Just watched a different video explaining that, yeah, that's what happened. He just took out the base, added the guitar riff, and recorded the vocals an octave higher from his original acoustic demo this one was based on.
Bunny Connell C’mon, anyone who arrived at the Mazarati version of this song is likely a pretty huge Prince fan. No hating, just appreciating both versions.
@@bunnyconnell1737 @Bunny Connell No! He gave this song away to his bass player. When said bass player made it way better than his shit acoustic version he "took" it back and screwed him out of millions. I Love Prince but to act like he wasn't a piece of shit is ridiculous.
@@jbones7552 that's a very simplistic take. Prince wrote a LOT of songs between 1980 & 1987, and if you've heard his original demo, you can hear why he didn't think much of it. But he also worked really fast, plus, he was a big picture kind of guy, so when he heard THIS version, he most likely also immediately heard inside his head the other elements that he later added to make the finished song. But since he DID work fast, he probably added his parts to it in a day or less, and when it was finished, he knew just where to fit it into his movie, more than anything else.
😅... Where did this come from? Its been a while since I heard my lead Vocal Version of "KISS". It was an honor for Prince to take it back from us and make it a hit. Keep in mind all, I sang this at 5am, coming off a 18 hr. day with no sleep .😮
Peace Marvin? Can you explain and/or confirm or deny the story of the process of making this song? Did you cowrite the song? How did things go in the background once Prince took it back and took all the credit? How do you feel about the bass being taken out of the final version?
@@kentalks2818 well, there's an acoustic demo of prince singing the song in full, minus the production, of course. And it sounds like he kept some backing vocals of this demo.
Yeah, while Mazarati & Brownmark got this groove started, it DEFINITELY needed Prince's vocal performance & rhythm guitar to get all the way there! Prince's post-demo contributions took the song to all new heights!
Prince provided melody, lyrics and basic song structure. Here is his original demo - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html David Z's creative elements (funky intro) were retained and he got credit - here is his account in Soundonsound: www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
Prince wrote the song and gave it to Mazarati and David Z. worked it out but Prince realized he wanted the song back and the rest is classic Prince. All depends on your taste. This version is decent but I prefer Prince.
U mean he gave it to Brown Mark who was producing their album at the time.....it was Brown Mark who reworked the instrumentals bc the original was acoustic and bluesy.
@@BigDee0903 Not according to David Z - www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss Prince provided melody, lyrics and basic song structure; and then finished off by stripping the song into a minimalist piece, adding signature guitar and vocal elements; and removing the bass.
Prince version is way more crisp!! He cut the bassline, removed all the reverb from the drums but added reverb on the kick, remixed the drums (more dominant and loud) , added some magic delay/gate to the hihat, added funk /blues guitars, changed parts of the vocal melody and sang it in dry falsetto (few if any reverb) with a lot more energy, soul and conviction... But the rest is the same!! Prince knew what he was doing!!! :)
John PRTZ he didn't hear the potential of this track until he heard MAZ's trick....then he was like..."it is..My SONG" (that's a verbatim quote about it from the Peeps involved)
The original reference by Prince, prior to this version, was more jazzy... mazarati funked it up... prince took it back and worked on it w/ Tony Christian of Mazarati, the result was prince’s Kiss.
@@DOrrCS1Studios Here is Prince's demo, with melody, basic song structure and lyrics- ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html Here is David Z's account of Kiss- www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
It was his song originally he gave it to them and they spiced it up and he took it back 😂😂😂 but it’s a masterpiece all the same!!!! Listen to the acoustic version that is the original
@@2010Gullwing Agreed. Obviously Prince deserves the initial credit for writing the song but it sure seems like Mazerati (and whoever they were working with in the studio) brought it to life, which is why he then took it back
The song would not have been a hit without Prince's melody, song structure, lyrics, and arrangement -- after Maz turned in a hum drum tune, Prince stripped off the bass and other non-essentials, added signature guitar and falsetto.
no they didn't "blow it".. when prince heard what mazarati and david z did with his demo he liked it so much he kept it for himself..the idiots at warners didn't want to release this as a single but prince persisted. result?? US number 1 smash
chris tax i had always heard Prince didn't like the song Kiss. That he didn't want to include it on Parade but Warner Bros insisted on it. Prince had said he didn't like the song Kiss because it didn't mean anything and he felt it didn't go with anything that was on Parade.
I heard straight from Brown Mark's mouth on an interview with the Prince Podcast.....that Prince came to the studio at Paisley Park while he was producing Maserati album, with a demo of Kiss and gave it to him and asked what did he think about it, he then told Prince that he didn't like the song and thought it was crap bc it was an acoustic bluesy song along with a slow tempo and that he wanted more up-tempo dance songs on the album. Prince then told him that he could re-work the song and him and Maserati ended up with this version of Kiss. Brown Mark hands this version over to Prince and tells Prince that they were leaving for lunch. He then says that he comes back about 3 or 4 hours later and Prince reworked his instrumentals but it still basically Brown Mark version from the Maserati demo and he changed the vocals to also. Brown Mark tells Prince that he thought he had given them the song and Prince says naw I'll think I will keep it for myself, but promised him writing credits, according to Brown Mark, Prince told him "u know I'm going to take care of u". Well he didn't get co-writer's credit, producer's credit.....no royalties, nada. He went on to say that "that was the stick that broke the camel's back", and cause him to quit.
In the Prince Podcast interview, Mark Brown claims Prince flew him to Minni a year before he passed to look into his new project 3rdEyeGirl. This is completely false because Prince formed 3rdEyeGirl in 2012 and bassist Ida Nielsen had been playing with him since 2010. So Mark is lying. Here is Prince's original demo, with melody, lyrics and basic song structure - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html Prince gave the demo to producer David Z whose creative input (the funky intro) he retained on the finished song, and gave him credit. The only contribution of Brown's on the finished song are his background vocals. Here is David Z's account in Soundonsound: www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
@@rockssolid2543 No Brown also mentions David in a lot of interviews but Prince being the god he is in people's eyes, has done nothing wrong. The Time still can't use the name The Time, Girls & Boys had a lot of contribution from Brown but no one will believe because now Prince is dead and everyone is taking advantage of him. But there are evidence and witnesses who will testify and have testified all you gotta do is dig deep, listen to more interviews and you will know. Alan Leeds gives the best analysis of Prince's bullshit. But no one will believe because they all are wolves. I am still a fan of his funk but that doesn't prevent me from ignoring his wrongdoings.
@@gautamdevgun333 Ah okay, is that why Mark lied about Prince wanting him to join his new band 3rdEyeGirl in 2015? Because bassist Ida Nielson was with Prince from 2010 in the NPG and 3rdEyeGirl formed years prior. . The Time was Prince -- he was even leasing (paying for) the name. Motown ended up calling Prince for songs because Brown wasn't cutting the mustard. And no self respecting pro musician would 'retire' after a few years in the game -- Mark retired in 1992. Prince's 40 year career speaks for itself. . www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7348342/jimmy-jam-remembers-prince Jimmy Jam: "Prince was the principal songwriter for The Time. [Singer] Morris Day contributed a little, but Terry Lewis and I didn’t contribute much." . My guess is that you probably don't work... this is why you don't understand the concept of working for a boss -- and Mark's boss was Prince -- he didn't even have a contract with Warner Bros.
Well, despite all that you have said, it seems everyone associated with him didn't deserve to be paid. I know Prince was responsible for The Time, but being nasty and not letting them use their original name is a sign of a highly insecure person. And as far as Mark's situation goes, he had personal demons that resulted in him retiring and working at a optic fiber cable company. If he had gotten his credit on Kiss, probably he won't have been broke. Everyone should do their duty and I am sorry to say Prince deprived a lot of people of their dues. This is the same shit that James Brown used to pull on his band mates. But an icon is never wrong. Why? Because he is simply an icon, and icons are not allowed to make mistakes or be nasty. Even if they do, they can do it because they have the power.
@@gautamdevgun333 The Time was Prince's intellectual property -- actually Warner Bros.' intellectual property. When we quit our jobs, we don't get to take the company's assets. Mind telling me how Brown was able to retire in 1992 if he wasn't getting paid? Most of us have to work until age 65... and in jobs a whole lot less funky. Mark left Prince in 1986 -- it is currently 2021. How do you pay your bills?
After years and years, I’m Hearing this version for the first time tonight. 🔥🔥🔥 That baseline is killer. Love the vocals too. Obviously Prince’s version is the superior version, but this is no slouch and funky as hell. Now just gotta hear the Prince OG acoustic version. Hope it’s posted sometime soon!
Same song different take,but lets remember Prince gave them just a bare guitar track w/ lyrics while Mazz made it into their very own and for that Prince should have have at least gave them Co Writer Credits
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wow, the main body of the song was entirely there already! thanks a lot for digging this, I had no idea Prince started from such a fully-formed version. The drum machine doesn't seem having been touched a bit! It's nice Mazarati can get more credit for their songwriting skill on this great piece
I'm so glad that Prince took this song back because this song would have went nowhere had Mazarati kept it for their album and I love Mazarati by the way. The fact that Prince took this song back and put his falsetto on it was GENIUS.....
He provided Mazarati with the melody, basic song structure and lyrics. Then took this version and removed the bass line, added signature guitar elements and falsetto, and stripped out the fat, creating a unique, minimalist, funky piece. It was a hard sell to Warner, they thought his finished Kiss sounded like a demo, and how many #1s have no bass? Prince fought for it and won.
Well in all fairness, the song was going nowhere before the rework by mazarati and David Z. The arrangement defines the song. To me, Mazarati and most likely David Z. MADE the hit. Prince sang it.
Oh man!!! I'm really glad Prince ripped this back out of their hands and finished it right. Wouldn't have gone anywhere in this version. Prince always knew what he was doing, that's for sure. If I were Mazarati I'd be happy with my role in making this and leave it at that. Thanks for uploading though -I've always wondered what it sounded like before Prince took over.
johnnyribcage1 did you ever hear Dance Electric before Prince gave it to Andre Cymone? ... the finished product sounds like Cymone just recorded his voice on top of Prince's. 🤷
It was David Z's work that Prince kept. Here is his account -- www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss And Prince's original demo with melody, lyrics and basic song structure - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
This is a great piece by Duff McKagan (Guns & Roses) that speaks about that Purple magic, and the taking it to another level... www.seattleweekly.com/music/duff-mckagans-column-runs-every-thursday-on-reverb-his-sports-column-on-3/
having listened to the original one verse acoustic rough that Prince passed on to David Z, I would say David's engineered version with that high hat and guitar intersecting and the three note "ah ah ah" as a catch backing vocal is the bit that gets you hooked....musically. Prince's vocal styling took the song to certified "wow" status. Because it was all such unconventional but in some ways familiar soundscaping.
What I like about this demo is the emphasis on the handclaps and snare. They have some type of reverb going which would’ve sounded funky AF on Prince’s version.
I can't believe nobody here realized that Prince removed the bass line. When doves cry style! As everyone pointed out he also put his guitar and falsetto but the most important part is that he COMPOSED, PRODUCED AND ARRANGED the song! That's why his version is a major hit and mazarati's is a youtube video with 5000 views.
Leandro do you know what 'ARRANGED' means? The arrangement is Mazerati's. And I hope they got money for it. Look at it this way - if, a few years ago, you made a rough demo, and Prince took it and completely transformed the way it sounded, and you took it back and it was a huge hit - Prince would have been PAID, baby 🙂
No, it's because Prince took the track back before it was developed. This is a DEMO, not a finished version. You can't say with certainty what may or may not have happened with the track because it was never released as a finished Mazarati product. You're correct that Prince wrote the original track, but if you know anything about music you'd know that there are numerous songs songs that are taken from scratch ideas and fully developed for the artist all the way through that become hits for that artist alone. One could argue that Mazarati had the rug pulled out from them before they had a chance to truly make the song their "own." Prince wrote "The Glamorous Life" for Sheila E., BUT she's more well known for the performance of the track because Prince never took the song back.
Andy Dodds David Z 'arranged' and received credit. Prince further arranged, by stripping the song down to its funky bones and adding signature guitar and vocal elements. My guess is that this version would not have been a hit.
It seems a little slow in comparison with Prince's version. I agree on your guess. They gave Prince the idea, he worked it out brilliantly. They both deserve credit imho
First of all, this was a Prince song from the beginning. It's not plagiarism. This is a demo, Mazarati's version was never released. He knew this song had so much potential, and after he heard their demo, he, thank god, decided to take it back and make a huge hit of it.
Lots of comments about the vocal performance. Obviously it’s impossible not to compare this to Prince’s masterpiece version, BUT given the era and the style of Minneapolis Funk at the time I feel like this vocal performance fits right in with. That whole sexbot vibe. For reference, think about the vocals on any Vanity 6 song.
Cant believe people doggin Mazarati. Would've loved to of seen their success if they put it out. Prince is my idol, but wish he would've let his proteges more room to grow...
@@wisethirtyseven Prince provided melody, lyrics and basic song structure - here is his original demo: ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html Producer David Z provided the funky into and vocal background parts that Prince kept, and David received credit. Prince removed the bass, stripped down the song, adding signature guitar and falsetto. Here is David Z's account - www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss Prince took a huge risk because the record company did not want to release it - they didn't think it was good. Records are not made for free, and Mark & co. weren't on the hook to pay WB.
I heard ,There's a book by mark brown..... It revealed that he actually wrote kiss.. but who really knows.... Love em , and love ☁️💜☁️ prince.... Anyways....
Wrecking Crew was influenced by Prince too... When a girl answers (don't hang up), Vanity 6 (1982) ua-cam.com/video/LsMrCz_N8AQ/v-deo.html House Calls, Wrecking Crew (1987) ua-cam.com/video/uA8HIcKULxM/v-deo.html
It's the same basic recording plus bass guitar. Wiki: Prince decided to finish the song, retaining David Z's unique, funky rhythm and background vocal arrangements by Mazarati's Bruce DeShazer And Marvin Gunn (David Z recounts how the band had expected a song writing credit, and were "pissed" when it did not materialise);[9] he removed the bass line, and added signature guitar and falsetto vocal.
Though Prince made the music and gave it to this band, they arranged the vocals for it which, in my opinion as a songwriter, is the most difficult part . . . and which is probably what gave Prince the inspiration to take this song back. Like many other commenters on this clip, I'm am glad that Prince took this back, but it was kind of a douche bag move on his part.
No... Here is Prince's original demo with melody, lyrics and basic song structure - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html Producer David Z arranged background vocals, and provided the funky intro which Prince retained and gave him credit for. Here is David's account in Soundonsound - www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
It's easy to see what prince could see in this song with David z's work on top. This demo seems a bit flat, It just doesn't pop. Prince knew how to take it just that extra level and really make it shine
he did them a solid and left some of their vocals in the chorus, but prince's version is superior. performance wise and acoustically. He stripped the mix and made the remaining drums and instruments bang, while adding subtle instrumentation adds/changes
let ME clear this.... first off Brown Mark ( prince's bass player ) was manager of this band , he had them jammin' when prince came by to see him ,then he had a song in mind for them which was " KISS" , he did'nt like their version so he kept it for himself ...true story , READ his bio like I did !
That ain't the story I was told from the bassist of Maz. He personally told me otherwise when we met in a studio in Mpls in 1992 where he was hired as a studio musician. I'll take it from the horse's mouth before a book.
voodoo chile not quite right...I worked for Maz...Prince threw them a one off idea track and they tricked it into a good track, P heard the hit in what they did and took it back.
Been a Prince fan all of my life but when I read about the origins of this song and how it was 1st given to Mazarati and then taken back, I thought it was pretty f'd up... When I heard this version a while ago, I reversed my thought process and was glad he 'Princed it up'...
Ashfaq Aslam I used to have it on cassette(I know...used to...smh)it was the basic chords on acoustic guitar, prince voice ,the first verse, and the jinkajinkjinkjink part as basic as you can imagine. No cool licks or riffs. It actually sounded like a garage recording,
Here it is - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html Here also is producer David Z's account in Soundonsound - www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss Prince gave David credit because he retained some of his contributions that were significant to the released song.
@@RetroPillowcase As far as I know Prince wrote it, gave it to Mazarati, then decided to make it himself after hearing the demo version in this video. I don't know how true that is, but that was always the story I heard.
Well Prince provided melody, lyrics and basic song structure. Here is his original demo - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html David Z provided the creative elements that Prince retained on the final version, and he was credited. Here is his account: www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss This version is not a hit, it is forgettable tune that most wouldn't have listened to twice. Prince's original demo was enhanced, but then he removed bassline, added falsetto and signature guitar elements that created the hit.
Prince provided the original melody, lyrics and song structure. Here is his demo - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html Prince also kept some of producer David Z's contributions and gave him credit. Here is his account in Soundonsound - www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
@@rockssolid2543 "it's too good for you guys, I'm taking it back"... cringe :D But Prince's version is definitely the coolest and pply his most iconic song outside of "Purple Rain".
@@omgsolikevalleygirl Well you have his demo and this ho hum tune. I wouldn't have listened to it twice. Kiss a great hit, but Prince's catalogue is also like the garden of Eden. Take Condition of the Heart, for example... not a lot of public fanfare, but still utterly sublime - ua-cam.com/video/pp0L9ZC74Jk/v-deo.html Or Forever in my Life - ua-cam.com/video/X2DPhTYN2jM/v-deo.html Or Nothing Compares to You, or Adore, or When Doves Cry (his 1st bassless #1 hit), or I Feel for You (one of the biggest hits of Chaka Khan's career), or The Glamorous Life (the biggest hit of Sheila's career), and so on. Prince was a masterful songwriter period.
@@rockssolid2543 definitely - and it takes musicality in the listener to fully realize the true genius of the man - i don't really know anything comparable
He actually gave them the melody, lyrics and basic song structure. You can listen to it here: ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html . He also stripped of the bass, added signature guitar and vocal elements; creating a minimalist piece. He did keep David's intro and background vocal arrangement, and gave him credit as the contribution was artistically significant.
Brown Mark is inhibited by his own sense of inability to have succeeded as Prince. He is not aware of how that is so prevalent in all his conversations about Prince. Prince put him on the map and that bites. Kiss is an example. The song he worked on was written by Prince and he did some rearranging of the music. This version we are listening to now has no musicality or energy and is flat. The song never be No1. Prince took it back ( it was his) and brought it to life. His video was a winner with his energy and sass to Wendy, putting fun into the song. Sorry Mark but your attitude of being taken down by Prince sucks.
The lyrics are kind of clunky, but Prince had a way of singing around that by making the hops and pauses sound like funky breaks and doing these falsetto leaps where the scansion in the written verse is weak. Take the line "You don't have to watch 'Dynasty'/to have an attitude.' Here it's flatly delivered, and feels off, maybe because we can hear Prince accelerate and elevate the way he sings the line. Maybe there are a couple syllables too many in the line as written, but when Prince was singing it, who really noticed or cared?
Well the indian giver provided melody, lyrics, and basic song structure - here is his demo: ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html He also credited David Z for his contributions (funky intro, background vocal arrangement). Here is David's account: www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss The indian giver also had to pay the record company to put the song out, and you being one of 10 people who would listen to it more than once wouldn't have provided enough revenue.
It's a good thing Prince took this back because the Parade album desperately needed it. Besides this song, Mountains, and Life Can Be So Nice, the album flat out sucks.
Are you serious or you’re just saying that cause you want to be heard and different? I Wonder U? (should be longer) Anotherloverholenyohead? Girls & Boys? New Position? SISIA? The whole album is amazing from beginning to end, you have to clean your ears. 😂
@@theonlyone23576 Of course I'm serious. Are you serious or are you just praising it because you believe that Prince was a perfect godman that could do no wrong? Truth is the album got mixed reviews from critics back in 1986. It was only after Prince's death that they've reappraised the album. If one thing can be said for it, it's commendable that he attempted to experiment and try new things and not repeat himself. I don't think it works except on the aforementioned tracks in my first post. It gets off to a horrible start from the gitgo with Christoper Tracy's Parade. I don't think it works. It's my least favorite Prince album of the 1980s. But if you like it then listen up
@@jerviejervie2204 I never said he was or could do that, you’re projecting. Prince released a lot of hits & misses but Parade was not one of the misses. That 3 track sequence opening with CTP/NP/IWU already sold the album. Critics always say a bunch of BS, real music listeners knew what was up then and now.
Mark, if you are going to lie, you need to be a great liar because if you tell one, you will follow up with a thousand to cover your trail of lies. You are no good at it because other more reputable people speak the truth and that trips you up. I get so pissed when people knock Prince. He was kind and generous to those who he saw as good people. Think about that a bit!
Totally average compared to the Prince version. The core is present, but the pheonomenal rhythm of Prince's version is missing, minimalism is what makes Prince's version a piece of genius.
Great original version of the stellar Prince hit record. But in comparison to Princes exceptional, extravagant vocal delivery the voice sounds really straight and boring, almost sleepy....
You would be one of 10 people who thought so, and unfortunately that wouldn't be good enough to pay the record company back its studio time, etc. to release it. You may prefer Prince's original demo, which cost him nothing - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
The only reason this version sounds badly to most in the comments is because we know the more energetic Prince version. Hindsight is 20/20. Without the Prince version this would hit.
Prince also provided melody, lyrics and basic song structure - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html He retained David Z's creative input (funky intro), but stripped off the bass and added falsetto and signature guitar elements. Here is David's account - www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
Prince probably heard this version and was like "Oh hell naw, gimme that back"
He said it just like that too!!!
Just watched a different video explaining that, yeah, that's what happened. He just took out the base, added the guitar riff, and recorded the vocals an octave higher from his original acoustic demo this one was based on.
Yep.
Here is the answer ... ua-cam.com/video/zV_6Nxh32A0/v-deo.html&ab_channel=DiggingTheGreats
Original acoustic version of it’s by Prince who give it to the bass-man Brown from Mazarati. ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
I like Prince's version but I'm grateful somebody dug this up. I love seeing how these great hits started before it became a smash hit.
Prince saved this song by far!! Haters putting down a deceased icon!
Bunny Connell C’mon, anyone who arrived at the Mazarati version of this song is likely a pretty huge Prince fan. No hating, just appreciating both versions.
@@bunnyconnell1737 @Bunny Connell No! He gave this song away to his bass player. When said bass player made it way better than his shit acoustic version he "took" it back and screwed him out of millions. I Love Prince but to act like he wasn't a piece of shit is ridiculous.
@@jbones7552 that's a very simplistic take. Prince wrote a LOT of songs between 1980 & 1987, and if you've heard his original demo, you can hear why he didn't think much of it. But he also worked really fast, plus, he was a big picture kind of guy, so when he heard THIS version, he most likely also immediately heard inside his head the other elements that he later added to make the finished song. But since he DID work fast, he probably added his parts to it in a day or less, and when it was finished, he knew just where to fit it into his movie, more than anything else.
@@wisethirtyseven "just believing everything i hear on youtube".
Thank goodness Prince took the song back cuz his writing was already perfection and his falsetto vocals just made it perfection.
Prince never wrote it you dummy lol
😅... Where did this come from? Its been a while since I heard my lead Vocal Version of "KISS". It was an honor for Prince to take it back from us and make it a hit. Keep in mind all, I sang this at 5am, coming off a 18 hr. day with no sleep .😮
Peace Marvin? Can you explain and/or confirm or deny the story of the process of making this song? Did you cowrite the song? How did things go in the background once Prince took it back and took all the credit? How do you feel about the bass being taken out of the final version?
@@kentalks2818 well, there's an acoustic demo of prince singing the song in full, minus the production, of course. And it sounds like he kept some backing vocals of this demo.
@@felipegarcia487 the acoustic demo I found only had the first verse. Can you provide a link to the full acoustic demo please?
I'm curious to know more about Brown Mark's input on this sing and its production. Can you add any details?
Wow cool
Yeah, while Mazarati & Brownmark got this groove started, it DEFINITELY needed Prince's vocal performance & rhythm guitar to get all the way there! Prince's post-demo contributions took the song to all new heights!
Prince provided melody, lyrics and basic song structure. Here is his original demo - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
David Z's creative elements (funky intro) were retained and he got credit - here is his account in Soundonsound:
www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
Prince wrote the song and gave it to Mazarati and David Z. worked it out but Prince realized he wanted the song back and the rest is classic Prince. All depends on your taste. This version is decent but I prefer Prince.
U mean he gave it to Brown Mark who was producing their album at the time.....it was Brown Mark who reworked the instrumentals bc the original was acoustic and bluesy.
@@BigDee0903 Not according to David Z - www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
Prince provided melody, lyrics and basic song structure; and then finished off by stripping the song into a minimalist piece, adding signature guitar and vocal elements; and removing the bass.
This 90 percent of the final song. Prince kept Mazerati's backing vocals and instrumentation. Prince added the funy guitar part.
Prince version is way more crisp!! He cut the bassline, removed all the reverb from the drums but added reverb on the kick, remixed the drums (more dominant and loud) , added some magic delay/gate to the hihat, added funk /blues guitars, changed parts of the vocal melody and sang it in dry falsetto (few if any reverb) with a lot more energy, soul and conviction...
But the rest is the same!!
Prince knew what he was doing!!! :)
John PRTZ he didn't hear the potential of this track until he heard MAZ's trick....then he was like..."it is..My SONG" (that's a verbatim quote about it from the Peeps involved)
The original reference by Prince, prior to this version, was more jazzy... mazarati funked it up... prince took it back and worked on it w/ Tony Christian of Mazarati, the result was prince’s Kiss.
@@DOrrCS1Studios
Here is Prince's demo, with melody, basic song structure and lyrics-
ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
Here is David Z's account of Kiss-
www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
@@jadeangelica He liked the funky beat and background vocal arrangement that David Z came up with. David received credit on the final arrangement.
@@jadeangelica True..
Prince put life into the song!
Remember, this is just the demo..not the final lead vocal.
Mazerati put life into the song. Have you heard Prince's demo. "crickets" Probably why he gave it away.
It was his song originally he gave it to them and they spiced it up and he took it back 😂😂😂 but it’s a masterpiece all the same!!!! Listen to the acoustic version that is the original
@@2010Gullwing Agreed. Obviously Prince deserves the initial credit for writing the song but it sure seems like Mazerati (and whoever they were working with in the studio) brought it to life, which is why he then took it back
This record would have never been the hit it was without Prince's vocals LOL He has so much vocal
swag it's ridiculous! #Prince4Ever
The song would not have been a hit without Prince's melody, song structure, lyrics, and arrangement -- after Maz turned in a hum drum tune, Prince stripped off the bass and other non-essentials, added signature guitar and falsetto.
no they didn't "blow it"..
when prince heard what mazarati and david z did with his demo he liked it so much he kept it for himself..the idiots at warners didn't want to release this as a single but prince persisted. result?? US number 1 smash
chris tax i had always heard Prince didn't like the song Kiss. That he didn't want to include it on Parade but Warner Bros insisted on it. Prince had said he didn't like the song Kiss because it didn't mean anything and he felt it didn't go with anything that was on Parade.
Freddie Hankins that’s the first half of the original comment
@Tony this version was never released as a single
the lead singer's voice is really bad
I heard straight from Brown Mark's mouth on an interview with the Prince Podcast.....that Prince came to the studio at Paisley Park while he was producing Maserati album, with a demo of Kiss and gave it to him and asked what did he think about it, he then told Prince that he didn't like the song and thought it was crap bc it was an acoustic bluesy song along with a slow tempo and that he wanted more up-tempo dance songs on the album. Prince then told him that he could re-work the song and him and Maserati ended up with this version of Kiss. Brown Mark hands this version over to Prince and tells Prince that they were leaving for lunch. He then says that he comes back about 3 or 4 hours later and Prince reworked his instrumentals but it still basically Brown Mark version from the Maserati demo and he changed the vocals to also. Brown Mark tells Prince that he thought he had given them the song and Prince says naw I'll think I will keep it for myself, but promised him writing credits, according to Brown Mark, Prince told him "u know I'm going to take care of u". Well he didn't get co-writer's credit, producer's credit.....no royalties, nada. He went on to say that "that was the stick that broke the camel's back", and cause him to quit.
In the Prince Podcast interview, Mark Brown claims Prince flew him to Minni a year before he passed to look into his new project 3rdEyeGirl. This is completely false because Prince formed 3rdEyeGirl in 2012 and bassist Ida Nielsen had been playing with him since 2010. So Mark is lying. Here is Prince's original demo, with melody, lyrics and basic song structure - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
Prince gave the demo to producer David Z whose creative input (the funky intro) he retained on the finished song, and gave him credit. The only contribution of Brown's on the finished song are his background vocals.
Here is David Z's account in Soundonsound:
www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
@@rockssolid2543 No Brown also mentions David in a lot of interviews but Prince being the god he is in people's eyes, has done nothing wrong. The Time still can't use the name The Time, Girls & Boys had a lot of contribution from Brown but no one will believe because now Prince is dead and everyone is taking advantage of him. But there are evidence and witnesses who will testify and have testified all you gotta do is dig deep, listen to more interviews and you will know. Alan Leeds gives the best analysis of Prince's bullshit. But no one will believe because they all are wolves. I am still a fan of his funk but that doesn't prevent me from ignoring his wrongdoings.
@@gautamdevgun333
Ah okay, is that why Mark lied about Prince wanting him to join his new band 3rdEyeGirl in 2015? Because bassist Ida Nielson was with Prince from 2010 in the NPG and 3rdEyeGirl formed years prior.
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The Time was Prince -- he was even leasing (paying for) the name. Motown ended up calling Prince for songs because Brown wasn't cutting the mustard. And no self respecting pro musician would 'retire' after a few years in the game -- Mark retired in 1992. Prince's 40 year career speaks for itself.
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www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7348342/jimmy-jam-remembers-prince
Jimmy Jam:
"Prince was the principal songwriter for The Time. [Singer] Morris Day contributed a little, but Terry Lewis and I didn’t contribute much."
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My guess is that you probably don't work... this is why you don't understand the concept of working for a boss -- and Mark's boss was Prince -- he didn't even have a contract with Warner Bros.
Well, despite all that you have said, it seems everyone associated with him didn't deserve to be paid. I know Prince was responsible for The Time, but being nasty and not letting them use their original name is a sign of a highly insecure person. And as far as Mark's situation goes, he had personal demons that resulted in him retiring and working at a optic fiber cable company. If he had gotten his credit on Kiss, probably he won't have been broke. Everyone should do their duty and I am sorry to say Prince deprived a lot of people of their dues. This is the same shit that James Brown used to pull on his band mates. But an icon is never wrong. Why? Because he is simply an icon, and icons are not allowed to make mistakes or be nasty. Even if they do, they can do it because they have the power.
@@gautamdevgun333 The Time was Prince's intellectual property -- actually Warner Bros.' intellectual property. When we quit our jobs, we don't get to take the company's assets. Mind telling me how Brown was able to retire in 1992 if he wasn't getting paid? Most of us have to work until age 65... and in jobs a whole lot less funky. Mark left Prince in 1986 -- it is currently 2021. How do you pay your bills?
After years and years, I’m Hearing this version for the first time tonight. 🔥🔥🔥 That baseline is killer. Love the vocals too.
Obviously Prince’s version is the superior version, but this is no slouch and funky as hell.
Now just gotta hear the Prince OG acoustic version. Hope it’s posted sometime soon!
A snippet is on YT
Same song different take,but lets remember Prince gave them just a bare guitar track w/ lyrics while Mazz made it into their very own and for that Prince should have have at least gave them Co Writer Credits
wow, the main body of the song was entirely there already! thanks a lot for digging this, I had no idea Prince started from such a fully-formed version.
The drum machine doesn't seem having been touched a bit! It's nice Mazarati can get more credit for their songwriting skill on this great piece
Actually Prince wrote the song first just in acustic guitar. This version is how Maserati produced and arrengenged it. So Prince could finish it.
@@soaribb32 great to see we say the same. Thanks for confirming
Prince said hell nahhhh y'all fucked it up. Gimme my damn song back, y'all had one job.
I'm so glad that Prince took this song back because this song would have went nowhere had Mazarati kept it for their album and I love Mazarati by the way. The fact that Prince took this song back and put his falsetto on it was GENIUS.....
He provided Mazarati with the melody, basic song structure and lyrics. Then took this version and removed the bass line, added signature guitar elements and falsetto, and stripped out the fat, creating a unique, minimalist, funky piece. It was a hard sell to Warner, they thought his finished Kiss sounded like a demo, and how many #1s have no bass? Prince fought for it and won.
@@rockssolid7471 the song has a bass
they combined the bass and the kick drum together
@@rockssolid7471 when doves cry has no bass
Well in all fairness, the song was going nowhere before the rework by mazarati and David Z. The arrangement defines the song. To me, Mazarati and most likely David Z. MADE the hit. Prince sang it.
@@NicolasGodon idk about all that
It was at this moment when Mazarati became what could’ve been lol.
Oh man!!! I'm really glad Prince ripped this back out of their hands and finished it right. Wouldn't have gone anywhere in this version. Prince always knew what he was doing, that's for sure. If I were Mazarati I'd be happy with my role in making this and leave it at that. Thanks for uploading though -I've always wondered what it sounded like before Prince took over.
johnnyribcage1 did you ever hear Dance Electric before Prince gave it to Andre Cymone? ... the finished product sounds like Cymone just recorded his voice on top of Prince's. 🤷
@@mariahardy1201 Yes, another classic... the biggest hit of Andre's solo career.
It’s clear why prince took the song back. Made it a classic.
Mazarati's work was really really good
It was David Z's work that Prince kept. Here is his account -- www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
And Prince's original demo with melody, lyrics and basic song structure - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
Interesting, it just doesn't have that purple magic that took it to another level.
This is a great piece by Duff McKagan (Guns & Roses) that speaks about that Purple magic, and the taking it to another level...
www.seattleweekly.com/music/duff-mckagans-column-runs-every-thursday-on-reverb-his-sports-column-on-3/
having listened to the original one verse acoustic rough that Prince passed on to David Z, I would say David's engineered version with that high hat and guitar intersecting and the three note "ah ah ah" as a catch backing vocal is the bit that gets you hooked....musically. Prince's vocal styling took the song to certified "wow" status. Because it was all such unconventional but in some ways familiar soundscaping.
What I like about this demo is the emphasis on the handclaps and snare. They have some type of reverb going which would’ve sounded funky AF on Prince’s version.
It takes two to make a thing go right.
I can't believe nobody here realized that Prince removed the bass line. When doves cry style!
As everyone pointed out he also put his guitar and falsetto but the most important part is that he COMPOSED, PRODUCED AND ARRANGED the song! That's why his version is a major hit and mazarati's is a youtube video with 5000 views.
Leandro do you know what 'ARRANGED' means? The arrangement is Mazerati's. And I hope they got money for it.
Look at it this way - if, a few years ago, you made a rough demo, and Prince took it and completely transformed the way it sounded, and you took it back and it was a huge hit - Prince would have been PAID, baby 🙂
No, it's because Prince took the track back before it was developed. This is a DEMO, not a finished version. You can't say with certainty what may or may not have happened with the track because it was never released as a finished Mazarati product. You're correct that Prince wrote the original track, but if you know anything about music you'd know that there are numerous songs songs that are taken from scratch ideas and fully developed for the artist all the way through that become hits for that artist alone. One could argue that Mazarati had the rug pulled out from them before they had a chance to truly make the song their "own." Prince wrote "The Glamorous Life" for Sheila E., BUT she's more well known for the performance of the track because Prince never took the song back.
Andy Dodds David Z 'arranged' and received credit. Prince further arranged, by stripping the song down to its funky bones and adding signature guitar and vocal elements. My guess is that this version would not have been a hit.
It seems a little slow in comparison with Prince's version. I agree on your guess. They gave Prince the idea, he worked it out brilliantly. They both deserve credit imho
@@swirlingfudge Yes, I do. Do you? Because the guitar, voice and bass removal is part of the arrangement as well.
First of all, this was a Prince song from the beginning. It's not plagiarism. This is a demo, Mazarati's version was never released. He knew this song had so much potential, and after he heard their demo, he, thank god, decided to take it back and make a huge hit of it.
Lots of comments about the vocal performance. Obviously it’s impossible not to compare this to Prince’s masterpiece version, BUT given the era and the style of Minneapolis Funk at the time I feel like this vocal performance fits right in with. That whole sexbot vibe. For reference, think about the vocals on any Vanity 6 song.
Cant believe people doggin Mazarati. Would've loved to of seen their success if they put it out. Prince is my idol, but wish he would've let his proteges more room to grow...
THANK YOU! I love Prince too, but I cannot believe how much people are frontin on Mazarati’s contribution to the track.
@@wisethirtyseven Prince provided melody, lyrics and basic song structure - here is his original demo: ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
Producer David Z provided the funky into and vocal background parts that Prince kept, and David received credit. Prince removed the bass, stripped down the song, adding signature guitar and falsetto. Here is David Z's account - www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
Prince took a huge risk because the record company did not want to release it - they didn't think it was good. Records are not made for free, and Mark & co. weren't on the hook to pay WB.
This is good but I love prince
version more
I heard ,There's a book by mark brown..... It revealed that he actually wrote kiss.. but who really knows.... Love em , and love ☁️💜☁️ prince.... Anyways....
That photo reminds me of Dr. Dre when he was in the World Class Wrecking Cru.
LOOOOOL :-)
Hey, it was the 80s...lol 😎
Wrecking Crew was influenced by Prince too...
When a girl answers (don't hang up), Vanity 6 (1982)
ua-cam.com/video/LsMrCz_N8AQ/v-deo.html
House Calls, Wrecking Crew (1987)
ua-cam.com/video/uA8HIcKULxM/v-deo.html
Looooooool
Yo. I’m glad prince took this and fixed it. This is like cornflakes without the milk.
I wish they would come back I was a big fan
Guys it ain’t bad but Prince definitely made it so much better
It's interesting to hear the original version of one of Prince's best songs, "Kiss".
This isn’t the original version, this is the second version. Prince made an acoustic version at first
wow. dumb
They sound sleepy
Uhhhhhh, Neva heard, blessed be the fuckin net
When Kiss cane out. You liked it the first time you heard it . U never know. I think if this dropped first. It would've been a hit
l liked this version also
It's the same basic recording plus bass guitar.
Wiki: Prince decided to finish the song, retaining David Z's unique, funky rhythm and background vocal arrangements by Mazarati's Bruce DeShazer And Marvin Gunn (David Z recounts how the band had expected a song writing credit, and were "pissed" when it did not materialise);[9] he removed the bass line, and added signature guitar and falsetto vocal.
Though Prince made the music and gave it to this band, they arranged the vocals for it which, in my opinion as a songwriter, is the most difficult part . . . and which is probably what gave Prince the inspiration to take this song back. Like many other commenters on this clip, I'm am glad that Prince took this back, but it was kind of a douche bag move on his part.
How? If I write the lyrics, I’m the song writer lol period.
No... Here is Prince's original demo with melody, lyrics and basic song structure - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
Producer David Z arranged background vocals, and provided the funky intro which Prince retained and gave him credit for. Here is David's account in Soundonsound - www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
It's easy to see what prince could see in this song with David z's work on top. This demo seems a bit flat, It just doesn't pop. Prince knew how to take it just that extra level and really make it shine
They doing the background. vocals on prince kiss verison
this song just proves Prince genius!!!!
That bass... F u n k!🔥⚡
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he did them a solid and left some of their vocals in the chorus, but prince's version is superior. performance wise and acoustically. He stripped the mix and made the remaining drums and instruments bang, while adding subtle instrumentation adds/changes
This shows how some artists can creat a classic instead of just a good song. Like the bass though.
let ME clear this.... first off Brown Mark ( prince's bass player ) was manager of this band , he had them jammin' when prince came by to see him ,then he had a song in mind for them which was " KISS" , he did'nt like their version so he kept it for himself ...true story , READ his bio like I did !
That ain't the story I was told from the bassist of Maz. He personally told me otherwise when we met in a studio in Mpls in 1992 where he was hired as a studio musician. I'll take it from the horse's mouth before a book.
voodoo chile not quite right...I worked for Maz...Prince threw them a one off idea track and they tricked it into a good track,
P heard the hit in what they did and took it back.
Excellent! Smash Hit!
Don't 4get BrownMark
Kiss was like a Prince pass...Mazerati alley-oop and Prince slam dunk 😂.
did prince write this WHOLE song or just the first verse and chorus he did in the demo for them? Otherwise they filled out the rest of the song.
Been a Prince fan all of my life but when I read about the origins of this song and how it was 1st given to Mazarati and then taken back, I thought it was pretty f'd up... When I heard this version a while ago, I reversed my thought process and was glad he 'Princed it up'...
Mark was... 60% there. Prince it to 110%! It needed what Prince gave it, for sure. Glad Prince finished it, actually.
Still a great version 🙂
Thank you neil
I would just like to hear the original version before masarati
Ashfaq Aslam I used to have it on cassette(I know...used to...smh)it was the basic chords on acoustic guitar, prince voice ,the first verse, and the jinkajinkjinkjink part as basic as you can imagine. No cool licks or riffs. It actually sounded like a garage recording,
@@jadeangelica I thought it was tingalingaling
Here it is - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
Here also is producer David Z's account in Soundonsound - www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
Prince gave David credit because he retained some of his contributions that were significant to the released song.
I don't get it.. whi created the lyrics who composed the music? Anyone knows the official answer? Please?
Prince gave them 100 MPH, the rest of the album was written by "Brown Mark"
Prince took a forgettable but funky '80s dance song and turned into an all-time classic.
Apparently this wasn’t even released
@@RetroPillowcase As far as I know Prince wrote it, gave it to Mazarati, then decided to make it himself after hearing the demo version in this video. I don't know how true that is, but that was always the story I heard.
Very nice.
Keyiss 💋
Digging the Crates brought me here
_Poppin Taco entered the chat_
Kiss is SSick backwarzzzzz..!
Missing the signature guitar hook, the “I think i wanna dance” guitar solo and lack’s the energy, of the Prince version, but it’s mostly al there.
Well Prince provided melody, lyrics and basic song structure. Here is his original demo - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
David Z provided the creative elements that Prince retained on the final version, and he was credited. Here is his account:
www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
This version is not a hit, it is forgettable tune that most wouldn't have listened to twice. Prince's original demo was enhanced, but then he removed bassline, added falsetto and signature guitar elements that created the hit.
Neilcic brought me here.
it's Been Said That Brown Mark Wrote This instead of Prince
Sounds an emo/depressed person singing this. But, so cool to learn this fact about the song-Cool band!
This band could have been huge
also a cool version, but I can see how Prince's vocal flexibility would add that "second coming" kind of oups to it
Prince provided the original melody, lyrics and song structure. Here is his demo - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
Prince also kept some of producer David Z's contributions and gave him credit. Here is his account in Soundonsound - www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
@@rockssolid2543 "it's too good for you guys, I'm taking it back"... cringe :D But Prince's version is definitely the coolest and pply his most iconic song outside of "Purple Rain".
@@omgsolikevalleygirl Well you have his demo and this ho hum tune. I wouldn't have listened to it twice. Kiss a great hit, but Prince's catalogue is also like the garden of Eden.
Take Condition of the Heart, for example... not a lot of public fanfare, but still utterly sublime - ua-cam.com/video/pp0L9ZC74Jk/v-deo.html
Or Forever in my Life - ua-cam.com/video/X2DPhTYN2jM/v-deo.html
Or Nothing Compares to You, or Adore, or When Doves Cry (his 1st bassless #1 hit), or I Feel for You (one of the biggest hits of Chaka Khan's career), or The Glamorous Life (the biggest hit of Sheila's career), and so on.
Prince was a masterful songwriter period.
@@rockssolid2543 definitely - and it takes musicality in the listener to fully realize the true genius of the man - i don't really know anything comparable
"And Mickey Free is not a girl, right?" 😂🥰
good :)
Who are these chicks?
This should have only been brought out at functions.The picture and negative shoulda been burned
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this version is better with da bass☺
Prince probly had the entire arrangement in his head before he gave it to them
He actually gave them the melody, lyrics and basic song structure. You can listen to it here:
ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
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He also stripped of the bass, added signature guitar and vocal elements; creating a minimalist piece. He did keep David's intro and background vocal arrangement, and gave him credit as the contribution was artistically significant.
They got shafted. Love Prince but he kinda robbed them.
Naw the the was supposed to take that back
These bass sounds early 80s too old for 1986..but kiss is a good song in both forms
Brown Mark is inhibited by his own sense of inability to have succeeded as Prince. He is not aware of how that is so prevalent in all his conversations about Prince. Prince put him on the map and that bites. Kiss is an example. The song he worked on was written by Prince and he did some rearranging of the music. This version we are listening to now has no musicality or energy and is flat. The song never be No1. Prince took it back ( it was his) and brought it to life. His video was a winner with his energy and sass to Wendy, putting fun into the song. Sorry Mark but your attitude of being taken down by Prince sucks.
Me too like princes better that high. Voice get me I like beat though
Now I see why Prince took the song back. The lead vocals are too “stiff.” Prince’s vocals are more fluid and soulful.
The lyrics are kind of clunky, but Prince had a way of singing around that by making the hops and pauses sound like funky breaks and doing these falsetto leaps where the scansion in the written verse is weak.
Take the line "You don't have to watch 'Dynasty'/to have an attitude.' Here it's flatly delivered, and feels off, maybe because we can hear Prince accelerate and elevate the way he sings the line. Maybe there are a couple syllables too many in the line as written, but when Prince was singing it, who really noticed or cared?
Sounds like Lenny Kravitz...sorta
Yeah, he does...a little LOL
This was a great song, even before the Indian Giver took it back.
Well the indian giver provided melody, lyrics, and basic song structure - here is his demo: ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
He also credited David Z for his contributions (funky intro, background vocal arrangement). Here is David's account: www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
The indian giver also had to pay the record company to put the song out, and you being one of 10 people who would listen to it more than once wouldn't have provided enough revenue.
Best fuckin version
It's a good thing Prince took this back because the Parade album desperately needed it. Besides this song, Mountains, and Life Can Be So Nice, the album flat out sucks.
It’s my favorite Prince album 😭
New Position is so funky 😭
Are you serious or you’re just saying that cause you want to be heard and different? I Wonder U? (should be longer) Anotherloverholenyohead? Girls & Boys? New Position? SISIA? The whole album is amazing from beginning to end, you have to clean your ears. 😂
@@theonlyone23576 Of course I'm serious. Are you serious or are you just praising it because you believe that Prince was a perfect godman that could do no wrong? Truth is the album got mixed reviews from critics back in 1986. It was only after Prince's death that they've reappraised the album. If one thing can be said for it, it's commendable that he attempted to experiment and try new things and not repeat himself. I don't think it works except on the aforementioned tracks in my first post. It gets off to a horrible start from the gitgo with Christoper Tracy's Parade. I don't think it works. It's my least favorite Prince album of the 1980s. But if you like it then listen up
@@jerviejervie2204 I never said he was or could do that, you’re projecting. Prince released a lot of hits & misses but Parade was not one of the misses. That 3 track sequence opening with CTP/NP/IWU already sold the album. Critics always say a bunch of BS, real music listeners knew what was up then and now.
I like Prince version better - no disrespect or sarcasm intended.
Come on this is not bad - just not Prince's voice
Mark, if you are going to lie, you need to be a great liar because if you tell one, you will follow up with a thousand to cover your trail of lies. You are no good at it because other more reputable people speak the truth and that trips you up. I get so pissed when people knock Prince. He was kind and generous to those who he saw as good people. Think about that a bit!
If you're interested in hearing some in-depth background on this version check out this video
ua-cam.com/video/zV_6Nxh32A0/v-deo.html
Totally average compared to the Prince version. The core is present, but the pheonomenal rhythm of Prince's version is missing, minimalism is what makes Prince's version a piece of genius.
Nope. It's still incredible
Great original version of the stellar Prince hit record. But in comparison to Princes exceptional, extravagant vocal delivery the voice sounds really straight and boring, almost sleepy....
No
Sounds so much better without the falsetto.
You would be one of 10 people who thought so, and unfortunately that wouldn't be good enough to pay the record company back its studio time, etc. to release it. You may prefer Prince's original demo, which cost him nothing - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
The only reason this version sounds badly to most in the comments is because we know the more energetic Prince version. Hindsight is 20/20. Without the Prince version this would hit.
Prince version is 1000 percent better. Sorry.
Terrible
No wonder prince took it back. This version is lame as hell compared to his.
Prince also provided melody, lyrics and basic song structure - ua-cam.com/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/v-deo.html
He retained David Z's creative input (funky intro), but stripped off the bass and added falsetto and signature guitar elements. Here is David's account - www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss