Yooooo thanks so much man! 2cep is a very interesting method and it’s sad that not many people know about it. I haven’t heard much from you in a while, still doing mostly Minecraft videos?
@@RowanFortier not doing much with videos at all lately. Busy with work and family. I coincidentally just recently started doing 4x4 solves with my method again, so I might actually post something new about the method soonish.
I never thought I would see someone else teaching 2cep. Very cool to see! This was a great video, and I'm glad you enjoyed my method. Thanks for including it in your video.
What about reducing cubes into cuboids? For example, on a 4x4 you can treat it just like a 2x2x3 by splitting the top/bottom layers into 2x2, and treating the two e-slice layers as one (Only making r/l/f/b moves in 2s and as wide moves but u/d moves freely)?
I'm stoked I found this channel. This is what I do woth puzzles I've known how to solve for years. Solving regular reduction like speed cubing is fun. But I love taking these puzzles and going "okay. What can I make this puzzle do?" And you seem to feel the same based on a lot of the videos of yours I've seen. I've done some of this in the past. I wouldn't say it's a good speed method. But It IS really fun. For instance I love doing a Lauer by layer solve of big cubed. It's fun when they're shape mods like barrels or high order mastermorohix. You can see the shape form as you go up the layers. So you'll reach a point where like half of it is the right shape and the rest is just a scrambled mess. I love taking old puzzles and doing stuff like this because it gets me interested into puzzles I've solved a thousand times.
The new method reducing 4 by 4 into 2 by 2 looks interesting but your explanations being unsettled make it hard to follow-along. I tried to make skeletons but did not succeed futher than first 2 layers (4 corners). You make random cube rotations which makes it impossible to understand how & to what pieces apply the wide tperm appropriately.
This hurts my brain… cool video! 😅 Great, now I’m imagining a computer reducing a 99x99 into a 98x98 into a 97 x 97 into a 96x96 and on and on and on and on and on and on….
You can reduce 5x5 to 3x3 my imitating the 4x4 to 2x2 reduction, keep the single center as the reduced center, and have big corners formed of the real corner and the adjacent edge wings. Fun.
And then I learned the meaning of Rowan is all about being such an amazing Rowan I felt like it was a recursive explanation then I realized that this young man is passionate about recursion in fact it is just an abstraction of the thing he is the best at… So yeah Rowan is exactly what his names mean and he loves exactly what is implied by his recursive self descriptive name!!! 😅😅😅😅
Also it may be worth mentioning that: *“At its core, recursion is a tool for reduction. It allows complex problems to be broken down into simpler, more manageable pieces by repeatedly applying the same procedure or algorithm. By creating self-similar sub-problems that are easier to solve, recursion embodies the essence of reduction. This approach is universally applicable across fields, serving as a fundamental principle in solving and understanding intricate problems or systems.”* _(Rephrased by my beloved AI #4)_
Is fragmented reduction even possible on anything smaller than 6x6? I guess you could do (1+3+5) on 5x5, but I'm not even sure what that puzzle would be called lol Edit: 4x4 -> 2x2 (1+3) is possible Edit 2: It's right in the thumbnail too 🤦♂️
1:26 You forgot to say that it's impossible to reduct an odd cube (cube with odd number of layers) into an even cube (cube with even amount of layers) :)
Like this comment to make me officially king of reduction method 👑
Shower cubing thought:
No matter how u solve a cube, it is always considered a 1x1 reduction
if you rip the stickers off you reduce it to a 0x0 truly solving the cube
Thanks for featuring my method! That was a very cool experience to see someone else talking about me and my method.
Yooooo thanks so much man! 2cep is a very interesting method and it’s sad that not many people know about it. I haven’t heard much from you in a while, still doing mostly Minecraft videos?
@@RowanFortier not doing much with videos at all lately. Busy with work and family. I coincidentally just recently started doing 4x4 solves with my method again, so I might actually post something new about the method soonish.
you are a legend for making the wide tperm useful!
I never thought I would see someone else teaching 2cep. Very cool to see!
This was a great video, and I'm glad you enjoyed my method. Thanks for including it in your video.
I like how you call it a 3x3x3 instead of a 3x3 to make sure people don't think it's the 2d 3x3
Can't have confusion like that 🤷♂️
My favorite reduction is 3x3 to 1x1
What about reducing cubes into cuboids? For example, on a 4x4 you can treat it just like a 2x2x3 by splitting the top/bottom layers into 2x2, and treating the two e-slice layers as one (Only making r/l/f/b moves in 2s and as wide moves but u/d moves freely)?
That is also possible… do I have to make a part 2? 😳😳
the iceberg deepens...
@@RowanFortier yes
@@RowanFortier please make a part two
What about hyper cuboids to 3-cubes and other junk?
amazing
4X4 IS A BIG CUBE FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES
I procrastinating this watching this video and I have no idea why. This was super cool!
Thank you godcubing
I'm stoked I found this channel. This is what I do woth puzzles I've known how to solve for years. Solving regular reduction like speed cubing is fun. But I love taking these puzzles and going "okay. What can I make this puzzle do?" And you seem to feel the same based on a lot of the videos of yours I've seen. I've done some of this in the past. I wouldn't say it's a good speed method. But It IS really fun. For instance I love doing a Lauer by layer solve of big cubed. It's fun when they're shape mods like barrels or high order mastermorohix. You can see the shape form as you go up the layers. So you'll reach a point where like half of it is the right shape and the rest is just a scrambled mess. I love taking old puzzles and doing stuff like this because it gets me interested into puzzles I've solved a thousand times.
Dang, nice video! And I really loved the background!
Thank you :D
Technically, isn't the goal of a 3x3x3 ultimately to reduce it to a 1x1x1? _All_ cubing is reduction!
what if you reduce a 1x1x1 to a 0x0x0
That explains it. My 4x4 is cursed.
The new method reducing 4 by 4 into 2 by 2 looks interesting but your explanations being unsettled make it hard to follow-along. I tried to make skeletons but did not succeed futher than first 2 layers (4 corners). You make random cube rotations which makes it impossible to understand how & to what pieces apply the wide tperm appropriately.
This hurts my brain… cool video! 😅
Great, now I’m imagining a computer reducing a 99x99 into a 98x98 into a 97 x 97 into a 96x96 and on and on and on and on and on and on….
Sadly I don't think you can reduce an odd number cube (like 5x5) into a cube one layer smaller (like 4x4) it would be cool tho
40 seconds as a limit for a 4x4 method is legitimately so terrible 2x2 reduction is actually terrible
fragmented reduction broke my brain
Mine too 💀
You can reduce 5x5 to 3x3 my imitating the 4x4 to 2x2 reduction, keep the single center as the reduced center, and have big corners formed of the real corner and the adjacent edge wings. Fun.
Yeah, that’s exactly what I talk about in the video
Very impressive work! (I also love recursion.)
Great video!
Random things: i confused what your logo meaning but after seeing all red i know it said BC which is acronym of your name
wtf how long did this masterpiece take to edit
Yes
@@RowanFortier same
14:20 you tell the color scheme of a cube by solving its corners as though it's a 2x2 (ignoring every other piece) and then record the colors
And then I learned the meaning of Rowan is all about being such an amazing Rowan I felt like it was a recursive explanation then I realized that this young man is passionate about recursion in fact it is just an abstraction of the thing he is the best at… So yeah Rowan is exactly what his names mean and he loves exactly what is implied by his recursive self descriptive name!!! 😅😅😅😅
Also it may be worth mentioning that: *“At its core, recursion is a tool for reduction. It allows complex problems to be broken down into simpler, more manageable pieces by repeatedly applying the same procedure or algorithm. By creating self-similar sub-problems that are easier to solve, recursion embodies the essence of reduction. This approach is universally applicable across fields, serving as a fundamental principle in solving and understanding intricate problems or systems.”* _(Rephrased by my beloved AI #4)_
Is fragmented reduction even possible on anything smaller than 6x6?
I guess you could do (1+3+5) on 5x5, but I'm not even sure what that puzzle would be called lol
Edit: 4x4 -> 2x2 (1+3) is possible
Edit 2: It's right in the thumbnail too 🤦♂️
reduction is a mathematical approach with strong roots in theoretical computer science :)
Never knows there a lot of Reduction method things
Gonna watch entire video if i can
1:26 You forgot to say that it's impossible to reduct an odd cube (cube with odd number of layers) into an even cube (cube with even amount of layers) :)
you actually can, but it’s really janky and it sucks lol
Awesome!
Cursed cubes are wild
"You can also use J Perm if- algorithm- if you want" XD
pog!!