Starship 31's Damaged TROUBLE! SpaceX Leader Gives NEW Detail Update...
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Starship 31's Damaged TROUBLE! SpaceX Leader Gives NEW Detail Update...
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0:00-0:31: Intro
0:32-3:44: The real reason Ship 31 burst out
3:45-5:01: Starship full-stack
5:02-6:25: New Starship V2’s segment
6:26-8:01: Kathy Luder said about Starbase
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Starship 31's Damaged TROUBLE! SpaceX Leader Gives NEW Detail Update...
SpaceX is not only actively preparing for the fourth Starship launch with Ship 29 and Booster 11, but they are also testing other prototypes to optimize time and increase launch frequency in the near future.
However, things do not always go smoothly. Recently, SpaceX encountered trouble during a test with Starship prototype 31.
So, what issue did Ship 31 face?
Starship 31's Damaged TROUBLE! SpaceX Leader Gives NEW Detail Update...
What did the Starbase director say about this? Is it a serious problem that could impact the entire Starship production system?
Let’s find out on today’s episode of Alpha Tech:
Starship 31's Damaged TROUBLE! SpaceX Leader Gives NEW Detail Update...
On May 12th, SpaceX conducted the first cryogenic proof test on Ship 31 since it was fully stacked on October 3rd, 2023. This test aimed to verify the structural integrity of the prototype at extremely low temperatures.
However, Ship 31 did not have a smooth start. During the middle of the test, as gaseous nitrogen was being filled into the CH4 tank, an incident occurred. A bright fire emerged clearly within the thick fog for about 15 seconds. Although SpaceX did not publicly disclose the cause of the incident, many speculate it was an electrical issue with the ship.
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Looks like SpaceX is ironing out ALL the wrinkles in V1 before continuing to later versions. "Big testing" Go SpaceX 👏🌎
Yeah! That’s right
I'm predicting a V2 ship ready to go by October 10th 2024.
I’m good with that cause it’s my Birthday. Lol
Hey, how can I contact you?
I did some electrical do you need to get me over there I'll show them how to fix the wires
You know anything about the liens on spacex for all the unpaid subcontractors?
That seems to be a hot topic these days!!!
It is amazing that Space X test full sized craft to learn with while Boeing works up with scaled stages and still is 7 years behind with many times the cost. SpaceX is even taking over a few flights Boeing failed to deliver. Taxpayers are not being paid back by Boeing’s failure to deliver on contracts.
I hope Space X has big improvements on the next Starship Launch. If they can get the ship into orbit and back down to earth in one piece, that will be a huge accomplishment, and will justify the development of all of these future Launch Pads, Fuel Tanker and transfer ships, etc. Until they can prove the ship works, it's all just talk. Shag Wellington knows that for sure.
😱
0:2 this is so so Thunderbirds looking, see any strings?? 😂😂😂😂
when did Kathy leave the Charlie Brown Show?
Where would they be fabricating parts remotely?
Possibly FLA or at the giga factory
Hawthorne is just one of them.
By now they should have accumulated so much experience that such incidents would be prevented on a planning stage.
Also, they'll try to catch BOTH the booster and the starship on the sixth flight? How? Will there be no separation? Or the ship won't go half way around the Earth and splash somewhere in Indian Ocean? BTW they have only one megazilla. Will we have to wait for the second one to be built and tested (half a year at minimum) before the sixth launch is even tried?
2nd tower is built in Flodida loser.
Shag Wellington will get it all fixed up!
This is click bait at its worst!
The content of the show matches the headline of the video to an exact T... Change your diaper
Largest starship factory in the world? Or is it really the largest Ford Edsel factory in the world? If there are customers for the starship great. If there aren’t any customers, then SpaceX is just building another Edsel factory and we all know how well that turned out for Ford.
What I see there is continual problems from the ring structure style of construction.
They are having to transport them flat to prevent collapse, and then stack them very high. all that is slow and laborious. and difficult passage for every section.
If they went to longitudinal gores, they could build them in the flat, with internal structure installed, transport stacked flat
And assemble with the crane by standing up the gores, and building the gores around the end domes and prefabricated decks.
And at the same time get full length longitudinals, and not have your structure full diameter butt welded every ring width.
This is bad engineering. Also limits ship design shapes to round hulls.
Flying logs aerodynamically, and less than pleasant spaces to live in, and no flat walls to build to, or put any thing against. Would be better with more linear construction, at least get facet like flat sides, and architectual freedom, without the continual problems wasting space and materials fitting everything to a short radius curve...
Try sticking your bunk agaist that hull on decks... Gonna get a wasted space where the straight edge of bunk meets round curve of hull. And they will soon find building internals taking twice as much time as closing in the hull.
Also if they discover glide ratio helps re-entry, with round hull limits, they will be stuck with 1930's era Aircraft hull styles. Cobbling wings and fins onto a tube, instead of potential blended wing shapes etc.
They will be locked a hundred years behind potential start ups who realize these issues ahead of the curve. And they will have spent billions trapping themselves.
I hope the Chinese are listening... Sure they could appreciate better designs and better function... And right now likely have the most experience building linear hull shapes in marine shipping...
And I dont look forward to saying:
"I told you so repeatedly", to SpaceX,
after its too late...
This is all down stream of the water tank guys.
And not building proper jigs and fabrication aids.
One thing leads to another, and problems multiply over time building things.
'I hope the Chinese are listening...' If they follow your expertise we need not be afraid of them!
Just a question: Why have submarines round hulls? Making them square would make building the interior much easier.
@@gottfriedheumesser1994
Funny! quite a difference between thousands of PSI, on the outside, and about 15 psi. on the inside...
In fact the Navy ships standard scuttle hatches are rated for 15 psi.
But they dont put those on subs for external use.
In other words the standard fabricated ships hull likely exceeds the hatch for pressure potentials. i.e. with fabrication you dont need round shape to withstand minor pressure on the inside.
Elon's ships are likely only slightly thinner, but stainless, which is a pretty good alloy, not just mild steel.
So building only tubes is a neurosis... And I never said build cubes. I said faceted, gores, likely the width of a sheet just like the rings are. And if they pooched a bit with internal pressure it wouldnt stress them much at the welds as you'd likely cross the seams with gusset tabs or transvers framing with rat holes to acess the welds for inspection and repair.
They are inflating the current ship just to stiffen it for flight. Which by the way I suggested before the first one flew.
If you read all my past writs on just Alpha Tech you would probably notice many things got later used. Even got a couple thank you notes from Elon... And if you followed my stuff you would see it pops up on other channels in comments consistantly in comments by others.
After I write it.
And on the Chinese: I'm old enough to know governments are temporary. And I want humanity into space and I dont care who makes it happen. And I know some Chinese and other Asians personally and like them, just as much as I have liked Germans and Russians etc.
Theres quite a bit to current Starships that I have influenced... Without my input things would be much retarded.
Including the engines,
I was who first posted parts count. That was on r/SpaceX.... user name was ActOutside followed by a four digit number, roughly a week or less after Elon's memo about SpaceX going potentially bankrupt from engine costs and difficulty.
I got trolled for that for two days.... So, Toll me, I'm used to it! 🤗
@@garylester3976 Thanks for your endless posting. As an engineer, I had to study a lot of mechanics. As most of the body of a rocket are tanks (3/4 LOX, and 1/4 LNG) with some internal pressure it should be clear that the optimum structure is a tube with a semi-spherical termination. Everything else will make the structure heavier and less stable. It is also easier to weld the rings together when they stand upwards- Otherwise, you need spars to get the structure stiffer. That means additional mass and weakening of the structure unless one reinforces it with even more mass. 'The best part is no part' is true in this respect.
@@gottfriedheumesser1994
No problem.
Yeah, I have stated many times that the tanks should be kept round, or be lobed. i.e. rounded with some structure added to allow fattening and not getting too thick on the walls.
The real stress points on elongated round tanks is at the ends. if they are flat. which is why on starship they are domed.
If you think about lobed tanks, you will find its a common containment shape in nature for good reasons.
And the tanks on Starship are over 100 psi. and still fairly thin. they have to be off gassed or they will rupture from increasing vapor pressure.
What I am talking about is the ship, that especially for re-entry, building in longitudinal gores would have advantages, from internal straight sections, for building or putting things against, to external advantages for say aerodynamic shapes for re-entry.
If you study hard chine boat and ship hulls, you will see they are built like modern stealth aircraft in many ways.
If you are interested in metal hulls, you might get a copy of Thomas Colvin's "Steel boat building"...
It covers fundamentals of fabricated hulls, and is full of gems that apply to Ships of Space. I've beat up the Nerds at SpaceX no few times with info learned from Colvin.
Also my father studied Ship Fitting at Bremerton Naval Ship Yard, And I owned the course text for decades and read it repeatedly.
Hulls have been an interest since I was a young teen in the 60's...
I also was in the US Navy, so have personal experience. Also have laid out arty smaller boat hulls of my own design for fabrication.
And have similar interests in Aircraft. My first 4 flights across the Atlantic the planes had propellers.
And I grew up on Air Bases...
So, a strange mix of understanding that somewhat applies to Starship. And a high mechanical aptitude... Aced the Militay's mechanical aptitude test.
Its part of the problem with modern engineering, often too specialized. I had an uncle in the 60's who was a well paid engineer at Boeing, and he was raised on the farm and into all kinds of stuff. Two of his brothers were machinists.
And I trained in micro machining. Also construction, and fabrication is just a hobby. (But I was taught by professionals...)
And one son a state Champion in auto mechanics, which is half computers now.
Starship is new territory for space, but much of what is being attempted relates to other fields.
And it only started getting good when Elon increased the number and kinds of experienced blue collar workers. Its really building a ship, not just a rocket.
And I have haranged them continually and gotten upgrades to happen, by spotting and pointing out things online.
But I try to remember, its Elon's project, and he needs to be creative in his own ways. And I often see the engineers do really good stuff.
But what I am proudest of, is changing the paradigm online about people submitting suggestions...
three years ago it was blasphemy to dare to suggest anything, now its perfectly normal to read comments and see all kinds of ideas to help, and some of them worth very serious consideration.
Basically I reamed the snobs and blazed the trail, and now seeing seriously good results... when I used to get banned for making suggestions.
That seemed to end not long after parts count.
They did ban me from
r/spacex for stating I had seen screen shots from feminist writs talking about ending space programs and spending the money on women.
So basically was the first to try to warn of harassment from the left.
They didnt like Elon's Space stuff long before the current harassment from that side politically.
And I'm here to back Elon.
Also to encourage others, by humor if necessary.
Nobody knows everything, everybody misses things.
And humans form traditions from expedients, and vector off from optimum continually.
Also Elon appreciates input....
G.
@@garylester3976 For shipbuilding I have a colleague who was reading Shipbuilding at the university. But this doesn't help much in building rockets. I would say, airplane building is nearer. Sadly nobody can keep up with your experience.
Prediction: Elon will start believing his own wildly, optimistic schedules and will lay off the entire falcon 9 operational team, even before starship is working.
An assessment of Elon Musk:
Amateurishness is one of Elon’s dominant traits. He has never learned a profession and basically has always remained an outsider in all fields of endeavor. Like many self-taught people, Elon has no idea what real specialized knowledge really means. Without any sense of the complexities of any great task, he boldly assumes one function after another. Unburdened by standard ideas, his quick intelligence sometimes conceives unusual measures which a specialist would not have hit on at all.
The victories of the early years of Elon’s business career can literally be attributed to his ignorance of the rules of the game and his layman's delight in decision making. Since opposing sides were trained to apply rules which Elon’s self-taught autocratic mind did not know and did not use, he achieved surprises. These audacities, coupled with financial superiority, were the basis of his early successes.
But now that setbacks have occurred he has suffered shipwreck, like most untrained people. Now his ignorance of the rules of the game are revealed as another kind of incompetence; now his defects are no longer strengths. The greater the failures become, the more obstinately his incurable amateurishness comes to the fore. The tendency to wild decisions has long been Elon’s forte; now it is speeding his downfall.
NOTE: This is a paraphrase of the assessment of Hitler that Albert Speer (a German architect who served as the Minister of Armaments and War Production in Nazi Germany during most of World War II) wrote in his memoirs, “Inside the Third Reich”. This was quoted in the video entitled “207 - Manstein Goes Great War Style - WW2 - August 13, 1943” on the UA-cam channel with the title of “World War Two”.
so. finding a fault before its critical... is bad? this guy is just a progressive hater
@wbwarren57 You are a Damn fool! He is the only one who is the head of a company that has accomplished landing and reusing rockets! NASA hasn't done that to this day!🙄😂
Also see a psychiatrist!🤷♂️
An assessment of @wbwarren57:
Please oh wise one, tell us of all the incredible things you have accomplished in your short frustrated and meaningless life? We’re all waiting.
Largest starship factory in the world? Or is it really the largest Ford Edsel factory in the world? If there are customers for the starship great. If there aren’t any customers, then SpaceX is just building another Edsel factory and we all know how well that turned out for Ford.