I live in Springfield, Gypsys house was minutes from our house. There is so much to unpack with this case that can't be portrayed in a movie, youtube, video ect. Understandably when this happened a lot of people here followed the case very closely and dug into everything they possibly could to be able to come to as much of an informed opinion as possible. But the truth is Gypsy obviously has a lot of mental setbacks due to her abuse and being kept away from normal life for her entire childhood and watching the things I've seen since she was released I believe she is ripe to be abused and taken advantage of again, I hope I am wrong but the things shes posted and some things shes said show she is still not in a "right" frame of mind. She needs help not a movie deal.
I believe she’s had a lot of therapy and online education in jail, but you’re not wrong, she needs healthy support and the View people are not it. Honestly, if anyone reading this runs into her, invite her into a real Christian community, pray for her, befriend her. She has never had a “normal” life, but that doesn’t mean she can’t heal and break free from the past.
And remember. Right now this is how she is supporting herself. That said people would probably donate to a GiveSendGo without even needing her to tell her story, but part of her moving forward might be telling her story.
She is definitely at risk of being abused and used again. Apparently she has already gotten offers from people wanting her to make phorn. with her developmental disabilities and trauma I don't think anything good will come from all the fame. emotionally intelligent people have a hard time navigating celebrity status. She is going to need good people around her to get through this. I pray she comes to Christ.
i feel lilke she is smarter and more manipulative then people give her credit, her mother raised her to be, with that said the things she went thru was horrible and i hope she gets the help she needs and i fear what would happen if she were to become a mother to be honest
She refused a bunch of free, expensive professional help. Getting the 411 on life from a bunch of jail inmates isn't the same as professional help. And from the footage I've seen, I have no doubt if Nick was released she'd be right back with him. Who talks to the guy that killed and supposedly s. assaulted her right up to her wedding day? Tells her fiance she had a dream about leaving him for her killing partner literally days before the wedding? She's playing on everyone's sympathies and taking no responsibility for her part in her mother's death. Not saying others aren't taking advantage of her but it gives her what she wants too. And when she stops wanting it or doesn't like how things are going... well, we all know how she handled the last situation she no longer wanted to be in. This debate isn't just about her victim status, it's about public safety and her proven ability to take extreme, violent measures to handle a situation. She could have stood up out of that chair, proved her mother a liar, been rescued and hailed a hero. Instead in her mind she justified killing her own mother and manipulating an unstable autistic guy that wasn't right to begin with into throwing his life away. It's not all about emotion and sympathy, the facts and logic have to be considered too.
Those doctors should be investigated!!!! This is insane that doctors just do whatever yet I can’t get a specialist to look at an issue without demanding it.
She manipulated an autistic young man with sex and the allure of actually having a relationship into killing her mom. I do not believe she isn’t like her mother. She learned how to use people to serve her needs without doing the work herself.
She was a victim that definitely turned monster briefly I suppose. The crime was not in self defense. Prison was right for her. Still a tragic incident that is a lot up for discussion
Autism is a spectrum it’s definitely possible he knew what he did. He was previously charged for molestation before he meet gypsy towards Other girls. Also there were possibly signs he might have been into forced bondage play.
She isn’t really a celebrity. The media made her into one. I don’t think she should be getting the press she is getting. She should be living a close to normal life. But all this publicity won’t really help her.
Certainly. But the American people will search for a “hero” in this filthy case. She has her 15 min of fame now but she will deal with trauma for all of her life. In which case I hope she finds restoration in the Lord and gives her life to Jesus
She said in the long form interview she had called police and basically mom convinced them she was intellectually disabled and didn’t know what she was doing/saying. Then mom threatened death. Glad to hear her still be accountable but man what a hard situation.
This is exactly what I was going to say. Yes murder is wrong for sure but what do you do in that situation? Not saying that even gives you the right to kill, but her mother had manipulated everyone for years and they all believed her. Even if she hadn't previously gone to the police, that's immediately where my mind went. There's no way they would believe her with all the lies they had been fed. Just sick and horrible. Pray for her to get the truth of Jesus to truly set her free ♥
She’s also said in other interviews she never called the cops cuz she assumed she wouldn’t be believed, so who knows the truth. I think she knows how to manipulate, & prob learned it from her mom. Def could’ve stood up & walked at any event, & told people about it, & she would’ve been believed. Many Drs suspected the mom cuz she never had medical records, & blamed them getting destroyed. There were just so many things wrong w/ all of this, & I truly pray she gets help cuz she def still needs it.
To my understanding she did try to contact the police in the past and to get help in the past but each time she was returned to her mother and or her mother was told about her reaching out.
Nah Zac I'm with you, the police gets called but the Mom answers the door. If she can manipulate the doctors you think Gypsy didn't think she could manipulate the police too? Then her Mom would've punished her or attempted to. Also, she's just figuring out who she is as far as something small like her actual Age. And not that I'm saying she was dumb but she didn't have the mind of logical thinking adult.
How could doctors go along with Deedee?!!?! They are doctors!!! How could they confirm she was sick??? Cancer?? That’s what I’m so confused about….were the doctors questioned? Where are they now? People are reported to other doctors & pharmacies when they try to go to multiple clinics for prescription medication…why wasn’t this done in Gypsy’s case? Her name should have been flagged in the medical system…
If you look at Her medical records, there is no Discussion about any kind of Cancer. and they did a muscle test for muscular dystrophy, and it was negative, Thats in the charts. She was not being treated for all of these things like we have been hearing. a lot of the stuff we have been hearing in the media all these years isn't true. the good wiveschannel has all her medical records.
Many Drs did suspect her, even called CPS on her. She would move if they got suspicious, but the last place they lived, they lived for a while, & I think people did get suspicious, but gypsy playing along so well prob made them feel bad for asking questions. She seemed to love the attention as much as her mom. She could have got up & walked at any time, called her mother out, anything, but she didn’t. She snuck out & met other men, before Nick, so she could’ve walked into a police station told her story, & they’d of had to investigate. So many people at fault here.
I think this is a situation that empathize with with guilty, and accept the punishment they are given. I don't think a lot of people would have done much different if that was their reality. Sin lead to this, sins came from this... This is what it means for sin to multiply. Pray for children and adults that suffered in ways like this.
She didn’t move cities when the doctor caught on but they switched doctors, she did make them away from all family though. She knew she could walk to. Her mom didn’t allow her to but she could walk fine, but was compliant to her mom.
What is wrong was that she plotted the murder and manipulated someone to do it and then the person who did it, saved her from her mothers abuse is serving life in prison, while she did a lesser sentence and out and about shifting blame onto him. Im not minimizing the abuse, but its not an excuse to do what she did. also, she became her mother a liar and a manipulator. Let's hope she changes and does better in society, but theres alot to this story.
I wish people would understand how DV victims do not always have access to police. And the abuser most likely makes threats, etc. Maybe she did call the police on prior times before the murder. But her mom found a way to convince the police just like she manipulated the doctors.
I don’t think she was tied to the bed for days. She will say anything to make her more of a victim. To justify having her mum killed. We only have her word what happened inside the house. And her mum was ill. And to have your mum brutally killed while she slept. Shows you what type of mind she has. And wouldn’t trust a word she says.
I think she has serious mental health issues and I don't believe she should have the following she does. What she did was wrong, no matter what. Her past is tragic but there are other options for relief, aside from MURDER. She needs help. Still.
The "authorities" have not been able to help her at all, instead were helping her Mom to continue the abuse...so i think the self-defense case holds, if she felt like she could not turn to authorities which had proved to believe her Mom's version of reality over and over again. Poor girl
She been through trauma since she was little and probably will have the same trauma for the rest of her life …some Christians including me have gone thru trauma and will have it for the rest of thier lives including me. It’s a sad reality but it’s true
You guys said she couldn't get up and leave, but she could. She walked at home when no one was around, she walked to let the guy into the house, she left without a wheelchair. She didn't ask for help, she didn't leave or show she could walk. She chose to hatch a plan to kill her own mother. Sane people don't decide this is the best way to handle a situation. Having sex after the fact with her dead mother in the next room is disturbing. Her claims of rape are moot bc she continued to talk to the guy while in prison, even after she was in a relationship with her current husband and could easily have no contact with Nick. Give it time, people will see her for what she is. Especially if she keeps admitting in interviews how capable she is of lies and manipulation thanks to her mother's tutelage.
I think that she didn’t know she could talk to the police and she didn’t know that they would believe her because the mom always told her that everyone always believes her
This girl was soooo abused, on every level, by her sick and insane ‘mother’. I don’t think she saw any other way out. She needed a lot of HELP, not prison, in my humble opinion. Wow! 🤦🏻♀️
After seeing the Hulu series, I would follow on Instagram if I was younger but I started to hate the whole reality star celebrity stuff. I want to focus on my relationship with Jesus. I definitely pray for her, I hope she doesn’t get used and stays healthy and grounded.
True Christians don't murder people. Thou shalt not murder. It's a commandment. Jesus Christ said the gates command was love the Lord your God with all your heart mind and soul. The second is like it. Love your neighbor as yourself. Just because someone claims to be a Christian doesn't make them one.
I think she colluded with her mother in the last years, all the silly huge smiles and dressing like a five year old. She could have walked away, she always says she knew she could walk
I’m wondering if the reason why Gypsy didn’t seek out police was because she assumed they wouldn’t believe her. She watched her mother her entire life manipulate and lie to doctors, and they believed her. Not only that, but Gypsy was supposedly mentally impaired (as documented by her mother)
I'm of that opinion and I may be wrong but I think in one interview she even said that. I think she served her time and honestly need extensive therapy or even placed in an institution for severely abused kids that lived if one even exists. For other options too many cases have children going to the police first and the parents pretty much manipulating them or they can't find any legal means to remove the child from the home cause there's no immediate danger present. I'd say she need to find a trusted neighbor and show that the mom has been lying and help her to get in touch with someone aside from the police that can help her gather enough evidence to prove the mom was lying and finally go to the police. Basically the police for me now is treatment plan for after something happens and it's really rare for them to be a preventive, that is the laws themselves and we see how that works out.
She DID contact the police about it. They didn't believe her. Dee Dee had convinced everyone, including Gypsy that she was younger than she was. She convinced the police that Gypsy was mentally delayed, and mistaking protective parenting for abuse. The police believed Dee Dee, so they didn't help Gypsy. As a victim of abuse myself, I KNOW for a FACT that it can be practically impossible to get help from law enforcement and government officials in cases of domestic abuse (whether it is abuse from parents, spouses, or siblings). That's why I think it was self-defense. But, I think Gypsy is manipulative, without even realizing it; because of the way she requested help from the boy, then threw him away like trash and basically labeled him as a psychotic killer, when he was trying to rescue her.
Right off the bat you got the facts wrong. Gypsy did not think she was ten when she was in her twenties. She was told she was nineteen, but she knew that was not true and that she was 23. Her mom reminded her age by 4 years but Gypsy knew how old she really was.
12:55 as a staunch pro-lifer, dont compare this to abortion. Gypsy did attempt to seek help from the police. Just like her mother manipulated Doctors, her mother manipulated police into believing that she wasnt of sound mind, and the cops took her right back to her mother without question. Its also known she ran away from home once and her mother caught her and chained her to a bed for over a week. Her mother was killing her with every dose of medication, every unnecessary surgery, the malnutrition of living off of pedialyte and meal replacements her entire life. What, pray tell, would you have had gypsy do? she exausted all non violent options as much as she could before escalating to murder. As a survivor of abuse its disgusting to watch christian men downplay a survivor of extreme, daily abuse, and hmm and haw about her acting in violence to end her abuse when she went about every non-violent avenue to be put right back into her abusers hands by the very people who should have helped her. Self defense- *true* self defense is justified and perfectly fine. This might have been premeditated, but it was premeditated as a final option. Rape alone doesnt kill, but id be pretty justified in a murder of self defense if i was kidnapped, locked away, and raped day in and out by my kidnapper. replace rape with poison and you have Gypsys case.
My take on this: When did Gypsy figure out she wasn’t sick? When did Gypsy figure out she could actually walk? When did Gypsy figure out anything and how long did she keep faking it with her Mom & the doctors? For someone who was always in a wheelchair, she sure walked fine out of the house that night & in to the court room. I understand her Mom abused her, but when did Gypsy figure that out? Like the Turpin 13, children ages 2 - 29 who were finally set free from horrific treatment & abuse living in a house of horrors.
Her daughter knew what was going on before it happened, why couldn’t she tell the doctors no.. why manipulate an autistic boy with prior history of violence knowing she could dump the blame on him… two wrongs don’t make a right. And something is off about this whole situation and her
She was poisoning her and drugging her daily. And her mom did beat her and tie her to the bed. I also feel like she could have asked for help. HOWEVER, she was raised in a completely warped situation. She saw her mother manipulating doctors...she may have believed her mom could manipulate the police as well.
I Knew , Because A lady at my Church Lived in Springfield Missouri Where they Lived ! The knew the Faimly and Horrific Abuse ! Gypsy's mind is like a Child because of It !! Her plotting to kill her mom was wrong , Because She did have several times of OPURTUNITY!! Yet Her Trama was severe!! And this is a Extremely Sad situation! But only the Doctors know her true mindset and thoughts! Murder is wrong! But none of us who have never been in a state of Severe Trama Can't fairly Say Was it wrong ? Or was it Rigjt ?? ONLY GODS KNOWS 🙏🏻 When show our Emphathy as Christians , but we can't jude either way !! Vengeance belongs to God ! God is always in control and aware ! As Christians we must always start out from a place of love ! I myself saw the Series years back after everything!! I only know I don't hold any type of Qualifications to said How I would react in that state of Trama !! Though I 'd like to believe that "MURDER " would not be the way ! It would be devastating to live with I would believe,, weather justified or not !!!! 🙌✝️❤️🔥⚘️🕊🙏🏻
Killing is killing, she could’ve left with the boyfriend/ cops but decided her only option was to take out her mom. Well idk what to tell you but I’m pretty sure this is a big sin 😬
@@STI.RicarditoExactly. People forget prison is meant for ppl who are dangers to society. If you cannot control your urge to m*rder than you don’t belong on the streets
Murder was wrong she could ran away you should not killing in ten commandments God gave us she without excuse had choice when boyfriend came he could report it took to police station
I think people fail to realize how hard it is to know what your options really are, and to concentrate on solutions, when you are being habitually tortured, threatened, talked down to, manipulated, controlled, and mostly isolated from people who might help you. I didn't have the same thing happen to me that happened to Gypsy. However, I experienced my own form of extreme abuse. I know my mind flooded with thoughts including trying to run away and possibly be caught and killed of severely hurt in the attempt, killing the abuser just to make sure I would never be hurt again (but, having to kill someone wasn't something I wanted to do), or even killing myself just so I wouldn't have to kill the abuser but wouldn't get hurt anymore myself. I escaped. That left permanent bad consequences for me too. Once I got away, I realized running away was the best solution for me. But, at the time I was being abused, I wasn't sure I could escape. Logically, the surefire way to stop my abuser from hurting me was to commit suicide. But, I wanted to try to live. Anyway, I will never judge someone else in a similar situation, because they chose a different potential solution than I chose, just to avoid being constantly tortured or abused. Her mom should have never put her in that situation to begin with. It is easy to judge someone from a distance when you have never experienced something similar. But, when you have, you understand how a decent person can choose a seemingly evil solution. I chose to try to escape my abuser. I was willing to accept the consequnces if my attempt failed (revenge could be sought and I could get hurt badly or killed). But, I succeeded. I can't Gypsy harshly for not wanting to accept that was the possible consequence for her if she attempted to leave her mom again, and her mom tried to stop her.😊
2:46 when I heard that they met on a Christian dating site it also reminded me of this incident of one lady years ago who met a serial killer on a Christian dating site called Christian Mingle
There are people out here that have been through more than Gypsy and they did not manipulate a man to kill their mom. Gypsy should still be in prison. The guy is definitely mentally ill and should not be in prison.
She was 17 when she sang at that event. But believed she was 15 at that time. She admits she walked around her house , she was only in a wheelchair around people.
Although i sympathize with why she did it i dont believe it was her only option. Ending somebody should be a last resort. She absolutely could have gotten help. Maybe she felt like nobody would believe her and redrum was her only option. Either way it was not her only option. What her mother did to her was awful and evil and wrong but what she did was the same. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Ok, she knew she could walk, & she could walk for a long time. She met a man before Nick, & her mom caught her at his house. She was meeting men on the internet for a while. She was in on some of the scams cuz she liked the attention, too, but not to the degree of her mother. It’s apparent even now w/ all this attention she’s trying to get now. The whole situation is sad, & she should have reached out for help. All she had to do is get up at an event, walk, & tell people, everyone would believe that. Many Drs were suspicious of her. Her mother looked like she didn’t have long when it happened, she was way closer to death. She was physically ill cuz of her diabetes. The series “The Act,” chronicled some of it, but we’ll never get the whole story. I pray for her, & any kids in this situation.
After what she went through, you can’t think for one second she wasn’t mentally ruined and yes murder is not ok but from a distance can you not think that mom deserved it? But all in all she should’ve just run away and stayed gone once she knew she was 19
Gypsy was never poisoned and she could walk just fine, she could have run out of her house to the neighbors for help. This guy doesn’t have the correct story. It didn’t have to go down like this
She was medicated by her mother. Those medications she didn’t need, that caused her side effects mimicking symptoms of illnesses. In a way that is a parent “poisoning” but I wouldn’t call it that personally but it’s not far off. Also lots of people that are prisoners held captive could have maybe escaped but didn’t. It effects you mentally abuse like this so to you it’s as easy as going to the neighbours but to someone being abused it’s not that simple.
I noticed everything she says. Especially her prison interview. When she said. I'm going to tell the parole board what ever I need to to get parole. Not telll them everything she learned and has worked on. Just im gonna tell them what they want to hear. If you watch the series. And make your own opinion. She is not the victim. She was. But she was not when she killed her mom and she's not a victim now.
Im pretty sure she did try to contact police many times, but they just sent he back to her mom after being told that she was intellectually challenged.
It wasn’t Christianity that made Nick do what he did. He did it for gypsy. Love makes you do some crazy things. I can tell you firsthand that the medical institutions are only there because they want money. Yes, there are some good people in the medical industry but that’s far and in between. And then, when you do find a good doctor, the hospital they work for is usually only in it for the money. I personally have experienced that not only when I thought I was trans but when I had my last two babies. My obgyn is amazing while the hospital he delivers at is crap. Yeah look at Kyle Rittenhouse. He is traumatized by what he had to do. Was he justified in doing what he did no but he was defending himself and businesses. I think god can see the difference in the intent of the killing. I don’t think self defense is a sin. Yes in the Bible, it does say thou shall not kill. But it doesn’t say in the Bible that you cannot defend yourself.
Yoo, why is the cohost laughing as he talks about the fact that Gypsy was lied to about her age? That was a significant part of the abuse and isn’t funny. It’s just not a good look. 😕
Please look into everything out there before you get played by this girl and her situation. There is a group of people that had medical records and worked closely to her and others in this scandal. Please get all the information because this goes very deep.
Gypsy knew she could walk. In fact, Gypsy could walk just fine. Gypsy was suspicious about her age as she was getting older. She was born in 1991. In 2005 she would have been 13-14 depending on when the video was made. She had run away in the past to a local man's place and her mother brought her back. She shot her mother with a BB gun thinking it was a real gun. She apparently was having sex with a com-con friend while she was secretly having a two-year relationship with Nick online behind her mother's back. She was sending cash and items to Nick and paid for him to come down twice to see her. The first time was when they had sex in the movie theatre. Her mother Dee Dee was sick (around the time of the murder) and Gypsy was the one giving her the insulin. I don't know how many drugs she was taking at that point. She had means and opportunity to just go with Nick and get on the bus taking her a laptop and phone with her. Nick is on the Autistic spectrum and is developmentally delayed. She was faking being developmentally delayed for years. She must have known he was developmentally delayed for real. She now plays this victim of "I didn't murder anyone." She downplays Nick. She needs to take responsibility for the fact she orchestrated this murder using Nick as a Patsy. She has served her time, but she needs to advocate (she doesn't need to contact Nick) for Nick's sentence to be reduced. She is just making herself look bad.
I feel bad for what Gypsy went thorough. Her mom was completely wrong. I feel Gypsy should have contacted the police and reported the abuse. I understand what she went your l through. I saw the documentaries, the movie etc, but that doesn't make murder the right choice. I'm happy that she is no longer going through the abuse she endured, but I don't condone what part she played or the choices that were made. I hope and pray she repented for her part in this and that she truly gives her life to God.
APPARENTLY SHE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT "HONOR THY FATHER AND MOTHER!" I DONT CARE WHATAYONE SAYS ABOUT HER MOM,SHE DIDNT DESERVE TO DIE!,THEY SHOULD HAVE KEPT THIS USELESS EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING!
It was definitely 100%, self defense. I know a lot of people are against her. But until you are HONEST about her situation, you would never see how she is innocent. Where was she going to turn? The doctors were on her mother's side. The mother had documents stating she was incapable of being responsible for herself. She had TRIED AND FAILED to run away. And learned first hand, just how bad her mom could be if she didn't behave. She had NO WAY OUT! Say what you want. But until YOU ARE TRAPPED, you have no right to say anything to or about her choices. I feel bad for her bf. He is autistic. That alone breaks my heart. BUT! HE WANTED to do it. Regardless of what she wanted. Look how brutal the murder was. He wanted to do it. He is dangerous. And Gypsy is not to blame for that. But I believe he needs to be in a medical hospital. Not prison. But regardless of the injustice to him, Gypsy is not responsible for that.
What about the medical evidence of the mom lying about those illnesses before she died before the surgeries to prevent this catastrophe? Thank you humanity for confirming how uber weak your doctors are on ethics? But trust these scientists right?
She was not lyied by her mother come on ,how naive are you! She was celebrating every birthday before they moved to louisiana! And also she never drank all this medication
The beginning facts are wrong. She was not in her 20s thinking she was 10, 11 or 12 lol she was 14 thinking she was 12…. So if she was 19 she thought she was 17. But yes her mother medicating her made her have side effects that Dee Dee called symptoms to illness’s. Tragic all around.
DeeDee was flushed down tbe toilet by her family. What about holding tbe Drs accountable, this could have been stopped if one of them had picked up a phone
Yes she was lied to about her age but it wasn’t that extreme 😂 more like 19 but actually 16/17. Y’all got it confused with the Natalia girl / the Ukrainian orphan
Ok Gypsy knew that she could walk, she knew that could eat not only that but around the time of that creepy performance, CPS was called in to their home from an anonymous tip, nothing happened because they interviewed them and they discovered that she was able to walk just fine and that she was 18 years old meaning an adult and the case was closed , So even if she "didn't know" about her age , she definitely found out right there and then and went along with the con anyway for 4/5 more years acting like a little child for financial gain and probably because of the toxic abusive codependency that she her mother had .
I live in Springfield, Gypsys house was minutes from our house. There is so much to unpack with this case that can't be portrayed in a movie, youtube, video ect. Understandably when this happened a lot of people here followed the case very closely and dug into everything they possibly could to be able to come to as much of an informed opinion as possible.
But the truth is Gypsy obviously has a lot of mental setbacks due to her abuse and being kept away from normal life for her entire childhood and watching the things I've seen since she was released I believe she is ripe to be abused and taken advantage of again, I hope I am wrong but the things shes posted and some things shes said show she is still not in a "right" frame of mind. She needs help not a movie deal.
I believe she’s had a lot of therapy and online education in jail, but you’re not wrong, she needs healthy support and the View people are not it. Honestly, if anyone reading this runs into her, invite her into a real Christian community, pray for her, befriend her. She has never had a “normal” life, but that doesn’t mean she can’t heal and break free from the past.
And remember. Right now this is how she is supporting herself. That said people would probably donate to a GiveSendGo without even needing her to tell her story, but part of her moving forward might be telling her story.
She is definitely at risk of being abused and used again. Apparently she has already gotten offers from people wanting her to make phorn. with her developmental disabilities and trauma I don't think anything good will come from all the fame. emotionally intelligent people have a hard time navigating celebrity status. She is going to need good people around her to get through this. I pray she comes to Christ.
i feel lilke she is smarter and more manipulative then people give her credit, her mother raised her to be, with that said the things she went thru was horrible and i hope she gets the help she needs and i fear what would happen if she were to become a mother to be honest
She refused a bunch of free, expensive professional help. Getting the 411 on life from a bunch of jail inmates isn't the same as professional help. And from the footage I've seen, I have no doubt if Nick was released she'd be right back with him. Who talks to the guy that killed and supposedly s. assaulted her right up to her wedding day? Tells her fiance she had a dream about leaving him for her killing partner literally days before the wedding? She's playing on everyone's sympathies and taking no responsibility for her part in her mother's death. Not saying others aren't taking advantage of her but it gives her what she wants too. And when she stops wanting it or doesn't like how things are going... well, we all know how she handled the last situation she no longer wanted to be in. This debate isn't just about her victim status, it's about public safety and her proven ability to take extreme, violent measures to handle a situation. She could have stood up out of that chair, proved her mother a liar, been rescued and hailed a hero. Instead in her mind she justified killing her own mother and manipulating an unstable autistic guy that wasn't right to begin with into throwing his life away. It's not all about emotion and sympathy, the facts and logic have to be considered too.
Looooots of parents are guilty of this when they trans their kids
Right on the money
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Exactly 👍🏾
Given permission by the experts themselves to live out this sickness.
Yeeeoooooooo. Absolutely!
She knew exactly 💯 percent wat she was doing
Those doctors should be investigated!!!! This is insane that doctors just do whatever yet I can’t get a specialist to look at an issue without demanding it.
She manipulated an autistic young man with sex and the allure of actually having a relationship into killing her mom. I do not believe she isn’t like her mother. She learned how to use people to serve her needs without doing the work herself.
That's a hot take that would make for some good conversation. Didn't think of it that way.
This is a foolish take. She had issues herself. Her mentality wasn't even of her proper age. She was a victim.
She was a victim that definitely turned monster briefly I suppose. The crime was not in self defense. Prison was right for her. Still a tragic incident that is a lot up for discussion
Unfortunately abuse victims learn to be manipulative themselves.
Autism is a spectrum it’s definitely possible he knew what he did. He was previously charged for molestation before he meet gypsy towards Other girls. Also there were possibly signs he might have been into forced bondage play.
She isn’t really a celebrity. The media made her into one. I don’t think she should be getting the press she is getting. She should be living a close to normal life. But all this publicity won’t really help her.
Certainly. But the American people will search for a “hero” in this filthy case. She has her 15 min of fame now but she will deal with trauma for all of her life. In which case I hope she finds restoration in the Lord and gives her life to Jesus
She’s not a celebrity she is infamous, there is a difference
@@ronnie-lynn most celebrities are infamous. And became famous because of those infamous moments.
if youre turning 11 for the past 12 years.. you might as well be playing along with the game.
He was exaggerating that, she was pretending to be 4 years older than her real age.
I truly believe that the Gypsy Rose Blanchard story is a prime example of parents do not drive your children to wrath
She said in the long form interview she had called police and basically mom convinced them she was intellectually disabled and didn’t know what she was doing/saying. Then mom threatened death. Glad to hear her still be accountable but man what a hard situation.
Came here to say the same thing.
This is exactly what I was going to say. Yes murder is wrong for sure but what do you do in that situation? Not saying that even gives you the right to kill, but her mother had manipulated everyone for years and they all believed her. Even if she hadn't previously gone to the police, that's immediately where my mind went. There's no way they would believe her with all the lies they had been fed. Just sick and horrible. Pray for her to get the truth of Jesus to truly set her free ♥
She knew her mom was a master manipulater Look how she worked doctors to operate on her. Sad case for sure
@wendygalligan8984 why must you guys always have to bring up religion? 🙄
She’s also said in other interviews she never called the cops cuz she assumed she wouldn’t be believed, so who knows the truth. I think she knows how to manipulate, & prob learned it from her mom. Def could’ve stood up & walked at any event, & told people about it, & she would’ve been believed. Many Drs suspected the mom cuz she never had medical records, & blamed them getting destroyed. There were just so many things wrong w/ all of this, & I truly pray she gets help cuz she def still needs it.
The doctors need to be put in jail too
The mother would leave town when they got suspicious.
To my understanding she did try to contact the police in the past and to get help in the past but each time she was returned to her mother and or her mother was told about her reaching out.
Nah Zac I'm with you, the police gets called but the Mom answers the door. If she can manipulate the doctors you think Gypsy didn't think she could manipulate the police too? Then her Mom would've punished her or attempted to. Also, she's just figuring out who she is as far as something small like her actual Age. And not that I'm saying she was dumb but she didn't have the mind of logical thinking adult.
She knew that she could walk… she ran away once and her mother found her then chained her to her bed for a few weeks
How could doctors go along with Deedee?!!?! They are doctors!!! How could they confirm she was sick??? Cancer?? That’s what I’m so confused about….were the doctors questioned? Where are they now? People are reported to other doctors & pharmacies when they try to go to multiple clinics for prescription medication…why wasn’t this done in Gypsy’s case? Her name should have been flagged in the medical system…
If you look at Her medical records, there is no Discussion about any kind of Cancer. and they did a muscle test for muscular dystrophy, and it was negative, Thats in the charts. She was not being treated for all of these things like we have been hearing. a lot of the stuff we have been hearing in the media all these years isn't true. the good wiveschannel has all her medical records.
@@themagicalcapricorn very interesting I will have to take a look…thank you!
She moved when they got suspicious. Many Drs suspected her.
Many Drs did suspect her, even called CPS on her. She would move if they got suspicious, but the last place they lived, they lived for a while, & I think people did get suspicious, but gypsy playing along so well prob made them feel bad for asking questions. She seemed to love the attention as much as her mom. She could have got up & walked at any time, called her mother out, anything, but she didn’t. She snuck out & met other men, before Nick, so she could’ve walked into a police station told her story, & they’d of had to investigate. So many people at fault here.
I think this is a situation that empathize with with guilty, and accept the punishment they are given. I don't think a lot of people would have done much different if that was their reality. Sin lead to this, sins came from this... This is what it means for sin to multiply. Pray for children and adults that suffered in ways like this.
She didn’t move cities when the doctor caught on but they switched doctors, she did make them away from all family though. She knew she could walk to. Her mom didn’t allow her to but she could walk fine, but was compliant to her mom.
What is wrong was that she plotted the murder and manipulated someone to do it and then the person who did it, saved her from her mothers abuse is serving life in prison, while she did a lesser sentence and out and about shifting blame onto him. Im not minimizing the abuse, but its not an excuse to do what she did. also, she became her mother a liar and a manipulator. Let's hope she changes and does better in society, but theres alot to this story.
I wish people would understand how DV victims do not always have access to police. And the abuser most likely makes threats, etc. Maybe she did call the police on prior times before the murder. But her mom found a way to convince the police just like she manipulated the doctors.
I hope that she, her current boyfriend and Nick Godejohn all come to faith in Yeshua (Jesus) only he redeems and sets free.
She knew her age, and that she could walk.
I don’t think she was tied to the bed for days. She will say anything to make her more of a victim. To justify having her mum killed. We only have her word what happened inside the house. And her mum was ill. And to have your mum brutally killed while she slept. Shows you what type of mind she has. And wouldn’t trust a word she says.
I think she has serious mental health issues and I don't believe she should have the following she does. What she did was wrong, no matter what. Her past is tragic but there are other options for relief, aside from MURDER. She needs help. Still.
The "authorities" have not been able to help her at all, instead were helping her Mom to continue the abuse...so i think the self-defense case holds, if she felt like she could not turn to authorities which had proved to believe her Mom's version of reality over and over again. Poor girl
She been through trauma since she was little and probably will have the same trauma for the rest of her life …some Christians including me have gone thru trauma and will have it for the rest of thier lives including me.
It’s a sad reality but it’s true
Why do you have to hold on to it?
@@Spokenwisdom1sometimes it is not a choice. Your brain chemistry can actually change after something traumatic.
@@Spokenwisdom1Look at what Paul suffered through
@@jadeblackwell6227 yes unfortunately
Jesus is bigger than anyone’s brain chemistry.
You guys said she couldn't get up and leave, but she could. She walked at home when no one was around, she walked to let the guy into the house, she left without a wheelchair. She didn't ask for help, she didn't leave or show she could walk. She chose to hatch a plan to kill her own mother. Sane people don't decide this is the best way to handle a situation. Having sex after the fact with her dead mother in the next room is disturbing. Her claims of rape are moot bc she continued to talk to the guy while in prison, even after she was in a relationship with her current husband and could easily have no contact with Nick. Give it time, people will see her for what she is. Especially if she keeps admitting in interviews how capable she is of lies and manipulation thanks to her mother's tutelage.
I think that she didn’t know she could talk to the police and she didn’t know that they would believe her because the mom always told her that everyone always believes her
The guy keeps saying she could not walk but she could. She knew she could walk but was afraid to defy her mother and let someone know she could walk.
This girl was soooo abused, on every level, by her sick and insane ‘mother’. I don’t think she saw any other way out. She needed a lot of HELP, not prison, in my humble opinion. Wow! 🤦🏻♀️
She needed both. She masterminded a murder, and threw Nick under the bus. So she deserved to be punished, then helped.
After seeing the Hulu series, I would follow on Instagram if I was younger but I started to hate the whole reality star celebrity stuff. I want to focus on my relationship with Jesus. I definitely pray for her, I hope she doesn’t get used and stays healthy and grounded.
True Christians don't murder people. Thou shalt not murder. It's a commandment. Jesus Christ said the gates command was love the Lord your God with all your heart mind and soul. The second is like it. Love your neighbor as yourself. Just because someone claims to be a Christian doesn't make them one.
I think she colluded with her mother in the last years, all the silly huge smiles and dressing like a five year old. She could have walked away, she always says she knew she could walk
I’m wondering if the reason why Gypsy didn’t seek out police was because she assumed they wouldn’t believe her. She watched her mother her entire life manipulate and lie to doctors, and they believed her. Not only that, but Gypsy was supposedly mentally impaired (as documented by her mother)
I'm of that opinion and I may be wrong but I think in one interview she even said that. I think she served her time and honestly need extensive therapy or even placed in an institution for severely abused kids that lived if one even exists.
For other options too many cases have children going to the police first and the parents pretty much manipulating them or they can't find any legal means to remove the child from the home cause there's no immediate danger present. I'd say she need to find a trusted neighbor and show that the mom has been lying and help her to get in touch with someone aside from the police that can help her gather enough evidence to prove the mom was lying and finally go to the police.
Basically the police for me now is treatment plan for after something happens and it's really rare for them to be a preventive, that is the laws themselves and we see how that works out.
She DID contact the police about it. They didn't believe her. Dee Dee had convinced everyone, including Gypsy that she was younger than she was. She convinced the police that Gypsy was mentally delayed, and mistaking protective parenting for abuse. The police believed Dee Dee, so they didn't help Gypsy.
As a victim of abuse myself, I KNOW for a FACT that it can be practically impossible to get help from law enforcement and government officials in cases of domestic abuse (whether it is abuse from parents, spouses, or siblings).
That's why I think it was self-defense. But, I think Gypsy is manipulative, without even realizing it; because of the way she requested help from the boy, then threw him away like trash and basically labeled him as a psychotic killer, when he was trying to rescue her.
Right off the bat you got the facts wrong. Gypsy did not think she was ten when she was in her twenties. She was told she was nineteen, but she knew that was not true and that she was 23. Her mom reminded her age by 4 years but Gypsy knew how old she really was.
12:55
as a staunch pro-lifer, dont compare this to abortion.
Gypsy did attempt to seek help from the police. Just like her mother manipulated Doctors, her mother manipulated police into believing that she wasnt of sound mind, and the cops took her right back to her mother without question.
Its also known she ran away from home once and her mother caught her and chained her to a bed for over a week.
Her mother was killing her with every dose of medication, every unnecessary surgery, the malnutrition of living off of pedialyte and meal replacements her entire life.
What, pray tell, would you have had gypsy do? she exausted all non violent options as much as she could before escalating to murder.
As a survivor of abuse its disgusting to watch christian men downplay a survivor of extreme, daily abuse, and hmm and haw about her acting in violence to end her abuse when she went about every non-violent avenue to be put right back into her abusers hands by the very people who should have helped her.
Self defense- *true* self defense is justified and perfectly fine.
This might have been premeditated, but it was premeditated as a final option.
Rape alone doesnt kill, but id be pretty justified in a murder of self defense if i was kidnapped, locked away, and raped day in and out by my kidnapper. replace rape with poison and you have Gypsys case.
I agree.
My take on this: When did Gypsy figure out she wasn’t sick?
When did Gypsy figure out she could actually walk?
When did Gypsy figure out anything and how long did she keep faking it with her Mom & the doctors?
For someone who was always in a wheelchair, she sure walked fine out of the house that night & in to the court room.
I understand her Mom abused her, but when did Gypsy figure that out?
Like the Turpin 13, children ages 2 - 29 who were finally set free from horrific treatment & abuse living in a house of horrors.
There’s a movie on max that explains a lot
Her daughter knew what was going on before it happened, why couldn’t she tell the doctors no.. why manipulate an autistic boy with prior history of violence knowing she could dump the blame on him…
two wrongs don’t make a right. And something is off about this whole situation and her
She did tell the drs. She did call the police. They all sided with her mother. When she ran away, her mother chained her up for 9 days.
She did go to the police. The mom convinced them she didn’t know what she was talking about due to mental disability
She was poisoning her and drugging her daily. And her mom did beat her and tie her to the bed. I also feel like she could have asked for help. HOWEVER, she was raised in a completely warped situation. She saw her mother manipulating doctors...she may have believed her mom could manipulate the police as well.
I Knew , Because A lady at my Church Lived in Springfield Missouri Where they Lived ! The knew the Faimly and Horrific Abuse ! Gypsy's mind is like a Child because of It !! Her plotting to kill her mom was wrong , Because She did have several times of OPURTUNITY!! Yet Her Trama was severe!! And this is a Extremely Sad situation! But only the Doctors know her true mindset and thoughts! Murder is wrong! But none of us who have never been in a state of Severe Trama Can't fairly Say Was it wrong ? Or was it Rigjt ?? ONLY GODS KNOWS 🙏🏻 When show our Emphathy as Christians , but we can't jude either way !! Vengeance belongs to God ! God is always in control and aware ! As Christians we must always start out from a place of love ! I myself saw the Series years back after everything!! I only know I don't hold any type of Qualifications to said How I would react in that state of Trama !! Though I 'd like to believe that "MURDER " would not be the way ! It would be devastating to live with I would believe,, weather justified or not !!!! 🙌✝️❤️🔥⚘️🕊🙏🏻
Killing is killing, she could’ve left with the boyfriend/ cops but decided her only option was to take out her mom. Well idk what to tell you but I’m pretty sure this is a big sin 😬
@@STI.RicarditoExactly. People forget prison is meant for ppl who are dangers to society. If you cannot control your urge to m*rder than you don’t belong on the streets
Murder was wrong she could ran away you should not killing in ten commandments God gave us she without excuse had choice when boyfriend came he could report it took to police station
I think people fail to realize how hard it is to know what your options really are, and to concentrate on solutions, when you are being habitually tortured, threatened, talked down to, manipulated, controlled, and mostly isolated from people who might help you.
I didn't have the same thing happen to me that happened to Gypsy. However, I experienced my own form of extreme abuse. I know my mind flooded with thoughts including trying to run away and possibly be caught and killed of severely hurt in the attempt, killing the abuser just to make sure I would never be hurt again (but, having to kill someone wasn't something I wanted to do), or even killing myself just so I wouldn't have to kill the abuser but wouldn't get hurt anymore myself. I escaped. That left permanent bad consequences for me too.
Once I got away, I realized running away was the best solution for me. But, at the time I was being abused, I wasn't sure I could escape. Logically, the surefire way to stop my abuser from hurting me was to commit suicide. But, I wanted to try to live.
Anyway, I will never judge someone else in a similar situation, because they chose a different potential solution than I chose, just to avoid being constantly tortured or abused. Her mom should have never put her in that situation to begin with.
It is easy to judge someone from a distance when you have never experienced something similar. But, when you have, you understand how a decent person can choose a seemingly evil solution. I chose to try to escape my abuser. I was willing to accept the consequnces if my attempt failed (revenge could be sought and I could get hurt badly or killed). But, I succeeded. I can't Gypsy harshly for not wanting to accept that was the possible consequence for her if she attempted to leave her mom again, and her mom tried to stop her.😊
2:46 when I heard that they met on a Christian dating site it also reminded me of this incident of one lady years ago who met a serial killer on a Christian dating site called Christian Mingle
Also she said was found that she was abuse after arrest.
Her mom also had similar experience with her mom .
Very creepy everything.
Gypsy rose Blanchard was born in 1991 so she's the same age as me. So she was 14 when she moved to Louisiana in 2005 the whole story is crazy.
She should be behind the bars her husband better watch for her she is a professional murder I imagine the cops watch her very close
This is my option they both worked together to take people for all they could get ...how can you not know your age ?
Right she don’t know her age but she knows how old she was when she was r by her grandfather
I feel bad for the boy he is still in prison and she is not and dumped him.
Poor woman, she still sounds like a child, right? This is horrifying.
There are people out here that have been through more than Gypsy and they did not manipulate a man to kill their mom. Gypsy should still be in prison. The guy is definitely mentally ill and should not be in prison.
Nick was 26 at the time of the murder not 24. He met Gypsy when he was 24.
She was 17 when she sang at that event. But believed she was 15 at that time.
She admits she walked around her house , she was only in a wheelchair around people.
Gypsy is not totally innocent
She set it up and the boy got the shaft. He shouldn't have done it, but he believed her.
Although i sympathize with why she did it i dont believe it was her only option. Ending somebody should be a last resort. She absolutely could have gotten help. Maybe she felt like nobody would believe her and redrum was her only option. Either way it was not her only option. What her mother did to her was awful and evil and wrong but what she did was the same. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Agreed
She agrees with you. She has said many times she should not have killed her mom.
It was self-defense
Gypsy called police from what I remember and she also has tried to run away but her mom has caught her and locked her in a shed.
Her mom wanted attention by having a sick kid. Now the daughter is liking the attention from the media circuits. Not a good idea.
Ok, she knew she could walk, & she could walk for a long time. She met a man before Nick, & her mom caught her at his house. She was meeting men on the internet for a while. She was in on some of the scams cuz she liked the attention, too, but not to the degree of her mother. It’s apparent even now w/ all this attention she’s trying to get now. The whole situation is sad, & she should have reached out for help. All she had to do is get up at an event, walk, & tell people, everyone would believe that. Many Drs were suspicious of her. Her mother looked like she didn’t have long when it happened, she was way closer to death. She was physically ill cuz of her diabetes. The series “The Act,” chronicled some of it, but we’ll never get the whole story. I pray for her, & any kids in this situation.
After what she went through, you can’t think for one second she wasn’t mentally ruined and yes murder is not ok but from a distance can you not think that mom deserved it? But all in all she should’ve just run away and stayed gone once she knew she was 19
Yeah what a good Christian man to not call the cops, and hold on to his strong allegiance to his woman.
I live where this happened! I seen it in real time. It was crazy.
"The Crusades have entered the chat" LOLLLL
Gypsy was never poisoned and she could walk just fine, she could have run out of her house to the neighbors for help. This guy doesn’t have the correct story. It didn’t have to go down like this
She was medicated by her mother. Those medications she didn’t need, that caused her side effects mimicking symptoms of illnesses. In a way that is a parent “poisoning” but I wouldn’t call it that personally but it’s not far off. Also lots of people that are prisoners held captive could have maybe escaped but didn’t. It effects you mentally abuse like this so to you it’s as easy as going to the neighbours but to someone being abused it’s not that simple.
I noticed everything she says. Especially her prison interview. When she said. I'm going to tell the parole board what ever I need to to get parole. Not telll them everything she learned and has worked on. Just im gonna tell them what they want to hear. If you watch the series. And make your own opinion. She is not the victim. She was. But she was not when she killed her mom and she's not a victim now.
Seen a movie about this the other day... it was well done
Im pretty sure she did try to contact police many times, but they just sent he back to her mom after being told that she was intellectually challenged.
It wasn’t Christianity that made Nick do what he did. He did it for gypsy. Love makes you do some crazy things. I can tell you firsthand that the medical institutions are only there because they want money. Yes, there are some good people in the medical industry but that’s far and in between. And then, when you do find a good doctor, the hospital they work for is usually only in it for the money. I personally have experienced that not only when I thought I was trans but when I had my last two babies. My obgyn is amazing while the hospital he delivers at is crap. Yeah look at Kyle Rittenhouse. He is traumatized by what he had to do. Was he justified in doing what he did no but he was defending himself and businesses. I think god can see the difference in the intent of the killing. I don’t think self defense is a sin. Yes in the Bible, it does say thou shall not kill. But it doesn’t say in the Bible that you cannot defend yourself.
The whole family is crazy. Do your research people.
Yoo, why is the cohost laughing as he talks about the fact that Gypsy was lied to about her age? That was a significant part of the abuse and isn’t funny. It’s just not a good look. 😕
Please look into everything out there before you get played by this girl and her situation. There is a group of people that had medical records and worked closely to her and others in this scandal.
Please get all the information because this goes very deep.
Gypsy knew she could walk. In fact, Gypsy could walk just fine. Gypsy was suspicious about her age as she was getting older. She was born in 1991. In 2005 she would have been 13-14 depending on when the video was made. She had run away in the past to a local man's place and her mother brought her back. She shot her mother with a BB gun thinking it was a real gun. She apparently was having sex with a com-con friend while she was secretly having a two-year relationship with Nick online behind her mother's back. She was sending cash and items to Nick and paid for him to come down twice to see her. The first time was when they had sex in the movie theatre. Her mother Dee Dee was sick (around the time of the murder) and Gypsy was the one giving her the insulin. I don't know how many drugs she was taking at that point. She had means and opportunity to just go with Nick and get on the bus taking her a laptop and phone with her. Nick is on the Autistic spectrum and is developmentally delayed. She was faking being developmentally delayed for years. She must have known he was developmentally delayed for real. She now plays this victim of "I didn't murder anyone." She downplays Nick. She needs to take responsibility for the fact she orchestrated this murder using Nick as a Patsy. She has served her time, but she needs to advocate (she doesn't need to contact Nick) for Nick's sentence to be reduced. She is just making herself look bad.
I feel bad for what Gypsy went thorough. Her mom was completely wrong. I feel Gypsy should have contacted the police and reported the abuse. I understand what she went your l through. I saw the documentaries, the movie etc, but that doesn't make murder the right choice. I'm happy that she is no longer going through the abuse she endured, but I don't condone what part she played or the choices that were made. I hope and pray she repented for her part in this and that she truly gives her life to God.
Free Menendez brothers also give them new trial
Why didn’t she contact the cops ?
Also, I'm not positive, but pretty sure there are questions about whether she and her mother were even there for hurricane Katrina.
Is all this media attention going to turn her into her mom?
Her mother had her teeth removed.
Damn
APPARENTLY SHE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT "HONOR THY FATHER AND MOTHER!" I DONT CARE WHATAYONE SAYS ABOUT HER MOM,SHE DIDNT DESERVE TO DIE!,THEY SHOULD HAVE KEPT THIS USELESS EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING!
There was also talk that her mom was doing voodoo on Gypsy.
It was definitely 100%, self defense. I know a lot of people are against her. But until you are HONEST about her situation, you would never see how she is innocent.
Where was she going to turn? The doctors were on her mother's side. The mother had documents stating she was incapable of being responsible for herself. She had TRIED AND FAILED to run away. And learned first hand, just how bad her mom could be if she didn't behave. She had NO WAY OUT! Say what you want. But until YOU ARE TRAPPED, you have no right to say anything to or about her choices.
I feel bad for her bf. He is autistic. That alone breaks my heart. BUT! HE WANTED to do it. Regardless of what she wanted. Look how brutal the murder was. He wanted to do it. He is dangerous. And Gypsy is not to blame for that. But I believe he needs to be in a medical hospital. Not prison. But regardless of the injustice to him, Gypsy is not responsible for that.
and to make it worse doctors can get their degrees online now
What about the medical evidence of the mom lying about those illnesses before she died before the surgeries to prevent this catastrophe?
Thank you humanity for confirming how uber weak your doctors are on ethics? But trust these scientists right?
The police woulda made it worse
No she was only told she was a little bit younger than she was.
Being a single mother should be outlawed.
Why?
She was not lyied by her mother come on ,how naive are you! She was celebrating every birthday before they moved to louisiana! And also she never drank all this medication
24 she was, mom said is 19.
The beginning facts are wrong. She was not in her 20s thinking she was 10, 11 or 12 lol she was 14 thinking she was 12…. So if she was 19 she thought she was 17. But yes her mother medicating her made her have side effects that Dee Dee called symptoms to illness’s. Tragic all around.
DeeDee was flushed down tbe toilet by her family. What about holding tbe Drs accountable, this could have been stopped if one of them had picked up a phone
Might wanna do some research guys. Gypsy is not a victim. 😂
Damn could you stop that ear splitting noise in the background.
Yes she was lied to about her age but it wasn’t that extreme 😂 more like 19 but actually 16/17. Y’all got it confused with the Natalia girl / the Ukrainian orphan
Gbu all
It’s bad and sad
Nothing pretty about her
That music is terrible
417 bro
Ok Gypsy knew that she could walk, she knew that could eat not only that but around the time of that creepy performance, CPS was called in to their home from an anonymous tip, nothing happened because they interviewed them and they discovered that she was able to walk just fine and that she was 18 years old meaning an adult and the case was closed , So even if she "didn't know" about her age , she definitely found out right there and then and went along with the con anyway for 4/5 more years acting like a little child for financial gain and probably because of the toxic abusive codependency that she her mother had .