Your english are just fine Rasmus, thanks for spending the effort to show this gem. There are not may detailed videos on the HBX out there, hopefully you'll fix this. Or, well, don't fix this, cause then everyone will want a CAZ......!
Thanks allot my friend. I'm glad to hear it's not just Danlish 😅 - I will make some more content. And do a full tour when it's done. It do have some nice features 😍
@than_vg Cazeneuve lathes are well known premium lathes all over mainland Europe, Japan and rest of Asia, and in Latin America. All over world, but not in English speaking countries. I guess thats main reason of the lack of English language YT content. IIRC Cazeneuve had factories (in addition of France) in Brazil and Japan.
I got a DeValliere H140E Toolroom lathe that is also French made. It is quite similar to this one & I really love it. It is extremely rigid and accurate & the design has hundreds of well though out features. Documentation is a little hard to find, but it is worth the trouble. I switched the control system for a VFD & added a DRO. It's nearly perfect. Good luck with your Cazeneuve!
Are you sûre ? I had a de Valliere for 28 years. . Now I have 3 cazeneuve HBX and HBY. Except the tailstock, these lathes are very different. De Valliere have a spindle gearbox, HBX and HBY lathe have mechanical variators. De Valliere use only common solutions, Cazeneuve uses specific solutions. For example the de Valliere spindle have a camlock D1-4 nose, the 360 HBX have a 360;HBX special noze. The 590 HBX and HBY have the same noze than HB 500, 575 thats a special Cazeneuve noze. You can change feed when a 360 is running. It's impossible with a de Valliere. When you are making a thread, you can use the lathe stops 4 at least with the Cazeneuve. If you do this with a de Valliere, you will break it. De Valliere do not exist any more. Cazeneuve sells new spare parts for the old HBX 360 and 500, 575, 590 and 725 lathes.
@@TRDeveloppementI believe few HBX 360s were made with camlock spindle. To some sources Philips company in Netherlands wanted their lathes with camlock. Impossible to find, and maybe not one exist anymore.
They were made with Camlock. I know a few with camlock But most are with Cazeneuves own And, it's super nice they are still in business. AND... They answer with quote same day. Some manufacturers could learn from them 😍😊💪
@@OmeMachining Great that you reached Cazeneuve company already. Good luck making your lathe like new again. Its crazy fast and rigid for its size. We have many HB 500 and 575 here in Finland, but they are different animals. Not much HBX here.
Good looking lathe…if you need some help with variator fell free to ask because I change them in the past. You should check way wipers too I don’t agree with hidraulic seals being negative…if we adopt some preventive maintenance and change them and one good quality oil they will last several years
Thats coolest big toolroom lathe there is. 😊 Cazeneuve company still exist, and at least seals should be available. There was lot of those made. Really sorry for transportation damage.
I had a small H.E.S lathe for a couple years so I know all about the "French" factor, it was a good lathe for a small engine lathe but had to go when I bought a larger English machine. The French have built very high quality machine tools but unfortunately most are seldom seen here in the UK. The Cazeneuve looks to be packed full of useful features but this means its also extremely complicated, shame they damaged it in transport.
Same here 😊 English made are more common. I've owned several. And has still some. But they can't compete with Cazeneuve. But they are still great machines. And I've enjoyed every hour on them 😊
Ti faccio notare che il carrino è montato sul trasversale con una coda di rondine, se si sposa iil carrino (compaund) verso l'interno, lo si può anche usare per torniture sferiche
I will too state that your English is just fine. You have nice Danish accent. Take courage from Finns. Most here know English, but our pronounciation is, well you have heard Finnish rally and F1 drivers. 😅 We dont actually care how our English sounds. We know grammar and we speak an fenno ugri language as our mother tongue, so we wont apologize anyone. We speak "Rally English" proudly. If want couple laughs, just YT search term.
@@melgross the spindle nose is very close to the front bearing. Some lathes has a rather long stick-out from bearing to the mounting taper. This will effect rigidity
@@OmeMachining not really. None of this mounts extend more than about an inch and a half for medium sized lathes and it doesn’t matter for larger ones. These mounts are there because that work very well and have been in use for many decades. These proprietary mounts are used because they’re cheaper, not because they’re better.
@@melgross every mm away from the fixing point (bearing) will get a loss in rigidity. Ofc its not much. But it will be different than a shorter spindle. The DIN 5522 do have quite a stick-out. The downside of this Cazeneuve spindle is, they are harder to replicate/make and can be very difficult to remove. A Camlock for instance will be easier to remove.
Your english are just fine Rasmus, thanks for spending the effort to show this gem. There are not may detailed videos on the HBX out there, hopefully you'll fix this. Or, well, don't fix this, cause then everyone will want a CAZ......!
Thanks allot my friend. I'm glad to hear it's not just Danlish 😅 - I will make some more content. And do a full tour when it's done. It do have some nice features 😍
@than_vg Cazeneuve lathes are well known premium lathes all over mainland Europe, Japan and rest of Asia, and in Latin America. All over world, but not in English speaking countries. I guess thats main reason of the lack of English language YT content. IIRC Cazeneuve had factories (in addition of France) in Brazil and Japan.
I got a DeValliere H140E Toolroom lathe that is also French made. It is quite similar to this one & I really love it. It is extremely rigid and accurate & the design has hundreds of well though out features. Documentation is a little hard to find, but it is worth the trouble. I switched the control system for a VFD & added a DRO. It's nearly perfect. Good luck with your Cazeneuve!
Are you sûre ?
I had a de Valliere for 28 years. .
Now I have 3 cazeneuve HBX and HBY. Except the tailstock, these lathes are very different. De Valliere have a spindle gearbox, HBX and HBY lathe have mechanical variators. De Valliere use only common solutions, Cazeneuve uses specific solutions. For example the de Valliere spindle have a camlock D1-4 nose, the 360 HBX have a 360;HBX special noze. The 590 HBX and HBY have the same noze than HB 500, 575 thats a special Cazeneuve noze.
You can change feed when a 360 is running. It's impossible with a de Valliere.
When you are making a thread, you can use the lathe stops 4 at least with the Cazeneuve. If you do this with a de Valliere, you will break it.
De Valliere do not exist any more.
Cazeneuve sells new spare parts for the old HBX 360 and 500, 575, 590 and 725 lathes.
@@TRDeveloppementI believe few HBX 360s were made with camlock spindle. To some sources Philips company in Netherlands wanted their lathes with camlock. Impossible to find, and maybe not one exist anymore.
They were made with Camlock. I know a few with camlock
But most are with Cazeneuves own
And, it's super nice they are still in business. AND... They answer with quote same day. Some manufacturers could learn from them 😍😊💪
@@OmeMachining Great that you reached Cazeneuve company already. Good luck making your lathe like new again. Its crazy fast and rigid for its size. We have many HB 500 and 575 here in Finland, but they are different animals. Not much HBX here.
Good looking lathe…if you need some help with variator fell free to ask because I change them in the past. You should check way wipers too
I don’t agree with hidraulic seals being negative…if we adopt some preventive maintenance and change them and one good quality oil they will last several years
Thats coolest big toolroom lathe there is. 😊 Cazeneuve company still exist, and at least seals should be available. There was lot of those made. Really sorry for transportation damage.
Thanks allot. Yes it's a great tool room lathe. And for a good price compared to what Schaublin and others sell for
Great. Do Link the name of the cleaning agents used. Thanks
I will. They are CB100 and Chante Clair. I will make a video with them soon
I had a small H.E.S lathe for a couple years so I know all about the "French" factor, it was a good lathe for a small engine lathe but had to go when I bought a larger English machine. The French have built very high quality machine tools but unfortunately most are seldom seen here in the UK.
The Cazeneuve looks to be packed full of useful features but this means its also extremely complicated, shame they damaged it in transport.
Same here 😊 English made are more common. I've owned several. And has still some. But they can't compete with Cazeneuve. But they are still great machines. And I've enjoyed every hour on them 😊
you're killing me
Ti faccio notare che il carrino è montato sul trasversale con una coda di rondine, se si sposa iil carrino (compaund) verso l'interno, lo si può anche usare per torniture sferiche
Nice to know. Thanks allot 👍😊
I will too state that your English is just fine. You have nice Danish accent. Take courage from Finns. Most here know English, but our pronounciation is, well you have heard Finnish rally and F1 drivers. 😅 We dont actually care how our English sounds. We know grammar and we speak an fenno ugri language as our mother tongue, so we wont apologize anyone. We speak "Rally English" proudly. If want couple laughs, just YT search term.
bonjour très bon tour . pour le faux plateaux tu mandrin tu vas t'amuser pour trouver .
Cazeneuve a toujours un service pieces de rechange.
I’m surprised any companies are using proprietary spindle mounts these days. That would turn me off.
Yes it's nice to use standard sizes. But this actually makes good sense, and are superior in some ways 😊
@@OmeMachining how is that?
@@melgross the spindle nose is very close to the front bearing. Some lathes has a rather long stick-out from bearing to the mounting taper. This will effect rigidity
@@OmeMachining not really. None of this mounts extend more than about an inch and a half for medium sized lathes and it doesn’t matter for larger ones. These mounts are there because that work very well and have been in use for many decades. These proprietary mounts are used because they’re cheaper, not because they’re better.
@@melgross every mm away from the fixing point (bearing) will get a loss in rigidity. Ofc its not much. But it will be different than a shorter spindle. The DIN 5522 do have quite a stick-out.
The downside of this Cazeneuve spindle is, they are harder to replicate/make and can be very difficult to remove. A Camlock for instance will be easier to remove.