It's time to spin the WHEEL OF PAAAIN!! _Insert LTT's jingle here._ -Timestamps- [0:00] *Chapters.* [0:57] *WAN show full-time employee, WHEEL OF PAAAIN.* [2:04] *Intro.* [2:39] *Topic #1: Smosh's "Short Kings Rank Short Kings" video.* > 3:05 Watching video, ranked next to Markiplier & Tom Holland. > 4:37 Luke's short joke, Linus on half inches & finding the board. > 6:22 Discussing ranked people, Tom Cruise's tenacity. [7:33] *Topic #2: Microsoft & Google lay off thousands again.* > 7:56 Reasons provided by Microsoft, focus on AI. > 9:04 Exactly a year after Microsoft's major plans, Luke on OpenAI. > 10:24 Quote from Google's CEO, Linus on sustainable hiring. > 12:57 Linus looks at Google's stock, incompetent management. > 14:16 Linus hints at an official investment. > 14:33 Google offers 60 days of pay & 16 weeks of severance. > 15:36 Linus on GPT replacing Google until it fails to make revenue? > 18:04 Linus on jewellery shopping, comparing to Microsoft. > 21:03 Twitter thread on paying for GPT 4, Luke mentions company costs. > 23:24 Linus compares GPT 4 to real-estate. > 23:53 Linus on Merch Messages with GPT 4, Luke on IRC & selling tools. > 27:31 Update on shadow-banning, discussing NDA & embargoes. > 32:44 Linus's on algorithm = audience, 7900XT/X embargoes. > 36:35 Shutting down "AliExpress" screwdriver & backpack argument. > 39:36 Being unable to defend yourself, Luke on RTX 6000 comments. > 43:33 Luke's video idea, James's "How to Make Good Linus Videos." > 45:41 Laws of Linus #1: Never insult the audience. [50:11] *Topic #3: Two major lawsuits on AI art generators.* > 50:53 Stable Diffusion's habit of replicating "Getty Images" watermark. > 52:06 AI replicating images, "remixing" copyrighted artwork. > 53:05 Luke on using replicated AI images for mobile games. > 55:04 Does it matter what the law is if the benefits outweigh negatives? > 56:18 Reaction channels, fair use & UA-cam revenue. > 1:06:18 Linus's "ethical reaction guidance," Luke on unfair usage. > 1:09:02 Linus on unfair usage of LTT content & mutual agreement. > 1:12:27 Floatplane Poll: "Reaction content" on submissions. > 1:15:50 Linus on LMG's transformative reaction content. > 1:17:44 LMG Clips's revenue & viewership V.S. timestamps. > 1:19:43 Alex P still gets clickbaited into WAN clips. > 1:20:55 Luke on "names of things matter," TARKOV short video. [1:21:54] *Sponsors.* > 1:22:04 Thorum's hand-made wedding bands & rings. > 1:23:42 Audible's audio books. > 1:25:37 Vessi Footwear. [1:26:33] *WHEEL OF PAAAIN explained.* [1:28:30] *WoP #1: Twitter apps broke, rules on 3rd party apps.* > 1:30:26 Consulting firm not paid after forcing Elon to buy Twitter. > 1:30:53 Luke tells Linus to "Sit the F down," argument starts. > 1:37:01 Dan the Adjudicator, Luke to "shadow-ban" Linus. [1:41:12] *WoP #2: Samsung to use old patent to ban TP screen imports.* > 1:42:44 AFBF signs Right to Repair with JD, argument starts. > 1:54:26 Dan the Adjudicator's, "defend the indefensible." [1:58:59] Luke recalls Namco Ltd's patent, TESRenewal's Skyblivion. [2:06:15] *LTTStore's new underwear designs.* [2:07:32] *Merch Messages #1.* > 2:08:14 Playing Runescape back in the day. > 2:11:43 Account-locked phones as tech waste? > 2:15:28 Merch Messages criticism from a Floatplane user. > 2:18:32 What is Linus's process to choosing a supplier? [2:22:36] *Topic #4: LTX 2023 update.* > 2:23:01 LTX support, confirmed sponsors. [2:23:59] *Topic #5: Linus on his investment in a NAS product.* > 2:24:03 Linus recalls Framework, mistakes it with Floatplane. > 2:25:36 Explaining the NAS software & the project's team. [2:27:55] *Topic #6: Apple's new HomePod & Mini.* > 2:28:56 M2 Pro & M2 Max, new Macbooks, possible SC videos. > 2:30:10 Apple TV requires another Apple device to accept TOS. > 2:31:25 Linus & Luke on AirPods & lack of firmware update. > 2:33:10 "It's a bug," Linus on hand washer not working with POC. > 2:36:39 Apple TV+'s horrific video quality on non-Apple devices. [2:37:35] *Topic #7: Wyoming's bill to phase out EVs by 2035.* > 2:41:32 Occasional battery rumors, Luke on materials. [2:42:54] *Topic #8: Stadia's self-service to enable BT.* [2:43:36] *Merch Messages #2.* > 2:43:50 Thoughts on 10Gbps home fiber? > 2:55:01 Addon that warns products using Labs reviews? > 2:57:02 Advice for starting a job with an unfamiliar field? > 3:00:11 What fictional technology do you wish to review? > 3:01:25 Would you consider a team that investigates shady practices? > 3:02:35 Explain the need behind improving WAN show. > 3:12:26 10Gbps for 3-2-1 backups, wanting 4K3D, home of 40Gbps. > 3:14:35 Tips of traveling with a newborn. > 3:15:25 Experience with Valve Index & Quest 2 for Beat Saber. > 3:17:12 What's your favorite dad joke? > 3:18:15 Luke addresses 1Gb chat misconception. > 3:19:05 Does Linus code? > 3:22:35 Biggest struggle as a new developer after graduation? > 3:25:22 chatGPT prompt on why one needs 10Gbps. > 3:26:01 Being a successful UA-camr while keeping your life private? > 3:28:39 How do you come up with products to develop & sell? > 3:31:18 Did Luke try out Dark and Darker? > 3:33:56 Does LMG have a gym for employees to use? [3:35:40] *Outro.*
This show was so long that, I started it shortly after it went live and I removed and replaced my medicine cabinet, cleaned the bathroom and then finished the show on the couch. 10/10. I want 5 hours next Friday!
Hey Luke, last show being the best was in no way related to you being silent, other than your amazing commitment to the bit. It was entirely Linus being unhinged and cussing constantly that made it hilarious.
Yeah, Linus was litterarily speaking for two people. And manufacturing drama, and shit talking all by himself... It's like those radio shows back in the day.
Really liking the long WAN shows. And I do watch them all in their entirity. The LMGs main product for me is the wan show, and all other content is extra. It kinda flipped that way slowly when my interest in the latest hardware started dwindling.
I think the LTT Videos in general lost quality. Now its x new uninteresting Hosts showing some random keyboard nobody will ever see in stock or in a shop, or some cheap laptops or headphones. Most reviews seem sponsored or unnecessary. Its not just new hardware being uninteresting. The products they show are uninteresting, since its not the products a person will buy. I would LOVE them to make a new video testing 10 different 13th gen Intel / RTX 40x0 Laptops and showing pros/cons, or a new Video showing 5-10 different new OLED technology TVs. Something that actually could help you make a purchase decision. Who cares about Keyboard Caps.
@@BatLBthey have an entire warehouse for just testing stuff, and they’ve also talked about how to make watchable content of just that, so that may or may not become a thing.
Most people are totally fine with/totally capable of just taking their phone to the bathroom with them if they have to go.. and if you watch from some immovable device, just grab your phone, access the stream, and do your thing withoutt missing a beat.... ALL without interrupting the rest of the world.
For "Defend the undefendable" segments, you should use a chess timer with each side getting 3 minutes overall and you click the timer when you've finished a point for the other to counter.
Can we get Dan a small plushie maybe a banana to throw at linus and luke when they say Alright Dan hit us. I feel the surprise and shock factor would be hilarious
The WAN show has quickly become one of those podcasts I look forward to listening to during my work week. Last week's show was a real gem, and quite honestly I just need more quality podcasts to have to get through the week.
@@ChaoticAuthority that's awesome! I hope they make it a routine thing. That guy makes the show convenient to watch for soooooo many people, myself included.
Linus telling Luke "Don't worry about it" when Luke says he has no idea what the Wheel of Pain is, has such big "Be not afraid" biblically accurate angel energy.
I absolutely love long form content. I hate shorts and will rarely watch a video less than 10 minutes. More than half of videos I watch are over an hour. Thank you WAN Show for being this for me
I do enjoy the long form content but it feels like the WAN show has like tripled in length since I started watching. I'm not complaining because it's definitely my favourite podcast type thing that I can listen along to while working or playing a videogame.
I love specific long form videos that I can listen to while at work like podcasts are amazing for that. However, if I have to actually watch the video, the most I'll watch is an hour, and I'm never on Twitch for the same reason.
I like the longer WAN shows and the responding to merch messages. I just bought my first house in September and it is very quiet and lonely a lot of the time so thanks for keeping me company guys! :)
I remember Luke saying a few months ago that the length increased from 1 and a half hours ish, to 2 to 3 hours because of merch messages specifically. He was referring to specifically how merch messages sometimes send them (more specifically Linus) onto tangents that can become their own 15-30 minute mini segments.
I honestly love the "Linus corrects misconceptions" video pitch idea. You stated that you might be worried about insulting the audience, but there's no reason it has to be structured that way. If users pose a question or state wrong information, you can recording yourself correcting them in a calm, informative manner. If the attitude is right, there's no room for insults. And for me personally, I would love to see videos like it because they sound very informative as I'm sure I have a thousand misconceptions about tech without even realizing it.
@@saulgoodman2018 you're quite literally the type of person he's talking about when he talks about this. He has explained many, many times why he has gotten to this point. Seeing people not actually watch the content (in the same video) and comment dumb things like this. You're what he was talking about.
When Linus first brought out the wheel, I was apprehensive at best, expecting 'challenges' that have been so prolific lately. That said, I love the random devil's advocate concept, and very much enjoyed the segment. Luke and Linus did amazing with this.
I love the wan showas a long format thing to keep my mind busy while i do stupid tasks. Long form content works wonders for it. Even if i cant watch it in a whole sitting i'll come back later/the next day and continue. Amazing stuff.
I appreciate the longer shows. It gives me something to put on in the background while I do stuff without the need to constantly pick up the phone to scroll for the next thing to listen to or to skip ads, and it's not just pointless background noise, I can actually learn about current tech events and occasionally learn life improvement tips as well!
Me too. Used to just listen to LMG clips, now I just put on the video in the background throughout the week. Hardly ever listen live, but I enjoy interacting with it throughout the week
I don't watch every ltt video, but I definitely watch every Wan show. It's long but it's all about things you guys are passionate about, which is usually the most interesting things going on in tech.
Actual passion is what drives me to watch a video. I'll skip over a 10minute video on some random product that's not particularly interesting, but I'll gladly spend 3 hours listening to this whole show.
Timestamp guy, timestamp guy Always on the WAN Show, never shy With his trusty keyboard by his side He'd timestamp every moment with pride Chorus: But this week, oh what a shame Timestamp guy's on vacation, no more timestamps to claim We miss his handy work, it's true Timestamp guy, we're waiting for you Verse 2: We scroll through the comments with a sigh No timestamps, it feels like we're running dry We only need the times when they're hard to find Only miss the timestamps when they're not there to remind Chorus: But this week, oh what a shame Timestamp guy's on vacation, no more timestamps to claim We miss his handy work, it's true Timestamp guy, we're waiting for you Verse 3: Staring at the bottom of our screens Hoping one day he'll come back it seems But time goes slow and he's gone so fast We see him when we close our eyes Maybe one day we'll understand why Everything he touched was so precise Chorus: But this week, oh what a shame Timestamp guy's on vacation, no more timestamps to claim We miss his handy work, it's true Timestamp guy, we're waiting for you Outro: Cause you only need the timestamps when they're hard to find Only miss the timestamps when they're not there to remind Only know you love Timestamp guy when he's not on your mind And you let him go. Edit - attribution: ChatGPT wrote this as a parody version of Passenger's Let Her Go and it was too good not to share it.
@@someoneintheinternet7443 Nothing to do with it. ChatGPT made this all up as a parody version of Let Her Go. I usually hate AI spam but this was too good not to share. Attribution added.
@@pasikavecpruhovany7777 I knew it was ChatGPT before you even had to say it. Why? Because why the f*ck would you spend your time making a poem when you can make ChatGPT make it in like a minute. Hell yeah that's productivity baby.
Wow it's been 4 wan shows in row that it's getting better and better Amazing work guys it was hard to watch because I'm short In time but it was worth it as always
Linus has jumped off the stream to quickly grab new merch or something he wanted to show off spontaneously, when he figures out he can also go pee in a similar manner we will be in the end game.
@@connormcawesomeface9350 I'm perfectly okay with that. Linus can go pee thrice if he wants in a 6 hour WAN show, if that means we get more interesting and cool conversation and topics.
I actually appreciate that you got all Clips from the WAN show onto a separate channel. I was able to ask YT to not recommend that channel. I'm one of those who watches every WAN show. I mainly miss it live, but that's okay, I love to watch it on Saturdays with time stamps.
I loved the devil’s advocate part. One more tip in addition to all the additions you proposed: make a hat with the devil's horns (when you are doing the role you wear it) so 1. The viewers can understand the context even if parts of this section get published completely out of context 2. I think it would make it even funnier to have to wear a prop that makes you the "devil's advocate"
@@filippocld There's a lot they could improve, but as long as they're still actively defending something they hate and without a leg to stand on, my soul will sympathetically hurt a little.
I really love how you guys have such a great dynamic together. I’m also envious of the whole office atmosphere and how there isn’t fear with the boss (unless probationary) but love, respect, humor, and the feelings of family. Love the content, love the jokes, love the devotion to building, maintaining, and learning. Keep being Great!
My biggest issue with the mass layoffs is that CEOs like Pichai, Nadella, Zuck etc. say they "take full responsibility" and then they send an email to lay off thousands...how is this taking responsibility? Did they resign? Do they take a pay cut? Do they suffer any negative effects from the layoffs? Why not? The over-stretching and over-staffing happened on their watch. I think Sundar actually made like $10M based on stocks of Alphabet he owns worth almost $200M
Bro they can cut the fat whenever they want the company belongs to the shareholders they are the ones who invested and when they want downsizing that is what they will get wether people cry about it or not
I actually don't understand...like can a company in America just...FIRE you? I am sorry, what do you mean? I have an active contract, I have no interest in getting fired and I will continue working like it says in my contact. Sure, you can pay me for 4-6 months and then I will consider resigning to find a new job. Doesn't the US have some laws for protecting the workers?
@@viv12348 unfortunately, many of the states that make up the United States are what are considered "Right To Work" states, which is a little bit misleading, because it would be more accurate to call it something like, a "right for an employer to fire employees at will with zero cause or warning" state. Essentially as the proposed name suggests, in a Right to Work state, employees have essentially **NO** right to work, or at the very least, no security in their job and can be fired at the whim of the employer, for no reason at all. So if an employer woke up on the wrong side of the bed and ended up firing you over it, if you're in a Right to Work state, you can do nothing about it. The only protection that employees have in these states are protections from discrimination and prejudice but so long as the employer doesn't expressly state that they are firing somebody for personal reasons stemming from prejudice or racism, ageism, sexism, etc., there would be no way to differentiate a firing of this kind from a justified firing the likes of which happen every day in Right to Work states. Just to put it into context and add a personal anecdote, I was fired near the start of the pandemic and had been given zero warning. I was never issued any kind of warning or had even so much as an off the record conversation regarding my performance. There was literally zero indication that there was anything wrong with my performance. No warnings, no strikes, no "hey just a heads up..." So when I was told I was being let go, it completely blindsided me and to be perfectly honest, it ended up being somewhat traumatic since it's really hard for me to reconcile an action such as being fired with no cause or reasoning for said firing.
@@adawg3032 Sure, but it also means these CEOs let the company waste a ton of money on employees the company apparently doesn't need. For months, maybe years, they could've been making the shareholders more money, but these CEOs have burned these possible profits of shareholders for no good reason. I'd be mad as a shareholder.
65 mb in Nigeria what are you one of those prices that try to give me money all the time. but I gues upgrading infrastructure is a lot easier if there is barely nay old infrastructure in the way.
Lol. I live here in Wisconsin, USA. I only get up to 10mbps of speed in my house of a mid size city of 68k+ population. Public places around here such as restaurants, hospitals gets up to 50mbps at most from my test. So, more higher speed is much appreciated. Though, 10gb can be an over kill at the moment, if not for business uses. Anyway, hope you get your 65mb internet connection, though.
I work 12 hour days at a connector manufacturer and the long WANShows are awesome! Love listening while working and Luke's belly laugh always makes my day lol
WAN Show has increasingly become the main thing I watch on LTT. I respect both Linus and Luke and though I find myself siding with Luke more, I really value and respect both of their opinions.
@@Wheelman2004 I also mainly just watch WAN shows, LMG puts out way to much content for me to keep up (especially if I also want to keep up somewhat with other creators).
it really does. honestly other podcasts just feel like content but the WAN show feels like an experience. it’s just so fun. a reassuring constant presence in my life
True, I like the WAN Show but I don't sit around watching just that, I usually treat it kind of like a podcast and have it open in the background when I'm doing menial videogame stuff or work out or something like that
Calling them basically disposable is an insult and uncomfortable is very debatable. You can change the ear cups and they offer great sound for the price. Linus starts to lose touch.
The reason those audio technica headphones got super popular a few years back is because of Marques from MKBHD. He wore them in most videos for years and constantly pushed them as the best bang for the buck "audiophile style" headphones. This was just as his channel was properly blowing up, just as he was leaving college.
@user-bj6dp9eo4m well the audio is almost perfectly balanced normally so kind of a false statement... also luke recently had mouth surgery, maybe he is just talking a lil quieter also? Don't think so negative 😉
@PiousSlayer Maybe, but that would be noticed by live viewers in that case (if it was as unbalanced as your making it sound), audio has been wonky in episodes before and chat has chirped in and it has been fixed pretty fast, luke seems to pick up on it quickly if float plane or twitch bring it up in the chat. I honestly can't even notice an audio issue listening from a mobile and I'm halfway through now, I think you're finding a non-issue, to be honest.
I know when previous shows talked about it, Luke tends to move farther away from the mike when they boost his audio, so they probably need to lower the audio he hears of himself in his headset maybe?
Usually a Saturday morning watcher, but love that you guys publish the audio on Mondays as a podcast. Sometimes the weekend gets away from me, and I appreciate it.
18:20 I consider myself an introvert so I empathize well with Linus' comment on shopping. The best thing about ChatGPT is that I know that it's AI and I won't feel belittled by asking asinine questions or commenting on something that is out of my league.
I think that's a lot of over worry. The vast majority of people who are decent persons will not belittle you for that, as they had to ask seemingly "stupid" questions in the past, too.
@@albertobueno7805 For us introverts, it doesn't matter how nice other people are, it's our worries about it that is the problem. In fact, it is sometimes easier to interact with assholes since those we can dismiss and not worry about. Sometimes, nice people are the worst.
I love the wheel of pain! I do suggest you don't make it a strictly weekly thing because some weeks there may just not be enough material for it. But definitely want to see it pop up now and then as it was entertaining & interesting. Edit: posted this while watching and that addressed it later in the episode. All is well
What I do is basically put the WAN Show on every morning while I’m getting ready for my college classes. Honestly it’s a pretty great way to start your day!
The wheel of pain is an amazing idea. I love it. I want to do something similar with some arguments I have at work. PS, I watch wan show and then find myself rewatching via the clips as well. I can't explain my decisions.
on watching long form content, I love the 3 hour wan shows. they drop just in time for me to start it when I get up in Saturday, giving me basically a good radio show that I don't need to interact with while I'm cleaning or making firewood or whatever. it's not content that I actively engage with, for sure.
I would suggest for future Wheel of Pain segments to follow a competitive debate structure: one person makes their case for the position, and the other person makes their case against the position. The audience and Dan can then decide who they think made the more convincing argument. Note: A convincing argument does not mean it's the 'right' argument, it only means it was more convincing.
Twitter segment : 1. Get rid of the bots, by stopping how they are made - the API. 2. All users on one app for add-ons testing & voting. 3. To make money on Ad's with guaranteed views from real people & not bots. Creating profit & raising price of ad's.
The Wan Show vs LMG clips argument is really a great example of differen stuff for different folks. I love the full Wan Show for when I'm traveling and/or have it in the background while doing something. I love the clips when I don't have time and want to consume the content in small bits between my activities.
Great show, WAN Show is by far my favourite when it comes to LTT content. I like formats that take time to talk about things, behind the scenes etc. Like most podcast style shows, I just listen to it with 1.5x speed and wouldn t watch it live (time difference would make the basically impossible either way). Always looking forward to my weekly WAN show on Saturday :).
I used to give apple the benefit of the doubt till I worked at Apple Support. The "buy your mom an iPhone" was the confirmation anyone would ever need.
For the next Defend the Undefendable section, please have Producer Dan dress up as Chewbacca and make Luke to give the South Park Chewbacca Defense!!!!
This is the WAN show version of “Defend the indefensible” from the BBC Radio 5 Live show “Fighting Talk”. I love that there and I love this version of it.
This was an amazing WAN show. You should work out a way for one host to take over for a few minutes while the other has a bio-break. Also, The WAN show is my favorite part of LTT and it keeps me coming back every week. Kudos to all 3 of you, and I can't wait to see what the future brings.
WAN is a highlight of my week, while I’m always working when you’re live I make sure to listen to it in snippets throughout the week from beginning to end.
Had my M50-X for years now and love them, audio quality is good, they're durable and the cables provided have not got damaged even with me running my chair over them many times. For £110 they're not exactly cheap but they're a good pick I think
Had mine since 2015 and they’re still fantastic and can really be pushed hard without distortion. Better than my old Sennheisers…but they did cost more.
Yes, I consider that reaction content. I watch a pet UA-camr that reacts to their sub's habitats and setups (food water storage, litter box, bedding, etc.) for their pets. They generally give their stamp of approval or say what could be done better. Something like this could easily work for tech, namely PC builds.
LMG clips is what exposed me to this podcast, I know only watch the full thing but seeing the clips pop up in my feed (which is more likely to happen over than the actual thing) makes me go out of my way to get to the full one, so even in just that regard I think the clips is worth it
Personally I love long wan shows the longer the better! The wheel of pain was so much fun I was having a blast the whole time I hope everyone else likes it too so it becomes a staple of the show
For the past 3 years orso, i watch the wan show on youtube everyweek. The full thing while i am doing gaming and stuff. I can't watch it live because it's like 3am in my time zone. very much enjoy it every week. Hopes it never stops
The Wheel of PAIN is a winner! I like the argument/counter-argument. Suggest a 2-minute summary, a 2-minute defense, a 2-minute counter, another 2-minute response, then Dan decides.
Every other Friday I work a 12 hour night shift. You best believe I listen to WAN show as I do my job, but when Im free on Fridays not so much I need timestamp guy lol.
Can you guys combine the merch message question and answer on one slide? many times ive had to scroll back and forth to see each. Keep up the good work, thanks!
I was recently a tech for Sprint going back about 10 years. EVERY model phone has a A-Z guide on how to disassemble and repair any removable part inside before it launches, complete with full color photos, and all of the tools/jigs/etc are also already available. Mind you, these are "third party" not directly from Samsung/Moto/Apple/Etc but the company that makes all of these tools has contract agreements with the parent companies, so extending that to allow customers to download the .pdf files for repair wouldn't be an issue at all. That being said... the parts that are used, with the exception of Apple (because each internal piece of the iphone/ipad/etc has its own serial number that is actually attached to the MEID/IMEI of the phone itself, so a repair has a final step of attaching the new serial number to the device in Apple's internal systems) are NOT OEM, are third party, but are certified by "Insert Samsufacturer here ;)" to be a direct replacement. That being said... Samsung has no business telling me what device I SHOULD be buying... because even though they're "almost" the same price as a replacement screen ($250 for my Note 10+, for example) vs the Galaxy A53 5G that is $345 (if I use the "Cracked Note 10+ trade-in" to get $105 off) I'd still not have the phone I want, in the color I want, with the specs I want... I'd be going from Aura Glow color to Regular black, 6.8" screen to 6.5", no stylus, 12GB ram to 6GB, 256G ROM to 128GB, lower resolution... I'm not a big user of the camera so that's nothing I'm worried about...
I love that the new producer was ask to make wan show better, and inmediatly she said "ok, Lets add conflict" 1 Linus AND Luke can handle it 2 it IS enterteiment Would like a segment with Sara speaking about ai generated images, since maybe she would not appreciate when Linus Said "imagine doing a children's book in a weekend"
Human nature is so ridiculous and often awful, Luke and Linus. Many of us appreciate you, the stupid, belittling and hair-pulling things you go through, and greatly care about you and your well-being. Please be well and know that we recognize the frustrations and angering things you share with us and that there are things you go through that you may not share with us. We are here to support you and help you grow. Much love.
A pro-tip for company owners and investors: if the lay-off is absolutely inevitable, start with cutting the top-tier and upper-mid management positions. 1 It is their fault. 2 You save a hecking lot of money. 3 You retain a lot of your personnel's loyalty and efficiency.
I consume basically all of my YT content while commuting to and from work. I basically only click one video, anything else I just have to press "skip" and hope eventually it recommends/auto plays something I like.
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It's time to spin the WHEEL OF PAAAIN!! _Insert LTT's jingle here._
-Timestamps-
[0:00] *Chapters.*
[0:57] *WAN show full-time employee, WHEEL OF PAAAIN.*
[2:04] *Intro.*
[2:39] *Topic #1: Smosh's "Short Kings Rank Short Kings" video.*
> 3:05 Watching video, ranked next to Markiplier & Tom Holland.
> 4:37 Luke's short joke, Linus on half inches & finding the board.
> 6:22 Discussing ranked people, Tom Cruise's tenacity.
[7:33] *Topic #2: Microsoft & Google lay off thousands again.*
> 7:56 Reasons provided by Microsoft, focus on AI.
> 9:04 Exactly a year after Microsoft's major plans, Luke on OpenAI.
> 10:24 Quote from Google's CEO, Linus on sustainable hiring.
> 12:57 Linus looks at Google's stock, incompetent management.
> 14:16 Linus hints at an official investment.
> 14:33 Google offers 60 days of pay & 16 weeks of severance.
> 15:36 Linus on GPT replacing Google until it fails to make revenue?
> 18:04 Linus on jewellery shopping, comparing to Microsoft.
> 21:03 Twitter thread on paying for GPT 4, Luke mentions company costs.
> 23:24 Linus compares GPT 4 to real-estate.
> 23:53 Linus on Merch Messages with GPT 4, Luke on IRC & selling tools.
> 27:31 Update on shadow-banning, discussing NDA & embargoes.
> 32:44 Linus's on algorithm = audience, 7900XT/X embargoes.
> 36:35 Shutting down "AliExpress" screwdriver & backpack argument.
> 39:36 Being unable to defend yourself, Luke on RTX 6000 comments.
> 43:33 Luke's video idea, James's "How to Make Good Linus Videos."
> 45:41 Laws of Linus #1: Never insult the audience.
[50:11] *Topic #3: Two major lawsuits on AI art generators.*
> 50:53 Stable Diffusion's habit of replicating "Getty Images" watermark.
> 52:06 AI replicating images, "remixing" copyrighted artwork.
> 53:05 Luke on using replicated AI images for mobile games.
> 55:04 Does it matter what the law is if the benefits outweigh negatives?
> 56:18 Reaction channels, fair use & UA-cam revenue.
> 1:06:18 Linus's "ethical reaction guidance," Luke on unfair usage.
> 1:09:02 Linus on unfair usage of LTT content & mutual agreement.
> 1:12:27 Floatplane Poll: "Reaction content" on submissions.
> 1:15:50 Linus on LMG's transformative reaction content.
> 1:17:44 LMG Clips's revenue & viewership V.S. timestamps.
> 1:19:43 Alex P still gets clickbaited into WAN clips.
> 1:20:55 Luke on "names of things matter," TARKOV short video.
[1:21:54] *Sponsors.*
> 1:22:04 Thorum's hand-made wedding bands & rings.
> 1:23:42 Audible's audio books.
> 1:25:37 Vessi Footwear.
[1:26:33] *WHEEL OF PAAAIN explained.*
[1:28:30] *WoP #1: Twitter apps broke, rules on 3rd party apps.*
> 1:30:26 Consulting firm not paid after forcing Elon to buy Twitter.
> 1:30:53 Luke tells Linus to "Sit the F down," argument starts.
> 1:37:01 Dan the Adjudicator, Luke to "shadow-ban" Linus.
[1:41:12] *WoP #2: Samsung to use old patent to ban TP screen imports.*
> 1:42:44 AFBF signs Right to Repair with JD, argument starts.
> 1:54:26 Dan the Adjudicator's, "defend the indefensible."
[1:58:59] Luke recalls Namco Ltd's patent, TESRenewal's Skyblivion.
[2:06:15] *LTTStore's new underwear designs.*
[2:07:32] *Merch Messages #1.*
> 2:08:14 Playing Runescape back in the day.
> 2:11:43 Account-locked phones as tech waste?
> 2:15:28 Merch Messages criticism from a Floatplane user.
> 2:18:32 What is Linus's process to choosing a supplier?
[2:22:36] *Topic #4: LTX 2023 update.*
> 2:23:01 LTX support, confirmed sponsors.
[2:23:59] *Topic #5: Linus on his investment in a NAS product.*
> 2:24:03 Linus recalls Framework, mistakes it with Floatplane.
> 2:25:36 Explaining the NAS software & the project's team.
[2:27:55] *Topic #6: Apple's new HomePod & Mini.*
> 2:28:56 M2 Pro & M2 Max, new Macbooks, possible SC videos.
> 2:30:10 Apple TV requires another Apple device to accept TOS.
> 2:31:25 Linus & Luke on AirPods & lack of firmware update.
> 2:33:10 "It's a bug," Linus on hand washer not working with POC.
> 2:36:39 Apple TV+'s horrific video quality on non-Apple devices.
[2:37:35] *Topic #7: Wyoming's bill to phase out EVs by 2035.*
> 2:41:32 Occasional battery rumors, Luke on materials.
[2:42:54] *Topic #8: Stadia's self-service to enable BT.*
[2:43:36] *Merch Messages #2.*
> 2:43:50 Thoughts on 10Gbps home fiber?
> 2:55:01 Addon that warns products using Labs reviews?
> 2:57:02 Advice for starting a job with an unfamiliar field?
> 3:00:11 What fictional technology do you wish to review?
> 3:01:25 Would you consider a team that investigates shady practices?
> 3:02:35 Explain the need behind improving WAN show.
> 3:12:26 10Gbps for 3-2-1 backups, wanting 4K3D, home of 40Gbps.
> 3:14:35 Tips of traveling with a newborn.
> 3:15:25 Experience with Valve Index & Quest 2 for Beat Saber.
> 3:17:12 What's your favorite dad joke?
> 3:18:15 Luke addresses 1Gb chat misconception.
> 3:19:05 Does Linus code?
> 3:22:35 Biggest struggle as a new developer after graduation?
> 3:25:22 chatGPT prompt on why one needs 10Gbps.
> 3:26:01 Being a successful UA-camr while keeping your life private?
> 3:28:39 How do you come up with products to develop & sell?
> 3:31:18 Did Luke try out Dark and Darker?
> 3:33:56 Does LMG have a gym for employees to use?
[3:35:40] *Outro.*
MVP
ayyyyy ty!
Yes!!!!
The hero we don't deserve..
The GOAT 🙌
This show was so long that, I started it shortly after it went live and I removed and replaced my medicine cabinet, cleaned the bathroom and then finished the show on the couch. 10/10. I want 5 hours next Friday!
Eff it let's make it an even 6 hours
@@maxtuledo5688 8 hour Wan
@@rustyshackleford5166 make it 12 hours
Just do a 24-hour stream at that point
Make it 24/7
Hey Luke, last show being the best was in no way related to you being silent, other than your amazing commitment to the bit. It was entirely Linus being unhinged and cussing constantly that made it hilarious.
it's not like he doesn't participate. he played along and it was entertaining.
Also Luke's facial expressions were king last week. Faces say more than 1000 words (and are funnier)
@Don't Read My Profile Picture don’t worry I won’t. What I will do is report as spam though, hope that suffices.
YEAH LUKE! We love ya being able to talk, so you can be berated and abused by Linus the overbearing opinionated sell-out shill. Keep it up!!
Yeah, Linus was litterarily speaking for two people. And manufacturing drama, and shit talking all by himself... It's like those radio shows back in the day.
Really liking the long WAN shows. And I do watch them all in their entirity. The LMGs main product for me is the wan show, and all other content is extra. It kinda flipped that way slowly when my interest in the latest hardware started dwindling.
Agreed, it's way more fun when it's less scripted and more just a chill podcast.
Great for long drives I might add.
I think the LTT Videos in general lost quality. Now its x new uninteresting Hosts showing some random keyboard nobody will ever see in stock or in a shop, or some cheap laptops or headphones. Most reviews seem sponsored or unnecessary.
Its not just new hardware being uninteresting. The products they show are uninteresting, since its not the products a person will buy. I would LOVE them to make a new video testing 10 different 13th gen Intel / RTX 40x0 Laptops and showing pros/cons, or a new Video showing 5-10 different new OLED technology TVs. Something that actually could help you make a purchase decision. Who cares about Keyboard Caps.
@@BatLB this is such a bad take
@@BatLBthey have an entire warehouse for just testing stuff, and they’ve also talked about how to make watchable content of just that, so that may or may not become a thing.
One new segment you guys may want to consider is the bathroom break. I bet it would be almost as popular with viewers as it would with the hosts.
I second that. Give us a half time show so you can eat and relieve yourselves, we'll wait, anything to get us to a consistent 4 hours.
8 hour wan shows would be the result haha
They just have bottles under the table
Linus or Luke, "I found this tidbit while in the bathroom....." *three more hours later* I would watch it lol
Most people are totally fine with/totally capable of just taking their phone to the bathroom with them if they have to go.. and if you watch from some immovable device, just grab your phone, access the stream, and do your thing withoutt missing a beat.... ALL without interrupting the rest of the world.
For "Defend the undefendable" segments, you should use a chess timer with each side getting 3 minutes overall and you click the timer when you've finished a point for the other to counter.
Or make it 3+2 so that more back and forth gives more time - I think seeing them try and back-and-forth more would make it far more funny
This very much, so arguments can be laid out clearly without it turning into who shouts louder competition.
this is some real wrinkle brain shit.
that was also my thought when he said a need for timer
চটকরৰরজর
Can we get Dan a small plushie maybe a banana to throw at linus and luke when they say Alright Dan hit us. I feel the surprise and shock factor would be hilarious
Long squeaky hammer
Blåhaj attack incomingggg
Linus: Are you going to let me finish?
Luke: No
I bust out laughing there I don't know why.
Toxic Luke 😡🥸 🤣
The WAN show has quickly become one of those podcasts I look forward to listening to during my work week. Last week's show was a real gem, and quite honestly I just need more quality podcasts to have to get through the week.
Same for me been regular since the last 20 weeks or so
agreed.
Petition to add a type of segment that allows Linus and Luke a bathroom break around halfway through the show
Timestamp guy gonna have a lot of work this weeks, bless his heart.
Would you happen to know if timestamp guy is paid or has an avenue for payment. I think he should get something for his trouble.
😂😂😂
@@rustyshackleford5166 especially this episode lol
@@rustyshackleford5166 they gave him a lttstore giftcard recently
@@ChaoticAuthority that's awesome! I hope they make it a routine thing. That guy makes the show convenient to watch for soooooo many people, myself included.
Linus telling Luke "Don't worry about it" when Luke says he has no idea what the Wheel of Pain is, has such big "Be not afraid" biblically accurate angel energy.
I absolutely love long form content. I hate shorts and will rarely watch a video less than 10 minutes. More than half of videos I watch are over an hour.
Thank you WAN Show for being this for me
Same, longer the better……. That’s also what she said.
I do enjoy the long form content but it feels like the WAN show has like tripled in length since I started watching. I'm not complaining because it's definitely my favourite podcast type thing that I can listen along to while working or playing a videogame.
I love specific long form videos that I can listen to while at work like podcasts are amazing for that. However, if I have to actually watch the video, the most I'll watch is an hour, and I'm never on Twitch for the same reason.
I like the longer WAN shows and the responding to merch messages. I just bought my first house in September and it is very quiet and lonely a lot of the time so thanks for keeping me company guys! :)
I’m so
"It is like half a work day"
Thank you! I watch this while working and love spending half of my day with Linus and Luke!
3 hours is 1/4th half a day
3.5 hour WAN show. I remember complaining about 50 minute WAN shows a few years ago.
Thanks boys
@DontReadMyProfilePicture.2k i wont
I remember Luke saying a few months ago that the length increased from 1 and a half hours ish, to 2 to 3 hours because of merch messages specifically. He was referring to specifically how merch messages sometimes send them (more specifically Linus) onto tangents that can become their own 15-30 minute mini segments.
Don't stop complaining until it's 168 hour WAN shows. ;-)
was 3hr55min for the floatplane gang
My take from this video. Linus thinks we are flies.
I honestly love the "Linus corrects misconceptions" video pitch idea. You stated that you might be worried about insulting the audience, but there's no reason it has to be structured that way. If users pose a question or state wrong information, you can recording yourself correcting them in a calm, informative manner. If the attitude is right, there's no room for insults. And for me personally, I would love to see videos like it because they sound very informative as I'm sure I have a thousand misconceptions about tech without even realizing it.
@@saulgoodman2018 you're quite literally the type of person he's talking about when he talks about this.
He has explained many, many times why he has gotten to this point. Seeing people not actually watch the content (in the same video) and comment dumb things like this. You're what he was talking about.
Luke deserves a chance to swear for a whole show now!
When Linus first brought out the wheel, I was apprehensive at best, expecting 'challenges' that have been so prolific lately.
That said, I love the random devil's advocate concept, and very much enjoyed the segment. Luke and Linus did amazing with this.
I love the wan showas a long format thing to keep my mind busy while i do stupid tasks. Long form content works wonders for it. Even if i cant watch it in a whole sitting i'll come back later/the next day and continue. Amazing stuff.
I appreciate the longer shows. It gives me something to put on in the background while I do stuff without the need to constantly pick up the phone to scroll for the next thing to listen to or to skip ads, and it's not just pointless background noise, I can actually learn about current tech events and occasionally learn life improvement tips as well!
Me too. Used to just listen to LMG clips, now I just put on the video in the background throughout the week. Hardly ever listen live, but I enjoy interacting with it throughout the week
I don't watch every ltt video, but I definitely watch every Wan show. It's long but it's all about things you guys are passionate about, which is usually the most interesting things going on in tech.
Actual passion is what drives me to watch a video.
I'll skip over a 10minute video on some random product that's not particularly interesting, but I'll gladly spend 3 hours listening to this whole show.
Timestamp guy, timestamp guy
Always on the WAN Show, never shy
With his trusty keyboard by his side
He'd timestamp every moment with pride
Chorus:
But this week, oh what a shame
Timestamp guy's on vacation, no more timestamps to claim
We miss his handy work, it's true
Timestamp guy, we're waiting for you
Verse 2:
We scroll through the comments with a sigh
No timestamps, it feels like we're running dry
We only need the times when they're hard to find
Only miss the timestamps when they're not there to remind
Chorus:
But this week, oh what a shame
Timestamp guy's on vacation, no more timestamps to claim
We miss his handy work, it's true
Timestamp guy, we're waiting for you
Verse 3:
Staring at the bottom of our screens
Hoping one day he'll come back it seems
But time goes slow and he's gone so fast
We see him when we close our eyes
Maybe one day we'll understand why
Everything he touched was so precise
Chorus:
But this week, oh what a shame
Timestamp guy's on vacation, no more timestamps to claim
We miss his handy work, it's true
Timestamp guy, we're waiting for you
Outro:
Cause you only need the timestamps when they're hard to find
Only miss the timestamps when they're not there to remind
Only know you love Timestamp guy when he's not on your mind
And you let him go.
Edit - attribution: ChatGPT wrote this as a parody version of Passenger's Let Her Go and it was too good not to share it.
Well, at least the poet guy is here. Great work!
@@someoneintheinternet7443 Nothing to do with it. ChatGPT made this all up as a parody version of Let Her Go. I usually hate AI spam but this was too good not to share. Attribution added.
@@pasikavecpruhovany7777 I knew it was ChatGPT before you even had to say it. Why? Because why the f*ck would you spend your time making a poem when you can make ChatGPT make it in like a minute. Hell yeah that's productivity baby.
Beautiful @ the timestamp guy too forgot his/her @
Great poem honoring The Timestamp Guy
I am genuinely in awe at how passionate linus is about some things. May he live 1 thousand years
Wow it's been 4 wan shows in row that it's getting better and better
Amazing work guys it was hard to watch because I'm short In time but it was worth it as always
We're going to get to a point where the WAN Show is just so long that it's a 24/7 stream
Linus has jumped off the stream to quickly grab new merch or something he wanted to show off spontaneously, when he figures out he can also go pee in a similar manner we will be in the end game.
I want this!
@@connormcawesomeface9350 he can just have a bucket underneath the table
@@raphaelboll6096 lvl 100 streamer with shitbucket.
@@connormcawesomeface9350 I'm perfectly okay with that. Linus can go pee thrice if he wants in a 6 hour WAN show, if that means we get more interesting and cool conversation and topics.
I actually appreciate that you got all Clips from the WAN show onto a separate channel. I was able to ask YT to not recommend that channel.
I'm one of those who watches every WAN show. I mainly miss it live, but that's okay, I love to watch it on Saturdays with time stamps.
I loved the devil’s advocate part. One more tip in addition to all the additions you proposed: make a hat with the devil's horns (when you are doing the role you wear it) so
1. The viewers can understand the context even if parts of this section get published completely out of context
2. I think it would make it even funnier to have to wear a prop that makes you the "devil's advocate"
That and a change to the bottom third to denote the segment
I didn't like the segment/format, but these would be improvements.
@@HonoredMule i think hey need to get experienced to make it more fluid and enjoyable. I am optimistic
@@filippocld There's a lot they could improve, but as long as they're still actively defending something they hate and without a leg to stand on, my soul will sympathetically hurt a little.
I really love how you guys have such a great dynamic together. I’m also envious of the whole office atmosphere and how there isn’t fear with the boss (unless probationary) but love, respect, humor, and the feelings of family. Love the content, love the jokes, love the devotion to building, maintaining, and learning. Keep being Great!
I love the wheel of pain idea! It really helps give alternate perspective which we can all use to help our own positions on the topics.
My biggest issue with the mass layoffs is that CEOs like Pichai, Nadella, Zuck etc. say they "take full responsibility" and then they send an email to lay off thousands...how is this taking responsibility? Did they resign? Do they take a pay cut? Do they suffer any negative effects from the layoffs? Why not? The over-stretching and over-staffing happened on their watch.
I think Sundar actually made like $10M based on stocks of Alphabet he owns worth almost $200M
0 accountability. Like our Governments who are also "responsible".
Bro they can cut the fat whenever they want the company belongs to the shareholders they are the ones who invested and when they want downsizing that is what they will get wether people cry about it or not
I actually don't understand...like can a company in America just...FIRE you? I am sorry, what do you mean? I have an active contract, I have no interest in getting fired and I will continue working like it says in my contact. Sure, you can pay me for 4-6 months and then I will consider resigning to find a new job. Doesn't the US have some laws for protecting the workers?
@@viv12348 unfortunately, many of the states that make up the United States are what are considered "Right To Work" states, which is a little bit misleading, because it would be more accurate to call it something like, a "right for an employer to fire employees at will with zero cause or warning" state. Essentially as the proposed name suggests, in a Right to Work state, employees have essentially **NO** right to work, or at the very least, no security in their job and can be fired at the whim of the employer, for no reason at all. So if an employer woke up on the wrong side of the bed and ended up firing you over it, if you're in a Right to Work state, you can do nothing about it. The only protection that employees have in these states are protections from discrimination and prejudice but so long as the employer doesn't expressly state that they are firing somebody for personal reasons stemming from prejudice or racism, ageism, sexism, etc., there would be no way to differentiate a firing of this kind from a justified firing the likes of which happen every day in Right to Work states.
Just to put it into context and add a personal anecdote, I was fired near the start of the pandemic and had been given zero warning. I was never issued any kind of warning or had even so much as an off the record conversation regarding my performance. There was literally zero indication that there was anything wrong with my performance. No warnings, no strikes, no "hey just a heads up..." So when I was told I was being let go, it completely blindsided me and to be perfectly honest, it ended up being somewhat traumatic since it's really hard for me to reconcile an action such as being fired with no cause or reasoning for said firing.
@@adawg3032 Sure, but it also means these CEOs let the company waste a ton of money on employees the company apparently doesn't need. For months, maybe years, they could've been making the shareholders more money, but these CEOs have burned these possible profits of shareholders for no good reason. I'd be mad as a shareholder.
My favorite dad joke: where do all dads keep their dad jokes? The dad-a base!
WAN SHOW! is my favorite, I listen every week. Love it. Keep them coming
The 10gb internet part has me dead cause I’m hoping to able to afford a 65mb internet connection soon here in Nigeria 😂
65 mb in Nigeria what are you one of those prices that try to give me money all the time. but I gues upgrading infrastructure is a lot easier if there is barely nay old infrastructure in the way.
Lol. I live here in Wisconsin, USA. I only get up to 10mbps of speed in my house of a mid size city of 68k+ population. Public places around here such as restaurants, hospitals gets up to 50mbps at most from my test.
So, more higher speed is much appreciated. Though, 10gb can be an over kill at the moment, if not for business uses. Anyway, hope you get your 65mb internet connection, though.
I work 12 hour days at a connector manufacturer and the long WANShows are awesome! Love listening while working and Luke's belly laugh always makes my day lol
I rarely comment but man... I love the WAN Show. Almost 4 hours? Thanks so much, really. It keeps me entertained thru the weekend.
WAN Show has increasingly become the main thing I watch on LTT. I respect both Linus and Luke and though I find myself siding with Luke more, I really value and respect both of their opinions.
@@Wheelman2004 I also mainly just watch WAN shows, LMG puts out way to much content for me to keep up (especially if I also want to keep up somewhat with other creators).
through the weekend? this is my background audio for war thunder for the next 4 hours
it really does. honestly other podcasts just feel like content but the WAN show feels like an experience. it’s just so fun. a reassuring constant presence in my life
True, I like the WAN Show but I don't sit around watching just that, I usually treat it kind of like a podcast and have it open in the background when I'm doing menial videogame stuff or work out or something like that
Linus dissing the M50X's is a whole new kind of hot take lmao
Calling them basically disposable is an insult and uncomfortable is very debatable. You can change the ear cups and they offer great sound for the price.
Linus starts to lose touch.
I personally really love these long form WAN shows. Keep up the awesome work guys
This is by far my favorite podcast/show. So much content of relevant news and fun topics. Thanks guys!
I feel like devils advocate could be it's own show. It's great
Viewer from Botswana here. I've watched every single WAN show for a very long time now. I hope it doesn't end. I watch the whole thing every time.
The reason those audio technica headphones got super popular a few years back is because of Marques from MKBHD. He wore them in most videos for years and constantly pushed them as the best bang for the buck "audiophile style" headphones. This was just as his channel was properly blowing up, just as he was leaving college.
Linus: I’ve rarely witnessed an aggressive approach winning an argument on the internet.
Dbrand: Hold my beer.
This feels like an old College Humor livestream with the "wheel of pain" showing up. Love the show
I think Luke's microphone volume needs to be increased a bit. He's pretty darn quiet at times, whereas Linus' is at a good volume.
I think they do it intentionally to drive engagement. It's sad, but a lot of creators have intentional mistakes to make people comment.
@user-bj6dp9eo4m well the audio is almost perfectly balanced normally so kind of a false statement... also luke recently had mouth surgery, maybe he is just talking a lil quieter also? Don't think so negative 😉
@thejdemon
They should/could adjust microphone volume levels live, Dan could probably have it setup so he can do it for them.
@PiousSlayer Maybe, but that would be noticed by live viewers in that case (if it was as unbalanced as your making it sound), audio has been wonky in episodes before and chat has chirped in and it has been fixed pretty fast, luke seems to pick up on it quickly if float plane or twitch bring it up in the chat.
I honestly can't even notice an audio issue listening from a mobile and I'm halfway through now, I think you're finding a non-issue, to be honest.
I know when previous shows talked about it, Luke tends to move farther away from the mike when they boost his audio, so they probably need to lower the audio he hears of himself in his headset maybe?
Usually a Saturday morning watcher, but love that you guys publish the audio on Mondays as a podcast. Sometimes the weekend gets away from me, and I appreciate it.
Loved the debate club segment. Hearing both sides of argument discourages group-think and makes for a more interesting discussion. Kudos!
Come on TimeStamp Guy, we're all eagerly waiting.
Either I'm watching his too early or the timestamps guy is on holiday. Timestamps guy is underrated.
I'm guessing YT banned him again
Yeah, I usually watch all of WAN show, but sometimes I want to skip a subject I don't care about at all.
@@daylen577 again?
The guy needs a rise
I don't feel like going back to check but didn't he say something about being gone for a week or two last week?
18:20 I consider myself an introvert so I empathize well with Linus' comment on shopping. The best thing about ChatGPT is that I know that it's AI and I won't feel belittled by asking asinine questions or commenting on something that is out of my league.
I'm an introvert by nature, who sprouted into an extrovert hybrid.
I think that's a lot of over worry. The vast majority of people who are decent persons will not belittle you for that, as they had to ask seemingly "stupid" questions in the past, too.
@@albertobueno7805 For us introverts, it doesn't matter how nice other people are, it's our worries about it that is the problem. In fact, it is sometimes easier to interact with assholes since those we can dismiss and not worry about. Sometimes, nice people are the worst.
I love the wheel of pain! I do suggest you don't make it a strictly weekly thing because some weeks there may just not be enough material for it. But definitely want to see it pop up now and then as it was entertaining & interesting.
Edit: posted this while watching and that addressed it later in the episode. All is well
What I do is basically put the WAN Show on every morning while I’m getting ready for my college classes. Honestly it’s a pretty great way to start your day!
The wheel of pain is an amazing idea. I love it. I want to do something similar with some arguments I have at work.
PS, I watch wan show and then find myself rewatching via the clips as well. I can't explain my decisions.
on watching long form content, I love the 3 hour wan shows.
they drop just in time for me to start it when I get up in Saturday, giving me basically a good radio show that I don't need to interact with while I'm cleaning or making firewood or whatever. it's not content that I actively engage with, for sure.
i wanna make firewood
And now we wait for the Timestamp guy
Maybe ChatGPT is able to create so time stamps since Linus isn’t 🤔
@@dex7492 If only it had access to information past 2021...
LMG clips is the reason I now watch the entire WAN show every week and now that I watch WAN i never have the need to watch LMG clips lmao
1:55:22 i can't really explain why but i would love to see producer Dan wear swagger sun-glasses when he pops up on screen
I love the long WAN shows, I can watch it in my free time throughout an entire day.
I would suggest for future Wheel of Pain segments to follow a competitive debate structure: one person makes their case for the position, and the other person makes their case against the position. The audience and Dan can then decide who they think made the more convincing argument.
Note: A convincing argument does not mean it's the 'right' argument, it only means it was more convincing.
The VR plushie should double as a sleep mask, lol
This is a brilliant idea, I still haven't seen the plushie (in the middle of watching) but I'll second this regardless.
Twitter segment : 1. Get rid of the bots, by stopping how they are made - the API. 2. All users on one app for add-ons testing & voting. 3. To make money on Ad's with guaranteed views from real people & not bots. Creating profit & raising price of ad's.
The Wan Show vs LMG clips argument is really a great example of differen stuff for different folks.
I love the full Wan Show for when I'm traveling and/or have it in the background while doing something. I love the clips when I don't have time and want to consume the content in small bits between my activities.
Time stamp guy where are you? we need you 🥺😭😭😭😭
Great show, WAN Show is by far my favourite when it comes to LTT content. I like formats that take time to talk about things, behind the scenes etc. Like most podcast style shows, I just listen to it with 1.5x speed and wouldn t watch it live (time difference would make the basically impossible either way). Always looking forward to my weekly WAN show on Saturday :).
I used to give apple the benefit of the doubt till I worked at Apple Support. The "buy your mom an iPhone" was the confirmation anyone would ever need.
For the next Defend the Undefendable section, please have Producer Dan dress up as Chewbacca and make Luke to give the South Park Chewbacca Defense!!!!
This is the WAN show version of “Defend the indefensible” from the BBC Radio 5 Live show “Fighting Talk”. I love that there and I love this version of it.
This was an amazing WAN show. You should work out a way for one host to take over for a few minutes while the other has a bio-break.
Also, The WAN show is my favorite part of LTT and it keeps me coming back every week.
Kudos to all 3 of you, and I can't wait to see what the future brings.
@@nedflanders4158 bathroom mostly
@@nedflanders4158 I did. A Bio-break is a break to take care of biological needs.
I always feel like I gained one point of int and empathy after the show:D
Thanks guys!
And when the world needed Timestamp guy most, he vanished…
WAN is a highlight of my week, while I’m always working when you’re live I make sure to listen to it in snippets throughout the week from beginning to end.
Linus' work around to not directly insulting his audience: "I'm not supposed to say THIS about someone"
Had my M50-X for years now and love them, audio quality is good, they're durable and the cables provided have not got damaged even with me running my chair over them many times. For £110 they're not exactly cheap but they're a good pick I think
Had mine since 2015 and they’re still fantastic and can really be pushed hard without distortion. Better than my old Sennheisers…but they did cost more.
Yes, I consider that reaction content. I watch a pet UA-camr that reacts to their sub's habitats and setups (food water storage, litter box, bedding, etc.) for their pets. They generally give their stamp of approval or say what could be done better. Something like this could easily work for tech, namely PC builds.
Great thing that you gave Skyblivion a shoutout! Team deserves it, hard working lads & lasses!
LMG clips is what exposed me to this podcast, I know only watch the full thing but seeing the clips pop up in my feed (which is more likely to happen over than the actual thing) makes me go out of my way to get to the full one, so even in just that regard I think the clips is worth it
"Thinking of the Queen" is the best euphemism.
You're wan clips are actually what brought me to listening to the whole wan show. Hard to watch while working but totally with listening too.
Personally I love long wan shows
the longer the better!
The wheel of pain was so much fun I was having a blast the whole time I hope everyone else likes it too so it becomes a staple of the show
Those WANs are getting longer and longer but I am not the one that would complain.
For the past 3 years orso, i watch the wan show on youtube everyweek. The full thing while i am doing gaming and stuff. I can't watch it live because it's like 3am in my time zone. very much enjoy it every week. Hopes it never stops
The Wheel of PAIN is a winner! I like the argument/counter-argument. Suggest a 2-minute summary, a 2-minute defense, a 2-minute counter, another 2-minute response, then Dan decides.
"Hey chatgpt, what is the definition of intrusive advertisement?" Chatgpt "im sorry, did you just say you want me to add chatgpt box to your cart"
Luke talking about how the wan show takes half a workday to consume is actually a positive for me
Every other Friday I work a 12 hour night shift. You best believe I listen to WAN show as I do my job, but when Im free on Fridays not so much I need timestamp guy lol.
Can you guys combine the merch message question and answer on one slide? many times ive had to scroll back and forth to see each. Keep up the good work, thanks!
I love long format WAN show, but I still occasionally watch clips because they're like highlights in sports.
I was recently a tech for Sprint going back about 10 years. EVERY model phone has a A-Z guide on how to disassemble and repair any removable part inside before it launches, complete with full color photos, and all of the tools/jigs/etc are also already available. Mind you, these are "third party" not directly from Samsung/Moto/Apple/Etc but the company that makes all of these tools has contract agreements with the parent companies, so extending that to allow customers to download the .pdf files for repair wouldn't be an issue at all. That being said... the parts that are used, with the exception of Apple (because each internal piece of the iphone/ipad/etc has its own serial number that is actually attached to the MEID/IMEI of the phone itself, so a repair has a final step of attaching the new serial number to the device in Apple's internal systems) are NOT OEM, are third party, but are certified by "Insert Samsufacturer here ;)" to be a direct replacement.
That being said... Samsung has no business telling me what device I SHOULD be buying... because even though they're "almost" the same price as a replacement screen ($250 for my Note 10+, for example) vs the Galaxy A53 5G that is $345 (if I use the "Cracked Note 10+ trade-in" to get $105 off) I'd still not have the phone I want, in the color I want, with the specs I want... I'd be going from Aura Glow color to Regular black, 6.8" screen to 6.5", no stylus, 12GB ram to 6GB, 256G ROM to 128GB, lower resolution... I'm not a big user of the camera so that's nothing I'm worried about...
I love that the new producer was ask to make wan show better, and inmediatly she said "ok, Lets add conflict"
1 Linus AND Luke can handle it
2 it IS enterteiment
Would like a segment with Sara speaking about ai generated images, since maybe she would not appreciate when Linus Said "imagine doing a children's book in a weekend"
I think Linus actually did most of the Children's book himself with Sarah doing the art.
@@grn1 i hope you understand that even ir true, the labor intensive part of the book Is the art
I imagine employees at the jewelry shop just trying to get an autograph or selfie with Linus but are too shy to ask 😂
Tech store sure, jewellery? Low chance me thinks
The length of this WAN takes me back to the days of watching PC builds all the time.
The wheel of pain was great, I look forward to seeing the new segments!
Linus playing devil’s advocate sounds like chatGPT when it’s confidently wrong. Great show.
Luke has always been my favorite person to listen to
Human nature is so ridiculous and often awful, Luke and Linus. Many of us appreciate you, the stupid, belittling and hair-pulling things you go through, and greatly care about you and your well-being. Please be well and know that we recognize the frustrations and angering things you share with us and that there are things you go through that you may not share with us. We are here to support you and help you grow. Much love.
@NoKi1119(timestamp guy) don't worry and take your time as this is one of the biggest Wan show.
Has he posted yet?
A pro-tip for company owners and investors: if the lay-off is absolutely inevitable, start with cutting the top-tier and upper-mid management positions. 1 It is their fault. 2 You save a hecking lot of money. 3 You retain a lot of your personnel's loyalty and efficiency.
I consume basically all of my YT content while commuting to and from work. I basically only click one video, anything else I just have to press "skip" and hope eventually it recommends/auto plays something I like.
@NoKi1119 (timestamp guy) has a big challenge on his hands, timestamping possibly the longest WAN show ever!
Keep up the good work 👍
Goodluck to the timestamps guy