Cirrus Aircraft for Private Pilot License ?
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Laurence Balter a Maui based Certified Flight Instructor discusses - How to earn the Private Pilot License and requirements set forth by the FAA.
These are the most frequently asked questions I get from student pilots seeking information on earning the Private Pilot License.
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What does it take to earn the Private Pilot License?
Should I train in a Cessna or a Cirrus?
How much is the Private Pilot License?
How long does the pilot license take?
What are the FAA requirements for the Private Pilot Rating?
Should I take the Private Pilot Ground School first?
Are there any flight training scholarships?
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I did it! I started my PPL in a Cessna 172 with a G1000 back in 2008. I clearly wanted the new avionics. After 4-5 lessons I realized that I didn’t want to fly a high wing plane and switched to continue my training in an SR20. I’m glad I did. Yes, things happened faster but I got used to it. When I was done I was only flying SR20s and quickly transitioned to an SR22T. Then got the instrument rating. Happy I did. Now 1100+ hrs, all in low wing planes.
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From my experience, if your long-term plan is to fly or own a Cirrus, then absolutely accrue as many hours as possible in one, including in the early stages of your training. As a business owner, I knew the cross-country capabilities of the Cirrus would suit my mission well, just the same as many of my colleagues.
I took my very first lesson in a 172, and immediately switched to Perspective-based SR20’s for the remainder of my training. It helped immensely when I went to get an aircraft loan and insurance and already had more than 100 hours time in frame.
For those who care: I also committed to the insurance company to fly accompanied in my plane while I finished my IFR rating and that helped with premiums quite a bit.
As someone who did private pilot training in cirrus aircraft -- first an sr20 and then an sr22 -- I'm glad I did. I had no desire to fly in an ancient aircraft with ancient technology. Just be prepared for more hours, more money, and a steeper learning curve (ie, it'll require more patience). They're not common as training aircraft because they're more expensive in every way, they are faster, and they require cirrus certified training personnel on staff (also more expensive) and the training in the aircraft is much more standardized. For me, that last piece -- the caliber and standardization of training -- was a critical input. You're simply not going to find many (any??) 350 hour CSIPs that are instructing because they're trying to build hours for their airline ticket. The CSIPs I've trained with have all been former military, ATP pilots, and GA enthusiasts with thousands of hours.
Like most things, there's not a one size fits all. I didn't struggle with the speed and staying ahead of the airplane. Compared to motorcycle racing, the rate at which inputs are coming frankly feels downright leisurely. But some folks do and would be better suited to the slower speeds of something slower. And, look, if you spend your day pushing buttons/are tech-friendly, then a cirrus may feel an awful lot more logical than a 6-pack. But if you find yourself overwhelmed by the technology in your car or home, then training in a cirrus may not be right for you. Just be honest with what (capabilities, baggage, interests, etc) you're bringing to training, and with your mission after you get your private. There are lots of right answers out there...
We have schools in Texas with people knocking their private out in 45 days or less in the Cirrus. Using the sim to get them familiar with the checklist, buttonology (its now a word), startup, and comms. Not cheap, but hella more comfortable then the 172. If you can’t make it out to HI, come check us out at Charlie Black Aviation. Keep up the good work Laurence, my wife says we need to move out there to give you a hand. Lima Bravo for the win, coolest flight of my career.
Awesome ! Thanks so much Kevin.
What school? I couldnt find charlie black aviation. Interested in flying cirrus. Have 40 hours and all else done to complete ppl. Thanks.
My guess is about 70-120 hours in a cirrus to get your PPL if accounting for taking time off and maybe 70-90 if flying 2 or so times a week consistently
I'm in a cirrus SR20 working on my PPL and eventually commerical. In the same plane/school
Well said. Agree 100%.
Quick answer: No. Train in a basic 172. Then maybe fly a cirrus. The problem is that a 172 is closest handling to other aircraft. And it shows how you can maybe save the landing gear? The cirrus is from what I've seen a good floater. Hell I've thermaled a 172 once. If that can do it so can a cirrus, don't pull the parachute unless your wing falls off or something like that.
I am planning to get my PPL in a cirrus too.
If you don't already own a Cirrus it makes little sense to train in one. The only real reason is the extra safety element offered by the chute. But the cost, sophistication, speed, and complexity of the aircraft compared to cheaper, slower, less complicated aircraft like an SLSA or a Cessna 172 make it a poor private pilot training idea.
It’s not extra safety. It’s because they have to. This airplane cannot recover from spin! Cirrus has to have parachute to avoid spin recovery test
@@dailydose273 False and ignorant. Cirrus pass EASA (European) certification demonstrating full spin testing.
Just curious can you take a private pilot's license on a twin-engine aircraft? Such as DA62? Thanks.
Yes
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Great info. Can you tell me what makes the Cirrus more challenging to fly than a 172 or warrior etc ??
It’s not. The Navy teaches pilots in complex aircraft from day one it’s how quick you can pick it up.
@@artistwithcameras ok thank you
The cirrus is not a good training aircraft. Personally i think it should be illegal. What makes the cirrus more challenging is it’s inability to recover from a stall. That’s why they could not be certified without a parachute. As for the other guy here trying to compare the navy to civilian training really should consider a better example
@@bradwernke2770 Yes, since watching this video I spoke with a senior instructor from the local university training facility who advised me to steer clear of Cirrus as far as initial training goes.
@@spiro5327 glad you did some research and spoke to someone. They are not bad aircraft, just not something you want to start off in. Certain characteristics are not forgiving. I’ve been a professional pilot now for 16 years and it’s amazing what some are willing to say to convince people just to make money.
Now should I get my Instrument rating in a Cirrus? 🤔
That's my next goal too
I'd say commercial is a good time to dive into a Cirrus. By that point you know the rules of flying, and are learning to fly more complex aircraft and advance maneuvers as well as master your aeronautical decision making skills in a employment environment. Flying something like a Cirrus in this type of environment will enrichen your course and help you get more out of your commercial license as opposed to just flying a Cessna again. Besides, most commercial environments usually fly something more powerful, advanced, and more complex than a Cessna 172.
They are great aircraft, but that is too much airplane for a student, there is no advantage to spending twice as much, the SR 22 is less forgiving.
Ground school wow 👀
To require to get your license is money
Well the question was a Cirrus aircraft for private pilot license? For that question a big fat NO. But for instrument or anything higher obviously yes.
I would ask, why no. Not much different from a zero experience pilot starting training in a T-6 Texan II.
That's like saying should I get my driver's license in a Mercedes-Benz. You can do it, just not recommended.
Whats up with this thumbnail? Lol
meaty globular flange in the armpit and crotch region? Try a milligrams insertion through rectal passage.
Inside the first minute: “ … and it’s really easy to fly!”
No bro, it isn’t. The Cirrus is a lot of things, but if it was REALLY easy to fly it would be in flight schools everywhere as an ab initio trainer, everywhere.
BTW, training a new student ab initio in an SR22T.
Let’s ride in a cirrus and recover from a spin?
Should you begin pilot training in a cirrus? Absolutely NOT. The cirrus gets a lot of hype. It’s not a good aircraft for any type of training. Personally I think it should be illegal. even if you own it, you should do your training in something more safe and then move on to learning this aircraft AFTER you earn your certificate and have built some flight time. The cirrus is not an aircraft for beginners and anyone that says otherwise doesn’t know their ass from the elbow
Then the United States Air Force Academy must not know a thing ? They use it in primary training and so do many military academies around the globe. As well as some AB initio airline programs like Emirates and Singapore airlines and ANA Japan
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Spin to death for students
@@artistwithcameras zzz so you’re trying to compare the US military and it’s training to civilian training? That’s not even apples to oranges
It’s not a license ! It’s a “certificate “