COREJJ on Team Liquid's AGGRESSIVE style! Is CRITICIZING your own team EVER OK? | Hotline League 314
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
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00:00:00 Intro
00:18:15 Lord Audie asks CoreJJ about TL's growth since 2023
00:30:40 wombatbaby's take: FLY and TL makes sense because they're the only teams that have Challengers rosters
00:45:27 tbone's take: while Thanatos is a good pickup for C9, it won't solve their problems
00:55:47 skizzle's take: DIG firing Enatron was just a cover for poor roster construction
01:16:17 boggs's take: the Inspired interview was super overblown
01:31:05 Glaurung's idea: if a team wins a split, they get to choose the city for a road show
01:39:30 Outro - Ігри
Always love seeing CoreJJ on the call!
Core rightly identifies the symbiotic nature of having the academy team and the main team both be really good. We as a region are pretty fortunate to have someone who genuinely enjoys uplifting other pros in a region that cares so little about anything but the top.
I mean, it's a direct measurement of investment. We don't have a lot of sample size to suggest that the academy team itself matters.
I hate how much core gets hated on but he’s done so much for this league and one of the few Koreans who have stood the test of time in NA
He’s a pro player but still follows the norms of running it down 15 times in a Tyler1 game. Truly iconic
CoreJJ is such an amazing player. He's done so much for the NA scene, and continues to do whatever he can to make the league better.
Thank you for keeping this show going. I look forward to it every week!
Thanks Grandpa
Hey Travis, I work at software developement, and let me know that, hearing your podcasts, specially HLL, is relaxing and you talk about some of my favorites subjects, obviously LoL, but also MTG. I really appreciate this, I wonder sometimes what I could be listening if there was no HLL but can't name many things, really happy to have this weekly as part of my life. Also couldn't thank you 2 years ago when you gifted me a twitch sub to Markz channel ^_^!
Thank you! I really appreciate the kind comment.
Hey Travis, I just started reading Mistborn this week after seeing your recommendation. I haven’t really read a book since 2012. Mistborne is really hard to put down and I’m absolutely loving it! Thank you so much!!
I love to hear that! Awesome!
About the Inspired interview. Personally, I love a pro being candid about what went wrong in a game which can include a teammate not performing well. And I'm sure Jensen can handle that criticism and even agree when he played poorly.
But what I'm sad didn't get discussed in the call was the part where Inspired says that Jensen learned wrong playing on all his other teams and that he and Bwipo need to tell Jensen what to do. Jensen is the #2 all time mid laner in the LCS and Inspired basically said he doesn't understand the game correctly and teams that he's been on (including championship teams) didn't understand the game correctly. Its one thing to say a teammate played poorly but it felt like Inspired was saying Jensen just isn't a good player overall, which wouldn't sit well with me if I were Jensen.
Most of that team (flyquest) talked a lot of crap, they got their asses kicked, then you have players like inspired throwing his team under the bus then disguising it by "taking responsibility" is crap. I agree with CoreJJ 100%, that's super unprofessional, and if you want people to take you seriously, that has to stop. The LCS needs more professionalism in general, IMO. If you're going to take responsibility, focus on your own mistakes, not someone else's.
I also wanted to say I'm fairly new to the LCS culture, and LoL esports in general, and that interview really rubbed me the wrong way. If the LCS wants more viewership, that kind of stuff needs to be cleaned up. People don't get away with that kind of stuff in virtually any other professional sport. They just would find themselves unemployed as you never know what teammate they're going to throw under the bus in the future. You can't complain about lack of sponsorships then be ok with that kind of stuff happening.
Also, congrats to TL! It was awesome to watch you guys this split, very inspiring to watch you guys come together and play the way you played.
If I’m riot I would try to partner with the college scene to get a road show on the cheap. It would shine a light on the college scene while also giving the lcs a place to to play during weeks where valorant have the arena. They could easily add a couple college matches before or after the lcs matches.
Hey Travis, I remember a very very long time ago on HLL you had spoken to some guests about a book called the Three Body Problem. so on those recommendations I went and read it, now it's a netflix series! crazy, take care love the content.
We support you during the tough times!!!
Thank you, Zach!
Inspired caller is a clown. That doesn't make Jensen improve, you know what makes him improve? Keeping it backdoor where Jensen can review the games with him, and push back where he thinks Inspired is wrong. Dont just assume everything Inspired said is the grail of truth and excellence. And the constant glazing of Jojo in that same interview was really a bad look. Being right after final isn't an excuse.
Nice NIN shirt Travis! Great episode as well, always love hearing from Core.
Its crazy that the more teams drop support staff the worse we seem to appear or at least the closer all the teams appear
The issue is Bwipo was the worst player on the day, and he escaped all criticism. he obviously was super biased. its one thing to be critical of a the team as a whole, but he went in on one player who was not even given any agency with his picks (Annie/Karma). And also he didnt take responsibility. He said, i could do better BUT.... not hard to read between the lines. Saying jensen has never had aggressive teammates? Dude has played with some of the best players in NA history. Just overall a bad and jaded take.
Day9 starts streaming brood war again and then there's a brood war shoutout here
The starcraft hype popping up where you least expect it
Dang, I missed this show live, and I always have a wild take ready to go 😅
You shouldn't _hard flame_ teammates but it's fine to talk about the mistakes they made in the game. Inspired basically talked about how Bwipo was greedy and got punished and how Jensen was baited into ulting (both outplayed by the goat top laner Impact) and a few other mistakes he and his team made. It was perfectly fine. Maybe it crosses the line for some people but we need to give leeway to players sharing their thoughts otherwise they'll just clam up and say nothing.
CoreJJ!! I love it!!
Travis, why aren't you using xsplit?
Core was so great. Hope to see him in more content.
I do have to say on the Inspired part that both him and Bwipo have been so disrespectful to their own team. If I was Jensen, one of the greatest players in NA all time, i'd be pretty livid being shat on in public by my teammate; regardless of if they're correct. Especially when he wasn't even the biggest problem in the final.
Core is married right? I would’ve loved to know how he balances a more established personal life with the demanding TL schedule
Glaurang's call is amazing
I love Core
Hotline Core!!
CoreJJ
TGI !!!
They could field 2 teams easily in the LCS that would compete:
Have Poome replace Huhi at NRG then,
Team 1:
Licorice
Spica
Young
Stixxay
Huhi
Team 2:
FLYC entire roster
1:16:27 lol Inspired took absolutely zero responsibility. He basically said “i could have played better because Jensen played bad”
why can't we background play the videos travman
That’s an issue with all members only videos across the platform. It’s not setting Travis can check or uncheck
(Based on this happening on membership videos on other channels as well)
Download the podcast.
Ask UA-cam
Ah ok, sorry the trav is the only channel that gets my membership so wasn't aware the issue is sitewide!
C9 Lucid, calling it.
Cubby looks like he was inspired by corejj's haircut
Short episode no? 😢
Seems average length
Not much happened this past week, we usually do shorter episodes during off season when there's less to talk about.
People nowadays can't differentiate criticism and coaching
Smh
I agree with the background play commentor
Download the podcast.
Take it up with UA-cam!
Both teams going to MSI made it with Native Talent and C9 Jack is out here still trying to pick up the next LCK CL superstar 🙄*rolls eyes
Did cubby just leak blabber is out?
Please next time tag the time of stuff like this, so I'm not anxious waiting for this comment in the video hahaha 😅
I think he was implying a support change lol
I don't think there can be any more changes to Korean imports if top becomes Thanatos. That is 2 imports with berserker and top already.
Only if berserker is out or getting a green card, since he's still an import
Core's gotta be the only KR import in NA that's lived up to the expectations. The only one who's been close is Impact.
Impact has the far superior resume
There have been plenty of KR imports that have lived up to expectations. Crown for instance. I expected nothing from him, and that's exactly what I got.
You mean the other way around? Core cant even win without Impact
Core literally hasn't had much success in NA without Impact. Impact has 6 LCS Championships. Core has 3
core and impact for sure.
Ok but? Thanatos is gonna be another boomerange player. C9 Jack needs to RE-evaluate his approach. Stop importing boomerangs and bring back C9 Challengers
Srrty > Thanatos
Licorice > Thanatos
Jenkins > Thanatos
Crimson > Thanatos
Revenge > Thanatos
Ssumday > Thanatos
Bradley > Thanatos
HECK
Niles > Thanatos
Biopanther > Thanatos
normally i would agree but u clearly dont know how good thanatos is. He might legit be the best top laner in LCS right off the bat thats how good he is lol. Even DL talked about thanatos 1v9 his 100t team in korea with his academy team.
Bidenomics hit you too Travis. Sorry to hear that!
Russian Troll
Can we talk about how embarrassing it is that Travis can’t get a sponsor for HLL, continues to blame the environment and sponsor money being down but if you watch ANY other LOL podcast they have all sponsors every episode, yes not the same one each time but still some sponsor revenue none the less. I have been a hotline league supporter for half a decade and I want the best for this show but at this point this is straight up embarrassing, grovelling for money from viewers instead of getting of his ass and finding sponsors.
What a wild take. Almost every podcast I listen to has a Patreon or something that's equivalent. The whole esports industry is going through it right now, hence the term "esports winter." Massive layoffs everywhere.
"Just find a sponsor" is a really unreasonable statement.
@@TravisGafford the only thing wild in this take is that nobody has said this sooner, your entire fan base is just 90% Travis fanboys who don’t have the balls to tell you the truth, be better, find…a….sponsor…. The success of hotline league depends on it
@@callumischamp "just find a sponsor, 5head" 🙄🙄🙄
@@TravisGafford excellent response, proves my point point entirely, just a big baby grovelling for twitch primes and patreon money 🤡
@@TravisGafford- I wish you could make it so this idiot had to watch a Raid Shadow Legends sponsorship but the rest of us didn't.