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Those 2 filters show WHY oil should be changed every 5k and/or 6 months, when using synthetic oil; IF you use straight mineral oil, then go to the 3k/4-month oil change schedule!
Every 6 months? Oil don't go bad sitting in the pan. It takes heat to break it down. Takes heat & fuel to make it acidic. Heat being the key catalyst. Once a year is fine. Or every 5 years, in the case of my F-150. Oil isn't going bad sitting in the garage most of the year.
Sloopy potting/glue jobs, in a premium filter one would hope for better. Probably didn't hurt anything though. If I was interested in running an Amsoil filter, just buy a Champ Labs made Fram Endurance FE off the WM shelf for $13. Same filters. Thanks for vid.
Good job, Pete! I don't think these filters are worth the money they charge They look like they have good media, but I do not like the bypass valve inside the leaf spring. Too much chance for leakage. The media did do its job and looks well made but I think I will stick to my Boss filters.
For the price of the Amsoil filter I'd just change the filter twice as often with a different brand. That sludge just tells me it's not a good oil change interval to go that long.
For better or worse there were no metallic particles sparkling around on either of those filters. Just a bit of carbon/sludge. Interesting video and comments.
@@ChrisPatrick-q6k The filter looks like it’s blocked with crap and the oil looks like syrup. Check out The Car Care Nut, who is a master Toyota technician, for his views on 10K oil change intervals.
As far as I'm concerned, so much for long oil change intervals. I would rather go with a less expensive oil and change my oil more often. I'm not against Amsoil, but the long oil change intervals to me are just not worth it. It does appear to me that there are a number of good quality filters on the market. This channel has some great information. Good Job.
Filter #1 looks like rusting and my guess is because it was on the truck for far longer than they are rated for use. That is the result of condensation from being on the truck for over 2 years when Amsoil recommends only 25K miles or 1 year whichever comes first. Don't blame the filter folks blame the owner.
😊If he always used amsoil that is not ok for 16k for Signature Series. If its the first use with filter 1 than I imagine it the high detergence function cleaning out old sludge/varnish buildup explaining the colour change of filter 2
The left over sludge was caught by second filter? Poor engine! So sad! Lol mine have 0 sludge with over 200,000 miles. 3000 0ne year max per oil change and new filter!
amsoil had donaldson make the filters for them before with the premium filter that donaldson offers which is the best filtration media but have since changed to fram as the contractor for the filters and they are using the fram top filtration media that is offered.
@@WhipCityWrencher Champion, Luber-Finer and Fram are all owned by First Brands these days. First Brands was formerly know as Trico (the wiper blade company) but is a multi-national corporation that produces for both aftermarket and OEM. You will notice cross pollination of the brands when comparing base plates, center tubes and by-pass valves. Many of Amsoils filters are made by Fram but with production facilities all over the world, and First Brands being the parent company of the filter manufacturers, it's possible to get them from a multitude of facilities. My last batch of Amsoil filters were made at the Fram facility in Greenville, Ohio.
You need to do a side by side comparison with a filter that went 20,000 miles on one truck and another truck with the same powertrain that did 5,000 miles changed the same day. A filter that has been sitting for years will obviously look worse because the used contaminated oil was exposed to oxygen and moisture and will go acidic. Of course it’s going to look sludged compared to a recent filter. Please do another legitimate test with the miles stated above changed the same day or close to.
Okay, I KNOW I'm going to "ruffle some feathers," but I am anti-Amsoil. And don't mean to insult my distant neighbor from PA (I'm from Westmoreland Co). That's TOO nice of a truck to maintain it like Amsoil WANTS u to do. I have 21,000 miles on my Prius, FAITHFULLY change it 6mos/5,000 miles whether it needs it or not & Im a senior who gets under my car in my driveway. Im due to change it in May. My oil is STILL clean. Has 0 SLUDGE. You are shortening the life of your ICE. Why do Amsoil videos use CLEANERS??? If u change it enough, u don't NEED additives. Amsoil products & their philosophy are for "FLEET" services ONLY. U know, companies who use vehicles excessive for daily use & want to keep maintenance costs down. I'm wasting money? I GUARANTEE I will have no major engine repairs & for the price of new vehicles, it's not worth the risk for me. Buy a used one? Would I REALLY buy a vehicle maintained like Amsoil preaches?🤔 Thank goodness for Pete for showing us his analysis & guides us to good decisions.
Amsoil rip-off bases on manufacturer and overly miles of service intervals. That's not the case for an outanding oil brand but not for a filter deaign. This fiter besed on your discoveries appears to be made by regular wix filter o fram. Not my cup of tea.Mobil1 or K&N is even way better. Amsoil should only be focusing on great oil production only not a filter or veraities of automotive items. "Peaches are peaches and Apples are apples."
That 16k filter is horrible ! Yikes !! And $15 a grt engine oil with a $19 filter ? all that truck needs is a fram ultra or XP with supertech 10,000 mile synthetic which meets ILSAC GF 6 every 5 or 6k and it will be just fine ! One word "SCAMSOIL" 😵
If changing every 5K miles, there will be no improvement in engine longevity with Amsoil, compared to any of the top synthetics. Case in point: the cab that just took us to the airport was a Toyota Sienna with 425K miles on it. The owner used OEM filters and Supertech synthetic oil for every oil change.
The owner should use Mobil 1 Extended Protection or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and change their oil every 5K miles. I know Amsoil Signature is expensive and supposed to last a long time. but 15K miles is too long of an oil change interval. It's not a matter of oil breakdown, but also a mater of engine and oil cleanliness. As you proved in a prior video, those Amsoil filters are made by Fram, and the minor differences were just differences between one production run and another.
The worst oil/filter I ever seen in my life was a Buick that went by the oil life monitor...that hit 0%....at exactly a year....with 950 miles on it. When I was driving 50,000 miles a year I changed every 20k and at 200k and everything else made the vehicle a good around towner for some kid, not someone driving 500 miles a day for work, they never burned oil.
filter #1 media is clearly taller by 30 thousandths. not sure why you said they're the same. amsoil filters are nothing special, just a rebranded filter from one of the big manufacturers.
They are the same, oil filters are not made with exact measurements. If I moved the caliper to the other side, I would have probably gotten the same measurements. That's close enough for me. Amsoil oil, filters are made by Champ Labs.
Great video Pete. Chuck is a dope for going that long on intetvals. Not to mention paying 2x for the oil and filter. Better off using MOBIL 1 every year/6k plus PRBoss is a better filter.
I didn’t see any sparklie metal shavings in that filter media. Did you? The purpose of the filter is to trap dirt and sludge. It looked to me as if it served its purpose.
He might want to try full synthetic Motorcraft oil if he's going to exceed the factory recommended 7500 mile oil change. Motorcraft synthetic appears to be superior to Amsoil & Mobil 1.
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Not worth the money to me. I like the Fram XG filters. Nice to see another Great video. Thank you.
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That first one looked sludged up. Which goes to show that you should always change your oil & filter at 5,000 mile intervals, NOT 15-20,000 miles.
Yup ! Oil & oil filters are relatively cheap compared to a new engine
@daewooparts exactly. Well, unless they're Amsoil oil and filters lol 😆
Those 2 filters show WHY oil should be changed every 5k and/or 6 months, when using synthetic oil; IF you use straight mineral oil, then go to the 3k/4-month oil change schedule!
Every 6 months? Oil don't go bad sitting in the pan. It takes heat to break it down. Takes heat & fuel to make it acidic. Heat being the key catalyst.
Once a year is fine. Or every 5 years, in the case of my F-150. Oil isn't going bad sitting in the garage most of the year.
@@donwyoming1936oil definitely goes bad sitting in your engine.
@@donwyoming1936 Buddy !!!
Mr *Jaydizzle870* said absolutely TRUTH!!!
Short trips are hard on engines and engine oil.
Sloopy potting/glue jobs, in a premium filter one would hope for better. Probably didn't hurt anything though. If I was interested in running an Amsoil filter, just buy a Champ Labs made Fram Endurance FE off the WM shelf for $13. Same filters. Thanks for vid.
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Yup basically the same filter without all the glue with the Amsoil
Yes amsoil, real endurance and royal purple seem to be exact same filter.
Surprised to see such a small filter and little filtering media for a big V8 like that.
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Good job, Pete! I don't think these filters are worth the money they charge They look like they have good media, but I do not like the bypass valve inside the leaf spring. Too much chance for leakage. The media did do its job and looks well made but I think I will stick to my Boss filters.
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@@WhipCityWrencher Anytime, Pete!
Same filter as Fram Endurance
@@czjonny8933 But it says Amsoil on the can and it is twice the price. It HAS to be better! 😝
@@jamescaron6465 royal purple filter is also the same. His videos are great.
Thanks for cutting these open... I've always done extended drain intervals with Amsoil and always wondered if the filters were holding up.
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So nice of Chuck to send you these two filters! The newer filter looks so much better. Great job comparing these filters! Enjoy your day! 👍😊
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For the price of the Amsoil filter I'd just change the filter twice as often with a different brand. That sludge just tells me it's not a good oil change interval to go that long.
But how long did it sit before this video? 2 years?
So nice of Chuck😊. A very good review. Thanks for sharing Pete . Have a blessed and happy day. 😊. Take care.
Yes, it was. Thanks, Merri!👍
For better or worse there were no metallic particles sparkling around on either of those filters. Just a bit of carbon/sludge. Interesting video and comments.
You are too kind. And how long do u think he'll FIND metal particles? Better yet, how soon will he have bearing problems? 🤔
The 16,000 mile filter was probably in perpetual bypass mode.
I don't know why you think that, they looked very similar, although I'd not go past 10k myself.
I kinda doubt it but thanks for the feedback
@@ChrisPatrick-q6k The filter looks like it’s blocked with crap and the oil looks like syrup. Check out The Car Care Nut, who is a master Toyota technician, for his views on 10K oil change intervals.
@@ChrisPatrick-q6k Check The Car Care Nut, who is a master Toyota technician, for his views on 10K oil change intervals.
Because the filter was loaded with crap and the oil looked like chocolate syrup.
The Florida pool pump motor repair guy 32750 approved ! that was good info & see WCW
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Interesting 🤔. I'll stick to wix xp. Im a fan of the synthetic material
This Amsoil oil filter is a synthetic filter media. 5:58
4:42 ,you can hear the nitty gritty with that one ......definitely need to change your oil & filter way more often
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It had been sitting for 3 years, probably didn't help. I would have preferred to open it up earlier.
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Thank you for having this channel. I have learned a lot about oil filters.
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As far as I'm concerned, so much for long oil change intervals. I would rather go with a less expensive oil and change my oil more often. I'm not against Amsoil, but the long oil change intervals to me are just not worth it. It does appear to me that there are a number of good quality filters on the market. This channel has some great information. Good Job.
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Interesting. Amsoil oil sludging at 16k. Can’t be. This is the Superman of oil and good for 25k.
The oil was doing its job, cleaning the sludge that was inside the engine, and it ended up in the oil filter😊
@@kos2318 oh. So whoever this person is that sent the filter in had not run Amsoil in this truck before? I guess I missed that in the video. My error.
😀😄😁😂🤣 Then Amsoil woke up.🥱
OR, 1 year. Like they advertise. These filters are way over 1 year.
So wait a second, that first one is advertised to go another 9k on top of that?
Nice job today. Thank you.
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Great video! I've always wondered what makes these filters so pricey. Looks like it's just the name on the sticker. :))
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They are Basically the same as a Fram Endurance oil filter. Check out this video. ua-cam.com/video/eIy_5SbvJWo/v-deo.html
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i just watched a video yesterday and the fram endurance is exactly the same as a amsoil they get them from the same company
Yep, they are made by Champ labs. ua-cam.com/video/eIy_5SbvJWo/v-deo.html
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Filter #1 looks like rusting and my guess is because it was on the truck for far longer than they are rated for use. That is the result of condensation from being on the truck for over 2 years when Amsoil recommends only 25K miles or 1 year whichever comes first. Don't blame the filter folks blame the owner.
😊If he always used amsoil that is not ok for 16k for Signature Series. If its the first use with filter 1 than I imagine it the high detergence function cleaning out old sludge/varnish buildup explaining the colour change of filter 2
Anything to keep the scamsoil flag flying….
The left over sludge was caught by second filter? Poor engine! So sad! Lol mine have 0 sludge with over 200,000 miles. 3000 0ne year max per oil change and new filter!
Thanks for the feedback
amsoil had donaldson make the filters for them before with the premium filter that donaldson offers which is the best filtration media but have since changed to fram as the contractor for the filters and they are using the fram top filtration media that is offered.
There actually made by Champ labs.
@@WhipCityWrencher Champion, Luber-Finer and Fram are all owned by First Brands these days. First Brands was formerly know as Trico (the wiper blade company) but is a multi-national corporation that produces for both aftermarket and OEM. You will notice cross pollination of the brands when comparing base plates, center tubes and by-pass valves. Many of Amsoils filters are made by Fram but with production facilities all over the world, and First Brands being the parent company of the filter manufacturers, it's possible to get them from a multitude of facilities. My last batch of Amsoil filters were made at the Fram facility in Greenville, Ohio.
It seems filter #2 is made in USA filter #1 made in Mexico. I use the same filter. Thank You
You need to do a side by side comparison with a filter that went 20,000 miles on one truck and another truck with the same powertrain that did 5,000 miles changed the same day. A filter that has been sitting for years will obviously look worse because the used contaminated oil was exposed to oxygen and moisture and will go acidic. Of course it’s going to look sludged compared to a recent filter. Please do another legitimate test with the miles stated above changed the same day or close to.
Fine, where do I get these oil filters?😊
Why is one inlet hole bigger?
I have No Idea, probably something to do with the production process. Just a guess🤔
I'll go 16,000 miles between oil changes but, y'all will call me Rubber Duck on the CB.
This video obviously shows *Motorcraft FL-820S* much better for this vehicle.
Okay, I KNOW I'm going to "ruffle some feathers," but I am anti-Amsoil. And don't mean to insult my distant neighbor from PA (I'm from Westmoreland Co). That's TOO nice of a truck to maintain it like Amsoil WANTS u to do. I have 21,000 miles on my Prius, FAITHFULLY change it 6mos/5,000 miles whether it needs it or not & Im a senior who gets under my car in my driveway. Im due to change it in May. My oil is STILL clean. Has 0 SLUDGE. You are shortening the life of your ICE. Why do Amsoil videos use CLEANERS??? If u change it enough, u don't NEED additives. Amsoil products & their philosophy are for "FLEET" services ONLY. U know, companies who use vehicles excessive for daily use & want to keep maintenance costs down. I'm wasting money? I GUARANTEE I will have no major engine repairs & for the price of new vehicles, it's not worth the risk for me. Buy a used one? Would I REALLY buy a vehicle maintained like Amsoil preaches?🤔 Thank goodness for Pete for showing us his analysis & guides us to good decisions.
Thanks for Sharing
Not worth the money! Microguard Select is my go-to.
Yes, Microgard Select, or Premium Guard Extended Life. Both excellent.
The oil goop in the first filter is ugly.
Amsoil rip-off bases on manufacturer and overly miles of service intervals. That's not the case for an outanding oil brand but not for a filter deaign. This fiter besed on your discoveries appears to be made by regular wix filter o fram. Not my cup of tea.Mobil1 or K&N is even way better. Amsoil should only be focusing on great oil production only not a filter or veraities of automotive items. "Peaches are peaches and Apples are apples."
It's actually a Champ lab. made filter, same as Fram Endurance.
@@WhipCityWrencher Even worse!
That got ugly. They're similar to Wix filters.
There actually the same as a Fram Endurance oil filter. Thanks!
That 16k filter is horrible ! Yikes !! And $15 a grt engine oil with a $19 filter ? all that truck needs is a fram ultra or XP with supertech 10,000 mile synthetic which meets ILSAC GF 6 every 5 or 6k and it will be just fine ! One word "SCAMSOIL" 😵
If changing every 5K miles, there will be no improvement in engine longevity with Amsoil, compared to any of the top synthetics. Case in point: the cab that just took us to the airport was a Toyota Sienna with 425K miles on it. The owner used OEM filters and Supertech synthetic oil for every oil change.
Yeah not a big fan of amsoil. This punctuates that.
Fwiw, me neither.
That poor truck going 16k miles without an oil change!
According to my wife oil changes are optional. So not sure what you’re worried about….😂
That rust could have been there before the filter was ever used.
Have you compared a WIX filter with a Purolator ONE series? How about a Purolator ONE vs. a Purolator BOSS?
Maybe I need to send them to you.
I've done a lot of comparisons on them filters but I may have missed them two.
Remind me NOT to buy Chucks F-250
The owner should use Mobil 1 Extended Protection or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and change their oil every 5K miles. I know Amsoil Signature is expensive and supposed to last a long time. but 15K miles is too long of an oil change interval. It's not a matter of oil breakdown, but also a mater of engine and oil cleanliness. As you proved in a prior video, those Amsoil filters are made by Fram, and the minor differences were just differences between one production run and another.
The worst oil/filter I ever seen in my life was a Buick that went by the oil life monitor...that hit 0%....at exactly a year....with 950 miles on it. When I was driving 50,000 miles a year I changed every 20k and at 200k and everything else made the vehicle a good around towner for some kid, not someone driving 500 miles a day for work, they never burned oil.
Very great review Pete. Thank you for all that you do, you have been and continue to be incredibly helpful! Also thank you Chuck for sending these in!
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Chuck sent the oil filters to me.
So filter number 1 is supposed to last another 9k on top of that? 😮
filter #1 media is clearly taller by 30 thousandths. not sure why you said they're the same. amsoil filters are nothing special, just a rebranded filter from one of the big manufacturers.
They are the same, oil filters are not made with exact measurements. If I moved the caliper to the other side, I would have probably gotten the same measurements. That's close enough for me.
Amsoil oil, filters are made by Champ Labs.
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Great video Pete. Chuck is a dope for going that long on intetvals. Not to mention paying 2x for the oil and filter. Better off using MOBIL 1 every year/6k plus PRBoss is a better filter.
I didn’t see any sparklie metal shavings in that filter media. Did you? The purpose of the filter is to trap dirt and sludge. It looked to me as if it served its purpose.
Thanks John,
and thanks for the feedback, but Please no name calling.
the boss is horrible at actually filtering. most of the BOSS line is 99% @>46um.
@@brendan747 Boss? Huh?
@@RetirednbrokeinPa the purolator boss filter
He might want to try full synthetic Motorcraft oil if he's going to exceed the factory recommended 7500 mile oil change. Motorcraft synthetic appears to be superior to Amsoil & Mobil 1.
I haven't seen an oil analysis on the Motorcraft oil. Is it that good? Thanks!
Motorcraft oil is not as good as amsoil. Amsoil has lower noack, higher tbn and better base oils. Do some research, your clearly uneducated on oils.
Nonsense, Amsoil is definitely superior