there was bias.... first off they literally say in the show "you thought Europe was the hilt of civilisation" insinuating its not and that japan is, all the while in the same episode they boil a man alive for being a foreigner.... very civilised, also they are literally at a bronze age level of technology and somehow this civilisation is better than Europe which literally is the reason there was even a bronze age, there is plenty of bullshit propaganda and poor writing in this show the difference is that its slightly better and less shoved down your throat every other second compared to most modern media, so your standards are low because everything is shit, so when a mediocre show like shogun comes out its "omg its so good no propaganda just true cinema" but nah its just shite but a bit better than most of the stuff you watch normally, heighten your standards frfr.
@@birdsrcoolxc34I’m not sure I understand. My confusion could easily just be a misunderstanding, but I didn’t see in your comment anything that would actually represent bias. Just very different characters from very different cultures. If the Japanese characters believe their society is better, that means the *characters* are biased. Which of course they would be. Or if you were saying the show is biased *against* Japan simply by depicting wildly different tech levels, that’s just historical accuracy.
Real diverstity would be stories set in different countries about interesting periods in their history, like Shogun. Shows about China's Three Kingdoms, the Mughals in India or Mansa Musa would be incredible. Unfortunately Hollywood seems to have contempt for the rich history of other countries and would rather just cast a black guy from south London as as Napolean instead.
It's difficult to make historical settings and with so many non-Westerners in the roles, actually. It's easier to make European historical settings. But with Blacks put in top roles, of course. Shakespeare's Much Ado About Nothing - the king is turned into a Black. Hamlet - the DANISH COURT is full of Blacks. Othello - he is made Black, even though he was a Moor, but since history is hidden from Americans they think "anyone who lived in Africa must be Black." Every TV show in ancient Greece or movie in Persia - insert Blacks. "That's close to Africa!"
Remember the 90s when Disney actually did this? Lilo and Stitch, Aladin, Emperor's New Groove, even The Lion King. As a kid I found it really cool how we get stories set in different parts of the world and explore their cultures. I guess disney itself fucking missed that though.
I have the novel in my bookshelf. I got it from my grandfather, it was printed in 1984. I have the 1980s Shogun series in DVD form, and I have read Clavell's other novels. I really recommend Tai-Pan and Noble House, both set in Hong Kong and centered around the same trading house but generations apart.
I am utterly spellbound by this show. Incredible characters and scripts. Real sets, props and locations. Excellent music, pacing and sound design. Wonderful vistas, costumes and effects. A gripping, engaging, fantastic tale. The Chernobyl of 2024, far as I'm concerned.
Good post And to piggy back on it, I was really enjoyed the eye movement and facial expressions. Saying so much without saying a word On another note, have you watched "The Investigation" on HBO?
The real life story of William Adams AKA "Miura Anjin", the guy on which Blackthorne is based on, is even more crazy than " Shogun ". He is still today a highly regarded historical figure in Japan. And most other characters are also based on real life historical people.
asano is one of my favorite actors since i saw him in "ichi the killer" "electric dragon 80000 volts" and "Survive Style 5+". in Shogun, his portrayal of Yabushige is outstanding: he steals every single scene he's in.
With him being shell-shocked from the evil White general fighting the Indians. But of course you don't see that Indians had lots of slaves until Whites forced them to stop - for millennia they took other Indians as slaves and killed off rival tribes. They had Whites as slaves and Blacks as slaves - thousands of Black slaves on the "trail of tears," and some shipped ahead. Ah, but it's Whites who are bad. And in Japan, THE ENEMY is the White American, who wants to sign a treaty with Japan. Tom Cruise is only good because he turns against his own race. The big victory in the final scene is that the Japanese won't sign a treaty with the Whites, and thus they retain their good character or something. Yeah, great example.
Shōgun is definitely the best show this year and the best samurai show ever made to date, but it’s only possible due to the Hollywood-Japan collaboration and the heavy influence of Hiroyuki Sanada as a producer. Past Hollywood attempts at samurai have mostly failed due to lack of understanding the Japanese culture and Japanese samurai shows don’t succeed beyond Japan due to their unique/boring Japanese pacing. The lack of “the final battle” actually showcases Toranaga’s brilliance ever more, knowing that he has won without showing the battle and his secret heart of becoming a Shōgun never shown on screen is just perfect with his personality. With how some racists saying this show lacks black characters and resorting to making a black samurai show, I think this show is going to be a one off.
Compared to the hog-swill produced today, it was indeed a breath of fresh air. However, compared to the 1984 original mini-series, it fell short on two major points: it turned Torenaga cruel and sociopathic; and it turned Blackthorn stupid and unable to learn or adapt. All in order to make Mariko the main character of the story.
I haven't seen this Netflix version; too bad if they changed the characters that way. I am looking at the DVD collection of the original Shogun on my desk right now, and I have my grandfather's Shogun novel in my bookshelf, printed in 1984. I also recommend the equally good novels Tai-Pan and Noble House, also by James Clavell. No one writes realistic personalities, and intrigues, like he did.
For starters, I'm hooked. The plot, the costumes, the backdrop and last but not least Hiroyuki Sanada and his intense wanting. Highly rated and recommended. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼
I loved it. I didn’t mind the ending either. I mean, that was the plan he was slowly coordinating since the first episode: Use the bureaucrats’ rules against them and systematically defeat each regent without marching an army into Osaka. When they raise their sword to strike you, they won’t even notice you’ve already cut off their arm.
Hey Reaper , another great review , I laughed out loud while watching the reviews for Velma and the other movies and shows that you say are quote “ dog shit , wrapped in cat shit “ 😂 keep them coming !!
After watching some of the latest shows like Night Country, The Witcher and Rings of Power I had all but lost faith in the entertainment industry, then the masterpiece that is Shogun came along and gave me an inkling of hope.
This show felt like breath of much needed fresh air after being for so long in a misma of shii with all the terrible shows and movies that are being made nowadays.
Just ten, anyone else remembers Tv's hay days? When shows ranged from 13 to 26 episodes per season(for whipper snappers/kids reading, this is true)! Honestly, seriously missing them. Write me!
This is how you write strong female characters. Fuji’s story arc on grief is perfect. Toranaga sending Mariko to disrupt alliance relationships and achieve what an army can’t is badass. Also Yabushige’s constant will changing is very funny XD
Mariko facing off agaisnt the guards was perfect. She only managed to slightly injure one, but the context meant it felt more earned and real than if she killed all of them with bossbitch mode.
One of the best series made in the past decade! I’ve read the book, saw the old version and this takes the cake! Acting, cinematography, editing, writing, costumes, everything was incredible!
For anyone looking to see a further development of the story, I recommend Sekigahara, a Japanese film depicting the eponymous battle. Bare in mind that the historical figures in Shogun have altered names and Sekigahara uses the real ones. Visit the Shogun Wikipedia page to know who's who.
I grew up watching the Shogun series from the 80's and have been more or less "it needs to absolute blow everyone away if I want to watch something I've already seen, or worse, it sucks so much I would leave it with a bad taste in my mouth and yet another remake sucks ass." But everyone, including Reaper seems to love it, so I think I will dare watching this!
Hiro Sanada acted in Japanese Historical Dramas so he knows what he needed to do in Shogun as a producer. Casting Fumi Nikaido as Lady Ochiba is a good choice as she portrayed the actual historical counterpart of Lady Ochiba herself, Lady Yodo.
Velma Season 2 and Tales of the Empire I know are terrible, Hoping you do one of them soon however you are going to have to watch Clone Wars to even know one of the characters in Tales of the Empire.
It's anti-climatic because history itself wasn't a movie. There was alot of politicking and moves not related to war at all. Toronaga(Leyasu) already basically predicted how the battle would play out anyways, the finale essentially was foreshadowing the reality of the outcome. Now that it's confirmed we're getting a season 2, we can finally see what the producers wanted out of that battle.
3:14 Regarding this, I strongly recommend James Clavell's fantastic novels, if you want to see "strong female characters" that are strong in a real feminine way, not a false feminist way. Especially Shogun, the equally good Tai-Pan, and Noble House. You will love these novels. They are fantastic. Regarding Shogun, the original mini series is what made old Japanese culture so popular in the West - the buildings, the kimonos, samurai, Zen Buddhism, the swords, bushido, and so on.
I've really only heard good things about the show. From the people I follow, to journos seething about the lack of diversity. I'll be sure to watch it.
Finally, a Reaper video that doesn't end with “it was a piece of shit!” 😂
Finally? This is his 3rd video doing that.
@@grandarkfang_1482 3rd? There were a lot more!
@@krystofthepolishguytalksan310 a lot more? who cares GO WATCH SHOGUN (again)
@@samg8939 Yeah I probably should
We need one of Matt Berry from IT Crowd shouting, "YES!"
Really loved that show. Unbiased, focused, faithful. It's good to see we can still have hope for good shows in 2024
There was a beauty and a stark brutality of Japan in the show. It mesmerised and terrified me in equal measures. Such an incredible show.
there was bias.... first off they literally say in the show "you thought Europe was the hilt of civilisation" insinuating its not and that japan is, all the while in the same episode they boil a man alive for being a foreigner.... very civilised, also they are literally at a bronze age level of technology and somehow this civilisation is better than Europe which literally is the reason there was even a bronze age, there is plenty of bullshit propaganda and poor writing in this show the difference is that its slightly better and less shoved down your throat every other second compared to most modern media, so your standards are low because everything is shit, so when a mediocre show like shogun comes out its "omg its so good no propaganda just true cinema" but nah its just shite but a bit better than most of the stuff you watch normally, heighten your standards frfr.
@@birdsrcoolxc34I’m not sure I understand. My confusion could easily just be a misunderstanding, but I didn’t see in your comment anything that would actually represent bias. Just very different characters from very different cultures.
If the Japanese characters believe their society is better, that means the *characters* are biased. Which of course they would be. Or if you were saying the show is biased *against* Japan simply by depicting wildly different tech levels, that’s just historical accuracy.
''It -was- wasn't a piece of shit!''
Real diverstity would be stories set in different countries about interesting periods in their history, like Shogun. Shows about China's Three Kingdoms, the Mughals in India or Mansa Musa would be incredible. Unfortunately Hollywood seems to have contempt for the rich history of other countries and would rather just cast a black guy from south London as as Napolean instead.
Good thing it wasnt mainstream enough, or you would have gotten the typical banshee screeching about where are the people of color and alphabets.
It's difficult to make historical settings and with so many non-Westerners in the roles, actually. It's easier to make European historical settings. But with Blacks put in top roles, of course. Shakespeare's Much Ado About Nothing - the king is turned into a Black. Hamlet - the DANISH COURT is full of Blacks. Othello - he is made Black, even though he was a Moor, but since history is hidden from Americans they think "anyone who lived in Africa must be Black." Every TV show in ancient Greece or movie in Persia - insert Blacks. "That's close to Africa!"
@@Grasslander vile and despicable.
Remember the 90s when Disney actually did this? Lilo and Stitch, Aladin, Emperor's New Groove, even The Lion King. As a kid I found it really cool how we get stories set in different parts of the world and explore their cultures. I guess disney itself fucking missed that though.
Mughals in India are REALLY overrated. Like black people, during slavery period.
Gintoki yelling "It´s the Shogun" at the end killed me🤣
The book is very long but fucking fantastic! Glad to see source material done correctly
I have the novel in my bookshelf. I got it from my grandfather, it was printed in 1984. I have the 1980s Shogun series in DVD form, and I have read Clavell's other novels. I really recommend Tai-Pan and Noble House, both set in Hong Kong and centered around the same trading house but generations apart.
@@Grasslander
I didn’t know the original miniseries was on dvd!
Wasn't done completely correctly
How?!?! Really! I watched the first twenty minutes and it’s not even close.
@@jamesstanton2012 These people just glaze anything half decent at best.
WE LOVE POSITIVITY 🔥🔥🔥
This one of the BEST shows I've ever seen.
Wish more historical drama shows were this accurate and well written. 👏
How did Disney not fuck it up? Glad it slipped by the dei monsters
HBO Rome was really historical too.
if you havent seen it already, i suggest The Terror
I am utterly spellbound by this show.
Incredible characters and scripts. Real sets, props and locations. Excellent music, pacing and sound design. Wonderful vistas, costumes and effects.
A gripping, engaging, fantastic tale. The Chernobyl of 2024, far as I'm concerned.
Good post
And to piggy back on it, I was really enjoyed the eye movement and facial expressions. Saying so much without saying a word
On another note, have you watched "The Investigation" on HBO?
@@kbo572 I too love Yabushige's grunting and eye movements haha
The real life story of William Adams AKA "Miura Anjin", the guy on which Blackthorne is based on, is even more crazy than " Shogun ".
He is still today a highly regarded historical figure in Japan.
And most other characters are also based on real life historical people.
asano is one of my favorite actors since i saw him in "ichi the killer" "electric dragon 80000 volts" and "Survive Style 5+". in Shogun, his portrayal of Yabushige is outstanding: he steals every single scene he's in.
No it's not. There's no black amputee samurais.
What funny is that Shogun got a lot right while fallout manages to fuck all that up
Shogun was flawless as an adaption. I hope it'll be used as a template in future. So good.
@@jonbaxter2254Shogun has it flaws at least it stick to the sources to the material unlike Fallout
Don't compare a filet mignon to vegan beef
You can tell how good a movie or show is by how short the Reaper vid is
"This guy hates everything"
I think not
If people like this series, the Last Samurai with Tom Cruise is another banger from the 2000s.
Similar plot as well. A foreigner learning to appreciate a different culture.
you mean japanese "dances with wolves" XD
Blue Eyed Samurai too
With him being shell-shocked from the evil White general fighting the Indians. But of course you don't see that Indians had lots of slaves until Whites forced them to stop - for millennia they took other Indians as slaves and killed off rival tribes. They had Whites as slaves and Blacks as slaves - thousands of Black slaves on the "trail of tears," and some shipped ahead. Ah, but it's Whites who are bad. And in Japan, THE ENEMY is the White American, who wants to sign a treaty with Japan. Tom Cruise is only good because he turns against his own race. The big victory in the final scene is that the Japanese won't sign a treaty with the Whites, and thus they retain their good character or something. Yeah, great example.
13 Ronins
I'll check it out now. Edited in: I'm 2 episodes in, I absolutely hate tv shows nowadays but this has been really good. Hoping it stays good.
That Gintama reference is a big suprise but a welcome one. Nice review as always Reaper !!
It will never be as good as 70s version.
hail our scouse god reaper
I didn't expect a big battle at the end, but some catharsis for blackthorn's character arc would have been nice. I feel like the ending was rushed.
Appreciate the clip from team America!
I don't think it's too early to say that Shogun is the show of the year, it's not like the competition will be any better.
I Watch the "original" shogun mini series from the 80's recently, it is well worth the watch, this one here is basically a Remasterd, i would watch it
80s is better
I cant remember watching an entire series so quickly and being excited for every episode. It is so rare these days.
Shōgun is definitely the best show this year and the best samurai show ever made to date, but it’s only possible due to the Hollywood-Japan collaboration and the heavy influence of Hiroyuki Sanada as a producer. Past Hollywood attempts at samurai have mostly failed due to lack of understanding the Japanese culture and Japanese samurai shows don’t succeed beyond Japan due to their unique/boring Japanese pacing.
The lack of “the final battle” actually showcases Toranaga’s brilliance ever more, knowing that he has won without showing the battle and his secret heart of becoming a Shōgun never shown on screen is just perfect with his personality.
With how some racists saying this show lacks black characters and resorting to making a black samurai show, I think this show is going to be a one off.
Compared to the hog-swill produced today, it was indeed a breath of fresh air.
However, compared to the 1984 original mini-series, it fell short on two major points: it turned Torenaga cruel and sociopathic; and it turned Blackthorn stupid and unable to learn or adapt. All in order to make Mariko the main character of the story.
I haven't seen this Netflix version; too bad if they changed the characters that way. I am looking at the DVD collection of the original Shogun on my desk right now, and I have my grandfather's Shogun novel in my bookshelf, printed in 1984. I also recommend the equally good novels Tai-Pan and Noble House, also by James Clavell. No one writes realistic personalities, and intrigues, like he did.
How was Blackthrone unable to learn or adapt?
@@GannohHe didn't embrace stoicism like he did in the books.
@@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845 Blackthorne was a tard in the new show.
It's woke crap but the majority won't know any better.
Fear the reaper
I def reccomend watching the 80s version as well.
The books were pretty good, glad to see the show is worth a look. 👍
Who else is hyped for the Velma season 2 rant?
For starters, I'm hooked. The plot, the costumes, the backdrop and last but not least Hiroyuki Sanada and his intense wanting. Highly rated and recommended. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼
I loved it. I didn’t mind the ending either. I mean, that was the plan he was slowly coordinating since the first episode: Use the bureaucrats’ rules against them and systematically defeat each regent without marching an army into Osaka. When they raise their sword to strike you, they won’t even notice you’ve already cut off their arm.
Hey Reaper , another great review , I laughed out loud while watching the reviews for Velma and the other movies and shows that you say are quote “ dog shit , wrapped in cat shit “ 😂 keep them coming !!
After watching some of the latest shows like Night Country, The Witcher and Rings of Power I had all but lost faith in the entertainment industry, then the masterpiece that is Shogun came along and gave me an inkling of hope.
So this time it's not dogsh*t 😳
Waiting for your Velma reviews 🙏🙏
But Mariko DOES lecture Toranaga on "men" at a scene in their warcamp.
Still, it's a good series overall.
This show felt like breath of much needed fresh air after being for so long in a misma of shii with all the terrible shows and movies that are being made nowadays.
Go Reaper!! ❤
i am glad reaper likes stuff, but i am conditioned to expect his relentless destruction of crap
First time disagree, but I was enjoying the 1980 series when I was a kid.
Great video as always, mate! Keep it up!
“And it looks fOHking OHsome” damn it I love his accent
The japaneese would never let their culture and ancestors get disrespected. Thats why it survived the hollywood bullshit
Nice work as always 🙂👍
this series is perfection. totally sign on.
Finally, a great story not destroyed by hollywood.
So nice I watched it twice
I just watch the ending yesterday, probably one of the best endings i have ever watch.
I love that in Japan the Japanese speak Japanese haha! Reading subtitles isn’t difficult and you have no choice but to pay attention!
Totally Agree best show of the year ❤🎉
Just ten, anyone else remembers Tv's hay days? When shows ranged from 13 to 26 episodes per season(for whipper snappers/kids reading, this is true)! Honestly, seriously missing them. Write me!
I didnt think it was that good, too much focus on the females at times for me but overall a better show than most these days
Having watched the original back in late 80s , this remake has some very big shoes to fill.
I'm looking forward to listening to the audiobook for Shogun on Audible. 🙂😁
This is how you write strong female characters. Fuji’s story arc on grief is perfect. Toranaga sending Mariko to disrupt alliance relationships and achieve what an army can’t is badass. Also Yabushige’s constant will changing is very funny XD
Mariko facing off agaisnt the guards was perfect. She only managed to slightly injure one, but the context meant it felt more earned and real than if she killed all of them with bossbitch mode.
I totally agree with this review. Amazing
One of the best series made in the past decade! I’ve read the book, saw the old version and this takes the cake! Acting, cinematography, editing, writing, costumes, everything was incredible!
You didn't think Richard Chamberlain had more charisma than the potato they casted in this new version ? (same for Mariko)
@@Shryce Completely agreed, they butchered 'em both... so badly.
For anyone looking to see a further development of the story, I recommend Sekigahara, a Japanese film depicting the eponymous battle. Bare in mind that the historical figures in Shogun have altered names and Sekigahara uses the real ones. Visit the Shogun Wikipedia page to know who's who.
I fucking agree
I should watch this
"shoguns have traditionally worn elastic tighty whities"
Absolutely awesome show, had me hooked every single episode.
I grew up watching the Shogun series from the 80's and have been more or less "it needs to absolute blow everyone away if I want to watch something I've already seen, or worse, it sucks so much I would leave it with a bad taste in my mouth and yet another remake sucks ass." But everyone, including Reaper seems to love it, so I think I will dare watching this!
Hiro Sanada acted in Japanese Historical Dramas so he knows what he needed to do in Shogun as a producer. Casting Fumi Nikaido as Lady Ochiba is a good choice as she portrayed the actual historical counterpart of Lady Ochiba herself, Lady Yodo.
God tier. Ripley was good too
Hello Reaper.
"Best show of 2024" is not as high of a praise as you might think
i would even claim it is the best show since early game of thrones
O.k. I will give it a try, I do not see empowered women or blacks so it looks safe.
Also the trickster looks interesting.
Velma Season 2 and Tales of the Empire I know are terrible, Hoping you do one of them soon however you are going to have to watch Clone Wars to even know one of the characters in Tales of the Empire.
yabushige es tan divertido
cuando escribe el poema ante de ser ejecutado (que era atroz) y dice "estaba inspirado" 😄
If the Reap Man recommends it- it’s good enough for me!
Will you do velma season 2
We need Yasuke to appear in S2 and put Blackthorne in his place for being a privileged huwhayt maille.
good and all but the real question is ¿are you going to review velma 2 ?
Show was excellent but unfortunately I don’t think a season 2 is gonna happen.
Can you do a review on LEXX the late 90s SciFi Tv show?
Hey Reaper, I just watched the Poor Things the other night with my wife, I would REALLY like to heare your opinion on it :)
I started off enjoying this show, but it retconned the novel so hard that I could not finish it.
its getting a season 2
If you liked Shogun 2024, you should watch Shogun from 80s
DAWG its my duty to BEG you to review the idol pls pls pls pls pls
also love your takes you're equal parts hilarious and pertinent in your critique
This show definitely exceeded my expectations, and mariko was an exceptional character, my only gripe was not getting an awesome Japanese battle.
Unable to get past first episode due of excessive amount of violence. But visuals are top notch.
If you know japanese history, that's actually pretty tame, and no I'm not including ww2 stuff. Japan was always wild.
@@almalone3282
Cant help but wonder how they managed to survive as nation, if in course of history they able throw away lives of others that easily...
Hear hear!
It's anti-climatic because history itself wasn't a movie.
There was alot of politicking and moves not related to war at all.
Toronaga(Leyasu) already basically predicted how the battle would play out anyways, the finale essentially was foreshadowing the reality of the outcome.
Now that it's confirmed we're getting a season 2, we can finally see what the producers wanted out of that battle.
Do you like the show but I am guessing you weren’t a fan of the finale
Authenticity is that too much to ask? That's really all I want in modern media not political Bullshit.
true and shogunpilled
100% Hands down best show post coof hands down... Best since Peaky Blinders and Ozarks IMO
Good show
The moment I saw the video title I was wondering if you were going to reference that braindead article. You didn't disappoint lol
3:14 Regarding this, I strongly recommend James Clavell's fantastic novels, if you want to see "strong female characters" that are strong in a real feminine way, not a false feminist way. Especially Shogun, the equally good Tai-Pan, and Noble House. You will love these novels. They are fantastic. Regarding Shogun, the original mini series is what made old Japanese culture so popular in the West - the buildings, the kimonos, samurai, Zen Buddhism, the swords, bushido, and so on.
The acting is superb but I doubt it is going to be the best show of 2024
Glad to see a positive review from Reaper 👏😀
a lot of anti-woke reviews are praising this so it's giving me decent hope that this may actually be a good show :3
I've really only heard good things about the show. From the people I follow, to journos seething about the lack of diversity. I'll be sure to watch it.
I'm Portuguese and I saw what you did over there!!! 😏