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you mean the province of daggerfall? The one that shares it's name with the capital. Just like the other 2 main kingdoms in the area Sentinel and Wayrest.
Bruh, High Rock at this time was divided into several warring kingdoms who basically just paid taxes to the emperor, so calling them separate provinces isn't too far off.
No the province really is High Rock Daggerfall, Wayrest and the other kingdoms are part of said province. The title province refers to the imperial organisation whilst the kingdoms are detemined by local politics.
Haha yes, i love the creepy ones too. Specially fucking Glarthir. Who turned the game into a survival horror game. But for real, some quests had so much detail. If you went into Glarthir's house for an example (which wasn't a part of the quest anyway) you could find details of his insanity. A battleaxe next to his bed, books piled all around the house, notes of his paranoia in his basement and so on.
It makes the whole world and the people feel alive. Like you're inside a society of some sort. Which is a really cozy immersion to walk into a city and feel like it is alive. Even if some dialogue is copy pasted. I like them having alot of different things to say. While in Skyrim their dialogue is minimal.
1. *MANY SAY* that Oblivion is even better than Morrowind. But is it true? Or Morrowind is actually better than Oblivion? 2. People say that Skyrim is worse than Oblivion and Morrowind, but is it better than Daggerfall? Some say that Daggerfall is better than Skyrim.
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despite it’s flaws, I have been playing this game for over a decade and I still find new things to smile about. if you havent played it, give it a try.
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My unpopular opinion is that the Morrowind combat system wasn't "flawed"... in ways i actually think its the best combat system in TES. The problem with the combat system is the lack of animation to make you understand what is actually going on. IF they had actually animated a Miss animation, or a dodge animation to show what actually happens, the combat would be a lot better and the combat would be a lot more fast passed and epic to look at imo... I love that the game takes so many things into account. Stamina matters, skill matters... It makes sense that your a lvl 1 prisoner cant go up with your knife... hell even with a sword and swing it at a knight and expect to hit him... your untrained swings will be parried or dodge, and he will cut you open in 1-3 moves.. he has trained in his armor and weapons his whole life... IT also makes it possible for you to wear lesser tier armor and weapons and still win.. if your skill is high enough, as a blocked attack means no damage, and high enough agility and luck makes you dodge enemy attacks. I wish the future TES games would take back the Morrowind combat system... Add in parry and dodge animations to better visible relay what your "dice roll" (as the system is more in line with d&d than the "sword hits hitbox" mechanics) visible.
One thing - Mehrunes Dagon isn't a demi-god. The Daedric Prices are gods, in every sense of the word. Daedric Princes are et'Ada, as are the nine divines, just a different aspect.
The thing I have come to notice about The Elder Scrolls games is that each one excels in a different way. All you can say is "I like so this one more than that one" It comes down to a preference in style, gameplay and presentation. You can certainly say an element of one of the games is bad, but you can't say the entire game is terrible as a whole, and why people are so split about which one they like most.
At 6:10, I totally forgot how the mages towers in morrowind forced you to invest in some kind of levitation spell, because of vertical tunnels without stairs. I LOVED that in morrowind.
If I'm in Italy and head north, I would run into massive, freezing cold mountains. That would clearly mean that everything further north than the Alps would be freezing cold and mountainous.
One thing I liked about Oblivion was the companions. They were all somewhat hidden and there was only like 5 so getting a good one felt really special. I remember rocking the adoring fan for a long time just so I could have someone help me out until I found the ex-blades guy and sealed the adoring fan in oblivion.
One thing that people nowadays forget about Morrowind is that it didn't have scaling enemies, it had location based enemies. If you ventured into the wrong place, you'd get torn to pieces. This was removed in Oblivion and replaced by enemies that scale based on your level. It was also present in Skyrim. And in my opinion, it was a change for worse. All the awe and danger of adventuring was removed by having enemies that scale. No matter where you go in Skyrim, you'll never encounter anything that will completely annihilate you. And pretty much same is true for Oblivion. I remember when Morrowind came, and we picked it up with a friend of mine. He decided to "screw these quests, lets just go exploring" and so he went for a trip around the island, following the shoreline. Soon he encountered enemies that he could barely hit, taking dozens if not hundreds of hits to kill. He ran out of food and potions, and all his armor and weapons broke. He had to scrounge anything and everything just to survive. He had to run away from most encounters, because he just couldn't win. Any town, village or hut he found was a sorely needed sanctuary for rest and trade, and a place where he could breathe freely. Occasionally, he would find a cave or ruin that had some extremely powerful monsters, and he would sneak around them, run away from them or use all his might to kill them, and see what treasures these locations held. In some of the caves and ruins he found a few coins, some rusted swords and worn armor - nothing special - but in one of them... on some barely noticeable ledge that was just out of reach, there was a glimmer. My friend had to use that special levitation scroll he had been saving to be able to reach that ledge, and there he found a sword that was like no other. With that sword, and his harsh training, my friend was finally able to slay the powerful monsters that were tormenting him. The prey had become the predator. It still took a lot of work, and without adequate armor, it was still very dangerous, but now he didn't have to run away from every encounter anymore. Being able to hold his own on this harsh island, he was better suited to explore more dangerous places, with even better items in them. On his adventures he had become more shrewd and cunning, and in towns he could sweet talk the vendors to part with more gold. He was selling rarer and more expensive items, which meant he could buy better equipment. Even the climate had changed to an ashen wasteland, as if to mirror the tempered and weary mind of his character. Eventually, the land changed again, to a more friendly swamp, or some hearty forest, the enemies became easier and easier and even the townspeople were friendlier again. The journey was nearing its end. And when my friend finally reached the location where he had started his adventure, he came to a realization: nothing there could oppose his might. This journey had made him immensely strong. He had found weapons and armor others could only dream of. Unique, one of a kind items that no one else in this world had. He had honed his skills to their absolute best. He could swim as fast as others ran, he could jump on top of buildings, and he could cut beasts in half with one hit; beasts that not even five or ten men could kill. ...and this, kids, is the experience that Oblivion and Skyrim will never offer. It may be an experience that no game will offer ever again. And that is why Morrowind is the best Elder Scrolls game ever made.
First time I ever played Morrowwind I couldn't even kill a rat. Naturally, I returned it to the store asking for a new copy because I was convinced my copy was broken/glitched to hell.
holy shit this is the reason i didnt play any fallout before 3. i came out of the vault missed a 60% shot on a rat 5 times in a row and uninstalled the game.
Too bad, first Fallout is quite a ride. But i do agree its a little hardcore to a new player. I still remember how i constantly kept dying in first few minutes of the game, getting literally slaughtered by radscorpions... It took me a couple deaths before i realized im not supposed to fight them, i just have to run and try to survive... That was a shocker. And thats what made fallout so exceptional. It was a gamd about survival in harsh, cruel and unforgiving world. The second Fallout was casual, the third one was a joke. I havent played new vegas yet though.
I've watched masses of videos on UA-cam on people saying skyrim is the best or oblivion or morrowind, and they all have 1 think in common, the person arguing for their favourite game played it before the others
Tbh each of them have their pros and cons. Guilds were best in oblivion, immersion was the strongest in morrowind (it had its flaws though), and Skyrim has dragons. Also, Oblivion had dumb dialouges, Morrowind's world felt creepily dead, and Skyrim got rid of spell creation, which was the serie greatest strength. It's about what matters to you the most in gaming.
Possumlove, fair point, but shooting fire is the least fun you could have with spell creation in these games ;) My favorite spell to create was causing my target to flee for 5 seconds, and adding 100 speed and 100 athletics to them. Imagine fighting something, then casting this spell, and watching them run away in faster-than-light-cartoonish manner. Paralyze effect was also crazy fun in oblivion, due to hilarious rag-doll. Or imagine creating a fireball... the size of half of the city, causing every object with implemented physics engine fly in the sky. FUN That's what the spell creation was about - unrestricted, creative fun.
A mage duel on the side of the road is what ruins it for you? Not the lizard/cat people, floating insect jellyfish, dragons, undead, werewolves, lack of infrastructure to support the supposed population, etc...
11:00 This criticism about frozen conversations seems odd considering how fucked the unfrozen ones in Fallout 4 are - the latest Bethesda game that came out year before this review. Skyrim was ok and they somehow managed to downgrade it by giving player freedom to walk out of the conversation and making NPCs trigger relationship/quest-related dialogues few feet from the enemy. You don't even know how many times some important stuff has been interrupted for me, because of that. And it's not immersive and sometimes even gamebreaking. It's only fun in stupid reddit gifs or funny video compilations. I'd rather see NPCs frozen in the background.
Aramey I remember I was talking to someone in Skyrim and then randomly, some guy pushed me and I kept going further and further away from the person I was talking too. I was so confused but I laughed my ass off. Only happened once and that one time was hilarious.
I had 0 frozen convos in Fall out 4. 0. Also 0 in Skyrim after around 4k hours playing total on three different machines. PC PS4 and Xbox 360. Maybe your machine sucks?
I agree with this, I much prefer having the game stop while I get important dialogue out of the way before fighting the dragon that's attack, rather than being like "conversation conversation conversati-" fight dragon, miss half the dialogue "do you want to help me with this quest?" "Oh I'm sorry I missed what you said due to a dragon".
I disagree with time stopping when you speak being a bad thing. It helps to create a closed system to let triggers happen without outside interference. It also helped eliminate noise. And I notice you compared it to Fallout 4, rather than Skyrim, which showcased just why it needed to be stopped. In Skyrim, an NPC could initiate conversation with you, mid battle, getting you hacked to death by bandits as you fumble to stop the conversation. Also, sometimes you think about what to say next, not because your character's wondering, but you're wondering which response is in-character. I don't need for time to pass as the PLAYER is thinking. I also don't need to hear those damn idle lines either. I'd rather have a mediocre dialogue in stopped time with working triggers. Over a dialogue I can barely hear due to the car we shot while fighting ghouls just exploded, being interrupted by more ghouls, meaning the conversation stops, and then having to do it again, and THEN find out I haven't initiated the trigger, meaning I have to talk again or worst case scenario, use console commands. The problem with live dialogue, is that Bethesda RPGs aren't reliable enough. I use subtitles, not because I have trouble understanding English, but because I can't hear what they're saying over the battle music that's still playing full volume.
People complain that it ruins the immersion when time freezes, but yeah, it ruins the immersion just as much when dialogue is just paused mid-sentence, only for the NPC to start all over again as if you'd met for the first time all over again. So yes, I preferred Oblivion's way of doing it.
Really? Nothing about the enemies scaling with your level? Nothing about your GEAR having to scale with your level? I agree that it is a great game, but there is a very good reason I beat it at LEVEL 2. They are called Spriggans, and if I never see one again it will be too soon.
But in Oblivion the main quest, albeit the main storyline, is just a small part of the game. You can never do it and still do so much more, or you can do it and do so much more after it. Compared to all dungeons, caves, ruins, Fighters Guild, Mage Guild, Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, the Arena, and side quests (like all the shrines, for example), the main quest is nothing.
You know, I never actually had this weird thing where people would change their entire persona in voice acting like that Moth Monk and the beggar woman.
This video was hilarious! I pretty much share your opinions on everything you mentioned. In my case I played Morrowind first and when I played Oblivion it blew me away. It'll always be my favourite game, for reasons you mentioned and more. Although, I do love all Bethesda's games from Morrowind to Fallout 4 :)
please, you have to ackknowledge the flawed progression-system, which was the core of Oblivions problem not the level scaling. most of the default classes were not suitable and if you don´t know the details of the level-skill system and played accordingly, it was very likely you end up getting weaker compared to your enemies. because you can level up with skills like lockpicking, barter or alchemy, which makes you higher level but not better in combat. especially endurance is very important to max out as early and quickly as you can ,because it determines the amount of HP you get.without that, you won´t last long in later game , and that´s especially difficult for mage and stealth-players.
i would rather things gradually change, so i can adjust myself, rather than stumbling into enemies way higher level than me, or one hitting everything because i found this quest later than i should have.
Lol I agree, getting lost in Morrowind was great. I first got lost at a low level with no potions and when I finally battled my way back to Balmora, it felt all the more satisfying. I actually went into a bar and drank. Loved how I actually felt both me and my character as part of the actual world. Can't say the same for the later games
I don't really think the dialog froze up background was a bad idea. Sure, it looks sort of surreal, but it's much better than, say, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., where I couldn't talk to a man properly cause we were out in the woods and effing mutant dogs just kept raiding us and I had to restart the dialog for like 5 times.
'Wait a minute, let me do that one again.' I can't believe I never heard that one before in all my years playing and modding Oblivion. I wonder if it has been patched out
Oh and the "Skyrim colder" while technically yeah probably there are real world places that due to proximity to mountain ranges, oceans or just how the currents travel can be hotter than places directly below. Also as we don't really have seasons Skyrim can be in "the summer" season of whatever that is in ES universe.
I think that voice over mistake is a good example of how big this game is and how much the voice actors cared. She actually wanted to do a second take, and i can see how you would hear the beginning and just plug it in and move on to the next voice line, as you have over 10,000 to assign.
One thing i really loved that skyrim and oblivion couldn't quite pull off. When I was playing Morrowind the first time, and I saw a daedric ruin appear out of the fog, I was all "What the fuck is that?! I don't know, but I bet if I go there i'm going to die."
Come on... NOTHING beats the classic "Agent Shadow, head to the Wave Ocean... Head to Wave Ocean... Agent Shadow, head to Wave Ocean immediately" bloody classic xD
I actually prefer that the camera zoom in during the dialogue cause in skyrim I didn't remember half of the characters I talked to they felt more generic cause whatever they said end up being just something that someone said.
I never really minded the diceroll combat in morrowind you can usually negate early game issues with missing by making your choice of weapon a major skill
I took the test from the old man in the beginning of Morrowind and ending up being the literal exact opposite of what I wanted to be. Terrible idea on my part, but, I’m still playing it and I’m having fun. That dice roll shit was annoying at first but, I got used to it.
My biggest complaint with Oblivion was the lack of cohesion between factions and characters. Every Guild and Quest is cut off from the rest of the game. Each guild has its own mini story, which is cool but Bethesda didn't bother to make any connections. For instance: The Mages guild are the experts on Daedra, but they are not even consulted in the main quest. Why doesn't Martin send you to Archmage Traven for help with the Mysterium Xarxes? Or if you are the Archmage why does he not consult you? Why can't the player Archmage call on his or her mages to help with Oblivion portals? This is just one of the many ways the game is completely disconnected. Morrowind did this much better, every faction had a purpose, and were connected to each other in some way.
Don't forget about the fact that Oblivion actively punishes you for finishing the main quest, since the source for the best and most efficient enchants possible is sigilstones which you can no longer obtain after finishing the main story.
Also Morrowind had fast travel kind of, it had a payed transit system. Think of MMORPG portals in towns but you have to pay for them. Also as far as I remember you could use spells.
11:35 - Yeah. That is something Skyrim got "fixed". Most Gates have the same map and it felt like I made one and the same gate three times by now... Closing the Ovlivion gates is a very loooong process that can get boring realy fast.
I enjoyed your take on the game! I could never get into this one because role-playing wise you really couldn't ignore the main quest which felt like such a chore with all the oblivion portals, but I enjoyed Morrowind and Skyrim. One bit I thought was ironic however was at around 8:15 when you mentioned Morrowind's combat not being interesting but the video is simply you chasing around people with the left click held. At least Morrowind's combat required a bit of strategy lol
You could completely ignore it. Or shut the first and only one and save Kvatch and NEVER talk to Martin. No gates spring open after that as long as you don't talk to Martin at the refugee camp. Cyrodiil is completely safe and you get referred to as the Hero of Kvatch. You never ever need to do the main quest line and a lot of people never do it or don't on replays.
Awwwww,.... finally someone who speaks my mind! Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes! Oblivion is the better Elder Scrolls game whilst not being the better game in all points!
Honestly, I love TES games for pure story/background lore. The games can be fun when questing or just exploring, but that doesn't work so much as you go back in time through the series. I feel like I would see TES universe as more of a storybook if not for its modding community, who work very hard, yet enthusiastically to improve the game in ways that the devs should have. (I.e. making combat more enjoyable, and adding more story that is not canon, yet is all lore friendly and would fit)
Oblivion really doesn't let you go nuts and do anything. There are beggars flagged as essential npcs and the leveling system is totally broken which undermines your combat point as well.
I love how half the complaints about Oblivion as it compares to Skyrim is “wahhh, the vastly superior stats system and leveling makes me pay attention and actually roleplay.”
Skyrim was my first Elder Scrolls game, but after playing it to the point where there was little else left to do, I still wanted new adventures and bought Oblivion for dirt cheap. Best $11 I ever invested, because I played it equally as much as Skyrim. It took some getting used to going backwards in a series, but I agree, the game felt much better in a lot of ways. Funny you mention the outdoors scenery of Oblivion as sub par compared to Morrowind, but even though the graphics weren't as refined as Skyrim, I thought Oblivion with it's Cyrodil map offered more types of scenery than Skyrim. Skyrim felt like an epic Norse quest whereas Oblivion felt more like the Lord of the Rings. I felt Skyrim's main quest was good, especially traveling to Sovngarde, but the battle of Mehrunes seemed more urgent, like it really mattered. When you finish the main quest in Skyrim NPCs are like "meh" to you, but after finishing the main quest in Oblivion, NPCs call you the Champion of Cyrodil, etc. Like you actually did something. Plus, you close all the gates up in Oblivion, whereas in Skyrim, dragons still pop up wherever they want even after the quest.
I'm sorry but I don't know what you are talking about. Morrowind's environments actually all look like potato garbage to me, and infact oblivion's environments and the forests that you didn't like looks serene and beautiful and atmospheric.
Firstly - I loved Morrowind/Oblivion and Skyrim, but I do disagree with you on the combat in Oblivion. For me it felt backwards - At low level everything is easy (Saving all the guards in Kvatch at level 1 is far easier than Level 40, mainly because the guards had static levels and the daedra levelled with you) and when you get high level, then every single enemy become nothing but a HP tank. The opposite is true in Morrowind - you start off weak and easy to be killed by even a mudcrab, but by the end you become so overpowered that practically nothing kills you (Unless you allow yourself to get surround and stun locked :P). Just my own personal opinion though - I prefer starting weak and training my skills to become strong rather than Oblivion's "Oh hey, did you level up? Let's double all the enemy HP!".. Yeah o.k that an exaggeration, but it gets t he point across :P
And in Skyrim you have to be careful what you do. Concentrate on very few things (like only bow, sneaking and light armour) and you're overpowered pretty fast, but try everything you can get your hand on, and your enemies will be the overpowered ones, because they seem to count agains the sum of your experience. First Bethesda game I played that had a fun experience system was Fallout 4, but don't tell the purists.
Stewart Bates You can turn the difficulty down to scale down enemy hp. So at the beginning just turn the difficulty up and then as it goes on, scale it back.
I actually liked Morrowind combat more, statistics made more enemies diverse in combat forcing you to try new approaches to defeat em. I will never forget some female necromancer in some tomb that was hitting me so fast with fists fatiguing me in 2 seconds but couldn't kill me for like 10 minutes... :)
I absolutely loved Oblivion and played it for hundreds of hours. Until one day I fired it up and as quickly as it won me over, I lost all interest in it and have never played it again, not even once. But for the time I was playing it I was completely hooked. Though for me personally Skyrim is by far the best and most accessable of these games
I played 3 elder scrolls in this sequence: Skyrim -> Oblivion -> Morrowind So started with the newest and went backwards and I must say, I love Skyrim, I really love Oblivion but Morrowind is one of the single best games I have ever played. The whole experience of Morrowind to me is just much more fun than the other two, Also it feels like Morrowind has just a lot more to offer, almost feels like I am playing multiple games because of how different some aspects and areas feel compared to each other, while I skyrim and Oblivion everything sort of feels (and looks) the same.
Morrowind made you think before going to do something which is what made it great for me Its the same kind of difficulty of xcom or darkest dungeon You have to prepare for anything if rngesus feels like blessing you then thats cool but if you get alot of shitty rolls and luck based shit you need a backup plan
I’m a huge fan of Morrowind, Oblivion AND Skyrim. I think each game did something better than the other two, and of course something not quite as well as the others. Morrowind had the best item diversity (weapons, potions, spells, etc.). Oblivion had the best quests (IMO). Skyrim had the best user interface, and probably the most balanced encounters in terms of loot/enemy level relative to your own, too. This is to name only a few things; there are obviously many more things that each game did better than the other installments.
My problem with all the Elder Scrolls games (and indeed Fallout since Bethesda took over) is that if you feel the need to put in a fast travel system into your game so the player doesn't get bored travelling the map, then there isn't enough interesting stuff in the map.
Morrowind had the best solution. A fast travel istn wrong at all, but not by player alone. If some fella says hey me and ma brahmin brings ya there it would be ok.
"Wait let me do that one again" i agree this line crushes everything else :D
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TES2 Daggerfall was named after the capital of the province it was set in, so technically it is named after a location.
you mean the province of daggerfall? The one that shares it's name with the capital. Just like the other 2 main kingdoms in the area Sentinel and Wayrest.
dude da fuck, the provice is high rock, but seeing your coment makes me think that the rock isn't the only one high XD
Bruh, High Rock at this time was divided into several warring kingdoms who basically just paid taxes to the emperor, so calling them separate provinces isn't too far off.
It's also worth mentioning that "Arena" was a nickname for Tamriel, because I guess there was a lot of dangerous fighting going on in the empire.
No the province really is High Rock Daggerfall, Wayrest and the other kingdoms are part of said province. The title province refers to the imperial organisation whilst the kingdoms are detemined by local politics.
I'd also say that sidequests are much better than Skyrim's. There are some really memorable ones in Oblivion.
I agree. I still remember seeing that head on a plate during my Dark Brotherhood play through. Got some Friday The 13th vibes from that shit.
Haha yes, i love the creepy ones too. Specially fucking Glarthir. Who turned the game into a survival horror game. But for real, some quests had so much detail. If you went into Glarthir's house for an example (which wasn't a part of the quest anyway) you could find details of his insanity. A battleaxe next to his bed, books piled all around the house, notes of his paranoia in his basement and so on.
Yeah that kind of environmental storytelling and incredible attention to detail are unparalleled by anything till this day.
It makes the whole world and the people feel alive. Like you're inside a society of some sort. Which is a really cozy immersion to walk into a city and feel like it is alive. Even if some dialogue is copy pasted. I like them having alot of different things to say. While in Skyrim their dialogue is minimal.
1. *MANY SAY* that Oblivion is even better than Morrowind. But is it true? Or Morrowind is actually better than Oblivion? 2. People say that Skyrim is worse than Oblivion and Morrowind, but is it better than Daggerfall? Some say that Daggerfall is better than Skyrim.
So much to do, so much to find and explore, so much to kill, and so much to hoard... So much to see, so what’s wrong with taking the backstreets?
Too many words, doesn't match the rythm. Fucking fail, pleb.
At first, I thought it was a joke with about the song All Star, but it was wrong. Then it read the rest of the comment and found it it IS a joke about the song All Star. I’m sorry, but there are too many words for the joke to work.
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I really hated going through Oblivion gates and closing them. Doing one was enough.
NONE of them were required besides like 3-5 because of main story questing. So this point is invalid
despite it’s flaws, I have been playing this game for over a decade and I still find new things to smile about. if you havent played it, give it a try.
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My unpopular opinion is that the Morrowind combat system wasn't "flawed"... in ways i actually think its the best combat system in TES. The problem with the combat system is the lack of animation to make you understand what is actually going on. IF they had actually animated a Miss animation, or a dodge animation to show what actually happens, the combat would be a lot better and the combat would be a lot more fast passed and epic to look at imo... I love that the game takes so many things into account. Stamina matters, skill matters...
It makes sense that your a lvl 1 prisoner cant go up with your knife... hell even with a sword and swing it at a knight and expect
to hit him... your untrained swings will be parried or dodge, and he will cut you open in 1-3 moves.. he has trained in his armor and
weapons his whole life... IT also makes it possible for you to wear lesser tier armor and weapons and still win.. if your skill is
high enough, as a blocked attack means no damage, and high enough agility and luck makes you dodge enemy attacks.
I wish the future TES games would take back the Morrowind combat system... Add in parry and dodge animations to better visible relay what your "dice roll" (as the system is more in line with d&d than the "sword hits hitbox" mechanics) visible.
One thing - Mehrunes Dagon isn't a demi-god. The Daedric Prices are gods, in every sense of the word. Daedric Princes are et'Ada, as are the nine divines, just a different aspect.
The thing I have come to notice about The Elder Scrolls games is that each one excels in a different way. All you can say is "I like so this one more than that one" It comes down to a preference in style, gameplay and presentation. You can certainly say an element of one of the games is bad, but you can't say the entire game is terrible as a whole, and why people are so split about which one they like most.
At 6:10, I totally forgot how the mages towers in morrowind forced you to invest in some kind of levitation spell, because of vertical tunnels without stairs. I LOVED that in morrowind.
If I'm in Italy and head north, I would run into massive, freezing cold mountains. That would clearly mean that everything further north than the Alps would be freezing cold and mountainous.
I love the fuck out of Morrowind and Oblivion.
One thing I liked about Oblivion was the companions. They were all somewhat hidden and there was only like 5 so getting a good one felt really special. I remember rocking the adoring fan for a long time just so I could have someone help me out until I found the ex-blades guy and sealed the adoring fan in oblivion.
One thing that people nowadays forget about Morrowind is that it didn't have scaling enemies, it had location based enemies. If you ventured into the wrong place, you'd get torn to pieces. This was removed in Oblivion and replaced by enemies that scale based on your level. It was also present in Skyrim. And in my opinion, it was a change for worse.
All the awe and danger of adventuring was removed by having enemies that scale. No matter where you go in Skyrim, you'll never encounter anything that will completely annihilate you. And pretty much same is true for Oblivion.
I remember when Morrowind came, and we picked it up with a friend of mine. He decided to "screw these quests, lets just go exploring" and so he went for a trip around the island, following the shoreline. Soon he encountered enemies that he could barely hit, taking dozens if not hundreds of hits to kill. He ran out of food and potions, and all his armor and weapons broke. He had to scrounge anything and everything just to survive. He had to run away from most encounters, because he just couldn't win. Any town, village or hut he found was a sorely needed sanctuary for rest and trade, and a place where he could breathe freely.
Occasionally, he would find a cave or ruin that had some extremely powerful monsters, and he would sneak around them, run away from them or use all his might to kill them, and see what treasures these locations held. In some of the caves and ruins he found a few coins, some rusted swords and worn armor - nothing special - but in one of them... on some barely noticeable ledge that was just out of reach, there was a glimmer. My friend had to use that special levitation scroll he had been saving to be able to reach that ledge, and there he found a sword that was like no other.
With that sword, and his harsh training, my friend was finally able to slay the powerful monsters that were tormenting him. The prey had become the predator. It still took a lot of work, and without adequate armor, it was still very dangerous, but now he didn't have to run away from every encounter anymore. Being able to hold his own on this harsh island, he was better suited to explore more dangerous places, with even better items in them. On his adventures he had become more shrewd and cunning, and in towns he could sweet talk the vendors to part with more gold. He was selling rarer and more expensive items, which meant he could buy better equipment. Even the climate had changed to an ashen wasteland, as if to mirror the tempered and weary mind of his character.
Eventually, the land changed again, to a more friendly swamp, or some hearty forest, the enemies became easier and easier and even the townspeople were friendlier again. The journey was nearing its end. And when my friend finally reached the location where he had started his adventure, he came to a realization: nothing there could oppose his might. This journey had made him immensely strong. He had found weapons and armor others could only dream of. Unique, one of a kind items that no one else in this world had. He had honed his skills to their absolute best. He could swim as fast as others ran, he could jump on top of buildings, and he could cut beasts in half with one hit; beasts that not even five or ten men could kill.
...and this, kids, is the experience that Oblivion and Skyrim will never offer. It may be an experience that no game will offer ever again. And that is why Morrowind is the best Elder Scrolls game ever made.
When I first heard the line I was like "Well that's disappointing." Then I heard the "Wait let me do that again".
First time I ever played Morrowwind I couldn't even kill a rat. Naturally, I returned it to the store asking for a new copy because I was convinced my copy was broken/glitched to hell.
Nickoli Lion I'm surprised, because when I first started out, I used only my fists and did just fine.
Morrowinds "system" is indeed something extraordinary.
holy shit this is the reason i didnt play any fallout before 3. i came out of the vault missed a 60% shot on a rat 5 times in a row and uninstalled the game.
I thought mine was glitches too! Luckily, I looked it up before I made the mistake of uninstalling it XD
Too bad, first Fallout is quite a ride. But i do agree its a little hardcore to a new player. I still remember how i constantly kept dying in first few minutes of the game, getting literally slaughtered by radscorpions... It took me a couple deaths before i realized im not supposed to fight them, i just have to run and try to survive... That was a shocker. And thats what made fallout so exceptional. It was a gamd about survival in harsh, cruel and unforgiving world. The second Fallout was casual, the third one was a joke. I havent played new vegas yet though.
Good review. I still play Morrowind to this day, but you've inspired me to fire up Oblivion for another go around. Time to get lost in the Madhouse.
I've watched masses of videos on UA-cam on people saying skyrim is the best or oblivion or morrowind, and they all have 1 think in common, the person arguing for their favourite game played it before the others
Tbh each of them have their pros and cons. Guilds were best in oblivion, immersion was the strongest in morrowind (it had its flaws though), and Skyrim has dragons. Also, Oblivion had dumb dialouges, Morrowind's world felt creepily dead, and Skyrim got rid of spell creation, which was the serie greatest strength. It's about what matters to you the most in gaming.
Oblivion is my favorite of the series and I played a lot of Morrowind long before it.
Possumlove, fair point, but shooting fire is the least fun you could have with spell creation in these games ;) My favorite spell to create was causing my target to flee for 5 seconds, and adding 100 speed and 100 athletics to them. Imagine fighting something, then casting this spell, and watching them run away in faster-than-light-cartoonish manner.
Paralyze effect was also crazy fun in oblivion, due to hilarious rag-doll.
Or imagine creating a fireball... the size of half of the city, causing every object with implemented physics engine fly in the sky. FUN
That's what the spell creation was about - unrestricted, creative fun.
A mage duel on the side of the road is what ruins it for you? Not the lizard/cat people, floating insect jellyfish, dragons, undead, werewolves, lack of infrastructure to support the supposed population, etc...
I don’t know man...you do you, but it seems rather strange that something so core and such a large part of tamriel disrupt your immersion.
11:00 This criticism about frozen conversations seems odd considering how fucked the unfrozen ones in Fallout 4 are - the latest Bethesda game that came out year before this review. Skyrim was ok and they somehow managed to downgrade it by giving player freedom to walk out of the conversation and making NPCs trigger relationship/quest-related dialogues few feet from the enemy. You don't even know how many times some important stuff has been interrupted for me, because of that. And it's not immersive and sometimes even gamebreaking. It's only fun in stupid reddit gifs or funny video compilations. I'd rather see NPCs frozen in the background.
Aramey I remember I was talking to someone in Skyrim and then randomly, some guy pushed me and I kept going further and further away from the person I was talking too. I was so confused but I laughed my ass off.
Only happened once and that one time was hilarious.
I had 0 frozen convos in Fall out 4. 0. Also 0 in Skyrim after around 4k hours playing total on three different machines. PC PS4 and Xbox 360. Maybe your machine sucks?
I agree with this, I much prefer having the game stop while I get important dialogue out of the way before fighting the dragon that's attack, rather than being like "conversation conversation conversati-" fight dragon, miss half the dialogue "do you want to help me with this quest?" "Oh I'm sorry I missed what you said due to a dragon".
Yeah but people have complained so much and made so many memes I doubt Bethesda games will go back to a "convo pause" system, as I like to call it.
Desmond, you are talking to Sincerely right? lol
I disagree with time stopping when you speak being a bad thing.
It helps to create a closed system to let triggers happen without outside interference. It also helped eliminate noise.
And I notice you compared it to Fallout 4, rather than Skyrim, which showcased just why it needed to be stopped.
In Skyrim, an NPC could initiate conversation with you, mid battle, getting you hacked to death by bandits as you fumble to stop the conversation.
Also, sometimes you think about what to say next, not because your character's wondering, but you're wondering which response is in-character. I don't need for time to pass as the PLAYER is thinking. I also don't need to hear those damn idle lines either.
I'd rather have a mediocre dialogue in stopped time with working triggers. Over a dialogue I can barely hear due to the car we shot while fighting ghouls just exploded, being interrupted by more ghouls, meaning the conversation stops, and then having to do it again, and THEN find out I haven't initiated the trigger, meaning I have to talk again or worst case scenario, use console commands.
The problem with live dialogue, is that Bethesda RPGs aren't reliable enough.
I use subtitles, not because I have trouble understanding English, but because I can't hear what they're saying over the battle music that's still playing full volume.
People complain that it ruins the immersion when time freezes, but yeah, it ruins the immersion just as much when dialogue is just paused mid-sentence, only for the NPC to start all over again as if you'd met for the first time all over again. So yes, I preferred Oblivion's way of doing it.
It's not like oblivion really gives you a choice in how you respond. Though, I agree with you fully.
Really? Nothing about the enemies scaling with your level? Nothing about your GEAR having to scale with your level? I agree that it is a great game, but there is a very good reason I beat it at LEVEL 2. They are called Spriggans, and if I never see one again it will be too soon.
But in Oblivion the main quest, albeit the main storyline, is just a small part of the game. You can never do it and still do so much more, or you can do it and do so much more after it. Compared to all dungeons, caves, ruins, Fighters Guild, Mage Guild, Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, the Arena, and side quests (like all the shrines, for example), the main quest is nothing.
You know, I never actually had this weird thing where people would change their entire persona in voice acting like that Moth Monk and the beggar woman.
This video was hilarious! I pretty much share your opinions on everything you mentioned. In my case I played Morrowind first and when I played Oblivion it blew me away. It'll always be my favourite game, for reasons you mentioned and more. Although, I do love all Bethesda's games from Morrowind to Fallout 4 :)
please, you have to ackknowledge the flawed progression-system, which was the core of Oblivions problem not the level scaling. most of the default classes were not suitable and if you don´t know the details of the level-skill system and played accordingly, it was very likely you end up getting weaker compared to your enemies. because you can level up with skills like lockpicking, barter or alchemy, which makes you higher level but not better in combat. especially endurance is very important to max out as early and quickly as you can ,because it determines the amount of HP you get.without that, you won´t last long in later game , and that´s especially difficult for mage and stealth-players.
Equi librium just get illusion to 50 and buy a chameleon spell. Then enchant gear to get 100 chameleon.
This was also a thing in morrowind.
Yeah, Ikr. There are also ways to get 100% spellreflection or damagereflection. Which seems fun but gets boring really quickly.
i would rather things gradually change, so i can adjust myself, rather than stumbling into enemies way higher level than me, or one hitting everything because i found this quest later than i should have.
I agree oblivion was is and will always be my favorite game... Although I'm abit curious about what your first favorite game is
Unreal Tournament GOTY. Hands down the best game in my eyes.
True Review: cool I heard of it, it looks pretty cool I will definitely check it out
Your strenght and brutality are legendary.The time has come to prove you are the best,to crush your enemies,TO WIN THE TOURNAMENT.
*talks about oblivion, skyrim music in the backround*
EXTRA THICC this is real music ua-cam.com/video/0pcsIxuT1q4/v-deo.html
I think you mean Marrowind, haha.
Skyrim often uses morrowind music in game.
Lol I agree, getting lost in Morrowind was great. I first got lost at a low level with no potions and when I finally battled my way back to Balmora, it felt all the more satisfying. I actually went into a bar and drank. Loved how I actually felt both me and my character as part of the actual world. Can't say the same for the later games
I don't really think the dialog froze up background was a bad idea. Sure, it looks sort of surreal, but it's much better than, say, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., where I couldn't talk to a man properly cause we were out in the woods and effing mutant dogs just kept raiding us and I had to restart the dialog for like 5 times.
Am I the only one who likes horse armour?
'Wait a minute, let me do that one again.'
I can't believe I never heard that one before in all my years playing and modding Oblivion. I wonder if it has been patched out
*When I talk to someone in Oblivion and zooms in:*
*ME:* *GOOD GOD! WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR FACE?!*
Oh right... it's the graphics...
At least i know im not the only person who spends time in towns jumping roof to roof
Oh and the "Skyrim colder" while technically yeah probably there are real world places that due to proximity to mountain ranges, oceans or just how the currents travel can be hotter than places directly below. Also as we don't really have seasons Skyrim can be in "the summer" season of whatever that is in ES universe.
I think that voice over mistake is a good example of how big this game is and how much the voice actors cared. She actually wanted to do a second take, and i can see how you would hear the beginning and just plug it in and move on to the next voice line, as you have over 10,000 to assign.
One thing i really loved that skyrim and oblivion couldn't quite pull off. When I was playing Morrowind the first time, and I saw a daedric ruin appear out of the fog, I was all "What the fuck is that?! I don't know, but I bet if I go there i'm going to die."
Come on... NOTHING beats the classic "Agent Shadow, head to the Wave Ocean... Head to Wave Ocean... Agent Shadow, head to Wave Ocean immediately" bloody classic xD
That guitar teacher also broke a g-string during the altercation.
I actually prefer that the camera zoom in during the dialogue cause in skyrim I didn't remember half of the characters I talked to they felt more generic cause whatever they said end up being just something that someone said.
Finally! Someone talks about how amazing Knights of the Nine:Revalations is!!!!!
I never really minded the diceroll combat in morrowind
you can usually negate early game issues with missing by making your choice of weapon a major skill
It isnt that bad at all. But to add more sense the player should get a hit bonus to unarmed targets.
I took the test from the old man in the beginning of Morrowind and ending up being the literal exact opposite of what I wanted to be.
Terrible idea on my part, but, I’m still playing it and I’m having fun.
That dice roll shit was annoying at first but, I got used to it.
Or spell. Mage classes are king.
I remember the first time I played Oblivion. I entered Vindasel at level 1. I thought that I could take umbra.
I only recently came back to it.
I was like, 7. I wasn’t very smart.
Me and my mate lost it laughing when we got the monk whose voice changes between lines
My biggest complaint with Oblivion was the lack of cohesion between factions and characters. Every Guild and Quest is cut off from the rest of the game. Each guild has its own mini story, which is cool but Bethesda didn't bother to make any connections. For instance: The Mages guild are the experts on Daedra, but they are not even consulted in the main quest. Why doesn't Martin send you to Archmage Traven for help with the Mysterium Xarxes? Or if you are the Archmage why does he not consult you? Why can't the player Archmage call on his or her mages to help with Oblivion portals? This is just one of the many ways the game is completely disconnected. Morrowind did this much better, every faction had a purpose, and were connected to each other in some way.
I loved that game so much.
Elders Scrolls 2 Daggerfall is set in a region called Daggerfall, in High Rock yes.
I have Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim and I can say that they all did something good
Don't forget about the fact that Oblivion actively punishes you for finishing the main quest, since the source for the best and most efficient enchants possible is sigilstones which you can no longer obtain after finishing the main story.
Do you like hazelnuts True Reviews?
Yeah, I guess they're ok... I take it you like them?
Yeah, I like them quite a lot, but not as much as Elders Scrolls Morrowind.
Daggerfall is capital of Highrock and Redguards are people of Hammerfall so you can guess by that.
Oblivion is and always will be Bethesda's crowning achievement.
Game of the year, all year, every year.
Also Morrowind had fast travel kind of, it had a payed transit system. Think of MMORPG portals in towns but you have to pay for them. Also as far as I remember you could use spells.
Why didn't you pick up the blacksmith pants from that raider?
I hated how at high levels, leveled enemies like ogres becames such damage sponges, and the glitch of doom too of course
The south of Skyrim is less snowy than the north of Cyrodiil.
Which would you pick, a remaster of Oblivion, or a remaster of Morrowind?
If I had to pick then Morrowind. I don't think Oblivion needs a remastering if I'm honest, even with everything that's wrong with it.
Easy. Morrowind
Tyler Nolan Morrowind by far, that gem deserves a remaster with some reworks to the core gameplay.
None. Both are fine the way they are.
Maybe so but I dont care. Changing anything may make them worse.
We need this to be remastered
My favourite was always "Turns out there's TWO Wood-Elf sisters who always fight together!" Pronounced as though had he thought there were three.
Oblivion is bae.
11:35 - Yeah. That is something Skyrim got "fixed".
Most Gates have the same map and it felt like I made one and the same gate three times by now... Closing the Ovlivion gates is a very loooong process that can get boring realy fast.
I enjoyed your take on the game! I could never get into this one because role-playing wise you really couldn't ignore the main quest which felt like such a chore with all the oblivion portals, but I enjoyed Morrowind and Skyrim.
One bit I thought was ironic however was at around 8:15 when you mentioned Morrowind's combat not being interesting but the video is simply you chasing around people with the left click held. At least Morrowind's combat required a bit of strategy lol
You could completely ignore it. Or shut the first and only one and save Kvatch and NEVER talk to Martin. No gates spring open after that as long as you don't talk to Martin at the refugee camp. Cyrodiil is completely safe and you get referred to as the Hero of Kvatch. You never ever need to do the main quest line and a lot of people never do it or don't on replays.
Surely the whole conversation system pausing the game was an engine limitation.
I'd be down for a game with a static map (didn't show your position), more limited fast travel and no quest markers.
Awwwww,.... finally someone who speaks my mind! Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes! Oblivion is the better Elder Scrolls game whilst not being the better game in all points!
My goodness that delivery of "He fingered a minor" is the best thing I've heard in a while.
Honestly, I love TES games for pure story/background lore. The games can be fun when questing or just exploring, but that doesn't work so much as you go back in time through the series. I feel like I would see TES universe as more of a storybook if not for its modding community, who work very hard, yet enthusiastically to improve the game in ways that the devs should have. (I.e. making combat more enjoyable, and adding more story that is not canon, yet is all lore friendly and would fit)
Oblivion really doesn't let you go nuts and do anything. There are beggars flagged as essential npcs and the leveling system is totally broken which undermines your combat point as well.
oh you didn't mention the singer from cheydinhal, his song is my fav line in oblivion
I got oblivion when I was like 12 so I bought the horse armor. I loved it too
I thought they paused during dialogue in Oblivion because the game couldn't handle running everything while running through dialogue trees.
Remember this is a fantasy world
I love how half the complaints about Oblivion as it compares to Skyrim is “wahhh, the vastly superior stats system and leveling makes me pay attention and actually roleplay.”
Sooo... Where's the rant?
Skyrim was my first Elder Scrolls game, but after playing it to the point where there was little else left to do, I still wanted new adventures and bought Oblivion for dirt cheap. Best $11 I ever invested, because I played it equally as much as Skyrim. It took some getting used to going backwards in a series, but I agree, the game felt much better in a lot of ways. Funny you mention the outdoors scenery of Oblivion as sub par compared to Morrowind, but even though the graphics weren't as refined as Skyrim, I thought Oblivion with it's Cyrodil map offered more types of scenery than Skyrim. Skyrim felt like an epic Norse quest whereas Oblivion felt more like the Lord of the Rings. I felt Skyrim's main quest was good, especially traveling to Sovngarde, but the battle of Mehrunes seemed more urgent, like it really mattered. When you finish the main quest in Skyrim NPCs are like "meh" to you, but after finishing the main quest in Oblivion, NPCs call you the Champion of Cyrodil, etc. Like you actually did something. Plus, you close all the gates up in Oblivion, whereas in Skyrim, dragons still pop up wherever they want even after the quest.
Dragons are Oblivion gates. They seem really cool and exiting at first but than it gets tiresome.
Have you heard of the high elves?
"Have you hear of the high elves?" I think that everyone has heard of the Altmer...if not then their not hard to miss.
haven't done that quest yet, what quest is that?
What?
is that line from a certain quest?
Nothing I'd like to talk about.
I'm sorry but I don't know what you are talking about. Morrowind's environments actually all look like potato garbage to me, and infact oblivion's environments and the forests that you didn't like looks serene and beautiful and atmospheric.
Exactly. Oblivion just has that charm which I felt was absent from skyrim. But I've also been playing oblivion since it came out and I was 7. Haha
Skyrim vr has made this discussion obsolete. It's all skyrim now until they release an oblivion vr. I will keep dreaming.
Firstly - I loved Morrowind/Oblivion and Skyrim, but I do disagree with you on the combat in Oblivion. For me it felt backwards - At low level everything is easy (Saving all the guards in Kvatch at level 1 is far easier than Level 40, mainly because the guards had static levels and the daedra levelled with you) and when you get high level, then every single enemy become nothing but a HP tank. The opposite is true in Morrowind - you start off weak and easy to be killed by even a mudcrab, but by the end you become so overpowered that practically nothing kills you (Unless you allow yourself to get surround and stun locked :P). Just my own personal opinion though - I prefer starting weak and training my skills to become strong rather than Oblivion's "Oh hey, did you level up? Let's double all the enemy HP!".. Yeah o.k that an exaggeration, but it gets t he point across :P
And in Skyrim you have to be careful what you do. Concentrate on very few things (like only bow, sneaking and light armour) and you're overpowered pretty fast, but try everything you can get your hand on, and your enemies will be the overpowered ones, because they seem to count agains the sum of your experience.
First Bethesda game I played that had a fun experience system was Fallout 4, but don't tell the purists.
Stewart Bates You can turn the difficulty down to scale down enemy hp. So at the beginning just turn the difficulty up and then as it goes on, scale it back.
the reason time stops when you start a conversation is because you are secretly a psijic monk
Yeah but you have a lightsaber in Oblivion. End of story.
tes oblivion and fo3 are the most immersive and fun games ever
2:34 probably the best thing to exist
“WOW LOOKIN COOL JOKER!”
I actually liked Morrowind combat more, statistics made more enemies diverse in combat forcing you to try new approaches to defeat em. I will never forget some female necromancer in some tomb that was hitting me so fast with fists fatiguing me in 2 seconds but couldn't kill me for like 10 minutes... :)
I absolutely loved Oblivion and played it for hundreds of hours. Until one day I fired it up and as quickly as it won me over, I lost all interest in it and have never played it again, not even once. But for the time I was playing it I was completely hooked. Though for me personally Skyrim is by far the best and most accessable of these games
By the way... do you happen to know what the fine is here in Cyrodiil for necrophilia? Just asking.
I played 3 elder scrolls in this sequence: Skyrim -> Oblivion -> Morrowind
So started with the newest and went backwards and I must say, I love Skyrim, I really love Oblivion but Morrowind is one of the single best games I have ever played.
The whole experience of Morrowind to me is just much more fun than the other two,
Also it feels like Morrowind has just a lot more to offer, almost feels like I am playing multiple games because of how different some aspects and areas feel compared to each other, while I skyrim and Oblivion everything sort of feels (and looks) the same.
Arena is how Daedric Princes call Nirn
The combat system is what distances it from classic RPGs and makes it a solid action game.
This video should be titled
Morrowind vs Oblivion
did i just hear party rock anthem in 2017
Keep up the good work! U are great!!!!! :)
Morrowind made you think before going to do something which is what made it great for me
Its the same kind of difficulty of xcom or darkest dungeon
You have to prepare for anything if rngesus feels like blessing you then thats cool but if you get alot of shitty rolls and luck based shit you need a backup plan
I’m a huge fan of Morrowind, Oblivion AND Skyrim. I think each game did something better than the other two, and of course something not quite as well as the others.
Morrowind had the best item diversity (weapons, potions, spells, etc.). Oblivion had the best quests (IMO). Skyrim had the best user interface, and probably the most balanced encounters in terms of loot/enemy level relative to your own, too.
This is to name only a few things; there are obviously many more things that each game did better than the other installments.
My problem with all the Elder Scrolls games (and indeed Fallout since Bethesda took over) is that if you feel the need to put in a fast travel system into your game so the player doesn't get bored travelling the map, then there isn't enough interesting stuff in the map.
Uh well, agreed, but realistically it is pretty though to have a map of consistent intrigue on that scale. A bit of a quality/quantity dilemma.
Gary Jones I was actually fine walking from place to place in Oblivion and Fallout 3/NV.
Morrowind had the best solution.
A fast travel istn wrong at all, but not by player alone. If some fella says hey me and ma brahmin brings ya there it would be ok.
WOW, LOOKING COOL, JOKER
Wait two spin-off titles? Where are 2 spin-offs?