Walmart Supertech ST6607 Oil Filter Cut Open, Used Walmart Supertech ST6607 Oil Filter Cut Open
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- Oil Filter Inspection. #Mobil #Motorcraft #Supertech #Wix #Fram
Today we'll open up a used Supertech ST6607 oil filter that came off of a 2020 Honda Pilot.
Supertech ST6607 oil filter: www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Tech...
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9k on that filter is a bit much...imo 5k max too be on a safe side.
Yeah maybe, not that i would buy it but i'd go 3-3500k.
It’s built better than the junky OE filters from Honda and Toyota that people are running 10k miles. An OE Honda or Toyota filter went from being the best quality filter that you could put on your vehicle to absolute overpriced garbage.
@@prevost8686 The Toyota filters are pretty crummy, but they are only like $6 at the dealership I go to. Once my warranty expires I will probably start using SuperTech filters. I think they are great for 5k intervals.
@@josephstarnes8747 I worked for Toyota for a long time beginning in the mid eighties and their maintenance parts like filters were so much better than anything else made by anybody but beginning in the mid nineties they decided that they were going to have to compete with the Iffy Lubes and the way to do it was cut out quality parts and replace them with junk equivalent to what the fast lubes were selling. They even forced technicians to do oil changes for free to compete with the Iffy Lubes. That’s when the great exodus of Toyota and Honda dealer technicians began. Most of the good ones like me went to independent shops or started their own shops.
@@prevost8686They're Fram?
Using supertech oil and filters for years. No problems at all. Retired diyer fixed income. All about saving money especially inCT
I am impressed by that economy filter. I see many filters that show very little or no sludge/ carbon on the media. Possibly due to frequency of oil changes, but this filter was working and doing its intended job. I’m not a fan of the bypass valve, and I agree with many others that more frequent oil changes are a good idea.
I can't remember a filter review here that had media that black. Maybe I missed one. I wouldn't run the oil and filter that long.
It’s good to have a video on a filter that has been taken to nearly its design max interval. I think this one should go no further than 10k based upon your microscope inspection.
Leaf spring flattened out likely because the filter is plugged from using it for 9,000mi.
You could be right
I liked everything about that filter except for the bypass valve. I don't like how they stick it in the leaf spring. But it is well made and looks like it did its job as intended. The nitrile adbv is not a deal breaker though I do prefer silicone. The bypass valve is just cheap and has potential to not sealing well. I would suggest a shorter maintenance interval though.
Great video as always.
Hope everyone has a great week.
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It’s a Decent less Expensive Oil Filter. I would only go 3k at most on that little filter but that’s just me. Thank you Pete!
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I use this filter on my Subaru 2012 and I am very happy for the price you can't beat it 💯
Great video as always! I think that oil change interval needs to get dialed back to about 5000 miles. For the price those look like good filters, but even a good filter has limits.
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Thanks. Looked like that puppy got a work out. But it did seem to hold up.
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I don't want to be mean by saying no one should go 9,000 miles, but I will say it is good it was sent for him to inspect because most people don't go that far to have their filters inspected to see how well they hold out
Nice to see a (champ lab) filter with 9,000 miles on it. I would say the filter did a very good job of filtering the oil. Another shout out to the Kirkland oil as well. The inside of the can was clean after a good long run due to good oil and a good filter. Like you say, I would not push things any further the the 9000 miles.
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Wasn't that nice Ken stuck a paper towel so oil didn't leak all over the place? I love Honda Pilots! Ken, needs to change every 5,000 miles. Oil too sooty for such low mileage on engine. I'd even get a better filter. Just my opinion.👍
ST is Walmart Private label. The filters are made by Champion Laboratories Inc.
Wow, that filter looks clogged. I love these videos. They show exactly what happens to filters at certain mileage and usage.
I'll start by saying, Ken may or may not know the shorty 6607 is not the Honda spec size filter, the ~.75" longer 7317 is. That said, many quick lube places and lower tier filter listings consolidate to the shorty used here. Also, the 3.5L Honda Pilot/Ridgeline filter is in a terrible location. Right above a control arm/cross member. So tight, can't even use a fitted cap wrench. "Maybe" because 6607 shorter, cap wrench might work, idk. While 9k miles seems like a lot, being done in 4 months I'm going to speculate much of that highway 'type' driving at engine operating temps which would be easiest on oil. Ken also likely paid some attention to the dash MM OLM read out which shows oil % life left. I might shorten the oci a bit, but that's for Ken to consider. As you can see, these ST ecores are no media area leaders, skimpy. The wide nylon core makes for a deceptive look. I would likely use a better higher tier filter. Seems WM has discontinued the Super Tech MP series ecore with silicone adbv. Kirkland , ST Syn, Amazon Basics, all the same. Good oil. Long comment, but I have some knowledge about the 3.5L Honda engine. Thanks for the video.
You're Welcome faxmen09, Thanks for Sharing that info👍💯
@@WhipCityWrencher You're welcome too. Have a great day.
@@faxmen09 Thank You, have a great day also😊
I was thinking the same ST7317 is correct filter for j35 and many other Honda's. 6607 is mini
@@Sw-so4zj Yes as noted technically the 7317/14610/57356 is the spec size. Having followed, owned and maintained Hondas since 1996. I'm not aware of any Honda vehicle that specs the topic shorty. In~2001 majority Hondas switched to 7317 from the wider but shorter 9688. All that said, many quick lubes and low tier filter look ups (like white ST) do consolidate the 7317 to the 6607. The current Honda OEM A02 is 7317 size.
They put on the wrong sized oil filter for that 2020 Honda Pilot. Should be the ST7317, a bigger oil filter, and the correct one for that application.
The 6607 used here is a "shorty" version of the 7317 (Fram's part number system, so a TG7317 or XG7317 is the right one). A shorter, smaller one like that resulted in more bypass events on cold starts, high rev transients, you know. A;lso, the higher mass flux on the smaller one is worse filtering performance.
At some point in the past few months, Walmart switched from showing the ST7313/MP7313 as the correct filter for these engines to instead showing the ST6607/MP6607. I'm not sure on why that is exactly, especially since they ALSO recommend the Mobil 1 M1-110A, for which the MP7313 is the direct replacement, but the 6607 replace the M1-108A. Very strange! I imagine that this person is just using the data that Walmart gave them - but I don't even know why Walmart is doing that. I continue to use the MP7313 on my three Hondas but Walmart states that the MP6607 is the correct filter.
Looks good enough for my standards.
Did good ! Proof you dont have to spend a fortune on an oil change ! One thing tho is i would change it out alot sooner ! Like 5k to 6k ! It will be just fine ! 👍
9k miles on that filter seems pretty extreme. That's crazy. If I were to actually push my oil changes that far I would use something more reputable like the Purolator Boss, Fram Ultra synthetic or Fram Endurance filters.
I agree with you 100%
Most vehicles built since ~2010 have 7,500 to 10,000 mile oil change intervals, including this 2020 Honda. It's been standard for quite a while now.
@@donwyoming1936 yes, I know. I still don't push them that far. 7k max for me. Also I was talking about putting that amount of miles on that junk filter, not the vehicle itself.
Another Champ filter! Add it to the list of champ made filters (AC Delco, Valvoline)
Yeah, that oil was too dark. Why chance it? Although because of the winter months, I have stretched out changes even a little further, but I use the 20,000 mile Mobile One to hedge my bet.
Every time that I buy an oil filter for my 2011 Civic [218,000 miles] I have angst over getting a lousy one and saving money, or a better one and waste money.
Two days ago I bought a cheap filter opener, and yesterday I cut a Supertech MP-7317 which cross-references to the original Honda Filter, but is listed on Walmart's site as not fitting. Even on the filter itself it states it's the same as 3 other filters that fit the Honda.
The filter is $5.97 and just an inch longer. It was built exactly the same [metal end caps] with 100 square inches of filter media.
If you have the room to fit a longer filter, I feel that this would be worth the extra $2 or $80 over 10 years.
65mmx993mm=64544sqmm = 100 Sq.inches 02/21 USA
Thank for Sharing👍
Thanks for that information. I used the ST6607 because of the tight confines where the filter is located, and it's what Walmart said fit. We are a Honda family and this filter fits 3 of our cars, so we bought a case of them. I'm definitely going to disregard the Maintenance Minder and change the oil and filter more often from now on! I definitely will try the MP-7317 on my Ridgeline next oil change, since by then I'll have used my last ST-6607 from that case.
Honda oem filters are not good fyi. Look up videos of them, dream type with felt end caps. Not sure about the ones for newer cars but my 2012 accord oem ones are. Although, I went to Honda for most of the oil changes and at 180 it runs like new. 5000k mile oil Changes fyi
I am still up in 0regon. My bear and son pocket knife has a little blade that dulls on paper! Finally gave up. No cutting filters with that one lol! Time to give up on that 50.00 knife.
You have to be very careful with the marketing when it says full synthetic.
You have to look for 100% synthetic. Great video whip. 👍🏼 🇨🇦
You're Welcome 404, and Thanks for sharing👍
Great video WhipCityWrencher, thank you 🔧
Thank You WrenchingMafia👍
Good video Pete. I like the cage for flow but they went to far on this change. 😮 too much black on the media.
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I wouldn't go 9,000mi in between oil changes on my vehicles, especially a newer, fuel diluting GDI engine such as the one in this Honda. Would love to see an analysis on this oil. 😳 I'm guessing it wouldn't look too good. Oil and filters are cheap in the grand scheme of things!
Very nice sharing Pete, great review and sharing. Take care my friend. Merri :)
Thanks Merri,
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Great video. The filter look good except the bypass valve.
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It seems most guys are stuck in the 1970s. Oil change intervals have been 7,500 to 10,000 miles for 15 years now. Manufacturers know you're going to get the cheapest oil change at Wal-Mart & Jiffy lube. The oil is perfectly capable of going 10k. The filters are as well.
Some engines have fuel dilution problems, so it's not a one size fits all, but I like the 5K OCI's
I respectfully disagree when it comes to the modern GDI engines. They are notorious for diluting the oil with fuel. My '22 Subaru, that I've owned since new is a prime example. Factory recommended oil change is 6,000mi. I do oil analysis every oil change and at 3000 mi, my oil contains 4% fuel! No way I would go 6000mi or more. I change at 3000mi. Oil is cheap in the grand scheme of things. I could see doing longer OCIs with a port injected engine as they are not known for diluting the oil with fuel like the modern GDI engines. Some manufacturers are worse than others. Oil analysis will tell you how far is safe to stretch the OCIs. To each his own though. Not my vehicle...😎
What is best for an engine doesn't depend on what the EPA wants. Yet motors call for 5w20 instead of 5w30. Crackpots don't want people to change the oil so much because they think it is bad for the environment. They also don't want people driving or running old cars. The manufacturers just want those people off their back. Common sense says cleaner, newer oil wears the engine less, period.
One drop of fuel will make the oil smell. Fuel dilution is totally overblown. Even port injection will cause a little fuel dilution. An oil filter shouldn’t get dirty at all if the air filter is working properly and the engine is clean inside.
Nice vid, bro! It was cool to see a filter with some serious miles on it. I think 9k is really pushing it though. Ken should consider doing the next change earlier, maybe 7k or so. It would be a real treat if he could send you the next filter for comparison.
Agreed!
Just a suggestion I've seen others used the filter opener by placing the actual filter in a vise then spinning the opener. Being more stable might cut down on the paint/metal shavings Other than that GREAT CONTENT!
i know that filter says 10k I wouldn't go past 7k on it. I bet that leaf spring was bent because filter was clogged and it was using the bi-pass valve. been using the st6607 for 5 years on multi cars. no issues. but the other 2 cars the oil change duration was 3-4k with 10-30 or 5-20. on the 3rd car just moved to st6607 and its oil change every 7k miles. and 0w20
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Great review, thanks!
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Thank for the video.
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THANK YOU! I always wondered that.
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Oh yea, whip it Skip!😉
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That filter has been maxed out for quite a while. It's putting dirt back into the engine. Cheap filter like this one should barely go 3k. Only filtering 30 microns, it's letting the 20-30 micron particles past, that would normally be caught by a better filter. Between the lower quality filter and going too far in the service interval, this engine is wearing out fast and is filthy inside. When I change my oil in my 2022 Honda Civic at 3k with a full synthetic filter, My oil comes out still looking gold which means it's trapping all of the dirt. There's no dirt going back into my engine after it hits the filter. Unlike this filter, which is throwing dirt back at the engine because It's been full for a while. The oil might go longer than three or 4,000 mi, but the filters can't hold any more dirt.
You could change that filter 3times during the oil change interval and still be cheaper than the Mobil 1 filter
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I don't think the seal between the leaf spring and the end cap would pass the flashlight test. Those little nubs on the leaf spring will cause a gap for unfiltered oil to bypass the filter media. It's a shame that it uses this design, as otherwise it is essentially a re-branded PurolatorOne or Mobil 1, but at a much lower price.
That's a lot of miles for 4 months. I can understand wanting to go cheap if you're changing it that often, but they obviously heavily rely on that vehicle so a few extra bucks a year on better filters might add some dependability.
An oversize filter might help some.
The rumor mill says Wix might be involved in making these, which to me, is a win.
I've never heard of that , Thanks
The element looks blocked.
Media is darker than my ex’s heart. May need to change it a little more often.
What, no flashlight check to see if those "louvers" were open? 😉
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I can only imagine the amount of piston and ring wear that is taking place with a filthy filter like that.
The filters for those engines are so small. It seems odd that a normal V6 would have just about the smallest oil filter available.
They used the wrong oil filter. It is supposed to use the 40% larger ST7317 (or Fram XG7317).
@@softwaresignals The factory Honda filter for a Pilot is just as small.
@@wheel1775 Ford does that too at factories. A smaller oil filter on a new clean engine is OK. They do that to save pennies, but mostly to avoid mishaps during engine install where it sticks out too far and gets knocked off. My '24 Honda CR-V had a full-sized ST7317-equivalent on it so I guess they did not need to worry about it getting whacked.
I bet the filter would look a lot better if they disabled VCM on that Honda Pilot.
I use the MP7313 filters on my Hondas. At some point recently, Walmart stopped recommending them and tells you to use the ST/MP6607 now. The price on MP versions has also doubled or more in the past few months so I'm looking at different filter options. I use the MP line but change oil at 5 to 6k intervals.
I agree, I would turn the VCM off. The engine would probably last longer too. Turning cylinders on and off doesn't seem like it's a good idea.
If you have the room, I would pick the 7317 over the 6607. Thanks for Sharing👍
@@WhipCityWrencherThanks for the reply! I purchased a VCM Tuner II for my 2011 Honda Odyssey. I got tired of dealing with the fouled spark plugs on the rear (left) cylinders. Thankfully I never had the oil burning issues but I know the VCM Tuner will ensure that never happens, either. No issues since the install and the "fuel savings" are minimal at best compared to an engine replacement. I will continue to use the MP7313 - walmart says 6607 now but also recommends the Mobil 1 M110A, which is the 7313 equivalent. You should tell Ken to grab a VCM Tuner - VERY easy install! - and different filters for his Pilot!
@@brassmule Okay I'll let him know. Thanks!👍
By now you've probably had a couple filter cutters for the job. What is your favorite? I might try to get one to inspect my own stuff.
I still have the same one, I bought a cutting wheel for it once on eBay though. Here's a link to the one I use. $28.99 + Shipping, www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Engine-Motor-Oil-Filter-Cutter-Tool,2618.html?CSEGoogle&CSE&CSEGOOGLE&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAloavBhBOEiwAbtAJOyMPhVP1l2tr4I1vxwZ8LcddH8SzEFxJr1GGizLbCM9ibZP_KPr7eRoCTjcQAvD_BwE
Yeah they shouldn't go that long in that particular filter. I bet you that filter was on bypass for the last couple of thousand miles or so. Might have been flatten out. The spring
on 5/4/2024 I have a vid where I open up a used ppg4612 precision Parts branded. its supposed to be equivalent to the st6607 and fram 6607. OEM part is 15400-PLM-A02 (Honda). oddly enough the ppg4612 is what the dealer used for my oil change and *NOT* the OEM part. When I opened it up it looked good, just wish I knew the micron ratting for it. I haven't been able to find it. I am assuming its just like the pg4612 (premium guard 5k filter , 96% eff at 20 microns). I would of expected the dealer to use OEM filter or at least a filter that would cover the oil change duration of apx 7k miles.
Are you saying a "Honda dealer" didn't use a Honda OEM oil filter? Or, some other vehicle dealer? If the former, not much of a Honda dealer, and I'd be pissed. Not because the A02 is such a great filter, it's not. Efficiency not very good. But a Honda dealer should use Honda OEM parts. And to top is off, they didn't even use the longer spec 7317 size. No bueno☹
Take mileage ratings with a grain of salt. I usually take what they say and divide it in half!
I question the Costco oil..... way to much carbon for a car with 70k......
Yeah 9k would be too much for my machine you probably could use it to see a eclipse with no problem nice video
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I just don't like ANY filter that has a metal to metal contact between the base plate and the bypass valve/spring. It just invites leakage of dirty oil. And I don't have a lot of confidence in the seal of that plastic valve. And that leaf spring doesn't inspire a lot confidence.
I love your channel! I know this is a dumb question, but can you tell me what the BYPASS valve in an oil filter is for? Thank you in advance and also thank you for the great videos and information.
In the cases that either 1) the filter media becomes clogged due to excessive use and oil flow into the engine is impeded or 2) the temperature is so low that the very cold thick oil can't pass through the filter media quickly enough so that the engine is starved for oil, the bypass valve opens to allow unfiltered oil to reach the engine.
Steven gave you a good explanation.😊👍
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What do you use to cut the endcaps from the filter element? Watching you & your videos makes me want to do this to my filters. Later I'm going to ask how you get the magnified views (for my engines' sakes). Let me know those details when you have the time.
Here's a video I made of how I cut them open, ua-cam.com/video/2jOIFBsqGHI/v-deo.html
Here's a video on how I squeeze them out, ua-cam.com/video/Ph0E9flmKuY/v-deo.html
Here's the Microscope I use, I take the Microscope media pics with my phone, www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZPNCQR5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Where do we send our oil filters to you to review them?
Send me an email to, Poker4me007@gmail.com
Change oil every 5k miles.
If I wanted to send you a filter where would I get the shipping info? I don't do Facebook if the info is there.
Sure, send me an email to, Poker4me007@gmail.com
Have they discontinued the blue Super Tech filters ?
Yes, from what I heard they stopped making the MP version.
Can anyone recommend an oil filter for honda crv 2024 lx? i looked around. im considering getting these supertech, valvoline, and oem honda filter
9,000 miles on an undersized conventional 6607??? As Marlon Brando said in Apocalypse Now: "The horror!!"
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He got wrong size filter on that honda. 7317 is the correct one. 6607 is much smaller than that.
I thought so too,
but Ken told me that the oil filter book at Walmart listed that size as the one for his vehicle.
True, and the 7317 is 40% bigger than the 6607. Honda and others use the 6607 when there are space limitations in the engine bay.
@@WhipCityWrencher Yeah, WM oil filter look up consolidates and downsizes to the 6607. IDK if there even is an ST7317, might explain it too. But, the OP here is correct.
@@faxmen09 I don't think there is an ST7317 either, just an MP7317
@@WhipCityWrencher Sounds right which would explain 6607 use here. Unfortunately, seems MP series now history at WM.
Using that lower quality of a filter and pushing it to 9000 miles is not something i would do
Will never know but at what mileage did that media reach it's useful filtering life, early on the way to 9, maybe midway at 6-7-8 thousand? To chancy for me.
That filter is so tiny.
Soot? 9000 miles you mean sludge.
that iz 1 of the worst/dirtiest looking filters i've ever seen... checking in2 sending u an AMSOIL filter f/my JD 42 in. w/Kawasaki 17 hp...
The oil did the job well as syntetic .it is in deed the quality filtering fabric this Supertech was made. Poor quality meterilas. Perhaps it is made out of mixure of scrapped recycles. Not a cup of tea to me. Would rather to use OEM or Wix . Personally wouldn't recommend it!
The OEM filter uses fiber end caps, which I will NEVER knowingly use on anything! Not only that they cost more, and I don't like paying more to get less. I might see if I can find a Purolator Boss that fits.
Dealers offer mayor discount On line either for toyota owner or autoshop. They are made on thailand meticulously certified imported good quality design.
Filter is way too small for that car.
What a teeny tiny oil filter, 9000 miles is way too long between oil changes....stick to 5000 mile intervals....oil is cheap, SuperTech filters are even cheaper....then engines
Change it every other oil change.