Mom Jeans - Emo's Most HATED Loved Band
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Mom Jeans - Emo's Most HATED Loved Band
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There's this emo band called Mom Jeans. that a lot of people know about and like.. but also dislike.. but also probably still listen to them haha.
There's a whole lot to talk about with this band and I packed in as much as I could. If there's a facet or area you'd want me to zero in on and make another Mom Jeans video, I'd be down. Just tell me. I really do care about what you all have to think.
Mom Jeans blew up pretty fast after releasing their debut album Best Buds and it's been a steady upward trajectory ever since. Puppy Love felt underwhelming to me, but I'm interested to see what Sweet Tooth will sound like.
But yeah, I talk about a whole lot in the video, such as the recent Bart stuff and how they took a lot of inspiration from that Modern Baseball song haha. Love you all, I'll see you in the video.
Dang, it's almost Friday again already. Hope everyone has a safe, fun upcoming weekend.
-Nate
Overall thoughts on Mom Jeans?
Hmu on the twitta @camerahat
Nate The Mate good band that ruined their career
I like the sister projects more at this point. I really think diving in on just friends would be a good idea. Their two albums are completely different in some ways. The live performance is unreal. Also prince daddy, natural flavor, loudmouth, snooze, grad life, etc. there’s a lot
I'm just a casual fan, I think they're fun
stop using my shit in your videos
Michael Oppmann they’re truly crafting their own little cult in the emo community haah
As someone not involved in online emo culture whatsoever, I had absolutely no idea people actively disliked this band.
me too
I had no idea anyone hated them. I can't conceive of someone hating such a great band.
it’s like people have differing opinions
for me i just think they're boring
they’re racist so...
@@sixheadedboy it's perfectly fine to have a different opinion but when you have a band putting forth music in a no offense manner it's kind of hard to justify such a visceral reaction to them. Like if your saying they are boring and just another emo band that isn't hatred it's indifference. If your saying they are racists then I can see where your coming from.
Now comes the question of are they putting forth music in a no offensive manner. Idk I don't give enough of a shit to find out but I enjoy the couple songs I've heard from them.
@@dnkmarci do you have Proof ?
Gonna be honest, this is the type of “cancelling” that leads to people not taking actually heinous accusations seriously
THANKYOU
Them trying to cancel bart for a thing he did when he was a freshman is just insane. He's a super nice guy now he's changed.
I was such a fart-faced kid my freshman year hahaha.
I can’t think of one person who hasn’t changed and grown since their freshman year
I know for sure everyone would hate me if I was online in my freshman year. I was horrible
Yeah, honestly Bart has helped me with stuff musically before and has always been open to having a conversation and i just find it really really fucked that he got cancelled over shit that happened when he was a kid.
Honestly facts !! I was such a bitch at 14. Who wasn’t a bitch at 14? 6-9 grade is when people are at their absolute worst.
It wasn't the fact that he did something in freshman year exactly it was the fact that he didn't own up to it. He tried to claim all of it was a lie.
Dude.... You can't just play it's cold out here without warning. That song twinkles my daddies
@Ivette Ibarra basic
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Dude.... You can't just play it's cold out here without warning. That song twinkles my daddies
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Several things:
- they’ve addressed their early stuff and admitted that yes it was mobo rip off but they don’t try to profit off of it, just trying to learn how to play together, experimenting with writing lyrics. It’s not available for purchase or streaming that benefits them.
- i’ve never seen them be anything but super supportive of marginalized groups. There are interviews where they speak about their own privilege and how they use that to promote women/lgbt+/poc in the scene.
- the whole bart situation is absolutely fucked I really don’t think that he should have been crucified for acting immaturely as a literal child. The girl who accused him was also exposed for participating in harmful behavior herself recently. I really hope he continues in the music industry because I honestly believe that he is a good person.
- This band has my support and they probably always will they mean a lot to me personally, and other people in my life. Every interaction i’ve had with them and their team has been awesome and genuine.
Preach, especially about the accusations against him. It was all very high school and felt like that individual just had a personal bad experience with him that lead them to take that action.
every band in cirecs consist of some of the nicest ppl ever
yep first show i ever went to in Minneapolis of theirs was an awesome experience. Guys stayed after the show to take pictures and chat. super nice dudes
Amazing take dude
Trannies are not marginalized. They are the most overrepresented group in America today.
As soon as the video hit me with the death cup riff I knew I have to watch
Death Cup will go down as a legendary emo anthem I swear haha
Imagine trying to cancel someone for being a bully when they were 14-15, that being 10 years ago. You're just looking for attention and validation at that point, nothing else.
the irony at 6:43 is incredible because that one chord movement makes up more than half of all midwestern-inspired emo music. Basically anything off Sports and most of YGMIA uses the maj9 or maj7 of the IV chord. Most songs from the first American Football album use that. Most songs from DIARY use that chord. Foxing, The World Is a Beautiful Place, Sorority Noise, Marietta, The Hotelier, The Front Bottoms ALL use that chord frequently. If you wanted you could make a compilation of that chord appearing in popular emo songs and it would be several hours long. Its musical characteristics make it fit perfectly with the themes of a lot of emo songs, so much so that it is almost an integral part of emo harmony. It’s so popular that this single chord is increasingly used in surrounding genres like more pop punk style emo, heavier / hardcore stuff like Dogleg etc, and indie rock bands like car seat headrest going for that sound. So to see people attack them “as a musician” for having a common characteristic of the genre is so ridiculous, it’s literally the equivalent of saying “I hate Modern Baseball because all their lyrics are about feelings and relationships and stuff”.
same thing could be said with the rhythms too, where it's like they anticipate the end of the first measure and then complement it with syncopation. it would be cool to see a band use more niche chords and extensions in their music, especially acting as counterpoint to a melody
Yeah I agree. I can understand the frustration with Puppy Love being pretty much more of the same, but Best Buds has quite a bit of variety between all the songs even if they rely heavily on the same cadd9 to open g chord. Also the bass work on the first album is great at filling out the mix as a trio at the time (see the breakdown on Girl Scout Cookies).
Two Bears High Fiving it’s crazy how bass can be such an adored part of so many other rock genres but given so little praise or attention in a lot of guitar driven emo music. best buds does have some great bass AND drums on nearly every track
You get it
Thanks man! Now I have 6 chords to play with!
That's it. I'm starting a skramz band called Nice Family, first EP will be Dinner table, track list will be "Pass the Salt", "Ride the gravey train", "Corny like my cob," and the big 8 minute post rock inspired epic closer "Cold Turkey"
Edit: I forgot the spoke word interlude between tracks 3 and 4. That'll be a spoken word retrospective on my first stay in the mental ward called "we should've just ordered pizza"
I would totally listen to that.
100% would listen
@ me before that pops off
They're all so good please make this someone lmao
cold turkey sounds like its gonna be a rip-off of cold raviolis
Let's just smoke a bowl and talk about this later
I didn’t want it to end..
I just want to watch the office and turn in early
Tommy Bool tomorrow morning is a whole new fucking problem
Love y'all
Chris Steeley have a good day dude
Hey about their old songs: Im pretty sure they've addressed this in the past. They wanted to start writing songs but were bad at it so when they first started writing, they just ripped off MOBO and TFB (Basically took riffs and melodies to write their own lyrics over). It was not supposed to be serious and they definitely didn't think people would listen. When MOBO caught wind of it and weren't happy, MJ took the songs down.
if a band wants to profit off the music they make. They'll post it on streaming services and advertise it on their socials. The only way to find these old MJ songs is to search up UA-cam and listen to them on an account unrelated to MJ. They don't want to profit off this music anymore.
What's kinda wierd is why is the album public in the first place, but at the end of the day, musicians get inspired from the music of others. People develop their sounds differently, whether its building one from scratch, using already existing techniques, or morphing the sound of someone else to their liking.
That makes sense to me, music inspires music and you have to start somewhere. I'm sure they didn't even really think a lot of people , let alone Modern Baseball, were going to hear that song.
People try to meme and shout "PLAY JORTS" at shows and Eric usually responds "never gonna happen" they're really trying to bury it
They definitely did the right thing because they don't have any of their old songs on Spotify. If they washed to make money off it, they would (bc my dumbass would listen). + they had to start somewhere. They're not profiting and not claiming originality, I say that's more than most celebrities nowadays would do
ngl that first mom jeans album is one of the best and strongest examples of hooky emo music. every song is memorable and catchy like the level of songwriting is beyond most bands from the third wave and is way better than it deserves to be.
This is correct
Mom jeans helped me through a lot of stuff, and were pretty much the only band I was able to listen to while I was in rehab recovering from addiction, so they'll always have a special place in my heart. And personally I really dig their corny lyrics, like you said it makes them so much more genuine and real. It really bothers me that Bart was kicked out for something he did when he was 15, like c'mon dude we all did crappy stuff when we were young, but nobody deserves to suffer for their whole lives because of it. Sad to see so many people that enjoy watching others suffer, instead of prosper.
Also, such a great video dude. I really enjoy your positive vibes! I still really wish I could sit down with you and just talk about music. No one i know has the same passion for emo music as i do, and its such a bummer.
I saw Mom Jeans last year in April, and Bart looked broken during the show. I know he really struggles a lot with mental health issues, and it's pretty apparent he uses music to cope. When he was accused of some shitty things he said over a decade ago and he took a step away from Mom Jeans, just after Covid cancelled the Grad Life tour, I really have to feel sorry for him. It seems like he lost so much that meant so much to him at a really bad time. I hope he's doing well.
waiting on Nice Family’s highly anticipated “Dinner Table”
Niiice Family*
Album gonna be 🔥🔥🔥 bruh!
same!
I'm part of a few emo groups on facebook and they all seem to hate on Mom Jeans cause it's cool or cause they're "problematic". Personally i just don't like the vocals but as for the accusation stuff. He was 14/15 i'm sure he's a completely different person now. Everyone does something shitty at the age. The problem with cancel culture is people instantly believe whatever twitter post with 0 evidance. Then they ruin someone career based on something that might not even be true. Look at Sorority Noise. There was an update on Camerons situations saying the girl who made acusations was pressured into liying to kill his career.
Wait where did you hear the update about the Sorority Noise situation if you remember?
@@eris.mp4 uproxx.com/music/sorority-noise-sexual-assault-allegations/ was also updated on Old Grey's wiki not too long ago but no one reported this. Similar thing happened to Hobo Johnson.
ThatBlindGuy247 ah I see, thank you!
@@eris.mp4 i only heard of them this year and got really into them so i had to look it up and found that. I hope they come back but it doesn't look like it'll be anytime soon
I dont think they'll be coming back anytime soon, but I think Cameron took it maturely. It's not a bad thing If he realized some personal stuff though. Its good to give himself some room for growth & take care of himself. Maybe he realized he should change some things for the betterment of himself and others? Maybe one day he'll be ready to come back.
I love how you start every video with fantano
Thank you ahahaah
What's the original clip of?
@@Nauseousrap Fantano‘s first impression of Good News by Mac Miller I’m pretty sure
tbfh, what bart was accused of isn't even that bad...y'all act like most teenagers aren't mean...well they are. Teenagers are drama oriented and we all grow out of it and realize how stupid it is and I am fairly certain the people that are super angry at Bart are young adults/teenagers. just my opinion tho
Yeah seriously we’ve all made mistakes, crucifying Bart for being what any teenager would’ve been in their teenage years is a bit overkill. Not justifying his actions, but honestly mom jeans has brought so much life to me in my early college years. Hope we can get through this. Much love - John L.
Happy someone else said it. Its not bad at all. People need to grow the fuck up
Stone Cutter agreed. Shit happens man. Words are just words.
agreed. I’m not for supporting abusers but I don’t think the stuff Bart is accused of doing when he was 15 is worthy of that title
@@rileytanner4476 im not proud of it but i was kind of a little shit when i was younger. born 1995, grew up with Jackass and stupid shit like that. makes me feel old but we just weren't as sensitive back then, but we were also a lot more ignorant. i cringe at some things i did/said as a kid, like everubody else. As long as you want to change with the times i think youre respectable.
So he left the band because he "bullied" someone in highschool. People are too sensitive especially in the emo scene, but I guess that's kind of fitting.
yeah, it is emo after all lol
"Too sensitive", you mean too empathetic? I have no empathy for people that have no empathy.
@@jacobwojtowicz9638 You are such a patron saint of altruism and respect towards others, wish we could all be like you. Wowie.
The biggest problem with them is the guitarist wearing a nickelback shirt.
Ironical
The first time I came across Mom Jeans on there live Audiotree sessions. Loved the band ever since.
That first time hearing Poor Boxer Shorts was so damn good qnd the lyrics so damn accurate.
As a musician, I’ve always loved their work. They have great instrumentation and I love the energy. The drums are sick as hell, and I agree that they are really ultimately a super fun band. And the twinkly riffs are really cool too.
Mom Jeans is like comfort food for me.
I know it's not the most complicated music, I know it is simple in several ways, but it came to me in a very uncomfortable time in my life. I remember first hearing them during a cold winter night in my old Focus and just gelling with them like I did when I was a teen in 2006-2009.
Facts
Tbh Mom Jeans is one of my favorite bands, and I’m actually pretty happy that I found out about them lol. That’s just me though, people are allowed to have their own opinions. Anyways, keep up the good content Nate!
I’ve seen them live in a concert about a year ago and they were super nice, talked to them after the show and they were really nice and cool. My friend brought his kapo and asked Bart to play with it and he actually did. We saw Eric after the show and he gave us some guitar picks that he uses, he even signed some stuff. I know it doesn’t seem extraordinarily nice, but since they’re as big as they are and probably deal with people all the time, it was every cool that they acted like that to random people. Nothing but love coming from me :)
haha that's my reddit thread at 6:40, I feel famous
Mom jeans came to my state during the hobo Johnson tour, I met them and they were amazing people, really stupid how cancel culture has gotten to mom jeans,
I came to hobo’s concert in ATL to see them. It was an absolute blast
This is so well researched, well thought out, well scripted, and well edited. Great takes too. Amazing work.
Yo what are your thoughts on Prince Daddy?? I got into them around the same time as mom jeans from their split album and now they’re my favorite band next to mobo
Cosmic Thrill Seekers is one of the best albums ever imo
@@blameitonyaboi facts
Pdaddy smacks
I was the BIGGEST Mom Jeans fan for so long (I still love them) but I definitely grew to love Prince Daddy even more. PD is amazing.
People religiously hated Mom Jeans before the stuff with Bart, they were just looking for an opportunity to drag them down. What I think happened is that Mom Jeans got big right around the same time that other big Emo bands were dying off. Modern Baseball, Jank, Sorority noise, etc. People wrapped their heads around Mom Jeans being the next big thing and when they didn't live up to that ridiculously high expectation their feelings towards them turned to hate.
I hope Bart comes back. Seems like they were two people who didn't like eachother when they were in High School. I'm with Bart. We've all made mistakes
I hope Bart comes back. Seems like they were two people who didn't like eachother when they were in High School. I'm with Bart. We've all made mistakes
I’m not a big emo fan, but when I first heard this band I immediately liked them. Eric’s vocals, melodies, and guitar licks come together to make unforgettably catchy songs. The drums are always solid. Keeping it simple works for them, and I agree that the lyrics and performances are always genuine.
I’m not a big emo fan, but when I first heard this band I immediately liked them. Eric’s vocals, melodies, and guitar licks come together to make unforgettably catchy songs. The drums are always solid. Keeping it simple works for them, and I agree that the lyrics and performances are always genuine.
Hey Nate, any chance you’d do a video on Seahaven? Would love hearing your thoughts on them, one of my favorite ever bands
👍🏻👍🏻yessss
👍👍
pls!
YES
That would be baller
as someone from the bay, and has been to one of their shows in recent years i love their older music, and they still make some bangers but their newer albums arent my favorite. i agree with them being a little overhyped, but i think another reason they got that hype is because theyre a "midwest" emo band from califonia. that sparked lots of talk about if its technically midwest emo if not from the midwest. im like in the middle of this video so idk if this point was already made lol. but that being said the energy at their show in their home town Berkley was amazing and one of my favorite concerts ive been to. the band that sam kless has, just friends, often opens for them or other midwest emo shows when they tour in the area and i will say at first i wasnt fond of just friends music but man do they know how to entertain a crowd! ive now seen just friends open 3-4 times and its always such a fun experience as a local
this taught me a lot. i had only JUST recently learned about this band in 2021. really been loving their music. but anyways, thanks for the info. like you said, growth is totally possible for everyone. hope all parties are safe.
Make a video about snowing!!
Should I do it in the winter? Just for the meme. Bc you know how it snows in the winter? Haha
Nate The Mate NO! We can’t wait that long without you talking about snowing lol
shoot haha okay I gotchu mates then. I’m for the people. And the mates
Snowing would be a good one. There should be a mention of Street Smart Cyclist in there too if he does make the video.
John Galm did a long interview with a lot of info about the band here ua-cam.com/video/WEtByPRGno4/v-deo.html
@@NateTheMateForever WHAT ABT SURF CURSE AND TEEN SUICIDE I BEG U
i'm glad u somewhat stopped walking on egg shells at least a little bit at the end of the video when talking about people's reaction to the bart allegations
Love them. Was at their first show in Europe, in some middle of nowhere small village in Belgium. All the guys were chill and hung out with the crowd after the show. Had a chance to talk with Eric and was surprised when they showed genuine interest in what we were talking about, seeing they just finished playing a show 5 minutes before. Can't wait until they come back to Europe and hope they come to the Netherlands, which they skipped out on first time around! >:(
if you aren't involved and don't know the full story, don't pick a side?
Mom Jeans has great riffs, catchy melodies and lyrics, and some stellar drumming and synchronization. I can't help but relate this to Fail Better, Heal Faster, as the same sort of concepts of growth and reinvention are present there. These people may or may not have done deplorable things but it's important to understand why we give these people the power. I feel like all of the music is being drowned out.
Band rules, the dudes seem to rule, every band they're attached to is pretty fun as well.
What other bands are they attached to?
jeffrey Garus just friends, graduating life and just about every band that tours with those bands.
And Prince Daddy and the Heyna, Erik Butler (mom jeans singer) plays trombone for them
Addison Sharp I just left it at the bands they tour with, because if you see them it’s like musical chairs haha. They all pop up in all of the “friend” bands.
The “Bart stuff” is a non-issue. You’re acting like there is controversy where when frankly it’s teenage level drama.
lmaoo freddy pee pee sighting at 0:28
lol
my favorite band of all time. got me through high school. nothing will change that.
Mom jeans is my favorite Midwest emo band ever, sweet tooth is album of the year so far
I really enjoyed this week's video, hope you're doing good man
Fun fact: Eric Butler grew up in Brampton, Ontario - an hour outside Toronto, Ontario, Canada. As someone who is Toronto raised and who sees all my favourite bands (like Mom Jeans) when they come through town, that hypes me up. Great video Nate, I love Mom Jeans. I didn't know about the accusations so I'll look into that and form my own opinions.
hey I'm from brampton and had no idea! I moved away 15 years ago but still!
@@dylancole4952 Yeah! He told the crowd when I saw them a few years ago at the Hard Luck
I just got into this genre of music a few months ago. I like this band!
I was late on this music too! It’s all new if you’ve never heard it!
Never even thought anyone hated them i don’t understand this video.
Click bait. He used the name 'mom jeans' to get views
I don’t even think the lyrics are corny. idk wtf this dude is talking about. mom jeans is the shit. everyone I know loves mom jeans. they don’t love/hate them they simply love them as the good band they are.
True that. I've never heard of anyone disliking the band. They either haven't heard, or think they're good
Lmfao idk wtf you guys are talking about, ive met SOOOO many people hate Mom Jeans.
sand 4 brainz lmfao good for you dawg. i was simply just expressing my own subjective personal opinion in the UA-cam comments like everyone else and conversing with another person online who shares the same subjective opinion. Thanks for sharing your experience too though. Although i don’t really care for it.
say what you want about puppy love, but now this is podracing is one of their best songs
I saw them live twice in Richmond, both times me and my friend had just gotten off of school and had to drive two hours out of where we lived to see them in a tiny bar. Both shows were incredible and not to play into the whole "this band saved me" shit, but I don't think I'd have the friends I do now if I hadn't gone and I'm pretty grateful for that.
I haven't even seen the whole video yet, but I can tell it's amazing and I love it! Keep it up Nate!
my favorite band, gives me the warm fuzzies and definitely shaped the way i am. lots of memories held with their music.
Wow Toby look at you, you got a favorite! And here I am after telling myself I won't watch it
@@brandonchapman6081 honestly im just famous now ig
"i was just kind of being an asshole, and i dont even know why" is basically what it boils down to for most haters of things. It is cool to open your mind and experience new things despite having that initial bias against it
Met Bart yesterday while backstage at their performance in London. Nice guy!
I didn't even know there was hate surrounding mom jeans until now.
Edit: Okay after watching the video, it's kind of sad that Nate has to do a 13 minute video talking about the hate and controversy surrounding a band when in reality there's nothing wrong with them, people just love to hate, and there's so much to their music that i wish got more commentary in this video. I love mom jeans from the music and performances alone; it's simply beautiful, catchy, the lyrics are out there as much as other emo bands, and their basement shows look like a lot of fun.
Ppl can hate it but it makes me feel understood and that's what music's all about
you missed one key factor, their drummer is THE GOAT. his technique and form is so underrated
I love this band. I'm a little new to the emo genre as i hated it originally in the early 2000s, but in 2020 fell in love with it. Mom Jeans. Is just a great example of Midwest emo. Kind of crappy vocals, lyrics that are generally about how awkward it is growing up and seem very high school oriented, jingly guitar riffs etc... and i absolutely love it.
I kept seeing that Reddit post say "they play the same chord progression over and over". As a lifelong musician I can absolutely sau that's not true at all. Sure there are some recurring progressions, but that's completely normal.
I think their songwriting and production on Sweet Tooth is fantastic. Which is a nice sign of growth. I had originally heard them a few years back on a midwest emo playlist that had "Scott Pilgrim vs. My GPA" on it. And i really liked it a lot. And then i came across "What's Up" last year and kond of couldn't believe it was the same band. Now i listen to pretty much all their stuff. Just love it.
Big mom jeans fan here, great job on the video as usual, Nate!
This video was FANTASTIC. Your description of things people like and dislike the band for was greatly analytical
It makes me sick to my stomach that a band I've been trying to find since 2019 ever since HUNNY's album that year, has suffered from narcissistic women following the trend of trying to cancel men for things they didn't do. It makes me sick to think a gender can't be fought against or disagree with, otherwise they'll come back to ruin your entire life. It makes me sick to think even the US court system is geared to always believe women no matter what they say. This is systemic sexism far worse than any systemic racism right now, it's a ticket for a gender to get all the attention they want and have any lie they make up be believed all so they can ruin some male celebrity's life.
Holy moly, that ending take is insane. Well done.
could you make a vid on midwest pen pals or merchant ships much love man
Thank you for making a mom jeans video I really wanted to hear your thought on them
Mom Jeans tend to use the same progression a lot but its also one of the most common progressions in many forms of music. I am a musician in multiple facetes and still love this band
i’m only 19 and believe me i did a lot of stupid, ignorant, and regrettable things when i was 14 and i’ve changed a ton since then. it’s completely unfair to judge someone’s character based on mistakes they made in the distant past
That first EP will haunt this band forever.
The opening track is a complete re-do of....re-do..
And here we are, a year/two later, new album out and they’re even better!!
THIS!!! Like bro, people change! It's crazy that people think mistakes are the most important and everlasting thing about someone
I honestly like bart’s band “graduating life” more than mom jeans. It makes me so genuinely sad that he might not come back to music because the previews for their new album that was supposed drop this year were really good.
I agree with that. I like the album grad life so much.
I think in regards of what should happen is holding people accountable. Whether or not they leave the scene depends on the severity of what happened, if there has been a clear representation of growth from the person responsible.
One of the few Midwest Emo bands I never got into. I listened to a few songs and they didn't hook me in. Looking forward to watching this though and learning a bit about them!
2 years later Bart is back and he lost all the weight. Love that dude. Just saw them live in Houston
In order to love or hate Mom Jeans depends on how their songs relatable to others. They were one of the few bands who are not intended to be loved by everyone. In order to love them, you should relate and feel connected with their songs. I think that is the reason why there are people who still love Mom Jeans.
I think people hating on them because they use the same chords in their songs makes no sense. Green Day used the same Power Chord Progressions on many of their songs but many people still hailed them as tge Best Punk Rock Band in the world.
What i hear on their music are the fact that they just intended to have fun and do what makes them feel happy
I actually know Bart personally, and hes wonderful. He’s so kind to all the people around him and it’s crazy to hear these allegations.
Very thoughtful video Nate . I swear ! People will always find something " problematic " about every act . Keep it up and you will have no scene and no music .
Rediscovering this gem of a channel
The Jorts and Its Cold Out Here similarity I feel is intentional, later in the song he even says "I will stop cutting my jeans into shorts" which seems to be a reference to The Front Bottoms. When I first heard Jorts I thought it was all just an ode to emo bands they probably enjoy.
the footage at 6:53 is from when they were supposed to play at Java in Boise, ID in September 2018. I was working "security" at that show. I say "security" because really I was just helping out my friend who booked the show and I was helping out at the door and counting heads for the sake of keeping it at capacity. Maybe a few more people than would fit in the building showed up, but before people even got into the lobby of the coffee shop, the building owner showed up and asked the property manager to come and help him shut the show down. The venue had been hosting shows for a few months there and my band had played there twice, but when the owner caught wind of it, he decided to shut the shit down. The promoter did everything he could and even offered the guy money to let them do the show, but the guy turned it all down just because he could. I was trying to help kids get out and the venue manager grabbed me by the shirt and threw me out the front doors despite me telling him I was there working on the show as a staff member. Real douche move. Since Mom Jeans couldn't play the show anymore, in a last ditch effort, they grabbed an acoustic guitar and played three songs in Capitol Park a block away, packed up their shit and left. It really sucks. A lot of people worked super hard to make that show happen at one of Boise's only DIY venue's and some fucker had to ruin it and shut down the venue in the process. I've tried reaching out the Mom Jeans a few different times (pre-COVID-19 of course) to see about booking them at other all ages venues we'd gotten since the last time they showed up but they kinda always didn't seem to want to be bothered with it and would rather skip out on Boise, or just have an off date instead.
I actually watched them perform in a park in my hometown and it's one of the best performances I've ever seen
I think you should make a spotify playlist with your favorite songs!
as a Mom Jeans and Modern Baseball fan, I always felt that they were big lovers of MOBO, which gave them a familiar but knew sound, I think that with Jorts they were inspired by MOBO but didn't really know how to throw their sound in more
at the end of the day it is 2020 and i have been listening to music for over 30 years now and we have reached our peak it seems where every genre and subgenre has been so oversaturated and formulated that yeah they do what they do well enough and they have captured the hearts of a dedicated fanbase but they arent anything fresh at all, and there isnt anything wrong with that. every genre is stale at this point and we can only hope that new kids pick up instruments or write some words or give a slightly bent perspective to the ideals and thoughts that have long been written about time and time again and doing it within the musical confines of whatever perspective genre they decide that we just so happen to enjoy. theyre not the first they wont be the last but kudos to them for picking up some fans along the way and best of luck to them in creating a sonic soundscape of what they feel and see in this world.
Based on the questions you asked in the video. The way to grow out of bad behavior is transformative justice. You admit what you did was wrong, and then you make amends to the victim and the community.
"I was crappy when I was a kid" doesn't admit, or improve anything but proving better behavior with actions does.
In some scenes this just happens sort of automatically if you wanna keep being a part of the scene. Emo is sort of innately harder because its really personal to people. I mean there are folks who still stan brand new or mcafferty even after what they've very clearly done wrong.
Okay, I see where you’re coming from.
However, I see nothing inherently wrong with stanning a band if you like their music
i honestly don't have a huge opinion on mom jeans yet (since i only know a couple of their songs) but i also rly wanted to say that i just discovered your channel and while i have only watched a handful of videos i love how nuanced, well-researched and personal your videos are and you also just seem like a rly chill guy.
i'm rly excited to watch some more of your videos when it's not 2 a.m!!
have a great day🌿
i just gotta say, when this whole bart drama went on, i said almost the same you did. basically something along the lines of “i don’t get why people are so quick to cancel mom jeans over some things that were said, but can’t be proven, over 10 years ago. i’m not saying it didn’t happen, but i’m sure if we were all judged for our misdeeds in high school, we’d all be canceled assholes. i’m sure they’ve both grown and moved on so we should do the same.” and they deleted my response. a few replies were made in agreement before it got deleted, but yea i couldn’t help but laugh when you said that.
great video man.
I don't get the issue with the song sounding similar. Musicians inspire each other, sometimes you take inspiration consciously, sometimes unconsciously. Also the stuff, with Mom Jeans sounding generic. If you wouldn't want to listen to music, that sounds like it's part of this genre, you wouldn't listen to this genre. Of course, something can sound uninspired or boring, but for me their music doesn't evoke those emotions at all.
The drama stuff is silly imo and I really don't care.
I think, they're a really cool band and I enjoy listening to them.
Shamelessly of my favorite bands of all time. Went to see them live last year at Hobo Johnson’s tour and it was so much fun
I love Mom Jeans! I was actually at the show that you featured at O'malley's in Margate Florida. Super nice guys and I love their music.
Awesome video! I recently just got into Mom Jeans and love their first record/live performances on YT. I appreciate your commentary about cancel culture in this movement and think that this is a really important conversation that we should all be having.
I love love this band but I have never researched them so all this is new to me. I just lobe the music so much.
chads love to hate on mom jeans bc they've never felt any of things they are singing about
One of my favorite live acts I've seen personally. Saw them with "Just Friends" and I loved it.
Thanks for the reminder to grab a snack and skin up 🎉
I love/hate the emo community. They have the balls to gate guard the emo community. We're all broken in some ways and Moms Jean's helped me realize that
The Used lifted a Saves the Day riff. The Foo Fighters lifted the Holy Diver riff. Using similar elements from other artists is so common. Nothing is new anymore
I dont care for Mom Jeans in the slightest but trying to cancel someone for something minor they did at age 15 is just mega cringe. Cancel culture is just all about attention at this point and just making shit worse
mom jeans is one of my most favorite bands ever and seeing content of them makes me :')