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  • Luke doesn’t think students should be taught about Zip folders in school + Luke’s Resume.
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  • @KeManYT
    @KeManYT 7 місяців тому +729

    Hiring luke turns out to be the best decision ever. Luke has single handedly saved LTT several times

    • @JampackGaming707
      @JampackGaming707 7 місяців тому +138

      The hard R bit was the most recent one and I still cringe lol

    • @vinylSummer
      @vinylSummer 7 місяців тому +17

      ​@@JampackGaming707I still laugh about it

    • @ShimonDanilov
      @ShimonDanilov 7 місяців тому +3

      Yes, from Linus

    • @Pleezath
      @Pleezath 7 місяців тому +16

      @@JampackGaming707 It got a bit overblown don't you think?

    • @dennisp8520
      @dennisp8520 7 місяців тому +1

      @@JampackGaming707what is the hard R?

  • @salehs3952
    @salehs3952 7 місяців тому +253

    I had a classmate who typed using only his 2 index fingers, without looking at the keyboard and was one of the fastest 3 typers of the class.

    • @AceTriggerz
      @AceTriggerz 7 місяців тому +3

      what was his WPM

    • @salehs3952
      @salehs3952 7 місяців тому +17

      @@AceTriggerz
      I can't remember. I also have no idea what my current or previous "WPM" is since I'm not being graded on it anymore (;

    • @colinmartin9797
      @colinmartin9797 7 місяців тому +27

      I was doing that when I hurt my hand at work and my boss was like "T-REX typing!" and made fun of me for the rest of the day

    • @faeliyoure9105
      @faeliyoure9105 7 місяців тому +29

      Im 6 finger typist 2 years ago and my wpm is 120. They say 10 fingers is better so I changed it Im 55 wpm right now 😂

    • @sininenblue9161
      @sininenblue9161 7 місяців тому +16

      Proper typing technique doesn't really matter for speed. There are people who only use 1 finger on their right up to 170wpm. The only thing that matters for speed is how much you practice for speed specifically
      proper technique is just there to make sure your wrists stay intact when you're 50+, and as a bonus it gets you to 40-60wpm relatively quickly, which is more than enough for most tasks

  • @OptimalMayhem
    @OptimalMayhem 7 місяців тому +110

    I love Dan making sure Luke wasn't getting cornered when Linux started talking about reading his resume. Good looking out, lol

  • @justanerd414
    @justanerd414 7 місяців тому +320

    Honestly common sense class would probably be far better than any zip file class 😂

    • @brendago4505
      @brendago4505 7 місяців тому +32

      I'm with Luke on this one, my black belt level Google-Fu is exactly how I know a bunch of things and can often fix problems. The first step to fixing any issue is getting good at asking the right questions.

    • @subatomicjamie
      @subatomicjamie 7 місяців тому +1

      yeah, for the woke generation they need it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @TheHammerGuy94
      @TheHammerGuy94 7 місяців тому +10

      @@brendago4505
      We are not expected to know everything. even "experts" are missing some stuff in their profession.
      what we should know is the right way to ask so we can obtain answers.

    • @foldionepapyrus3441
      @foldionepapyrus3441 7 місяців тому +8

      Also have to ask how many operating systems/ programs actually care about ZIP - for the most part OS and programs these days seem to transparently unzip on demand so the zip is treated just as folder anyway.

    • @mikelcampbell6072
      @mikelcampbell6072 7 місяців тому +1

      There Is literally nothing common sense

  • @JacobShepherdEngineer
    @JacobShepherdEngineer 7 місяців тому +17

    "Why am I wearing a headset? What a loser." Said while wearing a headset.

  • @jcorey333
    @jcorey333 7 місяців тому +69

    My typing class was my second least favorite class in junior high, after the gym class where I got bullied. I was not a very good or fast typer at all when I started that class. They had these plastic things that you put over the keyboard and your hands so you can't look at your hands, and I struggled so much with it. I can understand why people wouldn't want to learn how to type "correctly", but as a programmer, I'm definitely glad I did.

    • @shadowseek27
      @shadowseek27 7 місяців тому +6

      I was kinda a shit typed until I started programming, so for me it's the otherway around, I think if you need to type fast you will eventually learn to and if you don't you just don't

    • @bigyang5847
      @bigyang5847 7 місяців тому +3

      I work with machines that make bleeding edge tech(tho I'm a mere devops), and I'm a filthy peck typer. Nobody cares how fast you type. Most of the work you'll be doing in a workday is wait. Wait for build, wait for tests, wait for support.

    • @Collin_J
      @Collin_J 7 місяців тому +4

      All the best typists in elementary school were the ones who played RuneScape 😂. I remember our Touch Typing class in fifth grade had a massive gulf between students who had computer access at home typing at 40wpm or higher, and a lot of students who had to focus to type "ASDFJKL;"

    • @thenayancat8802
      @thenayancat8802 7 місяців тому

      I never learned to touch type properly, but spending a couple of days doing touch type practice after a few years of coding has massively improved my productivity. Especially when you're in the zone, it's just so satisfying to be able to bash out code quickly

    • @FlashySenap
      @FlashySenap 7 місяців тому +1

      wait... this isn't a natural thing for younger generations?
      I mean as a millenial, typing is just second nature as we used computers on the regular. would have figured this is how the genz and forwards way as well, that they would be even faster and more knowlegable about computer stuff... Seeing as computer stuff has a even greater impact in our society!?

  • @ecoomber
    @ecoomber 7 місяців тому +7

    High school computer science teacher here -- Kids come from elementary school and know some "advanced" stuff like algorithms and a bit of computational thinking and maybe some block code in Scratch, etc. But they don't know the useful basics like the difference between when to use Word or PowerPoint, how to use punctuation symbols like brackets or underscores, when to single- or double-click. It's maddening how all these basic skills have been taken over by iPads in the classroom.

  • @TheDavidjakeson
    @TheDavidjakeson 7 місяців тому +10

    "How Google-able is that?" is a legit thing my partner who is a teacher considers when she's planning curriculum. How to look up info and how to spot trash info is way more useful.

  • @LegionIscariot
    @LegionIscariot 7 місяців тому +245

    Luke is right. People love bitching about the younger generation too much. Its always "this generation doesn't know what this is" woop dee doo. And its always stuff that dont really matter. "The younger generation doesn't know what a pager is 😱"
    Every generation has their ignorance.

    • @the_undead
      @the_undead 7 місяців тому +5

      Pagers are just funny to me

    • @UsefullPig
      @UsefullPig 7 місяців тому +16

      My thing is that we're going to keep using compressed files indefinitely. Like it would be pretty cringe not to know what a transmission in a car is and that predates the pager.

    • @fukov3400
      @fukov3400 7 місяців тому +11

      It’s half true. Different areas of computer literacy are down as automation and optimization took manual steps out of the equation. It’s now to the point where the best racer doesn’t need to know one bit how the engine works, if that makes any sense.

    • @shanemitchell477
      @shanemitchell477 7 місяців тому

      I have no ignorance.

    • @the_undead
      @the_undead 7 місяців тому +15

      @@shanemitchell477 I hope you're saying that as a joke, everyone is ignorant about something. Usually a lot more than just one thing.

  • @tietosanakirja
    @tietosanakirja 7 місяців тому +68

    The covid dumbness is so relatable. I remember, when I got it, I was having trouble figuring out how to pay rent, because the invoice was formatted in a non-standard way.
    After that, i was just generally a bit dim. Being in a technical profession, I would stare at my work, not knowing how to do it, and get exhausted trying. All the while, I knew the things weren't overly difficult. I was just a little dim.
    I'm glad I was able to take time off until I got better. It ended up taking months.

    • @colonelk3000
      @colonelk3000 7 місяців тому +8

      Had this also... So demoralising. Luckily my colleagues had experienced similar and were very understanding.

    • @tietosanakirja
      @tietosanakirja 6 місяців тому +2

      Oh boy! I think I caught the millennium plague again... I hope I don't get stupefied again. At least muscle weakness is back...

  • @nyaa
    @nyaa 7 місяців тому +6

    7-zip unzips the entire archive to %temp% when executing an exe

  • @cmac3530
    @cmac3530 7 місяців тому +14

    When Linus and Luke were talking about if someone had submitted their high school portfolio with their job application I was just sitting here thinking, "Is that not how Jake Tivy was hired?"

  • @supernenechi
    @supernenechi 7 місяців тому +65

    I do think that people should be taught the idea of files and folders. A while ago a WAN show talked about how the younger generation (that grows up with dumbed down ipads and Chromebook) doesn't really know what a file or folder is. Then they start doing actual work, like real work on an actual computer and not a toy, and then they are worthless at it

    • @codycast
      @codycast 7 місяців тому +4

      Totally. Almost none of my employees understand basic file management. So when they have to download or organize files they’re lost. Trying to guide them to finding a file is painful. This should be computers 101

  • @memoryfoam2285
    @memoryfoam2285 7 місяців тому +19

    Born 2003, my programmer dad taught me to touch type (well, he impressed upon me how important it was and directed me to a touch typing website). I'm actually on a mechanical engineering course at the moment, and most of my classmates I would not trust to unzip a .zip, hell some of them even struggle with the concept of basic file management for our CAD projects.

    • @FlashySenap
      @FlashySenap 7 місяців тому +2

      Joined a course for CAD construction and I was surprised that people younger than me seem to struggle more with some basic stuff one would do on computer. I was sure that younger generation (gen z and forward,) would have a much better grasp of software usage and figure things out quickly. As well as typing, than someone like me who is an old millenial. Aren't kids using computers today, or playing around with softwares. New generation don't use keyboards? I'm hella confused!

    • @memoryfoam2285
      @memoryfoam2285 7 місяців тому +6

      @FlashySenap I think the big divide is in the paradigm shift from desktops and laptops to phones and tablets. My little sister has a laptop, but she only really uses it to play the sims, and does pretty much everything on her tablet. I've also noticed that, while my father knows infinitely more about software than me, he does struggle with his phone sometimes (he usually blames bad UI design), and the things he's struggling with seem blatantly obvious to me, as someone who's had a smartphone pretty consistently since I was 12 or 13.

    • @dpb22
      @dpb22 7 місяців тому +1

      I will say, basic file management has always been a problem. The number of programs which makes you drill down 15-20 folder to get to data is obscene. I worked on a piece of software 10+ years ago which had log files in four different locations and some were duplicate logs just wasting gigs of space.
      So no, it wasn't always better in the old days.

    • @VivekYadav-ds8oz
      @VivekYadav-ds8oz 6 місяців тому +2

      @@memoryfoam2285 "he usually blames bad UI design"
      That's such a programmer move lmao

  • @ronsijm
    @ronsijm 7 місяців тому +7

    13:53 - "Why am I wearing a headset?! What a f%*king loser..." - literally wearing a headset right now as well, but ok 😂

  • @jefftheworld
    @jefftheworld 7 місяців тому +41

    Running an executable from a zip file will _always_ require it to be uncompressed.
    When you run it without manually decompressing it your computer just decompresses it on the fly, so you're only saving a couple of seconds and you'll start _losing_ time if you keep running the same program that way over and over.

    • @UsefullPig
      @UsefullPig 7 місяців тому +2

      Yeah and doesn't Windows keep piling up the same executable in the folder or something?

    • @jefftheworld
      @jefftheworld 7 місяців тому +1

      @@UsefullPig I'm not a windows user so I'm not entirely sure how they handle it, but normally it's just extracted to a temp location.

    • @deadair32101
      @deadair32101 7 місяців тому

      @@jefftheworld depends on the program used to open the archive.

    • @jefftheworld
      @jefftheworld 7 місяців тому

      @@deadair32101 Where the uncompressed file is stored-on disk or in memory-might differ depending on the application, but the executable is always being uncompressed before being run.

    • @Glaggle
      @Glaggle 6 місяців тому

      ...that's what he said in the video.

  • @ProGear360
    @ProGear360 7 місяців тому +6

    "Trust me, Dan."
    **Loses all trust**

  • @jhs0108
    @jhs0108 6 місяців тому +2

    One of my go to stories of saving someone wasted time was at an IT gig I just recently left, a user complained that the accounts payable software when she was voiding invoices would sometimes take a long time for some accounts and not others to load their invoices. The reason? It was looking for already voided invoices as part of the search so some clients who've had hundreds of invoices over the years would take forever due to compression (and this software annoyingly being only single threaded) and I showed her a button that ignored them. She went into the CFO's office and showed him the button and he said he uses that constantly. She then told him we've wasted 10s of thousands of dollars on this issue as she's been having this problem for 7 years. The invoices load instantaneously now.

  • @harrytraber8380
    @harrytraber8380 7 місяців тому +5

    My favorite part of this video is Linus realizing 2 minutes into his example that its niche and proves the opposite of his point so he scrambles to make it work for him.

  • @attemptityourself5662
    @attemptityourself5662 7 місяців тому +15

    I'm honestly the most tech savvy person I know and while logically everything Linus said about references makes sense, I never put two and two together on not needing to extract single compressed executables. It's just always been such an easy task to extract a file that I never questioned the 3.5 seconds I could be saving. 🤣

    • @robhulluk
      @robhulluk 7 місяців тому

      Depends on whether you need to run the executable more than once. When you run an executable from within a zip, it is extracted to a temp folder, so if you run it multiple times, you are extracting it multiple times and storing multiple copies in the temp folder.

    • @codycast
      @codycast 7 місяців тому +1

      People run exe’s out of a zip file? What kind of animal does that. Extract the file(s) first. Ffs

  • @Brettlaken
    @Brettlaken 7 місяців тому +9

    I would actually blame parts about the youths inability to use computers on Google. It has become pretty much impossible to Google anything. Every search result is just blog posts designed to waste your time for ad revenue.

  • @aaronlarson4358
    @aaronlarson4358 6 місяців тому +2

    As someone that just left middle school we had a class that everyone took unless you were a band kid where we typed for 5 minutes at the beginning and would take a speed test at the end. In first grade we would spend time learning to type on keyboards.
    I was very annoyed in elementary school when they would spend hours yapping about online security and how to find reliable information since I knew it, but they did spend time teaching us this stuff.

  • @gFamWeb
    @gFamWeb 7 місяців тому +3

    Regarding typing speed, I've always typed with two fingers and can honestly do so at a relatively fast rate. I might learn the proper way to do it at some point, but it honestly works for me right now.

  • @Dave-cg9li
    @Dave-cg9li 6 місяців тому +1

    I'm 25 and my school actually taught how to type fast around 12 years ago! The school wasn't even specialised in IT, but we even had intro to programming, photo editing and basics of working with databases (+ working with Microsoft Office apps, which is probably taught more commonly). I never realised it wasn't common 😅

  • @XzTS-Roostro
    @XzTS-Roostro 7 місяців тому +1

    Computer Keyboard Typing was a thing they taught us in public schools.
    Also Comp Ed & Software Apps courses was and still is offered as elective courses, rather than being required.
    There are a lot of tech-savvy Gen-Z people who don't know what or how some Technologies work, especially office equipment (ie: Fax Machines & Photocopiers), or they don't know how to use a computer, because they only used smartphones.

  • @GiorgioSilvioPatalani
    @GiorgioSilvioPatalani 7 місяців тому +3

    In Italy to obtain a driver's license you have to know how a internal combustion engines work.

  • @foxford4981
    @foxford4981 6 місяців тому +2

    I do think knowing what zip file is, matters*. Its part of being computer literate that gives basis for using it and other features. A lot of emails have attached zip files. Same goes for many documents in a cloud. It being uni or work, it will come up sooner or later.

  • @cosmonautikal536
    @cosmonautikal536 6 місяців тому +1

    Avoiding looking up trash information is very important. Agree with Luke on that. I certainly I have no idea how to do it!

  • @DNAnetwork1
    @DNAnetwork1 7 місяців тому +1

    In the UK my entire education we was drilled on how to find reliable info every time was using computers always made sure we were checking at least 3 sources

  • @AceTriggerz
    @AceTriggerz 7 місяців тому +2

    My careers planning class was the only class where I got a C on, because it had almost 0 direction or expectation so I basically had no idea what to do or what to look for

  • @Jev55
    @Jev55 7 місяців тому +1

    I work in IT at a K-12 school district in the US. I can tell you we definitely do still teach typing, especially at the elementary level because the kids have to type their responses for state testing. However, the vast majority of our students use voice to text or the onscreen touch keyboard. When it comes to something like a zip file, it's very unlikely any student in the US is using a PC or Mac. Most districts are exclusively using Chromebooks or iPads for students. Our district even gives teachers Chromebooks as their primary device. Considering most parents don't have a computer anymore at home because they get on the internet with their phones or tablets, these kids will probably never see a PC until they get into the work force.

  • @90sMillenial
    @90sMillenial 7 місяців тому +1

    We had computer literacy classes back in late 90's, and that's where I learned about keyboard home keys and zip files. Later batches didn't have that course anymore. And i realized the same thing: younger generations type with just their index fingers.

  • @astro8062
    @astro8062 7 місяців тому +1

    Im doing a digital support and services T level and they are teaching how to find good sources of information and know to trust it so it does get taught but not in regular education

  • @qdllc
    @qdllc 7 місяців тому +1

    On ZIP files, I’ve noted newer OS use a folder-type icon for the file…which I see as potentially confusing. I remember when the icon was essentially a c-clamp on files.

  • @wrackfuljackal
    @wrackfuljackal 7 місяців тому +10

    COVID really pulls a 'Flowers for Algernon' moment for so many people who get it.

    • @RippahRooJizah
      @RippahRooJizah 7 місяців тому +1

      I know the reference but not quote what you mean.

  • @PGtheVRguy
    @PGtheVRguy 7 місяців тому +8

    As a high school student, one of my key problems with modern education is that they *can* teach what zip files are, but people DONT KNOW HOW TO GOOGLE! SO LITTLE PEOPLE IN MY SCHOOL ACTUALLY BOTHER TO GOOGLE HOW TO FIX THINGS. It's genuinely super annoying
    Along with this, I believe a key problem modern day students is so little have a "complex" machine accessible to them. Schools now use Chromebooks because they're easy to use, but now students dont get the opportunity to have first hand experience on how to debug and solve their problem.

    • @FlashySenap
      @FlashySenap 7 місяців тому

      What do you mean don't know how to google? You just google and find the answer?
      I was certain that younger generations would be a lot more tech savvy than us old millenials :S

    • @Nedlius
      @Nedlius 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@FlashySenapYou'd be surprised. If you are a teenager or in your early twenties and you go to some sort of school or university, most of the students at those schools, at least in the US, are practically braindead when it comes to understanding basic software functionality. When I used the term "Windows" around one of my flatmates, she genuinely thought I was referring to the glass squares that you look through and had no idea that it was an operating system. I then told her that it was an "operating system" that most computers use, and she didn't understand what that meant either. As a member of Gen Z, I think Gen Z is just as dumb with tech as the previous generations... it's just for different reasons, and the next generation will likely also be incredibly stupid, just for a new reason.

    • @jfolz
      @jfolz 7 місяців тому +1

      This is what worries me. Deeply. How is anyone supposed to go from "there's an app for that" on their completely locked down device to kernel developer?

    • @rhiesa3945
      @rhiesa3945 7 місяців тому

      Learning how to learn is one of the most important things to teach but one of the hardest things to really internalize without taking the time to do it. The best you can do is help people learn when they come to you with issues in the future so they can build their skillset.

    • @JJFlores197
      @JJFlores197 7 місяців тому +1

      @@FlashySenap Yep. It doesn't help that a lot of kids have their own iPad or tablet and phone and a school Chromebook. So while they may be "savvy" on how to use to use them for media consumption, most of them don't really know how to use them past social media apps. There's a big difference between being a social media app power user vs understanding how the device works.

  • @RichardHall3
    @RichardHall3 7 місяців тому +13

    I had to fight older generations (especially my parents) to be allowed to explore and play with computers and I'm 25. Don't judge people for not knowing things because you don't know why they don't know it.

    • @jfolz
      @jfolz 7 місяців тому +1

      Was there judgment? Personally I'm worried that there will come a point where it's impossible to become a kernel developer. I don't see how you would transition to that from touching colorful pictures on a fully locked down device. How would anyone ever get interested in how something works and persist long enough to figure it out if they can't tinker with it?

    • @traplover6357
      @traplover6357 6 місяців тому

      ​@@jfolzless competition for that field now that's for sure 😂

  • @lawrenceplays
    @lawrenceplays 7 місяців тому +1

    Im on a CS Degree in my finial year and literally yesterday i had someone get confused about zips. They were trying to copy and paste out of a zip and im blaming windows 11 because they have made it less clear that the "folder" your in is a Zip.

  • @memoryfoam2285
    @memoryfoam2285 7 місяців тому +1

    In the UK, and especially wales, a lot of colleges (students 16-18 years old typically) have started including a mandatory digital literacy certificate on some more technical qualifications. It covers how to use Google advanced search, how to evaluate a source for provenance, how to organise files, how to use email, Teams and other forms of digital communication, how to put together a presentation/website (depending on the level), and some basic knowledge of cybersecurity.

    • @post_human_luden
      @post_human_luden 4 місяці тому +1

      that certificate is painfully boring for anyone who already understands how to do it all. my college stupidly decided that a computing class would do it and we all hated it a lot, maybe it would go down better with people who don't know a whole lot about computers

    • @memoryfoam2285
      @memoryfoam2285 4 місяці тому

      @post_human_luden I completely agree, I got into engineering through my interest in computers and it was painful having to do the digital literacy qualification.

  • @PBMS123
    @PBMS123 7 місяців тому +1

    6:25 the program is still decompressing the file, so whether they do or not, doesn't really matter. Its not actually running from within the zip file.

  • @TheVirtualArena24
    @TheVirtualArena24 7 місяців тому +1

    This talk looked like Luke and Linus some heat here and there but I like how calm they are

  • @Louis_Varga
    @Louis_Varga 7 місяців тому +11

    I work at a state college and many of the incoming freshman lack basic computer literacy knowledge and skills. They also lack basic reading and listening comprehension. I don't know how these students even made it into college with how bad they are.

  • @jottenmiller
    @jottenmiller 7 місяців тому +54

    My only typing classes were in the first grade and I didn't have to use computers regularly until high school. I eventually had to type enough I learned the hard way to type correctly so hearing people at LMG doing it wrong isn't all shocking
    Edit: just to clarify I'm only 25 I just had a lot of anti computer teachers lol

    • @recklesssquirel5962
      @recklesssquirel5962 7 місяців тому +3

      That's nuts dude. My school, computer class started at 3rd grade, just familiarization courses really. Every year it would be a little more involved. 7th grade involved a program designed to increase your typing speed, and we started getting computer only assignments, meaning they had to be typed/completed on the computer.

    • @shanemitchell477
      @shanemitchell477 7 місяців тому +1

      I used computers in 5th grade, an apple IIe, I didn't have a typing class until 1986. I also learned cursive, home economics (check writing, balancing bills, cooking), woodshop, metalshop, electricity class, small gas engines, auto-mechanics, and hunter safety course as well. (meaning they taught you how to survive.)

    • @jottenmiller
      @jottenmiller 7 місяців тому

      @@shanemitchell477 I had home economics though it was more sewing and cooking and woodshop

    • @shanemitchell477
      @shanemitchell477 7 місяців тому

      @@jottenmiller I'm 53. My daughter is 25, and she learned those things like you did.....but the kids now don't. My younger brother has school age kids, they're not really taught anything much now, except they all want to go viral and be an influencer, which makes me laugh. Oh, and I know what a woman is.

    • @ben_car_8115
      @ben_car_8115 7 місяців тому

      @@GH0STST4RSCR34MAs a 23 year old, I had typing for a few years around 5th grade

  • @mari_023
    @mari_023 7 місяців тому +5

    I type decently fast for not typing "properly" (I use more than two fingers but not all 10, and certainly not consistent the same fingers for the same letters)
    I am however basically never limited by typing speed, since I am either limited by not knowing what I want to type (basically all longer text),
    or I am programming and the IDE is auto completing most of it anyway (and I am again limited by how fast I can think)
    yes, in theory proper 10 finger typing would be faster when copying large amounts of text than my style of typing.
    ...in practice copy and paste beats even the fastest writers by a lot.

  • @real1cytv
    @real1cytv 7 місяців тому +3

    I entierly agree with Luke, creating a system to teach people how to propely look up information would be really good. As a CompSci student I'll see other students struggeling with stuff they can look up within 2 seconds if they knew what to look for and how.

  • @MrPicklepod
    @MrPicklepod 7 місяців тому +1

    We had these things called "Informed Citizens" that was a research project that we were assigned 3 times in high school. It had a focus on finding quality information and getting up to date on certain issues, it's a good idea in theory. However the time needed for the teacher to thoroughly look through 45 students projects while grading all the regular stuff, and still having a life wasn't possible. So in practice it just didn't work.

  • @DiogoExMarques
    @DiogoExMarques 5 місяців тому +1

    To be fair... the problem described at 5:20 only happens because Windows' File Explorer has such a silly workflow for compressed folders where uncompress is not the main action but behind a right click.

  • @joshua7551
    @joshua7551 7 місяців тому +3

    Windows nowadays makes very little distinction between folders and zip files. The fact that you can just open most compressed archives within Windows explorer means that most people would never really understand that they're not just opening a weird folder. You can also run files normally from within the compressed archive as far as the user is concerned, because windows just extracts a file if you need to use just that file. The little dialog box that asks if you want to extract all isn't really going to register in most people's heads

    • @CoDEmanX47
      @CoDEmanX47 7 місяців тому

      This! Microsoft is to blame

  • @Trenjeska
    @Trenjeska 7 місяців тому +3

    I still would bring the binder and add the 'online' 640x480 version to the full 8K colour-calibrated printouts that are not online anywhere. They get stolen anyways if you put good art online. (even if you watermark it)

  • @user-we5xb8kv4k
    @user-we5xb8kv4k 7 місяців тому +2

    its like teaching Access, its basically useless for most people, but if you do go on to need it, you have the skill

  • @larsmurdochkalsta8808
    @larsmurdochkalsta8808 15 днів тому

    I've always been terrible at type training software, I almost always hunt and peck for those.
    But, If I am writing(typing) creatively I type correctly, sometimes I look at the keyboard, sometimes I don't. But I do it right.
    Granted when I'm writing creatively I only do 250 to 800 words/hr but the bottleneck is the process of the creation.
    Also my mom got a typing game for her laptop and I genuinely greatly appreciated it, as even my dysgraphic uncoordinated ass got good enough at typing from that to pass the typing class no problem. Plus It was a very genuinely sweet gesture to try and get me a game and teach me a skill at once.

  • @flyingman09101984
    @flyingman09101984 7 місяців тому

    @6:20, I love that Luke is being very sarcastic and Linus clearly notices while smiling at him hahaha, Such chemistry between these 2, I love it 🥰

  • @Genesis8934
    @Genesis8934 7 місяців тому +1

    I loved my typing (only) course in my middle school. We had half the class using blueberry imacs and the other half using old (idk the model) IBMs that still ran programs off 5.25-inch floppies. We'd be drilled in typing with the teacher randomly coming around with a manila file folder to cover our hands to make sure we weren't looking at the keyboard.
    Thank you Mr. Acker.

    • @FlashySenap
      @FlashySenap 7 місяців тому

      when was this. never experienced this. we never practice typing speed or skill. we just typed as speed would come naturally as we typed more. we focused more on the project or assignment at hand.

    • @Genesis8934
      @Genesis8934 7 місяців тому

      @@FlashySenap early 2000s / late 1990s for me

  • @DLiev
    @DLiev 7 місяців тому +11

    Linus: "All I do is write and do emails! If I was slow at this the company would shut down!"
    *spend 4 minutes trying to open the correct attachment*

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 7 місяців тому

    computer literacy class is a required thing by my school system. you need to take at least one STEM class, and that's the lowest level.
    and I was required to take it in middle school. we learned how to edit videos with windows movie maker, did typing lessons, edit audio with audacity, how to code in HTML, etc.
    that was the coolest class ever and I hope more schools start mandating it.
    it was only about 6-7 years ago but the teachings of that class still stuck with me. such a great class

  • @adeergg
    @adeergg 7 місяців тому +5

    I drove my teacher insane when we had a computers course in middle school. they had us do typing exercises, and I held my hands in the WASD position instead of home row. they would constantly walk over and complain to me about it. I still don't type home row, it feels so unnatural. I really have never seen much of an issue with my typing speed. Sure maybe if I needed to go to 90 wpm+, but im happy with 70.

    • @dsdavis6gmail
      @dsdavis6gmail 7 місяців тому

      I don't hold a pen the normal way and teachers used to put these triangle things onto my pens to get me to hold it "correctly" but I didn't and just ended up with little bruises on my fingers. It's really weird why they try to teach a correct way to do something when it doesn't really matter. If it's comfortable for you and you can type/write what difference does it make to anybody else lol

    • @FlashySenap
      @FlashySenap 7 місяців тому +1

      what is home row?
      I was never taught in school about that kind of stuff. We learned how to use HTML, Word and excel...

    • @jefez75
      @jefez75 7 місяців тому

      ​@@FlashySenapit's the middle row of keyboard letters (ASDF and so forth). there's usually notches on F and J to show where your index fingers should be, when you touch type

  • @colonelk3000
    @colonelk3000 7 місяців тому

    When I started as a developer my colleague said I should learn to touch type (I am a two finger typer). We had a competition to see who was a faster typer and he was quite dismayed when we were about the same speed 😂 the big time savers for me at work are learning shortcuts. Absolutely huge. The amount of actual typing for coding these days is quite small.

  • @MrDangerJonsson
    @MrDangerJonsson 7 місяців тому

    I straight up decided to start learning how to type right

  • @visualizzatoreDiQuartiere
    @visualizzatoreDiQuartiere 6 місяців тому +1

    As a software developer (which is someone that literally types for a living) I can assure you, typing is not the bottleneck.

  • @viktorsincic8039
    @viktorsincic8039 7 місяців тому

    Man do I love Luke.

  • @vodkawhisperer3923
    @vodkawhisperer3923 7 місяців тому

    these are things you should learn on your own through experience

  • @bobsquirrelking
    @bobsquirrelking 7 місяців тому +2

    I would argue that people need to learn what a compressed folder is, not on its own, but as part of getting a basic understanding of how to distinguish file types. Both by extension and by the "file type" column in file explorer.

    • @gameguy1337
      @gameguy1337 7 місяців тому

      "This is a zip file, it shrinks file size. Ok now get the free trial for winrar and you are set for life. Ok class dismissed"

  • @Jakeski87
    @Jakeski87 Місяць тому

    I'm sure some users hit technical roadblocks in computing to the point that they just avoid certain things from there on out.

  • @oldk4tz
    @oldk4tz 7 місяців тому +2

    Luke has a Doctorate in Linus wrangling

  • @Kingelfdemondevourer
    @Kingelfdemondevourer 7 місяців тому +1

    in addition to bringing back teaching kids about how to type and do it well enough instead of pecking.. i think we should bring back cursive as well. they last taught it 23 years ago when i was 8.. for that one year.. and never again.. i cant write it anymore its been so long but i can still read it.

  • @svpracer98
    @svpracer98 7 місяців тому +3

    I feel like the late 90s to early 00s kids really ended up with the best of both worlds. We were juuust before the big mobile tech boom (i.e. pre iPhone) yet just after the Internet explosion.

    • @UsefullPig
      @UsefullPig 7 місяців тому +1

      In terms of understanding the technology sure, but with all the social problems it caused, my god

  • @malfaroangel3896
    @malfaroangel3896 7 місяців тому +3

    Dam Luke 😂actually called out Linus on (if it isn’t Linus way it wrong). Luke makes a good point, a simple google search will solve it right away

  • @Respectable_Username
    @Respectable_Username 7 місяців тому +4

    (About the topic around the start) I'm a younger millennial who spent 5 years in Uni for my degree, and kept in contact with some of the post-grad students who stuck around and continued to teach even after I was gone. Apparently, many Gen Z don't even get the idea of "folders", because the way they've interacted with computers all their lives, that concept has been abstracted away by apps. Who needs to sort documents into the right folder within My Documents when the oldest version of Windows you can remember using is Win 7, which had a pretty good search box built in! Anyways, Word will just show you a list of the last documents you worked on, so who even knows _where_ they're stored? And those who used iPads as their primary OS...
    So many Gen Z actually just haven't been exposed to computing concepts even just us younger Millennials take as a given, simply because tech got too good at usability and abstracted away too many of the operational details

    • @jfolz
      @jfolz 7 місяців тому

      My theory is that there's a sweet spot for computer literacy for people who grew up in the 80s until the early 2000s. Around that time having a computer at home became affordable, but they were terrible and janky to use. You had to do a lot of problem solving and naturally picked up skills. Things probably peaked when internet access became widespread and people could suddenly easily self-educate. Post-smartphone this kind of widespread tinkering with tech just stopped and we're now seeing the results.

  • @FFXfever
    @FFXfever 4 дні тому

    When you double click a compressed exe, it'll still decompress to execute. You'll just save 2 clicks and finding the exe.

  • @Ellipsis115
    @Ellipsis115 7 місяців тому

    5:10 I never actually thought about or knew this lol

  • @Kakirax
    @Kakirax 6 місяців тому

    My highschool had a 2 semester long course called "Career and Life Management". It was a self paced, fully online course that was mandatory to graduate. It was supposed to teach time management, career planning, communication, self reflection, strategies for knowing when your mental health or physical health needs professional attention, and other important topics. The problem is it was a self paced online "pass/fail" course. Students generally don't give a shit when it comes to actually learning this kind of material, they just blitz through it asap. My school also had 3 years worth of financial management courses that included accounting, investments, budgeting, an entire month spent practising filing taxes, plus a bunch of other more finance/business related study that would be a great foundation for financial literacy. A grand total of 5 students enrolled across all 3 courses, so they got the same teacher and stuck all 3 grades into the same lessons at the same time. Yet every year I hear complaints from old friends or classmates on social media on how "school never taught taxes!". You can't really teach meaningful subjects to the majority of high schoolers because they don't care or are lazy.

  • @AlmightyBeing
    @AlmightyBeing 7 місяців тому

    I literally had typing courses all through primary school and was never able to type with all my fingers. For some people it's just really difficult to learn

  • @jackfearon3721
    @jackfearon3721 7 місяців тому

    as someone who works in highschool educattion, teaching stuff like the differnece between zips and compressed file types vs teaching stuff about how to research propperly, how to try and determine if an article is biased or not or even basics like how to use standard ish office softwares and emails etc means that zip and comprssed files wouldnt really matter as the kids that want to know will already understand the kids that dont care wont actively listen in most cases anyway. although i do think stuff like type speed needs to be practiced because ive seen kids that can write fill essays easyily and are super articulate but then cant type fast enough on a computer and it slows down their entire process

  • @samlawrence4670
    @samlawrence4670 7 місяців тому +6

    Basically storage is so much less of an issue than it used to be, along with internet bandwidth, download speeds etc etc that zip files are rarely needed anymore. That’s why people don’t know what they are.

    • @PabAng
      @PabAng 7 місяців тому +1

      I don't know why sometimes the mail client on Windows just doesn't want to send certain filetypes, so I usually just compress them in a zip folder and send that 😅

  • @MegaFrozenMan
    @MegaFrozenMan 7 місяців тому

    To he honest, i mostly use a speach to text function in office. Learn the termenology and it is super fast

  • @LegacyUser
    @LegacyUser 7 місяців тому +1

    the highlight of this video, is Future Linus roasting past Linus.

  • @cooleosis1
    @cooleosis1 7 місяців тому +3

    i mostly use 2 fingers and can get up to 110wpm on a good keyboard, get on my level. learned it on runescape

  • @BiSq__-
    @BiSq__- 7 місяців тому

    That type of typing still exists in my school. its mostly because the children in my school don't have access to a computer other than at school

  • @tiranus5861
    @tiranus5861 2 місяці тому

    One thing ive noticed when typing is that you dont realize how slow you were going, but when you watch a replay (either on a typing websielte or a video) you realize how painfully slow you are

  • @KptnAutismus
    @KptnAutismus 7 місяців тому

    i really only type a couple of search terms and a few sentences a week, but i would've loved learning touchtyping when i had the time to. if linus is bothered by it so much, he should probably give the employee an hour a day to learn touchtyping. really useful skill that unfortunately only enthuisiasts pick up early in life.

  • @LordProtectorPepper
    @LordProtectorPepper 25 днів тому

    I’m someone who’s very into tech now but I grew up broke and without any structure so learning about computers and using them hands on in a non school setting didn’t rlly happen so when I was like 19-20 I got back into Pokémon and wanted to download a emulator and some roms and that’s when I ran into zip files… shits confusing and mad em scratch my head for a bit… until as luke said I did one single google search and had every answer I needed

  • @fukov3400
    @fukov3400 7 місяців тому +3

    I’ve learned as funny as it is to me, don’t include “atention to detai” on your resume

  • @RadarLeon
    @RadarLeon 7 місяців тому

    I can type with one hand across the entire keyboard thanks to gaming albeit at a loss of about 60% of total speed, but that is still useful

  • @rozorahk
    @rozorahk 26 днів тому

    I had typing class all throughout school and I didn’t get any faster. The only experience that ever made made my typing faster was working an office/email job.

  • @deadskimountaineer
    @deadskimountaineer 7 місяців тому

    It was CALM (career and life management) class when I was in high school. I just remember a monthly budget with a very small amount of money.

  • @BenjaminRonlund
    @BenjaminRonlund 7 місяців тому

    When you try to run an exe inside a zip file, Windows give you a warning message that it might not run properly though.......

  • @richardconnor2871
    @richardconnor2871 7 місяців тому

    In regards to the zip files vs folders... between the proliferation of cheap storage, and high bandwidth internet, I feel like zip files have become less common overall. I don't run into them as much as I did back in the 56k days where you had a 32gb HDD.

  • @marufbepary100
    @marufbepary100 7 місяців тому

    Zip files are important just because of how frequently they are used like when sending 'folders' in emails.

  • @ValachKnight
    @ValachKnight 6 місяців тому

    Portofoliooooooooos😂😂😂😂

  • @TD-er
    @TD-er 7 місяців тому

    Well I had a professor at university for some math course.
    It was kinda frustrating to see him type with 1.5 fingers when he tried to help you on the computer.
    He was also way past his pension age, so it amplifies the idea of someone not knowing how to use a computer.
    But then all of a sudden he used some shortcuts you probably never knew existed and as a bystander you would be completely lost to what was happening and it was done before you could even blink your eyes.
    Still not sure if it was something he did to tease students.
    But it always stuck to me that seeing someone type with 1 or 2 fingers may be very deceptive :)

  • @t3hpwninat0r
    @t3hpwninat0r 7 місяців тому

    I had literally this exact same problem today. Delivered a html marketing email with images all nice in a zip file and the client said the images aren't working. The images need to be in the same folder as the html.

  • @bandito241
    @bandito241 2 місяці тому

    20:05
    Omg 😂😂😂

  • @RagnarokLoW
    @RagnarokLoW 7 місяців тому

    I love how Linus critiques himself wearing a headset while wearing a headset during a video.

  • @MoChuang343
    @MoChuang343 7 місяців тому

    I rarely am typing something where I can think faster than I can type. I type around 50 wpm. I also am rarely transposing something, so I think I type faster than on all tests bc normally I don’t need to read while typing.

  • @TurtleSauceGaming
    @TurtleSauceGaming Місяць тому

    My typing speed averages at about 85wpm, and have peaked at 104wpm in a test (naturally short burst), but I learned to type with some basic courses in early elementary school and just refined it typing mkd match on battlefield way too much.

  • @lordgrim8854
    @lordgrim8854 7 місяців тому

    the one persons first comment being to update the browser was honestly what made me laugh the most

  • @SebiKoerner
    @SebiKoerner 7 місяців тому

    I wish I properly learnd how to type with 10 fingers, I use some slwo-ish hybrid. But I just don't have the time nor the patience to learn it now at 21 and braking habits is tough.

  • @Fakenamelance
    @Fakenamelance 2 місяці тому

    As someone who works at a school, they do have those classes... They aren't optional either, you have to take a Microsoft Office class and a computer literacy class, which does in fact cover zip files.

  • @YoboYT
    @YoboYT 7 місяців тому

    As a PC gamer I didn't need a typing class because I developed my own way of typing. Yes I have to glance at the keys every once and a while but I can type fast.

  • @snow15243
    @snow15243 7 місяців тому

    I am so glad i learned how to type in elementary school.