@Acrilyco Peronista really? do you have more info on that it is kinda sad to hear. are gentoo guys just going to casually drop openrc and use systemd? and what about other systems that rely on elogind and eudev?
It should be mentioned that Void Linux is not hostile towards systemd. They used to use systemd but switched to runit because systemd simply does not support musl at all.
I was literally looking at your channel and videos when this dropped. And whats even wilder is I was looking for tutorials on runit for my Void install
I prefer systemd on friendly desktop distros like Ubuntu. For running Linux on embedded or specialized hardware, though, systemd just complicates things.
@@piecaruso97 386 was unfortunately dropped since long back, but I agree. If you pick the right userspace you can use a pretty modern kernel on old hardware.
Always nice to see Void Linux getting some attention, shame that it always seems to be install videos. I installed Void headless and then added a few things like DWM and quite a few other customizations. It wasn't easy (I'm not an expert) since I had to build from source and get all the required devel libs. Using Void Linux I learned a few things, more than you normally would using any other distro... Using Trim on SSDs for example. I also love the Void Linux handbook. It does not hold your hand or show how to do anything, it simply provides you with the information you need to learn (or to figure out) how to do it yourself.
musl might be better for embedded devices but for a normal desktop user glibc is much better. Most applications in GNU/Linux are built torwards glibc because after all it's called GNU/Linux with an emphasis on GNU so the glibc is the official C library.
I remember listening to a presentation from an Alpine Linux developer about MUSL. He mentioned that every time MUSL support is added to a piece of software, that software becomes objectively better coded as a result.
@@mr.dingleberry4882 the experience was pretty good however i have since switched not due to anything like a bug or not supporting anything it was great in those regards but the repos are way to slow for xbps i get 1mbps download on arch xbps got around 100kbps just because there repos aren't as fast and there not as large of a project if not for that i might still be on it.
I have an old shit laptop with less than 1 gig of RAM, and void+DWM made it usable, idles around 90MB of RAM. I had to switch to antiX though, because I couldn’t get the wifi working with Void. I see the same level of performance.
Hey Mental Outlaw! I must upfront say that this might not be the place to ask this question but i don't know who to ask and you seem like you really know what you are talking about, with experience over the whole spectrum of Linux systems. So the thing is, I am a sound designer and have found a relationship between simple and clean code(I think) and sound quality. When going from windows/mac to Ubuntu this first became clear. Later I have been installing and messing around with jack etc to see what sounds the best. Recently, I found two major things creating a big step up in sounds quality; The first thing was using Tiling window managers(i3) and the second was trying Artix with OpenRC instead of Systemd, I can only guess this is because there is less simultaneous processing that have to be done and therefore less noise(the computer can focus on the rendering of the sound). I also tried the sound when starting apps without a window manager(directly in xorg i guess, as a kiosk system sort of..) and it sound very good, but not doable workflow tbh:) I dont focus on the ease of use that much at this point but reaper and pure data needs to work. It feels like I came to an and end point where Arch(systemd free), gentoo and void are interesting options to look into, am I right or would you point me in a different direction(I guess alpine is out because of musl together with DAWs?)? Also, I only used "normal" linux kernel, and I can only imagine having a custom kernel for my sound apps would not only bring better sound but also better performance and stability(is Gentoo the way to go....)? Sorry for the massive and maybe misplaced question. Maybe i can DM you about it? Thank you for a great channel!!!! Have a great day! /Niclas
@@evanjrowley or even better, make your own layout. i've switched keyboards 3 times, before i could even get to 100wpm. settled on this handmade one and works like a charm :P
I remember having a good time on Void, I think I used it for about a year until I distrohopped to idk, Fedora or Debian and pretty much haven't looked back at Void, it's pretty nice tho
can you elaborate on this a bit? Will gaming on void be a constant battle? Or is updating to a custom kernel a simple enough process that it's not a big deal?
@@human__________ As long as you pick the glibc version, gaming on Void will be no different than your current distro. No even remotely mainstream distro ships with a kernel that has fsync (or futex2 as it's known now) patched in. It's just that on e.g. Arch you can just pacman -Syu linux-zen to get it, on Void you end up compiling the kernel yourself. However, this is something that only affects some games running via Proton, but the performance difference can be the difference between a stuttering mess and flawless smoothness.
Ps. after 2 years they reduced support of various DEs, so only XFCE, due to testing reasons. However, you still should be able to get the base image and install mate, cinnamon, lxde or whatever you want.
what i dont understand is , what can actually be the drawbacks of using musl instead of glibc. is it ONLY about when i make/compile a program from source on that system? that it could be some incompatibility arising? or can there be problems also during normal use , or when i simply install programs via XBPS
software binaries not in the repo might have issues, especially with proprietary software like steam, and proprietary drivers, some games doesnt work either because they require glibc or because it needs 32 bit libraries which void musl doesnt support
USSLE! That's how it's pronounced?? I can't believe I've been under the impression that it was pronounced more like muesli, but cut short! This makes a lot more sense...
Kenny we could see in your reflections that you weren't dressed properly tsk tsk tsk. Once I installed Void in virtual box myself and I can confirm your findings. I am still sticking to Linux Mint Cinnamon and probably will for ever but Void would be my goto distro otherwise.
how is gaming w/ musl.. DXVK, wine, proton, steam, lutris, NVIDIA driver..... ? If you are interested in having a GNU free OS.. like mentioned in the beginning.. Toybox got you covered.. or even busybox
I've used it since this video came out. Until now. I'm a learning person so of course I was trying to get the most minimal system possible. In that mission I tried to install ubase and sbase. But apparently Void Linux really likes using sed with GNU only commands. They also abandoned LibreSSL which you could see in this video when he updated the machine. It's just sad that they slowly are making it worse. So now I'm creating my own distro. With a suckless mindset. BearSSL with every suckless utility and the Linux Kernel. Should be good enough. Yes. It's possible to create an entire install with only suckless utilitys. Since ubase contains getty and all that required stuff. It should boot pretty fast. Though the hardest part will be customizing the Linux Kernel since... I've never gotten my custom built one to boot. Always get some weird errors. Like it not supporting btrfs. I don't use btrfs.
Hands down best distro for an old Thinkpad, unfortunately they don't support musl for the 32 bit variant. I just can't afford to let my system be bogged down with soystem d and bloatware, for performance and memory reasons.
I don't think it's supported by their installer, but project-trident's fork of void-installer uses iirc btrfs with full disk encryption or maybe ZFS, not sure
Hey, so I built a kvm to finally get rid of windows from running on bare metal. Running windows ltsc in the vm. Issue is how do I make sure to make my vrm undetected? I can’t seem to find a way to change the network adapter, and drive names. Using virtio. All of them say RedHat disk or network adapter. You can’t seem to use vendor for Ethernet adapter or disks. Thanks
I tried to install a desktopless Void two times, because I want bspwm. Everytime the shell is unable to change the keyboard region properly, the second time I had random log lines printed in the shell even if I do nothing ! Alpine install was a much better experience even if it requires more steps. Alpine basis just looks better, even for building a desktop setup. And also the package manager is easier to use.
As a user, not a developer, why would you use musl instead of glibc on a normal modern system, when glibc is tried and true and has gone through a lot more development time and fixes?
My void linux base install running no DE, only i3 with xorg and light dm only running alacritty uses 200mb of ram. And I'm displaying to two monitors. Sadly I'm not on musl, I chose glibc to be able to play a few games on steam
Gonna get an older computer soon...Void Linux looks really interesting, but Gentoo has piqued my interest for a while now. Not sure yet which I'll go with
Dude my gaming pc took hours to install gentoo and I didn't even finish the install i went halfway in and just quit because it was taking way to long and im not waiting days to have my pc setup
Gnome is probably the best for adapting for touch interface, but you need a bunch of shell extensions to make it workable. Besides those I use to get a more Windows-like interface, I use an improved on-screen keyboard, and one that puts a button in the tray to activate OSK accessibility setting without having to go through the settings app. Then it's just down to whether or not your touchscreen has good driver support. Many of them don't work particularly well (or at all) with Wayland, so you'll probably need to stick to X. Also if it doesn't work out of the box, you'll very likely need a binary driver (ick)...
Reporting in. Installed on Thinkpad X230 with similar if not the same SSD. Installation took exactly the same amount of time. For me the installer seemed to automatically set the swap partition to a swap fs.
I tried the musl version but so much daily software I use just wouldn't werk with it, I already have enough fun fixing compilation errors because of LibreSSL
And in response to "anything that's not supported by musl is bloat" I suppose you don't comprehend 95% of software for linux is built against glibc and most programmers would consider "nonstandard" glibc features standard
Firejail doesn't really work. Nor does swap encryption if you use /etc/crypttab. Also i had to remount proc manually to get hidepid=2 to work. The last thing might have been fixed by now, the other two I ran in again recently. Edit: Also the documentation doesn't mention anymore that some mainboards need the efi file to be: ../boot/BOOTX64.efi or it won't show up in boot selection. It did before.
isn't it possible to run steam via docker or flatpak on musl version? i distinctly recall someone saying that void supports that for certain apps that require glibc. but i could be wrong.
Just tested Void and come back to Arch, no Firefox developer edition, and dont founded it as fast as almost says compare to arch... i will probably give it anorher try later
“it’s not based on arch or debian, it’s just based” so real
I LOVE THIS QUOTE SO MUCH
sounds like a XAVIER RENEGADE ANGEL quote
@flim looking at void linux pony stuff and twitter, the dev that disappeared probably became part of the 41%
@flim that's disappointing void linux seems pretty good i hope they can get some more developers to help them
came out of nowhere hahaha
"It's not based on arch or debian...
I T ' S J U S T B A S E D"
LOOOOL
based? based on what?
@@thechadbuddha B A S E D
@@thechadbuddha can't mossad the assad kind of based we're talking about
LOL 😂 😆
If you check, void is so based that you can even install gnome without systemd, because it uses two packages that just emulate it's behaviour
Thats actually dope as hell
Lmao
This is not a void thing, most distros can do this
Two packages = elogind and eudev
(most non-systemd distros include them, btw, including their creators Guix and Gentoo).
@Acrilyco Peronista really? do you have more info on that it is kinda sad to hear. are gentoo guys just going to casually drop openrc and use systemd? and what about other systems that rely on elogind and eudev?
You even deep faked the reflection on the thinkpad. Great job luke
neofetch is such an essential package.
I mean, how would you complete the installation ritual without it?
It should be mentioned that Void Linux is not hostile towards systemd. They used to use systemd but switched to runit because systemd simply does not support musl at all.
I was literally looking at your channel and videos when this dropped. And whats even wilder is I was looking for tutorials on runit for my Void install
You’re the irl protagonist
Let me see your email.
I could pdf ..... Instructions...m
You have to know that void runs very well on old hardware and even has a ppc big endian port, i have seen many people running it on old macs
Even the Wii U :)
this is what happens when you don't use systemd
@@rafradeki Exactly, linux on it's own is very lightweight, the simpler linux distros run on stuff like an intel 386
I prefer systemd on friendly desktop distros like Ubuntu. For running Linux on embedded or specialized hardware, though, systemd just complicates things.
@@piecaruso97 386 was unfortunately dropped since long back, but I agree. If you pick the right userspace you can use a pretty modern kernel on old hardware.
Instead of compiling from source, you should create templates and push those templates to the void-linux repo and get them added to the repository
the void is so all consuming not 1 particle of glow exists inside of it
Learning a lot from your videos man, Void looks absolutely fantastic and a great equal between Arch and Gentoo install-wise.
Always nice to see Void Linux getting some attention, shame that it always seems to be install videos. I installed Void headless and then added a few things like DWM and quite a few other customizations. It wasn't easy (I'm not an expert) since I had to build from source and get all the required devel libs. Using Void Linux I learned a few things, more than you normally would using any other distro... Using Trim on SSDs for example. I also love the Void Linux handbook. It does not hold your hand or show how to do anything, it simply provides you with the information you need to learn (or to figure out) how to do it yourself.
9:46 Note that xcheckrestart doesn't restart anything itself, it just tells you what needs to be restarted.
no systemd and gnu
truly sigma operating system
"its just based" is the new "it just works"
Can you make some more Void content? Seems super interesting. Thanks
Void just said
"I do not conform"
Let go your earthly tether
Enter the void
Empty, and become wind
Mental Outlaw: *Posts a video about another linux flavor*
The viewers: Where we're dropping?
I use this OS on my Raspberry Pi. It boots insanely fast and is a great, simple embedded distro.
5:39 that is some banger music
hanging onto this... going to start building my own Kernel. Gonna name it ColonelBased...
...pushes up glasses and mouthbreathes...
We love the distros
Yo dawg
musl might be better for embedded devices but for a normal desktop user glibc is much better. Most applications in GNU/Linux are built torwards glibc because after all it's called GNU/Linux with an emphasis on GNU so the glibc is the official C library.
I remember listening to a presentation from an Alpine Linux developer about MUSL. He mentioned that every time MUSL support is added to a piece of software, that software becomes objectively better coded as a result.
@@breakpoint4869 musl is slowet
I'm definitely going to use this for how efficiently it uses the memory. I'm a longtime Debian user and it seems I might finally switch.
I honestly might used this next switching from manjaro this seems like one of the most based distros i have seen in a while
I finally switched to it tho i forgot about this video or this comment but i installed it recently switching from arch
@@killertigergaming6762 how is the experience so far?
@@mr.dingleberry4882 the experience was pretty good however i have since switched not due to anything like a bug or not supporting anything it was great in those regards but the repos are way to slow for xbps i get 1mbps download on arch xbps got around 100kbps just because there repos aren't as fast and there not as large of a project if not for that i might still be on it.
void linux + dwm = based
yes, its time to rice dwm again.
wayland is good, you should give it a try
@61 Cygni wayland is pretty based, way better than running X
@@ribosomerocker I would use wayland if more apps supported it *cough* intellij *cough*
I have an old shit laptop with less than 1 gig of RAM, and void+DWM made it usable, idles around 90MB of RAM. I had to switch to antiX though, because I couldn’t get the wifi working with Void. I see the same level of performance.
Do you ever grab a coffee when you're installing/compiling stuff in your videos, or do you always wait?
We're based, we don't drink coffee.
_wtf did i just say_
@@purplep3466 based comment
loving the old school song
Hey Mental Outlaw! I must upfront say that this might not be the place to ask this question but i don't know who to ask and you seem like you really know what you are talking about, with experience over the whole spectrum of Linux systems.
So the thing is, I am a sound designer and have found a relationship between simple and clean code(I think) and sound quality. When going from windows/mac to Ubuntu this first became clear. Later I have been installing and messing around with jack etc to see what sounds the best. Recently, I found two major things creating a big step up in sounds quality; The first thing was using Tiling window managers(i3) and the second was trying Artix with OpenRC instead of Systemd, I can only guess this is because there is less simultaneous processing that have to be done and therefore less noise(the computer can focus on the rendering of the sound). I also tried the sound when starting apps without a window manager(directly in xorg i guess, as a kiosk system sort of..) and it sound very good, but not doable workflow tbh:) I dont focus on the ease of use that much at this point but reaper and pure data needs to work. It feels like I came to an and end point where Arch(systemd free), gentoo and void are interesting options to look into, am I right or would you point me in a different direction(I guess alpine is out because of musl together with DAWs?)? Also, I only used "normal" linux kernel, and I can only imagine having a custom kernel for my sound apps would not only bring better sound but also better performance and stability(is Gentoo the way to go....)?
Sorry for the massive and maybe misplaced question. Maybe i can DM you about it?
Thank you for a great channel!!!!
Have a great day!
/Niclas
Hey any updates on this ?
>calls DVORAK "high functioning"
>uses Void musl on a gm45 Thinkpad
What did he mean by this? 🤔
That Dvorak is even higher up the spectrum than even void musl thinkpad users.
Do both 😎👍
@@evanjrowley or even better, make your own layout. i've switched keyboards 3 times, before i could even get to 100wpm. settled on this handmade one and works like a charm :P
@@francescovolpini ok good for you.
based! commenting for the algorithm
I was literally just looking at your channel and got the notification
This is gonna spund nuts but I was doing the exact same thing haha
I’ve been using arch recently, but void seems really nice, I like the installer a lot too.
I'm jamming out to Flute Salad. Idk if it's the OSRSBeatz remix or what but its banging. 👌
Another void linux vid to consoom
I'm loving the Runescape trap music in these ahahaa
Nice video man!! Keep up the good work!
I remember having a good time on Void, I think I used it for about a year until I distrohopped to idk, Fedora or Debian and pretty much haven't looked back at Void, it's pretty nice tho
The installation music is really nice.
(and yes, I know it was added in postprocessing)
My only real gripe with Void is their hard stance against packaging patched kernels, so getting fsync for Proton takes a bit of work.
can you elaborate on this a bit? Will gaming on void be a constant battle? Or is updating to a custom kernel a simple enough process that it's not a big deal?
@@human__________ As long as you pick the glibc version, gaming on Void will be no different than your current distro. No even remotely mainstream distro ships with a kernel that has fsync (or futex2 as it's known now) patched in. It's just that on e.g. Arch you can just pacman -Syu linux-zen to get it, on Void you end up compiling the kernel yourself. However, this is something that only affects some games running via Proton, but the performance difference can be the difference between a stuttering mess and flawless smoothness.
@@necuz alright, thanks
Came for the Void Linux, stayed for the RuneScape soundtrack.
Based and installed
The runescape music 👍
Also I recommend using the flatpak version of firefox from it due to to drm problems on musl
When the 2 most liked comments are about "It's not based on Arch or Debian, it's just b a s e d", you know you made a good pun
void is one of the very few ppc64 big endian distros with a 64 bit userland, cool stuff.
algo go up
Holy shit dvorak is the default? Never thought that I *wouldn't* have to change my keyboard when installing :P
I thought I just saw the Turin shroud staring into your console window. Spooked me out until I realised there was a person reflected on a monitor
“it’s not based on arch or debian, it’s just based”
based on what?
B A S E D
B A S E D on Mainline
Ps. after 2 years they reduced support of various DEs, so only XFCE, due to testing reasons. However, you still should be able to get the base image and install mate, cinnamon, lxde or whatever you want.
But I LOVE Void Linux!
I come for the runescape music
I just installed void, what the fuck?
9:48 if you would read the docs properly it says it will just print out the processes that need to be restarted
what i dont understand is , what can actually be the drawbacks of using musl instead of glibc. is it ONLY about when i make/compile a program from source on that system? that it could be some incompatibility arising? or can there be problems also during normal use , or when i simply install programs via XBPS
software binaries not in the repo might have issues, especially with proprietary software like steam, and proprietary drivers, some games doesnt work either because they require glibc or because it needs 32 bit libraries which void musl doesnt support
@@ninetysixvoid i see, thank you!!
USSLE! That's how it's pronounced?? I can't believe I've been under the impression that it was pronounced more like muesli, but cut short! This makes a lot more sense...
Kenny we could see in your reflections that you weren't dressed properly tsk tsk tsk. Once I installed Void in virtual box myself and I can confirm your findings. I am still sticking to Linux Mint Cinnamon and probably will for ever but Void would be my goto distro otherwise.
you seem like a very complex individual.
how is gaming w/ musl.. DXVK, wine, proton, steam, lutris, NVIDIA driver..... ? If you are interested in having a GNU free OS.. like mentioned in the beginning.. Toybox got you covered.. or even busybox
I've never heard of this distro but the name is so cool imma try it
I've used it since this video came out. Until now. I'm a learning person so of course I was trying to get the most minimal system possible. In that mission I tried to install ubase and sbase. But apparently Void Linux really likes using sed with GNU only commands. They also abandoned LibreSSL which you could see in this video when he updated the machine. It's just sad that they slowly are making it worse. So now I'm creating my own distro. With a suckless mindset. BearSSL with every suckless utility and the Linux Kernel. Should be good enough. Yes. It's possible to create an entire install with only suckless utilitys. Since ubase contains getty and all that required stuff. It should boot pretty fast. Though the hardest part will be customizing the Linux Kernel since... I've never gotten my custom built one to boot. Always get some weird errors. Like it not supporting btrfs. I don't use btrfs.
Any updates bro ??
5:39 OMG that midi 🤣
Void's "Rosetta Stone" page on the wiki is pure gold
Hands down best distro for an old Thinkpad, unfortunately they don't support musl for the 32 bit variant. I just can't afford to let my system be bogged down with soystem d and bloatware, for performance and memory reasons.
I T 'S J U S T B A S E D
Can you show installing void with full disk encryption 😅😅
I don't think it's supported by their installer, but project-trident's fork of void-installer uses iirc btrfs with full disk encryption or maybe ZFS, not sure
void is great linux distro.
it is on my fully upgraded thinkpad x220. and i cant escape.
Kenny! a bit of a stretch, but will you ever review PostmarketOS?
DAAAAMN THE OSRS BEATS THO
Can you make a similar video but for FreeBSD?
Hey, so I built a kvm to finally get rid of windows from running on bare metal. Running windows ltsc in the vm. Issue is how do I make sure to make my vrm undetected? I can’t seem to find a way to change the network adapter, and drive names. Using virtio. All of them say RedHat disk or network adapter. You can’t seem to use vendor for Ethernet adapter or disks. Thanks
Beware that musl doesn't have multilib, so no games except foss ones.
Wine needs multilib for most software, same as Steam
youmu a cute
based
I tried to install a desktopless Void two times, because I want bspwm. Everytime the shell is unable to change the keyboard region properly, the second time I had random log lines printed in the shell even if I do nothing !
Alpine install was a much better experience even if it requires more steps. Alpine basis just looks better, even for building a desktop setup. And also the package manager is easier to use.
As a user, not a developer, why would you use musl instead of glibc on a normal modern system, when glibc is tried and true and has gone through a lot more development time and fixes?
My void linux base install running no DE, only i3 with xorg and light dm only running alacritty uses 200mb of ram. And I'm displaying to two monitors.
Sadly I'm not on musl, I chose glibc to be able to play a few games on steam
Gonna get an older computer soon...Void Linux looks really interesting, but Gentoo has piqued my interest for a while now. Not sure yet which I'll go with
I don't recommend Gentoo. The long compile times are a pain, especially on slower hardware.
Yeah, don't go with gentoo. Compiling this on old hardware is a real pain. Void runs great on my old old toshiba laptop (200mb ram idle)
Dude my gaming pc took hours to install gentoo and I didn't even finish the install i went halfway in and just quit because it was taking way to long and im not waiting days to have my pc setup
Are there any distros that support tablet interfaces without keyboard and mouse?
Ubuntu with the gnome desktop focuses on touch interface
Gnome is probably the best for adapting for touch interface, but you need a bunch of shell extensions to make it workable. Besides those I use to get a more Windows-like interface, I use an improved on-screen keyboard, and one that puts a button in the tray to activate OSK accessibility setting without having to go through the settings app. Then it's just down to whether or not your touchscreen has good driver support. Many of them don't work particularly well (or at all) with Wayland, so you'll probably need to stick to X. Also if it doesn't work out of the box, you'll very likely need a binary driver (ick)...
Yeah. It's the lack of any right click for surface tablets that gets me.
Reporting in. Installed on Thinkpad X230 with similar if not the same SSD. Installation took exactly the same amount of time. For me the installer seemed to automatically set the swap partition to a swap fs.
Just to mention that you can use start/stop as well in runit.
I can confirm that the bug in the installer where it doesn’t denote the right fstype (yet it just formatted it correctly for you) is still there. lol
I tried the musl version but so much daily software I use just wouldn't werk with it, I already have enough fun fixing compilation errors because of LibreSSL
@@ponirvea Probably. It was a while back the last time I had to modify a project to compile against it.
Yeah I've been using Void Linux on my T450s (and previously T440s) for several years now
And in response to "anything that's not supported by musl is bloat" I suppose you don't comprehend 95% of software for linux is built against glibc and most programmers would consider "nonstandard" glibc features standard
5:55 LoL , best part
Before i switched to gentoo, void was my main distro. Still i make custom imgs on void
Do you have a video where you give your opinion to rpm based distros like centos/rockylinux or fedora?
Firejail doesn't really work. Nor does swap encryption if you use /etc/crypttab. Also i had to remount proc manually to get hidepid=2 to work. The last thing might have been fixed by now, the other two I ran in again recently.
Edit: Also the documentation doesn't mention anymore that some mainboards need the efi file to be: ../boot/BOOTX64.efi or it won't show up in boot selection. It did before.
Linux noob here.. What's wrong with systemd?
more based than this: Alpine
Can you make video about glubc chroot for musl void linux
What keyboard are you typing on? Sounds clacky like it might be a Unicomp and/or IBM Model M.
mpv is the best video player.
Dvorak is bae
It's just based
the installer & partitioning reminds me a lil' of the blackarch process
Absolutely no need to have install music go so hard, but it did
isn't it possible to run steam via docker or flatpak on musl version? i distinctly recall someone saying that void supports that for certain apps that require glibc. but i could be wrong.
What firewall would you use on this? I thought they all needed systemd
Just tested Void and come back to Arch, no Firefox developer edition, and dont founded it as fast as almost says compare to arch... i will probably give it anorher try later
If only void worked on the pinephone
Thanks for that !
I want to like void but I just miss the AUR too much, is there any way to get around that?
Void is Based