Good to see the new one on a job! I’m surprised that more manufacturers don’t have slides sure makes it easier to line up the boom to the load anyone else would have to move the unit! Looking forward to more from you! Take care stay safe!
NRC has had the slider system since the early 90s. Miller Industries came out with a 50ton 'roller' about 10 years ago, giving the boom assembly 5ft of back and forth travel, and then the M100 4 years ago which also has 12ft of travel.
Great video using the new 65 ton and the 50 ton the 2 rotators made it look simple lifting 30k as for the 65 T lifting the 50 T did you make a video or just take pictures .. again congratulations on the new rotator
Thank you! We did not take any video of the 50 ton getting lifted. We just did it for our own experimental use, to see how it reacted lifting that heavy of weight.
Havnt been subscribed that long so getting to know how you so things is still a learning curve. I watch Ron Platt, Murphy's Diesel,Casey LaDelle, Everything auto(smaller scale operation)and various off road recovery Channels and im always comparing them with each other ,and i watch them for good content and good natured presenting ,and in most they all have family values as a guide to what they do . It also gives me a view of the different States of the USA ,sort of touring via UA-cam. I was interested in the 65 Ton wrecker when it popped up in my feed , that's why i came to watch . I would certainly like to see a better approach to working with your co worker,and if they are not dully conversant with the machine operations,then rhey shouldn't be put in a position that they are unsure what to do ,this instance was the concern rhat his rig was going to tip over ,and as many have questioned,why wasnt the 65 the prime lifter ? The winch wasnt in high speed was it ! Better next time i would suggest,and yes if i dont like what is shown ,i can move on ,its just a click .
plaza towing is a great company there out of the California desert and pepes towing is out of Los Angeles two different landscape one is urban city towing and the other desert rual landscape
Thanks for subscribing and giving us a try! I am familiar with most of those channels as well, and frequently watch them. Of the guys/channels that are running rotators, I believe they are all running Century/Miller Industries, which jump from 50 ton up to 75 ton. The 65 ton we purchased is a strong and versatile unit made by NRC and is well known for its 'slider' system, giving close to 10 feet of back and forth travel for the entire boom assembly/ mast. I was surprised that the 50 ton was starting to float the outriggers, given the weight we were told, and my natural instinct was to take the controls for a minute to see how the truck reacted to a slight movement of the boom. Making these videos and reading the comments is also teaching me that I need to take a step back and let others gain more experience operating the trucks as well, and not immediately jumping in.
And to think that I was about to ask "What are you going to use the other rotator for now?" Well, guess you found a justification to keep without much trouble 😂
Nice lift. I didn't realize you already had a smaller rotator. I've only seen the little wreckers come by the house. Must not be on the call list for larger picks in Crawford County ? Danners always seem to get those.
You seemed like a grump for a little bit there while doing the initial pick. I'm guilty of jumping in and taking charge too. Sometimes we need to step back and teach.
@@stevewood3170 natural instinct for me to reach for the controls on the truck I have ran for the last 6 years the see how it reacted with a little adjustment of the boom, because in my opinion it should not have been floating the legs with what we were told it weighed
I’m curious as to why you see some 75 ton rotators on a single steer 3 rear axle chassis and you see some 65 ton rotators on twin steer 3 rear axle chassis trucks? I really like the look and setup on the control panels in both trucks but really like the 75 ton panel. The one thing that I do t think I would like is having to decouple the under reach/tow boom every time I wanted to utilize the crane. I’d rather the be independent from each other.
Each truck is set up however the customer decided to set it up (is the easiest answer). Some people prefer to have all the weight on 1 steer axle, and some choose to distribute the weight and have the second steer axle for extra braking power as well. Our 50 ton weighs 20,500 on the steer if the drop axle is not lowered, and the 65 ton weighs about 10k lbs more in total weight. We felt it to be safer to distribute the weight more evenly, vs having even more weight on a single steer axle.
@@WilcoxGarageRecovery Being safer and having extra braking power is definitely a good reason. Thanks for the reply! I just came across your channel yesterday and you have good looking trucks.
Yes, the remotes look identical, however the manufacturer switched a couple of the levers around. So, if I grabbed the levers by habit as if I was operating the 50 ton remote, instead of boom up/down, the 65 ton would be rotating the boom. I chose to operate it from the box to avoid a mistake, until I have the new remote memorized.
When you’re lifting a 300,000 dollar corn planter ya gotta make sure your helper knows what he’s doing. So that’s why he’s making sure the operator is seeing how to do it.
I didn't think Jeremy saw the outriggers floating from the way he was facing. That's why I stopped him so abruptly, because I was taken off guard thinking that the weight we were supposed to be lifting shouldn't have made the truck react that way. After a few minor adjustments (which I should have had him do), I felt more comfortable with the lift.
They are both rotators. A straight stick does not allow the boom to rotate. If you are thinking it's both because of unhooking the boom from the under reach, that's just the design of this truck. That allows the boom to slide back and forth, a special feature for this manufacturer.
So i have always wondered with the rotators with air ride suspension, Do they have limit straps or something on the axles to keep the bags from hyper extending? Because we have to chain up air ride axles for towing for that reason so wouldn't lifting a rotator for a level platform do the same or is it more the forced driving down the road that is a concern while in tow and not so much the weight of the hanging axle?
Good question, no there's no limiting straps. I have often wondered the same thing, and I think the towing aspect is more so that the rear of the truck does not have to be lifted so high into the air to get the clearance between the tires and pavement that would be needed. Also, depending on where the leveling valve is, a truck being towed could be airing the bags up, and that coupled with the hyper extending of them could cause them to blow.
The customer asked for 2 rotators, so that's what we sent. We have never lifted one of these planters before, so we had no frame of reference for pick points, etc. In the future, yes the 65 ton could easily do it alone.
It seems anti climactic to use the 50 for the heavy lift and the 65 for the hitch end. There is more training and learning to operate both machines by both operators. Using the Bailey’s was good. No damage and easy to use.
Yeah, we really didn't think it out until after we did the lift. We kind of assumed it would have been a little more balanced because of being folded up, but clearly we were wrong.
You are fair in your assessment, it's something I clearly need to focus on getting better about. I was taken off guard once I saw the outriggers on the 50 ton start to float, which is not what I expected for what the weight was supposed to be. I wanted to see how the truck reacted to a few adjustments of the boom since I have ran the truck over 6 years now.
If you keep grabbing the controls from your subordinates, instead of clearly explaining how the job should be done and letting them do it, certainly isn't helping the business.
You are correct in your assessment, I should have stopped him and then told him what movements to make with the boom. It kinda took me off guard because I didn't think it should be anywhere near the weight to make the outriggers start to float. The 50 ton does not have a scale, whereas the 65 ton does, and I still forgot to look. Had I looked, I would have known what the 50 was lifting.
👏👏👏👏👏👏💪💪💪💪💪 25:38 I’m surprised you didn’t have that truck on that end.
We certainly should have had the trucks at opposite ends than the way we did.
@@WilcoxGarageRecovery still got the job done with no issues which is what matters. 👏👏💪💪
Very nice machine i was surprised at the sliding boom mount that is real cool.
I liked the pictures of the 65 T, picking the 50T. Really shows the difference in size.
Yes, the 50ton looks small in comparison
Nice lift. Thanks for sharing and stay safe
Thanks! Same to you 👍🏻
Very interesting. Congratulations on the 65 ton.
Good to see the new one on a job! I’m surprised that more manufacturers don’t have slides sure makes it easier to line up the boom to the load anyone else would have to move the unit! Looking forward to more from you! Take care stay safe!
NRC has had the slider system since the early 90s. Miller Industries came out with a 50ton 'roller' about 10 years ago, giving the boom assembly 5ft of back and forth travel, and then the M100 4 years ago which also has 12ft of travel.
Great video. The 65 ton truck is awesome.
That's awesome
that new truck is a beast !! you can see the difference between the two trucks in lifting
Yes, it sure can handle a lot more weight, and handle it further away from the truck.
Thanks for sharing
Very enjoyable
Looking forward to seeing your next
Where was Zach
Thank you! I don't recall where Zach was for this one.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
It was an impressive performance.
Yes, it takes a while before you can use that machine in a playful manner.
So, see you next time
Glad you enjoyed the video! We are still learning the newer controls, but we have been impressed by the performance of it.
Nice new truck.
Great video using the new 65 ton and the 50 ton the 2 rotators made it look simple lifting 30k as for the 65 T lifting the 50 T did you make a video or just take pictures .. again congratulations on the new rotator
Thank you! We did not take any video of the 50 ton getting lifted. We just did it for our own experimental use, to see how it reacted lifting that heavy of weight.
Havnt been subscribed that long so getting to know how you so things is still a learning curve.
I watch Ron Platt, Murphy's Diesel,Casey LaDelle, Everything auto(smaller scale operation)and various off road recovery Channels and im always comparing them with each other ,and i watch them for good content and good natured presenting ,and in most they all have family values as a guide to what they do .
It also gives me a view of the different States of the USA ,sort of touring via UA-cam.
I was interested in the 65 Ton wrecker when it popped up in my feed , that's why i came to watch .
I would certainly like to see a better approach to working with your co worker,and if they are not dully conversant with the machine operations,then rhey shouldn't be put in a position that they are unsure what to do ,this instance was the concern rhat his rig was going to tip over ,and as many have questioned,why wasnt the 65 the prime lifter ?
The winch wasnt in high speed was it !
Better next time i would suggest,and yes if i dont like what is shown ,i can move on ,its just a click .
Try Pepe's or Plaza Towing out in California. Completelty different landscape..
plaza towing is a great company there out of the California desert and pepes towing is out of Los Angeles two different landscape one is urban city towing and the other desert rual landscape
@@Drpepperkev4 Cheers,I will have a look at Plaza,I've seen some of Pepes
Thanks for the suggestions
Thanks for subscribing and giving us a try! I am familiar with most of those channels as well, and frequently watch them. Of the guys/channels that are running rotators, I believe they are all running Century/Miller Industries, which jump from 50 ton up to 75 ton. The 65 ton we purchased is a strong and versatile unit made by NRC and is well known for its 'slider' system, giving close to 10 feet of back and forth travel for the entire boom assembly/ mast.
I was surprised that the 50 ton was starting to float the outriggers, given the weight we were told, and my natural instinct was to take the controls for a minute to see how the truck reacted to a slight movement of the boom. Making these videos and reading the comments is also teaching me that I need to take a step back and let others gain more experience operating the trucks as well, and not immediately jumping in.
Nice Job! Truck Looks Awesome!
Truck is badass! 👊👊
I’d throw a stylus on a magnet for the touch screen so you don’t have to pull your gloves off when it gets to be freezing out.
It can also be operated through a dial and push buttons near the control levers, but that is a decent idea
Cool new truck good luck with it.
And to think that I was about to ask "What are you going to use the other rotator for now?"
Well, guess you found a justification to keep without much trouble 😂
Yes, 2 rotators always make life more easy than just 1 😂
Nice lift. I didn't realize you already had a smaller rotator. I've only seen the little wreckers come by the house.
Must not be on the call list for larger picks in Crawford County ? Danners always seem to get those.
We are on the list, it just depends who is up next and what type of call it is.
Those trucks look great working together. You weren't kidding that one end was a lot heavier, LOL
Yeah, and to think we had a scale on the 65 and forgot to look at it 🤦♂️
You seemed like a grump for a little bit there while doing the initial pick. I'm guilty of jumping in and taking charge too. Sometimes we need to step back and teach.
Agree, it is sometimes hard to take a step back and watch someone else do the job. Something I need to get better at personnally.
Well now. You get to run two trucks at once instead of one 😂😂 just call you double time❤
I'm getting called out pretty harshly for it too 😂
Not from me I know what your going through
@@stevewood3170 natural instinct for me to reach for the controls on the truck I have ran for the last 6 years the see how it reacted with a little adjustment of the boom, because in my opinion it should not have been floating the legs with what we were told it weighed
I’m curious as to why you see some 75 ton rotators on a single steer 3 rear axle chassis and you see some 65 ton rotators on twin steer 3 rear axle chassis trucks? I really like the look and setup on the control panels in both trucks but really like the 75 ton panel. The one thing that I do t think I would like is having to decouple the under reach/tow boom every time I wanted to utilize the crane. I’d rather the be independent from each other.
Each truck is set up however the customer decided to set it up (is the easiest answer). Some people prefer to have all the weight on 1 steer axle, and some choose to distribute the weight and have the second steer axle for extra braking power as well. Our 50 ton weighs 20,500 on the steer if the drop axle is not lowered, and the 65 ton weighs about 10k lbs more in total weight. We felt it to be safer to distribute the weight more evenly, vs having even more weight on a single steer axle.
@@WilcoxGarageRecovery Being safer and having extra braking power is definitely a good reason. Thanks for the reply! I just came across your channel yesterday and you have good looking trucks.
Good video OJT for 65 ton
What a truck impressive
3 or 4 more jobs like this, and that new truck will be paid for! 😂
😂 I think you may be underestimating either the cost of the truck, or perhaps the cost of the 3 or 4 more jobs.
That was a wide load!
do u have a remote like the 50 ton on the new 65 tonne cause doing it in the box of the truck does not look effecient.
Yes, the remotes look identical, however the manufacturer switched a couple of the levers around. So, if I grabbed the levers by habit as if I was operating the 50 ton remote, instead of boom up/down, the 65 ton would be rotating the boom. I chose to operate it from the box to avoid a mistake, until I have the new remote memorized.
@@WilcoxGarageRecovery cool
When you’re lifting a 300,000 dollar corn planter ya gotta make sure your helper knows what he’s doing. So that’s why he’s making sure the operator is seeing how to do it.
I didn't think Jeremy saw the outriggers floating from the way he was facing. That's why I stopped him so abruptly, because I was taken off guard thinking that the weight we were supposed to be lifting shouldn't have made the truck react that way. After a few minor adjustments (which I should have had him do), I felt more comfortable with the lift.
Sweet!!!!!
Nice machines
Great video and job
Thank you!
@@WilcoxGarageRecovery you are welcome
I have a question r those truck setup to be a straight stick and a rotator
They are both rotators. A straight stick does not allow the boom to rotate. If you are thinking it's both because of unhooking the boom from the under reach, that's just the design of this truck. That allows the boom to slide back and forth, a special feature for this manufacturer.
I am wondering what you will do with red rotator?
The one that Zach usually drove
The red truck is just a slider, it does not rotate. We are planning to sell that one once the new 65 ton is fully stocked and in service completely.
Wonder why they didn’t use a low boy an back the planter up. Would that not be cheaper?
But hey. Cool video of the new rig
Not sure, you would certainly think it could have been possible. Either way, we're not complaining, it was fun to take 2 rotators out for once!
So i have always wondered with the rotators with air ride suspension, Do they have limit straps or something on the axles to keep the bags from hyper extending? Because we have to chain up air ride axles for towing for that reason so wouldn't lifting a rotator for a level platform do the same or is it more the forced driving down the road that is a concern while in tow and not so much the weight of the hanging axle?
Good question, no there's no limiting straps. I have often wondered the same thing, and I think the towing aspect is more so that the rear of the truck does not have to be lifted so high into the air to get the clearance between the tires and pavement that would be needed. Also, depending on where the leveling valve is, a truck being towed could be airing the bags up, and that coupled with the hyper extending of them could cause them to blow.
@@WilcoxGarageRecovery that’s a good point with the leveling valve.
What’s all the rattling? Beautiful truck though man.
I'm assuming you are referring to inside the cab? It's the passenger seat rattling whenever you hit bumpy roads. It's quite annoying I will say.
All I can say is load cells .way more accurate than some guy 😂😂
You definitely aren't wrong. Biggest mistake we made when ordering the 50 ton was not getting a scale...was a $5k option at the time.
2 rotators for that???
Heard of a spreader bar and one rotator!
Major overkill!
The customer asked for 2 rotators, so that's what we sent. We have never lifted one of these planters before, so we had no frame of reference for pick points, etc. In the future, yes the 65 ton could easily do it alone.
It seems anti climactic to use the 50 for the heavy lift and the 65 for the hitch end. There is more training and learning to operate both machines by both operators. Using the Bailey’s was good. No damage and easy to use.
I was thinking the same, but like I`m surprised that was giving a 50 ton a run for its money.
Yeah, we really didn't think it out until after we did the lift. We kind of assumed it would have been a little more balanced because of being folded up, but clearly we were wrong.
I was surprised too, which is why I reached for the control to see how the truck reacted to a few adjustments of the boom
A teacher you are not!
Jobsite humiliation in front of the customer, SMH.
Unfortunately I thought the same thing,but I don't know what the circumstances are for experience.
You are fair in your assessment, it's something I clearly need to focus on getting better about. I was taken off guard once I saw the outriggers on the 50 ton start to float, which is not what I expected for what the weight was supposed to be. I wanted to see how the truck reacted to a few adjustments of the boom since I have ran the truck over 6 years now.
I still thoroughly enjoy your videos, and appreciate your reply.
This job goes to show only one person ran the 50 ton
If you keep grabbing the controls from your subordinates, instead of clearly explaining how the job should be done and letting them do it, certainly isn't helping the business.
They just bought one of the most expensive rotators you can buy. Seems like they know how to run their own business.
You are correct in your assessment, I should have stopped him and then told him what movements to make with the boom. It kinda took me off guard because I didn't think it should be anywhere near the weight to make the outriggers start to float. The 50 ton does not have a scale, whereas the 65 ton does, and I still forgot to look. Had I looked, I would have known what the 50 was lifting.
Dude... Stop micro managing