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Let your fellow reactors know, beasts name is Adam. They never say it during the movie, but its in the credits. It took me over 12 yrs to find out (and i found out from a Disney trivia game).
39:42 - okay, so you guys just talked over arguably the best ad-lib joke in pretty much all of Disney...... Also, long conversation, but for the umpteenth time, THERE IS *NO* STOCKHOLM SYNDROME HERE.
Fun fact. In this film blue is meant to represent good and red is meant to represent evil. Most of the town remains in neutral browns and greens, Belle contrasts in her blue dress, but Gaston and the Beast both have blue eyes and red shirts at the beginning. It was meant to keep the audience guessing as to how the plot was going to end by showing that they both had bad exteriors and some good deep down. The difference is that Beast changes into a blue at the end, while Gaston keeps that red the whole way through. It's an obvious metaphor, but a very good one.
The blue also symbolizes belle's feeling of lonliness thats why shes the only one in blue from the town and and why when her and beast started bonding her wardrobe colors started getting warmer too
It's even better than that, actually. Look at most period dramas. Purple is the colour of royalty, which he wears in his cloak. Blue and black - hence Mr Darcy - are the colours of nobility. During Tale As Old As Time, he's not a Prince dating a girl. He's just a gentleman, wooing a lady - he's in blue, *not* purple. And Belle even meets him half way - society would have "OMGWTFAREYOUDOINGLEGASP!" reaction to her *drinking* from the soup bowl because you do *not* do that in polite society as it's considered "common" or "vulgar"; what she is doing is meeting him halfway, showing *she* is willing to adapt too.
Fun fact: it has actually been debunked as Stockholm Syndrome (I did a project about it in my Psych class and had to look up a lot of source articles) for a few reasons: - He never suggested she switch with her father - As you noticed, the doors were unlocked - And the most significant reason is she didn’t change; he did. When she did the bowl thing, he followed her lead and compromised. She noticed his character change from more rough and rude to more kind and open and then started to like him. And finally, he let her go, she came back, and she said, I love you. The beast changed before she ever actually loved him. He showed her a new beginning when he helped her survive the wolves and how they banter when they get back lacks a significant power imbalance. She yelled at him and vise versa; she wasn’t scared of him. She had the chance to leave him in the snow or take him to his castle, and she chose to help him despite the fact that before the wolves he was brash. In the end, he understood why she wouldn’t come back, but instead of getting angry, he understood, which is a big change the audience sees. Meanwhile he shows her he changed by letting her go. When the mob goes to attack him she realizes she has feelings for him and has enough proof for herself that he is different. And I’ve left out the library as a kind gift because that could be seen as a way he tried to get her to love him, so I count that as an act she saw from him as proof of his change. Anyways, it’s one of my favorite disney movies and has some great values, I just wanted to clear up that it isn’t Stockholm Syndrome. Thank you for the video and the time you took to create it.
And according to some psychologist this is actually one of the healthiest relationships according to Disney love stories. Bc he literally put her needs above his own. And THAT is what made her realize she loved him.
Thank you so much for this analysis! As a kid I was a shy bookworm who never felt I fit in and was bullied, so I obviously related to Belle. I have always gotten mad when people said it was Stockholm syndrome. I saw it as a beautiful love story. However I did not have the background to debunk the arguments. Still love this movie and still want that library.
Cinema Therapy does a deep dive that actually agrees with you a lot. They cover the library and argue that he's not done it to win her affection, but instead done it to almost repay her for her affection; he just wants to do something for her, which is exceptionally selfless from him at that point in the story. The movie does reflect the empathy that was present in the situation that spawned the term Stockholm Syndrome, but she doesn't really fall in love until she has the freedom to choose.
So Gaston says he eats 5 dozen eggs every morning. That's 60 eggs. Every morning. And I can't help thinking of that one woman during the song "Belle" saying she needs 6 eggs, and being told "that's too expensive." Conclusion: Gaston has caused an artificial inflation of the price of eggs in that town.
@@TimotheeReacts 37:55 Why does he assume that Belle’s the one who got him onto to the horse? They couldn’t have thought the horse decided to help himself? I’m sure he saw the Beast save Belle’s life.😅
There is a theory that the people in the castle got transformed due to how the Beast sees them. As “objects”. And then Beast transformed into what the people in the castle view him as. A “beast”.
Fun Fact: 1. The voice of Gaston, Richard White, is a classically trained singer. 2. Rupert Everett auditioned for the part of Gaston and was told that he did not sound arrogant enough. When he voiced Prince Charming in Shrek 2, he remembered this piece of advice. 3. Angela Landsbury (Mrs. Potts) didn’t want to record the title song originally. She thought someone else should sing it. They asked her to make one recording, just in case. This recording (done in one take) ended up being used in the film. 4. Not everything in the castle was a person at first. The spell simply enchanted everything, which brought some non-living things to life.
I've read that the reason Angela Lansbury initially felt "Beauty and the Beast" wasn't for her is that two different demos were made of the song: one in which it was fully sung, and another in which it was done "in character" as they expected Mrs. Potts to do it in the film. When they first presented the song to Lansbury, they accidentally sent her the wrong demo (the fully sung one). It was only after they discovered the error and sent her the other demo that she realized she could perform the song in the style that they wanted.
The Beast stuttering on the line "Do you want to stay in the tower?" was actually an error in the audio recording, but they decided to leave it in since it sounded perfectly natural to his emotions in that moment.
oh that's cool! it makes it both more comedic and endearing since you're not expecting this big and intimidating beast to be so uncertain of himself in this moment.
Belle is an incredible powerful princess but not in your typical way, she was groundbreaking for her time. A princess who actually had an interest beyond romantic life, who wasn't afraid to defend her beliefs and stood up for herself, and chose what she wanted despite everyone telling her what she should like. Belle was an icon
Yeah and I heard that it was actually quite a fight in the writing stages. Some in the creative room thought she would seem too brainy for a Disney princess. A first draft of the scene where Gaston comes to propose has her making a cake, not reading a book.
49:58 Personally, I don't think the scene where Beast is holding Gaston by his neck is meant to be a call back to Belle saying she will do anything to save her father. When Gaston stops begging you can hear the Encantreses theme in the background. So I think it's a call back to when Beast was cursed. He saw himself in Gaston and did what he wished The Encantres would have done. Give him a second chance.
Wow I never thought about it like that 🤯 that’s so crazy bc I’ve seen this movie too many times to count and heard that quick beginning scene reference
Nope..I think the music made him remember that he shouldnt act like a monster but have mercy for others...not hatred...because that was the reason why he was transformed into a beast to begin with, so he learned the lesson
I always understood the beginning as the enchantress cursed the beast when he was already 21, and the curse made it so that he couldn't age. So when it says that he would remain a beast forever, it literally meant FOREVER. He had ten years as a 21 year old to find someone to love him, but if not that was it. The curse becomes that much worse if he's not just living one lifetime, but just extending on..
I prefer that interpretation, since expecting a rich (orphaned?) 11-year-old not to be spoiled is not exactly realistic, and he looked a lot older on the stained glass window. He looks at least like a young adult
@@-i_own_you_- And I think Belle is in her early twenties. I mean, she could be younger - somewhere in her late teens - but somehow, she does not feel like 16-year-old Ariel does. Maybe she's just more mature, but I get a feeling of 20-22. That's just my guessing, tho
46:26 This whole song is a good example of Mob Mentality. The entire town had no idea that the beast existed, and the one time they discover he exists, they start rumors and fear what he can do, leading to Gaston taking advantage of the situation and begins leading the whole mob into one singular goal: Kill the beast.
And the mob is actually the real "villain" of the movie. Gaston is basically the way he is because SOCIETY made him that way, encouraged his terrible ways. The villagers, they know perfectly well that Gaston can't have any information about the Beast, after all he wanted to throw Maurice into an asylum for talking about it just moments ago. But they don't care, they WANT to listen to the lies Gaston is telling. Sadly the movie is still extremely topical today.
The writer of the music lyrics, Howard Ashman, was dying of aids during the production of the movie. While he never got explicitly political, his experience as a gay man during the aids crisis being surrounded by the fear Mongering of aids sufferers and gay men during the crisis probably inspired a bit of a lot of the mob song.
It's interesting to compare *Beauty and the Beast* 's "Mob Song" to the song "Savages" in Disney's *Pocahontas* (1995), which depicts two opposing sides dehumanizing each other as they prepare for battle.
weird to think that he was transformed at like 11 years old and he stopped having human relationships and social skills development at that age, and it is confirmed that he was being transformed psicologically as well, so his agressive posture at the beginning makes a lot of sense
@@rosita.handle yeah that would make sense, but what about the "in his twenty first birthday" thing? cuz in the beginning of the movie they said the flower will fade away in the 21st year but after that they say that they've been stuck in that form for 10 years, not 21, so that was talking about his age
@@rosita.handle true and it's even a plot hole cuz the painting of him in the wall is him as an adult 😭 it's still one of the best movies ever so it doesn't matter
A thing that's not outright confirmed in the movie but is by the producer is that Beast's curse isn't just physical but also psychological, as he is also slowly mentally losing his human side, and the producer stated that if he never met Belle he would've eventually stopped wearing clothes, lose the ability to speak and walk on two legs, and left the castle to roam the forest and try to survive as a feral animal. Also, while the Beast never had an actual name back when the movie was made, Disney has later referred to him as Prince Adam (kinda ironic that the guy named after the first human became a beast.) I'd like to see you react to the live-action remake of The Jungle Book. Yeah, the remakes are not considered as good as the originals and often not very good, but personally I like The Jungle Book remake much more than the original movie (because of the more serious tone fitting the dangerous environment jungle can be and how it's more faithful to the original book.) The Beauty and the Beast remake also would be kinda fun to see your reaction to later at some point, because it has some changes and expands on some things. 🙂
@@E_btsot798 What I did know beforehand is that both the Prince and the servants were cursed by how they viewed each other. The Prince viewed his servants as nothing but tools, and the servants view the prince as a Beast.
Beauty and the Beast is really a contender for best Disney animated movie of all time ! Everything works so well, Belle is an interresting character, Beast animation and voice is mesmerizing, Gaston is so slimy when you think about it, a great ego vilain...the songs are catchy ( tale as old as time but by Céline Dion is pretty amazing) and that castle...It's like something from the Haunting and the lighting in it gets better and better as the movie goes, like it's another character evolving with beast...Amazing !
Friendly reminder that this version is Howard Ashmans swan song. Much of the beasts struggles came directly from Ashmans own struggles with AIDS. If you listen really close to Kill the Beast, you can actually hear how it plays into this narrative.
CinemaTherapy channel does a really good job about explaining why this movie isn't actually Stockholm Syndrome- like many describe it as. And the Beast and Belle do a wonderful push and pull dance that allows their relationship to develop that I feel the live action one lacked
The scene where she's tending his wound after Beast saves her from the wolves really shows that she's willing to stand up to him and tell him when he's wrong. At that point, nobody else seems willing to.
Does everyone miss the part where the bookshop owner GIVES the book to her?!?! When she says how much she loves the book the shopkeeper goes "If you like it all that much, it's yours."
37:55 Why does he assume that Belle’s the one who got him onto to the horse? They couldn’t have thought the horse decided to help himself? I’m sure he saw the Beast save Belle’s life.
To be more precise, he didnt actually kidnap her. He didn't even suggest she stay. She volunteered to stay in her father's place. But when the beast yelled "get out" - I don't think he meant get out of the castle. I think it was more of a get out of this room. Also, I never understood how is the enchantress considered a good person??? I mean, spoiled of not, he was a child. Plus, if a stranger came to your house and just asked to stay the night, would you actually agree? To be cursed for not letting the stranger in... worse, to have all the servants etc. cursed as well... that's messed up.
I mean if I stranger came to my tiny house where Im alone I probably wouldnt even open the door. But a rich ass prince with a huge castle, tons of servants, guards etc. yeah giving an old lady a place to stay the night really isnt that wild. especially since those people would be under his charge and rule.
@@BambiLena666 That rich ass prince is a minor and probably an orphan. And yes, while he probably has room to let someone in, it is his decision if he wants to. If he didn't, well... it sucks for the person asking, but the prince has a right not to let anyone into his home. It's his home. To exact revenge because you were not received the way you wanted to.... like I said, it's messed up. But I take my words back (a bit), the words where I said that the servants were totally innocent and didn't deserve what they got. If the prince was really a minor and had no parents, which meant that those servants raised him - so they do bear a responsibility on how selfish he became.
@@Lina-lq7jm I mean sure, however the opening narration tells us he was "spoiled, selfish and unkind" and when the old lady asks for shelter from the cold (the castle is in the woods she wouldve froze to death probably) he refuses her because he thinks shes too ugly and sneers at her and her rose while sending her away. So sure he could chose anyway if he wants to let her in, but why you gotta be a dick about it? The narration kinda frames it like hes been a prick for a while and the enchantress decided to give him a final test to prove hes not that bad. On a semi separate note, its France i think theres a few monarchs that wouldve loved a chance to be cursed compared what the people did to them lmao. I agree on the servants thing, tho I dont think it was ever mentioned when his parents died, he is somewhat of an adult when she curses him (we see hes not a child in his portrait that he rips up). tho I think Disney changed them into being servants so they could give them more personality and a bigger role making the movie more dynamic. In the original story there are enchanted things in the castle but they are just things.
People are assuming he aged during this time. But what if he didn't age? What if everyone is stuck at the same age? It then makes sense why she curses him. He acts like an ass as an adult, so if he acts like a beast he gets turned into one. The conditions of the curse lifting wouldn't be met if he's not emotionally developed enough to pursue them. That's in line with the fairytale this is based on.
The creators said that Beast Prince is slowly losing his mind due to the curse. 🙁 Had he not broken the spell in time, he really WOULD'VE become a beast. 🙁 Fun fact: Gaston was initially supposed to survive the fall and get eaten by said wolves in a deleted scene. It was deemed too dark, though it was eventually recycled for The Lion King (1994) with hyenas instead of wolves.
"fun" fact: there's a deleted scene that shows Gaston's death. Somehow, Gaston survives the fall but he broke his leg and an arm, but he dies cause he's eaten by wolves, it's obvious why they didn't put it there. Instead, they just show his fall and put two little skulls on his eyes for a second, you still can see it in the scene there 50:32
Probably would've been too long, being presumably right after the Beast got stabbed by Gaston. We'd be wanting to get back to the couple right away, and it'd likely interrupt the flow of the scene to have Gaston's death take so long. So that's maybe another reason besides avoiding the censors.
I always thought that when Belle asked why she shouldn't go in the west wing, all the beast had to say was that that's where his quarters were. She doesn't want anything to do with him, so naturally she would have left that area alone. Instead he had to go and make her all curious.
I have a theory: what if the curse also stops the residents from aging? I think so because the Beast transformed when he was already an adult (when Belle goes to the west wing, there is a portrait of the prince as an adult). Also, I think that it makes more sense. A child being bratty can always grow out of it, but an adult should know better.
They actually hint at that. There is snow at the castel but not in the village. In the live Action one it is a bit clearer. Belle‘ vfather us saying something like“ oh snow .. in the Summer“ So time kinda stoped or moves really slow. Don’t remember which one but I think they explain it in the book where they tell the story from the beast perspective.
@@patriciomejia1114 the live action movie solved many of those tiny plot holes the animated one had. Like, where is Belle's mom? Where is the Enchantress, did she just leave after casting the spell and that was it? Why is a prince (Beast) so uneducated, shouldn't he have read lots of books as part of his education? If he was smarter and discussed abt books with Belle, they'd have more in common and she'd find the friend she was looking for in her solo. Most importantly, how is it that such a huge castle with a royal family was never noticed before by villagers that lived so close to it? It's only been 10 years, why does no one talk about it? Even urban legends, no one says a thing about the prince or the castle. Also, why are the servants so understanding of the Beast? They were cursed bc of him, they should hate his guts! People like to hate on it, but the live action worked its way around these questions in a better way imo, plus it had some new songs that were really really good! (Days In The Sun and Evermore~). I still prefer the animated one though, as the acting in the live action and the delivery of some scenes/lines is kinda...... yeah.
My favorite Disney princess, out of the entire lineup. Belle isn't out there to find a prince, she's not out there looking for prestige or looking to marry a man solely for wealth. She has a love for knowledge like her father, and her prince ultimately finds her in the most unexpected way: by forming an unlikely friendship that sprouted into something more
@@breezy3392 Not one single one of them. Well, maybe Snow White, but she didn't necessarily want a prince, she just wanted love. Cinderella just wanted a fun night out, Aurora wanted the guy she happened to encounter in the woods (but above all she was sick and tired of not being allowed to meet anyone), Ariel wanted to go to the human world, Belle just wanted to leave her village, Jasmine wanted to travel the world, Pocahontas wanted to find her own way, Mulan wanted to protect her father and proof her worth to the world, Tiana wanted to open her restaurant, Rapunzel wanted to see the lanterns, Merida wanted everything BUT marrying a prince and Moana wanted to be a sailor.
"What's a Disney movie without parent murder?" Brave, Moana, Peter Pan, 101 Dalmations, Sleeping Beauty, Coco, Zootopia, Tangled (depending if you count Mother Gothel as a parent or not), Alice in Wonderland, Hercules (has 2 sets of parents that don't die), Lady and the Tramp, Aristocats, Mary Poppins... I had to REALLY wrack my brain for those but they exist 😀
Sad fact: Howard Ashman the man who gave Disney the basis for the Disney Renaissance was laying in a hospital bed dying from AIDS when someone visiting him said "Beauty & the Beast is gonna be a big hit. Who knew?" Howard replied "I did." And I'd like to repeat the dedication at the end "To our friend Howard who gave a mermaid her voice and a beast his soul, we will be forever grateful. Howard Ashman 1950-1991"
"I'm pretty sure just chopping the wood would be easier" I'm sorry have you ever chopped wood? It's a pain in the ass and also that machine chopped like 5 logs in two minutes
But the wood chopping machine is steam powered, which means that before you can use it to chop wood, you're going to have to manually chop wood to fuel and fire up the machine's furnace, at least the first time.
Yeah Belle could indeed leave whenever and does actually choose to leave in order to save her father (after the mirror shows her that he is dying). She also friend zoned the beast when she said that he was her friend. It wasn't until later when she saw him with Gaston but choosing not to be like him and fight , that she started to get ROMANTIC feelings. Before that the feelings were of PLATONIC LOVE. Also , she stands up for herself and won't just do what the beast asks just because , he has to genuinely care about others including her and make an effort to be better , altogether making their dynamic not the Hollywood stereotype Stockholm Syndrome. CinemaThereapy actually did a great video showing and explaining this.
I think the prince had 21 when the witch curse him. Like, 10 years passed but no one in the palace got older that's why the little kid didn't grow up though the years.
@@TheBlackLakeSiren it is kinda tricky, cuz yeah, but in the live action he was turned as an adult, and in this movie the portrait was one of him as an adult, but in a book of the beauty and the beast an unexpected twist, at least that would be the name in Spanish, he was turned as a kid, kf i remember correctly,by the enchantress which in this book was Belle's mom, and he this was a twist in the story but worth mentioning as proof of the many versions, I personally believe the adult one, cuz of the portrait in this movie, plus a tiny bit less sad, but yeah there are representation for both versions
Mrs Potts is a teapot, not tea itself. She probably has the boiling water and tea leaves poured into her regularly, so she's not giving Belle part of herself - she simply holds it. Sorry to burst the joke.
Here's the cool thing: if you look into the historical context of this story, it actually explains almost everything. Example: she's the quirky girl that doesn't fit in because she wasn't born there. She still remembers Paris. Which they sort of touched on in the remake.
An unfinished version of Beauty and the Beast was first introduced at the New York Film Festival before its eventual release to theaters. This version received great reviews at the time. It showed how well done the various components of the film were. The fine voice acting and soundtrack made it compelling to watch despite the unfinished visuals and other unfinished details.
45:20 😅You see, this is what happens when you continuously talk over a movie. You miss something important, like a specific line or action from a character for example.
Growing up, Beauty and the Beast was a Disney film that I liked but didn’t appreciate very much. However as an adult and animator, I’ve come to give this film a lot of respect and appreciation. The animation is beautiful, the characters are great (love the cast), and the songs and score are amazing! To this day, I consider Beauty and the Beast as one of my all time favorite Disney animated films! P.S: Merry Christmas to you, Timothee! 🎄💚🎁❄️🌟
The Beast was like 10 when the sorceress cursed him. I think he was responsible for not letting her in, "Lady I saw what the hell happened in Snow White, you ain't giving me no magic item. Good day!"
Great fun on the reaction. There a couple of things people seem to assume with this movie because its a fairytale I do want to clear up. First, he was not 10 when he was cursed. He was early 20s and the curse just slowed/stopped aging for him and everyone else. You can clearly see in the portrait that Belle finds he is an adult in it and that was painted before he was cursed. Second, the movie did not take place over two days. If you look the seasons change so several months have gone by. When Belle arrives its early fall and when it ends its just turning to the spring. I have a book about the production and the screenwriter explained she and the team wanted to convey time so the fairytale made more sense to modern audiences, the Beast (whose name is actually Adam btw) had time to work on his character flaws and Belle and Beast had time to fall in love. Last the whole stockholme meme is so annoying because if you look at the actual symptoms and conditions it occurs under none of it fall into the diagnosis of Stockholme Syndrome. The original Fairytale has little detail but the girl was truly a prisoner and there really was no detail to indicate they did anything but have dinner every night. They wanted this movie to show she was independent, intelligent and kind which helps the Beast change for the better which is not what happens in Stockholme where a prisoner is basically brainwashed to point they accept their imprisoner was right to imprison them and sometimes even defend them for that action. I have no idea why a meme that started on Tumblr started an idea that people accept without question.
How do you even know he was an adult in the portrait? We only saw his eyes and a little bit of his face. Not nearly enough to identify him as an adult.
@@GeekGirl-ub7ki I think the 11 years old source is come from the sequel Beauty and the Beast:The Enchanted Christmas.(This sequel showing Prince Adam in his younger form before he got cursed and transformed by Enchantress. However,the Disney sequel at that time is produce by different team in the company.it would not had the same plot and writer like original.
Correction not Stockholm Syndrome. Granted she does love him but she loves what he became due to Lima Syndrome. The condition the captor changes and becomes sympathetic to the victim. But despite her love she still left. Also because she left and didn't go back until he was in danger it may have not been romantic. She even calls him her friend. Romantic came once he transformed.
LOL you guys didn't comment on my fav line: When the Beast asks what he can do for Belle/give her, Cogsworth is like, "Chocolates, flowers, promises you don't intend to keep" XD
This is one of my favorite movies. Fun fact: The Beast is technically a chimera (a creature with the features of individual animals). He has the head and horns of a buffalo, the brow of a gorilla, the tusks of a wild boar, the body and arms of a bear & the hind legs and tail of a wolf.
He was not a child when he was cursed. Although not mentioned in the movie, the curse also prevented the Beast and the rest of the castle's inhabitants from dying. Not only was he cursed with a beast appearance, but he also cannot die. So he was an adult when he was cursed by the witch, and so he remained unaffected over time, until he meets Bella. If you look at the introduction again, the prince wears typical clothes from the medieval era. But the rest of the story takes place in the Baroque era, when the aristocracy wore toupees, and they were so extravagant. Another detail is that, in the original story, the rose did not lose its petals. It was only a symbol of the only beautiful thing left in the castle, and it represented the vital essence of the prince.
And wasn't part of the reason why the beast locked Belle's father up in the first place because he cut some roses from the Beast's garden for Belle? I think in the original story, when Maurice comes to the castle, the Beast actually talks to Maurice and offers him lodging for the night, food and anything he wants and the only thing he's not allowed to have is a rose, but since they look so pretty and Maurice wants something back for Belle, he disobeys, the Beast freaks out because they're all he has, and that's why he decides to punish Maurice. A bit more layered than the movie, I think.
I don’t know where you got your info from but the opening clearly says that the rose would bloom before his 21st year so he’s obviously younger than that. The residents say they’ve been stuck there for 10 years now. He was 11.
@@ajandrianjafymusic No, it really isn't (in the way most people mean). The dynamic required for Stockholm Syndrome isn't present in the movie. She is able to leave whenever she wants, she also never accepts the Beast's cruel behaviour. She doesn't come to love him until the end when she is free already AND the Beast has dropped all toxic behaviours. Edit: I also recommend Cinema Therapy's video on this movie for a full analysis of whether it is Stockholm Syndrome or not.
@@breezy3392 You’re forgetting that the Beast is a prince. He’s royalty and the master of the castle. Whether or not you like it or agree, he had every legal right to punish trespassing on his property. That’s just how it was.
When I was younger I went to Orlando and met Gaston and the person they hired for that was amazing he acted and sounded like this dude... I also met Belle and beast!
Something I only noticed as an adult was that this actually borrowed many elements from The Legend Of Sleepy Hollow. Both Ichabod Crane and Belle are introduced by them reading a book while walking through town, and people singing a song about them. The head of the asylum bears a striking resemblance to a character in Sleepy Hollow (and even have a similar voice). Even Gaston looks somewhat like Brom Bones.
I love this movie a lot, easily one of the best Disney films ever made! I actually would love to see a what if kind of sequel where Gaston survived the original film and encountered the Enchantress in the woods and she turns him into a beast, except for the sequel Gaston gradually starts to really enjoy the monstrous form he gets.
The bookstore owner actually gave her that book, so yes, it is hers to keep. XD Sad they missed Cogsworth saying 'promises they don't intend to keep' by talking at that part.
The curse stopped all of their aging. Otherwise the teacup kid would look older after turning back unless he was a baby when transformed. Paintings also were of the prince who looks exactly the same 10 years ago. Also removed the nearby town's memory of the castle. Otherwise nothing makes sense lol
Idk whether some people count this film but in Belle’s Enchanted Christmas there was a flashback to the curse being cast. The Prince was definitely a child(he looked like he was 12) and Chip was a toddler
@@JanXD91 Never seen it so honestly i don't know. But it still doesn't explain how the painting was of him looking like he's at least 20 in the original movie and in the beginning slides when explaining the curse also made it seem like he was an adult. But it's Disney so you never know with them
You’re right about the curse stopped all their ageing…except for Prince Adam. (Beast) because the servants/staff are furniture and the beast is a beast but he has organs and that bones etc that can make him ageing normal. Have you guys ever seen beauty and the Beast enchanted Christmas? They showed you a flashback about the curse. (If anyone hasn’t seen the movie I’m sorry that I kinda spoiled it for you guys 🥺) Best movie ever! Hands down! 😍❤️🌹
@@deathrhino9256 yeah I get what ur saying. I personally don’t care for most of the Disney straight to vhs/dvd sequels but Belle’s Enchanted Christmas fit pretty well in the Beauty and the Beast story in my opinion. For me, the best part was Tim Curry playing the villain
OMG Tim! You are on a roll with all these collabs with my favourite reactors! Really love the Movie Budz too and never thought I'd be lucky enough to see them here too! So excited to watch this.
5:53 i wrote about this movie for a class project & realized that this part, imo, could symbolize how literal sheep are interested in what Belle is reading, when the real sheep are the most of the townsfolk who alienate her
If you guys collabed again and watched my favorite movie, Tangled, that would be a dream come true. I really enjoyed this video! You guys work great together. You're all so laid back and funny. It was a treat to watch.
There's no way that the Beast was only 10 when he was cursed. The stained glass clearly shows that he's a young man; time seems to have stopped for the residents of the castle when the curse came because how else do you explain Chip? Chip sounds too young to have been 10 years old, did he grow? Was he a baby when the curse came down?
I have read the book out of the beast perspective so time actually did stop or moves slower if I remember correctly. Also they hint at it because there is snow where the castle is but not in the village. Although this is a bit clearer in the live action one. There Belle‘s father is mentioning that it is summer. The book gives some interesting insights about the curse and some more about the enchantress and the past life of the prince.
Fun fact: Rupert Everett auditioned for the role of Gaston but was turned down because he didn't sound arrogant enough. He kept that in mind when he tried for Prince Charming in Shrek 2 which he nailed.
(At 51:40) this was one of the best parts I like at the end of the movie. When he transforms back, the look on Belle and the servant's faces as the curse is lifted, the music playing in the background, the real smoke coming from underneath him (that not animated somehow that's actually real smoke), and of course when he did die after getting impaled I did get a little teary. 26 years and I still can't man up over that scene.
I'm pretty sure he wasn't actually a kid when he was cursed. I think they all just stopped aging with the curse, hence how Mrs. Potts has a small child that's clearly younger than the curse itself. Also the torn portrait that looks exactly like him when the curse lifts. I kinda wish they were more clear about that at the beginning because I think the idea of him being a kid when he was cursed really changed your perception of the movie.
It's honestly pretty crazy that Beauty and the Beast was considered to be nominated for Best Picture back the early 1990s, it made the animation industry look like a work of art and was given proper respect and attention it deserves. This movie deserves that Oscar win. But too bad the 2010s made the animation industry look like it's for kids and a genre instead of a respectable film medium, which a real shame and something that drives me mad as an artist myself. It's not just for kids, it's for everyone of all ages.
im dyslexic and it kills me to be 29 years old and struggle to read....I sometimes have to rely on pictures or even films...it's heart breaking to be so different that way and I wish I could just be normal.....This disney film is my second favourite all time...I adore the meaning behind this film....that beauty is found within....hope you liked the film as much as I did :)
6:03 when I was little, I remember being annoyed when the sheep ate the page from Belle's book. Then there was me as a 3 year old who takes the nearest book I could find and scribbles on the pages for no reason
...a few things about this commentary... 1) It's established in the first song that the book Belle leaves the town book store with is officially hers; the store owner gave it to her. 2) While it is true that this story is one with Stockholm Syndrome, it goes by the actual definition of the phrase and not the "Falling in love with their captor" definition that has been misinterpreted by basically everyone (See the Beauty and the Beast episode of "Cinema Therapy" on UA-cam to see what I'm talking about). 3) The Beast's name is Adam. It's not mentioned in the movie but that's his actual name.
50:11 I love that parrallel to the scene when Belle said she'd do anything to get her father free. And Menken even reused the music from the prologue for part when the Beast gave Gaston the compassion he wanted from the Enchantress.
Disney literally made magic happen once before and even with the Goddamn road map pointing the way they couldn't remake this masterpiece properly. I'm not kidding the live action film literally CUTS down the time Bell and Beast have to develop chemistry and shoe horns in a ton of sub plots no one needed to know about and add nothing to the story or just make more plot holes! This animated film is AMAZING and in no way demanded a live action adaptation with actors who can't sing (Except for Audra Macdonald the woman is an amazing singer). How Disney screwed up so much with the live adaptation is beyond me.
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How does Gaston have no clue how to kill after all his hunting? I mean, the Beast gave him multiple free shots and he failed each and every time. I know he's not the brightest but it was heavily implied he's at least a skilled hunter.
the collab I didn't know I wanted but the collab I certainly needed. two of my favorite channels together for the holiday season, reacting to one of my favorite Disney movies; what more could a girl ask for?! Merry Christmas guys! 🎄❤️
That scene in the woods where Bell's father and Phillipe are attacked by the wolves is the very first movie scene I remember being scared by. It's pretty heavy handed watching it now but it was VERY effective when I was like 4.
Not doing a deep dive on what it says about me, but I’ve always preferred him as the Beast. I’m single and working on myself these days, partially due to my history of choosing Gastons.
Well, choosing Gaston was definitely in her best interest. He was a strong, well-loved, respected, attractive leader who was apparently very well off financially due to how lavish his clothing is and his diet. Also, he chose to attempt to woo her (though not how she preferred him to) and marry and make an honest woman out of her.
I’m here cause I saw the movie budz on the thumbnail lol and Im glad I stayed cause this collaboration was great! And also Beaty and the beast is indeed one of my faves!
I just realized something Philippe is a Clydesdale, one of those Budweiser horses. How the hell was Belle able to mount that thing when that's nearly one of the biggest horses out there?
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45:32 have you noticed Frollo’s voice
Let your fellow reactors know, beasts name is Adam. They never say it during the movie, but its in the credits. It took me over 12 yrs to find out (and i found out from a Disney trivia game).
39:42 - okay, so you guys just talked over arguably the best ad-lib joke in pretty much all of Disney......
Also, long conversation, but for the umpteenth time, THERE IS *NO* STOCKHOLM SYNDROME HERE.
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Fun fact. In this film blue is meant to represent good and red is meant to represent evil. Most of the town remains in neutral browns and greens, Belle contrasts in her blue dress, but Gaston and the Beast both have blue eyes and red shirts at the beginning. It was meant to keep the audience guessing as to how the plot was going to end by showing that they both had bad exteriors and some good deep down. The difference is that Beast changes into a blue at the end, while Gaston keeps that red the whole way through. It's an obvious metaphor, but a very good one.
Another way to describe the movie is this: "It is a tale, a tale of a man and a monster!"
The beast even wears purple while he’s becoming a better person, signaling his transition.
The blue also symbolizes belle's feeling of lonliness thats why shes the only one in blue from the town and and why when her and beast started bonding her wardrobe colors started getting warmer too
It's even better than that, actually.
Look at most period dramas. Purple is the colour of royalty, which he wears in his cloak. Blue and black - hence Mr Darcy - are the colours of nobility.
During Tale As Old As Time, he's not a Prince dating a girl. He's just a gentleman, wooing a lady - he's in blue, *not* purple.
And Belle even meets him half way - society would have "OMGWTFAREYOUDOINGLEGASP!" reaction to her *drinking* from the soup bowl because you do *not* do that in polite society as it's considered "common" or "vulgar"; what she is doing is meeting him halfway, showing *she* is willing to adapt too.
Hey, *Just Your Average,* where did you find that out? That sounds very interesting.
Fun fact: it has actually been debunked as Stockholm Syndrome (I did a project about it in my Psych class and had to look up a lot of source articles) for a few reasons:
- He never suggested she switch with her father
- As you noticed, the doors were unlocked
- And the most significant reason is she didn’t change; he did. When she did the bowl thing, he followed her lead and compromised. She noticed his character change from more rough and rude to more kind and open and then started to like him. And finally, he let her go, she came back, and she said, I love you. The beast changed before she ever actually loved him. He showed her a new beginning when he helped her survive the wolves and how they banter when they get back lacks a significant power imbalance. She yelled at him and vise versa; she wasn’t scared of him. She had the chance to leave him in the snow or take him to his castle, and she chose to help him despite the fact that before the wolves he was brash.
In the end, he understood why she wouldn’t come back, but instead of getting angry, he understood, which is a big change the audience sees. Meanwhile he shows her he changed by letting her go. When the mob goes to attack him she realizes she has feelings for him and has enough proof for herself that he is different. And I’ve left out the library as a kind gift because that could be seen as a way he tried to get her to love him, so I count that as an act she saw from him as proof of his change.
Anyways, it’s one of my favorite disney movies and has some great values, I just wanted to clear up that it isn’t Stockholm Syndrome. Thank you for the video and the time you took to create it.
And according to some psychologist this is actually one of the healthiest relationships according to Disney love stories. Bc he literally put her needs above his own. And THAT is what made her realize she loved him.
THANK YOU!!! Also, the bestiality thing is debunked when she sees his portrait; that’s when she realizes he’s actually human.
Amazing Annika :D you explain it all so well!!!
Thank you so much for this analysis! As a kid I was a shy bookworm who never felt I fit in and was bullied, so I obviously related to Belle. I have always gotten mad when people said it was Stockholm syndrome. I saw it as a beautiful love story. However I did not have the background to debunk the arguments. Still love this movie and still want that library.
Cinema Therapy does a deep dive that actually agrees with you a lot. They cover the library and argue that he's not done it to win her affection, but instead done it to almost repay her for her affection; he just wants to do something for her, which is exceptionally selfless from him at that point in the story.
The movie does reflect the empathy that was present in the situation that spawned the term Stockholm Syndrome, but she doesn't really fall in love until she has the freedom to choose.
So Gaston says he eats 5 dozen eggs every morning. That's 60 eggs. Every morning. And I can't help thinking of that one woman during the song "Belle" saying she needs 6 eggs, and being told "that's too expensive."
Conclusion: Gaston has caused an artificial inflation of the price of eggs in that town.
Eggflation
Actually, the expensive comment was actually to a pottery merchant before Belle jumps off the wagon at the bookshop.
When I was Aladdin, I ate lard! Now that I've grown I eat BABARRRRRRR!
Or he's rich in some way
@@TimotheeReacts 37:55 Why does he assume that Belle’s the one who got him onto to the horse? They couldn’t have thought the horse decided to help himself? I’m sure he saw the Beast save Belle’s life.😅
There is a theory that the people in the castle got transformed due to how the Beast sees them. As “objects”. And then Beast transformed into what the people in the castle view him as. A “beast”.
Fun Fact:
1. The voice of Gaston, Richard White, is a classically trained singer.
2. Rupert Everett auditioned for the part of Gaston and was told that he did not sound arrogant enough. When he voiced Prince Charming in Shrek 2, he remembered this piece of advice.
3. Angela Landsbury (Mrs. Potts) didn’t want to record the title song originally. She thought someone else should sing it. They asked her to make one recording, just in case. This recording (done in one take) ended up being used in the film.
4. Not everything in the castle was a person at first. The spell simply enchanted everything, which brought some non-living things to life.
Richard White has also played the Phantom of the Opera and he was absolutely amazing. His performance in the end is just so emotional.
I've read that the reason Angela Lansbury initially felt "Beauty and the Beast" wasn't for her is that two different demos were made of the song: one in which it was fully sung, and another in which it was done "in character" as they expected Mrs. Potts to do it in the film. When they first presented the song to Lansbury, they accidentally sent her the wrong demo (the fully sung one). It was only after they discovered the error and sent her the other demo that she realized she could perform the song in the style that they wanted.
Seeing the way she has talked in interviews about this movie, you can see there's a certain affection there that's developed.
The same voice actor of the grey man in this plays Frollo in Hunchback of Notra Dame.
The Beast stuttering on the line "Do you want to stay in the tower?" was actually an error in the audio recording, but they decided to leave it in since it sounded perfectly natural to his emotions in that moment.
oh that's cool! it makes it both more comedic and endearing since you're not expecting this big and intimidating beast to be so uncertain of himself in this moment.
That's something I quote all the time with my friend. "You wanna-wanna stay in the tower?" XDDD
Such a perfectly delivered line, even if he didnt deliver it the way they wanted
Belle is an incredible powerful princess but not in your typical way, she was groundbreaking for her time. A princess who actually had an interest beyond romantic life, who wasn't afraid to defend her beliefs and stood up for herself, and chose what she wanted despite everyone telling her what she should like. Belle was an icon
Yeah and I heard that it was actually quite a fight in the writing stages. Some in the creative room thought she would seem too brainy for a Disney princess. A first draft of the scene where Gaston comes to propose has her making a cake, not reading a book.
She IS an icon.
She’s technically not a princess though.
@@ryansmecker9943 she married a prince, so that makes her a princess by Disney laws. Mulan, however, is actually not a princess
49:58 Personally, I don't think the scene where Beast is holding Gaston by his neck is meant to be a call back to Belle saying she will do anything to save her father. When Gaston stops begging you can hear the Encantreses theme in the background. So I think it's a call back to when Beast was cursed. He saw himself in Gaston and did what he wished The Encantres would have done. Give him a second chance.
Deciding he is a man, not a monster
also showing he changed and doesnt just let his temper get the better of him anymore.
Wow I never thought about it like that 🤯 that’s so crazy bc I’ve seen this movie too many times to count and heard that quick beginning scene reference
It's certainly a defining moment. He makes the choice to be the person that Belle taught him to be.
Nope..I think the music made him remember that he shouldnt act like a monster but have mercy for others...not hatred...because that was the reason why he was transformed into a beast to begin with, so he learned the lesson
I always understood the beginning as the enchantress cursed the beast when he was already 21, and the curse made it so that he couldn't age. So when it says that he would remain a beast forever, it literally meant FOREVER. He had ten years as a 21 year old to find someone to love him, but if not that was it. The curse becomes that much worse if he's not just living one lifetime, but just extending on..
I do prefer that to her cursing a 5th grader
I prefer that interpretation, since expecting a rich (orphaned?) 11-year-old not to be spoiled is not exactly realistic, and he looked a lot older on the stained glass window. He looks at least like a young adult
So he's actually 31 in the movie
@@-i_own_you_- And I think Belle is in her early twenties. I mean, she could be younger - somewhere in her late teens - but somehow, she does not feel like 16-year-old Ariel does. Maybe she's just more mature, but I get a feeling of 20-22. That's just my guessing, tho
@@blueteller belle is actually a 17 year old
46:26
This whole song is a good example of Mob Mentality. The entire town had no idea that the beast existed, and the one time they discover he exists, they start rumors and fear what he can do, leading to Gaston taking advantage of the situation and begins leading the whole mob into one singular goal: Kill the beast.
And the mob is actually the real "villain" of the movie. Gaston is basically the way he is because SOCIETY made him that way, encouraged his terrible ways. The villagers, they know perfectly well that Gaston can't have any information about the Beast, after all he wanted to throw Maurice into an asylum for talking about it just moments ago. But they don't care, they WANT to listen to the lies Gaston is telling.
Sadly the movie is still extremely topical today.
The writer of the music lyrics, Howard Ashman, was dying of aids during the production of the movie. While he never got explicitly political, his experience as a gay man during the aids crisis being surrounded by the fear Mongering of aids sufferers and gay men during the crisis probably inspired a bit of a lot of the mob song.
It's interesting to compare *Beauty and the Beast* 's "Mob Song" to the song "Savages" in Disney's *Pocahontas* (1995), which depicts two opposing sides dehumanizing each other as they prepare for battle.
weird to think that he was transformed at like 11 years old and he stopped having human relationships and social skills development at that age, and it is confirmed that he was being transformed psicologically as well, so his agressive posture at the beginning makes a lot of sense
I always assumed that they didn't age whilst under the curse and that's how chip is a child still but thats just my opinion
@@rosita.handle yeah that would make sense, but what about the "in his twenty first birthday" thing? cuz in the beginning of the movie they said the flower will fade away in the 21st year but after that they say that they've been stuck in that form for 10 years, not 21, so that was talking about his age
@@lennyanyn I know haha I try not to overthink on Disney films lol
@@rosita.handle true and it's even a plot hole cuz the painting of him in the wall is him as an adult 😭 it's still one of the best movies ever so it doesn't matter
@@lennyanyn it's my second favourite but yes agreed it's best to not think about it haha and just go with the flow 😄
A thing that's not outright confirmed in the movie but is by the producer is that Beast's curse isn't just physical but also psychological, as he is also slowly mentally losing his human side, and the producer stated that if he never met Belle he would've eventually stopped wearing clothes, lose the ability to speak and walk on two legs, and left the castle to roam the forest and try to survive as a feral animal.
Also, while the Beast never had an actual name back when the movie was made, Disney has later referred to him as Prince Adam (kinda ironic that the guy named after the first human became a beast.)
I'd like to see you react to the live-action remake of The Jungle Book. Yeah, the remakes are not considered as good as the originals and often not very good, but personally I like The Jungle Book remake much more than the original movie (because of the more serious tone fitting the dangerous environment jungle can be and how it's more faithful to the original book.) The Beauty and the Beast remake also would be kinda fun to see your reaction to later at some point, because it has some changes and expands on some things. 🙂
That’s actually interesting because the Beast actually acts so much more bestial early in the movie, even walking on all fours in many early scenes.
isn't it also obvious too that the staff would also become inadiment objects slowly loosing who they were over time....
@@E_btsot798
What I did know beforehand is that both the Prince and the servants were cursed by how they viewed each other. The Prince viewed his servants as nothing but tools, and the servants view the prince as a Beast.
Adam means man. So that makes sense as the human name of the beast
The remake is so unfunny!
Beauty and the Beast is really a contender for best Disney animated movie of all time ! Everything works so well, Belle is an interresting character, Beast animation and voice is mesmerizing, Gaston is so slimy when you think about it, a great ego vilain...the songs are catchy ( tale as old as time but by Céline Dion is pretty amazing) and that castle...It's like something from the Haunting and the lighting in it gets better and better as the movie goes, like it's another character evolving with beast...Amazing !
Friendly reminder that this version is Howard Ashmans swan song.
Much of the beasts struggles came directly from Ashmans own struggles with AIDS.
If you listen really close to Kill the Beast, you can actually hear how it plays into this narrative.
Aladdin, too.
*What do you think of this editing format?! When i'm with multiple people, having us all to the side!*
50:31 it’s awesome.
It works absolutely fine! 😁👍🏻
I enjoyed it very much! ❤️
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CinemaTherapy channel does a really good job about explaining why this movie isn't actually Stockholm Syndrome- like many describe it as. And the Beast and Belle do a wonderful push and pull dance that allows their relationship to develop that I feel the live action one lacked
The scene where she's tending his wound after Beast saves her from the wolves really shows that she's willing to stand up to him and tell him when he's wrong. At that point, nobody else seems willing to.
Of course you three would make an amazing collab team!!! Love the Movie Budz so much, it's great to see you all together 🥰
Hope you enjoy the video! Was harder to edit with 3 people but think in the end it looked great
@@TimotheeReacts I actually love the way you did the editing with this!
It gives me a chuckle every time when Gaston mentions the dogs and the children, says they'll have 6 or 7, and Belle asks hopefully, "dogs?"
Does everyone miss the part where the bookshop owner GIVES the book to her?!?! When she says how much she loves the book the shopkeeper goes "If you like it all that much, it's yours."
37:55 Why does he assume that Belle’s the one who got him onto to the horse? They couldn’t have thought the horse decided to help himself? I’m sure he saw the Beast save Belle’s life.
To be more precise, he didnt actually kidnap her. He didn't even suggest she stay. She volunteered to stay in her father's place.
But when the beast yelled "get out" - I don't think he meant get out of the castle. I think it was more of a get out of this room.
Also, I never understood how is the enchantress considered a good person??? I mean, spoiled of not, he was a child. Plus, if a stranger came to your house and just asked to stay the night, would you actually agree? To be cursed for not letting the stranger in... worse, to have all the servants etc. cursed as well... that's messed up.
I mean if I stranger came to my tiny house where Im alone I probably wouldnt even open the door. But a rich ass prince with a huge castle, tons of servants, guards etc. yeah giving an old lady a place to stay the night really isnt that wild. especially since those people would be under his charge and rule.
Good point
@@BambiLena666 That rich ass prince is a minor and probably an orphan. And yes, while he probably has room to let someone in, it is his decision if he wants to. If he didn't, well... it sucks for the person asking, but the prince has a right not to let anyone into his home. It's his home. To exact revenge because you were not received the way you wanted to.... like I said, it's messed up.
But I take my words back (a bit), the words where I said that the servants were totally innocent and didn't deserve what they got. If the prince was really a minor and had no parents, which meant that those servants raised him - so they do bear a responsibility on how selfish he became.
@@Lina-lq7jm I mean sure, however the opening narration tells us he was "spoiled, selfish and unkind" and when the old lady asks for shelter from the cold (the castle is in the woods she wouldve froze to death probably) he refuses her because he thinks shes too ugly and sneers at her and her rose while sending her away. So sure he could chose anyway if he wants to let her in, but why you gotta be a dick about it?
The narration kinda frames it like hes been a prick for a while and the enchantress decided to give him a final test to prove hes not that bad.
On a semi separate note, its France i think theres a few monarchs that wouldve loved a chance to be cursed compared what the people did to them lmao.
I agree on the servants thing, tho I dont think it was ever mentioned when his parents died, he is somewhat of an adult when she curses him (we see hes not a child in his portrait that he rips up). tho I think Disney changed them into being servants so they could give them more personality and a bigger role making the movie more dynamic. In the original story there are enchanted things in the castle but they are just things.
People are assuming he aged during this time. But what if he didn't age? What if everyone is stuck at the same age? It then makes sense why she curses him. He acts like an ass as an adult, so if he acts like a beast he gets turned into one.
The conditions of the curse lifting wouldn't be met if he's not emotionally developed enough to pursue them. That's in line with the fairytale this is based on.
Fun fact: This was the first animated film to be nominated in Best Picture, and afterwards the Oscars created the Best Animated Film Category
The creators said that Beast Prince is slowly losing his mind due to the curse. 🙁 Had he not broken the spell in time, he really WOULD'VE become a beast. 🙁
Fun fact: Gaston was initially supposed to survive the fall and get eaten by said wolves in a deleted scene. It was deemed too dark, though it was eventually recycled for The Lion King (1994) with hyenas instead of wolves.
"fun" fact: there's a deleted scene that shows Gaston's death. Somehow, Gaston survives the fall but he broke his leg and an arm, but he dies cause he's eaten by wolves, it's obvious why they didn't put it there. Instead, they just show his fall and put two little skulls on his eyes for a second, you still can see it in the scene there 50:32
And yet Disney still decided to use that kind of death for Scar in the lion king 😅
@@firemiracle yep!
Would've been fitting too considering Gaston was a hunter for sport. Sweet revenge for the animals lol
Probably would've been too long, being presumably right after the Beast got stabbed by Gaston. We'd be wanting to get back to the couple right away, and it'd likely interrupt the flow of the scene to have Gaston's death take so long. So that's maybe another reason besides avoiding the censors.
@@nkbujvytcygvujno6006But it would've been really fitting
I always thought that when Belle asked why she shouldn't go in the west wing, all the beast had to say was that that's where his quarters were. She doesn't want anything to do with him, so naturally she would have left that area alone. Instead he had to go and make her all curious.
I have a theory: what if the curse also stops the residents from aging? I think so because the Beast transformed when he was already an adult (when Belle goes to the west wing, there is a portrait of the prince as an adult). Also, I think that it makes more sense. A child being bratty can always grow out of it, but an adult should know better.
They actually hint at that. There is snow at the castel but not in the village. In the live Action one it is a bit clearer. Belle‘ vfather us saying something like“ oh snow .. in the Summer“
So time kinda stoped or moves really slow. Don’t remember which one but I think they explain it in the book where they tell the story from the beast perspective.
@@redhead0122 Well, I wouldn't know. I didn't watch the live-action movie, but that does sound pretty interesting.
@@patriciomejia1114 the live action movie solved many of those tiny plot holes the animated one had. Like, where is Belle's mom? Where is the Enchantress, did she just leave after casting the spell and that was it? Why is a prince (Beast) so uneducated, shouldn't he have read lots of books as part of his education? If he was smarter and discussed abt books with Belle, they'd have more in common and she'd find the friend she was looking for in her solo. Most importantly, how is it that such a huge castle with a royal family was never noticed before by villagers that lived so close to it? It's only been 10 years, why does no one talk about it? Even urban legends, no one says a thing about the prince or the castle. Also, why are the servants so understanding of the Beast? They were cursed bc of him, they should hate his guts!
People like to hate on it, but the live action worked its way around these questions in a better way imo, plus it had some new songs that were really really good! (Days In The Sun and Evermore~). I still prefer the animated one though, as the acting in the live action and the delivery of some scenes/lines is kinda...... yeah.
@@heyitsmira17 Honestly, even now, I don't have much of an inclination to watch the new movie, but if you say that you enjoyed it, more power to you.
@@heyitsmira17 That was honestly the only good thing about the remake
My favorite Disney princess, out of the entire lineup. Belle isn't out there to find a prince, she's not out there looking for prestige or looking to marry a man solely for wealth. She has a love for knowledge like her father, and her prince ultimately finds her in the most unexpected way: by forming an unlikely friendship that sprouted into something more
Which Disney princesses were out to find a prince?
Ariel outsung outsold outdid outperformed
@@celeste_xo True
@@breezy3392 I don't think any were tbh, they just stumbled across them lol
@@breezy3392 Not one single one of them. Well, maybe Snow White, but she didn't necessarily want a prince, she just wanted love. Cinderella just wanted a fun night out, Aurora wanted the guy she happened to encounter in the woods (but above all she was sick and tired of not being allowed to meet anyone), Ariel wanted to go to the human world, Belle just wanted to leave her village, Jasmine wanted to travel the world, Pocahontas wanted to find her own way, Mulan wanted to protect her father and proof her worth to the world, Tiana wanted to open her restaurant, Rapunzel wanted to see the lanterns, Merida wanted everything BUT marrying a prince and Moana wanted to be a sailor.
"What's a Disney movie without parent murder?"
Brave, Moana, Peter Pan, 101 Dalmations, Sleeping Beauty, Coco, Zootopia, Tangled (depending if you count Mother Gothel as a parent or not), Alice in Wonderland, Hercules (has 2 sets of parents that don't die), Lady and the Tramp, Aristocats, Mary Poppins...
I had to REALLY wrack my brain for those but they exist 😀
Oh thank goodness I thought you were naming movies where people did die I was confused for a second
Fun fact: Angela Lansbury (the voice of Mrs. Potts) recorded the title song in one take.
Sad fact: Howard Ashman the man who gave Disney the basis for the Disney Renaissance was laying in a hospital bed dying from AIDS when someone visiting him said "Beauty & the Beast is gonna be a big hit. Who knew?" Howard replied "I did." And I'd like to repeat the dedication at the end "To our friend Howard who gave a mermaid her voice and a beast his soul, we will be forever grateful. Howard Ashman 1950-1991"
And now Disney has run out of ideas for animated films
@@tc-tm1my Wrong, Disney executives have run out of ideas and have actively undermined any creative and new blood
It can't be real!!!! Best collab ever!!
I know!! So stoked!
Kinda love how strong Belle is to prevent Beast from falling.
"I'm pretty sure just chopping the wood would be easier"
I'm sorry have you ever chopped wood? It's a pain in the ass and also that machine chopped like 5 logs in two minutes
Right? Splitting wood can take the whole day depending on how much you need. A machine like that saves your hands, arms, shoulders, back, all of that.
But the wood chopping machine is steam powered, which means that before you can use it to chop wood, you're going to have to manually chop wood to fuel and fire up the machine's furnace, at least the first time.
Yeah Belle could indeed leave whenever and does actually choose to leave in order to save her father (after the mirror shows her that he is dying). She also friend zoned the beast when she said that he was her friend. It wasn't until later when she saw him with Gaston but choosing not to be like him and fight , that she started to get ROMANTIC feelings. Before that the feelings were of PLATONIC LOVE. Also , she stands up for herself and won't just do what the beast asks just because , he has to genuinely care about others including her and make an effort to be better , altogether making their dynamic not the Hollywood stereotype Stockholm Syndrome. CinemaThereapy actually did a great video showing and explaining this.
I think the prince had 21 when the witch curse him. Like, 10 years passed but no one in the palace got older that's why the little kid didn't grow up though the years.
The sequel shows that he was turned as a kid.
@@TheBlackLakeSiren it is kinda tricky, cuz yeah, but in the live action he was turned as an adult, and in this movie the portrait was one of him as an adult, but in a book of the beauty and the beast an unexpected twist, at least that would be the name in Spanish, he was turned as a kid, kf i remember correctly,by the enchantress which in this book was Belle's mom, and he this was a twist in the story but worth mentioning as proof of the many versions, I personally believe the adult one, cuz of the portrait in this movie, plus a tiny bit less sad, but yeah there are representation for both versions
Mrs Potts is a teapot, not tea itself. She probably has the boiling water and tea leaves poured into her regularly, so she's not giving Belle part of herself - she simply holds it. Sorry to burst the joke.
If anything I think this explanation can create some new jokes :)
@@richardlevy1459 Very true.
“Transforms into Gaston” I’m dead 🤣😂😂😂
Here's the cool thing: if you look into the historical context of this story, it actually explains almost everything.
Example: she's the quirky girl that doesn't fit in because she wasn't born there. She still remembers Paris. Which they sort of touched on in the remake.
An unfinished version of Beauty and the Beast was first introduced at the New York Film Festival before its eventual release to theaters. This version received great reviews at the time. It showed how well done the various components of the film were. The fine voice acting and soundtrack made it compelling to watch despite the unfinished visuals and other unfinished details.
45:20 😅You see, this is what happens when you continuously talk over a movie. You miss something important, like a specific line or action from a character for example.
Growing up, Beauty and the Beast was a Disney film that I liked but didn’t appreciate very much. However as an adult and animator, I’ve come to give this film a lot of respect and appreciation. The animation is beautiful, the characters are great (love the cast), and the songs and score are amazing! To this day, I consider Beauty and the Beast as one of my all time favorite Disney animated films!
P.S: Merry Christmas to you, Timothee! 🎄💚🎁❄️🌟
Looking back, there was a good reason that it became the first animated film ever nominated for the Best Picture Oscar.
Wasn’t expecting a video on Christmas, much less a collab on this classic! Thank you for your work Tim, Merry Christmas everyone 🎄
The Beast was like 10 when the sorceress cursed him. I think he was responsible for not letting her in, "Lady I saw what the hell happened in Snow White, you ain't giving me no magic item. Good day!"
Great fun on the reaction. There a couple of things people seem to assume with this movie because its a fairytale I do want to clear up. First, he was not 10 when he was cursed. He was early 20s and the curse just slowed/stopped aging for him and everyone else. You can clearly see in the portrait that Belle finds he is an adult in it and that was painted before he was cursed. Second, the movie did not take place over two days. If you look the seasons change so several months have gone by. When Belle arrives its early fall and when it ends its just turning to the spring. I have a book about the production and the screenwriter explained she and the team wanted to convey time so the fairytale made more sense to modern audiences, the Beast (whose name is actually Adam btw) had time to work on his character flaws and Belle and Beast had time to fall in love. Last the whole stockholme meme is so annoying because if you look at the actual symptoms and conditions it occurs under none of it fall into the diagnosis of Stockholme Syndrome. The original Fairytale has little detail but the girl was truly a prisoner and there really was no detail to indicate they did anything but have dinner every night. They wanted this movie to show she was independent, intelligent and kind which helps the Beast change for the better which is not what happens in Stockholme where a prisoner is basically brainwashed to point they accept their imprisoner was right to imprison them and sometimes even defend them for that action. I have no idea why a meme that started on Tumblr started an idea that people accept without question.
They don’t seem to understand that she always had a choice. She was always asked if she likes this or that.
How do you even know he was an adult in the portrait? We only saw his eyes and a little bit of his face. Not nearly enough to identify him as an adult.
The other animated films show us that he was turned at 11.
@@19Rena96 I n the book I have on the production they have a picture of the portrait as it would appear before being turned. He wasn’t a child in it.
@@GeekGirl-ub7ki I think the 11 years old source is come from the sequel Beauty and the Beast:The Enchanted Christmas.(This sequel showing Prince Adam in his younger form before he got cursed and transformed by Enchantress.
However,the Disney sequel at that time is produce by different team in the company.it would not had the same plot and writer like original.
It took me way too long to realize belle literally means beauty in French. So in France, the translation in to English would be Belle and the beast.
La belle et la bete in french
Correction not Stockholm Syndrome.
Granted she does love him but she loves what he became due to Lima Syndrome. The condition the captor changes and becomes sympathetic to the victim. But despite her love she still left.
Also because she left and didn't go back until he was in danger it may have not been romantic. She even calls him her friend. Romantic came once he transformed.
So she's not a zoophile
LOL you guys didn't comment on my fav line: When the Beast asks what he can do for Belle/give her, Cogsworth is like, "Chocolates, flowers, promises you don't intend to keep" XD
im actually dyslexic and i found reading the harry potter books with added illustrations helped so much, i do recommend it for anyone struggling
What does that have to do with anything
@@Needsmoreflash The part when Gaston was like "How can you read this, it doesn't have any images?" at the beginning of the movie, I guess.
Fun fact in the original script Gaston falls and breaks his legs and the wolves eat him alive but they saved that for Scar's death in the Lion King
So basically the scene from frozen where the guys falls, breaks his leg, and is eaten alive by wolves
“Be Our Guest” is the best floor show in any Disney movie. 😎🍿
The best collab you have ever done! 🔥 I love these guys.
Merry Christmas to all ♥️🎄
This is one of my favorite movies. Fun fact: The Beast is technically a chimera (a creature with the features of individual animals). He has the head and horns of a buffalo, the brow of a gorilla, the tusks of a wild boar, the body and arms of a bear & the hind legs and tail of a wolf.
He was not a child when he was cursed. Although not mentioned in the movie, the curse also prevented the Beast and the rest of the castle's inhabitants from dying. Not only was he cursed with a beast appearance, but he also cannot die.
So he was an adult when he was cursed by the witch, and so he remained unaffected over time, until he meets Bella.
If you look at the introduction again, the prince wears typical clothes from the medieval era.
But the rest of the story takes place in the Baroque era, when the aristocracy wore toupees, and they were so extravagant.
Another detail is that, in the original story, the rose did not lose its petals. It was only a symbol of the only beautiful thing left in the castle, and it represented the vital essence of the prince.
And wasn't part of the reason why the beast locked Belle's father up in the first place because he cut some roses from the Beast's garden for Belle?
I think in the original story, when Maurice comes to the castle, the Beast actually talks to Maurice and offers him lodging for the night, food and anything he wants and the only thing he's not allowed to have is a rose, but since they look so pretty and Maurice wants something back for Belle, he disobeys, the Beast freaks out because they're all he has, and that's why he decides to punish Maurice. A bit more layered than the movie, I think.
They said TEN YEARS, we’ve been rusting!
I don’t know where you got your info from but the opening clearly says that the rose would bloom before his 21st year so he’s obviously younger than that. The residents say they’ve been stuck there for 10 years now. He was 11.
🤦🏽♀️ Beast didn’t kidnap her. She offered to take her father’s place in the prison and Beast agreed to the deal.
Ahhh, that's still imprisonment
Still Stockholm syndrome
@@ajandrianjafymusic No, it really isn't (in the way most people mean). The dynamic required for Stockholm Syndrome isn't present in the movie.
She is able to leave whenever she wants, she also never accepts the Beast's cruel behaviour. She doesn't come to love him until the end when she is free already AND the Beast has dropped all toxic behaviours.
Edit: I also recommend Cinema Therapy's video on this movie for a full analysis of whether it is Stockholm Syndrome or not.
@@breezy3392
You’re forgetting that the Beast is a prince. He’s royalty and the master of the castle. Whether or not you like it or agree, he had every legal right to punish trespassing on his property. That’s just how it was.
@@grawxxor2820
Exactly!!! It’s definitely not Stockholm syndrome. Sooo tired of people lying and claiming that it is.
When I was younger I went to Orlando and met Gaston and the person they hired for that was amazing he acted and sounded like this dude... I also met Belle and beast!
*What other Disney animated film should we watch next?!?*
the little mermaid 😁 (blueprint of beauty and the beast)
Trolls 2016 please💕💕💕
The Lizzie McGuire movie.
Guys wouldnt it be funny if he watched a barbie movie😂😂
I get if he is not interested but still
tangled, brave, nightmare before christmas
God this makes me feel so old. I remember seeing this int he movies. Gosh.
The opening music and the opening number are really incredible
"So, you've come to stare at the BEAST, have you?"
This is my #1 Disney film that'll never be de-ranked, love it! lol
Something I only noticed as an adult was that this actually borrowed many elements from The Legend Of Sleepy Hollow. Both Ichabod Crane and Belle are introduced by them reading a book while walking through town, and people singing a song about them. The head of the asylum bears a striking resemblance to a character in Sleepy Hollow (and even have a similar voice). Even Gaston looks somewhat like Brom Bones.
I love this movie a lot, easily one of the best Disney films ever made!
I actually would love to see a what if kind of sequel where Gaston survived the original film and encountered the Enchantress in the woods and she turns him into a beast, except for the sequel Gaston gradually starts to really enjoy the monstrous form he gets.
The bookstore owner actually gave her that book, so yes, it is hers to keep. XD
Sad they missed Cogsworth saying 'promises they don't intend to keep' by talking at that part.
Gaston said there were no pictures in the book when there was a whole picture there when she was sitting at the fountain with the sheep.
I'm sorry, but during the last scenes, Gaston's hair is majestic.
Edit: I-I'm sorry did I just GET A FRICKIN HEART?
The curse stopped all of their aging. Otherwise the teacup kid would look older after turning back unless he was a baby when transformed. Paintings also were of the prince who looks exactly the same 10 years ago. Also removed the nearby town's memory of the castle. Otherwise nothing makes sense lol
Idk whether some people count this film but in Belle’s Enchanted Christmas there was a flashback to the curse being cast. The Prince was definitely a child(he looked like he was 12) and Chip was a toddler
@@JanXD91 Never seen it so honestly i don't know. But it still doesn't explain how the painting was of him looking like he's at least 20 in the original movie and in the beginning slides when explaining the curse also made it seem like he was an adult. But it's Disney so you never know with them
You’re right about the curse stopped all their ageing…except for Prince Adam. (Beast) because the servants/staff are furniture and the beast is a beast but he has organs and that bones etc that can make him ageing normal. Have you guys ever seen beauty and the Beast enchanted Christmas? They showed you a flashback about the curse. (If anyone hasn’t seen the movie I’m sorry that I kinda spoiled it for you guys 🥺) Best movie ever! Hands down! 😍❤️🌹
@@mazzthejazz5129 I guess i need to watch that movie then lol
@@deathrhino9256 yeah I get what ur saying. I personally don’t care for most of the Disney straight to vhs/dvd sequels but Belle’s Enchanted Christmas fit pretty well in the Beauty and the Beast story in my opinion. For me, the best part was Tim Curry playing the villain
OMG Tim! You are on a roll with all these collabs with my favourite reactors! Really love the Movie Budz too and never thought I'd be lucky enough to see them here too! So excited to watch this.
5:53 i wrote about this movie for a class project & realized that this part, imo, could symbolize how literal sheep are interested in what Belle is reading, when the real sheep are the most of the townsfolk who alienate her
I can see all spectrum of emotions in Beast’s eyes 😢👁👁🦁
Buds, this is not a case of Stockholm syndrome. She was not held here against her will. She chose to stay.
If you guys collabed again and watched my favorite movie, Tangled, that would be a dream come true. I really enjoyed this video! You guys work great together. You're all so laid back and funny. It was a treat to watch.
There's no way that the Beast was only 10 when he was cursed. The stained glass clearly shows that he's a young man; time seems to have stopped for the residents of the castle when the curse came because how else do you explain Chip? Chip sounds too young to have been 10 years old, did he grow? Was he a baby when the curse came down?
I have read the book out of the beast perspective so time actually did stop or moves slower if I remember correctly. Also they hint at it because there is snow where the castle is but not in the village. Although this is a bit clearer in the live action one. There Belle‘s father is mentioning that it is summer. The book gives some interesting insights about the curse and some more about the enchantress and the past life of the prince.
he was just a tall eleven year old
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In the other animated films they show that he really was turned as a kid.
Only Animated movie at the time in 1991 to be nominated for the Oscar Best Picture! Fun Fact!
Fun fact: Rupert Everett auditioned for the role of Gaston but was turned down because he didn't sound arrogant enough. He kept that in mind when he tried for Prince Charming in Shrek 2 which he nailed.
This was a fun collab. Timothee you're pretty funny, can't wait to see more. Movie Budz brought me here. yay
(At 51:40) this was one of the best parts I like at the end of the movie. When he transforms back, the look on Belle and the servant's faces as the curse is lifted, the music playing in the background, the real smoke coming from underneath him (that not animated somehow that's actually real smoke), and of course when he did die after getting impaled I did get a little teary. 26 years and I still can't man up over that scene.
I'm pretty sure he wasn't actually a kid when he was cursed. I think they all just stopped aging with the curse, hence how Mrs. Potts has a small child that's clearly younger than the curse itself. Also the torn portrait that looks exactly like him when the curse lifts. I kinda wish they were more clear about that at the beginning because I think the idea of him being a kid when he was cursed really changed your perception of the movie.
The sequel animated film shows that he really was cursed when he was a kid.
No one disobeys orders like Gaston and no one falls to threre death Like Gaston
It's honestly pretty crazy that Beauty and the Beast was considered to be nominated for Best Picture back the early 1990s, it made the animation industry look like a work of art and was given proper respect and attention it deserves. This movie deserves that Oscar win. But too bad the 2010s made the animation industry look like it's for kids and a genre instead of a respectable film medium, which a real shame and something that drives me mad as an artist myself. It's not just for kids, it's for everyone of all ages.
Beauty and the Beast actually takes place over months of time!! There’s a sequel type thing for Christmas that proves this :)
when you realize the implications behind the guy was tearing apart the french duster/maid's feathers/skirt 0.0
im dyslexic and it kills me to be 29 years old and struggle to read....I sometimes have to rely on pictures or even films...it's heart breaking to be so different that way and I wish I could just be normal.....This disney film is my second favourite all time...I adore the meaning behind this film....that beauty is found within....hope you liked the film as much as I did :)
6:03 when I was little, I remember being annoyed when the sheep ate the page from Belle's book. Then there was me as a 3 year old who takes the nearest book I could find and scribbles on the pages for no reason
...a few things about this commentary...
1) It's established in the first song that the book Belle leaves the town book store with is officially hers; the store owner gave it to her.
2) While it is true that this story is one with Stockholm Syndrome, it goes by the actual definition of the phrase and not the "Falling in love with their captor" definition that has been misinterpreted by basically everyone (See the Beauty and the Beast episode of "Cinema Therapy" on UA-cam to see what I'm talking about).
3) The Beast's name is Adam. It's not mentioned in the movie but that's his actual name.
I always loved this one too since my early 90's childhood. Also that Belle was always such a bookworm😂
50:11 I love that parrallel to the scene when Belle said she'd do anything to get her father free. And Menken even reused the music from the prologue for part when the Beast gave Gaston the compassion he wanted from the Enchantress.
Best collab!!! Yesss I love all of you guys, this is gonna be fun
Disney literally made magic happen once before and even with the Goddamn road map pointing the way they couldn't remake this masterpiece properly. I'm not kidding the live action film literally CUTS down the time Bell and Beast have to develop chemistry and shoe horns in a ton of sub plots no one needed to know about and add nothing to the story or just make more plot holes! This animated film is AMAZING and in no way demanded a live action adaptation with actors who can't sing (Except for Audra Macdonald the woman is an amazing singer). How Disney screwed up so much with the live adaptation is beyond me.
YES!!! LET'S GO!!! My favorite two movie reactors together! Merry Christmas budz and Timothee! And alot of fans theorize that he's actually a Duke of some kind. 🎄⛄☕
How does Gaston have no clue how to kill after all his hunting? I mean, the Beast gave him multiple free shots and he failed each and every time. I know he's not the brightest but it was heavily implied he's at least a skilled hunter.
"oh god, am i a furry?" Hshshshshshshs love it
the collab I didn't know I wanted but the collab I certainly needed. two of my favorite channels together for the holiday season, reacting to one of my favorite Disney movies; what more could a girl ask for?! Merry Christmas guys! 🎄❤️
TimotheeReacts AND The Movie Budz collab?! Hell yeah! This is easily in my Top 3 favorite Disney animated movies ever! I love it to pieces
That scene in the woods where Bell's father and Phillipe are attacked by the wolves is the very first movie scene I remember being scared by. It's pretty heavy handed watching it now but it was VERY effective when I was like 4.
You could say at the end Lumiere was… CLOCK-BLOCKED
Omg the best crossover in the life, I love You guys so much
Not doing a deep dive on what it says about me, but I’ve always preferred him as the Beast. I’m single and working on myself these days, partially due to my history of choosing Gastons.
Well, choosing Gaston was definitely in her best interest. He was a strong, well-loved, respected, attractive leader who was apparently very well off financially due to how lavish his clothing is and his diet. Also, he chose to attempt to woo her (though not how she preferred him to) and marry and make an honest woman out of her.
Funny thing was the prince was merely a child when he met the old woman. What are the odds that he was taught not to let strangers in his home?
I’m here cause I saw the movie budz on the thumbnail lol and Im glad I stayed cause this collaboration was great!
And also Beaty and the beast is indeed one of my faves!
WOW a collab I would never expect but super happy to see!!! Recently got into both channels, love all 3 of you!
I just realized something Philippe is a Clydesdale, one of those Budweiser horses. How the hell was Belle able to mount that thing when that's nearly one of the biggest horses out there?
I love both channels and this my #1 favorite Disney movie!!! Best Christmas present 🎁!!!!😊💜💜💜 What a classic animated movie 🌹
If you watch Gaston’s fall slowly you’ll see in his pupils a skull as he’s falling to his death.