I bought an HP Z440 in 2021 for $230 Australian on eBay. Put a HP Turbo pci-e nvme adaptor and an HP Gen 4 nvme in it for $60 total. 32g ddr4 and 4 cores running 3.5 turbo boost. It blazes hard.
Hey Matt, thanks for this great overveiw of the Z600 - I've just subscribed. I bought my Z600 about 6 years ago two X5560's and 48Gb RAM - like yours. I want to upgrade to SSD. I notice you only went to SSD 1Tb. Is there a limit on this with this computer or can I go to 2Tb? The HP website doesn't say. Also if I wanted to upgrade to USB 3.0...any advice on that? Keep up the great work mate...good show.
so, unsure if you can go past 2TB with the onboard sata drives, i have a feeling you can as i had a 4tb in mine iirc. but honestly i wouldn't put money on my memory of that right now. i did put a USB3 PCIe card in and that was fine. :)
Some laugh at my 3 Z600's. I use MS Flight Simulator on one and cut a slot for the 1070 to exhaust heat. I used one with SSD's for any work related work and VMs, and one as a 100% backup for the office. All of them were new when I got them and have yet to give me issues. I cannot upgrade to Win 11 due to the TPMS. BitLocker works, so I guess I'll upgrade one day, not until after 2025. :)
I have z600, and until recently , I had a mate who would , via "anydesk" , and video chat, help me sort out my problems (I have several music DAWs installed, I don't do video edits) long story short, he has a different lifestyle now and doesn't really have time or energy to help me, (I'm really not tech savvy at all) He helped me take things out that were broken, a rearrange stuff and install parts,. But now I'm kinda up shit creek without a paddle,.so I guess my question to you, is: What/ where's an easy info to learn how to work on my Z600 ? I know one of the CPUs wasn't up to snuff , so we taken it out , along with rearranging some fans and what- not . I notice when I push my load via music , it freezes and crashes
urm, taking out a cpu, rearranging fans, and now a fault with loud music (vibration) - i think you may have a faulty motherboard, which are the hardest intermittent faults to prove either way. personally i would cut my losses - but another pc, move the hard drives over and then just recycle the old one, rather than spend hours fault finding. but where to find info - youtube is great, and lost of non z600 info will apply.
That such a brother seems fantastic to me the way you have to explain and assemble those super computers, I have a hp z600 v1 with two x5520s and I want to upgrade them to two x5570s, my question is the following: is it necessary to buy the "PAIRED" or "PAIRED" processors "to work together, or can I buy 2 x5570 and it will work normally? I really appreciate the clarification, a hug
So paired processors are just 2 that share the same model number, and ideally batch number. i've not had issues using processors from different machines in other different machines - breaking their pairing if you will - but they MUST be the same model of CPU usually.
@@CrazyLogic FYI I have hp z600 ver1 and ver 2 and a hp z800 and they all support 56xx cpus if you run the HP bios Update found under windows7 64bit. it runs on win10 dont worry.
Hi there , thanks for the video , I got HP - Z620 workstation with Intel(R) Xeon (R) CPU E5-1620 V2 @3.70GHz (4- Cores 8 Threads), 128GB DDR3 RAM. I would like to know whether I can upgrade to a newer processor on this work station? if so please suggest the CPU model And finally does it make a difference in performence if I do so.? thanks in advance.
Thats a pretty beasty workstation as it is but the Z620 supports Intel Xeon E5-2600v1 and E5-2600v2 series processors, so have a look here www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-Intel_(chipsets)/C602.html . The E5-2697 would be the best option on paper but i haven't tried it, and there aren't too many references to it online either.
@@CrazyLogic Thank you so much for the swift response really appreciate it , sorry to bother upgrading to 26*** family does it make a difference in speed majorly as I use more SQL based apps with large volume of data or it won't be make a much difference. Thanks in advance.
@@Techstuff007 Thats a difficult one to answer without being an SQL Guru and knowing your specifics - the trade off here is CPU single thread speed, how multithreaded it can be and how multiple NUMA nodes affect things... it's a bit beyond my expertise
I have a hp z600 with two x5670's 24gb ram and I stuck an SSD in it, I was looking into getting a PCI sata card to boost my SSD to 6gb/s but theres lots of compatibility issues and you need to get the correct one. Do you know any information on this?
well you're right about the lots of potential issues. I have an SATA SSD in mine - it's 6G capable but running at 3G, so in a similar situation. Do you really need the additional speed? will your SSD actually gain much? what is the top speed the SSD can deliver - mine deffo isn't able to max a 6G link out. If it's a SATA SSD then a SATA card running at 6G will work, just be carefull which PCIe slot you put it in, the 2 x16 slots and the x8 - 4 electrical are connected to the IOH and PCIe ver 2, the other x8 slot - 4 electrical is a PCIe ver 1 and connected to the ICH, which is where the 6 SATA ports are also connected. Maximum throughput isn't really a concern for one drive - but with more drives you'll want it in a x16 v2 slot on the IOH. See page 14 of the manual for the block diagram
@@CrazyLogic you're very right there, you should upgrade your cpus to x5670s or x5675's as they're always really cheap, If you don't need a high thread counts , the x5672's are good as each core will have a higher clockspeed
@@karl02756 yeah - if i was buying CPU's i would look closely at my core count vs speed but i have the x5650's so they'll do. it's rare that all of them will be pegged tho.
Can I use 2 CPU with different frequencies on my Xenon motherboard. CPU (1) xenon 5690 and CPU (2) Xenon X5672 ? And also I have installed 24.0 GB of RAM but only using 12.0 GB. How and where do I get the update of the Bios software?
The simple answer is NO - they need to be matched CPUid's - if the machine is running it'll have likely disabled the 2nd CPU, along with the RAM attached to it. Each CPU has it's own RAM slots. (two numa nodes)
@@CrazyLogic okay thanks for the quick reply, I have the X5672 processor, do you think it’s better in terms of performance to get another identical X5672 or just upgrade to a single X5672 CPU. And also how can I make full use of my 24.0 GB of ram? Thanks in advance!🙏
I'm not sure it would benefit much as the rtx will be pushing the limits of most components within the system. I would want a machine 2 generations newer to warrant moving to rtx. But power wise, it depends what else you have going on in your system.
@@CrazyLogic I have z600 to, i have GTX 1070 and works really well... And as 3d graphic, work in blender, i consider to upgrade, i was thinking about rtx card, but... If is better to upgrade to new case/base/workstation, which would you buy?
@@mardeusz_pl Well this is a very much an 'it depends' - if your work load is GPU accelerated then upping the GPU is the obvious move, but what you really want to do is find the bottleneck and remove that. you may find it's the PCIe bandwidth on the machine or the storage can't feed data quick enough to the GPU to make full use ect.... for RTX you'll deffo want to upgrade your base i would say.
I've just aquired a Z600 this is the spec... HP Z600 - 2x Intel Xeon X5675@3.06GHz 6C, 48 GB, 1 TB 7.2k, Quadro K600, W10Pro Can you recommend a better graphics card for me please? Much appreciated ✌️
@@MackemdownsouthF.T.M i use a 1050 for KSP and it does fine, i suspect something like that would be fine also for your casual - tbh gaming wise, LTT, gamers nexus, Jays2Cents et al. would be good places to look.
@@stevenlevittt the z600 doesn't have graphics built in so you'll need a GPU. the GPu will define if you can have dual monitors or not. I've been running mine with a 750ti in and it's been running dual mons at 1080 just fine for work and some play.
I bought an HP Z440 in 2021 for $230 Australian on eBay. Put a HP Turbo pci-e nvme adaptor and an HP Gen 4 nvme in it for $60 total. 32g ddr4 and 4 cores running 3.5 turbo boost. It blazes hard.
THANKS A LOT. I was searching for this summarised information but couldn't. Thanks again!!!
Very helpful. With all these details, it is especially useful to have a detailed contents. Thanks.
Hey Matt, thanks for this great overveiw of the Z600 - I've just subscribed. I bought my Z600 about 6 years ago two X5560's and 48Gb RAM - like yours. I want to upgrade to SSD. I notice you only went to SSD 1Tb. Is there a limit on this with this computer or can I go to 2Tb? The HP website doesn't say. Also if I wanted to upgrade to USB 3.0...any advice on that? Keep up the great work mate...good show.
so, unsure if you can go past 2TB with the onboard sata drives, i have a feeling you can as i had a 4tb in mine iirc. but honestly i wouldn't put money on my memory of that right now. i did put a USB3 PCIe card in and that was fine. :)
@@CrazyLogic Brilliant thanks Matt. A great help👍. Keep up the sterling work.
I have a HP Proliant ML350 G6. My Father has a HP Z240 Workstation. Make both good job.
thank you for sharing important information, you explained important needed for upgrading z600 clearly
Most welcome - any Questions or things i may have missed?
Some laugh at my 3 Z600's. I use MS Flight Simulator on one and cut a slot for the 1070 to exhaust heat. I used one with SSD's for any work related work and VMs, and one as a 100% backup for the office. All of them were new when I got them and have yet to give me issues. I cannot upgrade to Win 11 due to the TPMS. BitLocker works, so I guess I'll upgrade one day, not until after 2025. :)
You can easily remove the new requirements for win11. I'm running it now on my z600.
It warms my heart that HP are still using Compaq format part numbers
That is interesting.
I got one for $80 with dual Xeon X5675, Quadro K2200 4GB, and 48GB ddr3 ram.
Nice - what's your intended use for it?
@@CrazyLogic I am using it a a Hyper-V host machine. :)
I have z600, and until recently , I had a mate who would , via "anydesk" , and video chat, help me sort out my problems (I have several music DAWs installed, I don't do video edits) long story short, he has a different lifestyle now and doesn't really have time or energy to help me,
(I'm really not tech savvy at all)
He helped me take things out that were broken, a rearrange stuff and install parts,. But now I'm kinda up shit creek without a paddle,.so I guess my question to you, is:
What/ where's an easy info to learn how to work on my Z600 ?
I know one of the CPUs wasn't up to snuff , so we taken it out , along with rearranging some fans and what- not .
I notice when I push my load via music , it freezes and crashes
urm, taking out a cpu, rearranging fans, and now a fault with loud music (vibration) - i think you may have a faulty motherboard, which are the hardest intermittent faults to prove either way. personally i would cut my losses - but another pc, move the hard drives over and then just recycle the old one, rather than spend hours fault finding. but where to find info - youtube is great, and lost of non z600 info will apply.
do you know if the hp z600 is compatible with the Nvidia Quadro M4000? thanks
yes it is
I have the same unit and love it.
That such a brother seems fantastic to me the way you have to explain and assemble those super computers, I have a hp z600 v1 with two x5520s and I want to upgrade them to two x5570s, my question is the following: is it necessary to buy the "PAIRED" or "PAIRED" processors "to work together, or can I buy 2 x5570 and it will work normally? I really appreciate the clarification, a hug
So paired processors are just 2 that share the same model number, and ideally batch number. i've not had issues using processors from different machines in other different machines - breaking their pairing if you will - but they MUST be the same model of CPU usually.
@@CrazyLogic FYI I have hp z600 ver1 and ver 2 and a hp z800 and they all support 56xx cpus if you run the HP bios Update found under windows7 64bit. it runs on win10 dont worry.
Hi there , thanks for the video , I got HP - Z620 workstation with Intel(R) Xeon (R) CPU E5-1620 V2 @3.70GHz (4- Cores 8 Threads), 128GB DDR3 RAM.
I would like to know whether I can upgrade to a newer processor on this work station? if so please suggest the CPU model
And finally does it make a difference in performence if I do so.? thanks in advance.
Thats a pretty beasty workstation as it is but the Z620 supports Intel Xeon E5-2600v1 and E5-2600v2 series processors, so have a look here www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-Intel_(chipsets)/C602.html . The E5-2697 would be the best option on paper but i haven't tried it, and there aren't too many references to it online either.
@@CrazyLogic Thank you so much for the swift response really appreciate it , sorry to bother upgrading to 26*** family does it make a difference in speed majorly as I use more SQL based apps with large volume of data or it won't be make a much difference. Thanks in advance.
@@Techstuff007 Thats a difficult one to answer without being an SQL Guru and knowing your specifics - the trade off here is CPU single thread speed, how multithreaded it can be and how multiple NUMA nodes affect things... it's a bit beyond my expertise
@@CrazyLogic Thank you that's totally understandable. Appreciate your kind response. thanks so much.
I have a hp z600 with two x5670's 24gb ram and I stuck an SSD in it, I was looking into getting a PCI sata card to boost my SSD to 6gb/s but theres lots of compatibility issues and you need to get the correct one. Do you know any information on this?
well you're right about the lots of potential issues. I have an SATA SSD in mine - it's 6G capable but running at 3G, so in a similar situation. Do you really need the additional speed? will your SSD actually gain much? what is the top speed the SSD can deliver - mine deffo isn't able to max a 6G link out. If it's a SATA SSD then a SATA card running at 6G will work, just be carefull which PCIe slot you put it in, the 2 x16 slots and the x8 - 4 electrical are connected to the IOH and PCIe ver 2, the other x8 slot - 4 electrical is a PCIe ver 1 and connected to the ICH, which is where the 6 SATA ports are also connected. Maximum throughput isn't really a concern for one drive - but with more drives you'll want it in a x16 v2 slot on the IOH. See page 14 of the manual for the block diagram
@@CrazyLogic I see I predict I could get an extra 100-200mbps possibly out of at as I have Samsung Evo 860
@@karl02756 That would only be a 3-7% increase on the 3Gb max speed. Is it really worth it for that alone?
@@CrazyLogic you're very right there, you should upgrade your cpus to x5670s or x5675's as they're always really cheap, If you don't need a high thread counts , the x5672's are good as each core will have a higher clockspeed
@@karl02756 yeah - if i was buying CPU's i would look closely at my core count vs speed but i have the x5650's so they'll do. it's rare that all of them will be pegged tho.
Can I use 2 CPU with different frequencies on my Xenon motherboard. CPU (1) xenon 5690 and CPU (2) Xenon X5672 ?
And also I have installed 24.0 GB of RAM but only using 12.0 GB. How and where do I get the update of the Bios software?
The simple answer is NO - they need to be matched CPUid's - if the machine is running it'll have likely disabled the 2nd CPU, along with the RAM attached to it. Each CPU has it's own RAM slots. (two numa nodes)
@@CrazyLogic okay thanks for the quick reply, I have the X5672 processor, do you think it’s better in terms of performance to get another identical X5672 or just upgrade to a single X5672 CPU. And also how can I make full use of my 24.0 GB of ram? Thanks in advance!🙏
@@7pinky791 a single processor will mean only 3 slots being usable. to use all 6 you'll need 2 matched CPU's
@@CrazyLogic I see, so it’s not the bios. In order to make the rest of the memory available. I need 2 identical CPUs. Cool got it.
@@7pinky791 yeah 3 channels off each CPU - have a google of 'xeon 5500 diagram' to see a block diagram which will help understand
which new gpu rtx card can z600 afford?
i have gtx 1050 plugged in and want to upgrade the card
I'm not sure it would benefit much as the rtx will be pushing the limits of most components within the system. I would want a machine 2 generations newer to warrant moving to rtx. But power wise, it depends what else you have going on in your system.
@@CrazyLogic I have z600 to, i have GTX 1070 and works really well...
And as 3d graphic, work in blender, i consider to upgrade, i was thinking about rtx card, but...
If is better to upgrade to new case/base/workstation, which would you buy?
@@mardeusz_pl Well this is a very much an 'it depends' - if your work load is GPU accelerated then upping the GPU is the obvious move, but what you really want to do is find the bottleneck and remove that. you may find it's the PCIe bandwidth on the machine or the storage can't feed data quick enough to the GPU to make full use ect.... for RTX you'll deffo want to upgrade your base i would say.
i have a z600 with rtx 2060 inside, but everytime i push it the system just turn off agreesively.I think that i have to swap my psu into 750-800w.
I've just aquired a Z600 this is the spec...
HP Z600 - 2x Intel Xeon X5675@3.06GHz 6C,
48 GB, 1 TB 7.2k, Quadro K600, W10Pro
Can you recommend a better graphics card for me please?
Much appreciated ✌️
Many options for GPU. what are you planning to do with the machine?
Thanks for replying...
Nothing too serious but I'd like to be able to play some titles like Battlefield, cod etc...I'm just a casual gamer.
@@MackemdownsouthF.T.M i use a 1050 for KSP and it does fine, i suspect something like that would be fine also for your casual - tbh gaming wise, LTT, gamers nexus, Jays2Cents et al. would be good places to look.
Thank you so much ✌️
How can I use Z600 with dual monitors ?
If your GPU supports it yes.
@@CrazyLogic Can you explain further? I don't understand.
Is there a difference in GPU when using HP Z600?
@@stevenlevittt the z600 doesn't have graphics built in so you'll need a GPU. the GPu will define if you can have dual monitors or not. I've been running mine with a 750ti in and it's been running dual mons at 1080 just fine for work and some play.
@@CrazyLogic Okay, got it.
Thanks for the clarification!
How is it for gaming
so for the two games i play it works fine - i have a gtx 750ti in it now, and it's great for kerbal space program at 1080p60.
Geez... It has 4 USB3.0 slots..! Two on the front and two on the back...
not on this model - USB 2.0 only.
@@CrazyLogic just realised that yours is a 600 and not the 620... Apologies...
Ssd raid work