the idea of you putting JIM on a T Shirt it will be so very nice and a lot of people will buy the shirt because JIM is a very nice guy

  • @timeberhardt2633
    @timeberhardt2633 2 роки тому

    This is Tim from Iowa I just recently bought one of your new shirts with you it's with you and your fiance in it in it I can't wait to be here I like watching you fabricate 2 different things you're an awesome guy bad Chad

  • @dennisjaeger4755
    @dennisjaeger4755 2 роки тому +1

    Another moment in greatness, actually a great lesson learnt. Keep it up, Chad Jolene and Fina.

  • @matthewknepp5244
    @matthewknepp5244 2 роки тому

    Just wanted to say thanks for a clear demonstration to settle the gap/no gap arguments.

  • @quinnwarman5139
    @quinnwarman5139 2 роки тому +3

    Great advice and easily explained 👌 Well-done at keeping it simple to understand 👏 👍

  • @paulhutchinson1795
    @paulhutchinson1795 2 роки тому

    Thank you you're a great teacher i think you should do a series of educational videos i know i would watch them many times

  • @johngranath8558
    @johngranath8558 2 роки тому +1

    I like your guidance and knowledge on welding and fabrications ./ you guys are top of the line people . thanks

  • @davidelack8809
    @davidelack8809 2 роки тому

    I echo the sentiments of many who thank you for being a teacher!

  • @rafterL78
    @rafterL78 Рік тому

    I've always wondered why the gap. It goes against all I've heard about butting up tight. Great explanation, thanks.

  • @tedhewitt4299
    @tedhewitt4299 2 роки тому

    This was a very good demonstration. I would not have thought the joint would break so quickly.

  • @Metalsuitman
    @Metalsuitman 5 місяців тому

    Thanks Brad and Jolene for your welding class. So helpful.

  • @kevinanderson7555
    @kevinanderson7555 Рік тому

    1yr on and ive just watched this one.... excellent tutorial Chad👍

  • @rickdarr5323
    @rickdarr5323 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for sharing Chad... the information will be out here for people wanting to learn for years to come. Great Job!

  • @kulan9379
    @kulan9379 2 роки тому

    Thats why i started to love that i did go TIG welding and tack it one tack every cm all the way the seam is. Then grind the tacks down and then try to do the entire seam in one go and allow it to warp a bit. Just take a hammer and dolly and hit the seam and it will "un-warp". Only if i cant acces the backside of the panel i am worried of warpige.

  • @bdpgarage
    @bdpgarage Рік тому +14

    You could also turn the heat up on the panels without a gap and linger a bit longer on the weld bead until you see the puddle wet out a bit. That’ll usually ensure the penetration is good. Sometimes you need to turn the wire speed down a touch.

    • @BlueMacGyver
      @BlueMacGyver Рік тому +3

      I am glad someone else realized that. I butt them up right against each other. The heat divides the peices, kinda like thin walmart bag plastic pealing back away from a flame.

    • @3.0colorado21
      @3.0colorado21 Рік тому +1

      I tend to have it want to blow through when I linger on sheet metal, at least 20g.

    • @bdpgarage
      @bdpgarage Рік тому +4

      @@3.0colorado21 when I say linger, I mean like .05 micro seconds longer. It should be instantaneous. You can’t linger on it like you do at the grocery store.

    • @3.0colorado21
      @3.0colorado21 Рік тому

      @@bdpgarage shit I wish I could linger at the grocery store. I forgot, talking to people that weld on the Internet is like talking to a gay narcissist with an ego the size you wish your penis was.

    • @bosqueboys
      @bosqueboys 10 місяців тому +2

      Warp it real good

  • @allanimalstaxi
    @allanimalstaxi 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the welding tip Bad Chad, I will be using that one this summer on my 1954 Ford truck. Great welding work Jolene and camera work as well.

  • @darylmorgan9887
    @darylmorgan9887 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome advice Thanks Chad and Jolene, Great welding tips. The console has turned out beautiful and will look great once painted

  • @loubianchi2577
    @loubianchi2577 2 роки тому

    Chad and Jolene.......It was a great thought to invite Jim to be on your milestone video. Your guys have fun together and it's always entertaining to watch.

  • @richardhattan2588
    @richardhattan2588 2 роки тому

    Thanks for Explaining the difference between the two welds

  • @crushingvanessa3277
    @crushingvanessa3277 2 роки тому

    Learned a lot from this video. I only practiced a little bit of mig welding in school but not enough to get real good at it.

  • @JohnFerguson-vespaboi1980
    @JohnFerguson-vespaboi1980 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for this advice sir, I’m welding a mk1- T5 Vespa cut down frame so these tips were excellent. Look forward to more videos all the best from Scotland

  • @raymorrison919
    @raymorrison919 2 роки тому

    without a gap on a panel being welded you not only end up with no penetration but the panel will peak along the weld making things worse, also it is recommended to have a gap between the metal the thickness of the mig wire, can also tack a piece of flat reasonably wide on edge top and bottom of the weld for long sections to hold the shape better still using the tack and air cooling method.
    Still a very good lesson Chad and Jolene, short sharp and shiny

  • @reneekrueger962
    @reneekrueger962 2 роки тому

    I never thought I'd see the day when you are butt welding. 6 months ago you were stacking 3 or 4 pieces of rusty metal and welding it together. Good for you.

  • @michaelszczys8316
    @michaelszczys8316 Рік тому

    Where I work we have a lot of thin sheet steel in rolls for stampings. The largest are about 18" wide so occasionally I need something wider so I have to butt weld some together.
    I use a TIG welder and can't usually put clamps on except at the start so after getting a good start with the metal right together I just put weights to keep it even and the shrinking welds keep it tight together. It's thin , only 1/16" so it welds good with no gap.