Here we find an additive synthesizer in it's native habitat, obscurity. What an extraordinary specimen..! Just listen to it shift from sparse, delicate harmonics to veritable wall of sound! Simply splendid.
Thank you so much for having me be a part of this amazing, super entertaining video! If anyone cares, here's my current rompler list in full: Korg NS5R, Korg 05RW, Yamaha MU50, Yamaha VL70m, Yamaha MU128, Yamaha FB-01, Yamaha SU10 (more a sampler but who cares), Roland SC55mkii and Sound Brush, Roland Sound Canvas SC-8850, Roland Sound Canvas SD-80 ZUNpet lol, Roland SC-880, Roland SonicCell, Roland D-05, Korg TR Rack, Korg Triton Rack, Korg 03R, Korg M1R (tons of ROM cards btw), Korg Wavestation SR, Roland Fantom XR, Roland Integra 7 (GOAT), Yamaha EX5R, Yamaha TG77, Roland Jupiter XM, Roland Fantom 8, and my latest, Yamaha Montage m8x Cheers to other Rompler fans out there!
The Roland D50 certainly wasn't 16 part multi tinbral. It also didn't sell hundreds of thousands of units. That honour goes to the Korg M1, the biggest selling synth of all time with 250000 units sold as you correctly mentioned.
It's thunderstorming, I'm huddled up in a blanket, and Jeremy's dropped a new video. Today is the day of good headphones, keeping warm, and learning new things!
I’ve been collecting Romplers for a few years. I love delving into their memory and pulling out these exquisite sounds with so much nostalgia. I recently bought an M1 & a Triton for very little. These synths are time machines. They transport you back, but allow you to rewrite history into new arrangements. Romplers are Golden
My first ever Synthesizer/Rompler was a Yamaha CS1x and - as anyone who has owned one of these will understand - I played on it like 2 times and then never picked it up again. After it spent about 7 years in various corners of various houses I randomly set it up because of the "I just got a bigger audio interface and need to plug EVERYTHING in!" thing. Select some type of pad preset, add a bit of lush reverb, maybe some granular - and this thing is the ultimate drone machine. Really sits well in a mix with its thin low end the cold digital highs. Nice contrast that leaves a lot of space for the "warmer" elements of the mix. I use it on every song nowadays. Also taught me that the quality of your music and the amount of fun you have whilst creating it is not at all determined by the "quality" of your gear.
I told a friend that ROMplers and their sound will become trendy once again in a few years, a bit like how analog has risen from the dust. Just wait and see, or get some of them while you still can!
Love the Bluey cameos 🩵 And of the course the rest of the video - more of this please! Inknow it was a shitload of work, but holy moly, it was worth it! Everything is on point 🫶
The Korg Triton was my dad synthesizer that he would use to lead worship with. It got me into music production and it is my all-time favorite tool to use . We lost ours in a fire and I ended up buying him a new one for Father’s Day last year. Haven’t seen him Get that quite emotional before lol This is a really really cool video. People always get on romps for being hacked synthesizers, but genuinely they’re the coolest
This is a very welcome video. Takes me back big time. I used to go to the music shop and drool over the d50. Ended up with the M1 and was busy with the Atari ST after school for years. I interviewed Jon Hopkins for the HOWA pod and was amazed to find he made so so much on the Triton!
At 17, I saved up & bought my first big-kid instrument, a pawn shop Triton. Ironically, I sold it to get my first computer capable of running a DAW. Many years passed before any nostalgia for it kicked in, but I miss it often now & vids like this don’t help. Maybe the VST would scratch the itch. Awesome tour & history lesson, cheers!
A big part of Romplers to me, particularly the Yamaha Motif series from the original onwards, is that the sounds are designed to sit nicely together from the get go. So you can sequence drums, bass, leads, pads, whatever you like and it all instantly works together very well.
@@sub-jec-tiv totally agree with you, there is something with that song that is so hauntingly beautiful, btw Oghre and Cevin key's solo work has the same quality, but you probably know that!?
Tho i think its sad their early works were used in guantanamo bay for torturing the prisoners, knowing they are very opposed to these things and often expressed in their lyrics!
Pads are a blessing. I absolutely adore them all. Romplers as well since back in the day. They made music history, no matter how hard many synth snobs hate to admit ;) I love my Roland Juno-Di with its D-50/JD-800 legacy of making sounds, absolutely incredible and flexible. Also, my Korg Kross 2, tonnes of cool options. All my old stuff like a Proteus/1 XR and all my cool Yamaha XG/AMW stuff: TG-55, RS-7000, RM1x, and the glorious QY series: 10, 100 and 700 - full of good, slurpy retro awesomeness ;)
great video! I have the Sound Canvas Roland SC-88 and a Roland XP-30 (keyboard of the JV1080 family) ANd both are in the top 10 best purchases i ever did.
What you've missed indeed were the Kurzweil K2500/2600 with their vamped up VAST and complex sound structure plus high quality samples. They can also do great pads, especially in setup mode (combi).
the past several months, the algorithm has blessed me with lots of videos on jungle and sample pad stuff, and thought forms really got me lusting over the triton, but i don't have that much money to spare so of course we have triton at home. triton at home being alchemy, and also a good pad sample really just needs a basic sampler. i've made like a dozen single note pad samples so far recently (and many more i haven't saved out of whatever project file i made them in), it's really fun to do weird sound design stuff and then chuck it in a sampler. weird spectral stuff sounds great pitched/slowed down a bunch.
Hell yeah. I own a JD-990, a Korg TR-Rack, and a 01/WFD. This my shit. Discovered them trying to recreate the nostalgic sounds of old Japanese anime and videogame bells, chimes and pads.
I was very happy to see the wavestate get a mention on this. I agree that at the start of learning it, that synthesizer can be intensely difficult to work with, but it's become my favorite synthesizer I own. Nothing else can get me anywhere close to the rich, droning pads I can get out of it that can become songs in their own right.
I have a new found appreciation for romplers.A few of them, mainly from Roland, were on my wishlist, but my list has grown exponentially. And I do agree about Kontakt, the Play Series is pretty amazing for starters. Thanks for this very informational and entertaining video. Liked it so much that I went and joined your Patreon.
The Roland Zenology engine is the direct inheritor of the D-50 / JD 800 synth architecture. It's an interesting alternative to Pigments, Omnisphere and other "do everything" plugins.
And if you want some of the sounds in hardware format, the MC-101 has some of the original JV-1080 sounds in bank E (and some sound canvas on the bank F), but is disqualified from this video because it can sample from usb…
I think the sampling engine in Pigments is great, I've been making dozens of pads recently by resampling bits of VCV patches. It's such a satisfying process! I also dug out an old Akai SG01v rompler seeing as everyone is loving the 90's pad nostalgia at the moment. I've been sending the same note to all MIDI channels and recording single notes with 7 or 8 different pads at once to make a huge stacked multisample. Pads absolutely rule! 😂
@@mudi2000a I expect you're correct. It's been a while since I took proper look. I guess inheriting all the bells and whistles added on to the D-50/JD/JV/XV lineage and adding even more functionality makes for a lot of kludge. IDK if this is still true but there used to be big companies with key compute infrastructure written in COBOL, like single files with hundreds of thousands- millions of lines of code. There was so much invested in the leviathan that it was cheaper to keep it running than start again. Zenology seems to be like that: in order to port the existing IP into the modern era, they need an anachronistic architecture.
@@GeorgeLocke So Zenology is like running Hercules on a big linux box so your decrepit old mainframe COBOL code that keeps the whole operation ticking over has somewhere to live? 😛
Finally went down the ROMpler hole at the end of 2022, and bought a JV-80. A couple months later a Fantom 6 became the centerpiece of my studio and live rig. It would be nice to have a combo organ model, but it turns out a combo organ tone from 30 years ago sounds pretty damn good anyway. I find myself using the myriad of JV tones and JD-880 model more than any of the other models. Not to say that the other models are not good, but there’s so much goodness that came from 30 years of read-only based synthesis.
Thanks for this wonderful post, Jeremy. The world of music production needs all kinds of instruments including romplers. My first rompler was the E-mu Proteus 1 chip built into the Turtle Beach Multisound Card. It occupied an expansion slot in my IBM-compatible Zeos 486 PC back around 1992. I was running Windows 3.1 and used Master Tracks Pro to score with it. I did not have a MIDI keyboard back then, so I had to enter the notes with mouse clicks! About a decade ago I bought an old used Proteus 1 rack-mounted module to get those same sounds. A bonus came with it: The Orchestral ROM! It still sounds great today.
A lovely rompler tour- and thanks for introducing me to Floor Baba! edit; favorite rompler(s) are the old Rolands- JV-1080/5080, I just love their feel.
You missed the K2000. For 1991 tech it was way ahead of the curve. Look at that big ole display screen. If you're into lots of options with your synth engine and modulation, it had the goods. Yes, there was a version that made use of RAM and sampling. But the primary unit was was this crazy complicated rompler. Maybe too many options to rabbit hole yourself with.
"The Triton pads were, are and always will be the best ones, or at least MY favorite ones". That's what I used to shout for the last 25 years or so. And then.. I discovered the Hydrasynth.
E-mu Proteus, command station and associated keyboard lines are hands down my favorite Rompler. It has a completely modular synth engine under the hood and fantastic filters.
@@AboveTheTrees00 Try modulating the start point of the samples beyond the defined limits of the sample start in the mod matrix..for pads I love that you can dial in the glitchy-ness with the amount and by using different mod sources.
I’ve collected almost all of the ROMs for the command stations, even though I also had (still have) an E-mu E4 (same architecture). These things are just the best.
Thanks for the great video! Helps me make sense of all these synths and their differences. Im glad that so many of them have good plugin recreations to try
"Your passion for music is so great that you'd sneak into the lab just to play?! I'll put an end to that." Don't break and enter, sure, but there is room to discern intent
If that prof had been paying attention he'd have offered you a student job taking care of the place or a summer internship or some such. Way to Killjoy™, prof! 😞
wicked vid!! I knew it was gonna be the Triton when you mentioned the exception you were gonna make 😂 love my jv2080 and have used it on loads of tracks!! (dawn2dusk on bank c is a killer pad...) I'm sorely tempted by a Triton rack now... they're so affordable... I love these things, the old hardware racks all have a wee character of their own with their shonky DACs and lofi fx!! Pads I think fare particularly well with older, wonkier DACs, the aliasing just gives em that extra shimmer
K2000 is a romper. K2000S is the sampler version. I had never heard of the K1000 being used by NIN. K2000S was used on a few songs on Downward Spiral. Triton also had a sampler option, so a stock Triton was not a sampler.
Fantastic video! Thanks! My fave rompler has to be the JV1080, so powerful especially when loaded with expansion boards. You can hear its patches in all sorts of TV/film from the late 90s and onwards, special shout out to the Flying Waltz patch which is popular with toilet cleaner commercials. Both the JV1080 and XV5080 were the work horses in my old studio. Another mention is the underrated Yamaha TG500 (I think the rackmount version of the SY-85) That was capable of some stunning pads too. I really must dust all this stuff off and start using it again.
Enjoyable, thank you. I mostly play guitar so the the thing I use a synth for is cool sounding pads to play over. The rompler I have had for this purpose is an E-MU Vintage keys Plus. I also use a few VSTs but the VKPlus does everything I need it to do.
Great video, but if you are going to include synths, the Kawai K5000s is up there with the best(and there's version that has PCM waves). Check it out sometime, and you will be blown away - actually, carried away!
I totally love my Wavestate. There are tons and tons of beautiful samples inside it and if you layer them sometimes true magic arises. The programming is indeed tedious, and unfortunately 9 out of 10 times I try to make a pad it ends up sounding like a piece of garbage. But that 1 out of 10 time that you hit a really unusual combination of samples that suddenly sound more then their parts….
The Ensoniq VFX, released 1989: 14:56 "Used by Jan Hammer in his Miami Vice Soundtrack." Is this true? Did Hammer used an early Prerelease Model? He already stopped working for Miami Vice in 1988, as far as I know. Have you more Information to this? I love the synth and i love Jan Hammers music in Miami Vice. If there is a connection, i would love to know more about it.
I wanna crawl inside a Korg M1 and live inside its circuitry... Like the show ReBoot from the 90s, where it's all rendered in 90s CGI and everyone's blue or green and attractive and there's circuitry and geometric shapes that talk and start drama... That was a show...
One additional comment on the E-mu ROMplers: Digital Sound Factory has all of the original (even highest-quality) versions of the original samples from the various E-mu instruments, AS WELL as the Ensoniq samplers. In the vox section there are some multitracked/multisamples oohs and ahhs and a thing called “Maurice Vox” that are a sample set Ensoniq did with Earth Wind and Fire vocalist Maurice White. They are simply wonderful.
@@RedMeansRecording way back in 2000-ish, I was part of a music startup (that kinda-sorta became Pandora) and we had an odd partnership with E-mu. I visited their offices and got a tour of their studio, which had an anechoic chamber where they recorded the instruments that became the samples for the various romplers and samplers. The attention to detail in creating source material that would eventually get single-cycle (or very short) looped was insanely impressive.
The great value of and effort put in this video greatly overshadows the way you pronounced Jean-Michel Jarre. 😊 So in return I will help you pronounce the name correctly of this wonderful musician. Sean Michelle Shaaruh, doesn't sound like anyone American, but he is French after all. 😉 Wishing you awesome pads and amazing times, creating and enjoying music, cheers!
I created some killer pads in my Korg T3EX heck in the day and it contained extra waveforms not available in the M1. My Trinity Plus and Triton Classic were also killer pad machines, not to mention my Korg Z1EX, Kawai K5000S, Korg DW8000 and Kurzweil PC361.
Great vid. I have a Roland D-110. Still learning it. I was wanting some 80s strings and pads. I run it into a quadraverb. I also have a korg wave state. I have always lusted after an emu orbit 9090.
I've got a Roland SC-50 that I bought off the original owner sometime towards the end of the 1900's and, as a guitarist, it served me very well for years. But only within the last two years did I discover MIDI NRPN's which essentially doubles the power of the module. It's a great way to get 'era authentic' tones.
My favorite hardware that does Rompler things is MC-707 mostly because it's the one hardware synth I own. Probably one of the most slept on modern grooveboxes which is a shame given it's got the full modern Roland Zen Core engine and a positively absurd max voice count under the right conditions. Also a absurd amount of classic Roland sounds both VA based and rompler, soo many gorgeous pads.
I just played around with some Orbit 9099 MK2 pads again and holy moly! There's so much layered shit in there you'd have a very hard time achieving that in a DAW. You should really give it a try (add a short delay, sounds awesome!) 😉
I started off writing a long comment to convey my appreciation of this film (it's beyond normal YT content, exceptional). I was writing to myself how the way that Romplers work in a odd way to "proper" synthesis. My words read back to me as if they were being churned up by the most convoluted envelope and being spat back at me in reverse. So I'll just say thank you for this quality content. Totally not salty EMU Orbit Dance Planet owner :D
That's shared love. Fort me personally it's the complexity of a sound that typically consists of four+ mixed layers that makes ROMpler sounds more unique, deep and emotive than e. g. the comparably primitive vibrations that anslogue synths generate 😅 Wirkung on bringing that back to the Future
The Roland Juno DS is my Rompler of choice at the moment. Unfortunately using the multisampling feature is a bit of a nightmare, but gosh that thing sounds clean and is a dream to play.
The Proteus 2000 is one of the most inspiring weird pieces of rackmount gear I've ever had the pleasure of getting to use. I miss having access to it almost every day.
I'm a huge Korg fanboy. My go-tos are Korg Triton/Karma/Extreme and Wavestation. Though, for the Wavestation I like to randomize the patches on the software version and then apply them on the "real thing" for that extra ooomph
The Roland Jupiter X/Xm has the XV-5080 built into it. Also, you can buy a license for a JD-800 model for it. It is sort of possible to buy the various Roland Cloud synths by subscribing or renewing during their "Play4life" sales around the year-end holiday time. Pro version gets you one lifetime license and Ultimate gets you two. So I have a lifetime license for the JD-800 among others. I caved during Korg's last sale and just bought the collection and it is great even if all you want to do is play with the presets - so many. I would wait for a sale to buy it.
My first synth was the 01w/FD. The pads were just so good. Beautiful, scary, exciting. Nothing I’ve had since has made pads like it. I used to love making rhythmic patterns and replacing the sound with a pad. Slowly swelling as the slow attacks all came together.
Yes! As a lifelong pad and ROMpler appreciator, I appreciate this video so much! The 5080 is the one synth I'll never sell (any other Roland users, get the Don Solaris soundpack, it's ace) and at one point I had a 1080 and a 3080 as well. Which was possibly too much. I do want a JD-990 and D-550 too though for the ultimate Roland experience. And a Wavestation A/D. And a E-mu Orbit. And a Morpheus. And an M1R. And more rack space.
I love my Yamaha Montage and Roland Fantom workstations. I’m wrestling with my Korg Wavestate. I love my Yamaha D50. Which is best? Ooh, difficult to say. Each has its beauty and charm.
The Korg Triton and Trinity MOSS boards were 6 voice POLYPHONIC versions of the gorgeous c Z1. The Trinity Plus contained the monophonic Prophecy board
I had an SY77 back in the day, and it was every bit as hard to program as the DX7. It sounded amazing back then, but is kind of dated sounding today. The WaveState the synth I want. Thanks again for another great video. I love this format where you focus on a topic and do a deep dive.
I first fell in love with pads that evoked "future" or "space" vibes was when I went to Epcot as a kid in the 90s and there was a lot of "future space" stuff in the style of 80s/90s Star Trek TNG grey vibes and its still a whole aesthetic that I want to live daily in.
Jeremy here is becoming the David Attenborough of the synthesizers. And I'm all for it.
Jeremy synthenborough
Here we find an additive synthesizer in it's native habitat, obscurity. What an extraordinary specimen..! Just listen to it shift from sparse, delicate harmonics to veritable wall of sound! Simply splendid.
Thank you so much for having me be a part of this amazing, super entertaining video! If anyone cares, here's my current rompler list in full:
Korg NS5R, Korg 05RW, Yamaha MU50, Yamaha VL70m, Yamaha MU128, Yamaha FB-01, Yamaha SU10 (more a sampler but who cares), Roland SC55mkii and Sound Brush, Roland Sound Canvas SC-8850, Roland Sound Canvas SD-80 ZUNpet lol, Roland SC-880, Roland SonicCell, Roland D-05, Korg TR Rack, Korg Triton Rack, Korg 03R, Korg M1R (tons of ROM cards btw), Korg Wavestation SR, Roland Fantom XR, Roland Integra 7 (GOAT), Yamaha EX5R, Yamaha TG77, Roland Jupiter XM, Roland Fantom 8, and my latest, Yamaha Montage m8x
Cheers to other Rompler fans out there!
ROM wasn't built in a day... Nice history lesson!
I C sharply what you did there.
...it was built 'bit' by 'bit'
when in ROM, remember you can't save any variables
The Roland D50 certainly wasn't 16 part multi tinbral. It also didn't sell hundreds of thousands of units. That honour goes to the Korg M1, the biggest selling synth of all time with 250000 units sold as you correctly mentioned.
Damn, I'm hyped!!! ❤❤❤ROMplers❤❤❤
It's thunderstorming, I'm huddled up in a blanket, and Jeremy's dropped a new video. Today is the day of good headphones, keeping warm, and learning new things!
I’ve been collecting Romplers for a few years. I love delving into their memory and pulling out these exquisite sounds with so much nostalgia. I recently bought an M1 & a Triton for very little. These synths are time machines. They transport you back, but allow you to rewrite history into new arrangements.
Romplers are Golden
My first ever Synthesizer/Rompler was a Yamaha CS1x and - as anyone who has owned one of these will understand - I played on it like 2 times and then never picked it up again. After it spent about 7 years in various corners of various houses I randomly set it up because of the "I just got a bigger audio interface and need to plug EVERYTHING in!" thing.
Select some type of pad preset, add a bit of lush reverb, maybe some granular - and this thing is the ultimate drone machine. Really sits well in a mix with its thin low end the cold digital highs. Nice contrast that leaves a lot of space for the "warmer" elements of the mix.
I use it on every song nowadays. Also taught me that the quality of your music and the amount of fun you have whilst creating it is not at all determined by the "quality" of your gear.
I told a friend that ROMplers and their sound will become trendy once again in a few years, a bit like how analog has risen from the dust. Just wait and see, or get some of them while you still can!
8:04 kalimba sound from Africa is from the Yamaha GS-1, not D50
I was about to mention that as well. The song is from around 1982.
Love the Bluey cameos 🩵
And of the course the rest of the video - more of this please! Inknow it was a shitload of work, but holy moly, it was worth it! Everything is on point 🫶
All these awesomes romplers has me nostalgic for 90s keyboard mag issues. The ads were like a SEARS Wishbook :)
What I’m not nostalgic for is the term “keyboard” being used to refer to synthesizers.
The Korg Triton was my dad synthesizer that he would use to lead worship with.
It got me into music production and it is my all-time favorite tool to use . We lost ours in a fire and I ended up buying him a new one for Father’s Day last year. Haven’t seen him Get that quite emotional before lol
This is a really really cool video. People always get on romps for being hacked synthesizers, but genuinely they’re the coolest
This is a very welcome video. Takes me back big time. I used to go to the music shop and drool over the d50. Ended up with the M1 and was busy with the Atari ST after school for years. I interviewed Jon Hopkins for the HOWA pod and was amazed to find he made so so much on the Triton!
Oh wow that's really surprising and awesome too!
Also if you see Dopplereffekt playing live: Their entire current show is 2 Korg Tritons.
At 17, I saved up & bought my first big-kid instrument, a pawn shop Triton. Ironically, I sold it to get my first computer capable of running a DAW. Many years passed before any nostalgia for it kicked in, but I miss it often now & vids like this don’t help. Maybe the VST would scratch the itch. Awesome tour & history lesson, cheers!
A big part of Romplers to me, particularly the Yamaha Motif series from the original onwards, is that the sounds are designed to sit nicely together from the get go. So you can sequence drums, bass, leads, pads, whatever you like and it all instantly works together very well.
☀️🪐✨ F I Z M O ✨🌈💫
I have a Ensoniq SD1 - its amazing synth!
Thanks for naming Skinny puppy, one of the most creative and misunderstood bands ever.❤
True
Worlock pads, every time i hear it i get chills. And if i’m listening closely i wanna cry.
@@sub-jec-tiv totally agree with you, there is something with that song that is so hauntingly beautiful, btw Oghre and Cevin key's solo work has the same quality, but you probably know that!?
Tho i think its sad their early works were used in guantanamo bay for torturing the prisoners, knowing they are very opposed to these things and often expressed in their lyrics!
@@artsolomon202 I believe the album "Weapon" was made in protest of this practice.
Pads are a blessing. I absolutely adore them all.
Romplers as well since back in the day. They made music history, no matter how hard many synth snobs hate to admit ;)
I love my Roland Juno-Di with its D-50/JD-800 legacy of making sounds, absolutely incredible and flexible. Also, my Korg Kross 2, tonnes of cool options. All my old stuff like a Proteus/1 XR and all my cool Yamaha XG/AMW stuff: TG-55, RS-7000, RM1x, and the glorious QY series: 10, 100 and 700 - full of good, slurpy retro awesomeness ;)
Dude, amazing video! You can really feel the passion and the fun you had creating this.
great video! I have the Sound Canvas Roland SC-88 and a Roland XP-30 (keyboard of the JV1080 family) ANd both are in the top 10 best purchases i ever did.
What you've missed indeed were the Kurzweil K2500/2600 with their vamped up VAST and complex sound structure plus high quality samples. They can also do great pads, especially in setup mode (combi).
the past several months, the algorithm has blessed me with lots of videos on jungle and sample pad stuff, and thought forms really got me lusting over the triton, but i don't have that much money to spare so of course we have triton at home. triton at home being alchemy, and also a good pad sample really just needs a basic sampler. i've made like a dozen single note pad samples so far recently (and many more i haven't saved out of whatever project file i made them in), it's really fun to do weird sound design stuff and then chuck it in a sampler. weird spectral stuff sounds great pitched/slowed down a bunch.
I wish alchemy was still available as a VST. I love that synth so much, but I don’t wanna open logic just to use it.
Hell yeah. I own a JD-990, a Korg TR-Rack, and a 01/WFD. This my shit. Discovered them trying to recreate the nostalgic sounds of old Japanese anime and videogame bells, chimes and pads.
Loved the whole video, you nailed the background music while going over many of the coolest synths ever made. Love you man!
I was very happy to see the wavestate get a mention on this. I agree that at the start of learning it, that synthesizer can be intensely difficult to work with, but it's become my favorite synthesizer I own. Nothing else can get me anywhere close to the rich, droning pads I can get out of it that can become songs in their own right.
I have a new found appreciation for romplers.A few of them, mainly from Roland, were on my wishlist, but my list has grown exponentially. And I do agree about Kontakt, the Play Series is pretty amazing for starters. Thanks for this very informational and entertaining video. Liked it so much that I went and joined your Patreon.
Also, D-50 was not multi-timbral. Only the D-20/10/5/110 were multi-timbral.
and it's waveforms are 8 bit, not 16 as told on the video... anyway, GREAT retrospective, much appreciated 🙂
The Roland Zenology engine is the direct inheritor of the D-50 / JD 800 synth architecture. It's an interesting alternative to Pigments, Omnisphere and other "do everything" plugins.
And if you want some of the sounds in hardware format, the MC-101 has some of the original JV-1080 sounds in bank E (and some sound canvas on the bank F), but is disqualified from this video because it can sample from usb…
The problem however is that editing on the Zenology Pro VST is quite tedious if you compare it e.g. to Pigments. Workflow of Pigments is much better.
I think the sampling engine in Pigments is great, I've been making dozens of pads recently by resampling bits of VCV patches. It's such a satisfying process! I also dug out an old Akai SG01v rompler seeing as everyone is loving the 90's pad nostalgia at the moment. I've been sending the same note to all MIDI channels and recording single notes with 7 or 8 different pads at once to make a huge stacked multisample. Pads absolutely rule! 😂
@@mudi2000a I expect you're correct. It's been a while since I took proper look. I guess inheriting all the bells and whistles added on to the D-50/JD/JV/XV lineage and adding even more functionality makes for a lot of kludge.
IDK if this is still true but there used to be big companies with key compute infrastructure written in COBOL, like single files with hundreds of thousands- millions of lines of code. There was so much invested in the leviathan that it was cheaper to keep it running than start again.
Zenology seems to be like that: in order to port the existing IP into the modern era, they need an anachronistic architecture.
@@GeorgeLocke So Zenology is like running Hercules on a big linux box so your decrepit old mainframe COBOL code that keeps the whole operation ticking over has somewhere to live? 😛
Finally went down the ROMpler hole at the end of 2022, and bought a JV-80. A couple months later a Fantom 6 became the centerpiece of my studio and live rig. It would be nice to have a combo organ model, but it turns out a combo organ tone from 30 years ago sounds pretty damn good anyway. I find myself using the myriad of JV tones and JD-880 model more than any of the other models. Not to say that the other models are not good, but there’s so much goodness that came from 30 years of read-only based synthesis.
Thanks for this wonderful post, Jeremy. The world of music production needs all kinds of instruments including romplers.
My first rompler was the E-mu Proteus 1 chip built into the Turtle Beach Multisound Card. It occupied an expansion slot in my IBM-compatible Zeos 486 PC back around 1992. I was running Windows 3.1 and used Master Tracks Pro to score with it. I did not have a MIDI keyboard back then, so I had to enter the notes with mouse clicks! About a decade ago I bought an old used Proteus 1 rack-mounted module to get those same sounds. A bonus came with it: The Orchestral ROM! It still sounds great today.
Your pads on the minifreak presets are amazing btw!
Thanks!!!!
A lovely rompler tour- and thanks for introducing me to Floor Baba!
edit; favorite rompler(s) are the old Rolands- JV-1080/5080, I just love their feel.
Your videos always put a smile on my face! Excellent as always!
"The tasteful thickness of it."
MAN, one of the best scenes put to film, and you have my respect for referencing it.
I've been waiting for this!!!! Big ups Floor Baba!!!
hey Mikey! 🤝
Jeremy taking me by the hand through my memories. What a wonderful thing ❤
You missed the K2000. For 1991 tech it was way ahead of the curve. Look at that big ole display screen. If you're into lots of options with your synth engine and modulation, it had the goods. Yes, there was a version that made use of RAM and sampling. But the primary unit was was this crazy complicated rompler. Maybe too many options to rabbit hole yourself with.
Note, the D50 is an hybrid synth, not a rompler.
Yamaha's SY77/99/TG77 are also hybrids.
Always thoughtful and informative. Appreciate your work, my friend.
"The Triton pads were, are and always will be the best ones, or at least MY favorite ones". That's what I used to shout for the last 25 years or so. And then.. I discovered the Hydrasynth.
The BBC Earth of Romplers history! Once you start listening...you cant stop, just like Pads!
E-mu Proteus, command station and associated keyboard lines are hands down my favorite Rompler. It has a completely modular synth engine under the hood and fantastic filters.
Yeah those zplane filters still haunt me. I should get a Rossum module
@@AboveTheTrees00 Try modulating the start point of the samples beyond the defined limits of the sample start in the mod matrix..for pads I love that you can dial in the glitchy-ness with the amount and by using different mod sources.
I’ve collected almost all of the ROMs for the command stations, even though I also had (still have) an E-mu E4 (same architecture). These things are just the best.
Thanks for the great video! Helps me make sense of all these synths and their differences. Im glad that so many of them have good plugin recreations to try
Favorite ROMpler... Kurzweil K-2500, though the JV-1080 nearly beats it out. But, it's sample source compatibility was absolutely unbeatable.
"Your passion for music is so great that you'd sneak into the lab just to play?! I'll put an end to that." Don't break and enter, sure, but there is room to discern intent
If that prof had been paying attention he'd have offered you a student job taking care of the place or a summer internship or some such. Way to Killjoy™, prof! 😞
I’m sure someone has mentioned it but you can buy lifetime keys for all the roland vsts individually
wicked vid!! I knew it was gonna be the Triton when you mentioned the exception you were gonna make 😂
love my jv2080 and have used it on loads of tracks!! (dawn2dusk on bank c is a killer pad...) I'm sorely tempted by a Triton rack now... they're so affordable...
I love these things, the old hardware racks all have a wee character of their own with their shonky DACs and lofi fx!! Pads I think fare particularly well with older, wonkier DACs, the aliasing just gives em that extra shimmer
excellent video, i hope we see more content like this from you in the future.
The Korg legacy collection, especially the M1 vst is what got me into synths.
A truely excellent video, v well produced and edited, good narration, just general high quality.
Those magazine ads are bloody beautifully
I love that in only moments in and already there is FF7 footage. I’m in. All the way in.
The M1 has a soft spot in my heart being one of the first synths I actually remember playing
"Every ROMPLER has a fursona" Now I wanna see anthro synthesizers.
K2000 is a romper. K2000S is the sampler version. I had never heard of the K1000 being used by NIN. K2000S was used on a few songs on Downward Spiral. Triton also had a sampler option, so a stock Triton was not a sampler.
Fantastic video! Thanks! My fave rompler has to be the JV1080, so powerful especially when loaded with expansion boards. You can hear its patches in all sorts of TV/film from the late 90s and onwards, special shout out to the Flying Waltz patch which is popular with toilet cleaner commercials. Both the JV1080 and XV5080 were the work horses in my old studio. Another mention is the underrated Yamaha TG500 (I think the rackmount version of the SY-85) That was capable of some stunning pads too. I really must dust all this stuff off and start using it again.
Enjoyable, thank you. I mostly play guitar so the the thing I use a synth for is cool sounding pads to play over. The rompler I have had for this purpose is an E-MU Vintage keys Plus. I also use a few VSTs but the VKPlus does everything I need it to do.
Great video, but if you are going to include synths, the Kawai K5000s is up there with the best(and there's version that has
PCM waves). Check it out sometime, and you will be blown away - actually, carried away!
I totally love my Wavestate. There are tons and tons of beautiful samples inside it and if you layer them sometimes true magic arises. The programming is indeed tedious, and unfortunately 9 out of 10 times I try to make a pad it ends up sounding like a piece of garbage. But that 1 out of 10 time that you hit a really unusual combination of samples that suddenly sound more then their parts….
Grew up in the late 80s early 90s I had no idea how much romplers shaped my musical taste and love of sound
Juno-DS is similar to having a XV-5080 with keyboard. All the patches are there and you can use the same extensions.
The Ensoniq VFX, released 1989:
14:56 "Used by Jan Hammer in his Miami Vice Soundtrack."
Is this true? Did Hammer used an early Prerelease Model? He already stopped working for Miami Vice in 1988, as far as I know. Have you more Information to this? I love the synth and i love Jan Hammers music in Miami Vice. If there is a connection, i would love to know more about it.
I wanna crawl inside a Korg M1 and live inside its circuitry... Like the show ReBoot from the 90s, where it's all rendered in 90s CGI and everyone's blue or green and attractive and there's circuitry and geometric shapes that talk and start drama... That was a show...
Thank you so much for your dedication Jeremy, this was a truly inspiring video
One additional comment on the E-mu ROMplers: Digital Sound Factory has all of the original (even highest-quality) versions of the original samples from the various E-mu instruments, AS WELL as the Ensoniq samplers. In the vox section there are some multitracked/multisamples oohs and ahhs and a thing called “Maurice Vox” that are a sample set Ensoniq did with Earth Wind and Fire vocalist Maurice White. They are simply wonderful.
Oh that's rad!!!
@@RedMeansRecording way back in 2000-ish, I was part of a music startup (that kinda-sorta became Pandora) and we had an odd partnership with E-mu. I visited their offices and got a tour of their studio, which had an anechoic chamber where they recorded the instruments that became the samples for the various romplers and samplers. The attention to detail in creating source material that would eventually get single-cycle (or very short) looped was insanely impressive.
The Ensoniq VFXsd was not used in the soundtrack of Miami Vice!
However, it does look like it belongs on Miami Vice! Ensoniq definitely made some stylish synths. 😍
This is some of your best work. Brilliant stuff.
Some super cool history. The strings at the end are gorgeous.
i have anticipated this video more than any other in a while. almost an hour dedicated to my one true love in life. oh my yes.
The great value of and effort put in this video greatly overshadows the way you pronounced Jean-Michel Jarre.
😊 So in return I will help you pronounce the name correctly of this wonderful musician.
Sean Michelle Shaaruh, doesn't sound like anyone American, but he is French after all. 😉
Wishing you awesome pads and amazing times, creating and enjoying music, cheers!
Thank you
Correction: The Kurzweil K2000 and K2500 can’t sample. The K2000S and K2500S could. The samplers were optional equipment, not standard by default.
Great history lesson and great sounds, thanks!
I created some killer pads in my Korg T3EX heck in the day and it contained extra waveforms not available in the M1. My Trinity Plus and Triton Classic were also killer pad machines, not to mention my Korg Z1EX, Kawai K5000S, Korg DW8000 and Kurzweil PC361.
Great vid. I have a Roland D-110. Still learning it. I was wanting some 80s strings and pads. I run it into a quadraverb. I also have a korg wave state. I have always lusted after an emu orbit 9090.
"Still learning it" will apply for a LONG time. The capabilities of the Roland ROMplers are nearly endless.
Exciting! I’ve been making a lot of ambient jungle tunes and using pads from friends/making my own with layers and resampling so this is exciting!
I've got a Roland SC-50 that I bought off the original owner sometime towards the end of the 1900's and, as a guitarist, it served me very well for years. But only within the last two years did I discover MIDI NRPN's which essentially doubles the power of the module. It's a great way to get 'era authentic' tones.
My favorite hardware that does Rompler things is MC-707 mostly because it's the one hardware synth I own. Probably one of the most slept on modern grooveboxes which is a shame given it's got the full modern Roland Zen Core engine and a positively absurd max voice count under the right conditions. Also a absurd amount of classic Roland sounds both VA based and rompler, soo many gorgeous pads.
21:35 Donald Duck on the vocoder made me laugh! 😄
I just played around with some Orbit 9099 MK2 pads again and holy moly! There's so much layered shit in there you'd have a very hard time achieving that in a DAW. You should really give it a try (add a short delay, sounds awesome!) 😉
This was simply amazing content, thank you.
ff7 soundtrack was written on Roland SC-88 pro. Nobuo says so in several interviews
Ah thanks! Info for this stuff was really hard to collate
Very interesting vid, cool to get known with the things from the past 😊
Very nice overview. So many great vintage synths. Vulture Culture has done streams on a bunch of them.
@32:00 NI Kontakt doesn't read AKAI libraries anymore? Wow! That's sad.
I know :(
Favorite Rompler : Korg N364. Most used and mostly for non-synth pads : Roland Integra-7. Used live for all sorts of things : Yamaha MODX+7
I started off writing a long comment to convey my appreciation of this film (it's beyond normal YT content, exceptional). I was writing to myself how the way that Romplers work in a odd way to "proper" synthesis. My words read back to me as if they were being churned up by the most convoluted envelope and being spat back at me in reverse. So I'll just say thank you for this quality content. Totally not salty EMU Orbit Dance Planet owner :D
That's shared love. Fort me personally it's the complexity of a sound that typically consists of four+ mixed layers that makes ROMpler sounds more unique, deep and emotive than e. g. the comparably primitive vibrations that anslogue synths generate 😅 Wirkung on bringing that back to the Future
The Roland Juno DS is my Rompler of choice at the moment. Unfortunately using the multisampling feature is a bit of a nightmare, but gosh that thing sounds clean and is a dream to play.
The Sq-80 that Arturia has modeled is just a beefy esq-1 with a couple more waveforms and a poly AT keybed. Other than that they are the same!
The Proteus 2000 is one of the most inspiring weird pieces of rackmount gear I've ever had the pleasure of getting to use. I miss having access to it almost every day.
I'm a huge Korg fanboy. My go-tos are Korg Triton/Karma/Extreme and Wavestation. Though, for the Wavestation I like to randomize the patches on the software version and then apply them on the "real thing" for that extra ooomph
The Roland Jupiter X/Xm has the XV-5080 built into it. Also, you can buy a license for a JD-800 model for it. It is sort of possible to buy the various Roland Cloud synths by subscribing or renewing during their "Play4life" sales around the year-end holiday time. Pro version gets you one lifetime license and Ultimate gets you two. So I have a lifetime license for the JD-800 among others. I caved during Korg's last sale and just bought the collection and it is great even if all you want to do is play with the presets - so many. I would wait for a sale to buy it.
My first synth was the 01w/FD. The pads were just so good. Beautiful, scary, exciting. Nothing I’ve had since has made pads like it. I used to love making rhythmic patterns and replacing the sound with a pad. Slowly swelling as the slow attacks all came together.
I enjoy every bits of the video
Yes! As a lifelong pad and ROMpler appreciator, I appreciate this video so much! The 5080 is the one synth I'll never sell (any other Roland users, get the Don Solaris soundpack, it's ace) and at one point I had a 1080 and a 3080 as well. Which was possibly too much. I do want a JD-990 and D-550 too though for the ultimate Roland experience. And a Wavestation A/D. And a E-mu Orbit. And a Morpheus. And an M1R. And more rack space.
I love my Yamaha Montage and Roland Fantom workstations. I’m wrestling with my Korg Wavestate. I love my Yamaha D50. Which is best? Ooh, difficult to say. Each has its beauty and charm.
Awesome video 😎 well done! Very informative and fun to watch 👍🏻 thank you 🙏🏻
The Korg Triton and Trinity MOSS boards were 6 voice POLYPHONIC versions of the gorgeous c Z1. The Trinity Plus contained the monophonic Prophecy board
I had an SY77 back in the day, and it was every bit as hard to program as the DX7. It sounded amazing back then, but is kind of dated sounding today. The WaveState the synth I want. Thanks again for another great video. I love this format where you focus on a topic and do a deep dive.
I first fell in love with pads that evoked "future" or "space" vibes was when I went to Epcot as a kid in the 90s and there was a lot of "future space" stuff in the style of 80s/90s Star Trek TNG grey vibes and its still a whole aesthetic that I want to live daily in.