10 Hardest Decisions in the Mass Effect Series
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Welcome to MojoPlays! Today, we’re looking at the hardest decisions in the “Mass Effect” series. For this video, we’re looking at the most difficult moral dilemmas in all four “Mass Effect” games. Our list includes The Salarian Pathfinder “Mass Effect: Andromeda” (2017), The Rachni Queen “Mass Effect” (2007), The Suicide Mission “Mass Effect 2” (2010), Curing the Genophage “Mass Effect 3” (2012) and more! Which of these decisions made you want to reload a save and try again? Let us know in the comments below!
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Which of these decisions made you want to reload a save and try again?
None made me want to reload but Andromeda made me want a refund
The one time I chose to kill the Rachni Queen instead of sparing her
I dunno, but watching your video made me want to reload to 12 minutes ago and not watch it.
@@gregcutting7314 👌🤣🤣
Wrex saving him
Mass effect trilogy is the definition of it is not all about the ending but the journey you took to get there.
Tho the ending and the effects there are still pretty good imo
Exactly!
Oh it’s most definitely about the ending
When I got to the ending I was ready to shoot myself
absolutely. Mass Effect is a wonderful journey filled with amazing story, great world building, fantastic dilemmas that have actual consequences, great scriptwriting etc..... RIGHT up to the ending, where it suddenly and dramatically sinks to the bottom of the ocean just like the Titanic. Best game franchise cursed with the most shitty worst written, lazy ass ending ever. It completely spoiled my love of mass effect for a long time, until the citadel DLC came out.
Not i once again play the Mass effect over and over again but stop short the ending. As far as Im concerned the game has no ending. it ended unfinished.
The hardest decision is choosing garrus partner in missions
Id say the hardest part is your characters skills, cause hes so good. Do you go biotic, sniper or engineer or do you go solider and push through in close. Either way he's got you back.
Garrus is the highest dps squad member in all 3 games. In ME3 he can solo Insanity difficulty and Shepard can play his sidekick 😅
Garrus was only ever in my party if he was required by story to be there, but I'm definitely in the minority on this one.
@@justinlami9573 Yer but to be honest I'm getting a bit tired of the overhyping on Garrus, never really saw him as a better character than Liara, Kaidan, Wrex or Ashley.
In me1 its easy. Always wrex. The interactions between the two are epic
I'm glad I was able to save the quarians and the geth and also cured the krogan from the genophage
Same here. Both of those scenes actually made me well up at Legion's and Mordin's deaths, but they certainly went out with a bang.
@@jameswright4236
...ha! That's a good one xD
Wait, in the blue ending Shepard does NOT continue the cycle! He stands as the "benevolent tyrant" in order to stop syntethics (including reapers) from destroying organics.
Depends if hes Paragon or Renegade. Paragon becomes the 'benevolent tyrant' while renegade becomes 'galactic enforcer'
@@termnus77 Still not continues the cycle)
@@oldy4080 True, just means that they likely become the future bad guy a la Deus ex
the rachni choice was my easiest so far... shephard wont be remembered as species exterminator , not in my playthrough
For me, that's the Geth/Quarians situation because i always have the Third Option.
I agree, 100 war assets is quite improtant
Same. My Shepard is not a fan of genocide.
Right, he is like that kid in enders game don't kill the species off.
The Batarians would like a word.
Did you guys actually play these games? Your mispronounciation of certain words tells me otherwise.
@Chaser Blade rack knee queen
Also the misinterpretation of the control ending in ME3
Typically channels like these aren't run by the person voicing the videos. So the VA probably has never played it and is just reading a script written by people who did play the games.
Picking Ashley or Kaidan should of been on here before ANY ANDROMEDA CHOICES!
Completely agreed. When I booted up ME2 the first time and saw Ashley being a b*tch I was like dude… replay for Kaiden?!?
Eh Ashley's a b*tch to Shepard most of the time since he literally died and was resurrected so yeah and kaidan actually tries to make amends and clear the air
Hundreds of hours of game play .. kaiden lived once .. not a fan and as for the Andromeda haters.. not cool game could have been better but still fun .. not as fun as the trilogy thanks to cry baby's.. game could have been so much more EA screwed the pooch
Not really. Both are rather boring.
Feel like liara is one of the best characters in the game and she's not even my favorite romance .. hers just feels more real
Guys lets be real, if you're playing a paragon gameplay and you encounter Kelly Chambers in Mass Effect 3. You usually pick the paragon option and be done with it. After curing the genophage and saving the citadel from Cerberus. Turns out that paragon option kills Kelly. I had to go all the way back to pick that renegade option, then do all the LONG missions again. Forever my trauma
Mass Effect: Says the word rachni multiple times
This video : RAHCHKNEE
😂😂😂
I was looking for this comment. That gave me aids
Like that got me tight LMAO
REEEEEEEEEEE
i also thought it was pronounced rack-knee instead of rack-nigh
I’m actually kinda happy that they did include some of the choices from Andromeda.
I’ve had the game since day one so I’ve played through the game when it was in its most horrible state and I still enjoyed the game. It’s a shame that it was released before it was finished and was sadly received poorly from die hard fans because it was a fun game and I wish that they made the dlcs for it.
The combat was awesome. I enjoyed the feel of going back to some more traditional rpg elements with gear too. Me2 and me3 lost some of that I feel in favor of focusing on combat. The unfortunate part about decisions in Andromeda is they essentially end there as it seems no follow up.
@hersh1138
Agreed. I finished andromeda last night and I was like okay we can explore after the endgame but...what now? Like I completed all side quests, except couple of secret quests, before the final main quest. Maybe they wanted to let the players keep exploring but it'd be better if we could roam in Meridian xD
Stopping romance with Liara to start and continue one with Tali. Liaras great, but Tali is adorable.
Liara starts off naive and adorable, but ends up very hardened stoic from her experiences. Tali keeps her adorable shyness with you, which is why Tali is best girl.
@@nathanielhughes8071 Liara though is the best one to carry on Shepards lagacy as she has at least another 900 years to live
@@prich0382 any of them could have children and legacy tho
@@DavidHosey1 Only Liara can share Shep's epic tale in the long run since her lifespan as an Asari is really long (plus, she has the memory capsules and as an archaiologist she knows how she can leave a message intact for the future generations) and she is the only one among the crew who can continue Shepard's (both male's and female's) legacy since she has melt with him/her once, meaning she can have Shepard's daughter. Tali is adorable really, but personally I always thought she was better off with Garrus, plus for me she is the little sister that must be protected by any cost instead of a cute lover.
@@umbraaries I think any companion can carry and pass on Shep’s legacy. Not everyone has to do it by living for 100’s of years or writing in the stars. They could rebuild a world in Shep’s honor like Tali, carry on the legend and adopt like Garrus, pass on and live in a family like Jack or Miranda, hell even Thane can with his family and people remembering both her and him through Koylat. Legacy is an amazing thing, it lets people live forever in so many different ways. And I think that the romances in these games each show this in different ways too
Choosimg Male or Fem Sheppard!
Male...
@@williamkerfoot8039 She really is and I always played as Fem Shep, but in the Legendary Edition, the character model suffers from that "butterfly lips" problem, commom in created characters.
Female Shepard because the voice acting is more consistent the male VA is terrible
Femshep
Only reason that's a hard choice is cuz femshep can't romance Tali
Watching these old clips really shows how much work Bioware put into the remaster. I love it.
For sure
It still surprises me ppl though Mass Effect was going to have a happy ending
Yea, that’s like playing something like Nier and expecting everyone to be happy and peaceful by the end lmao
My ending was pretty damn happy. Everybody survived except Edi and the geth.
@@yourevilhalf1413 romance is temporary, controlling the reapers is eternal. My renegade shepard is blowing up planets as a immortal machine.
@@dr.chocolates2630 who said anything about romance? And if your Shepard is doing that and you think that's a good thing more power to you. Doesn't matter to me or my story thank goodness
Had Bioware/EA not bullrushed the game we would have gotten a better bittersweet ending on top of the ones Bioware made.
I can't bring myself to destroy all synthetic life. Not after everything I've done involving EDI and the Geth
Synthisis is what Saren wanted, Control is what The Illusive Man wanted, so the only option was destroy
I brokered peace i was very proud lol
@@prich0382 just because a villain wanted something doesn’t make it inherently bad. Illusive Man wanted things like safety, the Andromeda initiative, and even galactic prosperity over all else, which is shown during his suicide
But the illusive man was indoctrinated. Who’s to say the control isn’t the reapers indoctrinating Shepard
I figured the AI was lying, couldn't see how destroying the reapers could also destroy the geth and EDI, went with destroy as it's the only option the indoctrinated never argued for. Also it's the only option where shepard can survive, so I figured I was right.
Mordin cured the genophage and I still had the salarians cooperation
Was Wreav the leader😱😱🇯🇵
@@AdanyKai Yeah, I never played the first game prior to my playthrough of 2 and 3 so Wrex was automatically written off. Does that actually play a factor?
@@alexc7913 Of course it does. Why did you skip ME1 in the first place?
@@TheK2rla Not intentionally, my first time playing ME2 i was younger and it was bought for me as like a christmas gift so I wasnt originally exposed to the first one. Then just never got around to it. Finally beat it for the first time thougu
@@TheK2rla I did save Wrex so i'll see how that impacts the story
That’s dumb when Shepard took control of the reapers the cycle ended because Shepard was in control and he helped everyone rebuild
While a lot of these choices are tough, if you’re trying to stick to paragon or renegade, a lot of the choices are basically made for you. Having the paragon and renegade choices in the same spot on the choice wheel is not ideal for forcing people to make tough choices
It was a great trilogy though
I agree. While I love this game, having coloured answers takes so much from the immersion. This game could be much more enjoyable simply with removing this morality system from it. No coloured answers, no paragon, renegade diagram (we could get those bonuses in another way), just the effects and conlusions of your decisions. Is there a mod for this?
@@gaborenekes2480 couldn’t tell you about mod. I’m ok with morality systems I just don’t want the good and bad decisions so clearly defined and obvious, but overall I’d agree
For the most part I agree, but there was one mission in particular that made me pick the renegade option over the paragon even though it was a paragon run. Legion's Loyalty mission gives you a choice for how to deal with things, and while I could tell what they were trying to do, the paragon option always struck me as WAY more shady than the renegade one.
@@adamloga3788 I’m sure there was a few random choices in there, but in general positioning the choices more randomly I think would give it a more authentic feel. I can think of a few choices where had I not known what the paragon choice was, I probably would have picked differently
@@milehighmadness1469 Fair, though I will point out 2 things, firstly, IIRC the Legion mission straight-up colors the choices to make sure you know which is which, and secondly, I personally like that you could basically decide how friendly or aggressive you wanted to be, and it'd make it clear to you beforehand with positioning. What would have helped more is if they'd stuck with keeping Paragon/Renegade more of an idealistic/pragmatic split as opposed to a good/evil split. ME1 had some decent moral grey area, ME2 and 3? Not so much.
Did you guys play the same game because you clearly have no idea what the control ending is what happens in the control ending shepard sacrifices themselves and a new being is created with his memory's and feelings and it controls the reapers using them to restore the galaxy and to protect it and this new being even says its continuing to do what shepard did protect and help others and give the people a future no where does it say the cycle continues the only ending where it does is the refusal maybe play the game and listen to what it says
Exactly. They couldn't have played the game if that's what they thought the control option meant. IMO the Control option seems like the more Paragon Shepard thing to do.
It is likely to continue the cycles in the future, since Catalyst Shepard is more Catalyst than Shepard. The way I saw it is to maybe be somewhat of a solution for a while, and if nothing else would buy more time for the galaxy to find a way
@@DavidHosey1 No it's not, the shepard AI is 100% shepards personality as stated in the game, and replaces the previous catalyst because its solution no longer works.
Preserving Maelon’s data, saving Maelon, curing the Genophage, and saving the Rachni Queen (both times) were really easy choices for me. But I’m a goody two shoes paragon. So you know.
Choosing between Kaiden and Ashley was easy too. I hate Ashley and Kaiden is my bro. I think more people hate Ashley than not.
i dont know about that there is a pretty big fanbase for Ashley they just not as vocal as the haters
Agree on everything exept saving Maelon (the guy was a psychopath) and Kaiden.
Kaiden was so boring comparing to Garrus, plus Ashley has cake and a personality; really easy for me
I saved Ashley because I thought there'd be a twist where we could save Kaiden. I mean we were about to until goddamn Saren came crashing the party. Another reason would be because I preferred Ashley's military personality than Kaiden's "haha" side. But when ME2 Ashley happened...yeah I kind of regret saving her lol
You know where it's at my man. Kaiden's VA was the same as Carth Ornasi's from KotOR so I'd rather have him around than a Xenophobic bitch. Kaiden is truly my brother when it comes to my playthroughs of Mass Effect
@@MrSonicHedgehog You know it! I know where my loyalties lie. And it’s with a guy voiced by a KOTOR VA…not some xenophobe crybaby.
What game is the one in the 10th, 7th and 4th position? Andromeda? I don't remember it as a Mass Effect game...
Ridiculous that in a top 10 list of tough decisions, ME:A got three of them.
11:32 ????? the control ending means Shepards mind is used as template for new "Catalyst AI" and in aftermath the Reapers are seen rebuilding damage and retreating. It is never stated that cycle continiued...........
Was literally about to post the same thing. These idiots obviously haven't played the games. Controlling the Reapers STOPS the cycles, the reapers become tools for Shepherd to rebuild.
It is likely to continue the cycles in the future, since Catalyst Shepard is more Catalyst than Shepard. The way I saw it is to maybe be somewhat of a solution for a while, and if nothing else would buy more time for the galaxy to find a way
before doing these type of videos, I'd suggest putting actual research & time into the game. You got a lot of points wrong like the ending. All 3 end the cycles except for the refuse ending. half of these "decisions" can be easy to make if you play the game paragon or Renegade because u get the co-operation of both parties. Also the pronunciation of some words had me laughing pretty hard. May-lon??? City-Del??? lol
I still don't understand why people don't liek the endings...like did anyone actually expect a happy ending ? If you did then you were playing something else than i have...also the 7800+ war asset destroy ending is literally perfect
in order for everyone to survive you need to fully upgrade the normandy, complete everyone's loyalty mission, and choose the right person for each role?
The first and third are true, but the 2nd isn't even close to true. Completing all the loyalty missions makes it easier to keep everyone alive, but you only actually need to do a little over half of them to keep everyone alive.
Thank you for including Andromeda moments. That game doesnt get enough love.
Cause it’s dog water
@@IdontUseThumbnails It's actually not a bad game, it's just "bad" in comparison to the trilogy.
@@TheMarkoPolo2011 played it twice. Was dog water both times
I had heard awful things about the game for years, but after finishing the ME trilogy for the first time with the Legendary edition, i was invested in the universe and decided to try it for myself to see just how bad it was. And.....then it was actually great. I have no idea why people hate Andromeda. Maybe it was bad initially and Bioware fixed it or maybe it was always stupid Gamer(tm) outrage over nothing. But I'm so glad I decided to play it.
@@Daniel-zg5mb
"My face is tired."
My original ME3 playthrough I was able to broker peace between the geth and quarians.
My first LE playthrough I skipped 1 mission and had to choose. The Tali dean dive ruined me that night, had to stop and loaded a previous save from 5 hours earlier to fix it...
I accidentally clicked the wrong choice and sided with only one of them which caused me to delete the save and play me1 to max rank then me2 to max rank which was about 2 playthroughs each just so I could make the right call
The destroy option only destroys reaper tech ai’s like edi and Geth if you have the max war asset score. The other stuff only gets damage which they could easily repair.
In my first blind playthrough of the trilogy, I ended up having to see Tali kill herself. I desperately tried to reload the save but it was to no avail. I didn't know at the time that there was a certain set of things you had to do in order to broker peace.
Destiny Ascension : "We need help"
Me : "Oh no, I have to help them"
DA : "The council is onboard'
Me : "Riiiiight. U thought that was gonna help your case"
Any decision that isn't good for Wrex or Garrus were easy decisions. Easily the best crewmates so you gotta help them the right ways
Up till now I had no idea how good I played my cards right when it came to Legion’s self-sacrifice.
Did I miss something? Where is "whether or not" to kill Wrex in ME1???
Easy decision. You never kill Wrex. Only true monsters kill him on purpose
@@Viper631 You are definitely right. I did it because I wanted to know the effect on the following games. (Because I never did in earlier playthroughs obviously) And I really had to force myself to do it. :(
This was always a hard one because if you kill Wrex you can convince Mordin not to help the krogan so he doesn’t have to sacrifice himself or you don’t have to betray him.
It always surprises me when I see people struggling over easy moral decisions in these games. The Genophage was a easy yes fix it for me, as well as the third option for peace between quarians and geth. I never got any other ending because I apparently always made good choices. The hardest choice for me in this game was the Suicide Mission when going in blind. I lost half the crew (No DLC characters). I hated it because I was younger and didn't understand why some of the decisions ended it this way. My second run-through (re-load save before mission) only killed Jacob which I was okay with (never cared for his character).
The genophage being the right call actually depends on the situation.
If Wrex is alive, then curing the genophage is the only option, as Wrex is a great leader. Bonus if Eve survives, too. But if you sabotage the cure, Wrex dies, too.
On the flip side, if Wrex is dead, curing the genophage is a No Go. Wreav will allow another Krogan Rebellion. No ifs, ands, or buts. It has to be sabotaged. As a bonus, you can keep Mordin alive.
@@garyballard179 agreed. I never had a playthrough where Wrex died but I've seen what happens. Wreav is a moron that'll continue their fight over "Their stick in the dirt."
I mean, brokering peace is rough. You have to either sacrifice civilians for Koris or destroy the heretics instead of redeeming them.
@@davidrosenberg9615 I found saving koris the better of the decisions just because he's such a pillar for the quarians. Killing the heretics didn't make sense to me because after you upload the virus they aren't brainwashed/evil
My first playthrough blind I just lost Mordin Solus. I think it's because I didn't send him to escort the crew back to the Normandy. He's too soft to survive the firefight that the rest of the team has to do while Shep fights the human reaper. Haven't tried it before but he would probably survive too if he was brought by Shep to fight the human reaper. I think any crew members that Shep brings along on that final fight survive if their loyalty mission was done.
The Rachni Question was not difficult at all, morally or logically, since the Rachni give you war assets in 3.
I enjoyed Mass Effect Andromeda although it didn't feel like a ME game it was still good.
When Shepherd had the option of taking over the thing did not continue he actually made them help rebuild the mass effect Transit things
5:29 no, between the krogans and the turians...
the salarians didn't sue it
Damn krogan and salarian support pissed me off I wanted both so I had to reload thru genesis get wreav in charge just to trick him
Making Garrus leader of team 2 is a no brainer man. As is Legion thru the ducts.
11:32 Shepard doesn't continue the cycle after controlling the reapers. Watch the extended cut. He uses the reapers to repair the damage done in the war, and help the people of the galaxy. So as far as i am concerned, Control is the best ending by far.
How is it good? Shepards essence is controlling the reapers…forever, he still knows about his family, relationship and friends but is alone… forever. thats undoubtful the worst thing you can do to ah life form.
@@einheit7314 Good for the galaxy, not necessarily best for shepard. Depends what your value is when deciding. Synthesis gives the ex-reapers free will as well, for me that is the 'best' ending morality-wise bar none.
0:27 damn that raider face emotions...
i choose the green ending....because i actually like alot of the races there , the geth was fun , EDI was great
10:43 “experienced soldier or love interest” and for some reason i can’t figure out who is who, here
Choosing the colour of my hair
Maybe it's just because I'm looking back at all these, but none of them were remotely difficult choices for me
Me2 suicide mission, all squadmates and Dr. Chakwa survived except crew members.
Pulling the trigger on Mordin is for sure number 1. Fate of an entire species is in play and a friend of Shepard is going to have to go... It is a real gut punch. Still remember vividly pulling that trigger. And it was about a decade ago...
My hardest decision was always choosing between tali and liara
Was me 2s end really compared to Andromeda?
So, did yall even play these games or glance over an old wiki? The control ending does not result in continued harvests, Shepard pretty much becomes the galaxies God King/Queen via the reapers, an immortal ruler guiding the galaxy according to their will.
It is likely to continue the cycles in the future, since Catalyst Shepard is more Catalyst than Shepard. The way I saw it is to maybe be somewhat of a solution for a while, and if nothing else would buy more time for the galaxy to find a way
@@DavidHosey1 plus when you choose the control ending it zooms in on the Catalyst face making me think that is what it wanted all along since me2, that or just avoid total annihilation but I doubt that since it does nothing to stop you from choosing destroy. Think about it, if the illusive man was controlled by the reapers why would he be so persistent in convincing sheperd that controlling them is the only way. Even at the end when the Illusive man could have killed sheperd then and there he spent all his time convincing sheperd rather than outright kill him. And also that Catalyst flat-outs states that you will have no attachment to human beings anymore, but your thoughts and memories will be added into him. The child is not gone, but upgraded into taking in sheperds viewpoints. The thing that got me is that when sheperd narrates his/her story that they will remember those who helped them, but what happens when your friends/lover/allies are all dead? Boom, like you said the cycle will probably continue since the only human attachment sheperd has will be gone, and then he/she will be full-blown machine again in their thought-process. I think since mass effect 2 the catalyst wanted sheperd to be a part of it in order to gain a upgrade since sheperd was a extortionary organic with god-like willpower that basically did impossible things in mere months that have been ongoing for centuries. He/she was a threat that the reapers respected and feared. The only organic that actually threatened them and even leviathan acknowledged this. The sad part is that I think no option is good, each one has a upside and a downside and war will happen eventually regardless of the choice. Although out of three I think synthetic one (green) was probably the worst. You basically force all these people to become part machine without their choice or say in it. The machines probably won't care because it just a rewrite of their code but organics it is a complete violation. Destroy sucks as well since you wipe out the entire geth race and EDI, and it's sad because you see legion and edi grow into a more individualistic beings showing that machines have the ability to grow without the need for the synthetic ending.
@@DavidHosey1 bruh we get it. See you in every comment thread. The cycles potentially continuing is just a theory. But the game explicitly states in the extended cut that the being shepard became would maintain peace and allow civilization to make their own future.
A deeply flawed theory at that.
Hudson: Hmm. That ending worked for 2 Deus Ex games, let's copy it. Who will notice?
What i don't get with the queen if you free her you get paragon points and if you unalive her you get renegade with the council in mass effect 1 if you choose to save them later in mass effect 2 when you meet the one reporter if you use the paragon speech check shepherd will actually list off all of the ship names that you lost and the reporter is shocked that shepherd knows all the names
BioWare saw the backlash from the bad endings in mass effect 3 just to add a worse ending
I freed the rachni and took Maelon's research without a second thought. I don't know why I did it but for 3 I'm glad I did.
To save people in ME2, do not choose Miranda or Jacob for anything and see Garrus as the best leader. And Tali will always be my techy.
And I also shoot the Kett in the Exaltation base just because.
And I cured the Genophage as a no brainer because Wrex is badass. And I have enough paragon points everytime to save both geth and quarian.
WTF? In ME2 Miranda is the best choice. She literally can lead the diversion team even if she isnt loyal. Miranda is accomplished leader and if she is loyal she can survive anything. Kasumi as tech with Miranda leading the other team, Samara as shield with Miranda as Diversion, Mordin as escort and taking Tali and Kasumi always with you (apart from the first part where Kasumi is the techie) because they suck at combat lore wise AND you're golden.
Miranda is better leader than Garrus.
The Rachni and Krogan "questions" were for me instant choices, I actually wanted to see more of the Rachni, they seem like cool creatures.
Hmmm. To destroy a bunch of soulless robots just because some of them are nice to us, or the race of our loyal squadmate and love of our lives who cannot just be rebuilt?
The hardest choices require the strongest wills.
5:31 should have maybe cut that glitch from the video.
Honeslty the ending should never have been a choice but an actual single ending with slightly different paths.
I other words the destroy ending. I mean everyone can die, Shepard can survive and everything in between. Yeah with low enough points even organics will be destroyed.
The refusal ending seems unacceptable. You brought everyone to together to basically said...nvm
it's easy to have both Quarian & geth. The first time in the history of the galaxy, a man prevent a deadly war just by yelling XD
Its not that easy. I got lucky in the first playthrough as I was 5/7 when 5 is the minimum. The fact you lose the option entirely if you bring Tali's father to justice as the war criminal he is is another issue.
@@Dark_Voice Well, i mean it is a really easy choice, to win the trial without the evidence. And if you made reasonable choices (not giving veetor to cerberus and not getting kal reegar killed) you don't even need to pass the speech check.
@@TheAusar Not just that. You also gotta talk to Veetor and Reegar as well as every single admiral in order to unlock that. Which may be an issue.
(I for example during my first playthrough skipped, read as didnt find, Admiral Xen and therefore I didnt unlock the Rally option, fortunately, I dont like tali all that much and found her useless so I recruited her last [not counting Legion] and did her loyality mission also last => I had totally full Paragon)
Still, its very easy to not talk to the admirals on the side further from the story progression and if you do that AND you dont have enough negotiation level (because you love Tali, for example, and recruited her ASAP and did her mission also ASAP)- you are left with letting Tali get exiled or report the truth.
The IA Quest is a good one, i don't know why people don't talk about
"Citydel" hahaha. That one slipped by the narrator and the editing team. Fail
I will now and forever say "I am returning to the city-del to speak to the councy-lors in the city-del tower." lol
I got peace between the Geth and the Quarians. First time.
if everything done right you could get both. So why not keep both?
the hardest of these was being a ninja of politics and diplomacy to save both the geth and quarians
As much problems andromeda had I did enjoy some moments in the game
Some moment were nice. Combat, while a little clunky was fun. But the characters were all “lol so quirky and random”. Vett and the krogan are the only ones I put up with. The human characters and peebee were like nails on a chalkboard
@@wolfmirebacta8710 I agree with you on the turian and the krogen character there I did get some enjoyment out of my playthrough
@@michaelgunnels9694 I blame Politics on it. they looked at Twitter and Tumblr and said "that's how people work, and the aliens act just like people right?". The Krogan didn't even feel like a krogan. it sucks cause that game could've been good
@@wolfmirebacta8710 from what I played and finished I had fun not as much as the trilogy remastered now but I did enjoy it
@@wolfmirebacta8710 The combat was so much better better than in the main trilogy. Adding the third dimension and actual freedom of choice with your skills was such an improvement.
The only issues are that they made some old skills incorporated in the classes or go away entirely and the fact that you can only have 3 skills at a time.
Whoa whoa whoa. You got that wrong buddy. Shepard choosing the second option does NOT lead to "Shepard seizing control of the Reapers to continue the cycle of wiping out intelligent life." Your words.
The "Second" option leads to Shepard sacrificing his life to create a type of digital clone of himself that controls the Reapers. This digital clone can command the Reapers to do its bidding. Thus digital clone Shepard uses the Reapers to repair broken Mass Relays, repair ruined worlds ravaged by the reapers, and CEASE the cycle of mass reaping of advanced civilizations.
You need to edit this because you got that part all types of wrong.
Do glad I managed to keeping both side's for me when I played the trilogy and she just fused l everything for me I'll be debating on the end again for me whenever I play Mass Effect Trilogy for me jejeje
Control doesn’t restart the cycle and wipe everyone out, it’s just using the reapers to rebuild. Did y’all even play this series?
Just got finished with the Legendary Edition of ME1, and the decision to choose to either save Ashley and the Salarian force, or Kaiden from the Nuke on Virmire still haunts me cause if I save Ashley I'm giving her a chance to redeem her family name, along with saving the lives of a friendly allied Salarian force who will definitely repay my kindness later on, or I save Kaiden because he's argued to be more likeable then Ashley. In the end I choose to save Ashley, and the Salarian Forces and I started tearing up when I apologized to Kaiden by picked the Paragon option of "I'm going back for Ashley and the Salarians I'm sorry Kaiden", and Kaiden accepting his fate goes "Don't be ma'am I'm a Marine of the Alliance I knew full well what the risks and consequences of this job was, don't worry I'll insure the bomb goes off you just get Williams and the Salarians out of here."
So I did the exact opposite. I sent Kaiden with the Salarians and had Ashley handle the nuke. I usually romance Liara so it wasn't a hard choice to save Kaiden and vaporize the good Sargent.
You can save the Salarians regardless of your choice. Even if they were with the squadmate that dies.
@@davosmando same for me. Ashley died but Salarians lived.
Saving the Salarians depends on you doing the side objectives during the attack and directing the enemy forces to you to take the heat off Kirrahe's squad
I don't know, I like Kaiden and I think he grows a lot more than Ashley in the Me games but honestly I wish they can both die since they are both annoying to me. Like how the heck do they become spectres when Sheperd does the heavy lifting with everything and they just flat-out reject you and fail their missions? Maybe there was something I am missing that makes them spectre material but I think they are just riding the coattails of sheperds hard work. I would probably be less hostile if they weren't made into spectres but honestly they never deserve to be one. Ever since I experienced both of them in my party in me3 I just straight out refuse or kill them during and or after the attack on the you know what.
Anyone else feel as if the narrator had never played the games? "City-dale" for example? Not to mention saying that the control option "saw Shepard seize control of the Reapers to continue their cycle of wiping out intelligent life" which was NOT what happened... Shep sacrifices his life to become an AI that takes control and CHANGES the Reapers' whole mission, using the Reapers to help the galaxy rebuild. In fact, Reaper-Shep says: "I will rebuild what the many have lost. I will create a future with limitless possibilities. I will protect and sustain. I will act as guardian of the many. And throughout it all, I will never forget. I will remember the ones who sacrificed themselves so that the many could survive. And I will watch over the ones who live on. Those who care the memory of the man I once was. The man who gave up his life to become the one who could save the many." None of that remotely suggests joining in the culling of cycles.
Mass effect adromeda was the first mass effect game i played i absolutly loved it but after playing mass effect 1 , 2 and 3 i see why mass effect adromeda is a little bit of a let down but i do perfer the ending of mass effect adromeda over the ending of mass effect 3
Well these would be hard decisions IF Bioware didn't make the paragon options the objectively best choices. Like the renegade options supposed to (at least in some cases) the hard and strict decisions no one likes to make, but here there are just "jerk" decisions. Like no matter what merciful decisions never backfire, and renegade otions never bring any advantage.
Does any employee at watchmojo have a soul?
It feels like if you pay attention to the Geth/Quarian storyline, and what the Catalyst tries to tell you at the end, it feels like the story is pushing you to the Synthesis ending because of the whole, man will always create AI they are destined to die to or the whole AI can not fully understand human emotion. Synthesis just seems to be the only ending that solves all the outlining issues.
Problem is that's what Saren wanted, Control is the Illusive Mans choice, only option that remains that doersn't follow either idiology is Destroy, the correct ending
@@prich0382 a villain wanting something doesn’t automatically mean it’s wrong, it’s not that black and white
The Catalyst is pushing by Shep to synthesis, since the whole design is about preserving life and continuing the evolution of galactic life above all else. Destroy is what Anderson and others were going for, but not what the Catalyst wants. It will accept it since it will still destroy synthetics, but will still discourage it from happening. It’s indifferent on control, since it will still result in reaper evolution and growth (and possible continuation of the cycles after a time). But synthesis is what the catalyst wanted all along, and what it was trying to design. I find it bad since it’s basically forced indoctrination to all living beings, but it is also understandable
Yeah but it is a morally questionable decision and basically makes shepard just like the reapers. Altering the fate of galactic civilization to ensure a safe future. Only through forced evolution instead of culling the herd
10:59 Red, blue or green? Hardest desicion ever
Honestly the actual choice is lol
You can save both the quarians and geth
yea but prob half of the community wont bother doing all the stuff like getting a bunch of paragon and stuff
Rachnee queen?? Seriously, it makes videos like these hard to watch when it’s so obvious the narrator has never even played the games. Edit: At least the pronunciation was corrected for the exposition..
Plus that isn't a hard choice in me1, like it is a big bug. Let it live or die I shed no tears in killing it and or letting it live. Me3 I thought the choice was a lot harder, but honestly if I kill it in me1 I kill it in me3, if I spared it in me1 I spared it in me3.
The video assumes that the player is going in blind. (I mean the everyone lives suicide ending is not a choice if you already know how to do it.) For someone playing blind it can be a hard choice that actually has consequences in 3
@@ihatepenguinshaterofallpen1832 To an extent. Miranda recommends herself as the diversion leader and it's a good choice. For the barrier part it is kind of obvious, that only samara and jack can handle it. The only trap is with the vents part, (at least for me) because one would assume, that mordin is a tech specialist (since his class is engineer) but he actually isn't.
@@TheAusar that on top of getting the correct normandy upgrades and doing every loyalty mission. Plus who you take to the final boss. Take away the heaviest hitters of your team like grunt and garrus and you could end up losing some people. Found that out the hard way.
@@ihatepenguinshaterofallpen1832 i mean doing all content and upgrading the ship is kind of common sense. I can forgive overlooking ship upgrades, if you just don't check it out.
Choosing class
I chose Garrus to lead the second strike team, he's the best
9:04 synthesis also cures i
Uh, refusal was always there as an option.
10:47 kaiden was replaced by Liara in biotics, he was useless i dono what are you talking about.
I allway's save those freaking Counsel as they're trying keep those mutatedt thing's love for not for us
10:50 theyre both potential love interests? tf? couldnt think of any way to describe kaiden? really??
Hardest Decision is choosing whether or not to go with tali for the 100th time
erm you CAN save both the Geth and the Quarians
Citidel?!
Uhh the Rachni is not a hard choice, save them for ME3 War Assets
Yeah lol there's literally no downside to saving the Rachni queen
But you don’t know that the first time around. And also why would you play the games with war assets in mind instead of for the story and it’s different routes
If you look only at war assets, is better to not save Kirrahe team in ME1, since in ME3 he add 30 wa and the other team you found (if he died on Virmire) add 35.
Or let Wrex die in ME1, don't save Maelon's data and sabotage the genophage with Mordin on your side (with Wrex, an extra 30wa from Wrex itself 75wa of Krogan mercenaries. Without him and Eve, -50 from Krogan Clans, 25 for Wreav, but sabotage give 150wa extra from salarian fleet and 25 from Mordin, so +150 wa vs +105 wa)
Or not recruit again Ashley/Kaidan on the Normandy again in ME3 after Cerberus assault on Citadel, but let them join the Alliance forces (25wa extra).
But on roleplay sense a Shep that trust and spare the rachni queen is also one that, more likely, can save Kirrahe, can convince and spare Wrex on Virmire, and forgive and recruit again a good ally that already knews the Normandy mission and part of the crew.
Also, a bit of spice in the story and dialogues are missing without a couple of "friends".
@@2956derbyful the Aralak Krogan Squad become weaker, so a little bit of downside there is (but yes, the points gained with the rachni are more than those removed from the Aralak)
Well, people did not know that back when only ME1 existed.
Number one: *betrays liara to romance tali or stay faithful*
Destroy once you have enough war assets is the perfect ending with the extended cut idk watchu saying fam..
Remember that EDI and the Geth both die because of it
@@nicksenn8856 war doesn't always have a good happy ending.. and they're just Robots even EDI
Yeah, it's a tough choice because you're choosing between Shepard and the synthetics.
@@garyballard179 easy choice, organics > synthetics.. Shepard dies in all of them except a very specific destroy ending
@@darthphantomius411
No, the synthetics are fully actualized. They're alive. They're just not *organic.* But EDI and the Geth are living, self-aware beings at the end of it. They're much more than the programmed killing machines you've been fighting.
And if you disagree with that, then you're a bigot. Just because they're different from you does not diminish their sentience. Unlike the Reapers, EDI and the Geth think for themselves, make their own choices, have their own beliefs.
Most of them aren´t really a hard descion for me luckily
Any choice from Andromeda I didn’t care for. Doesn’t even matter 🤦🏻♂️
The mentioned war in the "the genophage data" section wasn't between the Krogan and Salarian but between Krogan and Turian. The Turian reached out to the Salarian for the creation of the genophage in their charge.
Obviously not learning how to pronounce things in mass effect was an easy choice for the VA
The fact that you put anything concerning andromeda on this list earns you a down vote.
Destroy is the only true option.
Did anyone not cure krogans? Organics before synths bro