Oh really? PETER Hitchens? THAT thought makes me want to clean a public toilet instead. With my tongue. What an odious, thick headed hard right Christ Clapping dilettante he is. An embarrassment to his great brother's memory. No thx. D.A., NYC
@David Anderson So you reveal yourself to be deeply emotionally intolerant to those different to yourself and self-righteous about your own positions. Additionally you appear unable to separate your emotions from a reasonable appraisal of the facts. Regardless of how you feel about Peter Hitchens or what you think about his positions, (& especially if you are praising his deceased brother), you cannot seriously claim Peter to be unintelligent, ignorant or slow-witted or poorly educated given they have the same family & educational backgrounds. As for ‘hard right’, this is the laughable assertion of people who are either ignorant of or compartmentalising their thinking from the actual spectrum of beliefs both in this country currently, the world generally & history more broadly. He is a 20th Century British Liberal. ‘Christ clapping’, as if this were a genuine insult, let alone not a laughably inaccurate descriptor of how anyone who had seen Peter Hitchens for a few minutes would know of his steely decorum & really just reveals your own conceited, haughty & supercilious character. He is a professional journalist and writer, has been for decades, full-time, paid, even salaried, so your pejorative description not him as a dilettante is inaccurate & only holds true in a neutral manner regarding the ways he, as all of us -including you, has amateur interests. Peter Hitchens admirably balances & compliments his brother’s reputation, both as a journalist, a writer, a public commentator and a well known British character throughout the Anglosphere. It is you, with displays such as these that is an embarrassment to his brother’s memory, for associating his admirers with such ill-thought out unnecessary acrimony.
A little too measured, I feel. He seems to heavily censor his own thinking at the same time as criticising others for self-censorship. Intellectual intergity is important regarding the topics on which he's willing to speak, but not so valuable when it comes to the subjects and views he knows his publisher and the mainstream networks won't tolerate. Well done Douglas. So brave!
@@jley1823 if this is in fact what he is doing, I think it is a brilliant tactic to get his message out of the echo chamber. The "left" has been doing the same thing for a couple of generations in order to subvert the political centrists and those right of centre via "the long march through the institutions".
@philajfran It's not the former, he's very well read and very well traveled, surely he knows why Europe is so keen on taking in 'refugees' but he doesn't say it to his readers. Rather, he goes on and on about identity politics which is nothing but bread and circuses
@philajfran 'Demographic transition'? Is that what Angela Merkel said to Germans when she authorised a million 'asylum seekers' to flood into Germany a few years ago?
@philajfran If by "cluelessly delusional" you mean he challenges trolls that call people with different values & ideas, "cluelessly delusional", then yes, you're right!"
@philajfran Again, your post reveals why many of us admire Douglas. He calls out people like you who call people with different views "cluelessly delusional, racist, sexist, homophobic", etc. Ad hominem attacks are used to intimidate & silence people, & Douglas refuses to fall into that trap.
@philajfran I don't agree w/ anyone on EVERYTHING they say. The difference between a reasonable person & you, is the reasonable person can disagree w/ someone without being self-righteous enough to be convinced of their racism, sexism, homophobia, or ignorance. The world is, & will always be full of people who think differently than you. You may as well get over it now & save yourself from all the grief that comes from expecting people to share your every value, attitude, & belief.
Emily Maitlis, can virtue signal all she wants from her ivory tower, she has a career that pays her handsomely, a remuneration that the vast majority of the population could only dream of and there she is spouting about equality. What do you mean by equality Emily? Should we ALL be on the salary you enjoy? Or are you prepared to take a massive hit and come down to earth with a bang and a reality check? Which is it Emily?
I found some Lobbists around the world by accident who earn anywhere from 100,000.00k annually up to 700,000.00 k annually. WTF? Many of these people mold minds and destroy lives and businesses. Unfortunately their targets are usually unworthy of destruction.
@@samueltunnicliffe7012 Sam, I will be fair to her and the BBC when they become proper journalists instead of activists and start to deliver balanced views instead of continual left wing propaganda.
@fynes leigh , your statement is obviously not true. "... you are strictly on your own, titch"?? That's what you have to say? This person is _echoing_ the opinion of SOMEONE ELSE. How then, is this person "Strictly" running on their own opinion?? When they are _literally,_ VERBATIM _repeating_ the opinion of ANOTHER person?! I seriously HATE the comment area. It trends me towards hating people in general, ie. hating humanity, and I do _not_ hate people. I DO hate the _abject_ ignorance SO often expressed in these comments. Case in point.
Was he always jacked just recently decided to get his swell on? Must be the effect of turning 40. Great to have a regular diet of these long form discussions.
@fynes leigh Technically, what you say is correct, but I think that the Weimar analogy is not appropriate in this situation. Wartime spending is driven by the consumption of resources to build arms and costly equipment that is usually destroyed, along with life and infrastructure, in other words, real stuff that costs real money. In the COVID case, money need not be printed because, quite frankly, other than N95 masks, we are in fact consuming less resources than in "normal" times. The money printing currently underway is criminal, but it will be limited. It will result in some inflation as there is more money chasing the same (or fewer) goods in the market, IMHO, but nothing like the Weimar situation.
@fynes leigh no, I basically agree with your reasoning on the fiat money issue. Where I disagree with you is that the virus situation in which we currently find ourselves has different economic pressures than kinetic warfare.
“If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” Malcolm X
And he is the great example of a gay man who acknowledges that his rights are equal to everyone elses as fought for and granted by law and now takes his place in the public forum without still making it an issue or using it narcisstically in political conflict..
There as so many immigrants working in the NHS because consecutive govts have made it difficult for Brits to train. Student nurses not only have to pay their tuition fees but also PAY the hospital they do their training in. Very few working class people become student doctors. Where are the left about these issues?
Let's blame the immigrants mayne it's the brits who don't like working to busy on Facebook and Instagram. Go to a hospital and see how hard the immigrants work in the NHS
@@carbonfibercrypto2919 How so for years immigrants do jobs seemingly one's the people here don't like doing. Cleaners, picking fruit, cafés etc etc if the immigrants are taking the jobs why don't they do them
@@carbonfibercrypto2919 Don't know I know a few employers who say most people turn their noses down at these jobs, though I agree wages ain't good, I work low pay, on the whole the hospitality sector would not run without immigration
@Lone Wolf Don't agree with you, was this not the same after the 2nd World War, the British government asked immigration into the country to do jobs brits weren't taking up. Sadly its the same immigrants taking the jobs I know lots of people who just don't want to work in hospitals or hospitality it's not their cup of tea
@Lone Wolf I don't claim to be right on issues but I know people who say they would not work in certain industries, it's hard to take but to blame immigration for one's own problems is also wrong I definitely think the younger generation only want Facebook and Instagram and x factor
This is the first time I have been disappointed in something Douglas says, or writes. His dismissal of eloquent minds such as Peter Hitchens, Professor Johan Giesecke, and Lord Sumption, as "people on the fringe" because they refuse to SUBMIT, unquestioningly to the 'wisdom' of British politicians: and feel this over-reaction reveals more about human immaturity concerning life, risk, and suffering, than it does about 'evidence-based' scientific practice, is truly worrying. Human Beings live for 'quality' of life, rather than 'quantity' of it: and some of us will take extraordinary risks to enhance the joy they get out of being alive (eg Mountaineers and cliff-climbers). We are mortal: and this has revealed a Nation in denial of that fact.
I agree, because Sweden is an exemple of how things can be tackled differently. So far the swedish health care system hasn't been overwhelmed. Perhaps it is to early to give an answer whether Sweden has chosen a better way. Hopefully time will tell.
@@piushalg8175 Thank you for the comment Pius! I have been watching Sweden carefully. Thankfully, Sweden has a Constitution which specifically forbids its Government from doing what the British Government - in its human immaturity - is doing. Sweden has far wiser counsels, I think.
Reading these two books now (well, The strange Death of Europe at the moment). My anger & dismay are slightly offset by Murray’s common sense, practical understanding and precise description of the subject make it totally absorbing! When they talk I tend to listen, along with Jordan Peterson we have 2 extremely powerful intellects, who preach, an honest, common sensical description of what is going on, beyond the sinister drivel we hear from MSM and they woke Media! I’m sick of it, and glad that we have the chance to listen to people like these!!!
I'm in no way a fan of the Chinese regime, but I'm not sure we can blame this one on them. I'm with Peter Hitchens, it seems hubristic to assume if China had provided perfectly accurate statistics we'd be anywhere different.
Two things I'd disagree on with Douglas: 1. its difficult to actually say whether or not an economic recession/ depression won't cause more deaths than the overspilling of patients in hospitals from Covid-19 because the death toll will be far more subtle and will not present itself in such an obvious way. 2. The 5g issue has been raging for years now, it's that coronavirus has been a catalyst for the damage to the masts: this is what happens when people don't feel like they've been listened to or taken seriously, so their actions to me are not all that surprising, even if I don't endorse them.
Samuel Poulston - I agree with you. Despite the fact that I don’t condone the burning of cell towers, empathy for the people who did that will be far more constructive in terms of resolving the behavior than scorn. Scorn will only serve to push those people into embracing their delusions harder.
You seem the type to argue that men only diddle kids because they "don't feel like they've been listened to or taken seriously". Bad people are precisely that. Stop making excuses for them.
Sarah Jessica Farter - If your style of arguing is to put words in my mouth then so be it. It does nothing to change my mind about what I actually said.
Regarding SJWs... Has anyone else noticed that we have created two classes of people here? Those whose health and lives we deem it acceptable to risk, and those who deserve total protection at the expense of the former? And that expense is not only in risk to health and life, mind you. It's also in the tax burden. Health workers (except in the US) are paid for by taxes, so I'm sorry, they aren't the people who will inevitably foot the bill for this (yes they pay taxes, but they are net tax consumers, not net tax contributors). So it falls to private sector workers who are deemed essential, many of them in low-wage jobs, who are bearing a double burden right now. My daughter is one of these, paying in both risk and taxes so that others can collect taxes and not face that risk. Every day she puts on her steel-toed boots, rides the bus to work, and unloads trucks at Walmart. And I'm sorry, but she'd rather have mandatory hazard pay, or her income taxes waived, or even a "coronavirus essential worker tax credit" than all the blathering and virtue signalling about how much everyone appreciates the courage and sacrifice of essential workers. Half our country is sitting on its asses being served by her, all while the bill for this gets bigger and bigger. She's 23. She had inherited $30,000+ of government debt burden before she filled her first diaper (or nappy, as you say). I shudder to think what that sum is now, or will be at the end of this. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not whining about it. But I do think it's odd that every person on social media with preferred pronouns in their profiles appears to be supporting the lockdown and resisting lifting or easing it, despite the fact that it has created an exploited underclass of low-paid, high-risk workers who are essentially (pun intended) carrying the entire bag.
It is always a pleasure to listen to Douglas Murray. The moment has come where a country, Britain, has shown and will show more unity than others. This is the British spirit that lots of people have mocked for years. Well done. Again the silent heroes that make Britain, its own people, workers, anyone who contributes to the society show their iron core.
I really can't describe why but I feel mildly irritated when I think about the idea that we have gained trust in the institutions. The NHS, 85 percent home grown British 15 percent imported. Britain 20 percent none native. Therefore no gain what so ever. Look up Sargon of Akad on the subject.
Trevor Bacon Finally, a comment bringing up this glaring lie, that the media are perpetuating , that immigrants make up more of the NHS than the indigenous population.I watched his video and he’s bang on about them working here for money, not out of the goodness of their hearts.
The one thing that people outside of the US seem to not recognize is that all of American society was fixated on the impeachment trial so no one inside the gov. or civil service or media paid any attention to what was happening in the rest of the world when the pandemic started. As a Canadian I have a catbird seat. The US overall pays little attention to much outside of the US but at this time there wasn't even any attention to other issues or events in the US it was all Washington and impeachment. So they get more of a pass on being unprepared than the UK or Spain who had the example of Italy but didn't act in time. Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong and South Korea functioned how gov. should respond. Stellar responses.
"Eeeee! I wouldn't say Douglas was muscular but...............when he goes through a door in his house he goes through a door in his house". Thank you very much Laddies and Gentlemen I'm here online until the Covid-19 lock down is lifted. Thank you very much. You've been great. Thank you.
We need economists to get together to see how we can resolve the global crisis. Being unable to recognise Taiwan was problematic & how China was buying billions of dollars worth of medical supplies in January by non medical businesses & then sending them to China leaving the rest of the world short needs to be discussed because the shortages have not been questioned or explained
I've been re-reading (after 40 years) Daniel Defoe's 'A Journal of the Plague Year'. The social panic, and the spontaneous ignition of wildfire conspiracy theories, was identical in the London of the early 1600's.
I agree with Douglas, we don't listen to reporters to be morally educated, lectured, uplifted. I would expect to look to politicians amongst others for that kind of elucidation. Reporters should introduce us to, hopefully, reliable purveyors of wisdom. Unfortunately on the political front there is a dearth of politicians (especially in US) capable of moral leadership.
Douglas Murray, truth seeker who speaks the truth. I love truth seekers. As long as we intelligently seek the truth we will be just fine. Don't get sidetracked with social justice warriors who want quotas, misery shared equally, and special interest groups to win and lose. Protect yourself.
You are a great interviewer, Joe - even if you did have stars in your eyes. You are forgiven, I would have been the same. A great job, asking incisive questions and coming up with rational and cautious counters. Subscribed.
also, the amount of NHS staff who have died of covid is also disproportionate, and higher number are darker of skin. i hardly think we can reallistically claim that these doctors / surgeons are living in poor socio economic conditions
I always ask this question but PLEASE if anyone talks to Douglas, can they ask him to post a picture of the books in his library?! Every time I see him do these webcam interviews, I always want to know what book are on his shelf (aside from his own of course). Please ask him if you ever get a chance. I know this is a long shot, but it would just mean so much to me. I have read almost everything he has ever written and I normally read or buy what he suggests to read. Geez, I sound like a Douglas Murray groupie...
The Gates Foundation have donated millions to PATH, who conducted large scale clinical trials in Africa and South Asia. According to Vera Sharav who is part of Alliance for Research Protection, in 2010 PATH administered the HPV vaccine was given to 23,000 girls between 10-14yrs old to guard against cervical cancers as part of a “demonstrational study”. 7 adolescent tribal girls died after receiving the vaccine. 1,200 girls experienced extreme side effects of developed auto-immense disorders, according to Indian Physicians who state no follow up examinations or medical care were offered to the victims. Further investigations revealed persuasive violations of ethical norms: vulnerable village girls were virtually press-ganged into the trials, their parents bullied into signing consent forms they couldn’t read by PATH representatives, who made false claims about safety and efficacy of the drugs. Many signatures were formed. An Indian Parliamentary Committee determined the Gates-funded vaccine campaign was in fact a large scale clinical trial conducted on behalf of the pharmaceutical firms and disguised as an “observational study” in order to outflank statutory requirements. The committee found that PATH had “violated all les and regulations laid down for trials by the government in a clear-cut violation of human rights and a case of child abuse”. www.newdemocracyworld.org/culture/gates.html
This is a great Leveller. Everyone in the world has been affected by this. Everyone’s plans have been interrupted. Everyone’s lively hood is at risk. Everyone has family members who are at risk from dying. What does rich or poor have to do with it?
'It will be a rocky and tortuous road, but one we must travel' Our identity comes from family, village, town, city, state (region), country. in all we have a common society, culture and history. In all there is a sense of family. Perhaps, one day, in the future we humans will include the planet earth as part of the extended family. Perhaps one day ‘we’ will find a way of governing the planet that is benign and not susceptible to corruption. Perhaps ….. In the meantime it is nationalism that is triumphing. As the world comes out of this, it is an opportunity to come together as one world. Instead of looking to blame, we should be looking for ways to work together as nations. My heart lies in nationalism, but my eyes look to a better future. It will be a rocky and tortuous road, but one we must travel.
In November the President of the United States emphasized that November was National Preparedness Month. I am not a prepper person and I would have been embarrassed to become one. HOWEVER, on that day I contacted someone who I expected might have some warning about an impending event. 5 Eyes, perhaps? There must certainly have been some chatter warning our leaders of trouble. Also, France was affected early on at a ski lodge, I think. How did they know to try hydroxychloroquine? This and azithromyacine seem to have been a KNOWN treatment. If this bio-weapon was released (and it does seem to be a planned release) there was certainly a treatment known to those who released it.
Good interview, but a bigger point is, when did Douglas get so ripped?! Did anybody else see the gun show at the beginning when he pointed at his book? He's getting swoll with his extra time!
I'm up for more than a financial reckoning with China ... an intellectual one in the universities and think tanka too The financial one needs to be much more broad than just trade and supply chains too. It need to include charitable donations , think tank funding, etc..
Up until now have always respected (and liked) D Murray's views. Being simplistic(cant help it!! sums me up-ok Im stupit)) he sadly seems very kowtow to me towards authoritarian/state views. At least P Hitchens is raising valid ?s
“What if this is just a prelude...?” Well, I don’t know. Global debt is at about twice the level it was pre-Global Financial Crisis (2007/08); but interest rates sit near 0% (little room left for monetary policy); governments’ biggest answer to the debt crisis has been to print more money and pump in more debt, demographics keep pointing to aging populations,.... nah, it’ll be fine!
Just a thought and open to critique. If the government wishes to retain the trust of the people it would be in it's own interest to put back some trust in the people themselves, and therefore to downgrade their recent dictats to the status of advice and let each of us decide our own priorities and risk/benefit assessments. As a white man in my 60s I seem to have finally been blessed with a kind of victim status that forms part of the justification for the shutdown of civil liberties for those who are apparently privileged to be less vulnerable. I appreciate all the help I can get but only when given in a spirit of generosity. It is utterly repugnant to me that others should be compelled by law to sacrifice on my behalf.
Interested in another extended coronavirus interview? We spoke to Peter Hitchens last week: ua-cam.com/video/gIJa4YtW7as/v-deo.html
thanks for this, great get.
Oh really? PETER Hitchens? THAT thought makes me want to clean a public toilet instead. With my tongue. What an odious, thick headed hard right Christ Clapping dilettante he is. An embarrassment to his great brother's memory. No thx. D.A., NYC
Great content! Keep it up please if possible
philajfran well if you think Douglas Murray is delusional I got some upsetting news for you, it’s yourself that is delusional
@David Anderson
So you reveal yourself to be deeply emotionally intolerant to those different to yourself and self-righteous about your own positions.
Additionally you appear unable to separate your emotions from a reasonable appraisal of the facts.
Regardless of how you feel about Peter Hitchens or what you think about his positions, (& especially if you are praising his deceased brother), you cannot seriously claim Peter to be unintelligent, ignorant or slow-witted or poorly educated given they have the same family & educational backgrounds.
As for ‘hard right’, this is the laughable assertion of people who are either ignorant of or compartmentalising their thinking from the actual spectrum of beliefs both in this country currently, the world generally & history more broadly. He is a 20th Century British Liberal.
‘Christ clapping’, as if this were a genuine insult, let alone not a laughably inaccurate descriptor of how anyone who had seen Peter Hitchens for a few minutes would know of his steely decorum & really just reveals your own conceited, haughty & supercilious character.
He is a professional journalist and writer, has been for decades, full-time, paid, even salaried, so your pejorative description not him as a dilettante is inaccurate & only holds true in a neutral manner regarding the ways he, as all of us -including you, has amateur interests.
Peter Hitchens admirably balances & compliments his brother’s reputation, both as a journalist, a writer, a public commentator and a well known British character throughout the Anglosphere.
It is you, with displays such as these that is an embarrassment to his brother’s memory, for associating his admirers with such ill-thought out unnecessary acrimony.
Douglas Murray, always measured, always thoughtful, always worth listening to.
A little too measured, I feel. He seems to heavily censor his own thinking at the same time as criticising others for self-censorship. Intellectual intergity is important regarding the topics on which he's willing to speak, but not so valuable when it comes to the subjects and views he knows his publisher and the mainstream networks won't tolerate. Well done Douglas. So brave!
@@jley1823 if this is in fact what he is doing, I think it is a brilliant tactic to get his message out of the echo chamber.
The "left" has been doing the same thing for a couple of generations in order to subvert the political centrists and those right of centre via "the long march through the institutions".
Jean Anne Zionist shill
@Trouble Came Calling most of the left resort to lying. The ones that don't lie are centrists.
@philajfran nice unsubstantiated ad hominem care to flesh it ou
I just love listening to Douglas Murray. He talks so sensibly and is so easy to understand
@philajfran Yeah I find his theory that Europe is committing suicide out of colonial guilt utterly ridiculous, he can't possibly believe that
@philajfran It's not the former, he's very well read and very well traveled, surely he knows why Europe is so keen on taking in 'refugees' but he doesn't say it to his readers. Rather, he goes on and on about identity politics which is nothing but bread and circuses
i love your cat icon AND listenling to D. Murray - Brilliant, articulate and unfortunately gay. What a waste for womankind.
I love him, own one of his books and he's gorgeous to boot.
@philajfran 'Demographic transition'? Is that what Angela Merkel said to Germans when she authorised a million 'asylum seekers' to flood into Germany a few years ago?
Kudos to the interviewer for asking intelligent questions & letting Douglas actually answer. Very rare these days.
craig bitts I totally agree. Interviewers are more interested in hearing their own voices than listening to their guests answers.
@philajfran If by "cluelessly delusional" you mean he challenges trolls that call people with different values & ideas, "cluelessly delusional", then yes, you're right!"
@philajfran Again, your post reveals why many of us admire Douglas. He calls out people like you who call people with different views "cluelessly delusional, racist, sexist, homophobic", etc. Ad hominem attacks are used to intimidate & silence people, & Douglas refuses to fall into that trap.
@philajfran I don't agree w/ anyone on EVERYTHING they say. The difference between a reasonable person & you, is the reasonable person can disagree w/ someone without being self-righteous enough to be convinced of their racism, sexism, homophobia, or ignorance. The world is, & will always be full of people who think differently than you. You may as well get over it now & save yourself from all the grief that comes from expecting people to share your every value, attitude, & belief.
@philajfran You should probably go back into your bubble, you're obviously in need of a safe space. 😀
Emily Maitlis, can virtue signal all she wants from her ivory tower, she has a career that pays her handsomely, a remuneration that the vast majority of the population could only dream of and there she is spouting about equality. What do you mean by equality Emily? Should we ALL be on the salary you enjoy? Or are you prepared to take a massive hit and come down to earth with a bang and a reality check? Which is it Emily?
A bang and a cheque down on the earth, but no hitting.
I found some Lobbists around the world by accident who earn anywhere from 100,000.00k annually up to 700,000.00 k annually. WTF? Many of these people mold minds and destroy lives and businesses. Unfortunately their targets are usually unworthy of destruction.
In fairness to Emily, her point was reasonable. I don't think it was the platform but...
@@samueltunnicliffe7012 Sam, I will be fair to her and the BBC when they become proper journalists instead of activists and start to deliver balanced views instead of continual left wing propaganda.
Maitlis is Avery bad journalist with bad and silly opinions.
I'm a simple lady: I see Douglas Murray, I click.
Same here, although I'm not a lady. Sometimes the algorithm works well.
I Would call that "a well informed lady."
Arthritis,is it?
I'm a simple bloke: I see Douglas Murray, I click as well.
Nivya Prasad Iunderstand 😂
20:12 -- "We don't consume the media in order to be morally improved by journalists."
BINGO.
@fynes leigh , your statement is obviously not true. "... you are strictly on your own, titch"?? That's what you have to say? This person is _echoing_ the opinion of SOMEONE ELSE. How then, is this person "Strictly" running on their own opinion?? When they are _literally,_ VERBATIM _repeating_ the opinion of ANOTHER person?!
I seriously HATE the comment area. It trends me towards hating people in general, ie. hating humanity, and I do _not_ hate people. I DO hate the _abject_ ignorance SO often expressed in these comments. Case in point.
I've seen Arnie Scharzenegger with his home virus videos. But let's face it, even he hasn't got muscles like Douglas these days.
He’s getting buff isn’t he.
Get a room boys.
Eyelid surgery I suspect, next to gym, wardrobe and haircut reset. Teeth fix maybe. No shave, and voila.
Douglas must have a decent gym at his house maybe that or he's been reading really heavy books.
Mark Macdonald yeah, I thought he was looking pretty ripped 💪
Zachary Scott - It's because he's at home, not wearing his sports jacket. He looks verrry nice. 😀
Was he always jacked just recently decided to get his swell on? Must be the effect of turning 40. Great to have a regular diet of these long form discussions.
Hitchslap to be honest, some recent interviews I’ve seen him on he looked really skinny. Must have a home gym he’s getting to know while on lockdown!
I noticed that gun show in the first 10 seconds too! Douglas looks so well at the moment but those guns are smoking!
How about a Hurrah for those of us who have zero debt. Only took what we could pay for. What a concept!
Of course, savers will be further punished by the printing of fiat and the inevitable inflation.
@fynes leigh Technically, what you say is correct, but I think that the Weimar analogy is not appropriate in this situation.
Wartime spending is driven by the consumption of resources to build arms and costly equipment that is usually destroyed, along with life and infrastructure, in other words, real stuff that costs real money.
In the COVID case, money need not be printed because, quite frankly, other than N95 masks, we are in fact consuming less resources than in "normal" times.
The money printing currently underway is criminal, but it will be limited. It will result in some inflation as there is more money chasing the same (or fewer) goods in the market, IMHO, but nothing like the Weimar situation.
@fynes leigh no, I basically agree with your reasoning on the fiat money issue. Where I disagree with you is that the virus situation in which we currently find ourselves has different economic pressures than kinetic warfare.
@fynes leigh why are you only attributing this problem to England? Every government in the world is reeling off these unprecedented stimulus measures.
Yes. Sounds like me.
I always like listening to Douglas Murray, I don't agree with him on everything but hes a great speaker
“If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”
Malcolm X
@fynes leigh I don't care about him or his politics, I just thought the quote was very apt as everyone is being driven by fear from the MSM
@fynes leigh You are way to serious, I just liked the quote, purely personal. Any quote ever made will offend someone!!!
Murray will be quoted by history students in coming decades:
"We need to be ensure that the arsonist doesn't get praise for saving the house."
you are an idiot ,a voice of deception ...who is the arsonist ...douglas murray has the brains you are missing
Bob Menzies is either a member of the CCP or just a fuckwit
NUNYA EFIN BIZ I guess you live in a Muslim dictatorship somewhere?
Douglas Murray is a national treasure.
Bran the Broker , I think he is , if only as a beacon , of the joy and utility attributable to thinking for oneself . And that’s no small thing .
And he is the great example of a gay man who acknowledges that his rights are equal to everyone elses as fought for and granted by law and now takes his place in the public forum without still making it an issue or using it narcisstically in political conflict..
mark kavanagh indisputable .
international
Eve Oakley. more literary , closer to the late Roger Scruton .
There as so many immigrants working in the NHS because consecutive govts have made it difficult for Brits to train. Student nurses not only have to pay their tuition fees but also PAY the hospital they do their training in. Very few working class people become student doctors. Where are the left about these issues?
Let's blame the immigrants mayne it's the brits who don't like working to busy on Facebook and Instagram. Go to a hospital and see how hard the immigrants work in the NHS
@@carbonfibercrypto2919
How so for years immigrants do jobs seemingly one's the people here don't like doing.
Cleaners, picking fruit, cafés etc etc if the immigrants are taking the jobs why don't they do them
@@carbonfibercrypto2919
Don't know I know a few employers who say most people turn their noses down at these jobs, though I agree wages ain't good, I work low pay, on the whole the hospitality sector would not run without immigration
@Lone Wolf
Don't agree with you, was this not the same after the 2nd World War, the British government asked immigration into the country to do jobs brits weren't taking up. Sadly its the same immigrants taking the jobs I know lots of people who just don't want to work in hospitals or hospitality it's not their cup of tea
@Lone Wolf
I don't claim to be right on issues but I know people who say they would not work in certain industries, it's hard to take but to blame immigration for one's own problems is also wrong I definitely think the younger generation only want Facebook and Instagram and x factor
This is the first time I have been disappointed in something Douglas says, or writes. His dismissal of eloquent minds such as Peter Hitchens, Professor Johan Giesecke, and Lord Sumption, as "people on the fringe" because they refuse to SUBMIT, unquestioningly to the 'wisdom' of British politicians: and feel this over-reaction reveals more about human immaturity concerning life, risk, and suffering, than it does about 'evidence-based' scientific practice, is truly worrying. Human Beings live for 'quality' of life, rather than 'quantity' of it: and some of us will take extraordinary risks to enhance the joy they get out of being alive (eg Mountaineers and cliff-climbers). We are mortal: and this has revealed a Nation in denial of that fact.
I agree, because Sweden is an exemple of how things can be tackled differently. So far the swedish health care system hasn't been overwhelmed. Perhaps it is to early to give an answer whether Sweden has chosen a better way. Hopefully time will tell.
@@piushalg8175 Thank you for the comment Pius! I have been watching Sweden carefully. Thankfully, Sweden has a Constitution which specifically forbids its Government from doing what the British Government - in its human immaturity - is doing. Sweden has far wiser counsels, I think.
Me too! Like he sold out over night?
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... I can listen to Douglas all day
I do not see how you can say ethnic minority groups are dying disproportionately . You do not even know how many there are in the country .
The shocking truth is that this Coronavirus is racist, sexist and ageist. Why don’t the media lecture the virus on these issues? 😂
Reading these two books now (well, The strange Death of Europe at the moment).
My anger & dismay are slightly offset by Murray’s common sense, practical understanding and precise description of the subject make it totally absorbing!
When they
talk I tend to listen, along with Jordan Peterson we have 2 extremely powerful intellects, who preach, an honest, common sensical description of what is going on,
beyond the sinister drivel we hear from MSM and they woke Media!
I’m sick of it, and glad that we have the chance to listen to people like these!!!
"The arsonist doesn't get praise for saving the house"
I hope in the end of this crisis we remember that.
Going on what Douglas is saying in this interview, he seems to be cheering on the arsonist. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
I'm in no way a fan of the Chinese regime, but I'm not sure we can blame this one on them. I'm with Peter Hitchens, it seems hubristic to assume if China had provided perfectly accurate statistics we'd be anywhere different.
I don't know about that assertion. Here in Australia the arsonist is frequently found to be a volunteer for the local bushfire service.
What a brilliant and cutting remark, brilliant
@fynes leigh I'll take what is a library for a hundred Alex.
One of the most incredible speakers and thinkers of our time.
Brilliant interviewer who allows the interviewee to express their opinion.
Douglas Murray always has interesting views.
Two things I'd disagree on with Douglas: 1. its difficult to actually say whether or not an economic recession/ depression won't cause more deaths than the overspilling of patients in hospitals from Covid-19 because the death toll will be far more subtle and will not present itself in such an obvious way. 2. The 5g issue has been raging for years now, it's that coronavirus has been a catalyst for the damage to the masts: this is what happens when people don't feel like they've been listened to or taken seriously, so their actions to me are not all that surprising, even if I don't endorse them.
Samuel Poulston - I agree with you. Despite the fact that I don’t condone the burning of cell towers, empathy for the people who did that will be far more constructive in terms of resolving the behavior than scorn. Scorn will only serve to push those people into embracing their delusions harder.
@@grippercrapper Definitely. It's far more grown-up and mature.
Imigration caused the Covid. Douglas is a profet and genius
You seem the type to argue that men only diddle kids because they "don't feel like they've been listened to or taken seriously".
Bad people are precisely that. Stop making excuses for them.
Sarah Jessica Farter - If your style of arguing is to put words in my mouth then so be it. It does nothing to change my mind about what I actually said.
Regarding SJWs... Has anyone else noticed that we have created two classes of people here? Those whose health and lives we deem it acceptable to risk, and those who deserve total protection at the expense of the former?
And that expense is not only in risk to health and life, mind you. It's also in the tax burden.
Health workers (except in the US) are paid for by taxes, so I'm sorry, they aren't the people who will inevitably foot the bill for this (yes they pay taxes, but they are net tax consumers, not net tax contributors).
So it falls to private sector workers who are deemed essential, many of them in low-wage jobs, who are bearing a double burden right now.
My daughter is one of these, paying in both risk and taxes so that others can collect taxes and not face that risk. Every day she puts on her steel-toed boots, rides the bus to work, and unloads trucks at Walmart.
And I'm sorry, but she'd rather have mandatory hazard pay, or her income taxes waived, or even a "coronavirus essential worker tax credit" than all the blathering and virtue signalling about how much everyone appreciates the courage and sacrifice of essential workers.
Half our country is sitting on its asses being served by her, all while the bill for this gets bigger and bigger. She's 23. She had inherited $30,000+ of government debt burden before she filled her first diaper (or nappy, as you say). I shudder to think what that sum is now, or will be at the end of this.
Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not whining about it. But I do think it's odd that every person on social media with preferred pronouns in their profiles appears to be supporting the lockdown and resisting lifting or easing it, despite the fact that it has created an exploited underclass of low-paid, high-risk workers who are essentially (pun intended) carrying the entire bag.
It is always a pleasure to listen to Douglas Murray.
The moment has come where a country, Britain, has shown and will show more unity than others. This is the British spirit that lots of people have mocked for years. Well done. Again the silent heroes that make Britain, its own people, workers, anyone who contributes to the society show their iron core.
Every time I see Douglas Murray I don’t think I could love him any more and every time I’m wrong.
I love Douglas Murray and I'm not gay. Love the guy. So damn smart! So honest and bright. Great human being.
I really can't describe why but I feel mildly irritated when I think about the idea that we have gained trust in the institutions. The NHS, 85 percent home grown British 15 percent imported. Britain 20 percent none native. Therefore no gain what so ever. Look up Sargon of Akad on the subject.
Trevor Bacon Finally, a comment bringing up this glaring lie, that the media are perpetuating , that immigrants make up more of the NHS than the indigenous population.I watched his video and he’s bang on about them working here for money, not out of the goodness of their hearts.
Stay safe Douglas! Love your work!
The one thing that people outside of the US seem to not recognize is that all of American society was fixated on the impeachment trial so no one inside the gov. or civil service or media paid any attention to what was happening in the rest of the world when the pandemic started. As a Canadian I have a catbird seat. The US overall pays little attention to much outside of the US but at this time there wasn't even any attention to other issues or events in the US it was all Washington and impeachment. So they get more of a pass on being unprepared than the UK or Spain who had the example of Italy but didn't act in time. Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong and South Korea functioned how gov. should respond. Stellar responses.
"Eeeee! I wouldn't say Douglas was muscular but...............when he goes through a door in his house he goes through a door in his house". Thank you very much Laddies and Gentlemen I'm here online until the Covid-19 lock down is lifted. Thank you very much. You've been great. Thank you.
If we put the same 'faith in science" when it wasn't expedient then the majority 'transgender' argument would get very little traction.
Well said.
We need economists to get together to see how we can resolve the global crisis. Being unable to recognise Taiwan was problematic & how China was buying billions of dollars worth of medical supplies in January by non medical businesses & then sending them to China leaving the rest of the world short needs to be discussed because the shortages have not been questioned or explained
I've been re-reading (after 40 years) Daniel Defoe's 'A Journal of the Plague Year'. The social panic, and the spontaneous ignition of wildfire conspiracy theories, was identical in the London of the early 1600's.
Douglas in a t-shirt is unexpected!
and unshaven
Listening to this was like breathing mountain air. Simply delightful.
such a wonderful point. "we do not consume the media to be morally improved by journalists".
Perfect.
Always great to listen to- even when i dont agree with some of what he says. Intelligent interviewer too.
Hay, Douglas, you're getting better looking by the Day.. Looking forward to hearing this. 🇮🇪🇮🇪... Ohhh and Bless you.. 👍
Murray is fabulous
We love Douglas, he's amazing❤️
Douglas looking good and fit. Good to see 👍
what a great interview , Douglas never fails to bring a level headed perspective to the debate .
I agree with Douglas, we don't listen to reporters to be morally educated, lectured, uplifted. I would expect to look to politicians amongst others for that kind of elucidation. Reporters should introduce us to, hopefully, reliable purveyors of wisdom. Unfortunately on the political front there is a dearth of politicians (especially in US) capable of moral leadership.
Fantastic discussion! Thankyou gents 👍👍
Douglas is jacked. Warrior and a scholar.
Douglas Murray, truth seeker who speaks the truth. I love truth seekers. As long as we intelligently seek the truth we will be just fine. Don't get sidetracked with social justice warriors who want quotas, misery shared equally, and special interest groups to win and lose. Protect yourself.
We need more honest intellectual men and woman like these two grown ups, keep speaking up Douglas Murray
Douglas Murray could read a shopping list and make it interesting.
Wow! Not a mention of Sweden vs England response. Either not aware, not relevant, or let's just not go there. Take your pick.
Disappointing.
Well said peter,can i also recommend the work of dr John ioannidis here on UA-cam a voice of reason
I'm getting a Doug Murray poster for my wife's birthday, as he is looking rather buff? and is a great and interesting speaker. Nice Doug, and thanks!
You are a great interviewer, Joe - even if you did have stars in your eyes. You are forgiven, I would have been the same. A great job, asking incisive questions and coming up with rational and cautious counters. Subscribed.
He's not called joe. Politics Joe is the name of the organisation he works for.
Douglas was phenomenal in this interview; as always!
What would we do without Douglas Murray?
I’ll hope that The Madness of Crowd, and Strange Death of Europe will come out in a danish version. 😊
also, the amount of NHS staff who have died of covid is also disproportionate, and higher number are darker of skin. i hardly think we can reallistically claim that these doctors / surgeons are living in poor socio economic conditions
(Not a vitamin) hormone D deficiency.
This is a brilliant man! He makes a lot of sense and he is very practical!
Douglas Murray looking real jacked baby!
Thank you for this enlightening and intelligent discussion.
Is it me... or is Douglas ripped!? Perhaps he's been working out in his self-isolation.
This is the man we need in politics. PM
Great video. Dougy as always, on point
Can someone please rifle through all Douglas Murray library videos and catalogue it all? I would find it... useful.
Too few people have the courage to say, "We don't know".
I always ask this question but PLEASE if anyone talks to Douglas, can they ask him to post a picture of the books in his library?! Every time I see him do these webcam interviews, I always want to know what book are on his shelf (aside from his own of course). Please ask him if you ever get a chance. I know this is a long shot, but it would just mean so much to me. I have read almost everything he has ever written and I normally read or buy what he suggests to read. Geez, I sound like a Douglas Murray groupie...
"Geez, I sound like a Douglas Murray groupie..." Who isn't? He's a Renaissance Man.
00:12 Damn! Douglas has got some guns on him. Who knew?
You have no idea. twitter.com/douglaskmurray/status/1242134726049218562
ROFL. I didn't notice first-time around. Dude's in shape these days, it suits him!
The Gates Foundation have donated millions to PATH, who conducted large scale clinical trials in Africa and South Asia. According to Vera Sharav who is part of Alliance for Research Protection, in 2010 PATH administered the HPV vaccine was given to 23,000 girls between 10-14yrs old to guard against cervical cancers as part of a “demonstrational study”.
7 adolescent tribal girls died after receiving the vaccine. 1,200 girls experienced extreme side effects of developed auto-immense disorders, according to Indian Physicians who state no follow up examinations or medical care were offered to the victims.
Further investigations revealed persuasive violations of ethical norms: vulnerable village girls were virtually press-ganged into the trials, their parents bullied into signing consent forms they couldn’t read by PATH representatives, who made false claims about safety and efficacy of the drugs. Many signatures were formed.
An Indian Parliamentary Committee determined the Gates-funded vaccine campaign was in fact a large scale clinical trial conducted on behalf of the pharmaceutical firms and disguised as an “observational study” in order to outflank statutory requirements. The committee found that PATH had “violated all les and regulations laid down for trials by the government in a clear-cut violation of human rights and a case of child abuse”.
www.newdemocracyworld.org/culture/gates.html
Douglas Murray looking healthy! Kid is ripped lets go get on JRE and get some love Doug
I get very confused about my sexuality whenever I watch Douglas Murray.
It’s not a great leveller.. the poor will suffer far more than those who can sit in their leafy gardens and work from home..
And whose fault is this? Personal responsibility is a thing.
This is a great Leveller. Everyone in the world has been affected by this. Everyone’s plans have been interrupted. Everyone’s lively hood is at risk. Everyone has family members who are at risk from dying. What does rich or poor have to do with it?
Gentlemen, thank you.
'It will be a rocky and tortuous road, but one we must travel'
Our identity comes from family, village, town, city, state (region), country. in all we have a common society, culture and history. In all there is a sense of family. Perhaps, one day, in the future we humans will include the planet earth as part of the extended family. Perhaps one day ‘we’ will find a way of governing the planet that is benign and not susceptible to corruption. Perhaps …..
In the meantime it is nationalism that is triumphing.
As the world comes out of this, it is an opportunity to come together as one world.
Instead of looking to blame, we should be looking for ways to work together as nations.
My heart lies in nationalism, but my eyes look to a better future.
It will be a rocky and tortuous road, but one we must travel.
I don’t think I’ve ever disagreed with Mr Murray this much on any issue or topic before this one.
Ok, it's official. Douglas Murray has mellowed down considerably. I like the pre-corona Douglas Murray.
George Clarke is advising government on housing. He is great.
In November the President of the United States emphasized that November was National Preparedness Month. I am not a prepper person and I would have been embarrassed to become one. HOWEVER, on that day I contacted someone who I expected might have some warning about an impending event. 5 Eyes, perhaps? There must certainly have been some chatter warning our leaders of trouble. Also, France was affected early on at a ski lodge, I think. How did they know to try hydroxychloroquine? This and azithromyacine seem to have been a KNOWN treatment. If this bio-weapon was released (and it does seem to be a planned release) there was certainly a treatment known to those who released it.
Douglas been smashing the press ups in lockdown
Ahh that's what it is.. 💪
Douglas is a British hero. I rather clap for him every Thursday evening!
Douglas is getting hotter by the minute 😍
Nice to see D. Murray off his high horse and being fairly human and sensible. Good.
Good interview
I think Douglas has been working out, a lot
This reminds of the book The Bone Clocks by British author David Mitchell......we're in the midst of a prelude to dystopia
Great interview.
Joe spot on this is a much better choice of interviewee Douglas is a legend & my respect is restored :D
I’m a teacher, and doing everything online is clunky, inefficient and time-consuming. It’s not an advance over teaching in person.
I revere Douglas Murray.
Good interview, but a bigger point is, when did Douglas get so ripped?! Did anybody else see the gun show at the beginning when he pointed at his book? He's getting swoll with his extra time!
Douglas rocks! Suns out, guns out
Douglas, I share your exasperation.
Marvellous insights as always.
Douglas Murray is always worth listening to
Murray is well worth listening to. (But not always paying close attention to).
I'm up for more than a financial reckoning with China ... an intellectual one in the universities and think tanka too
The financial one needs to be much more broad than just trade and supply chains too. It need to include charitable donations , think tank funding, etc..
Yes they have infiltrated the Western universities.
Fantastic finishing statement by Douglas.
Up until now have always respected (and liked) D Murray's views. Being simplistic(cant help it!! sums me up-ok Im stupit)) he sadly seems very kowtow to me towards authoritarian/state views. At least P Hitchens is raising valid ?s
Douglas is so underrated! He’s an absolute genius.
Douglas is one class act.
“What if this is just a prelude...?”
Well, I don’t know. Global debt is at about twice the level it was pre-Global Financial Crisis (2007/08); but interest rates sit near 0% (little room left for monetary policy); governments’ biggest answer to the debt crisis has been to print more money and pump in more debt, demographics keep pointing to aging populations,.... nah, it’ll be fine!
GREAT.
👌
Just a thought and open to critique. If the government wishes to retain the trust of the people it would be in it's own interest to put back some trust in the people themselves, and therefore to downgrade their recent dictats to the status of advice and let each of us decide our own priorities and risk/benefit assessments. As a white man in my 60s I seem to have finally been blessed with a kind of victim status that forms part of the justification for the shutdown of civil liberties for those who are apparently privileged to be less vulnerable. I appreciate all the help I can get but only when given in a spirit of generosity. It is utterly repugnant to me that others should be compelled by law to sacrifice on my behalf.
'no-one seen this coming.....' Emmm apart from Dr Fauci and Bill Gates you mean!!!