The missing lyric: "So we'll sing this song from Ruddigore" which is another opera by Sir Arthur Sullivan but wait, I see others have already pointed this out so, I guess it really doesn't matter, matter, matter, matter!
I love at 00:58 how she adds "so I'll sing this song from Ruddigore" x) When I saw this live in Sydney a few years ago at this point in the subtitle screen they gave up and wrote something like "Too much information, just enjoy the music!", which gained a huge laugh from the audience
I first saw him in the original production of the Cy Coleman/Comden & Green musical On the Twentieth Century, and later in the first production of this Pirates in Central Park. His gift for physical comedy was astounding.
The line "I'll sing a song from Ruddigore it really doesn't matter" is referring to the far more obscure play of that name, also by Gilbert & Sullivan.
From start to finish, he chewed the scenery like Cookie Monster eating cookies. I had a hard time paying attention to anyone else because he is so over the top. Same with the theatre version of this.
When I was a kid, I was asked what song I'd want to be played at my wedding. I chose this one (based on it's first line), which probably explains why I never got married.
Bfdidc I grew up on this movie! I used to practice jumping shrubs with my sister while singing With Cat Like Tread. Doing the Kevin Kline squat with one leg crossed from A pardox, which I'm convinced only he can do. I grew up wanting my grandpa, who is a WWII vet a master sergeant, tellimg him I would not get married unlesshe sang the Major General tune. He's an amazing singer, I was like Grandpa! You got this! Repeat, I am the very model of- and he'd go an eye twitch followed by a glare and refused to sing it as he felt it was a misrepresentation for him to call himself a major general. I'd pout, beg, try to cute my way in to making him agree. Every time, he'd shut it down before it began. So I got mad and in a childish out burst I yelled at my grandpa "Fine! I'm never getting married!" He's in his 90's now, is blind, and is selectivity deaf. Iam glad I backed down on that dream as I don't need my grandpa beating the wedding guest with an umbrella. I am not married either. But I had my grandparents as a gold standard of what a marriage should be. My parents are divorced, that was ugly. My sisters are divorced, that got really messy. Now I just tell people I never got married to skip my first divorce. Mad respect that you wanted a song from this play/film at your wedding when you grew up. I feel ya'!
This song was actually from "Ruddigore", and it was borrowed for this movie since they weren't making a movie of Ruddigore. Oh, you kids really need to start familiarizing yourselves with other Gilbert & Sullivan stories. This one was easy. Now let's see you sink your teeth into The Mikado, Ruddigore, Iolanthe, Trial by Jury...any of the rest.
The film doesn't even try to pretend this song is originally in Pirates. The lyrics literally go "so I'll sing this song from Ruddigore it really doesn't matter". They acknowledge the source and I think it's hilarious they put it in, whether you think they've sped it up or not. Totally cool.
I think this song and lyric is in the original score isnt it? Wasn't it G&S that threw in the random song from Ruddigore not the film makers a hundred years later. I think
when they put this on broadway in teh 80's again kline was doing the same role and yes he did the song without a hitch the entire time everytime. such awesomeness when i was little this was the only musical i liked and enjoyed.
Also, besides the reference to Ruddigore is the visual reference in this movie to H.M.S. Pinafore on the theatre marquee, and in the Major General's song.
This version definitely sounds time compressed. Yes I KNOW it's a fast and challenging song to sing, but I also know the sound/timbre of each of these performers voices, and they, especially Kevin Klein, are not that high/treble in pitch. One might go so far as to say that Gilbert & Sullivan, and not Lin Manuel Miranda, composed the first musical raps for stage presentation.
for me this is the best musical ive ever saw even when i was a kid i didnt care for alot of the musicals all except for this one. it has ageless songs in it though and the idea behind it is genius
This song was added to the Joseph Papp 1980 stage version--from Ruddigore. they also added a song, Sorry her Lot from Pinafore for Ronstadt, but that was cut from this film adaptation
I don't think W S would mind much ...there is a lot of cross-referencing of music in their other works and he/they wrote at a time when liberties were regularly taken in Opera e.g. "The Last Rose of Summer" in the lesson scene in The Barber of Seville etc As Ruddigore is less often heard than Pirates I think that it is good to have this chance to air one of its best numbers.
at 1:01 ruth says "so ill sing this song from ruddigore, it really dousent matter" most G&S plays have to make a referance to one or another, (its even scripted into the major generals song (and whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore)) i liked it
@ Oyiket - yeah "Matter" was from the G+S Musical Ruddigore, which was "borrowed" for this film. And It is where "The speed test" was born for millie! :)
@AustinAdunNabi I assume you mean why is this song from Ruddigore in Pirates. Honestly, dear old G & S weren't above reusing snippets from their previous works. One can hardly blame them, being as prolific as they were, for indulging in a little self reference. A hilarious tune either way and worth checking out the version of Ruddigore with Vincent Price as Despard.
I love when she says "I'll sing this song from Ruddigore, it really doesn't matter!" HA so true! *happens to be in Ruddigore at the moment* Kevin Kline = amazing.
Well he didnt take a breath in his entire segment :P (as far as i heard)i think he did very well to get through it. *Kevin Kline and Johnny Depp are the 2 best pirates EVAR!!! not sure which i prefer though :(*
hey hey there, i know i havent spoke in a while so im leavin a comment or 2 for every vid you have, i enjoyed singin to this is fun, it was really hard to do! lol x x
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@jraduta I don't see any resemblance. That's a dark, guitar heavy, sad/angry/happy piece about killing Captain Hammer, while this is a cheerful bit of patter taken from a different musical.
in the live version of this i saw ruth goes 'but my opinion doesnt matter' and fred and the pirate king all sing 'no her opinion doesn't matter!' XD it was pretty funny
Uh, no. The Speed Test is actually this song rewritten. Granted, this was rewritten a bit too to make up for the fact that it was stuck into the wrong G&S operetta (which is actually pretty clever) but it's still a Gilbert and Sullivan original.
I never noticed that she said 'I'll sing this song from Ruddigore'. Although I only saw this film twice, and back then I didn't know this song was stolen from Ruddigore.
0:46: "If this were not a little mad and generally silly...", not "If there's one other little matter generally silly...". The former makes sense and matches phonetically; the latter, not so much. Also it's much closer to the lyrics of the Ruddigore version - "If /I/ were not a little mad and generally silly...".
Note to the New York State Board of Regents: Please make the proficient articulation and flawless singing of this song required to pass the New York State Teacher's Certification Exams. That should eliminate most of the bad apples. Also, BTW, lose the fucking 10 hour class observation per course requirement. I do not need to be tormented further by bad teachers!!!
Okay, first of all, this is from Ruddigore, not Pirates, and second of all, this is sped up (and obviously so) which is unfair to the people who actually perform this at top speed LIVE on stage or far more realistically in other films. Not cool. That said, I didn't know they'd made a movie with Lansbury and Kline (there's one with Victor Price), so I may have to check it out.
Okay, first of all, they mention in the song itself that it’s from Ruddigore, and second of all, Kevin Kline can actually perform this song that fast and has LIVE before
"This particularly rapid unintelligible patter isn't generally heard, and if it is, it doesn't matter."
...Well said.
To be honest, when i first listened to the song, "this particularly rapid unintelligible patter" was the only thing i understood
@@naly202 Then you got it.
All the kudos to Kevin Kline for making it through his verse in a single breath--I wish I had that kind of control. XD
AB-SO-LUTE-LY!! Took my breath away listening to Mr. Kline! Bravura performance!
Angela Lansbury. You will be missed. I’m 41 and have watched this movie since I was 2. Much love and respect for you and your craft.
The missing lyric: "So we'll sing this song from Ruddigore" which is another opera by Sir Arthur Sullivan but wait, I see others have already pointed this out so, I guess it really doesn't matter, matter, matter, matter!
Lansbury says it, its just not subtitled properly
"So I'll sing a song from Ruddigore it really doesn't matter" OMG THAT LINE IS FUCKING BEAUTIFUL
The power of your amazement is not enhanced by the use of a swear word. We all realise it's amazing so there is absolutely no need use bad language
@@cappuccinodriverno1 But who cares?
I love at 00:58 how she adds "so I'll sing this song from Ruddigore" x) When I saw this live in Sydney a few years ago at this point in the subtitle screen they gave up and wrote something like "Too much information, just enjoy the music!", which gained a huge laugh from the audience
It is too bad so many people out there don't know how incredibly talented Kevin Kline really is.
I first saw him in the original production of the Cy Coleman/Comden & Green musical On the Twentieth Century, and later in the first production of this Pirates in Central Park. His gift for physical comedy was astounding.
A great song to take advantage of UA-cam's speed options.
Great suggestion!
Endless fun!
I read this and I tried it. Thank you
Kevin Kline is the best...he makes it look effortless.
1:27 When the Pirate King falls over... ROFL that's hilarious!
Deborah Ingle I keep replaying that, it's hilarious
Deborah Ingle If you listen closely, you can hear him hit the ground 😂
Thanks for pointing that out! I missed it first time through, so I had to go back and watch it ALL over again . . . drat!
The line "I'll sing a song from Ruddigore it really doesn't matter" is referring to the far more obscure play of that name, also by Gilbert & Sullivan.
Kevin Kline chewing the scenery in the fastest possible dialogue ever.
From start to finish, he chewed the scenery like Cookie Monster eating cookies. I had a hard time paying attention to anyone else because he is so over the top. Same with the theatre version of this.
When I was a kid, I was asked what song I'd want to be played at my wedding. I chose this one (based on it's first line), which probably explains why I never got married.
Bfdidc I grew up on this movie! I used to practice jumping shrubs with my sister while singing With Cat Like Tread. Doing the Kevin Kline squat with one leg crossed from A pardox, which I'm convinced only he can do.
I grew up wanting my grandpa, who is a WWII vet a master sergeant, tellimg him I would not get married unlesshe sang the Major General tune. He's an amazing singer, I was like Grandpa! You got this! Repeat, I am the very model of- and he'd go an eye twitch followed by a glare and refused to sing it as he felt it was a misrepresentation for him to call himself a major general. I'd pout, beg, try to cute my way in to making him agree. Every time, he'd shut it down before it began. So I got mad and in a childish out burst I yelled at my grandpa "Fine! I'm never getting married!"
He's in his 90's now, is blind, and is selectivity deaf. Iam glad I backed down on that dream as I don't need my grandpa beating the wedding guest with an umbrella.
I am not married either. But I had my grandparents as a gold standard of what a marriage should be. My parents are divorced, that was ugly. My sisters are divorced, that got really messy. Now I just tell people I never got married to skip my first divorce.
Mad respect that you wanted a song from this play/film at your wedding when you grew up. I feel ya'!
Great song. And BTW, Kevin Klein was GREAT with the pratfalls and other stunts in this movie. Not that it matters. Because it really doesn't.
My favorite part is after the Pirate King finishes his quick part and then falls over!
"But at present (...) I am as mad as any hatter so I'll sing this song from rudigore, it really doesn't matter" xD LOL
I LOVE that this bit of unintelligible patter is referenced from RUDDIGORE!
Me too
This song was actually from "Ruddigore", and it was borrowed for this movie since they weren't making a movie of Ruddigore. Oh, you kids really need to start familiarizing yourselves with other Gilbert & Sullivan stories. This one was easy. Now let's see you sink your teeth into The Mikado, Ruddigore, Iolanthe, Trial by Jury...any of the rest.
I love The Mikado. And "Loudly let the trumpets bray" is my favorite song from Iolanthe.
R.I.P. Angela Lansbury.
The film doesn't even try to pretend this song is originally in Pirates. The lyrics literally go "so I'll sing this song from Ruddigore it really doesn't matter". They acknowledge the source and I think it's hilarious they put it in, whether you think they've sped it up or not. Totally cool.
GMGRDS they sing the line. The subs are just wrong
I think this song and lyric is in the original score isnt it? Wasn't it G&S that threw in the random song from Ruddigore not the film makers a hundred years later. I think
@@ZeldaLuffy It was added (along with a couple other changes) to the stage production with (mostly) this cast, which then was adapted for this film.
when they put this on broadway in teh 80's again kline was doing the same role and yes he did the song without a hitch the entire time everytime. such awesomeness when i was little this was the only musical i liked and enjoyed.
Listening to the Pirate King makes ME feel breathless!
Kevin Kline is truly the GOAT IMO
Awesome song! One of the two songs of this performance that I adore.
I love how the song is so fast the subtitles can't quite keep up with it.
Also, besides the reference to Ruddigore is the visual reference in this movie to H.M.S. Pinafore on the theatre marquee, and in the Major General's song.
I still remember her chilling turn as the most evil mother ever in The Manchurian Candidate.
Wow! Calvin Fischoeder went from pirate king to running the Wonder Wharf.
Kevin Kline was awesome in this
This version definitely sounds time compressed. Yes I KNOW it's a fast and challenging song to sing, but I also know the sound/timbre of each of these performers voices, and they, especially Kevin Klein, are not that high/treble in pitch.
One might go so far as to say that Gilbert & Sullivan, and not Lin Manuel Miranda, composed the first musical raps for stage presentation.
Thanks a lot for posting this. I only ever heard the ruddigore version on CD. Great to see this performed
for me this is the best musical ive ever saw even when i was a kid i didnt care for alot of the musicals all except for this one. it has ageless songs in it though and the idea behind it is genius
one of my faveorite songs of the entire movie!
i love this sooooo much. kevin kline and rex smith...*sigh*...
This song was added to the Joseph Papp 1980 stage version--from Ruddigore. they also added a song, Sorry her Lot from Pinafore for Ronstadt, but that was cut from this film adaptation
I die laughing when the king fell over and the others doesn't even care
probably because it really doesn't matter
same here. I love this version
Kevin Kline is legend!
@hotwriter36 I wish they could've had Patricia Routledge in this version. I'm not used to hearing her sing well.
i played ruth in our production of this show and i had to sing this and it was pretty freakin awesome!!
Eat your heart out, Busta Rhymes
I don't think W S would mind much ...there is a lot of cross-referencing of music in their other works and he/they wrote at a time when liberties were regularly taken in Opera e.g. "The Last Rose of Summer" in the lesson scene in The Barber of Seville etc
As Ruddigore is less often heard than Pirates I think that it is good to have this chance to air one of its best numbers.
@FreddeeG -- it is Pirates, but the song itself is from Ruddigore ;)
"So I'll sing this song from Ruddigore, so it really doesn't matter."
That's the line.
at 1:01 ruth says
"so ill sing this song from ruddigore, it really dousent matter"
most G&S plays have to make a referance to one or another,
(its even scripted into the major generals song (and whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore))
i liked it
This is my favorite song from this whole show.
@ Oyiket - yeah "Matter" was from the G+S Musical Ruddigore, which was "borrowed" for this film.
And It is where "The speed test" was born for millie! :)
Angela Lansburyyyyy!!!!
Holy shit, didn't expect that from Angela Lansbury
This is my favorite cast for this play.
Hudson's Floor Wax doesn't matter matter matter matter matter... Thoroughly Modern Millie anyone? :P
@AustinAdunNabi I assume you mean why is this song from Ruddigore in Pirates. Honestly, dear old G & S weren't above reusing snippets from their previous works. One can hardly blame them, being as prolific as they were, for indulging in a little self reference. A hilarious tune either way and worth checking out the version of Ruddigore with Vincent Price as Despard.
So I'll sing this song from Ruddigore!! Haha, I'm glad they made the nod at the original show that this song comes from. :)
I love when she says "I'll sing this song from Ruddigore, it really doesn't matter!" HA so true!
*happens to be in Ruddigore at the moment*
Kevin Kline = amazing.
Eh, the original is from Ruddigore and yup for most it really doesn't matter, matter, matter, matter, matter, matter, matter. Signed, Margaret ;)
@JennytheSoprano Well, of course Kline steals the show. He is a pirate after all.
Happy 96. Birthday, Dame Angela
I love how he falls over at 1:26
Well he didnt take a breath in his entire segment :P (as far as i heard)i think he did very well to get through it. *Kevin Kline and Johnny Depp are the 2 best pirates EVAR!!! not sure which i prefer though :(*
Oh I understood after listening to it over and over.
I not sad really!
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hey hey there, i know i havent spoke in a while so im leavin a comment or 2 for every vid you have, i enjoyed singin to this is fun, it was really hard to do! lol
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@jraduta I don't see any resemblance. That's a dark, guitar heavy, sad/angry/happy piece about killing Captain Hammer, while this is a cheerful bit of patter taken from a different musical.
it takes a lot of practice and you start out much more slowly.
in the live version of this i saw ruth goes 'but my opinion doesnt matter' and fred and the pirate king all sing 'no her opinion doesn't matter!' XD it was pretty funny
Uh, no. The Speed Test is actually this song rewritten. Granted, this was rewritten a bit too to make up for the fact that it was stuck into the wrong G&S operetta (which is actually pretty clever) but it's still a Gilbert and Sullivan original.
This song isnt in the origanl play of Penzance, the film company put it in... very well I might add X3
How long do you think they had to rehearse this?
Patter songs are just raps for musicals
- change my mind
@electrospunk The film is on Hulu, though.
Put this up to 1.5x speed and now I have a nosebleed...
You think 1.5x is bad? Listen to the Pirate King's part, double time!
@XatxiFly Assuming you're from the United States (or cheat in a horrible manner), that doesn't help an Aussie, now does it?
WHERE WHERE WHERE can i get this version on dvd??
How Frigging fast you wanna go? i tryed to keep up but shortly gave up...
I never noticed that she said 'I'll sing this song from Ruddigore'. Although I only saw this film twice, and back then I didn't know this song was stolen from Ruddigore.
Somebody should do a comprehensive dubbing of this song over the main trio of "Pirate of the Carribean"
0:46: "If this were not a little mad and generally silly...", not "If there's one other little matter generally silly...". The former makes sense and matches phonetically; the latter, not so much. Also it's much closer to the lyrics of the Ruddigore version - "If /I/ were not a little mad and generally silly...".
Oh, horror!
What's the matter?
We have to do an encore!
To understand the lyrics, listen at 0.75 speed. For unparalleled entertainment, listen at 1.5 speed
Dude, how can anyone sing so rapidly and clearly?
That is how G&S pieces work! You have to sing clearly and, oftentimes, fast!
The Speed Test?
Hard to sing that fast but very hilarious.
actuallly i just had a shot at it and manged to get to halfway before i had problems keeping up, some more practice and i reckon i could nail it.
Note to the New York State Board of Regents:
Please make the proficient articulation and flawless singing of this song required to pass the New York State Teacher's Certification Exams.
That should eliminate most of the bad apples.
Also, BTW, lose the fucking 10 hour class observation per course requirement. I do not need to be tormented further by bad teachers!!!
luckily there are the lyrics!
It is sung just a bit too fast try doing this even with the lyrics
Some of the subs are wrong
swagger really is a old phrase
Okay, first of all, this is from Ruddigore, not Pirates, and second of all, this is sped up (and obviously so) which is unfair to the people who actually perform this at top speed LIVE on stage or far more realistically in other films. Not cool. That said, I didn't know they'd made a movie with Lansbury and Kline (there's one with Victor Price), so I may have to check it out.
The cast did this on Broadway before they made the movie, and they included this song at this speed.
Vincent Price, not Victor Price.
Okay, first of all, they mention in the song itself that it’s from Ruddigore, and second of all, Kevin Kline can actually perform this song that fast and has LIVE before
took you two weeks to memorize this song? Wow, thats a long time.
wow and i thought this tune was from Modern Millie "speed test"
If the song originally appeared in Ruddigore, then it was by G&S...that was another one of their operettas.
Practice.
Misses murder she wrote can do this quite well
At .75 speed, it sounds normal.
at .5 they sound wasted XD
this wasnt by "G and S" it was added in
Wrong about Gilbert and Sullivan but they wrote it for another of their operettas Ruddigore. Ha ha.
I can sing it! YEAH BABY!!! WHOOOO!!!!
The Pirate King kind of reminds me of the purple guy from the Green Lantern movie in this song.
1:01 did she say Ruddigore
Dat pardonable swag.