I love the AA-12, I’ve been asking for one for a while now, but the Saiga-12 is still looking like the best overall pick with just a foregrip and GK-02. Shit, you could get a meta Saiga-12 with about near the same price too. Built one and compared it to a S-12 with about 80k~ worth of attachments and the S-12 way better for what you get with a modded AA, and is legit in the same price range as the AA. It may not be full auto, but it's got better ergo, a higher fire rate of 600 RPM if you're spamming M1, and is more accessible overall. Here are the numbers: Saiga-12 (Bravo-18, M-Claw, PT-74M PT1 /w Buttpad, SI Cobra, Holo, 20 Rounder) Ergo - 37.5 Vert - 155 Horiz - 274 AA-12 Gen. 2 (AA-12 Choke, 417mm Barrel, Holo, 20 Rounder) Ergo - 15 Vert - 168 Horiz - 224 Shame, really, especially the ergo. But hey maybe the AA-12 has hidden recoil stats, who knows. 🤷🏻♂️
@@freddiedavies6415 I’ve acknowledged the existence of the hidden stats, but I’m more speaking on accessibility and ergo more than anything regarding overall function. Everybody knows that 150+ recoil on shotguns doesn’t really mean anything significant, but the ergo penalty on the AA is noticeably abysmal, especially in an era of tarkov so reliant on snappy aiming. Also the Saiga is just insanely cheap for what it’s capable of, and in my experience of using it EXCLUSIVELY for a few wipes, you won’t have the Saiga jam if you’re restrictive on the trigger. Plus most fights aren’t drawn out to that point, and even if they are, usually there are lulls in which it can cool. The AA-12 is still a beast in it’s own regard, especially with the inability to jam, don’t get me wrong. However what I’m saying is that the Saiga-12 is generally still the best shotgun all around for what it offers and can do.
@@chops5084 Some people don't have 10 hours a day to keep up with you no lifers. If you have an hour or two a day, you are always going to be behind and for some people PvE can be more enjoyable. Plus there are no wipes on PvE, I have played way too many wipes at this point and can honestly say I hate redoing the tasks, not playing PvP till the game fully launches and can play the persistent servers that never wipe.
Possibly it has to do with more players getting their attention and clearing the zombies in PvP while in PvE the AIs possibly just try to not interact with them, so you end with more on you? Would make sense imo
Best part about the AA-12 will be for PVP after the event as it has just about zero recoil for the first 4 rounds even with AP-20s meaning you can actually use AP-20s at a reasonable range without your gun deciding to hit Jupiter by round 3
@@SpacelionsOdysssey yea you can definitely mod stalker (especially anomaly or call of pripyat) to feel closer to tarkov but i just think it's easy to forget how different stalker actually is from tarkov gameplay-wise without modding
@@dmtaboo_truth7052 I think the event is cool for a short term Halloween thing going on customs last night hearing the screaming in the distance was badass. Just not good for a first wipe player like myself as far as survival goes
Finding 12ga super preformance hp and rip 12 ga one shit to the chest or 2 shot. Pair with a glock 17 with drum and rip or usp and rip and it goes pretty easy. High damage not high pen.
I killed 93 zombies on streets, and that was just me, and I didn't even go very far or spend the entire raid. I spent maybe til 10 minutes left, and ran about 100m to extract. 93 zombies, 1 player. 17,000 damage in one raid lol. Never beating that record
Kind of dumb that the shotgun unlock quest is locked behind like 3 quests after setup instead of just being available. And the zombies are way too hard to kill. We tried a dozen times and every time people just camp the room of the first task and no one can get anywhere near it 😢
@@ryany4n Your life must really suck that you have to try and flex on strangers in YT comment sections. Don't worry, there's always Call of Dootie for - ahem - *professional uber-chads* like yourself.
This is such a dumb addition. Less than 20 ever made, and the current people who are trying to make it are being investigated by the ATF. Why not add weapons for ammunition that has 1 or 2 guns. Like .45, .357. Hell, all 3 7.62 rounds could use more weapons too. Just add a thompson already.
Consistently making 2-3 mil a run in 3-5 mins with a duo. Run to the infected lab, grab a key card, open the door, grap the valuables, then run and grab the 15-20 injectors lieing around.
@@sixfootdworf9545I think he's talking about performance. Instead of having to process maybe 30-40 units, there are now like 100+ units. Cpu's doing overtime
@Heyani32 yeah... having the CPU process 30+ units pathing and then having to execute that pathing is hard. Idk why they don't allow the AI progresses to be split among several Cores with hyperthreading or even handle a bit more of the pathing on the server side over client side. Shooting, player location, etc. Client takes precedence, but pathing in particular, is done by servers.
Man this DayZ patch looking crazy
Funny how off rip the zombies are infinitely better than the scav AI on every conceivable point
@@krelekari yapping.
damn your funny.. HA ... HA.... HA.
I love the AA-12, I’ve been asking for one for a while now, but the Saiga-12 is still looking like the best overall pick with just a foregrip and GK-02. Shit, you could get a meta Saiga-12 with about near the same price too.
Built one and compared it to a S-12 with about 80k~ worth of attachments and the S-12 way better for what you get with a modded AA, and is legit in the same price range as the AA. It may not be full auto, but it's got better ergo, a higher fire rate of 600 RPM if you're spamming M1, and is more accessible overall.
Here are the numbers:
Saiga-12 (Bravo-18, M-Claw, PT-74M PT1 /w Buttpad, SI Cobra, Holo, 20 Rounder)
Ergo - 37.5
Vert - 155
Horiz - 274
AA-12 Gen. 2 (AA-12 Choke, 417mm Barrel, Holo, 20 Rounder)
Ergo - 15
Vert - 168
Horiz - 224
Shame, really, especially the ergo. But hey maybe the AA-12 has hidden recoil stats, who knows. 🤷🏻♂️
Also to add you can spam the Saiga-12 faster than the full auto AA-12 fires
damn bro, thats a good comment.
Note that the saiga overheats, while the aa12 doesnt - you also cant compare different weapon systems off stats because of hidden stats.
@@freddiedavies6415 I’ve acknowledged the existence of the hidden stats, but I’m more speaking on accessibility and ergo more than anything regarding overall function.
Everybody knows that 150+ recoil on shotguns doesn’t really mean anything significant, but the ergo penalty on the AA is noticeably abysmal, especially in an era of tarkov so reliant on snappy aiming. Also the Saiga is just insanely cheap for what it’s capable of, and in my experience of using it EXCLUSIVELY for a few wipes, you won’t have the Saiga jam if you’re restrictive on the trigger. Plus most fights aren’t drawn out to that point, and even if they are, usually there are lulls in which it can cool.
The AA-12 is still a beast in it’s own regard, especially with the inability to jam, don’t get me wrong. However what I’m saying is that the Saiga-12 is generally still the best shotgun all around for what it offers and can do.
@@mistermalignant the aa12 has about half the recoil of the saiga, including the hidden stats
No meds and a dream
me when the pharmacy is out of my adhd meds and I have to work the overnight emergency room shift
and a bunch of m80 in the butt for some reason lol
Such a Pestily thing to do there’s no other explanation
only like 34 stims and a calok lmao
damn compared to pve those zombies in pvp are easy xD did pve with a mate and we never could take a break from spawning zombies
How about just empty raids? Who even wants a challenge anyways
@@chops5084 Some people don't have 10 hours a day to keep up with you no lifers.
If you have an hour or two a day, you are always going to be behind and for some people PvE can be more enjoyable.
Plus there are no wipes on PvE, I have played way too many wipes at this point and can honestly say I hate redoing the tasks, not playing PvP till the game fully launches and can play the persistent servers that never wipe.
Friend and I had the same experience. Glad we weren’t the only ones lol
@@chops5084 Pathetic answer.
Possibly it has to do with more players getting their attention and clearing the zombies in PvP while in PvE the AIs possibly just try to not interact with them, so you end with more on you?
Would make sense imo
Best part about the AA-12 will be for PVP after the event as it has just about zero recoil for the first 4 rounds even with AP-20s meaning you can actually use AP-20s at a reasonable range without your gun deciding to hit Jupiter by round 3
The zombies make for a cool concept, maybe in the future we can have a mod who turns Tarkov into S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
kinda have that now, what they did was turn STALKER into Tarkov.
@@SpacelionsOdysssey vanilla stalker doesnt really play anything like tarkov tbh
@@hollow5ummer Aww man you thought i was talking about vanilla Stalker? i meant along the lines of EFP the anomoly mod pack.
@@SpacelionsOdysssey yea you can definitely mod stalker (especially anomaly or call of pripyat) to feel closer to tarkov but i just think it's easy to forget how different stalker actually is from tarkov gameplay-wise without modding
Frankly, the zombies are too resilient and need to be easier to take down with how many can just swarm you.
For real, and on pve especially they are just nonstop. I spawned in and they were already attacking me before I could see anything
😢😢😢baby boo boo want a bottle?
@@chops5084 fr all you have to do is headshot them its not that hard
Use flesh ammo like quakemaker or HP. Got the quests done with the UMP
Maybe it's time for you to not use high penetration ammo and instead use the high damage one
I actually had no idea that a survival kit can heal fractures 😂
AA-12 is on test server or ingame right now?
In game
Either L4 Skier Quest then unlock or you get one from the Halloween quest chain. Not sure on other sources
This guy some kind of tourist?
What mod did you use to remove the piss colored mush filter?
video starts at 7:20
They will never not check that corner again
What quest unlocks the AA-12?
just got the game and cant even quest without being butt fucked by 50 zombies running at me from every corner of the map
Love these payed actors ❤
I’ve never played labs but I feel like this is a terrible opportunity to start lol
Its actually not bad. Just hatchet or pistol run the map while entry is free and youll learn it
Same bro lol. Fk learning a map with zombies chasing me. These events are dumb.
@@dmtaboo_truth7052 I think the event is cool for a short term Halloween thing going on customs last night hearing the screaming in the distance was badass. Just not good for a first wipe player like myself as far as survival goes
wow another endgame gun that dad gamers wont be able to compete with
Finding 12ga super preformance hp and rip 12 ga one shit to the chest or 2 shot. Pair with a glock 17 with drum and rip or usp and rip and it goes pretty easy. High damage not high pen.
I killed 93 zombies on streets, and that was just me, and I didn't even go very far or spend the entire raid. I spent maybe til 10 minutes left, and ran about 100m to extract. 93 zombies, 1 player. 17,000 damage in one raid lol. Never beating that record
the zombies has the same respawns as scavs like in same places with more numbers
These remind me of Arma 2 DayZ so hard😂😂
120k for full auto shotgun locked behind quest, think it's better stick to semi auto ones
Or don't be broke considering it's end of wipe and people 50mil plus
In pve the zombie count is trough the roof, like actually over 100. helps…
Skill issue
@@FireTeamGamingairsoft"end of wipe" 🤣 considering it's at least 2-4 months left
@imadriax9491 wipes after Christmas every year who cares don't be mad because you are broke in tarkov and irl
They have the lab coats in game, bring on the crazed Labs boss
Happy Halloween 🎃
shoulda put em on all maps with a bitta green fog, also take away their guns n make em a bit faster. woulda been sick.
it will spread
Its cool the way it is
Wait Tarkov has Zombies now?! Is this a wipe event?
YES its a halloween event
Ye it's and event but for Halloween not wipe as far as we know
On the oce server it like a 20+ min wait for any other map everyone 8s 9n labs atm
There's zombies now what else have I missed.
op metro flashbacks hit hard...
Kind of dumb that the shotgun unlock quest is locked behind like 3 quests after setup instead of just being available. And the zombies are way too hard to kill. We tried a dozen times and every time people just camp the room of the first task and no one can get anywhere near it 😢
It might not help, but the zombies cant climb at all, and stay away at a arms length. I play the floors lava with them .
😢😢 baby boo boo, need a bottle 🍼?
@@ryany4n Your life must really suck that you have to try and flex on strangers in YT comment sections. Don't worry, there's always Call of Dootie for - ahem - *professional uber-chads* like yourself.
What's up with the hideous red dot lmao
Killed 43 in pve and ran out of ammo and died. Had about 20 more on me. best to run and get objective as fast as possible.
Yeah most time I just run past them and don't shoot until I'm low on stamina. Then just dump a mag and run again
3k hrs on the game and never been to labs. dont even know how to get out such a difficult map to try
Practice it on PvE, best way to learn the layout
It's not scary once you play it a bit and learn the layout. Now is the time to learn it. Just watch a UA-cam video on exits before you go in.
9:40 paid actors has to be
Prepare for more buckshot and slug nerfs!!
1:24 I already would've gotten 1 tapped lmao
i killed 53 zombies and they were still coming :c
anti-aircraft 12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its his old pc
Zombies... on labs? Huuuuh!?
there is not point on usa the AA12 when saiga its just better.
I don't remember what I asked lol 😭🤣
tf is up with his graphics ?
This is such a dumb addition. Less than 20 ever made, and the current people who are trying to make it are being investigated by the ATF.
Why not add weapons for ammunition that has 1 or 2 guns. Like .45, .357. Hell, all 3 7.62 rounds could use more weapons too. Just add a thompson already.
its not free free though, you are most likely to lose all your gear, dam there is a lot of zombies
From the best running map in the game to the worst in one update
Consistently making 2-3 mil a run in 3-5 mins with a duo. Run to the infected lab, grab a key card, open the door, grap the valuables, then run and grab the 15-20 injectors lieing around.
@@sixfootdworf9545I think he's talking about performance. Instead of having to process maybe 30-40 units, there are now like 100+ units. Cpu's doing overtime
@@Heyani32yeav saw a guy kill 184 infected shit was crazy
@Heyani32 yeah... having the CPU process 30+ units pathing and then having to execute that pathing is hard. Idk why they don't allow the AI progresses to be split among several Cores with hyperthreading or even handle a bit more of the pathing on the server side over client side. Shooting, player location, etc. Client takes precedence, but pathing in particular, is done by servers.
"nice lady" loveit
Can you heal pls. Thanks
Performance is so bad during this event
52 fps on labs due to broken shit AI that BSG doesnt know how to streamline. Nice!...
This looks alot like fighting scavs in PvE. And u can loot the scavs. Thats the main reason i quit playing
talk about clickbait, the saiga12 is better in every way...
😊
I just died to a landmine on labs?
you died to the propane tanks most likely 💀
Gun looks like a toy
this game still around? jeez...
New full auto shotgun. Only uses semi..
but how controllable is the full auto?
He did use it on auto, it has a very slow cyclic rate
Doesn’t waste ammo. Chat whines.
He used flanking 3 players In a hallway. Looked effective.
Someone didn't watch the full video.
I still cant believe that i have more fps than Pest with the same hardware and ONE PC streaming while playing in 4k XD
NEW BROKEN GUN, METABROKER, META FOR EACH MAP
running labs underground for 10 mins, shoot 1 zombie, well...
Ratting labs has been meta for a while now. Nothing new about it.
this crap look like a toy lol
that gun looks ugly af
thats the AA-12 for you, I saw a streamer asking why it was "under-moddled" but thats just what it looks like irl.
Its literally what it's like irl
As-12 and meta? lol yeah no. The gun is shit.
AA-12, not ASH-12.
I skipped thru most of your video, boring as hell