Fun fact: if you go into C:\Windows\Fonts while having dark mode enabled, you'll get a merged state of Windows shell limbo where dark theme and light theme are mixed together and completely broken.
@@lukeb7954 what would you do if you were at the frozen yogurt shop and a grandma walked in and barged in front of you and took all the toppings you wanted.
@@ryanjohnson4565 I would run to their house, log into their computer, visit the broken fonts folder, then tell them they need to buy a new pc because it's "broken"
It's not really broken. The fonts are part of the control panel and the control panel is always light mode. So it's showing the dark mode window but the control panel part is light as always.
@danimalforlife it's pretty unfinished though. If you open/maximize Explorer you can see the light theme hiding behind the dark. You can tell they didn't implement it very well
Bet that middle one is a "flexible spacer" control, which on left-aligned toolbars pushes everything after it to the far right. So those 3 items make up the contents of that extra menu bar that starts with organize. Like the separator control in the menu, it "does" nothing; it's just a visual thing. Edit: shoutout DOpus gang! :)
And now we can start to see why it’s been so difficult for them to update file explorer,, because it’s so deeply integrated into so many other programs we don’t think are related
Windows explorer (or "file explorer") not only lets you browse your files, but also manages your desktop and task bar. Basically any windows program that wants to show a UI for saving or opening a file will interact with it in some way. Though it running control panel is odd. But also thanks MS DOS (where writing to a particular file would print among other things, not all that different from modern Linux tbh)
@@ericwildfongit'is even more wild than that. It's a lot less now, but in the Olden days of windows, basically everything was managed by explorer. In fact, even internet explorer itself was largely integrated into the normal explorer. (Which is also why they could have web pages as desktop backgrounds at some point). In other words, historically, everything related to windows used to be extremely intertwined.
@@celdaemon Cant say I'm really all that surprised given where windows came from. Also kind of maybe explains where the name IE came from. That's cool to know, thanks
More like they're all Win2000 in cosplay. The folder structure underneath is still the same. Most folders you see, the system and special folders, are just hardlinks to the now hidden legacy folders. 'ProgramData' for example is a hardlink to the old 'Documents and Settings' folder. The old system menus are all still there as well, which is why you can bring them back with registry tweaks. The new Win versions just pull the existing elements into new layouts with new icon sets. If they did away with the pre-Vista backwards compatibility for software, they could clean up so much. But those things don't cost performance, it's just really messy under the hood, so the just leave it as is.
@@Blood-PawWerewolf Also, the ODBC data sources (32-bit) has a file browser that predates XP - ODBC Data Sources (32-bit) => Add => any driver that needs a file => untick "Use Current Directory", then "Select Directory"
@@protator Every new modern version of Windows is based on Windows NT 3.1 including all mistakes, but there are even parts that goes back to Windows 95. However the design with "flat" windows lacking the 3D borders is like going back to Windows 2.x, but less intuitive.
I am a software developer, and although the last actual Windows App that I worked on was for Windows XP, I'd have to say turning the Windows Registry into explorer windows or shortcuts seems like a rather odd thing to do. Most windows programs have resources: icons, images, even scriptlets or commandlets, that may be put into the Windows Registry so they can be shared between apps if you know the CLSID for it. Most of these commandlets have icons associated with them, that you can use in your graphical user interface (GUI), perhaps as menu items, to perform specific common operations that can be reused, not having to keep reinventing the wheel. I'll admit that I haven't actually used this particular mechanism in precisely this way. We were using Microsoft Foundation Classes (MFC), an early object oriented C-Language extension (shortly before C++ really took off). MFC may have internally used something like this to implement their toolkit. I'm just speculating here, having been working on things outside of the Windows development loop for about 20 years.
1:58 that bar is normal. its a Windows Vista element, and in Windows 10, 8, 8.1 and 7, if you go to that location, it will make the whole file explorer, the Vista one but with the theme of the operating system
If you go to c:\windows\downloaded program files that bar opens as well That's how I lock the toolbar to hide the horizontal line in explorer (Sometimes it's not locked by default when you get a new PC)
easiest way to add windows 7 command bar is by visiting c:\users\(username)\contacts. for some reason on windows 8 to 10, windows 7 command bar only appears on that specific folder & if you get out from contacts folder, command bar disappeared.
I've even gotten file explorer to display a menu bar, but it requires the "Classic Explorer" component of Open Shell, to make it appear, all you have to do is enable the Classic Explorer Bar and toggle "show hidden files" it doesn't matter if it's on or off just toggle it and you get a menu bar.
This is what happens when you build an operating system on the skeleton of something from 25 years ago. Which is how every popular operating system is built, but still.
Pretty much all the other options are way more modular. There's no explorer shell infecting the rest of the competitors even if their DEs may have their own issues
Can't the same be said for both Linux and Mac? Nothing wrong with old code that works. Half-Lif: Alyx has code from DOOM and John Carmack never even worked for VALVe.
@@epicredhead13 Actually, this seems less like cruft built up from long ago and more like adopting the very successful Unix style philosophy of using the file and folder abstractions as widely as possible. Cruft would be having multiple different kinds of abstractions but being able to use a folder abstraction here is great.
That bar is from Windows vista/7 and is called the command bar. It is keept in there for compatibility reasons. I prefer to use it and you can set it as default using oldnewexplorer or explorer patcher.
What you are actually playing around in is the user-mode filesystem namespace. This is the virtual desktop (GUI directory structure). It exist just above My_Computer. Next to it is the kernel mode directory structure (aka the real hardware). Class_ID is the name of the programming library module that allows computer programmers to make use of most of the available windows features. Yes Windows is mostly a computer programming library and resource library. The Windows OS actual is only about a few megabytes in size. These folder structures and library resources are designed for computer administrators and Software developers and are hidden from the user for the same reason that your user mode desktop and filesystem is fake, and that is to stop users from messing up the system :)
I noticed that that "organize"-bar is not just the "open/save" UI, but is actually the main Windows Explorer toolbar for Windows 7 (and perhaps Vista). It's just Windows 8, Windows 10 and Windows 11 never bothered to actually update the open and save dialogue UI's (other than the skins) from Windows 7.
The "bar" that appears is a remaining from Windows Vista/7 and sometimes appears in some folders And the "windows 10 mode" is also just Microsoft being lazy and adding windows 11 ui on windows 10. By opening it from Windows tools the computer doesn't replace it by windows 11 ui
I noticed a lot of articles about Super God Mode appearing in tech blogs and news sites after your video, so that gives me additional confidence in the information you post!
4:12 That's probably the divider. You know how the icons are either on the far left or far right? That divider is the reason, other wise they'd be all on the left or all on the right. Literally just a flexibly sized space character pretty much.
I'm glad that you do all the curiosity things with Windows that I'm too lazy to do myself! You are a valuable resource for me, and I'm trying really hard not to be a sycophant when I say this!
The bar which has the "Organize" dropdown can be seen in multiple folders across Windows. The folders (that I know) are: 1. %USERPROFILE%\Contacts 2. %WINDIR%\Downloaded Program Files 3. %WINDIR%\Fonts (this one literally turns the window into a Control Panel-like window but has the "Organize" dropdown) 4. %WINDIR%\Offline Web Pages The bar is a remnant of Windows Vista and Windows 7.
6:02 you can probably do this naiively by creating a directory junction (using mklink /j) to create a path to the root drive inside a folder you can link to with a class id. or maybe you can put the class id to whatever the "My Computer" folder thing is
btw these are both of the shortcuts (5:45) explorer shell:::{26EE0668-A00A-44D7-9371-BEB064C98683}\5\::{374DE290-123F-4565-9164-39C4925E467B} explorer shell:::{26EE0668-A00A-44D7-9371-BEB064C98683}\5\::{D20EA4E1-3957-11D2-A40B-0C5020524153}
@thiojoe ... try and locate the "Provider Order" properties page/option which is normally located in the "Network Connections" control panel folder. Its located in a hidden menu called "Advanced Settings" Hint: Use the ALT key on the menubar and navigate
2:02 I remember that same bar appearing on a few system folders too (can't remember which one) and not going away until I close the window, just like in the video 5:03 You can open the control panel and just click on the Up to button (the up arrow on the top left)
This is what you get, when you build a new version of a os on the old one. Windows has some much code in it. It got way to much old old code from older iterations in there. They should try to rebuild
It's just for backwards compatibility, if they were to rebuild the system then they would need to take too much time to make it even worth it Also they would need to make a compatibility layer between Win32 and that new OS
If you dig deep enough you can find an interface from hecking Windows 3.1 (+3 decade old OS) in the latest version of 11. I find it really cool that there are still some unupdated remnants here and there. They really feel like easter eggs that somewhat connect between different Windows editions.
They can't even make proper replacements for all their settings windows, not that I think those are necessary in the first place, but you think they're gonna rewrite everything just to lose compatibility? Never happening.
Btw there is an another way to get access to the windows 10 explorer. And it is really easy just go into control panel and on the top where it says where you are in control panel, just click on the first little arrow and click on any directory what is there and you are in the win 10 explorer.
@@macaprasok you could try using “Startallback” which has an option where you can customise your file explorer ribbon and get the old taskbar on windows 11
One thing i noticed like as soon as windows 11 released is u can just do this with straight control panel it self, just click the top and type C:\ and there u go. I also noticed that for some reason in ur explorer, the side buttons that usually display desktop downloads etc, weren't visible, but when literally went into windows tools normally it displayed them 😭, I didn't even have to do anything, I can just click desktop from windows tools, and if u click the arrow back after going to desktop and u have dark mode on, then windows tools will be in dark mode for some reason bruh
4:57 you can do the same in windows 10, but it becomes more buggy than in the W11 version of this bug. Going to the control panel through the File explorer closes the file explorer (at least in W10)
2:00 some folder have this special bar which is most likely a leftover from Windows 7's command bar. But in typical micro$psft fashin, they never clean up after themselves and whatever they dont outright delete r change, is left there untouched forever. *Also the Save/open file windows uses this very command bar.* *FUN FACT:* The rubbish new command bar in windows 11 is actually just a override of the windows 10 ribbon. you can easily disavle it with certain tools or just by opening control panels and pressing the "parent directory/up" button.
try finding the oldest version of file explorer in windows 11. I know you can go as far back as windows 98 maybe more. But I forgot how to do it. Maybe you could discover something interesting
@@Galaxy.Windows That's wrong. Windows 7 did not have a ribbon in file explorer, it was introduced in it with Windows 8. During the development of Windows 8, specifically before Milestone 2, Windows 8 used orange icons as a placeholder for the icons of items in the ribbon.
Is it like left over code from legacy OS versions? Or for developers? Or does current versions somehow point to these older class ID's to run/open things?
I have a question that has thrown me for a loop. I know that if you try to make a Windows installation on a computer that already has a different drive with Windows installed it can mess up the boot .. but why? Because if you do just that and then you remove the initial hard drive that windows was installed first on... The second drive won't boot at all even though it has a boot sector on the hard drive. I know it's just windows being borked but what exactly in Windows goes wrong? Like if there is a boot ID for the same drive on two different boot sectors why won't it just run on either boot sector? Like I get that the first drive can't run off of the second drives boot sector because it was not there when the sector was initialized, but why does taking the first drive out mess up the second drive to be installed? Is it only added to the first boot sector? Is sector even a word anymore? Give me the boot.
I think only one drive (the first one) has an EFI boot partition, so that drive will be where the bootloader. Installing Windows onto a different disk might still have it detect the EFI partition that already exists on the first drive and just use that instead of making a new one on the second drive. ... I think. Not certain about any of this.
thats windows legacy features for you, so many of the old windows features are still on the newer version just hidden, microsoft is so scared on removing these features as some huge company somewhere still has a program that uses these legacy features.
I lost all curiosity regarding Windows after years of system malfunctions, and the time spent trying to fix them. Now, I am just thankful when my XP, 7 & 10 systems mostly work (I don't use them for any tasks involving personal or financial info). Not planning to buy any more Windows.
Is this weird folder, by chance setting up the "Windows Property System"? ( do a search) What many people don't realize is that the File Explorer displays are highly customizable... "highly" but not easily. You really do need to study the Property System Reference to understand it. I'm just Theo-rising but this looks like it might be an internal interface for that.
In some video you show us how to open the explorer on Win11 with the old ribbon menu using a special shortcut. Unfortunately I cannot find it anymore. Can anyone help me find it?
Wait can you use this to create a direct shortcut to Windows 10 This PC? So far, when I put in the CLSID for This PC, the shortcut goes to Downloads, Documents, or Computer Management.
Windows Control Panel is being phased out in favor of the Settings App so in the future you will not be able to get the Windows 10 explorer/file explorer in Windows 11. You will only have the Windows 11 file explorer and only be able to use the Windows 11 file explorer. (Assuming the control panel is phased out as said by Microsoft).
@@walkingradiance9556 no its reskinned windows 10 which is reskinned Windows 8.1 which is reskinned Windows 8 which is reskinned Windows 7 which is reskinned Windows Vista which is reskinned Windows XP and so on
• Windows proper consist of at least 2 layers of glass built as a chamber that is filled with inert gas mixture that reduce heat transfer (gain/loss). • Windows with 3 layers are considered very energy-saving/efficient. • Windows with 4 layers are almost becoming a standard thing these days in Scandinavian regions of Europe. Yet, we still call them "windows". :P
Joe , I accidentally deleted the recovery partition in my Windows11 using Diskpart. Now I'm stuck with GRUB Minimal and Windows isn't booting. I tried manually selecting Windows Boot Manager & and all other solutions in YT videos. Can you please provide a solution?
Create a bootable USB installation and access CMD using the "Repair this PC" option then try every command online, one of them should work for sure. You'll probably have to reinstall Grub afterwards.
When others go over AI ML thing and keep explaining the same thing with different thumbnails which is not so important you are very different. You're indeed a great example as there is something new to learn from things we taught we knew everything about it.
Dear UI Designers, THE THREE DOTS AND THREE/FOUR LINES THING DON'T MEAN /ANYTHING/. People call it "three dots" or "the hamburger". An icon should be a SYMBOL for SOMETHING. Not mystery meat.
Fun fact: if you go into C:\Windows\Fonts while having dark mode enabled, you'll get a merged state of Windows shell limbo where dark theme and light theme are mixed together and completely broken.
@@lukeb7954 what would you do if you were at the frozen yogurt shop and a grandma walked in and barged in front of you and took all the toppings you wanted.
@@ryanjohnson4565 I would run to their house, log into their computer, visit the broken fonts folder, then tell them they need to buy a new pc because it's "broken"
@@lukeb7954 good.
It's not really broken. The fonts are part of the control panel and the control panel is always light mode. So it's showing the dark mode window but the control panel part is light as always.
@danimalforlife it's pretty unfinished though. If you open/maximize Explorer you can see the light theme hiding behind the dark. You can tell they didn't implement it very well
Bet that middle one is a "flexible spacer" control, which on left-aligned toolbars pushes everything after it to the far right. So those 3 items make up the contents of that extra menu bar that starts with organize. Like the separator control in the menu, it "does" nothing; it's just a visual thing.
Edit: shoutout DOpus gang! :)
I noticed Opus, too! Shoutout back to you! I started using it in the 90's on my Amiga.
And now we can start to see why it’s been so difficult for them to update file explorer,, because it’s so deeply integrated into so many other programs we don’t think are related
Windows explorer (or "file explorer") not only lets you browse your files, but also manages your desktop and task bar. Basically any windows program that wants to show a UI for saving or opening a file will interact with it in some way. Though it running control panel is odd. But also thanks MS DOS (where writing to a particular file would print among other things, not all that different from modern Linux tbh)
@@ericwildfongit'is even more wild than that.
It's a lot less now, but in the Olden days of windows, basically everything was managed by explorer.
In fact, even internet explorer itself was largely integrated into the normal explorer. (Which is also why they could have web pages as desktop backgrounds at some point).
In other words, historically, everything related to windows used to be extremely intertwined.
@@celdaemon Cant say I'm really all that surprised given where windows came from. Also kind of maybe explains where the name IE came from. That's cool to know, thanks
I thought I'd heard somewhere they'd completely rebuilt file explorer for win11... not the case, as I can see
File Explorer is like macOS’s Finder app
I’m convinced that every “modern” version of windows is just vista with a new coat of paint
More like they're all Win2000 in cosplay. The folder structure underneath is still the same. Most folders you see, the system and special folders, are just hardlinks to the now hidden legacy folders. 'ProgramData' for example is a hardlink to the old 'Documents and Settings' folder. The old system menus are all still there as well, which is why you can bring them back with registry tweaks. The new Win versions just pull the existing elements into new layouts with new icon sets.
If they did away with the pre-Vista backwards compatibility for software, they could clean up so much. But those things don't cost performance, it's just really messy under the hood, so the just leave it as is.
@@protatorWindows NT (pre 2000/Me). There’s a program (phone dialer?) that still looks like it’s 16-bit Windows 9x/3.1 counterpart, icon and all.
and in the sys32 folder i found some old programs that cant run on windows 10.@@Blood-PawWerewolf
@@Blood-PawWerewolf Also, the ODBC data sources (32-bit) has a file browser that predates XP - ODBC Data Sources (32-bit) => Add => any driver that needs a file => untick "Use Current Directory", then "Select Directory"
@@protator Every new modern version of Windows is based on Windows NT 3.1 including all mistakes, but there are even parts that goes back to Windows 95.
However the design with "flat" windows lacking the 3D borders is like going back to Windows 2.x, but less intuitive.
2:45
From my own testing, if you actually open this in a new tab instead, the icons will actually show and you can invoke some of them
Yup. Blue on left toggles the lefthand nav. bar, Blue on right toggles file preview, blue on right with white lines toggles item information.
I am a software developer, and although the last actual Windows App that I worked on was for Windows XP, I'd have to say turning the Windows Registry into explorer windows or shortcuts seems like a rather odd thing to do. Most windows programs have resources: icons, images, even scriptlets or commandlets, that may be put into the Windows Registry so they can be shared between apps if you know the CLSID for it. Most of these commandlets have icons associated with them, that you can use in your graphical user interface (GUI), perhaps as menu items, to perform specific common operations that can be reused, not having to keep reinventing the wheel. I'll admit that I haven't actually used this particular mechanism in precisely this way. We were using Microsoft Foundation Classes (MFC), an early object oriented C-Language extension (shortly before C++ really took off). MFC may have internally used something like this to implement their toolkit. I'm just speculating here, having been working on things outside of the Windows development loop for about 20 years.
1:58 that bar is normal. its a Windows Vista element, and in Windows 10, 8, 8.1 and 7, if you go to that location, it will make the whole file explorer, the Vista one but with the theme of the operating system
Crazy how Thio didn't know that lmao. Also, you can just enable the Vista/7 command bar, or the Windows 8/10 Ribbon UI with Explorer patcher.
If you go to c:\windows\downloaded program files that bar opens as well
That's how I lock the toolbar to hide the horizontal line in explorer
(Sometimes it's not locked by default when you get a new PC)
easiest way to add windows 7 command bar is by visiting c:\users\(username)\contacts. for some reason on windows 8 to 10, windows 7 command bar only appears on that specific folder & if you get out from contacts folder, command bar disappeared.
@@FlushDesert22 Can confirm, I am using ExplorerPatcher and have it set to Windows 7 Command
I've even gotten file explorer to display a menu bar, but it requires the "Classic Explorer" component of Open Shell, to make it appear, all you have to do is enable the Classic Explorer Bar and toggle "show hidden files" it doesn't matter if it's on or off just toggle it and you get a menu bar.
This is what happens when you build an operating system on the skeleton of something from 25 years ago. Which is how every popular operating system is built, but still.
What would you prefer, no apps prior to 2015 can run because there's no compatibility?
Pretty much all the other options are way more modular. There's no explorer shell infecting the rest of the competitors even if their DEs may have their own issues
Can't the same be said for both Linux and Mac?
Nothing wrong with old code that works. Half-Lif: Alyx has code from DOOM and John Carmack never even worked for VALVe.
@@MichaelChin1994 yep. Like I said that is how every popular operating system is built.
@@epicredhead13 Actually, this seems less like cruft built up from long ago and more like adopting the very successful Unix style philosophy of using the file and folder abstractions as widely as possible.
Cruft would be having multiple different kinds of abstractions but being able to use a folder abstraction here is great.
That bar is from Windows vista/7 and is called the command bar. It is keept in there for compatibility reasons. I prefer to use it and you can set it as default using oldnewexplorer or explorer patcher.
What you are actually playing around in is the user-mode filesystem namespace. This is the virtual desktop (GUI directory structure). It exist just above My_Computer. Next to it is the kernel mode directory structure (aka the real hardware).
Class_ID is the name of the programming library module that allows computer programmers to make use of most of the available windows features. Yes Windows is mostly a computer programming library and resource library. The Windows OS actual is only about a few megabytes in size.
These folder structures and library resources are designed for computer administrators and Software developers and are hidden from the user for the same reason that your user mode desktop and filesystem is fake, and that is to stop users from messing up the system :)
I noticed that that "organize"-bar is not just the "open/save" UI, but is actually the main Windows Explorer toolbar for Windows 7 (and perhaps Vista). It's just Windows 8, Windows 10 and Windows 11 never bothered to actually update the open and save dialogue UI's (other than the skins) from Windows 7.
The "bar" that appears is a remaining from Windows Vista/7 and sometimes appears in some folders
And the "windows 10 mode" is also just Microsoft being lazy and adding windows 11 ui on windows 10. By opening it from Windows tools the computer doesn't replace it by windows 11 ui
Is it possible that Explorer doesn't load the Windows 11 UI because Control Panel only loads a subset of extensions?
Probably they did this not because they are "lazy" there is probably important things only working with windows 10 version and/or compatibility.
I noticed a lot of articles about Super God Mode appearing in tech blogs and news sites after your video, so that gives me additional confidence in the information you post!
4:12 That's probably the divider. You know how the icons are either on the far left or far right? That divider is the reason, other wise they'd be all on the left or all on the right. Literally just a flexibly sized space character pretty much.
05:48 "Contol Panel/System and Security/Downloads" is an unfathomably cursed folder path lmao
The deeper you dig into windows, the weirder it gets... 🤔
Scully tells you to knock yourself out.
Mulder is convinced that deep in Windows is the DNA of the smoker man.
X Files Theme...
That's true for everything
Like AI hallucinations...
Some programmer at Microsoft is getting really nervous right now and will have to explain all of this Monday morning.
Hidden in plain-sight isn't really an obfuscation. No explanation needed.
this has been the state of explorer ever since windows 8, it's been 12 years
Pajeet code
YES!! I couldn't figure out how to make a shortcut to open Control Panel to a path. The class ID for Downloads is perfect! Thank you!!!
I'm glad that you do all the curiosity things with Windows that I'm too lazy to do myself! You are a valuable resource for me, and I'm trying really hard not to be a sycophant when I say this!
The bar which has the "Organize" dropdown can be seen in multiple folders across Windows. The folders (that I know) are:
1. %USERPROFILE%\Contacts
2. %WINDIR%\Downloaded Program Files
3. %WINDIR%\Fonts (this one literally turns the window into a Control Panel-like window but has the "Organize" dropdown)
4. %WINDIR%\Offline Web Pages
The bar is a remnant of Windows Vista and Windows 7.
6:02 you can probably do this naiively by creating a directory junction (using mklink /j) to create a path to the root drive inside a folder you can link to with a class id. or maybe you can put the class id to whatever the "My Computer" folder thing is
3:25 It's the Windows 7 Explorer UI
Yeah, I noticed that ribbon in this video. Because I use OldNewExplorer, and I use that ribbon instead of the Windows 10 ribbon.
btw these are both of the shortcuts (5:45)
explorer shell:::{26EE0668-A00A-44D7-9371-BEB064C98683}\5\::{374DE290-123F-4565-9164-39C4925E467B}
explorer shell:::{26EE0668-A00A-44D7-9371-BEB064C98683}\5\::{D20EA4E1-3957-11D2-A40B-0C5020524153}
Another interesting video. Thanks Joe
@thiojoe ... try and locate the "Provider Order" properties page/option which is normally located in the "Network Connections" control panel folder. Its located in a hidden menu called "Advanced Settings" Hint: Use the ALT key on the menubar and navigate
2:02 I remember that same bar appearing on a few system folders too (can't remember which one) and not going away until I close the window, just like in the video
5:03 You can open the control panel and just click on the Up to button (the up arrow on the top left)
This is what you get, when you build a new version of a os on the old one. Windows has some much code in it. It got way to much old old code from older iterations in there. They should try to rebuild
It's spaghetti code, and I bet the devs are like "If it works, it works..."
It's just for backwards compatibility, if they were to rebuild the system then they would need to take too much time to make it even worth it
Also they would need to make a compatibility layer between Win32 and that new OS
If you dig deep enough you can find an interface from hecking Windows 3.1 (+3 decade old OS) in the latest version of 11.
I find it really cool that there are still some unupdated remnants here and there. They really feel like easter eggs that somewhat connect between different Windows editions.
They can't even make proper replacements for all their settings windows, not that I think those are necessary in the first place, but you think they're gonna rewrite everything just to lose compatibility? Never happening.
@@SamNaz065 how can i find that?
Thank You I was exploring this folder and I could figure out what else I could do to investigate. I like videos like this...
Btw there is an another way to get access to the windows 10 explorer. And it is really easy just go into control panel and on the top where it says where you are in control panel, just click on the first little arrow and click on any directory what is there and you are in the win 10 explorer.
@@macaprasok you could try using “Startallback” which has an option where you can customise your file explorer ribbon and get the old taskbar on windows 11
Go to the nearest store and get a baguette and post a video about it please 🙏 😭😭😭
He liked this. I hope he actually does it.
Seconded!
I actually miss those ThioJoe vids. I remember when he actually bought a bulls**t and made a review video about it. Fun days ❤
Baguette. God they're good.
One thing i noticed like as soon as windows 11 released is u can just do this with straight control panel it self, just click the top and type C:\ and there u go.
I also noticed that for some reason in ur explorer, the side buttons that usually display desktop downloads etc, weren't visible, but when literally went into windows tools normally it displayed them 😭, I didn't even have to do anything, I can just click desktop from windows tools, and if u click the arrow back after going to desktop and u have dark mode on, then windows tools will be in dark mode for some reason bruh
Please make a video explaining all explorer modes
I vaguely remember seeing a CLSID in regular file explorer... I think it might've been the recycle bin.
ThioJoe's Bizzare Windows Folder
Hello, happy to see new vid!
2:57 Am programmer, yes that mysterious 5th option represents the context menu item separator.
Thanks for this vid now I know what it is. I smashed like and I’m subbed to your channel!❤
Maybe we can change the file explorer menus if we add options to that folder?
No, Unless you want to re-write the Windows programming libraries :)
Dang, Joe just poking around the system like I would with my parents phone when I was like 12 but on a whole other level 😂
4:57 you can do the same in windows 10, but it becomes more buggy than in the W11 version of this bug. Going to the control panel through the File explorer closes the file explorer (at least in W10)
Are tricks like opening downloads via control panel the way classicshell could return Explorer features from seven to current Explorer?
you probably found some programs save menu dialogs menu virtualized in explorer
OMG I love how you made that script and used it to find even more interesting useless things in Windows.
Joe, can you tell me what phone do you use?
Is it like the dll files that contain icons?.
shell32.dll
These are software programming libraries which makes up the bulk of a computer operating system.
@@axle.student I know.
@@TechGorilla1987 ...
you can copy from here;
shell:::{437ff9c0-a07f-4fa0-af80-84b6c6440a16}
Im wondering if you can customize that menu throught the registry ?
Does this mean that you can re-arrange the buttons and menus in Windows Explorer by changing those registry entries?
Great info, as always
What info?
What happens when you try to delete the files via admin? Will you just lose the options?
I suggest you delete your Windows OS kernel file first. It will save you a lot of headaches later :)
@@axle.student did you mean "later"? also, windows can recover from that, its just replace it on startup
@@ItsCOMMANDer_ Yes I was being cynical :)
"Oh look, I found some weird OS files, lets delete them"
Me: Face palm lol
2:00 some folder have this special bar which is most likely a leftover from Windows 7's command bar. But in typical micro$psft fashin, they never clean up after themselves and whatever they dont outright delete r change, is left there untouched forever.
*Also the Save/open file windows uses this very command bar.*
*FUN FACT:* The rubbish new command bar in windows 11 is actually just a override of the windows 10 ribbon. you can easily disavle it with certain tools or just by opening control panels and pressing the "parent directory/up" button.
try finding the oldest version of file explorer in windows 11. I know you can go as far back as windows 98 maybe more. But I forgot how to do it. Maybe you could discover something interesting
cool video, thanks!!
Fun Fact: the orgnise menu (2:25) is from windows vista and 7 😊
didnt 7 had the Ribbon interface with orange circles.
@@Galaxy.Windows You are talking about Windows 8 Milestone 1 and 2, bro.
@@random_person618 no. i talk about Windows 7. Windows 8 M1 and M2 had icons instead of Orange circles
@@Galaxy.Windows That's wrong. Windows 7 did not have a ribbon in file explorer, it was introduced in it with Windows 8. During the development of Windows 8, specifically before Milestone 2, Windows 8 used orange icons as a placeholder for the icons of items in the ribbon.
Is it like left over code from legacy OS versions? Or for developers? Or does current versions somehow point to these older class ID's to run/open things?
its because the ribbon is just a GUI on top of the Vista file explorer. just like Android GUIs
The middle one is probably the "flexible spacer" that makes the rest of the icons on the top bar to be pushed to the right side…
My guess is that that middle icon is a separator entry, that forces anything after it to the right side.
Hi Thio, could you suggest me a website to check unicode characters? You might have a personal go-to for the features and I'd like to enjoy those too
Actually yes I like this page for that 🧐
apps.timwhitlock.info/unicode/inspect
It makes me wonder what else is yet to be discovered in Windows, and how far back they go.
AI did a fantastic job from your description.
I have a question that has thrown me for a loop.
I know that if you try to make a Windows installation on a computer that already has a different drive with Windows installed it can mess up the boot .. but why? Because if you do just that and then you remove the initial hard drive that windows was installed first on... The second drive won't boot at all even though it has a boot sector on the hard drive.
I know it's just windows being borked but what exactly in Windows goes wrong? Like if there is a boot ID for the same drive on two different boot sectors why won't it just run on either boot sector? Like I get that the first drive can't run off of the second drives boot sector because it was not there when the sector was initialized, but why does taking the first drive out mess up the second drive to be installed? Is it only added to the first boot sector?
Is sector even a word anymore?
Give me the boot.
I think only one drive (the first one) has an EFI boot partition, so that drive will be where the bootloader. Installing Windows onto a different disk might still have it detect the EFI partition that already exists on the first drive and just use that instead of making a new one on the second drive.
... I think. Not certain about any of this.
Fun fact: the 3-page icon you mentioned at least twice is actually 4 pages. :p
thats windows legacy features for you, so many of the old windows features are still on the newer version just hidden, microsoft is so scared on removing these features as some huge company somewhere still has a program that uses these legacy features.
I lost all curiosity regarding Windows after years of system malfunctions, and the time spent trying to fix them. Now, I am just thankful when my XP, 7 & 10 systems mostly work (I don't use them for any tasks involving personal or financial info). Not planning to buy any more Windows.
Thank you for using my suggestion
Part of the restructure of Windows as it evolves. Consolidate/nest class calls in the file system.
The bar is the same one as in Windows 7 Explorer, right?
yes
this feels like some cryptic puzzle game or arg
Amazing Video!!!!!!!!
We need a thio and davesgarage collab
Is this weird folder, by chance setting up the "Windows Property System"? ( do a search)
What many people don't realize is that the File Explorer displays are highly customizable... "highly" but not easily. You really do need to study the Property System Reference to understand it.
I'm just Theo-rising but this looks like it might be an internal interface for that.
In some video you show us how to open the explorer on Win11 with the old ribbon menu using a special shortcut. Unfortunately I cannot find it anymore. Can anyone help me find it?
It's like running the CMD copy command without any parameters, so it does nothing
You should do a video on the secrets of MS Paint, (if any).
Push "print screen" at any time and it will take a screen shot, that you can paste into paint.
The middle one is probably a flex divider.
1:40 Whatever happened to no page left behind Q.Q
"Again, I'm just kind of making a theory..."
* hypothesis
Wait can you use this to create a direct shortcut to Windows 10 This PC? So far, when I put in the CLSID for This PC, the shortcut goes to Downloads, Documents, or Computer Management.
Nice Video!
So I wonder if apps like StartAllBack use this tool to modify Windows Explorer
Windows Control Panel is being phased out in favor of the Settings App so in the future you will not be able to get the Windows 10 explorer/file explorer in Windows 11. You will only have the Windows 11 file explorer and only be able to use the Windows 11 file explorer. (Assuming the control panel is phased out as said by Microsoft).
Windows 11 doesnt exist
@@Galaxy.Windows Yes it does.
@@walkingradiance9556 Control Panel is superiour to Settings
@@walkingradiance9556 no its reskinned windows 10 which is reskinned Windows 8.1 which is reskinned Windows 8 which is reskinned Windows 7 which is reskinned Windows Vista which is reskinned Windows XP and so on
Can you try to invoke the 5th?
7:24 Henry Cavill playing Warhammer Online
even funnier as well is all the parts of the new homepage afaik are different clsids
Does Bill Gates know about this?
What I worry a little about is if this would be a new avenue into possible malware intrusions.
Ok, what if you add more buttons? I’m not skilled enough to do this, so maybe *you* can?
Interesting stuff.
Ha, oddly interesting; thanks!
They should just call it Microsoft Layers .. instead of windows. Because that's what it is now; layers of new OS's over the old ones
• Windows proper consist of at least 2 layers of glass built as a chamber that is filled with inert gas mixture that reduce heat transfer (gain/loss).
• Windows with 3 layers are considered very energy-saving/efficient.
• Windows with 4 layers are almost becoming a standard thing these days in Scandinavian regions of Europe.
Yet, we still call them "windows". :P
@@cbs1710 I've built houses and metal buildings, running my own crew for over a decade. lol.. You're preaching to the choir
@@calholli Yes... and Windows is still Windows. :)
Why does this seem like this kind of system is inherently vulnerable to malware or hacking?
That's why Windows requires tools that protect your system. You could indeed write better solutions, but that's not what MS likes to do.
The file structure is hidden with permission restrictions for a reason.
If users want to open the doors to hackers, that's there own fault :)
Wonder if there are some hidden files there.
Isn't that organize bar from like Windows Vista and Windows 7 and I already knew about that ribbon Windows 10 style file explorer already lol
flytech has a video on this
I hope there's an actual big giant thumbs up on your channel 🙂
Joe , I accidentally deleted the recovery partition in my Windows11 using Diskpart. Now I'm stuck with GRUB Minimal and Windows isn't booting. I tried manually selecting Windows Boot Manager & and all other solutions in YT videos.
Can you please provide a solution?
Create a bootable USB installation and access CMD using the "Repair this PC" option then try every command online, one of them should work for sure.
You'll probably have to reinstall Grub afterwards.
@@SamNaz065 But , I don't have secondary pc to create a bootable usb.
@@sleepingivyou could do it for cheap at an internet cafe or at a friend's/relative's house.
@@sleepingiv then how are you posting this comment? your phone? that's technically a computer! just download the files manually and put them on a usb
@@ZeWeshman Just copying the file to the usb wont work. Its a whole diff process thats why a pc is needed.
When others go over AI ML thing and keep explaining the same thing with different thumbnails which is not so important you are very different. You're indeed a great example as there is something new to learn from things we taught we knew everything about it.
At this point he's just become a treasure hunter
Dear UI Designers,
THE THREE DOTS AND THREE/FOUR LINES THING DON'T MEAN /ANYTHING/.
People call it "three dots" or "the hamburger".
An icon should be a SYMBOL for SOMETHING. Not mystery meat.
It is a symbol! It stands for "we didn't want to show you all the options available, so they're hidden here"
Jokes on you I knew it, because of your older CLSID video
a mosquito made me subscribe (not even joking)