HOW WAS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE? || The UNREAL Olympic Final That SHOOK THE WORLD
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- Опубліковано 12 кві 2021
- The story of Joaquim Cruz is one of the most inspirational to ever occur. Born into deep poverty in an industrial town in Southern Brazil, Cruz took to the track at very young age and showed amazing results. At just 15, he had already run a 1:51 for the 800 meters, and by 18, he had broken the world junior record, running a time of 1:44.30 seconds. 2 years later, he had great success at the University of Oregon in 1983, winning the 800 meters in dominant fashion. After a stellar showing at the World Championships, the 20-year-old Cruz achieved a bronze medal at his very first international championships, however, just 1 year later in 1984, he would emerge as one of the all-time greats in his event, running some of the most unbelievable races in the history of the 800.
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Joaquim never had to run all out in his races. He just stayed in... CRUZ control.
Narf!
gay
@@msport_erick Tyson
@HB Net You know track history.
@HB Net okay okay calm down Gentlemen I am here to take down the stats
I'm a USA Paralympic track athlete and CRUZ is my coach, and let me tell you he is the coolest dude you will ever meet
Very humble guy!
R u doing Tokyo this Yr, I watch all athletes, but paralympians inspire me the most, you have 1 hell of a coach, I hope you are there, I will keep an eye out for you, good luck
Where do you train? How long has he been your coach? What’s the training like I’m super curious
@Tanner Wright I just put a link off your page in the stream, was that you, your fast, if that's a finish to your 800,maaan your fast, man with stopwatch I can't tell if it's cruz, why do they nt let you post a link on ere
Wow that's awesome, I wish you all the best too.
Man, I just love hearing these stories of runners I've never heard of before but who were complete badasses. Those who break the world record often get recognized the most, so it's refreshing to hear of incredible accomplishments outside of world records.
It’s amazing. I’d love a video on Billy Mills who’s sort of an under looked runner as well
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Cruz has two olympic medals. He got a silver in 1988.
@@fernandob.sabinodasilva5043 I was referring to world records, not Olympic medals.
Never heard of them? Track was more popular back then. Coe v Ovett was international news in 1979 and 1980. Coe and hicham el guerrouj are the best middle distance of all time. You’ve heard of Alberto Juantorena?
It's really awesome how you manage to get all the video footage from 30+ years ago.
Facts. I I love watching old track videos and hadnt seen half of these
@@landonboomsma2594 Same. It's very interesting
Knowledge is power
Joaquim Cruz is the inspiration for many Brazilian runners.
Thank you for posting.
Coe was sick in 1982 and 83 with glandular fever and later toxoplasmosis. In 1984 he didn’t start running till January and was very slowly getting fit and wasn’t even the best in his country at 1500m, Peter Elliot beat him in a UK meet at crystal palace in June. 2 months later at the Olympics Coe was struggling to regain his 81 form actually by accounts in his book seb Coe coming back said” he used the 4 rounds of the 800m to get fit for his now main event the 1500m, which he retained and is the only man to win back to back 1500m titles at Olympics.Coe is the only man under 1.42 for 800m and 3.30 1500m. Only man to hold 800m, 1500m 1000m and mile WRs all together. He had a long international career from 77 to 1990. Cruz was phenomenal in 1984 just in his purple patch and put together 4 very fast olympic 800m heats semis and final. He was unmatched at the Los Angeles Olympics. I saw him run live on the TV. Cruz had injuries but made the Olympic 800m final in 1988 and came second winning the silver. After this very mixed results. Cruz with the right training and track shoes was capable of a sub 1.41 as Coe was also.
It is amazing that someone could run the final 100 meters in 11.3 seconds after such a long distance and brutal pace.
I call BS.
@@69ssj yes how many Olympic golds have you run
That 11.3 sounds insane after all that running. That's fast. 11 secs is fast as hell in H.S
@@MadSUPANOVA right?! It's difficult to believe. This guy must've been superman.
@Len Donnelly Understood, but this wasn't a 200 or even a 400 meter race. To find that closing speed during an 800 is what I was getting at.
I met Sebastian once as he came to my high school and they commemorated it with a plaque. I didn't know it at the time but watching these videos puts into perspective just how great of a middle distance runner he was
he also visited my school and was a smarmy prick lol he was on more testosterone than an entire WWE roster, he had the drug testing fridges with the samples destroyed at the 1980/84 olympics and then suddenly retired as people were getting caught, he was responsible for the smear campaign against Justin Gatlin by the BBC 2012-2016 while hyping up one of the sports biggest PED users Usain Bolt. Its the corruption and dishonesty I hate about him
@@cattycats4 planet earth speaking. Come back down
Regrettably, they don't show his ugliness to Caster Semenya!
In 1984 I was in Eugene for training and I saw Cruz and his friend Barbosa doing uphill repeats. The results you showed us but since then I do once a week an uphill interval
Jose Luis Barbosa was also a great racer and favorite here in Eugene.
The Greatest Brazilian Runner of all time... Olympic hero
You can put him in greatest runner of all time period conversations
@@theoneaboveall6768 I can't believe I never heard of this Legend. I must have and didn't knw. Of course Coe and Johnny Gray and many others I knw. I started off learning about Prefontaine in Grade school. All this time I should ha been watching Cruz!!!
I was a kid, saw his gold medal live on TV.
He was like a super hero at my childish eyes.
As a brazilian I still love to watch Joaquim Cruz and Robson Caetano (1988, 100m/200m) olympic finals.
@@viniciuscalvet545 heck I'm grown and have my own family and I believe he is. We have real HEROES here. We and they just don't always realize. I bet this man has made a huge impact on sio many young people's lives.
Cruz .... Brazilian olimpic hero
Grande Joaquim Cruz, herói olímpico 🇧🇷🇧🇷
Con certeza
I was at the race that day with a view of the runners coming into the final turn. I was fully expecting Coe to win, but Cruz showed such power and control through that turn that it was clear he would not be beaten. Unforgettable.
Wow 😯
Coe was sick in 1982 and 83 with glandular fever and later toxoplasmosis. In 1984 he didn’t start running till January and was very slowly getting fit and wasn’t even the best in his country at 1500m, Peter Elliot beat him in a UK meet at crystal palace in June. 2 months later at the Olympics Coe was struggling to regain his 81 form actually by accounts in his book seb Coe coming back said” he used the 4 rounds of the 800m to get fit for his now main event the 1500m, which he retained and is the only man to win back to back 1500m titles at Olympics.Coe is the only man under 1.42 for 800m and 3.30 1500m. Only man to hold 800m, 1500m 1000m and mile WRs all together. He had a long international career from 77 to 1990. Cruz was phenomenal in 1984 just in his purple patch and put together 4 very fast olympic 800m heats semis and final. He was unmatched at the Los Angeles Olympics. I saw him run live on the TV. Cruz had injuries but made the Olympic 800m final in 1988 and came second winning the silver. After this very mixed results. Cruz with the right training and track shoes was capable of a sub 1.41 as Coe was also.
At the U of O in 1983 I made friends with a nice woman from Brazil - one day while having coffee near the University she showed up with another friend from Brazil - Joaquim Cruz! I was a bit nervous to speak with him, but he was a nice guy.
I remember the 800 in Los Angeles. When he & Coe kicked you could just see it was Cruz's time. His stride length was unbelievable
It's amazing how you can keep my attention for so long without boring me.
I lived in Oregon training for the Olympic trials in 84; he trained harder than anyone I had ever seen.
Harder then Pre?
Baker didn't claim to have seen Pre train. Besides, Pre had been dead for more than 15 years, how many people actually saw both train and have the knowledge to compare 2 training techniques ?
Lovr from a Brazilian who was inspired by Cruz to become a runner🤩
Everyday T.R.P posts a new video is a good day!
I had the privilege to see him in person once running across a football field. I just happened to be there. Even in his informal warm up run he looked totally majestic. He is a running legend no doubt.
Thank you very much for the amazing report. Joaquim Cruz was one of the greatest... ever seen
Great chronicle of one of the most natural talents to race. A runner we wish we saw more of.
Amazingly this was all at the age of just 21.
Yes, somehow, his career was not the same after the 1984 season. There was success, no doubt, but not really at the same level nor for long. Apparently injuries took a toll on this brilliant talent.
scouter3000 it’s hard to maintain that level of success due to motivation I mean the guy had done it all and he was barely legal age drinking in usa
@@theoneaboveall6768 this was all about injury. He had the heart of a fierce competitor. He wasn’t just a medal chaser, he was a racer too. This wasn’t about motivation at all.
They make that seem amazing but John Marshall from the USA was also 21 in 1984 in that race.
I used to watch other T&F videos but since watching yours over the last year or two I don't even bother to watch other T&F videos. Phenomenal content, every single time.
So good to see fellow Brazilian heroes in athletics that are reference in the sport
Keep up the good work man you’re fueling the sport’s history
Seriously one of the best channels on UA-cam. Hands down...
This was awesome! You need to do a part two for how his career went from here. Keep up the great work!
Yeah this made you really wonder what happened after this and why this was his peak att such young age.
@@GunsNRoses1123 💯💯💯
Damn what great piece of 800 history.!!!!!!!!!!!!
These videos are both very informative and entertaining
Has anyone else noticed that TRP’s views have skyrocketed lately? Proud of you, man🙌
This channel made me fall in love with running.
Sua carreira foi breve, mas intensa. Nenhum outro brasileiro chegou perto dos seus feitos nas pistas de atletismo
Cover the legendary long-awaited 1500m clash between Coe and Ovett in Moscow (Olympics). It’s the story everyone should know about and was even more popular than this showdown at that time.
The build up itself towards what was about to happen in the games was tremendously remarkable.
I remember all that. It was exciting.
I'm not even Brazilian or English, but I still remember that final. Nobody saw Cruz coming. What a fantastic performance.
Actually, many who followed Cruz's exploits as a junior and at the U of O considered him the favorite. Coe was just coming back from a long illness, and Ovett hadn't run well recently either.
I would imagine that he was expected to run even faster in the future. To peak at 21 is unusual at this level of the sport. Maybe he suffered injuries. It would be interesting to find out more about this incredible athlete.
He still managed to get the silver medal at 800m in 88 Olympic games, even suffering with injuries.
@@gabrielgouveia2042 Sure, but unfortunately after 1985 (when he was only 22), the Seoul silver was the only major medal in World level competition.
Yeah what happened after? I need his life story
@@anassorbestiak Coe was sick in 1982 and 83 with glandular fever and later toxoplasmosis. In 1984 he didn’t start running till January and was very slowly getting fit and wasn’t even the best in his country at 1500m, Peter Elliot beat him in a UK meet at crystal palace in June. 2 months later at the Olympics Coe was struggling to regain his 81 form actually by accounts in his book seb Coe coming back said” he used the 4 rounds of the 800m to get fit for his now main event the 1500m, which he retained and is the only man to win back to back 1500m titles at Olympics.Coe is the only man under 1.42 for 800m and 3.30 1500m. Only man to hold 800m, 1500m 1000m and mile WRs all together. He had a long international career from 77 to 1990. Cruz was phenomenal in 1984 just in his purple patch and put together 4 very fast olympic 800m heats semis and final. He was unmatched at the Los Angeles Olympics. I saw him run live on the TV. Cruz had lots of injuries but made the Olympic 800m final in 1988 and came second winning the silver. After this very mixed results. In 1996 Cruz ran in Atlanta in the 1500m but didn’t make the final. Cruz with the right training and track shoes was capable of a sub 1.41 as Coe was also.
He had achilles tendon injuries and was never able to run that fast after Seoul 1988
I think Coe once said something like “If you train long and slow, you race long and slow.”
Just three months before I was born. Good company in Oregon.
TRP. Another fantastic, professional quality, video. Many thanks. Cheers.
Great video! This was a fantastic watch
Very well done video! Wow what a runner.
I can't imagine how hard it must be to know you were 0.04 seconds away from a world record. I would probably lie awake so many nights thinking "what if"
Total Running Productions, how about something on Marcello Fiasconaro, great south African, Italian 400m, 800 m runner of 70s. World record holder 800m , 1973. You can see him being interviewed on you tube and telling his fascinating story of going from rugby to athletics. Most of your subscribers probably have never heard of him, it would make a great story.
His stride is something else.
It's like he does the 800m in 4 strides!!!
Very nice. It goes to show how the unexpected can happen out of nowhere
I remember the 1984 Olympic 800 finals vividly. Cruz and Coe cost me a Big Mac and I had to settle for a Coca Cola. That day is still etched in my memory.
Thank you for introducing me to view his truly great runner! Bravo young man. Well, about 58 now! Still young to me. I'm 67.
Love this! Just a quick fact-check, one other runner has done the 800-1500 double at NCAAs since then; Cruz's fellow Duck, Andrew Wheating, did it in 2010.
What a stride he had. Was wonderful growing up in Eugene and getting to see him shine as a Duck. One of my favorite Ducks ever.
Never heard of this legend before this is why I love this channel
Cruz is the GOAT of brazilian track and field... He even got a silver medal in the 88 olympics.
Coe was sick in 1982 and 83 with glandular fever and later toxoplasmosis. In 1984 he didn’t start running till January and was very slowly getting fit and wasn’t even the best in his country at 1500m, Peter Elliot beat him in a UK meet at crystal palace in June. 2 months later at the Olympics Coe was struggling to regain his 81 form actually by accounts in his book seb Coe coming back said” he used the 4 rounds of the 800m to get fit for his now main event the 1500m, which he retained and is the only man to win back to back 1500m titles at Olympics.Coe is the only man under 1.42 for 800m and 3.30 1500m. Only man to hold 800m, 1500m 1000m and mile WRs all together. He had a long international career from 77 to 1990. Cruz was phenomenal in 1984 just in his purple patch and put together 4 very fast olympic 800m heats semis and final. He was unmatched at the Los Angeles Olympics. I saw him run live on the TV. Cruz had injuries but made the Olympic 800m final in 1988 and came second winning the silver. After this very mixed results. Cruz with the right training and track shoes was capable of a sub 1.41 as Coe was also.
Excellent presentation. You did justice for this pheomenal runner.
Obviously..Ur channel is best 🔥🔥❤️
This guy is an outstanding narrator.
This is literally 1984
i love the footage. ty x
Really love your narrative style. Similar to Summoning Salts, as in creating extreme curiosity to know what happened till the end. Keep up the great content as always.
Thanks for the Cruz history.
Those strides where LOOOOOOOONG
Awesome video, enjoyed that👍
People that dislike are just jealous that they can’t run that fast
Please please please make a playlist with all your background songs they are fiiiiire !
Super video with so much details and facts , well done.
Great job telling another compelling story
I remember Cruz being much like Rudisha, he just flat-out ran away from everyone. However, to me, Coe is still the best ever middle Distance runner.
Hincham el guerrouj?
Hicham
Coe is undoubtedly the best 800/1500 runner in history. He got two Olympic golds in his "weakest" event. He's the only person ever to go sub-1:42 and sub-3:30.
Rudisha and Kipketer have gone faster than Coe in the 800m, and Amos has gone as fast. But none of those guys are even remotely close to Coe's 1500/mile times/capacity. At one point he was the only guy to ever go sub-1:42 AND sub-1:43. And he's the only guy who has defended an Olympic gold in the 1500m. El G is obviously a better 1500m/mile -runner, but when it comes to the 800m AND 1500m/mile, Coe simply takes the cake.
Awesome video. Thanks for posting.
I had never heard of this legend!
Love this channel
Joaquim Cruz is awesome and a great guy.
Great work again !
loved this video, thankyou
Fantastic Video!
Loved it! Nice video
Almost 200k! Nice work 👍🏼
My dads friend told me about him I took more research and now I have huge appreciation for him
Great Video!!
Fabulous stuff TRP and great footage most of which I had never seen. Cruz's 800m Olympic victory was the only race I remember watching of the 84 Olympics as a youngster, and needless to say a couple of years later I took up 800m running myself in high school. Cruz's sensational 1984 season was one for the record books and might have had my vote for the GOAT honours if not for King David himself. Thank you for this great and nostalgic content.
Great! Being a Brit I'm reasonably aware of Coe and Ovett, but Cruz is totally new for me. Great athlete!
Amazing research on one of the 800m goats. Congratulations.
I saw Coe at the 84 olympic finish line after he just won the gold medal performance and he yelled out finally!
Wow mike 👍
I don't know where those figures for the fastest 800m times in 1983 came from, but Cram ran 1.43.61 in Oslo that year. As for the '84 Olympics, Cruz was absolutely on fire that year and would have been very hard to beat for even a super fit Coe. But there's no mention of Coe's injuries leading up to the Olympics here - he was training with 14 and 15 year olds in January of that year after a long illness. It would have been interesting to see how well he would have run had he been fully fit. Also, no mention of Ovett being crippled by asthma - he had to throw himself over the line to qualify for the final because he could barely breathe owing to the smog. Those points aside, Cruz managed to consistently run under 1.43 that year and was the first athlete to do that. He raised the bar again and it was a real shame he didn't get back to his '84 and '85 form after injury.
Thank you very much! Greetings from Brazil!! One of the greatest athletes from Brazil. But I want to watch an episode about Ademar Ferreira da Silva (triple jumper). Could you?
I remember reading at the time that one of his training "secrets" was holding his breath while doing intervals.
this post is awesome
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I was at Portland State University in1984, and Cruz was bigger than football and basketball players. Steve Prefontaine was bigger in Oregon than Michael Jordan. Back then, track and field in the US was still a mainstream event along with boxing.
Could you do eamonn coghlan from Ireland next vid iconic 5k would make a good video
I immediately knew who this was about after seeing the thumbnail
gotta say from a stylistic viewpoint he looked overbalanced forward and a wild arm swing but it clearly worked well for him, thx again for another great and informative video
Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz!
I saw Cruz at U of O when I was a student there. I was not surprised at all to see him win gold in LA. Once a Duck, always a Duck!
Love this!
Cruz was s BEAST 👹
TRP - I love your narration ! And you bring together the material very well. I hope you make some money from this channel
There's a Cruz story about him running on a broken ankle.. Love to hear this!
The stride length of cruz is such if you saw it on beach sand , you'd think it was an alien. Juantorena (the horse) was the same, enormous
Truly a legend. Only at 21 years old
Those huge strides
Very interesting
Fantastic coverage of a memorable race. I must say though, at 5:11 in the vid -- "Against all odds" . . . not necessarily. By the time of that 800m Oly Final, Cruz was a pretty heavy favorite. Coe's 2nd-place finish was somewhat of a surprise to many, due to his missing quite a bit of training and competition throughout '82 and '83.
4:45 WHAT!!! NO!!! THAT'S CRAZY!!! THAT'S THE CLOSING SPEED FOR 400M RUNNERS!!! GET OUT OF HERE!!!
No, the last 100 of 400 is slower.