The Most Logical Arguments AGAINST Veganism (In 10 Minutes)

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  • @AlyssonAugusto
    @AlyssonAugusto 3 роки тому +857

    *The most logical persons would never argues against veganism, because there isn't any plausible argument against being vegan.*
    Edit: I've dubbed this video to brazilian portuguese and posted here in my channel.

    • @Mikebigmike94
      @Mikebigmike94 3 роки тому +143

      @Aaron Loos what shite are you talking? the fact is most of us in the western world have a choice to be vegan or not. so why choose to kill another sentient being? stop making rubbish excuses man, simply walk to tesco and buy some fruit and veg ffs. veganism has been proven to be the ONLY sustainable diet. you might wanna check out the oxford study

    • @entropicpedro
      @entropicpedro 3 роки тому +49

      @Aaron Loos non-natural and non-sustainable...
      Ayyyt imma head out

    • @じゃみっと
      @じゃみっと 3 роки тому +30

      @Aaron Loos Nope, wrong again, Aaron. Kiddie fiddlers and meat eaters take advantage of the powerless

    • @keep7smiling
      @keep7smiling 3 роки тому +45

      @Aaron Loos i don't know where this information comes from, but that is not true. Legumes, whole grains, veggies, fruit, nuts and seeds have all the nutrition we need and a huge variety of them is locally available almost everywhere in the world. Even among the philosophers in ancient greece and rome there were many vegans, f.e. sokrates, so this has nothing to do with modern life.

    • @crissinbon
      @crissinbon 3 роки тому +57

      @Aaron Loos Literally in the poorest zones of this world, people eat vegetables and lentils and all that kind of stuff cause it's cheap af. Low cost, ya know.
      I've never been privileged in my whole life, sometimes i don't even know if I'll be able to buy groceries for my mom til the end of the month (and, spoiler, my grocery trips are cheap af), and yet what do i eat? Vegan stuff. Cause you know, all the vegetables, fruits and lentils in the world? Yeah, a product doesn't need to have the label "vegan" and "meat alternative" to be, in fact vegan.
      You just make up a bunch of thing and then say "YES, I'VE POKER OF ACES" but we're playing basketball here

  • @tobbs5410
    @tobbs5410 3 роки тому +410

    'You betrayed that dog who loved you!!'
    Literally every single 'organic', 'free range', 'holistic', 'humane' and 'small scale' farmed animal being sent to the slaughterhouse: 'Yeah, shocking ain't it?'

    • @ultralightcam6963
      @ultralightcam6963 3 роки тому +4

      My dood prolly said that witha pizza on the way

    • @lauradusty7880
      @lauradusty7880 3 роки тому +8

      Don’t get a dog if you’re not going to keep the dog.

    • @milanhenke343
      @milanhenke343 3 роки тому

      @henry t You dropped a domesticated animal in the woods?

    • @ultralightcam6963
      @ultralightcam6963 3 роки тому +1

      @@lauradusty7880 pretty much

    • @rodionraskolnikov3853
      @rodionraskolnikov3853 3 роки тому +2

      If the death of the animal benefits humanity, what's the problem?

  • @MakePeasNotBeef
    @MakePeasNotBeef 3 роки тому +857

    As a vegan climate activist the thing that frustrates me the most is when I speak to other environmentalists and they are willing to do EVERYTHING ELSE to save the planet except for giving up meat and dairy. Ughhhh

    • @MakePeasNotBeef
      @MakePeasNotBeef 3 роки тому +11

      @@pitoububble AWWW THANK YOU YOU ARE THE SWEETEST 😍🙏❤️ It's a pun on "Eat Plants Not Meat" & "Make Peace Not War" hahahah ;)

    • @sujohnR
      @sujohnR 3 роки тому +33

      Yes, just watched Neil degrade Tyson’s argument for eating meat and I am like how such genius mind could be so illogical when it comes to being vegan.

    • @MakePeasNotBeef
      @MakePeasNotBeef 3 роки тому +17

      @@sujohnR So true!! I was recently talking to a climate VC and he was saying "If you feel bad about eating a steak, go offset that emission". In my head I was thinking why do you need to have that steak in the first place??

    • @tivanleak1372
      @tivanleak1372 3 роки тому +32

      I think people like to tell others what they should do but aren't willing to make sacrifices themselves. A lot of people in the climate debate want the government to solve the problem or expect corporations to reduce their emissions but aren't themselves willing to make more sustainable choices.

    • @MakePeasNotBeef
      @MakePeasNotBeef 3 роки тому +27

      @@tivanleak1372 Totally and this is part of my mission - to dispel environmentalists' cognitive dissonance around eating meat and encourage them to give up meat and dairy. I've been in the same room as so many other environmentalists and climate activists, many of which are saying "You do not need to go vegan to save the planet. We need systemic change." That's like saying "You can continue to waste plastic and drive a gas car so long as the government doesn't put a ban on it." Knowing the right thing to do, but not doing it, is pure hypocrisy.

  • @TeoTheFox2008
    @TeoTheFox2008 2 роки тому +109

    Ngl I thought this was a Rick roll when I saw this on r/place and scanned this

  • @Gnashadelphia
    @Gnashadelphia 3 роки тому +581

    A few years back I had a “vegan awakening” and ended up writing a brutal horror novel called Tamer Animals with a dire message. It ended up getting a lot of attention so I hope I made some people think.. keep it up Ed! You’re amazing.

    • @tobbs5410
      @tobbs5410 3 роки тому +20

      Where can I find your novel?

    • @GS-lq2is
      @GS-lq2is 3 роки тому +5

      Is it gory? I hate gory stuff. But I'd like to support a vegan novel!

    • @Gnashadelphia
      @Gnashadelphia 3 роки тому +12

      @@GS-lq2is it’s very gory unfortunately. Thanks though!

    • @pouchonguersaint5289
      @pouchonguersaint5289 3 роки тому +1

      @@Gnashadelphia This better be good, bought some KFC and I don't want to waste it reading something pointless. Overall I'll just start reading.

    • @MeghanRidgell
      @MeghanRidgell 3 роки тому

      That is awesome! I want to read it! Good for you :)

  • @wenta24
    @wenta24 2 роки тому +26

    Here from r/place, what a beautiful put together vidoe

  • @zerid0
    @zerid0 3 роки тому +149

    Great video.
    I'm impressed at how you manage to express so many good arguments in such a short video :)

  • @kaputabo
    @kaputabo 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks!

  • @Kiubier
    @Kiubier 2 роки тому +188

    r/place brought me here !!! I saw the title and was dissapointed but when the video started I was happy

    • @Oug34
      @Oug34 2 роки тому +5

      Ya same, I was expecting a Rick roll

    • @seanmcnew18
      @seanmcnew18 2 роки тому +2

      @@Oug34
      so was I!

    • @hogwash6564
      @hogwash6564 2 роки тому

      Yeah me too I expected a rickroll but this is fine

    • @MrRobot191
      @MrRobot191 2 роки тому

      Same

    • @redzebra2108
      @redzebra2108 2 роки тому

      haha same thought it was rickroll

  • @Laurenpclarke
    @Laurenpclarke 3 роки тому +216

    Man, I love this dude. He just breaks it the fuck down, EVERYTIME👏🏾👏🏾

    • @GoVeganForTheAnimal
      @GoVeganForTheAnimal 3 роки тому +4

      I can't imagine being an open minded carnist and watching this just dumbfounded like 'well I guess I gotta go vegan, heck'

    • @SNinjaQK
      @SNinjaQK 3 роки тому +17

      @@GoVeganForTheAnimal vegans were open minded carnists

    • @ultralightcam6963
      @ultralightcam6963 3 роки тому +1

      EVERYTIME

    • @georgewashingtom6516
      @georgewashingtom6516 3 роки тому

      @@SNinjaQK Carnist isn't the right word. Omnivore is.

    • @GoVeganForTheAnimal
      @GoVeganForTheAnimal 3 роки тому +3

      @@georgewashingtom6516 both apply google it if you wanna learn but Omnivore is probably better in activism it sounds less aggressive. Carnivore is different than carnist
      Also I know i used to be an omnivore but I have been vegan before watching this vid so it's interesting to consider how I would have reacted had i seen this 4 years ago

  • @markkeeper7771
    @markkeeper7771 2 роки тому +103

    Came here from r/place.
    Good job for whoever made the QR code.

  • @devinlara3093
    @devinlara3093 2 роки тому +62

    Here from the r/place.

  • @goodvibesallday9245
    @goodvibesallday9245 3 роки тому +400

    I'm vegitarian and you have convinced me to be vegan.
    I grew up on a farm. Mainly cows and crops like peanuts cotton soy excetera. As a kid I would go with my dad to AI cows and Heifers. I would find it quite disturbing but eventually I became so desensitized to it because someone I trust was doing this so I thought it was fine. I even took interest in farming. When I was about 11 or 12 I showed a steer( a castrated bull) at county beef expos and festivals. They judged the steers based on the meat they could produce based on there build and size and heifers based on how well they would reproduce. I took care of Big Iron for over 6 months before showing. I halter broke him, fed him, groomed him for show. The reason I wanted to show cows is because my older cousin did and I looked up to her so we showed together. After doing about thre shows and winning grandchampion and reserve grandchampion places with Big Iron he was sold to a slaughter house. That when the first seeds to becoming vegitarian where planted. My family told me that was nature, and Big Iron didn't suffer. A few years later I started doing more research about meat industries and veggitarianism. After discovering your channel I've decided to become vegan. Thank you.
    Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

    • @pitoububble
      @pitoububble 3 роки тому +8

      Nice :D

    • @rh7968
      @rh7968 3 роки тому +5

      Grats!

    • @CptBumFlufff
      @CptBumFlufff 3 роки тому +14

      Legend, thanks for your willingness to change. ✌

    • @goodvibesallday9245
      @goodvibesallday9245 3 роки тому +35

      @@CptBumFlufff thx guys. It's nice to know there are people who are proud of me(besides myself) for my resent change. It's been hard because my family doesn't think highly of vegans, but I'm sticking by my decision and doing my best.

    • @maffildesignorini
      @maffildesignorini 3 роки тому +9

      Happy to hear that! Thank you for making this choice, I know it can be difficult when people around you do not completely understand, so thank you for doing what is right despite this

  • @nicoleonfeels
    @nicoleonfeels 3 роки тому +217

    The editing on this video is so well done, as well as the topic itself. You’re doing great work, Ed 👏🏽

    • @v.a.n.e.
      @v.a.n.e. 3 роки тому +1

      we all know you wrote a comment ahead of time and purposefully made it generic in order to replay regardless of the content. shame on you!

    • @nicoleonfeels
      @nicoleonfeels 3 роки тому +8

      @@v.a.n.e. not the case. This was a genuine comment. & all of my comments are written in the moment. Just trying to spread positivity here ✌🏽

    • @v.a.n.e.
      @v.a.n.e. 3 роки тому

      I think it is a loaded question and the product of your misperception. I'm only spiteful on vegan channels. @Anon Anon

    • @aurelijagarbanovaite3462
      @aurelijagarbanovaite3462 3 роки тому +3

      @@v.a.n.e. well I haven't heard of a vegan going into animal farming channels and spreading hate. I guess that's telling. Have a nice day too!

    • @harshagrawal3474
      @harshagrawal3474 3 роки тому

      @@nicoleonfeels then you should stop killing and eating animals...

  • @oldirtyvegan2385
    @oldirtyvegan2385 3 роки тому +1022

    Top of the food chain? Let's try to be on top of the brain chain.

    • @Kiyarose3999
      @Kiyarose3999 3 роки тому +9

      I think we are at the top of the food chain, but as part of the most numerous, biggest and most Social of Earthlings, Herbivores & Frugivores

    • @frankmedrisch7451
      @frankmedrisch7451 3 роки тому +17

      We are so much top of the food chain as gorillas are (who are vegan). What makes us being “top of the food chain”? We are hominids, apes essentially, not shark lions or leopards. I think the expression is fundamentally wrong.

    • @veganfortheanimals6994
      @veganfortheanimals6994 3 роки тому +14

      Definitely a good idea my friend

    • @oldirtyvegan2385
      @oldirtyvegan2385 3 роки тому +8

      @@veganfortheanimals6994 🙏

    • @oldirtyvegan2385
      @oldirtyvegan2385 3 роки тому +6

      @@pitoububble Cuz you're a boss!🙏

  • @BooksAce
    @BooksAce 2 роки тому +348

    No Rickroll? I'm pleasantly surprised. Great video too.

    • @jazz9260
      @jazz9260 2 роки тому +38

      Equally surprised lol, here from r/place

    • @gianlu4357
      @gianlu4357 2 роки тому +7

      here from there too

    • @TBJ64
      @TBJ64 2 роки тому +3

      I am REALLY surprised that this wasn’t a Rick roll or something trolly.

    • @riverkieffer9046
      @riverkieffer9046 2 роки тому +1

      R/place

    • @xlr8ed398
      @xlr8ed398 2 роки тому +1

      r/place gang

  • @AnimalRightsAdvocates
    @AnimalRightsAdvocates 3 роки тому +319

    The animals need you. Go vegan. Defend animals ♥

    • @Kiyarose3999
      @Kiyarose3999 3 роки тому +4

      Yes, while defending Human rights to not starve, from ‘developed’ countries meat, Lactose-Ovo based diets

    • @bullcogs7975
      @bullcogs7975 3 роки тому +13

      animals are food

    • @sukisukidaisuki128
      @sukisukidaisuki128 3 роки тому +17

      @@bullcogs7975 they used to be but not anymore to us

    • @agalavot
      @agalavot 3 роки тому +1

      Seems like plants have a position that can be disrespected, because of their lower level of coscience. So if rich people dreams more and better than poor ones, is it moral to eat poor people?If science, in a step of its progress, accept poor people have "trascurable" kpis than its ok, until i think, something different is discovered (it happens pretty frequently)
      .

    • @sukisukidaisuki128
      @sukisukidaisuki128 3 роки тому +7

      @@agalavot poor people like me are plants now??

  • @FranciscoAlvarezTV
    @FranciscoAlvarezTV 3 роки тому +74

    I have yet to come across a logical, rational and critically thought out argument against veganism which cannot be debunked in two seconds flat. Religion, taste, culture, tradition, personal choice….you name it. What baffles me the most is that they attempt to defend their cognitive dissonance against a movement that is about compassion and love for all living creatures. It’s mind-boggling that they would oppose humanity in its purest form. The worst part is that I have encountered humans that fight me tooth and nail while vehemently defending their heinous treatment of our fellow earthlings. It’s maddening, sad and deflating but we cannot stop. We will never stop.

    • @Limemill
      @Limemill 3 роки тому +4

      Well, there are people out there who say that basically we're constrained by our legal systems and that eating anything that is legally allowed is fine because they deny the moral imperative of doing onto others as you would do onto yourself. While those people are borderline (or even actual) sociopaths, it's logical. They would eat human meat too if, say, our societies sold the meat of executed criminals or something. Pretty terrifying, but logically consistent

    • @MarkoMood
      @MarkoMood 3 роки тому +2

      It's just because people haven't thought about it enough. The topic is not a matter of argumentation, it's just a preference, or lack thereof. If you dislike and don't care for eating chocolate, there's no argument that can change your state. Same way, there is no argument to make one start or stop caring about animals. So the only sound excuse to be or not to be vegan is wanting to or not wanting to. It doesn't get deeper than that.

    • @Sovvyy
      @Sovvyy 3 роки тому +8

      ​@@Limemill "I don't care" arguments are not quite as logical as they appear from my experience. If someone only cares for themselves, then it's in their interest to reduce novel viruses, improve the environment and often physical health etc. Social consequences also, such as reducing dehumanisation (if an animals life is valued, then yours will always be) etc.

    • @BrokenEyedVegan
      @BrokenEyedVegan 3 роки тому +8

      If I hear the B12 argument one more time I’m going to have a break down ahaha 😂

    • @BrokenEyedVegan
      @BrokenEyedVegan 3 роки тому

      You should of seen the argument I had the other day on UA-cam with a Christian. Who eventually started to insult me personally, thanks for your Christian peace and love lol. I recorded the conversation and put it on my channel

  • @michaeld4861
    @michaeld4861 3 роки тому +7

    Dang, the script (and editing) for this video was fantastic. Keep up the important work Ed.

  • @veganfortheanimals6994
    @veganfortheanimals6994 3 роки тому +22

    Awesome video, Ed and team

  • @thetempest71
    @thetempest71 2 роки тому +21

    I just wanted to say how fantastic this video is. I am currently writing a Veganism paper for my Biology class and you brought up some very interesting points. The formatting is engaging and questioning morality and choice is a good conflict to consider.
    So thank you!

  • @summerhalliday2076
    @summerhalliday2076 2 роки тому +128

    can we take a moment to appreciate the editing ?? very digestible i love it

    • @pgrothschild
      @pgrothschild Рік тому +5

      ​@Dantes230that's exactly why you watched it lmao

    • @ipga13
      @ipga13 Рік тому +1

      very digestible like delicious meats.

    • @earthpart3
      @earthpart3 Рік тому

      @@ipga13 found the virgin

  • @oraziopugliese5613
    @oraziopugliese5613 3 роки тому +1

    Grazie.

  • @CompassionIsPower
    @CompassionIsPower 3 роки тому +129

    That point about a firefighter saving my plant over my dog was really interesting. I'll be sure to use that argument next time... you know what I mean

    • @libertymedia8080
      @libertymedia8080 3 роки тому +4

      Well some people might genuinely value a plant over their dog, think of a case where that wasn't an Aloe Vera plant but a bonsai tree which they spent their whole life cultivating and the dog as being almost at the end of it's natural life. Now i know this is a more unlikely scenario but does Ed's same logic still apply? The point is that the person is upset because they value the dog in his example more than the plant ... but what people value is entirely subjective and there is some weird people out there. Like the people who euthanized their dog. It doesn't prove anything, he just sets up an example to benefit his argument.

    • @libertymedia8080
      @libertymedia8080 3 роки тому +1

      @@shshsh-s5o I do agree that the "plants are living things too tho" argument is pretty pointless. But the reason for that is that morality and what people value is subjective and not universal so will obviously differ, and i think that's the point Ed should have made. Truthfully though Ed as an activist is pushing his own view of morality in this video nothing more. To be clear he is entitled to do that i think he has an interesting perspective, but nothing in this video is proved or disproved logically.

    • @libertymedia8080
      @libertymedia8080 3 роки тому

      ​@@pitoububble Yeah well kind of but that's my point. He critiques a bad arguments like "plants are living things too tho" by offering another bad argument which has the same flaw he was trying to criticize in the first place. Obviously i understand he was correctly pointing out how most people would behave if someone saved their plant over their dog, but it doesn't mean anything because it's not wrong in any objective sense. It's only right or wrong because of what the person subjectively valued.

    • @ActiveGamingUK
      @ActiveGamingUK 3 роки тому +1

      @@libertymedia8080 yes agreed some people value money over a multitude of things, even human life in some cases, that isn’t news

    • @libertymedia8080
      @libertymedia8080 3 роки тому +1

      @@shshsh-s5o Yeah i actually really agree with you here, it is always really important to question why we believe what we do. That's why i enjoy watching Ed's content because i enjoy being exposed to ideas that challenge my own.

  • @veganfortheanimals6994
    @veganfortheanimals6994 3 роки тому +161

    Good to see "God tho" not under logical arguments, spot on

    • @GoVeganForTheAnimal
      @GoVeganForTheAnimal 3 роки тому +39

      1. Thou shalt not kill
      2. Adam and eve were vegan
      3. Daniel fast
      4. Passover includes tons of rituals that we no longer follow
      5. Most religions don't even follow kosher rules
      6. God's creatures are genetically modified from His creation and treated like objects.
      7. Love thy neighbor?
      I'm not religious but here's some things I've picked up on

    • @missbrookes1143
      @missbrookes1143 3 роки тому +9

      Rude to say God isn’t logical but difference of opinion. And either way, Allah says that we only take when we need. The prophet Muhammad peace be upon him very rarely ate meat and he advocated towards this by saying eating meat is a luxury, not an everyday meal. The prophet believed that meat was addicting like that of wine and told his followers to eat meat once every 40 days because the consumption of meat made the heart tough (causes a stroke). And tbh the only reason he told his followers to eat meat during that time because there wasn’t as many varieties back then that could sustain a healthy diet. I feel that all facts lead to a plant based diet in islam but many Muslims overlook it. I mean theres a reason why many meat is haram and why meat must be killed in a halal way to be palatable. The rules on eating meat is harsh because of the reason that meat shouldn’t be eaten so often.

    • @MukulVyas5
      @MukulVyas5 3 роки тому +20

      @@missbrookes1143 Killing meat ? You mean killing animals. Also, Halal and Kosher are probably the most barbaric and painful ways to kill. But I do understand what you mean. Although in my POV, I'm not against people practising their religion unless it harms animals or humans. It's just that religious texts shouldn't be seen as the sole guiding principles and/or dogmatically on how to treat others. They were written in a different time. In today's context it's unnecessary to kill and abuse animals.
      Ultimately though; rationale > religion.

    • @alianathefoxfairy
      @alianathefoxfairy 3 роки тому +4

      @@MukulVyas5 1000% yes

    • @reedclippings8991
      @reedclippings8991 3 роки тому +4

      @@GoVeganForTheAnimal Nice list, sincerely. The problem is the use of "man's dominion over animals" in Genesis. Many (not all) of the religious only need one iteration of what they want to hear to discredit all of the lines they don't want to hear. Compare to the biblical justifications of lgbtq hate, justifications of witch killing, and support of slavery during the civil war time.

  • @nabe8133
    @nabe8133 2 роки тому +54

    Anyone here from r/place lol

  • @fizzila_cochonarchive
    @fizzila_cochonarchive 3 роки тому +27

    Seeing The Promised Neverland included in this video really made me smile. I've never actually commented on this channel before but I've been subscribed for a while now. And I would just like to say, thank you for everything that you do. Oh, and great video! 🌿🌱

    • @SchiKrom
      @SchiKrom 3 роки тому +5

      ngl, that anime hits hard

    • @fizzila_cochonarchive
      @fizzila_cochonarchive 3 роки тому +1

      @@SchiKrom Hell yeah it does! Such a good anime.

    • @anettkallai
      @anettkallai 3 роки тому +2

      I loved that animeee

    • @fizzila_cochonarchive
      @fizzila_cochonarchive 3 роки тому

      @@anettkallai Same!

    • @lelrond
      @lelrond 3 роки тому +5

      First season was a masterpiece, but let's not talk about the second :c

  • @LLawliet-pz1rm
    @LLawliet-pz1rm 2 роки тому +18

    cool to see this qr code stood until the end

  • @francisfischer7620
    @francisfischer7620 8 місяців тому +1

    Bless you for your profoundly holy and good work. We've been vegan for 40 years. It amazes us, at the age of 70, that this movement is growing. We never imagined this would happen. There is reason for hope.

  • @MaxsMonthlyChallenge
    @MaxsMonthlyChallenge 3 роки тому +202

    Thank you Ed ❤️

    • @vivek-ku3qo
      @vivek-ku3qo 3 роки тому +2

      Hey🤗

    • @kusumsharma5025
      @kusumsharma5025 3 роки тому +1

      🤗i found Ed's channel just a few days ago and i watch it daily 🤗

    • @aldubm2234
      @aldubm2234 2 роки тому

      I’m eating meat and will always eat meat

  • @tobster1499
    @tobster1499 2 роки тому +8

    R/place gang were you at?

  • @teresajose2280
    @teresajose2280 3 роки тому +45

    😢 can’t believe I ate dead animals for so long. I feel sick thinking about it. All that needless killing for my taste buds. I feel so guilty.

    • @veganfortheanimals6994
      @veganfortheanimals6994 3 роки тому +5

      I can relate

    • @sschreck08
      @sschreck08 3 роки тому +2

      It probably didn’t take you as long as me! I wish I had woken up earlier so that I could have some influence on my kids. 😥

    • @GoVeganForTheAnimal
      @GoVeganForTheAnimal 3 роки тому +1

      @@sschreck08 You are a good person if you don't feel like your kids are receptive to the idea try activism with others in the meantime. sometimes you gotta plant the seed and let it flourish over time and give them some space. especially since kids don't listen as well to their momma's in some contexts it can be more challenging than convincing a random stranger lol

    • @sschreck08
      @sschreck08 3 роки тому +1

      @@GoVeganForTheAnimal you're right; sometimes, family members are the hardest to convince. Right now, my son is battling cancer, and he is staying with me because he's too sick from the chemo treatments to be on his own. The things I see him eating make me cringe, but I don't feel that this is the right to drill plant-based into him. I have cooked some plant-based meals that he has liked, though, so it's a start.

    • @GoVeganForTheAnimal
      @GoVeganForTheAnimal 3 роки тому +1

      @@sschreck08 bless your heart, that is a very difficult position

  • @byamboy
    @byamboy 3 роки тому +68

    You are basically doing what I wanted to have done with my life! Thank you so much for your work and thank goodness for your eloquence!

    • @drmarkrieke
      @drmarkrieke Рік тому +2

      Can always help by spreading his videos or small cash contributions…

    • @1211-n4d
      @1211-n4d Рік тому

      @@drmarkrieke don't spread vegan cancer... fuck left wingers. If veganism actually came from respectable people who actually cared about real social justice, then I might take it far more seriously.

  • @DasKatze500
    @DasKatze500 3 роки тому +18

    The effective thing about Ed’s videos are the combination of logic/philosophy with the emotional appeal. Combining indisputable logical arguments with the images of what actually happens in slaughterhouses - doesn’t allow people to live with their ignorance.

    • @shin-ishikiri-no
      @shin-ishikiri-no 3 роки тому

      @@ljp1854 Excuse.

    • @humanityisdumb4551
      @humanityisdumb4551 3 роки тому

      @@ljp1854I mean he won’t talk on a subject he knows nothing about, unlike you.

    • @ponnamy
      @ponnamy 3 роки тому

      @@humanityisdumb4551 Well said !

  • @geizigeratze
    @geizigeratze 3 роки тому +74

    Damn, I think you’ve converted me with this.

    • @brunocyclist
      @brunocyclist 3 роки тому +13

      welcome to the club!

    • @frodeverli4852
      @frodeverli4852 3 роки тому +6

      Gogooo 💚

    • @Alex-sr7op
      @Alex-sr7op 3 роки тому +3

      Welcome dude

    • @Destiny.lavender
      @Destiny.lavender 3 роки тому +3

      Yaaaay

    • @ellensirca9915
      @ellensirca9915 2 роки тому +1

      Any updates? Don’t stop exposing yourself to videos like this! Ed has some amazing debates on his UA-cam channel with people from different universities and colleges discussing different topics of veganism which I would highly recommend :)

  • @apgrenus
    @apgrenus 2 роки тому +13

    Hello r/place people

  • @MrJohnyfish
    @MrJohnyfish 9 місяців тому +1

    Not a wasted word. Wonderfully articulate and beyond any counter argument

  • @chopinpongong
    @chopinpongong 2 роки тому +9

    I thought it was a rickroll

  • @jarod703
    @jarod703 2 роки тому +36

    The fact that THIS is video is a permanent part of human history thanks to r/place

  • @vimaa_S
    @vimaa_S 2 роки тому +10

    Reddit’s r/place brought me here after scanning the QR code on the top right corner. Damnnn

  • @jamescooper4252
    @jamescooper4252 3 роки тому +64

    How can you have less than millions of subscribers?
    Surprising.

    • @CurvaSudJFC
      @CurvaSudJFC 3 роки тому +10

      Because people don't like to exit the confort zone, and prefer not to see, and hiding the head under the sand. Ed would deserv 5M subscribers in a perfect world.

    • @GoVeganForTheAnimal
      @GoVeganForTheAnimal 3 роки тому +5

      @@CurvaSudJFC He will get there as the walls of animal exploitation continue to crumble more people will find their way here and sub

    • @CurvaSudJFC
      @CurvaSudJFC 3 роки тому +2

      @@GoVeganForTheAnimal yeah, i strongly believe that, every single day. But for now, it's not 😔

    • @bullcogs7975
      @bullcogs7975 3 роки тому +2

      because veganism is not that big

    • @Naruto7h
      @Naruto7h 3 роки тому

      Thinking he'd have more subscribers is a nightmare

  • @davidsthoughts60
    @davidsthoughts60 3 роки тому +7

    All of your videos are good, but you've hit a home run with this one. Your succinct rebuttals and explanations are excellent.

  • @CaboosTG
    @CaboosTG 2 роки тому +11

    r/place anyone?

  • @PetrilloCinema
    @PetrilloCinema 10 місяців тому +1

    You made the single most informative video on this platform for this ongoing crisis. This will help us change together, for the animals and for ourselves🙏. Thank you

  • @colincunningham3733
    @colincunningham3733 2 роки тому +10

    POV: You’re here from r/place 2022

  • @beastieplays
    @beastieplays 2 роки тому +7

    Check in from r/place, we’ll see where it continues to take us :$

  • @erinevans9292
    @erinevans9292 3 роки тому +21

    Just leaving a comment so hopefully more people can see this. Thank you Ed for everything you do

  • @thatonekid1732
    @thatonekid1732 2 роки тому +56

    I was expecting an r/place rickroll, not this!

    • @Nico-fl3tq
      @Nico-fl3tq 2 роки тому +8

      I hope you watched it anyways. The animals need more people that care about them and wanna reduce their suffering.

    • @nevada5142
      @nevada5142 2 роки тому

      Same xD

    • @orleancarias2426
      @orleancarias2426 2 роки тому

      Same dude wtf!!!

    • @frenchpillow2952
      @frenchpillow2952 2 роки тому

      Same

  • @randomguy5565
    @randomguy5565 3 роки тому +25

    This might be one of the best resources so far! I think I'll show this at work, I wonder what argument they'll have left after. Thanks Ed!

    • @randomguy5565
      @randomguy5565 3 роки тому +5

      @KR45Y76 you found this video quite early, considering you're just here to post hate comments... if you consider someone calmly and logically dismantling flawed arguments propaganda, then yeah sure it is

    • @humanityisdumb4551
      @humanityisdumb4551 3 роки тому

      @KR45Y76 so science is propaganda? nice to know.

  • @scarecrowstuff4717
    @scarecrowstuff4717 2 роки тому +39

    I came here from r/place, I was hoping for Rick roll

    • @harruri
      @harruri 2 роки тому +1

      SAME HERE

    • @foxdra
      @foxdra 2 роки тому +1

      Same dude

    • @jazz9260
      @jazz9260 2 роки тому

      I honestly thought it wouldn’t work 😂 people kept fighting for the space

    • @penbloomfield3062
      @penbloomfield3062 2 роки тому

      The other QR code is a rick roll, see if you can find it

    • @DstrtdERrr-yh2pe
      @DstrtdERrr-yh2pe 2 роки тому

      Same lol

  • @chmuurkaa3030
    @chmuurkaa3030 2 роки тому +12

    POV: You're revisiting 2022's r/Place

  • @scheiegaltaxi7743
    @scheiegaltaxi7743 2 роки тому +7

    Someone else who is there through r/place?

    • @Azarilh
      @Azarilh 2 роки тому

      I dunno, try to sort comments by new, maybe.

  • @yarnemeirlaen8399
    @yarnemeirlaen8399 2 роки тому +9

    Any r/place people?

  • @nataliefulton3400
    @nataliefulton3400 3 роки тому +5

    Damn this covers all the bases very powerfully. Amazing video!

  • @TheCoExister
    @TheCoExister 3 роки тому +18

    Thank you for your work Ed 🙏🏽

  • @FezTerR
    @FezTerR 2 роки тому +26

    Up vote this if you got here because of Reddit

    • @jennifermcilwain5095
      @jennifermcilwain5095 2 роки тому

      Lol "upvote" on UA-cam ☠️ p.s. I do the same shyt all the time. Reddit = superior.

  • @Pjvenom1985
    @Pjvenom1985 3 роки тому +163

    Eloquently put Boyo. Swift indepth coherent message. Keep fighting the good fight as best you can.🌱🌍🧠

  • @connorwhitmore5400
    @connorwhitmore5400 3 роки тому +14

    Another absolutely exceptional video. Thank you so much for everything you do.

  • @keshyhiragikurosaki6654
    @keshyhiragikurosaki6654 2 роки тому +5

    So um r/place brought me here, i was prepared for a rickroll but pleasently surprised

  • @liveofarch
    @liveofarch 2 роки тому +11

    why was this a QR code on r/place

    • @maxxdhaha
      @maxxdhaha 2 роки тому +9

      to tell you to stop abusing animals

  • @GS-lq2is
    @GS-lq2is 3 роки тому +11

    Omg, Ed, this was amazing. Thank you for the incredible work that you're doing.

  • @paddysmith72
    @paddysmith72 3 роки тому +6

    Great work Ed!🌱

  • @amandaneumann5452
    @amandaneumann5452 3 роки тому +8

    Ed, you hit this one out of the park!!! There is no way to argue against any of this!! Well done!!! 👏🏻🌱👏🏻🌱👏🏻🌱👏🏻

    • @lrn_news9171
      @lrn_news9171 Рік тому

      Yes there is

    • @Death-999
      @Death-999 Рік тому +1

      Well... What's the alternative? What can you eat that doesn't harm animals?

  • @DrSirmacek
    @DrSirmacek 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you Ed. Greetings from NL.

  • @aminesemlali6199
    @aminesemlali6199 3 роки тому +35

    I'm jealous of how much positive energy and good feeling you will receive back from all your efforts :)

    • @GoVeganForTheAnimal
      @GoVeganForTheAnimal 3 роки тому +6

      Do it for the animals pull your positivity from the knowledge that you are working to save as many animals as possible from this horrible fate!
      Activism can be thankless work mostly but that is normal Ed gets flame too he just has a lot of vegan subs so the flame gets drowned out.
      Sending all my positive energy your way, much love we are strong together.

    • @rasputozen
      @rasputozen 3 роки тому +1

      @@GoVeganForTheAnimal Great encouragement! ^_^

    • @rosabscura
      @rosabscura 3 роки тому +1

      Ew

  • @JustinViola
    @JustinViola 3 роки тому +10

    thank you for using parts of the 'promised neverland' anime.
    I swear it's literally the best anime when it comes to veganism.
    like with 'Parasyte' you can draw a lot of parallels with carnism in our society but 'promised neverland' you cant even deny one bit that this is exactly how people treat our non-human cousins in feather and fur. those demons in the anime are the real humans in real life. the first thing people get when they feast on the suffered dismembered corpses of the most innocent is literally heart disease.
    most of humanity are already demons. if those animals would ever form a religion the devil would be depicted in human form, no doubt. and humans have the audacity to talk about love and peace. how very ironic and pathetically and depressingly ignorant and hypocritical.

  • @echodeep1653
    @echodeep1653 2 роки тому +6

    a qr code in r/place led to this

  • @bogdanbuturuga4972
    @bogdanbuturuga4972 Рік тому +1

    Thanks a lot for this video! One question please: Let's say someone has a cat and decides to become vegan for ethical reasons. As far as I know cats need animal products such as dairy and meat to survive. How could he reconcile his responsability to feed his cat adequately with his belief that he should not support the exploitation of the other animals (that would become his cat's food)?

    • @Roos.H
      @Roos.H Рік тому

      I think this is interesting because cats are naturally born carnivors and hunters, but since a lot of people keep them confined in their home all the time, they are out of their natural habitat. I guess you could say its vegan to let a cat hunt themselves. But of course they are less safe outdoors and the bird population is at danger as well. (In the end i think keeping a cat isnt going to be completely vegan both ways.)

    • @Teneab
      @Teneab Рік тому

      Cats are naturally carnivorous however it is possible to give them vegan cat food that is specially supplemented. If you get vegan cat food, please google and make sure that the cat food you buy exceeds the AAFCO (The Association of American Feed Control Officials) or FEDIAF (European Pet Food Industry Federation) standards. An example of a vegan cat food brand like this is Benevo. If a vegan cat food just states on their website they have enough amino acids but don't state that they abide by any standards DO NOT BUY IT, multiple studies have shown that they regularly lie and don't meet any standards.

  • @dori4903
    @dori4903 2 роки тому +14

    Here from r/place LMAOO

  • @ilovesustainableenergy9563
    @ilovesustainableenergy9563 3 роки тому +14

    It's so disgusting the way we humans treat other animals. We treat them like literal objects and commodities.

    • @alexk3469
      @alexk3469 3 роки тому

      Is it disgusting when lions eat other animals to survive ?

    • @ilovesustainableenergy9563
      @ilovesustainableenergy9563 3 роки тому +2

      @@alexk3469 dude lions also eat babies, sniff each others butts as a greeting and rip into live animals with their teeth eating them alive. if you wanna live your life by a lions behavioural standards/ethics be my guest. you'll end up locked up pretty soon.

    • @ilovesustainableenergy9563
      @ilovesustainableenergy9563 3 роки тому +2

      and as you said lions are in a survival situation, unlike the majority of humans in the developed world who can thrive on a plant based diet.

    • @alexk3469
      @alexk3469 3 роки тому

      @@ilovesustainableenergy9563 what type of sick comment is that lions are literally made to eat meat to survive so your saying they should die just for animals sakes you’ve realised what I’ve said is true and your trying to justify it to not feel bad for not eating meat

    • @ilovesustainableenergy9563
      @ilovesustainableenergy9563 3 роки тому +1

      @@alexk3469 lol, nice strawman argument there. i never said that. obviously lions are obligate carnivores.

  • @HunterBelkiran
    @HunterBelkiran 3 роки тому +7

    The animations are so cool. Nice video, Ed!

  • @DeviDalyYoga
    @DeviDalyYoga 6 місяців тому

    So much good stuff packed into this video. Need to watch it again and take notes!

  • @rasputozen
    @rasputozen 3 роки тому +4

    Fantastic, Ed! Top quality as usual!

  • @crystalkeeper1063
    @crystalkeeper1063 2 роки тому +6

    Anyone here from r/place?

  • @gokaytaspnar1355
    @gokaytaspnar1355 2 роки тому +17

    r/place
    Thank you for sharing this

  • @lukashan4242
    @lukashan4242 2 роки тому +7

    We come from r/place ma g 🔥🔥

  • @KatieBadenhorst
    @KatieBadenhorst 3 роки тому +49

    Ed dropping facts for 10 minutes straight 💪

    • @GoVeganForTheAnimal
      @GoVeganForTheAnimal 3 роки тому +4

      Just enough time to monetize the vid so he can funnel that spicy income into helping animals more. Legendary

    • @leonardodtc1493
      @leonardodtc1493 3 роки тому

      @@GoVeganForTheAnimal isn't that what UA-cam is about?So what it Dosent cost us anything

    • @GoVeganForTheAnimal
      @GoVeganForTheAnimal 3 роки тому +2

      @@leonardodtc1493 yeah I was saying it as a positive thing. Clearly Ed uses a large part of his income to help animals so I'm happy it is monetized

  • @josephcraig8807
    @josephcraig8807 2 роки тому +11

    Ok wait this is also in r/place???

  • @ivanak7149
    @ivanak7149 3 роки тому +5

    Amazing stuff. Loads of love to everyone who is on board with this message ❤️

  • @milukas4
    @milukas4 2 роки тому +13

    R/place

  • @TadejTodorovic
    @TadejTodorovic 3 роки тому +7

    Amazing as always, Ed!

  • @Efrendo
    @Efrendo 3 роки тому +13

    I love that firefighter that saved that aloe vera plant. What a hero.

  • @ecemcty8466
    @ecemcty8466 3 роки тому +79

    If only everybody watched this video

    • @じゃみっと
      @じゃみっと 3 роки тому +3

      I agree, but some carnist dorks still don't get it.

    • @bilgeakar2516
      @bilgeakar2516 3 роки тому +4

      just imagine.. wish it had all language’s subtitles and put on every channel on tv...

    • @georgewashingtom6516
      @georgewashingtom6516 3 роки тому

      @@じゃみっと I've watched Ed's videos for over two years and I will always enjoy tasty meat.

    • @じゃみっと
      @じゃみっと 3 роки тому +1

      @@georgewashingtom6516 Meat eaters and kiddie fiddlers take advantage of the powerless

    • @bullcogs7975
      @bullcogs7975 3 роки тому

      @@じゃみっと vegans dont get it animals food simple

  • @nicholasharvey7039
    @nicholasharvey7039 2 роки тому +9

    POV: you’re here because of r/place

  • @identityanonymous7715
    @identityanonymous7715 9 місяців тому +1

    "Free Range"
    "Cage Free"
    "Grass Fed"
    "Humanely Raised"
    "Compassionate
    Farming”
    "All Natural"
    These gentle-sounding phrases are used by the meat, dairy and restaurant industries to make you feel better about buying their products.

  • @tebs2
    @tebs2 3 роки тому +4

    Beautiful work!! Text, narrative, animation, soundtrack.. 👌🏼 thanks for everything you do to animals 💚

  • @expl1c1t6
    @expl1c1t6 2 роки тому +10

    r/place?

  • @yogibairagi6354
    @yogibairagi6354 3 роки тому +13

    "The Promised Neverland" reference was great. Everyone should watch it.

    • @butterflyphil9150
      @butterflyphil9150 3 роки тому +4

      I was looking for a comment talking about this!! It's one of my favorites and I think it's a great reverse depiction of our society. Now, I don't know if it was purposely written like that or what, but I think it's really interesting to see how upset, or heartbroken even, people were to see those kids litterally getting bred and raised to be food to a "superior" lifeform but we do the exact same thing. And we come to find out those said lifeforms weren't even as superior as we thought. But I find it hypocritical that people feel that hatred and disgust towards the demons and the mothers, scientists and anyone in that society helping the exploitation and killing of those children but go to eat Burger King right after? And we also come to find out the demons actually needed those children to remain their state. But yes, I love that show so much, even if it wasn't purposely written to be an attack at our society and hypocrisy, I still think it's brilliant and advice everyone to watch it. (Just remembered i have a Promised Neverland pfp and username lol)

  • @odsunrize
    @odsunrize 2 роки тому +11

    here from r/place after it ended

  • @weddingdjrobsoundz1042
    @weddingdjrobsoundz1042 3 роки тому +19

    You outdid yourself again as usual. The way you phrase responses to carnist objections is just so beautiful and watertight to me. Thank you!

  • @prathibham.r.5963
    @prathibham.r.5963 3 роки тому +28

    At the beginning of my vegan journey I tried to find a possible logical reason to not get into veganism for that I used to read and watch a lot of works! Even the arguments of vegan haters but the more I read the more I understood that veganism is the way! And you helped me to get rid of agonies to an extend thanks a lot! ❤️

    • @GoVeganForTheAnimal
      @GoVeganForTheAnimal 3 роки тому +5

      At the beginning of mine I knew it was wrong I was just a lazy passionless selfish person but I learned to grow and now I try to make up for my past by sharing my journey with others.

    • @Lazyspaceout
      @Lazyspaceout 3 роки тому

      What about all those alternatives like food to taste like meat that are made in factories or that soy is cause for a large part of the rainforest deforestation, or that even plant agriculture, destruction of soil composition, or pesticide mess with wild life?

  • @Skverry
    @Skverry 2 роки тому +8

    Found this on r/place QR code

  • @bauabh
    @bauabh 2 роки тому +12

    Great video. Been addicted to your vids after your latest milk movie was recommended. I'm a vegetarian that occasionally eats eggs but will try veganism again. I had already tried it 2 yrs back but didn't do it keeping my nutrition in mind which made me weak , ultimately making me quit. This time , hopefully I'll be smarter,plan my meals properly and be vegan in the long run. Thank you so much for your contribution,also that really touching movie - milk

    • @boonjabby
      @boonjabby Рік тому +1

      As much as I've been told by vegans, as long as you try to reduce suffering as far as reasonable or practicable you are a vegan. You are trying. Don't lose hope. Every step is a opportunity to do right :)

    • @bauabh
      @bauabh Рік тому +2

      @@boonjabby Thanks for the positive message. I went vegan 6 months back and going great. Hopefully I'll be vegan for life ☺️

    • @wokery
      @wokery Рік тому +1

      ​@@bauabhthat's awesome!

  • @MukulVyas5
    @MukulVyas5 3 роки тому +11

    Great video Ed. Also, if people argue that killing plants is morally the same as killing animals, is killing plants morally the same as killing humans too, since humans are animals ? And biologically humans are closer to animals than plants. So if killing animals is morally the same as killing plants, so is killing humans.

    • @maddybelo
      @maddybelo 3 роки тому

      Well, unfortunately, Ed is actually pro-choice when it comes to the abortion argument, so he is apparently ok with the killing of innocent and sentient beings. In a debate he had, he justified abortion because of overpopulation, but then mentioned the injustice that happens when pregnant cows are slaughtered leaving their calves to die a slow and painful death in the womb. I find it a bit hypocritical that he is pro-life for all the animals, except his own species. Live chicks being run through a macerator is wrong, but tearing babies from the womb limb by limb is fine? I’m vegan myself, due to a lot of the work Ed has done. But I’m horrified that he has this standpoint on abortion. How can he morally justify that? It doesn’t add up.

    • @MukulVyas5
      @MukulVyas5 3 роки тому

      @@maddybelo I think he's pro-choice until sentience and the ability to feel pain in the foetus is reached.

    • @ellensirca9915
      @ellensirca9915 2 роки тому +1

      Wow, this is a great point. I have never thought of it like this even though majority of people who make the argument of connecting plants to animals mostly do it I think to troll and to get a vegan to stop talking to them

    • @ellensirca9915
      @ellensirca9915 2 роки тому

      @@maddybelo I think that it might be like myself pro-life when it comes to my own body but pro-choice when it comes to the legality of abortion. The way to make a change in the society I believe is through changing the way that people think and providing opportunities for people to make them morally superior choice. I can support pro life bye wishing or aiming my focus on organizations that will support mothers who do not wish to care for their children, I don’t think the solution like many people who claim to be pro-life is to read people of their ability to do something they willSomethings they will do anyways behind closed doors

  • @SimonFlames
    @SimonFlames 3 роки тому +6

    This video is fantastic.
    Congrats to the whole team

  • @f.s.4879
    @f.s.4879 2 роки тому +8

    r/place brought me here

  • @matthewnbg2096
    @matthewnbg2096 2 роки тому +6

    Who's here from R/place.

  • @farisadel12
    @farisadel12 2 роки тому +17

    There are 3 types of people here:
    1-Those who searched for this video
    2-Those who got recommended this video
    3-Thse who came here from the QR code in r/place

  • @deepakpatel8773
    @deepakpatel8773 2 роки тому +4

    The QR code on r/place brought me here.