Bro! Your content is second to none! You are one of only a few content providers that spend time reviewing the on-board audio for MB's. Too many reviewers overlook that aspect. Appreciate all you do! Great content BTW!
I didn't even know Soyo still existed! I remember doing one build with a Soyo board way back in the day. I think I didn't have any problems with it, but it was so long ago I can't be sure. I remember back when we had about a dozen mobo makers. I have one of the infamous Abit boards with the awful chinese caps that leaked like crazy. Did a few Biostar builds too. Even recall having an ECS based system. I thought the only ones left now were Asrock, Asus, MSI, and Gigabyte.
many of those, like Biostar, ECS elitegroup, Supermicro, are still good and kicking today, they're just not popular, specially for reviews. HOWEVER, this soyo is not the same of yore, is just a Chinese product with the old brand name attached to it.
Back in the day, we used to have so much more motherboard manufacturers. However I only miss good company like DFI . Not the rest of them which have disappeared from the market.
2000's Soyo no longer exist, Maxsum re brand their mobos with Soyo logo for take advantage of their heritage. Biostar still existing, an their actual mobos have a very crap VRM, causing power throttling even with low power CPU like Ryzen 5600.
Soyo never died. They just could NOT sell outside Asia anymore. They are only found in most of Asia, as well as Russia nowadays - they were one of the companies that got bitten by the huge capacitor fiasco that killed ABIT and probably made DFI exit the consumer market as well. Glad to see they still maintain a pint of overclock ability in their BIOSes.
true, soyo is currently under kyo group (together with sama, kaizen, etc). in my country (indonesia) the brand is known as kaizen, they are cheap af and pretty popular here. they sell $50 for A520 board with 3 years warranty.
Kind of.. The original Soyo Group ceased in 2009. Shangke Group (parent of Maxsun) bought the name and brought all physical assets left and part of Soyo staff from Taiwan to Shenzen. It seems KYO rebrands Soyo and Maxsun stuff as like it was done while the original Soyo Group was around. Btw. A preproduction model of this Soyo B550M motherboard was the first B550 board that was leaked over 3 years ago.
Man, I miss DFI. They were inexpensive, no frills, built for speed motherboards. I had a power supply pop and kill my X38 LanParty, but I've still got a functioning P35 BloodIron time capsule PC.
7:37 For that upcoming PCI-E 4090 test, a suggestion, consider using a 5800x3D as the "high end" CPU. There may be a number of people with B450 (X470) boards (limited to PCI-E 3.0) considering upgrading to a 5800X3D and a newer GPU.
I did that, B450 Tomahawk MAX, 5800X3D and 4090 with 32GB 3866 DDR4. CPU undervolted a tiny bit and the memory is tuned for better timings. Just the memory timings tightening got me 5-8% more fps.
Awesome value in today's market. Back in 2020 I bought a cheap ASRock B450M Pro4 for 39€ including shipping. That was awesome for it's price. I love the memory presets for overclocking on this one. That makes things easier for normal users to set a overclock on the memory.
I bought this mobo for ~75$ in the summer. The only downside of it is that it's rather small and components are close together, difficult to fit tower cooler with the ram and gpu is pretty close to cpu as well. Bios is pretty good, vrm is decent, sata ports are well placed
@@adrianvasquez9935 i had some conflicts using older system installed before when i switched to this mb. I think it was a conflict between mbr and gpt disk structure. I made clean install with modern one and had no issues after. I think i used rufus to make one mbr and one gpt installation usb drive
It is nice to see that Maxsun continued Soyo's iconic dragon imagery and classic Soyo S logo. Soyo always thrived to produce quality products with great price to performance ratios. Back in the early 2000s Pentium 3 and Pentium 4 days Soyo products cost half the price of competing Abit, DFI, and Asus motherboards.This reminds me of what AMD did after they acquired the Canadian ATi graphics manufacturer. AMD continued the Radeon name and classic ATi product design.
Thought-provoking video, Bryan, as ever. I followed your recommendation about the Soyo B660M so am very tempted by this one. My only reservation about these boards is that buyers in the UK have become wary about what they perceive as 'no-name' boards and components and make their buying decisions accordingly.
I second MinorKing; especialy on these lesser known (to us) brands, it is good to know the audio is okay. I'll have to play this again to catch the headphone you mentioned; bad audio can certainly impact game immersion! I don't pop over here often enough; but I am noticing the variation in your outro music. Which, curiously, makes me happy! (I don't generally even like music anywhere in a video. You are looking a lot healthier here compared to the vid three days before this one; I hope that continues to go well: bad hayfever/allergies sucks. TTFN
I must not have tuned in for a while, I had no idea you were in Japan, lol I think we’re in something of a golden age for cheap boards. A lot of what goes into them is components purchased from big companies, like the audio and networking and PCIe controllers, which are all “fine” generally at the very least. So as long as the PCB designs aren’t total garbage and the UEFI is decent, it’s a lot easier to make an OK board
I actually recapped an old soyo board recently. Soyo was a big part of my childhood, and was the thing that let me get into the tech space in the first place! I should get a new one someday
Been running one of these since August last year. Only downsides, are the no amd overclocking/pbo options in the bios (you can use ryzen master for pbo + cuver optimizer, like I do), and that the pwm fans don't really work. You have 2 4 pins, but they go to 100% always. You can use something like argus monitor, or fan control to control them tho, which is what I do, so it's mostly fine, I bought it knowing about this, so it's whatever.
Nice in-depth review of a budget Pc component? Hell yeah! Thanks as always for the great content! Budget PC building is always so fun and is as relevant as ever rn. Specially loved the onboard feature tests, not many reviewers go that far.
I bought the maxsun terminator b550m motherboard pairing it with r5 5600 is such a good value, great company maxsun had it for 5 months now now problems, recommend it
I decided to replace one of my PCs at my other place with a new one to have some modern gaming capabilities + ability to stick RTX 3xxx cards in the future etc. I chose Ryzen 5 5600 as my CPU, and was looking for a b550m motherboard on Aliexpress. I was looking for a budjet option since i already have a good PC and don't want to spend too much on another one. Almost bought a b450m Asus TUF motherboard, but i noticed this a lot cheaper model and it's a B550M for 80 bucks. I was confused, thought it was some kind of a scam or something. But reviews and feedback on this say otherwise, this seems to work completely fine. There is just no other vialable option for a B550M solution other than paying 140+ dollars for more well known motherboards from ASUS etc. So i ordered this one and it's nice to know it is decent for my purposes (gaming)
Soyo is the best by far. Brought my first motherboard by Soyo in 2000 on the socket 370, and just purchased my Soyo RX 580. Soyo do not make they products for overclocking but the look of the rebranding is outstanding and glad to see Soyo still around.
Thanks for this. I been eyeing this for a budget build as a spare PC, was worried about the bios hahah. This content is the reason why I subbed to this channel. You do reviews on budget items where major channels don't.
PSA. When buying the board, inform the seller to update the bios for you. I received one with ancient bios and after I updated the bios, there were issues with rom not writing etc. asked the seller why it was not updated with latest bios (or at least a newer bios) before shipping as stated in their advert, but the seller responded that the buyer must informed them directly for the update. I had my soyo board reflashed by an expert and now it's ok.
That Soyo is made by Maxsun, I've sold a few of these and they are alright! On the cheap side, but ok! They are sold as OEM motherboards here in Portugal with an unbranded BIOS, but flash it with the Soyo BIOS and working!
Cheap and cheerful. I find ive done better with the Soyo mobos than the lower end asrock mobos. They feel more solid than some of the other cheap mobos.
Galax is also making B550m and X570m, i kinda curious about their quality cause those motherboard prices are really affordable. I wish you could review that for the next video ;)
It's absurd that a dying platform have gone up in price. Since I bought my B550-motherboard for 499 swedish kronor they're now around 1000 kr. Even that scetchy aliexpress ones. So twice the price even though it's the end of the road in terms of upcoming cpu-releases. I think I'd rather just pay more to get newer stuff with DDR5 support. If the AM4 platform was half the price I would still consider it though.
I see prices coming down now. I think it was due to the high entry cost of AM5. So most people went for Am4. Motherboard prices 9n the used marked went up as well
In the Philippines by comparison, I've never seen B550 mobo prices drop since release and even now (mostly saw ones in the $150-200 range for B550M mobos), and any discounts I may have missed are few and far between -- whereas CPU prices have dropped. Only the Asrock Pro 4 was the choice I accepted as I needed to replace my B450 mobo due to unfortunate USB port issues.. and even then at $120 it was still slightly higher than B450 mobos that are still around, and those older B450 mobos have not dropped further in price either. I know the global economy is still impacting prices to some extent, but it's unfortunate that mobos for now-finished platforms have not dropped considering older CPUs and GPUs have been lower for some time now particularly with AMD as well
@@b1ini In sweden the A520 motherboards now cost as much as the cheapest B550 motherboards. With shipping all are about 1000 sek (around 100 USD). And for that price you can get a LGA 1700 motherboard. Even a Z790 during certain sales and such. Sure the cpus are more expensive but I think it's time to abandon the AM4 platform. At least for new builds. I'm on a B550 and 5600X. It's good enough until I can get a good price on a AM5 cpu. I got a 770 USD AM5 mobo for 3 USD a few months ago. The reseller accidentally put the wrong price up for a few minutes and I was fast enough to order one. And they discovered the mistake to late so I actually got it shipped lol.
Soyo has made the best motherboards i've ever had in the 2000s. I still have the KT333 Dragon ultra board and its nice to see that their design hasn't changed that much. Didn't know Soyo is still around since they seem not to sell in the EU anymore.
Soyo Group filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy with the United States District Court for the Central District of California, Riverside Division (case number 09-19355-RN), and ceased operations on May 5, 2009. Their headquarters were in Taipei and their sales (at least NA sales) were handled by their CA office. They ceased production of electronics around 2005 and focused on the manufacture of plastics. While no longer operational in USA and Taiwan, most of the assets were shipped to Shenzhen, China and PC production still goes on for the Chinese market.
I have the maxsun version of this one which comes with a steel pcie conector, rock solid motherboard I use it for testing gpus that I repair paired with a 5600 and 32gb ram @3600, never got any funky issues with it
Keep banging out the content. As things keep getting tighter everyone is going to be looking more for a good cheap alternative that ticks all the boxes for what they need.
Great that the PCIe 3.0 vs 4.0 was brought up for comparison with the 4090 since a friend of mine considering upgrading to one, Zchlomoh (?) making the needed tech questions we want to see Bryan cover up. Dont know if this interest you also Bryan, but I would like to know if you could cover up single and dual channel evolution on a Ryzen 1000 vs a 5000 series, even better if you show up different frequencies too, that could help a lot with people who are on a tight budget.
Wow, I haven't seen a Soyo board in a very long time. The first PC I ever built back in the early 2000s was a Soyo board. Can't remember the exact model number, but it was an Intel P4 board with a VIA chipset, DDR400 and sold under the Dragon branding (mine was the Dragon Lite). But by the time I went to do a core upgrade a couple years later, they had all but disappeared from the market. So I was forced to look at other manufactures like Asus and MSI. Which was disappointing at the time because that Soyo board I had was rock solid. I would love to see Soyo make a return to the motherboard market. We definitely need some more good competition to drag the market's current obscene motherboard prices, kicking and screaming back to sanity.
The hardware is the same as Maxsun B550M Terminator, although the BIOS is a little bit different. I am using the Maxsun B550M Terminator with R5 3600 OC 4200MHz.
@@raymondxiao9121 people say it doesn't have hibernation but it's not that important for me. Others say bios settings reset after each PC power on, and with newer bios versions some problems occur. It costs not much and i may try it with r5 5500 or r5 5600.
@@BillyPage1337 I didn't encouter the BIOS reset issue. It does not have complete PBO2, but I don't use it. It's not my main desktop. For daily use PC, I personally recommend ASUS.
It's nice to see products on the cheaper end of the scale. It's good for budget folks to get to know what's out there and what real world performance (or lack thereof) to expect
I have the Maxsun version of that board, it is working well with an r5 5600 and rx 5700xt. I had to add a pwm fan hub though due to its shortage of pwm headers but that only cost me an extra 7 dollars so no big deal.
I bought the Soyo B660m after your review of that a while back. Didn’t think Soyo still existed, but seems like they are selling Maxsun boards? It’s been great with the 12400. Would definitely buy another Soyo product if I was buying another i5 or r5 CPU. Edit: And you’ve just said why they are selling Maxsun boards. 😂
Nice content , bought the motherboard after watching your videos. Could you do a video on how to use it’s features & overclocking the Ryzen cpu etc, what to tweak & what not to get the best performance? Novice here 😅
fun fact: that board fits in the jonsbo c2 AND you can pair it with one of the MLLSE/51risc rx 6600 cards which ALSO fit in that case -- banger of an itx system
Agreed, though it would be somewhere inbetween ASUS and ABIT - I own three Slot1 mainboards - ASUS P2B, ABIT BE6-II, and the vast Soyo 6BA+IV. From all those three - the 6BA would be at the bottom end of the S tier, the ASUS would be in the middle, and the BE6-II is the top contender. That ABIT can do absolute marvels that the P2B and Soyo struggle. (for one, the Soyo refuses to run 133FSB, the P2B crashes absolutely nasty, while the ABIT has no issues doing it)
Hey Brian. Great informative video as always. I have an off topic question however. During almost all of your parts hunt video you always say you have a hard limit when it comes to deals. Would you consider doing a video or even just put out a list for GPU pricing? I flip PC's here and there but I am always unsure as to whether I am overpaying for GPU's.
With all these deals/reviews for Aliexpress. Would you consider checking out the RX 6700 (non XT) from there? They're 279 there and even on Newegg from where I'm checking. At that price, that just sounds like amazing value for someone getting into 1440p max settings no problem.
I was literally just looking at the combo with this board and the 5600 for a friend in Kazakhstan. He's having serious trouble finding Zen 3 parts locally.
Nice review. I am from Nigeria and the dollar to Naira rate is really killing (very bad) due to this I intend building a gaming PC with SOYO products. PLEASE CAN U RECOMMEND A CASING THAT FITS WELL WITH SOYO MOTHERS BOARDS? CAN ANY GPU FIT IN THIS MOTHER BOARD? Please HELP
This motherboard is manufactured by Guangzhou Shangke Information Technology Co., who sold as MaxSun B550M Terminator and Soyo B550M Dragon. A hardware seller in Brazil sold as Pichau Danuri B550M-PX - this version use ALC897 audio CODEC. Shangke manufacture too Teclast tablets.
Uhm, PBO included? That's like the most important thing on am4. PBO on CPU setting with voltage curve -30 is king. Way better performance on still default powerdraw
How would the Soyo board compare to the Asrock B550M Pro 4 ? I can get the Asrock board locally for only A$10 more than the Aliexpress Soyo prices, so much quicker delivery :) Do you know if the audio is better on the Asrock Pro? It says it has Nahimic Audio, but that's just software isn't it?
Audio would be better on the asrock board. That's from personal testing, the VRM on the soyo would be quite similar. It's actually great for an aliexpress board.
For all the Preppers, Why spend serious $$ on burying a Top Shelf motherboard in a faraday cage under the garage that you hope you'll never use. Wrap this baby up and you know its basic, but works.
Great video. I already bought this one, however i've just realized that the Dual Channel "mode" is not detected whenv alidating it in CPU-Z. Any clue here (i've bought 2 killsre RAMS at 3200 mhx)? Thanks in advance!
Its good to see competion in the Motherboard marketplace. However the price difference, versus waiting 3 months for shipping, will probably put most people off, in most parts of the world.
FWIW...I bought a Soyo B450M Classic board from AliE on July 4th..it arrived in my place this morning [July 12th - their standard shipping...and yes in the past I waited for 2-3 months for items...but they seem well and truly over that issue now...running Time Spy Stress Test right now...seems like a decent board!
At least in the UK AliExpress shipping is often less than 2 weeks now. They've improved a lot the last couple of years, especially if you buy from one of the "Choice" stores with 11/12 days shipping. I've never had a parcel arrive late that specifies 11/12 days shipping.
could you do a review on the JGINYUE X99 2011-3M-PLUS D4? been looking for a LGA2011-3 motherboard for i7-6800K, i7-5930K and i7-4820K budget builds but they are quite harder and more expensive to find without them being Dell or HP motherboards in the UK so looks like i gotta find decent cheap aliexpress motherboards to use instead if you have any tips :)
Here in Brazil there is a gap of BRL 200,00 between the Aorus Elite B550M(BRL 650,00) and the SOYO(BRL 440,00) would it be worthy of going for the Aorus for it's better BIOS?
dude i used to buy soyo boards back in the day , they were the best and i didnt think they were still around . very cool.
I remember SOYO...very decent mobos 💪 Haven't seen them in few years tho... This nice info form TYC
I believe this is a new company that bought the name? not related to the old one.
@@mirific87 yeah it was max sun
Wow. Memories. I had a Soyo with an Athlon Thunderbird 1400. That thing ran HOT!!!
Well if I ever see a soyo motherboard, I now know it's a legit brand. Similarly I'll know it'll be good.
Bro! Your content is second to none! You are one of only a few content providers that spend time reviewing the on-board audio for MB's. Too many reviewers overlook that aspect. Appreciate all you do! Great content BTW!
Appreciate the testing of the on-board audio, usually reviews don't go into too much depth on it and it can matter quite a bit
Could always get a professional gaming sound card also 😂 like Dolby atmos card or something if they have that
Soyo was my mobo in my first ever pc build back in the early 2000's. It was paired with an AMD Duron 1Ghz and Geforce 2
happy days :)
Soyo has been around for a LONG time. I remember seeing this brand around 2003. Many motherboard manufacturers then did not survive.
Yeah didn't Abit fraud ECC?
So they must be good must be competing
Well, judging by what Bryan said in the video, they aren't around anymore - bought out by MaxSun because they went broke!
@@DraftySatyr yeah but I at least do know that maxsun is legit. So we'll see how things go with them in the future.
Soyo went under in 2009. The branding must've been purchased by another company.
I didn't even know Soyo still existed! I remember doing one build with a Soyo board way back in the day. I think I didn't have any problems with it, but it was so long ago I can't be sure. I remember back when we had about a dozen mobo makers. I have one of the infamous Abit boards with the awful chinese caps that leaked like crazy. Did a few Biostar builds too. Even recall having an ECS based system. I thought the only ones left now were Asrock, Asus, MSI, and Gigabyte.
many of those, like Biostar, ECS elitegroup, Supermicro, are still good and kicking today, they're just not popular, specially for reviews.
HOWEVER, this soyo is not the same of yore, is just a Chinese product with the old brand name attached to it.
pretty sure Biostar is still in the mobo business
Back in the day, we used to have so much more motherboard manufacturers. However I only miss good company like DFI . Not the rest of them which have disappeared from the market.
2000's Soyo no longer exist, Maxsum re brand their mobos with Soyo logo for take advantage of their heritage.
Biostar still existing, an their actual mobos have a very crap VRM, causing power throttling even with low power CPU like Ryzen 5600.
It's not the same Soyo really, the original Soyo was defunct in 2009.
Soyo never died. They just could NOT sell outside Asia anymore. They are only found in most of Asia, as well as Russia nowadays - they were one of the companies that got bitten by the huge capacitor fiasco that killed ABIT and probably made DFI exit the consumer market as well.
Glad to see they still maintain a pint of overclock ability in their BIOSes.
true, soyo is currently under kyo group (together with sama, kaizen, etc). in my country (indonesia) the brand is known as kaizen, they are cheap af and pretty popular here. they sell $50 for A520 board with 3 years warranty.
Kind of.. The original Soyo Group ceased in 2009. Shangke Group (parent of Maxsun) bought the name and brought all physical assets left and part of Soyo staff from Taiwan to Shenzen. It seems KYO rebrands Soyo and Maxsun stuff as like it was done while the original Soyo Group was around.
Btw. A preproduction model of this Soyo B550M motherboard was the first B550 board that was leaked over 3 years ago.
Man, I miss DFI. They were inexpensive, no frills, built for speed motherboards. I had a power supply pop and kill my X38 LanParty, but I've still got a functioning P35 BloodIron time capsule PC.
@@gamerjorts Aye, P35 is one hell of a beast. Still got an ABIT IP35 ProXE w/ a Q6700 and 8GB worth of green radioactive Zeppelin DDR2 sticks 😂
They sell kits with this soyo mb + ryzen cpus and ram that are extremely popular in Brazil. It's one of their biggest markets.
7:37 For that upcoming PCI-E 4090 test, a suggestion, consider using a 5800x3D as the "high end" CPU. There may be a number of people with B450 (X470) boards (limited to PCI-E 3.0) considering upgrading to a 5800X3D and a newer GPU.
I did that, B450 Tomahawk MAX, 5800X3D and 4090 with 32GB 3866 DDR4. CPU undervolted a tiny bit and the memory is tuned for better timings. Just the memory timings tightening got me 5-8% more fps.
@@TituszFekete I'm on a Tomahawk MAX also and the 5800X3D is goated. I'll be set for a good while.
@@bhume7535 are you using the latest bios released for the motherboard or a specific bios for the 5000 series ?
@@cristobalite83 I just got the latest. why?
Good point ! I have a 6600 on a x470 n 2400g. Im really contemplating 5800x3d and a new mobo to support gen 4 pcie .... but idk yet
Awesome value in today's market. Back in 2020 I bought a cheap ASRock B450M Pro4 for 39€ including shipping. That was awesome for it's price. I love the memory presets for overclocking on this one. That makes things easier for normal users to set a overclock on the memory.
FTR. I have purchased 6 windows keys via your link. Very helpful. Also purchased some games from them and it's worked out great.
I bought this mobo for ~75$ in the summer. The only downside of it is that it's rather small and components are close together, difficult to fit tower cooler with the ram and gpu is pretty close to cpu as well. Bios is pretty good, vrm is decent, sata ports are well placed
Can you enter into sleep mode?, I also bought one of these and sleep mode is disabled
did you have trouble installing windows?
@@adrianvasquez9935 i had some conflicts using older system installed before when i switched to this mb. I think it was a conflict between mbr and gpt disk structure. I made clean install with modern one and had no issues after. I think i used rufus to make one mbr and one gpt installation usb drive
Yep that contac silent 12 was a tight fit to be sure. If you are running like 4600g - 5600g with a 90mm cooler it should be fine.
It is nice to see that Maxsun continued Soyo's iconic dragon imagery and classic Soyo S logo. Soyo always thrived to produce quality products with great price to performance ratios. Back in the early 2000s Pentium 3 and Pentium 4 days Soyo products cost half the price of competing Abit, DFI, and Asus motherboards.This reminds me of what AMD did after they acquired the Canadian ATi graphics manufacturer. AMD continued the Radeon name and classic ATi product design.
Thought-provoking video, Bryan, as ever. I followed your recommendation about the Soyo B660M so am very tempted by this one. My only reservation about these boards is that buyers in the UK have become wary about what they perceive as 'no-name' boards and components and make their buying decisions accordingly.
I second MinorKing; especialy on these lesser known (to us) brands, it is good to know the audio is okay. I'll have to play this again to catch the headphone you mentioned; bad audio can certainly impact game immersion! I don't pop over here often enough; but I am noticing the variation in your outro music. Which, curiously, makes me happy! (I don't generally even like music anywhere in a video. You are looking a lot healthier here compared to the vid three days before this one; I hope that continues to go well: bad hayfever/allergies sucks. TTFN
I love these budget builds!!
I must not have tuned in for a while, I had no idea you were in Japan, lol
I think we’re in something of a golden age for cheap boards. A lot of what goes into them is components purchased from big companies, like the audio and networking and PCIe controllers, which are all “fine” generally at the very least. So as long as the PCB designs aren’t total garbage and the UEFI is decent, it’s a lot easier to make an OK board
I actually recapped an old soyo board recently. Soyo was a big part of my childhood, and was the thing that let me get into the tech space in the first place! I should get a new one someday
Been running one of these since August last year. Only downsides, are the no amd overclocking/pbo options in the bios (you can use ryzen master for pbo + cuver optimizer, like I do), and that the pwm fans don't really work. You have 2 4 pins, but they go to 100% always. You can use something like argus monitor, or fan control to control them tho, which is what I do, so it's mostly fine, I bought it knowing about this, so it's whatever.
I can't get into sleep mode with one of these, do you have the same problem?
Never used sleep mode with it man, sorry@@danielornelas8358
Nice in-depth review of a budget Pc component? Hell yeah! Thanks as always for the great content! Budget PC building is always so fun and is as relevant as ever rn. Specially loved the onboard feature tests, not many reviewers go that far.
I bought the maxsun terminator b550m motherboard pairing it with r5 5600 is such a good value, great company maxsun had it for 5 months now now problems, recommend it
I decided to replace one of my PCs at my other place with a new one to have some modern gaming capabilities + ability to stick RTX 3xxx cards in the future etc. I chose Ryzen 5 5600 as my CPU, and was looking for a b550m motherboard on Aliexpress. I was looking for a budjet option since i already have a good PC and don't want to spend too much on another one. Almost bought a b450m Asus TUF motherboard, but i noticed this a lot cheaper model and it's a B550M for 80 bucks. I was confused, thought it was some kind of a scam or something. But reviews and feedback on this say otherwise, this seems to work completely fine. There is just no other vialable option for a B550M solution other than paying 140+ dollars for more well known motherboards from ASUS etc. So i ordered this one and it's nice to know it is decent for my purposes (gaming)
Soyo is the best by far. Brought my first motherboard by Soyo in 2000 on the socket 370, and just purchased my Soyo RX 580. Soyo do not make they products for overclocking but the look of the rebranding is outstanding and glad to see Soyo still around.
I used to buy Soyo boards in the UK in the 90s, they were decent boards.
Thanks for this. I been eyeing this for a budget build as a spare PC, was worried about the bios hahah. This content is the reason why I subbed to this channel. You do reviews on budget items where major channels don't.
Did u buy it? Is it worth it
PSA. When buying the board, inform the seller to update the bios for you. I received one with ancient bios and after I updated the bios, there were issues with rom not writing etc. asked the seller why it was not updated with latest bios (or at least a newer bios) before shipping as stated in their advert, but the seller responded that the buyer must informed them directly for the update. I had my soyo board reflashed by an expert and now it's ok.
Is it still running? What's CPU and RAM? Does XMP working properly? Windows 11? If you have nvme ssd, does it boot from it?
That Soyo is made by Maxsun, I've sold a few of these and they are alright! On the cheap side, but ok! They are sold as OEM motherboards here in Portugal with an unbranded BIOS, but flash it with the Soyo BIOS and working!
Cheap and cheerful. I find ive done better with the Soyo mobos than the lower end asrock mobos. They feel more solid than some of the other cheap mobos.
Thanks for the video Brian. New hair colour is on point.
Galax is also making B550m and X570m, i kinda curious about their quality cause those motherboard prices are really affordable. I wish you could review that for the next video ;)
Seconded
Nice find Brian. Love me a good budget board.
Great review. Would love to see a similar test but with some of the b450 aliexpress mobos like the machinist b450 white mobo
That dragon looks like a perfect match for my Yakuza game.
Been using Soyo boards back since the days of socket 7 and on woods.Never let me down and a good over clocked as well.
Good video mate. That board has a very nice aesthetic.
I plan to buy it now I got u to review it for me :D thanks YES-man
always enjoy your content sir
It's absurd that a dying platform have gone up in price. Since I bought my B550-motherboard for 499 swedish kronor they're now around 1000 kr. Even that scetchy aliexpress ones. So twice the price even though it's the end of the road in terms of upcoming cpu-releases.
I think I'd rather just pay more to get newer stuff with DDR5 support. If the AM4 platform was half the price I would still consider it though.
I see prices coming down now. I think it was due to the high entry cost of AM5. So most people went for Am4. Motherboard prices 9n the used marked went up as well
In the Philippines by comparison, I've never seen B550 mobo prices drop since release and even now (mostly saw ones in the $150-200 range for B550M mobos), and any discounts I may have missed are few and far between -- whereas CPU prices have dropped. Only the Asrock Pro 4 was the choice I accepted as I needed to replace my B450 mobo due to unfortunate USB port issues.. and even then at $120 it was still slightly higher than B450 mobos that are still around, and those older B450 mobos have not dropped further in price either.
I know the global economy is still impacting prices to some extent, but it's unfortunate that mobos for now-finished platforms have not dropped considering older CPUs and GPUs have been lower for some time now particularly with AMD as well
@@autotropicplaybench1819 we need a 50$ A520 with ryzen first Gen support. CPU prices a great, here you can get a used 1600 for next to nothing.
@@b1ini In sweden the A520 motherboards now cost as much as the cheapest B550 motherboards. With shipping all are about 1000 sek (around 100 USD). And for that price you can get a LGA 1700 motherboard. Even a Z790 during certain sales and such.
Sure the cpus are more expensive but I think it's time to abandon the AM4 platform. At least for new builds. I'm on a B550 and 5600X. It's good enough until I can get a good price on a AM5 cpu. I got a 770 USD AM5 mobo for 3 USD a few months ago. The reseller accidentally put the wrong price up for a few minutes and I was fast enough to order one. And they discovered the mistake to late so I actually got it shipped lol.
Soyo has made the best motherboards i've ever had in the 2000s. I still have the KT333 Dragon ultra board and its nice to see that their design hasn't changed that much. Didn't know Soyo is still around since they seem not to sell in the EU anymore.
Wow, I remember buying stuff from a local Soyo outlet in the 90s. Local branch was run by a Chinese lady called Grace....
I had a soyo board like 24 years ago. Was an amd chip in it. Was a beast.
Soyo Group filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy with the United States District Court for the Central District of California, Riverside Division (case number 09-19355-RN), and ceased operations on May 5, 2009. Their headquarters were in Taipei and their sales (at least NA sales) were handled by their CA office. They ceased production of electronics around 2005 and focused on the manufacture of plastics. While no longer operational in USA and Taiwan, most of the assets were shipped to Shenzhen, China and PC production still goes on for the Chinese market.
I have the maxsun version of this one which comes with a steel pcie conector, rock solid motherboard I use it for testing gpus that I repair paired with a 5600 and 32gb ram @3600, never got any funky issues with it
Are maxsun products good? Quit a few where I live
Keep banging out the content. As things keep getting tighter everyone is going to be looking more for a good cheap alternative that ticks all the boxes for what they need.
Great that the PCIe 3.0 vs 4.0 was brought up for comparison with the 4090 since a friend of mine considering upgrading to one, Zchlomoh (?) making the needed tech questions we want to see Bryan cover up. Dont know if this interest you also Bryan, but I would like to know if you could cover up single and dual channel evolution on a Ryzen 1000 vs a 5000 series, even better if you show up different frequencies too, that could help a lot with people who are on a tight budget.
Wow, I haven't seen a Soyo board in a very long time. The first PC I ever built back in the early 2000s was a Soyo board. Can't remember the exact model number, but it was an Intel P4 board with a VIA chipset, DDR400 and sold under the Dragon branding (mine was the Dragon Lite). But by the time I went to do a core upgrade a couple years later, they had all but disappeared from the market. So I was forced to look at other manufactures like Asus and MSI. Which was disappointing at the time because that Soyo board I had was rock solid.
I would love to see Soyo make a return to the motherboard market. We definitely need some more good competition to drag the market's current obscene motherboard prices, kicking and screaming back to sanity.
Didn't know Soyo was still around - they were popular in the mid 90's.
The hardware is the same as Maxsun B550M Terminator, although the BIOS is a little bit different. I am using the Maxsun B550M Terminator with R5 3600 OC 4200MHz.
How is it after all that time? You bought from AliExpress?
@@BillyPage1337 Work like a charm. Maxsun updates the BIOS after each Agesa release.
@@raymondxiao9121 people say it doesn't have hibernation but it's not that important for me. Others say bios settings reset after each PC power on, and with newer bios versions some problems occur. It costs not much and i may try it with r5 5500 or r5 5600.
@@BillyPage1337 I didn't encouter the BIOS reset issue. It does not have complete PBO2, but I don't use it. It's not my main desktop. For daily use PC, I personally recommend ASUS.
It's nice to see products on the cheaper end of the scale. It's good for budget folks to get to know what's out there and what real world performance (or lack thereof) to expect
I'm looking forward to the Soyo/Maxsun A620 boards.
I have the Maxsun version of that board, it is working well with an r5 5600 and rx 5700xt. I had to add a pwm fan hub though due to its shortage of pwm headers but that only cost me an extra 7 dollars so no big deal.
can you send me the link of the pwm fan hun ?
How is it going so far? Does CPU cooler fan rate is adjustable according to temperature?
@@BillyPage1337 The bios has a 3 settings for fan curve in response to CPU temperature, everything is running fine so far.
We need competition, thank you for bring such build to light. In today where GPU prices went crazy and a dwindling PC community due to PC prices.
7:30 XD LMAO
"SoYo think you can Dance?" was RIGHT there!!!!
I bought the Soyo B660m after your review of that a while back. Didn’t think Soyo still existed, but seems like they are selling Maxsun boards? It’s been great with the 12400. Would definitely buy another Soyo product if I was buying another i5 or r5 CPU.
Edit: And you’ve just said why they are selling Maxsun boards. 😂
Nice content , bought the motherboard after watching your videos. Could you do a video on how to use it’s features & overclocking the Ryzen cpu etc, what to tweak & what not to get the best performance? Novice here 😅
My first ever custom PC build was using a Soyo KT333 Dragon Ultra.
fun fact: that board fits in the jonsbo c2 AND you can pair it with one of the MLLSE/51risc rx 6600 cards which ALSO fit in that case -- banger of an itx system
Back in the 90s Soyo was huge dude. Wish Epox was back in the game again.
Ive not seen Soyo since 486 and Pentium 1,2 and 3 Era no idea they where still going same with Gainward and Biostar.
Awesome video!
I like teh choyneez writing on it too.
Back in 1999-2000 my p3 build had a soyo board, they were S tier back then afaik.
Agreed, though it would be somewhere inbetween ASUS and ABIT - I own three Slot1 mainboards - ASUS P2B, ABIT BE6-II, and the vast Soyo 6BA+IV. From all those three - the 6BA would be at the bottom end of the S tier, the ASUS would be in the middle, and the BE6-II is the top contender. That ABIT can do absolute marvels that the P2B and Soyo struggle. (for one, the Soyo refuses to run 133FSB, the P2B crashes absolutely nasty, while the ABIT has no issues doing it)
Awesome review.
I'm pretty sure my very first build in about 2000-2001 was with a SOYO Dragon motherboard. Athlon 1600XP with Antec Performance Series II case.
Is this motherboard compatible with g.skill sniper x 2x8gb kit? Thanks
Great content sir
I had a Soyo 486 board and p2 board that replaced a Abit board. I feel old lol.
hair looks great, maybe you can get sponser , "just for men"
Hey Brian. Great informative video as always. I have an off topic question however. During almost all of your parts hunt video you always say you have a hard limit when it comes to deals. Would you consider doing a video or even just put out a list for GPU pricing? I flip PC's here and there but I am always unsure as to whether I am overpaying for GPU's.
With all these deals/reviews for Aliexpress. Would you consider checking out the RX 6700 (non XT) from there? They're 279 there and even on Newegg from where I'm checking. At that price, that just sounds like amazing value for someone getting into 1440p max settings no problem.
Wait SOYO still exists? Haha I used to own a few boards here in the US i thought they’re gone.
the old soyo is gone, this is a Chinese brand that has little to do with the original besides the name.
@@endless2239 ahhhhh that makes sense
On the surface sounds like an 800% value. Been hard to find a cheap new AM4 board for cheap at times.
Interesting to see Soyo still around. they just don't have the presence in the US they once did.
I was literally just looking at the combo with this board and the 5600 for a friend in Kazakhstan. He's having serious trouble finding Zen 3 parts locally.
Funny I still have my soyo super socket 7 driver cd with the logo on it. Board is long gone but the cd remains.
Nice review. I am from Nigeria and the dollar to Naira rate is really killing (very bad) due to this I intend building a gaming PC with SOYO products.
PLEASE CAN U RECOMMEND A CASING THAT FITS WELL WITH SOYO MOTHERS BOARDS? CAN ANY GPU FIT IN THIS MOTHER BOARD? Please HELP
3:24 phew at least its not as power hungry as a 32 thread cpu. had me worried there
There is another Maxsun bargain out there; the MS-Terminator B760ITX D4 WIFI with an i5-13490f chip combo deal for AUD$470.
Soyo may be cheap, and unknown to some but these company made OG mobo's that were used back in the day 👍
thank Thanos - you always keep it Real
This motherboard is manufactured by Guangzhou Shangke Information Technology Co., who sold as MaxSun B550M Terminator and Soyo B550M Dragon.
A hardware seller in Brazil sold as Pichau Danuri B550M-PX - this version use ALC897 audio CODEC.
Shangke manufacture too Teclast tablets.
Uhm, PBO included? That's like the most important thing on am4. PBO on CPU setting with voltage curve -30 is king. Way better performance on still default powerdraw
You can get this board + R5 5600 for ~1100 CNY in China, which is about $155. Pretty good value, right?
How would the Soyo board compare to the Asrock B550M Pro 4 ?
I can get the Asrock board locally for only A$10 more than the Aliexpress Soyo prices, so much quicker delivery :)
Do you know if the audio is better on the Asrock Pro? It says it has Nahimic Audio, but that's just software isn't it?
Audio would be better on the asrock board. That's from personal testing, the VRM on the soyo would be quite similar. It's actually great for an aliexpress board.
@@techyescity Great! thanks so much for the reply. I'll grab that Asrock board then before they sell out.
Cheers!
I had a long day and read '750$ b550' and thought were already in the next Crisis... im scarred
Might want to check out the Superlux HD680 EVO for cheap headphones with very good sound. At least I think it's pretty good.
I picked up a combo deal from Micro center an i7 12700K for $299 and Asus Z690-A Prime for $70...the cheapest high-end mobo I ever purchased lol.
For all the Preppers, Why spend serious $$ on burying a Top Shelf motherboard in a faraday cage under the garage that you hope you'll never use. Wrap this baby up and you know its basic, but works.
It is now 110 CAD$ , while ASRock b550 is for 130!
Interesting results
Soyo was the bomb back in the day!
A88GM3 was a banger!
It still looks beautiful...
Do you think a Ryzen 7 5700x would be great on the soyo motherboard together with an RX 580?
Great video. I already bought this one, however i've just realized that the Dual Channel "mode" is not detected whenv alidating it in CPU-Z. Any clue here (i've bought 2 killsre RAMS at 3200 mhx)? Thanks in advance!
There's a mobo name I haven't heard in ages: Soyo. I had one way back and it was okay.
What are your thoughts about Gamersnexis complaining about their bios problems with the recent Asus boards nuking AMD CPU's.
Its good to see competion in the Motherboard marketplace. However the price difference, versus waiting 3 months for shipping, will probably put most people off, in most parts of the world.
one time i bought a phone it arrived in 15 days ...
FWIW...I bought a Soyo B450M Classic board from AliE on July 4th..it arrived in my place this morning [July 12th - their standard shipping...and yes in the past I waited for 2-3 months for items...but they seem well and truly over that issue now...running Time Spy Stress Test right now...seems like a decent board!
At least in the UK AliExpress shipping is often less than 2 weeks now. They've improved a lot the last couple of years, especially if you buy from one of the "Choice" stores with 11/12 days shipping. I've never had a parcel arrive late that specifies 11/12 days shipping.
Hi! nice vide.!!! I'm wondering, is there any "Resizeable Bar" for this Motherboard in the BIOS??
Yes
could you do a review on the JGINYUE X99 2011-3M-PLUS D4? been looking for a LGA2011-3 motherboard for i7-6800K, i7-5930K and i7-4820K budget builds but they are quite harder and more expensive to find without them being Dell or HP motherboards in the UK so looks like i gotta find decent cheap aliexpress motherboards to use instead if you have any tips :)
Here in Brazil there is a gap of BRL 200,00 between the Aorus Elite B550M(BRL 650,00) and the SOYO(BRL 440,00) would it be worthy of going for the Aorus for it's better BIOS?
If a320s weren’t so hit, and miss with the 5000 series they’d be a great deal.