What? No long range B-52 strike? No Rapid Dragon? More Boom please. Of course GR has to worry about melting the server, but it would be nice to see. Like an A-10 rolling into a gun run on an AT-AT
B-52 doesn't have that Jerry Bruckheimer energy 😅. A-10s would need a ground base and they'd take a very long time to get on target. Still have the AI problem as well.
We think alike. ;-) I was also thinking Rapid Dragon, but since it drops LORASMs which dive to the deck they would just impact the shield and would be useless. I don't know if the DCS Rapid Dragon can be outfitted with regular bombs (or bunker busters, a few 10,000lb Earthquake bombs would be sweet!) or not, but it would be a great non-nuclear option if the LORASMs could be switched out.
Idea: instead of conventional bombs, try putting RN-24 or RN-28 nukes on those F/A-18s; they'd do a lot more damage per hit and allow you to get fewer bombers out in a faster amount of time. If modding the Super Hornet to carry nukes doesn't work, MiG-21s (which carry those munitions in the core game) can fly off of Kuznetsov or QE2 using RATO and parachute.
I think the issue is hardware. Those nukes often crash/freeze the game when a lot of things got destroyed at once. Also, nuke in DCS, in terms of visual, is very boring.
@@s87343jim Could they edit/make a traditional bomb that simply did more damage to the target but didn't have a huge blast radius? Like a Mk84 or whatever that had an oversized payload/effect?
This was a very fun mission, moreso then I thought it would be. To make it more winnable, as well as just more anti-ground naval strikes, why not add a couple B-52, B-1 or B-2 flights from Guam to complement the naval armada? Drop the BIG boom-boom! I was also thinking Rapid Dragon, but I just remembered they carry LORASMs which dive to the deck and would be useless here. I'd like to see this rematch.
Its LRASM (stands for Long Range Anti-ship Missile) AGM-158C and The Rapid Dragon Bomb deploys AGM-158 JASSM (Joint Air to Surface Standoff Missile;) If you think The JASSM and LRASM are cool check out The AGM-129A-- ua-cam.com/video/aA-uDChfo50/v-deo.html
What if you added a group of bombers like b-1’s or b-2’s that needed to be escorted by humans? I think that could possibly be more effective and would be interesting to see.
Stealth Squadron's and Futuristic Planes VS Star Destroyer Fleet! Stealth Squadron's Center Front Formation-- Flying in Two Formations of Five-- Ten F-22 Raptors! Few miles behind-- Five F-117's! Flying a few miles behind-- Four B-2 Spirits in formations of Two! Few miles behind in the back One B-21 Raider! Right Flank-- Ten ST-21's! Few miles behind-- Five F-16V Block 72's with Optical Camo and Ten F-15STOL/MTD's(I kno Fox2's;)! At a higher altitude few miles behind-- Four YF-12A's! Flying underneath-- Two B-1R's and Five F-15EX's! Few miles behind-- New Hypersonic "UFO'"! Plus The Millennium Falcon with Two Y-Wing's and Two X-Wing's! Left Flank-- Ten F-35's! Few miles behind-- Ten F-117's! In the back-- Four B-2 Spirits! Please obviously include a couple AWACS Star Destroyer Fleet-- LOTS of Tie-Fighters, Good amount of Tie-Interceptors, Eight Tie-Hunters, and Four Corvette Raiders!! Corvettes start airborne!!👍👍
Agree. It should look like a WW2 carpet bombing but with modern bombers. There's plenty airstrips near pacific for long range bombers. Also, I think alien planes should be more nimble to compensate for the lack of missile.
try using ship launched or land launched ballistic missiles or bombs that dive in from above, or do it Doolittle style and launch bombers of carriers(AC-130 with MOABs)
Cap, if you remember what you had to do with the Zeros in the Pearl Harbor series with every amount of set time a set of Zeros would spawn in, it might work just a little bit better with the Super Bogs in that the clogging issue wouldn't affect the bombing times. All that would be left to have troubles with would be the ai choosing not to drop their bombs. However if you want to keep the realism with them taking off, good luck.
As much as independence Day was an all-time masterpiece of sci-fi ubercheese, during the big air battles I just had a voice in the back of my mind shouting "You're seriously trying to shoot down a ten-mile wide space ship with AMRAAMs???"
OK. Suggestion for attacking the bugs. Reduce the flights from a 4 ship to a 2 ship. It looked like the third and fourth guys were the ones to refuse to bomb. Primary and secondary seemed to drop pretty consistently.
In this scenario couldn't the Russians just use nuclear tipped khinzal hypersonic missile? Or could the US or UK use some form of nuclear tipped cruise missile in top-attack drop down mode. Or the Russians using khinzal hypersonic missile dropping down on top without nuclear warhead but just a lot of them. And I'm sure the Chinese could use anti-ship ballistic missiles in huge numbers, DF-somethingorother can't remember the numbers
@@exidy-yt that's why I also mentioned a large number of conventional khinzals or anti-ship ballistic missiles. Could also do a scenario of escorting/protecting plane or ship that will launch nukes.
I've read some comments and many others suggested what I'm about to suggest. Have some big bombers (B-1s, B-2, B-52s, Tu-95s, Avro Vulcans, whatever the Chinese have) spawn in the air at intervals to get around the problem of gummed up carriers and put more bombs on target. For roleplaying you could say they took off from Guam or somewhere in Russia/China.
Hey Cap, couple of suggestions but they're a bit of ballache: Could you not have the CV's be included for recovery's only and have the flights spawn in on timers/triggers etc. That'd remove the chance of them getting gummed up all together (at least in a spot where it actually matters). And I really do like the idea of a flight of 100+ hoomans but that would require coordinating that many ppl and thats more of a ballache then programming all the triggers for the AI lol. Also just to get in the quotes: "Keep my planets name, out ya mouth!" oops, wrong quote.
Hey cap what if you did a series with the US and China strike group working together against many other countries and try to see what it would take to destroy them?
I don't think there's enough navy in the world to match Us/China together. They have a combine fleet of over 120 destroyers. Thats more large vessels than the entire world combine. Let alone the 13 us supercarriers and 100+ chinese frigates and corvette.
Actually, given the modernized US/UK vs Russia/China battle…that’d be pretty interesting to see, given that the US and China were the most effective… _effective to the point that UK and Russia were literally expendable…_
@@flashgordon6670 Do try to keep in mind the limitations they have to work with inside the DCS engine, as well as the processing limitations of their multiplayer server, bro. Especially as the multithreading code dosen't work atm. For that matter, throwing nuclear-tipped ICBMs and watching the mothership die in 20 seconds would take away all the fun.
In a real world scenario, the Chinese fighters would look a lot more like FA alien fighters and someone on the mothership would be asking questions about online security.
The answer is a resounding no, but this is always fun to watch lol. Those ships are actually called City Destroyers & we now have an idea of how much firepower it takes to breach the shields by brute force. There is an excerpt regarding cold fusion based bombs that would sterilize like half of the continental United States & the shields being able to withstand that firepower. On the more extreme end, the Harvester was able to ram the Moon & continue unimpeded. Using these examples, you would need like Death Star level firepower just to crack the Harvester's shields.
You should do a battle between a modern Chinese VS Russian carrier group. The Russian can have the Kunetzov and the Kirov. Over a hundred year ago, Russia forced China to give up its northeast territory, called outer Manchuria which includes Vladivostok. The Chinese are itching to get it back and will do so when Russia is weakened by its current adventure. It'll a good fight.
China cant afford to attack Russia rn. If they do so, they lose the only Real ally with a decent military. And this would Ironically make Russia aligned with the West, and give the large land Border that the west needs to defeat China.
I don't know if this is posable in game or not. But if there is enough time for the carrier groups to get to gather then we could send some big bombers from land bases. BTW, my father's 1977 3/4-ton Chevy Scottsdale has over 300k miles on it. He used it as a tow truck for years and hauled a camper shell made for a 1- & 1/2-ton truck for years more. Yet it fires right up and perrrrs. Nothing beats a Square Body!! ;-}}
Well since the Russians are using mig29s so the Indian carrier is roughly equivalent to the Russian one as both of them have migs and Mach3 antiship missiles
Cap, your content is amazing, I hope you and your team always has success, happiness, and thrive in the future. I have one request however, could you do something with star wars, again? I know you just did another fictional situation, but that was one of the funniest and engaging videos that I still enjoy today. So it would be nice to see something like what starships can fly through SPAA, or maybe even what ground units can destroy an AT-AT. Orrrr even what would the U.S. do if the Empire was making a Death Star esque thing flying in a nearby sea, and the AIs have to support the Humans who need to shoot the Death Star in a specific area. (Kinda like the movie). But anything Star Wars would be nice, if you can get he damage model working. Have a great day!
"Bones", no AIM260 and keep an eye on the carrier to stop it from getting blocked. Also,why not try to use other as well as older carrier based aircraft or even better, include other countries with carriers.
The thing is, the only other nation with a Medium/big Aircraft carrier is France. most other nations with carriers have the really small carriers that can only use Harriers or F35s. Some of these nations dont even have a combat airwing for the carriers. The other nations with Carriers are Spain, Italy, and Australia(has no harriers or F35Bs).
Two ideas. First support the naval strike groups with land based bombers carrying far more ordnance (escorted by a few land based fighters). Second, equip some of the air to ground forces with tactical nuclear weapons (maybe a select group of humans only). Great video, keep up the good work!
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Japanese pearl harbor fleet vs ET aliens. The one thing memorable from this channel's IJN is the swarm of fighters. So quantity over quality, how would they do against star destroyers with fully functional AA?
What about the following 1. USA - 2 to 3 carrier battle groups, including the use of Subs to launch nukes 2. England - both carrier groups 3. Russia - same ships, but add subs 4. China - same ships, but add subs 5. France - Well ... maybe not
if the battle took place near an island you could have the bombers (or some of the planes ) take off from land to try and help with the carrier jamming (or send in some b1s or c130 moabs) i mean end of the world calls for all hands on deck
If possible you could have the ship drop shields at a certain damage threshold. Knock 50% hp down, and now the ship is capable of being damaged from the front. Allows the fleet to get in and actually participate in a meaningful way + would allow some other direct ordinance.
Why is the giant ship not shooting back? No shields, no AA. "actually..." If ET really wanted to waste humanity, they'd just lob asteroids from orbit, not bother coming into human's range.
How about a flight of bombers rolling in e.g B-1B's with freefall bombs at around the 10 minute mark... or even TU-22 or TU-60's... failing that you need more air dropped firepower which means losing a squadron of Fighters to bombers...
You could put an Awacs inside the mothership and when it is destroyed - have it take down the mothership shields as a way to show the movie "virus" attack.
Grim Reapers: "Today we"ll be doing a 1 v 50 dogfight. It looks like 49 of them have bugged and crashed into the ground but no matter. The fight must go on."
If at the ten minute mark, not enough damage has been dealt; A B2 Spirit is spawned in at an appropriate distance for dramatic effect and bee lines it for the City Destroyer. It has nukes and will kill it. In response, a huge flight of alien fighters spawns for intercept, and the players have to frantically dogfight to defend their last chance at victory.
“They have to comply with our atmosphere”. Non-linear technology, direct-energy weapons and vehicles redefine how particles and “stuff” travel through and in between space. So technically they wouldn’t have to comply with physics as most of the population and history understands it. If they have the technology, which they do, to travel through space faster than light, they could vaporize all of the world’s fleets in a nano second.
I for one, welcome our new Alien Overlords. Try to think of a way to disable the shield-maybe a very small specific point on the mothership that could only be hit by pinpoint guided weaponry then unleash every AG plane in the United Nations. Also start the carriers and planes a little closer so the fighter squadrons can clear the majority of hostiles first? Ensure bomber groups are led by humans and each group has a fighter escort? Don't think nukes are plausible-if we press the doomsday button what button do they press in retaliation? Human guile and, it appears, British Meteor missiles would win the day. Great fun.
High altitude Arc Light ? or a few 20,000 pound GBU-43/B MOABs .The U.S. Air Force has proposed new weapons pylons for the wings of B-52 bombers, allowing them to carry up to 20,000 pounds of ordnance on each pylon. This would enable the B-52 to carry the GBU-43 . There’s also the larger 30,000 pound GBU-57. B2 can carry the MOAB as well.Correction B-2s could each carry a pair of MOPs
I really enjoyed this video. I also love Independence Day. I'd love to see you do a re-enactment of the battles but using British RAF and Fleet Air Arm aircraft over London. Tornado F3s Tornado GR-1s Jaguars Harriers Sea Harriers That would be awesome!
Just add the 25% of bomb tonnage that the AI failed to drop, and you should be able to calculate the amount of damage that would have been inflicted. Alternatively, just get more real people in to replace the AI altogether.
Could do a rematch adding more ships... French carrier group, add more of the US carrier groups because they obviously have a a few nimitz carriers and a Gerald (pretty sure they have a 2nd being complete soon) could also have B1, B2, B21, B52, A10, ect taking off from a nearby ground airbase. though my main thought is how would the server handle it. still a great vid tho!
Oh yeah and could have the Chinese with H-20s and Russians with PAK-DAs... also for some really odd reason i wanna see carriers like the USS America in a vid not to sure how they could be used for this other than launching only Murder F35s
Its disappointing to see how much trouble this gave you guys. I'm sorry it was so rough. Maybe revisit the idea in 2-3 years if/when more of the bugs and stability issues have been worked out?
Remove the support ships and give the US and UK more than one carrier and assign each extra carrier to solely bombers. Bring in each nations Air Force with heavier bombers too.
damn aliens . . . nuke-um, long-range bombers, rods from the gods, rail guns, hell anything and everything all at once, just get rid of them damn aliens would ya.
I was looking forward to you guys lighting the cigars at the end; also Will Smith could have smacked those aliens! Ironically, I'm working at a client next week that has their offices at one of their locations, which is a cigar lounge and bar. Close the distance between the strike groups and alien ship. Remove the shield and allow anti-ship missiles. Use more bombers and rely on the closer ships to take out enemy air with SAMs (VLS). We want maximum boom-booms! Also, the US has 71 Arleigh Burkes alone, feel free to add some more to the group as the Brits and NATO are known to travel with supplemental Burkes and mixed fleets in general. Even if the alien ships needs to be boosted with more health (to counter no shield and use of ASM), the extra boom-booms and missiles firing plus the crazy display of SAMs vs. enemy fighters will be worth it.
Bring in the Air Forces? Some B-1's, B-2's, B-21's, B-52's, TU-144's or what the heck the Russians have for Bombers? Just a thought. Take it or leave it.
What? No long range B-52 strike? No Rapid Dragon? More Boom please. Of course GR has to worry about melting the server, but it would be nice to see. Like an A-10 rolling into a gun run on an AT-AT
B-52 doesn't have that Jerry Bruckheimer energy 😅. A-10s would need a ground base and they'd take a very long time to get on target. Still have the AI problem as well.
I want this so much
@@TroySpace So? Ground bases aren’t a problem, there’s many DCS maps with ground bases and enough water for a few Carrier Groups
We think alike. ;-) I was also thinking Rapid Dragon, but since it drops LORASMs which dive to the deck they would just impact the shield and would be useless. I don't know if the DCS Rapid Dragon can be outfitted with regular bombs (or bunker busters, a few 10,000lb Earthquake bombs would be sweet!) or not, but it would be a great non-nuclear option if the LORASMs could be switched out.
C-130/MOAB's...just sayin'
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Idea: instead of conventional bombs, try putting RN-24 or RN-28 nukes on those F/A-18s; they'd do a lot more damage per hit and allow you to get fewer bombers out in a faster amount of time. If modding the Super Hornet to carry nukes doesn't work, MiG-21s (which carry those munitions in the core game) can fly off of Kuznetsov or QE2 using RATO and parachute.
Better yet, have a submarine strike with nuclear-tipped missiles..
I think the issue is hardware. Those nukes often crash/freeze the game when a lot of things got destroyed at once. Also, nuke in DCS, in terms of visual, is very boring.
I was thinking ... What about MOABs ?
@@lordsqueak You'd need to get a whole lot of C-130's in formation, that's the only thing capable of carrying that ordnance.
@@s87343jim Could they edit/make a traditional bomb that simply did more damage to the target but didn't have a huge blast radius? Like a Mk84 or whatever that had an oversized payload/effect?
This was a very fun mission, moreso then I thought it would be. To make it more winnable, as well as just more anti-ground naval strikes, why not add a couple B-52, B-1 or B-2 flights from Guam to complement the naval armada? Drop the BIG boom-boom! I was also thinking Rapid Dragon, but I just remembered they carry LORASMs which dive to the deck and would be useless here. I'd like to see this rematch.
Its LRASM (stands for Long Range Anti-ship Missile) AGM-158C and The Rapid Dragon Bomb deploys AGM-158 JASSM (Joint Air to Surface Standoff Missile;)
If you think The JASSM and LRASM are cool check out The AGM-129A-- ua-cam.com/video/aA-uDChfo50/v-deo.html
@@Anarchy_420 ......lolwut?
@@exidy-yt you spelled it LORASM😆
@@exidy-yt just trying to give you some info✌
Plus post my request for Stealth Squadron's and Futuristic Planes VS Star Destroyer Fleet!👍
@@Anarchy_420 Irregardless of how I spelt it (I'm not a goddamn arms merchant) they would be useless in this particular mission.
What if you added a group of bombers like b-1’s or b-2’s that needed to be escorted by humans? I think that could possibly be more effective and would be interesting to see.
Stealth Squadron's and Futuristic Planes VS Star Destroyer Fleet!
Stealth Squadron's Center Front Formation-- Flying in Two Formations of Five-- Ten F-22 Raptors! Few miles behind-- Five F-117's! Flying a few miles behind-- Four B-2 Spirits in formations of Two! Few miles behind in the back One B-21 Raider!
Right Flank-- Ten ST-21's! Few miles behind-- Five F-16V Block 72's with Optical Camo and Ten F-15STOL/MTD's(I kno Fox2's;)! At a higher altitude few miles behind-- Four YF-12A's! Flying underneath-- Two B-1R's and Five F-15EX's! Few miles behind-- New Hypersonic "UFO'"! Plus The Millennium Falcon with Two Y-Wing's and Two X-Wing's!
Left Flank-- Ten F-35's! Few miles behind-- Ten F-117's! In the back-- Four B-2 Spirits! Please obviously include a couple AWACS
Star Destroyer Fleet-- LOTS of Tie-Fighters, Good amount of Tie-Interceptors, Eight Tie-Hunters, and Four Corvette Raiders!! Corvettes start airborne!!👍👍
skyline reference?
Agree. It should look like a WW2 carpet bombing but with modern bombers. There's plenty airstrips near pacific for long range bombers. Also, I think alien planes should be more nimble to compensate for the lack of missile.
try using ship launched or land launched ballistic missiles or bombs that dive in from above, or do it Doolittle style and launch bombers of carriers(AC-130 with MOABs)
Cap, if you remember what you had to do with the Zeros in the Pearl Harbor series with every amount of set time a set of Zeros would spawn in, it might work just a little bit better with the Super Bogs in that the clogging issue wouldn't affect the bombing times. All that would be left to have troubles with would be the ai choosing not to drop their bombs. However if you want to keep the realism with them taking off, good luck.
As much as independence Day was an all-time masterpiece of sci-fi ubercheese, during the big air battles I just had a voice in the back of my mind shouting "You're seriously trying to shoot down a ten-mile wide space ship with AMRAAMs???"
Like we had more missiles that a more variety of payloads that are more than the AMRAAMs.
Most of the Sparrows probably still would have missed the damned thing.
OK.
Suggestion for attacking the bugs.
Reduce the flights from a 4 ship to a 2 ship. It looked like the third and fourth guys were the ones to refuse to bomb. Primary and secondary seemed to drop pretty consistently.
In this scenario couldn't the Russians just use nuclear tipped khinzal hypersonic missile? Or could the US or UK use some form of nuclear tipped cruise missile in top-attack drop down mode. Or the Russians using khinzal hypersonic missile dropping down on top without nuclear warhead but just a lot of them. And I'm sure the Chinese could use anti-ship ballistic missiles in huge numbers, DF-somethingorother can't remember the numbers
But where's the fun in just nuking the mothership?
@@exidy-yt that's why I also mentioned a large number of conventional khinzals or anti-ship ballistic missiles. Could also do a scenario of escorting/protecting plane or ship that will launch nukes.
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If an alien FA fighter crashed on his lawn, he'd climb in and punch the pilot's lights out. "Welcome to England!"
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Yep. That’s why I joined the GR Patreon, and am learning to fly. Well, crash a lot so far, but…
@@waynesworldofsci-tech same for me, though I'm hoping someday to at least be competent enough to fly with GR
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I've read some comments and many others suggested what I'm about to suggest. Have some big bombers (B-1s, B-2, B-52s, Tu-95s, Avro Vulcans, whatever the Chinese have) spawn in the air at intervals to get around the problem of gummed up carriers and put more bombs on target. For roleplaying you could say they took off from Guam or somewhere in Russia/China.
what does gummed up mean?
@@NoNameAtAll2 jammed and cluttered. That's what he meant.
Hey Cap, couple of suggestions but they're a bit of ballache: Could you not have the CV's be included for recovery's only and have the flights spawn in on timers/triggers etc. That'd remove the chance of them getting gummed up all together (at least in a spot where it actually matters). And I really do like the idea of a flight of 100+ hoomans but that would require coordinating that many ppl and thats more of a ballache then programming all the triggers for the AI lol. Also just to get in the quotes: "Keep my planets name, out ya mouth!" oops, wrong quote.
Did someone just suggest that an Independence Day star's spousal-unit is not from Earth?
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What about having B52 Stratofortress come as a last-minute calvary. Must have enemies aircraft cleared first. Or something like that.
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5:35 they also have shields ;)
49:03 should eject right over it after coming up after crashing then parachute down onto it!
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The planet is under attack by aliens and France decides to sit this one out? LOL.
But I'm le tired....
french probably did their best . which is surrender .just like WW2
@@traveler8052 Thats a low blow. Uncalled for
Hey cap what if you did a series with the US and China strike group working together against many other countries and try to see what it would take to destroy them?
I don't think there's enough navy in the world to match Us/China together. They have a combine fleet of over 120 destroyers. Thats more large vessels than the entire world combine. Let alone the 13 us supercarriers and 100+ chinese frigates and corvette.
Oh no is that the Firefly universe??
Actually, given the modernized US/UK vs Russia/China battle…that’d be pretty interesting to see, given that the US and China were the most effective…
_effective to the point that UK and Russia were literally expendable…_
@@flashgordon6670 Do try to keep in mind the limitations they have to work with inside the DCS engine, as well as the processing limitations of their multiplayer server, bro. Especially as the multithreading code dosen't work atm. For that matter, throwing nuclear-tipped ICBMs and watching the mothership die in 20 seconds would take away all the fun.
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In a real world scenario, the Chinese fighters would look a lot more like FA alien fighters and someone on the mothership would be asking questions about online security.
Oh you know China would be ripping them off and making copies just like every thing else and make them cheaper on top of it!
LOL
I'm wondering if bunk buster bombs would do more damage IRL.
Hit the aliens with B52s
MOABs?
Is there anyone that does this but actually good ??, watching this guy flip through the maps and barely slow any action is beyond painful
The answer is a resounding no, but this is always fun to watch lol.
Those ships are actually called City Destroyers & we now have an idea of how much firepower it takes to breach the shields by brute force. There is an excerpt regarding cold fusion based bombs that would sterilize like half of the continental United States & the shields being able to withstand that firepower. On the more extreme end, the Harvester was able to ram the Moon & continue unimpeded. Using these examples, you would need like Death Star level firepower just to crack the Harvester's shields.
6 medium to large yield nukes should probably be enpough to crack a city destroyers shield. the cold fusion bombs were overkill.
@@tetraxis3011 the overkill to kill the overkill.
@@merafirewing6591 Yea
You should do a battle between a modern Chinese VS Russian carrier group. The Russian can have the Kunetzov and the Kirov. Over a hundred year ago, Russia forced China to give up its northeast territory, called outer Manchuria which includes Vladivostok. The Chinese are itching to get it back and will do so when Russia is weakened by its current adventure. It'll a good fight.
China cant afford to attack Russia rn. If they do so, they lose the only Real ally with a decent military. And this would Ironically make Russia aligned with the West, and give the large land Border that the west needs to defeat China.
Another great video guys. I would recommend Cap's B-1 barrage from the previous vid. Maybe scheduled to arrive with ~15 min left on the clock.
How about having a flight of Bones coming in from afar to provide a last ditch effort with a massive arclight on the alien ship?
Maybe sometime in the future try this again with the B52 stratofortress
I don't know if this is posable in game or not. But if there is enough time for the carrier groups to get to gather then we could send some big bombers from land bases. BTW, my father's 1977 3/4-ton Chevy Scottsdale has over 300k miles on it. He used it as a tow truck for years and hauled a camper shell made for a 1- & 1/2-ton truck for years more. Yet it fires right up and perrrrs. Nothing beats a Square Body!! ;-}}
You know what grim.... I still can,t bielive you are playing dcs on this video
You should have added French 🇫🇷 and Indian 🇮🇳 strike groups too
Yes
Too much for the servers, even then India doesnt have a CSG
@@Hhhh22222-w India already has 2 carriers
@@Hhhh22222-w Bro in which universe are you living?
Well since the Russians are using mig29s so the Indian carrier is roughly equivalent to the Russian one as both of them have migs and Mach3 antiship missiles
The A wing is my absolute favorite fantasy aircraft thank you for giving them some spotlight
What A-wings? There was no Star Wars in this fight
Could you add the french Navy and the charles degaul and their wing of rafales.
Could add a couple of wings of B52s to arclight the ship, but they only go over once.
What about nuking them? With Tridant II?
Or if it’s not an option then use bigger bombs and bigger bombers :D
Parachutes wont deploy on ejection seats until 15-10 feet due to cold and lack of oxygen.
was expecting the B2 bomber doing a fly by with nukes lol
Cap, your content is amazing, I hope you and your team always has success, happiness, and thrive in the future. I have one request however, could you do something with star wars, again? I know you just did another fictional situation, but that was one of the funniest and engaging videos that I still enjoy today. So it would be nice to see something like what starships can fly through SPAA, or maybe even what ground units can destroy an AT-AT. Orrrr even what would the U.S. do if the Empire was making a Death Star esque thing flying in a nearby sea, and the AIs have to support the Humans who need to shoot the Death Star in a specific area. (Kinda like the movie). But anything Star Wars would be nice, if you can get he damage model working. Have a great day!
"Bones", no AIM260 and keep an eye on the carrier to stop it from getting blocked. Also,why not try to use other as well as older carrier based aircraft or even better, include other countries with carriers.
The thing is, the only other nation with a Medium/big Aircraft carrier is France. most other nations with carriers have the really small carriers that can only use Harriers or F35s. Some of these nations dont even have a combat airwing for the carriers.
The other nations with Carriers are Spain, Italy, and Australia(has no harriers or F35Bs).
For real tho.... I heard the aliens have a 'pause' button that only affects their enemies. We're kinda screwed on that one..
the alien that landed in gaun isn't going to get nachos hes going get some 55.6
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Two ideas. First support the naval strike groups with land based bombers carrying far more ordnance (escorted by a few land based fighters). Second, equip some of the air to ground forces with tactical nuclear weapons (maybe a select group of humans only). Great video, keep up the good work!
No nukes?
We need more Michael Bay explosions.
Simba: "Wait, there's more!" Then Cap's cheerleading is epic in these video's makes it worth watching, even if it is completely outside the realm of possibilities.
Japanese pearl harbor fleet vs ET aliens.
The one thing memorable from this channel's IJN is the swarm of fighters.
So quantity over quality, how would they do against star destroyers with fully functional AA?
That would be super fun.
Insert B52 Bombers and B1s, and B2s as well as some blackjack bombers and bear bombers.
Bold of you to assume Russia will have a carrier group in 2025
What about the following
1. USA - 2 to 3 carrier battle groups, including the use of Subs to launch nukes
2. England - both carrier groups
3. Russia - same ships, but add subs
4. China - same ships, but add subs
5. France - Well ... maybe not
They should add the Kirov-class battlecruiser for the Russians and an Iowa class battleship for the USA.
@@lukemcgahern2357 England 🏴 is a country of the UK 🇬🇧
if the battle took place near an island you could have the bombers (or some of the planes ) take off from land to try and help with the carrier jamming (or send in some b1s or c130 moabs) i mean end of the world calls for all hands on deck
I like SF, but keep it grounded in reality... A Russian carrier battlegroup?
Escort mission for a 4x rapid dragon strike on the world destroyer.
11:10 Cap turns in to an Auctioneer for about 15 to 20 seconds, and I lost my shit lol
At least you destroyed the alien captain's career...
"YOU LET A BUNCH OF ROCK HUGGING CAVEMEN DO THIS KIND OF DAMAGE TO SUCH A PRESTIGOUS WARSHIP!?!?"
Now that's alot of damage.
If possible you could have the ship drop shields at a certain damage threshold. Knock 50% hp down, and now the ship is capable of being damaged from the front. Allows the fleet to get in and actually participate in a meaningful way + would allow some other direct ordinance.
but the fleet would have fired all Ashm by that point tho.
The US would probably have B-21s running in with MOABs if possible.
Why is the giant ship not shooting back? No shields, no AA.
"actually..." If ET really wanted to waste humanity, they'd just lob asteroids from orbit, not bother coming into human's range.
Unless they really want to get up close and personal.
Now that is a dynamic mission server I would LOOOOOVE to see and play. Alien invasion and the whole of humanity united to fight the aliens off!!!
this was really cool. I have always wanted to see a battle like this one. great job even if you lost.
Add more US Carrier groups!
How about a flight of bombers rolling in e.g B-1B's with freefall bombs at around the 10 minute mark... or even TU-22 or TU-60's... failing that you need more air dropped firepower which means losing a squadron of Fighters to bombers...
I am so incredibly jealous of your knowledge of the game.
Where are the B-52s?
What an incredible sight, 4 different nations carrier groups working together.
You could put an Awacs inside the mothership and when it is destroyed - have it take down the mothership shields as a way to show the movie "virus" attack.
Grim Reapers: "Today we"ll be doing a 1 v 50 dogfight. It looks like 49 of them have bugged and crashed into the ground but no matter. The fight must go on."
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Bring in the BONE!!!! They would have scrambled once the baddie is located.
If at the ten minute mark, not enough damage has been dealt; A B2 Spirit is spawned in at an appropriate distance for dramatic effect and bee lines it for the City Destroyer. It has nukes and will kill it.
In response, a huge flight of alien fighters spawns for intercept, and the players have to frantically dogfight to defend their last chance at victory.
I always hoped somebody would make a xenonauts mod for DCS. The planes and UFOs from the xdivision mod are fantastic
“They have to comply with our atmosphere”. Non-linear technology, direct-energy weapons and vehicles redefine how particles and “stuff” travel through and in between space. So technically they wouldn’t have to comply with physics as most of the population and history understands it. If they have the technology, which they do, to travel through space faster than light, they could vaporize all of the world’s fleets in a nano second.
I for one, welcome our new Alien Overlords. Try to think of a way to disable the shield-maybe a very small specific point on the mothership that could only be hit by pinpoint guided weaponry then unleash every AG plane in the United Nations. Also start the carriers and planes a little closer so the fighter squadrons can clear the majority of hostiles first? Ensure bomber groups are led by humans and each group has a fighter escort? Don't think nukes are plausible-if we press the doomsday button what button do they press in retaliation? Human guile and, it appears, British Meteor missiles would win the day. Great fun.
High altitude Arc Light ? or a few 20,000 pound GBU-43/B MOABs .The U.S. Air Force has proposed new weapons pylons for the wings of B-52 bombers, allowing them to carry up to 20,000 pounds of ordnance on each pylon. This would enable the B-52 to carry the GBU-43 . There’s also the larger 30,000 pound GBU-57. B2 can carry the MOAB as well.Correction B-2s could each carry a pair of MOPs
I really enjoyed this video. I also love Independence Day.
I'd love to see you do a re-enactment of the battles but using British RAF and Fleet Air Arm aircraft over London.
Tornado F3s
Tornado GR-1s
Jaguars
Harriers
Sea Harriers
That would be awesome!
Just add the 25% of bomb tonnage that the AI failed to drop, and you should be able to calculate the amount of damage that would have been inflicted. Alternatively, just get more real people in to replace the AI altogether.
Could do a rematch adding more ships... French carrier group, add more of the US carrier groups because they obviously have a a few nimitz carriers and a Gerald (pretty sure they have a 2nd being complete soon) could also have B1, B2, B21, B52, A10, ect taking off from a nearby ground airbase. though my main thought is how would the server handle it. still a great vid tho!
Oh yeah and could have the Chinese with H-20s and Russians with PAK-DAs... also for some really odd reason i wanna see carriers like the USS America in a vid not to sure how they could be used for this other than launching only Murder F35s
I would say remove the shield that way the Navy Ships play a greater role and can help make up some of the damage when the AI bombers go buggy.
Be like the movie and say Will and Jeff managed to get to the mothership and take out the shields with the virus.
"It's the Americans. They want to organize a counter offensive!"
I'd like to a see a campaign about an alien invasion taking over the world but the Reapers slowly recapturing the planet
Love the idea that you can deal with an alien fighter by calling them a bellend!
Next time call Nick Fury and ask for The Avengers.
I demand a rematch in this scenerio.
Just too bad that the normal mortal DCS player cant have the same fun with modern armament in DCS. i wish i could have participated 😊
Its disappointing to see how much trouble this gave you guys. I'm sorry it was so rough. Maybe revisit the idea in 2-3 years if/when more of the bugs and stability issues have been worked out?
We will not wander quietly into the server crash😃
'all over you like a cheap suit' great quote!
Remove the support ships and give the US and UK more than one carrier and assign each extra carrier to solely bombers. Bring in each nations Air Force with heavier bombers too.
Are you trying to destroy earth, Cap?
damn aliens . . . nuke-um, long-range bombers, rods from the gods, rail guns, hell anything and everything all at once, just get rid of them damn aliens would ya.
Nice little nod to Reagan's UN speech there at 9:51ish
Modern missiles dive down >OR< MiG21 with nuclear standoff bomb?
I was looking forward to you guys lighting the cigars at the end; also Will Smith could have smacked those aliens! Ironically, I'm working at a client next week that has their offices at one of their locations, which is a cigar lounge and bar.
Close the distance between the strike groups and alien ship. Remove the shield and allow anti-ship missiles. Use more bombers and rely on the closer ships to take out enemy air with SAMs (VLS). We want maximum boom-booms! Also, the US has 71 Arleigh Burkes alone, feel free to add some more to the group as the Brits and NATO are known to travel with supplemental Burkes and mixed fleets in general. Even if the alien ships needs to be boosted with more health (to counter no shield and use of ASM), the extra boom-booms and missiles firing plus the crazy display of SAMs vs. enemy fighters will be worth it.
Bring in the Air Forces? Some B-1's, B-2's, B-21's, B-52's, TU-144's or what the heck the Russians have for Bombers? Just a thought. Take it or leave it.
Can the B1 carry the *Mother-of all-Bombs? Rods of God* from orbit? Russians deploy the 100 megatonne _Czar Bomba?_
Flights of Strategic bombers would have been a good addition to this sim
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