SHE KNOWS ALL THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY. "I'm just in shock!" Now she's fake crying again because she has been called out. You are right. That little girl was not loved by her mom. What a tragedy.
I'm a retired lawyer. So Jennifer "sent" (her word) Madeline and SS to bedroom #4 on the second floor -- which has a single-sized (38 inches wide) bed! SS was 6'2", 220 lbs. and Maddie was 5'1" 110 lbs. In Jennifer's criminally negligent mind, how were Maddie and SS going to fit on the bed? With a tripod and a loaded (12 bullet magazine & another magazine in a bag on the table) Sig Sauer pistol [$600-$1000] in Bedroom #4, along with a bottle of mastur__ cream, and only one pillow, what more does DA Andrew Bain need? Plus, crucially, the "Woody Allen" admission! JS: I've always told him that my biggest fear that "this" would turn into a Woody Allen situation. "This" - meaning SS's abuse of Maddie. JS knew "always" of the abuse and feared that it would turn into a committed relationship between SS and Maddie. JS told SS "always" of her fear. Florida statute 827.03 says that "neglect of a child" means "A caregiver’s failure to make a reasonable effort to protect a child from abuse, neglect, or exploitation by another person." The "neglect of a child may be based on repeated conduct or on a single incident or omission that results in, or could reasonably be expected to result in, serious physical or mental injury, or a substantial risk of death, to a child." Felony neglect of a child can be proved by a single "incident or omission" in Florida! The "Queen for a day" proffer session was begun, unusually and likely as part of a deal, by on-the-record waiver of law enforcement's case or cases regarding JS's prior lies to law enforcement, most notably, her lies that she saw Maddie at 8:00 am off for school on the day, February 26th, Maddie went "missing." And that she knew what Maddie was wearing. MS's current position is that though she sleeps with the door ajar on the first floor, she didn't hear loud noises during the night that the roommate heard, that she didn't notice that daughter was murdered, probably violently as pictures of SS's knuckles show that they are quite red, implying punching, and the pictures show scratches on his hand, most likely from Maddie defending herself. JS didn't notice that SS walked through the front door - next to her bedroom, to carry Maddie's body down the stairs and to his car and take the time to prop Maddie's body up in the front seat. He then drove to the dumpster and tossed in Maddie's backpack and school laptop at 7:35 am. Then SS left the complex at 7:50 a.m. Yet, JS was awake around this time because SS entered her bedroom to try to leash the dog, and JS got out of bed to help him - though she didn't notice scratches on SS's hands or his red knuckles. Indeed, she said to police and wrote in a statement that she saw Maddie, alive and well, at 8:00 am,, leave for school and even described Maddie's clothing. JS has since admitted those statements were false. But she still maintains that she didn't see any of the bad things and went back to sleep. JS's position is that she didn't notice that SS still had Maddie, deceased, propped up in the front seat of his car, when he returned to the apartment at 8:19 am, for unknown reasons. (SS lied and said he returned to get his "clicker," but the guard at the gate saw the "clicker" in SS's hands.) The proffer session was JS's chance to come clean = and not be prosecuted for what she said. I don't think JS's admission of long-term fears that "this would turn into a Woody Allen situation, " though not usable to prosecute her for neglect of a child, clears her of that charge. There are pics of csam with Maddie in them from the age of 8, and she died just after turning 13. There's plenty of evidence that JS neglected her child and failed to protect her for years. What JS should have done at her proffer was come clean about her knowledge or long-held suspicions that SS was SA'ing Maddie, describing every suspicion or event and why she failed to do anything about it. That would have given her immunity from being prosecuted for crimes related to those statements. But she chose to protect SS, duck and cover, be vague, and hinder the investigation. It's possible that JS is thought of by LE as a negligent, mentally messed up mom who grieves in a weird way and is a small fish, and not worth the resources, since the DA has two DP cases against SS on his hands to prepare. I hope not. JS deserves criminal charges of at least neglect of a child. In addition, I don't believe her when she says that she never told SS that Maddie had missed her period in February. SS admits to knowing about when Maddie's period occurred - strange, of course, for a mom's on-again off-again bf to know about. Also, since MS said she thought her daughter was a virgin, why track the girl's periods? Unless Maddie's periods were important data for both SS and JS as "this" was turning into a Woody Allen situation?
I’m wondering about some missing time. Jenn left at 2:30 to go pick up MS. She said she got there at 4. So where was she during that 1.5 hour? Why no questions about this? Oh ya, also, I believe he was watching around the area where he said he dropped MS off. He noticed the other little girl sitting there for those 15 mins and walked off camera at church park lot. This led him to say he dropped her off there. IMO. This so called mother has not one ounce of motherly love. I wish Maddie was mine. She would have been raised by this single mom, who got down and dirty with my children. I Love my children and would kill and die for them! This whole thing just stinks!!! She should be right there in her own cell too!! She infuriates me. Hahah, I started off writing all happy and light feeling to now I’m bashing the little keyboard! Haha Have a great night! ❤ Ciao🤌🏼
@@denisemoschetto4999she left at 230 to bethere in line 1st fod the 4pm pick up. I can confirm in even acrosd the usa you have to get there at LEAST one hour early to be first... and so the 1.5 hrs would be legit to be the abdooute first in pick up a line. I actually love to sit there thay entire 1.5 hrs alone, reading or just being left alone!!! The earlier the better...😅
@@jackpalance2000 wow that's amazing how you summed all this up extremely accurate all be it disgusting they both are and your so Right and I don't understand regardless , why they can't or won't arrest js she knew imo and had got to be held accountable 🤦🏻♀️ it just wouldn't seem like sufficient enough Justice for sweet Maddie if js isn't held accountable as well and thanks for your summary ,breaking it all down 👍 I really hope the investigators are looking at js like How you just said from the summary
She " grew up not trusting men" but yet makes her daughter go sleep with this disgusting piece of garbage!? But in those 7 years , he WAS doing things to her !! I pray the by her admitting that , she is charged with child neglect/ endangerment at the very least!😡 Just that statement alone means that she saw the signs and that there was the possibility of it happening😡😡😡😡
She said 'multiple life sentences, fine'. Maddie is a single life. Was she including the presumed unborn child as the 2nd life? Causing Jen to refer to a sentence for more than 1 life. As for the Miralax, I don't believe it was for Constipation. It was to make her bowel movements tolerable. That baby was in agony when she had to go to the bathroom. I can't find the words to describe my outrage for Jen
You Strategic eyes 👀 nailed this out of all crime channels because the Woody Allen comment by Jenn." I've always told ' him' that my biggest fear this would turn into a Woody Allen situation "..she even said GROOMING
I read a quote that said. “You did not ask to be abused. It is not your fault you were abused. It is your responsibility after being abused to heal that damage”. Jenn chose to look for someone to take care of Maddie so she could check out emotionally and physically”.
Living on disability, getting botox injections, driving a fairly nice car. Help me figure this out. A handicapped placard for her car to boot. Wouldn't want her to walk very far!
I don;t believe Maddie was ill either. I believe that it was her psychological abuse. I was reclusive too. Put a fake smile to show the world while inside I was a wreck. Poor Maddie. I believe you are on the right track Strategic Eyes. Thank you for being her voice.
A couple weeks ago I stumbled upon your channel. As a single hard working mom I WOULD NEVER leave my kids with a man to sleep in bed with my daughter EVER!!! The convo about Woody Allen has never come up with the man I was married to for 15 years about my oldest daughter. I would never have ever even thought he was inappropriate with my oldest. Not ever. I talked to my daughter daily and would have known something was wrong. I am now single again and will not leave my kids with ANYONE but my parents!!! Incredibly selfish. I have to miss events (not birthday parties) because I work my tail off so that not only I can provide a roof and hot food but their various after school activities. Thank you for your thought provoking insights. I don’t miss that comment it is very eye opening
I agree with that 💯 I really believe that they would not allow Maddie to go for sleepovers bc they didn't want Maddie to tell anyone what was going on & Jenn should be in jail no way she didn't know what was going on she even says about Woody Allen situation so that tells me she definitely knows what was going on but now she's claiming she doesn't know anything,🧐
Her gut knew, she must of seen signs, I wonder I'd SS told Jen that her mother has drilled it into that men are bad, she doesn't tell the police of anything that maybe suspicious cos she knows she F up and ignored it and doesn't want to admit it.
Exactly Jenn knew everything Why would they track her period unless she was having SEX so Jenn definitely knew & allowed it by sending her to bed with her 38 yr old Ex boyfriend but calls him her partner like what she lied about everything they caught her in so much & gave her a deal this woman is the most horrible mother I've ever seen that ALLOWED SS to rape her daughter I feel in my heart she knew exactly what happened
I agree- I wish this officer would’ve followed up after the Woody Allen comment asking what brought this topic up or why she would say something like that-
Gisela (GTC) recommended this site and I am so glad I came. I am so impressed with your analysis. There is a standard of care and credibility you bring to this community. Thanks for all the hard work u put in to these videos.
Glad to have you around. S👀 has a wealth of insight to draw from in his background. Hope you stick around. Much different perspective than others, especially since he's still an active detective in NY.
Jen Soto just admitted that "She always told him that "THIS WOULD ALWAYS TURN INTO A WOODY ALLEN SITUATION" Yes, she saw what was happening and she was concerned. And also noticed that she started her next statement after that ''''Where the stepdaughter falls..." she trails off and corrects herself by saying "'Where the stepdad grooms the child...." She is self correcting to say the correct thing in order as to the situation of her missing daughter- not blame her daughter, but blaming him now.
I think that detective was "cold blooded" because he had seen the evidence and he was irritated with her cold blooded responses. Clearly this is a woman who is more concerned in covering her lover's tracks instead of mourning her daughter. I like that detective.
@darla896 A lot of doctors are easily convinced by patients.You just have to shop around and I'd say Jenn Soto has found a very accommodating health professional 💊 💊 💊 on tap.
Starting to keep some notes. These are some about the sleeping arrangements from this interview. Ridiculous how she changes her story on how often Maddy slept with her. And she clearly admits she knew it wasn't right AND that she was suspicious there was more going on by comparing their relationship to Woody Allen. No one can deny she didn't have suspicions...at the very least. Anyone who does is not being intellectually honest! Investigator: How did it start? -"Maddie has ALWAYS slept in bed w/me. She's always slept in my room." -Jen says Maddie only slept with her in this Kissimmee apartment. Had her own room in North Port. -Then says during times living with SS it would be the 3 of them in bed in the master bedroom downstairs. -Wasn't until June of last year they broke up and she told SS she no longer wanted to sleep w/him and to move upstairs. - "Maddy pretty much slept with me all the time". -Can count on one hand how many times Maddy went upstairs to sleep with SS alone. -**Jen said she wasn't comfortable with it. "No, it doesn't look right, it doesn't seem right, Maddie. And I told her she had to sleep with me."** (This is a straight admittance to knowing it wasn't right). - But there were times they begged to stay up late to watch movies and I would be too tired so would say "Fine, just this *once*". Investigator: When did you start becoming comfortable with it? - "I don't know if I was ever comfortable with it." But you told them to go Sunday night to sleep together... -"I did. That was a selfish move on my part. It's because I wanted a good night sleep, I didn't want her kicking me, or rolling onto me, or waking me up. Or to hear her alarm so that it woke me up. I wanted to keep sleeping until I needed to sleep cus I just had not, with my training schedule I just had not had a good night sleep. My medication was out of wack. I was feeling funny and not like myself. And I knew that I needed another night sleep and my medication in my body like asap. So I needed to go to bed. So that was...I wasn't even comfortable sending her that night but I did it for my own selfish reasons". Did you know...? Redacted* He's never told you or said anything to you about it? "No, if anything I always told him that my biggest fear is that this would turn into a Woody Allen situation where the step daughter fall....or where the Dad grooms the child and the child then turns 18 and ends up running away with him. I told him like that was my biggest fear and that I don't want that ever happening. Like you can't do that do me! Like..."
Strategic, I just want you to know the way you honor Maddie's life; especially around the 2:20 mark and before is so beautiful and commendable. I agree with everyone of your thoughts& opinions on this case. Thank you for making it clear that MADDIE MATTERED IN THIS WORLD! AND WE ALL LOVE HER AND SHE NEVER DESERVED THIS LIFE HER SO CALLED MOM GAVE HER! 💚💜💚💜💚💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜PRAYERS FOR MADDIE
funny how stephens friend said they were extremely kinky people and even said he felt like jen abused madeline too and stephen stayed with her because of what she did for him… and her friend even said she was outspoken and uncomfortable about her sexual business in front of her friends too!! and she clearly had no shame in front of detectives giving details so casually… yet she says it was vanilla… sure jen.
@@amsie_86grey hughes investigates (he’s honestly pretty terrible creator ngl, but his interviews with stephens friends are worth listening to and very eye opening 😢❤)
@@LoveFlowers1i feel like jen was a lesbian and her and stephen actually had a transactional situation ship between them that was $ based… i think she protected stephen not because she loved him but because she was protecting herself as well… i never got a romantic vibe from them at all, they’re scammers imo
It doesn’t matter what her disabilities are, as the custodial parent she has a legal obligation to protect her child. She approved, encouraged and facilitated the abuse of her child, by her own admission. Therefore, she is culpable in the abuse and death of her child.
@ScrappyXFL right lol. Just a dunce. Seemed like she didnt know her daughter at all. She knows nothing when it comes to Maddie but is so detailed when it comes to Stefan
@@EbonyBrown-k1kIt's disgusting the way she treated Maddie and the way that her boyfriend did too. She acted like she didn't matter to her at all in comparison to Stephan.
You’d remember and you wouldn’t be trying to mentally search for details and consider events after telling your story fifty times. You would know every fact after telling people what happened over and over. She’s acting like it’s the first time she’s telling the story every time.
She was clearly thinking about the Woody Allen effect then she claims not to have suspected ANYTHING between SS and Maddie. She is contradicting herself. It's like a confession. Let's hope the police take note of her words.
Stearns childhood friend said they were both into kink and he was with her because she’d do what he wanted. Add that with the statements of his ex girlfriends; “ he wanted me to dress up like a little girl” , “he wanted me to play dead” “ he was so rough” She literally said to Stearns father regarding the SA PICS that he was “ frustrated “ Jen threw him out bc he was too close to Maddy not because he was MESSY! “The Woody Allen Effect”fear… then she kept pursuing him - letting the devil back in over ad over. She put his needs before Naddies. Period.
She didn't want sleepovers because she knew her boyfriend would be eyeballing those girls. The way I did a sleepover was when my husband was out of town for the weekend and no males were in my house. She knew what he was doing
The Woody Allen issues statement made my skin crawl big time! I have a feeling Jen was always jealous of Maddys beauty and her sparkling personality, so she was worried that Scumbag SS would chose Maddy over her, and apparently he did… Very disgusting and vile to even for her to say that was her biggest fear that would happen. Jen you have a sick mind and soul. 😒💜💚
What are some statistics on a child being abused in the home for that long going unnoticed? Especially with Jenn being home so much. She had to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s very easy to google the stats. 1 in 5 girls, and 1 in 20 boys are victims of this kind of abuse. They aren’t usually ended unless they will be likely to tell. Maddie was likely about to tell. She probably wasn’t fully drugged that night when this beast took advantage of her this last time. She was probably hurt and crying. He panicked and ended it.
Yeah you cracked this case Strategic eyes 👀 💯 she told him ' you can't ever do that to me'.She knew the Woody Allen movie and she KNEW her own home situation.
NOT ONLY WAS JENN HOME MOST OF THE TIME DURING THE ABUSE BUT THIS ABUSE TOOK PLACE MOSTLY IN THE SUMMER TIME AND OCCURED MOSTLY ON THE SAME DAYS EACH WEEK!
The meds tho that are used to treat that are known to cause you not to care, be numb and sleep a lot. Not compatible with being a parent especially a special needs child
In another interview jenn tells them maddie makes “game day decision”when getting ready for school. They specifically asked her if she picked her clothes out the night before school, Jenn said NO!
In another interview they asked her if she saw Maddie Monday and she said no. The cop then asks how do you know what she was wearing then? She quickly replies Maddie told me the night before what she was going to wear...nothing but lies she contradicts herself all the time.
Yes. Her reaction to Maddie's picture. That would had impacted me. I wouldn't had been able to go on talking because I would've been consumed by grief and anger! And even if I had feelings for Stephon I would've wanted to hurt him. Where is her anger? Where is her grieve? She keeps talking to Detective. This detective has her number and served her a does of reality on a silver platter just as she/Jen handed Maddie to Stephon on a silver platter. A man with deviant sexual proclivities which she said no to but she allowed to sleep with her daughter. Jen wants to play naive. No. She knew exactly what was going on by her own Woody Allen admissions. I love that detective. I want to buy him a coffee and some donuts!
Jen had 2 failed relationships, a single parent on disability, obese, has the surgery, loses weight, meets Stearns, falls under his spell into her own fantasy world of finally meeting, “ the one” her fear gets triggered and she ignores/ Denys her suspicions bc she doesn’t want to lose him- does all kinds of things to keep him, throws him out, won’t keep him out, all the signs( sleeps thru them) where was their ANY TIME for Maddie’s emotional needs?
It’s actually quite normal for mothers to track their daughters cycles, absolutely nothing wrong with knowing what’s going on with your daughter cycle for very many reasons
@@jaggybee4704it just seems out of character for Jen Soto to be concerned about Maddie. She doesn’t appear to be the nurturing sort. I don’t think she was making Maddie breakfast every morning either.
They can’t even confirm that Jen spent anytime with Maddie and Stefan that night. The roommates didn’t see her or hear her that night. Only Angelica heard a thump in the night.
Within a short few minutes JS gives totally conflicting testimony: On the one hand she is talking about Woody Allen situation: and then she flips to totally trusting this man as a father figure that loves Maddie like she does. I cant with this woman.
STRATEGIC I lost my son suddenly also...since his death ..I too am on a bipolar med,an anxiety med,a med for dyslexia...My point I raised 3 sonsi have NEVER BEEN KNOCKED OUT,OR UNABLE TO THINK....All I can say is you take ur meds,sane time every day...eat a fruit, drink water ..and keep hustlin!!! As a mother,I dont get to give up and be selfish 😮...IF I WAS TO NOT FWT UP ONE DAY,my two sons living would give up as well....moms!! We are warriors daily!
Much respect Strategic. My grandpa was a corrections officer at State pen for decades. He had a pair of gloves with metal at the knuckles, that he'd use on cons acting up. What a complete badass. Mamaw would make people run too. She'd loud out dirty laundry in public, she knew whom was dirty. She cleared out one third attending the auction house before we'd made it to the threshold. People were scurrying out the side door, double time. Ah, the days. I absolutely love your comments and attitude. God bless you and yours. Wish there were more grounded people. Evil is as easy as it is weak. Thanks for your time and effort on these awesome videos. Let's take a bite outta crime...
While I appreciate Plunder has a right to watermark the audio she partly paid for with The Docket & GHI, it is terribly distracting to have her dropping in so often saying 'Plunder true crime audio' throughout. Respectfully it's overkill and it detracts from the focus and real reason we are all here and that is to seek justice for Madeline Soto.
Let's give her the benefit of the doubt that she didn't know any abuse was happening. The minute these thoughts/fears came to her mind was the time to REMOVE Maddie from the situation. If this is the case, she ignored her intuition and failed Maddie for her own selfish reasons.
To me tracking her cycles is so strange. Why would you need to track a 13 year olds period if you know she isn’t sexually active? Screams she’s accountable of knowing somethings was going on
Now that we know that Maddie did not get dropped off and the story about not NOT wanting to drive in SS jelloppy....why did Jen lead with that story so strong it the initial interviews
Dude, last night saw someone post the cell gps data, it was unreal. Not just locations, exact times of the pings, lines w/ ping dots... I had to walk that off it was so disgusting. And the DA knows way more than we do... 🤬 (edit) Included both SS and MS's metadata, like a freaking stalker
@@fantasiazplatkami I doubt that...she was not in love with him she was not attracted to him...they were partners in crime.....I am waiting for it to come out that she was the madame !!! Stephan probably convinced her to allow Maddie to be exploit for CSAM... prob even convinced her it was her idea. Prob start out as feet picture...prob convince her she was Maddie "stunt double" because they looked so similar
@IamthatIam54321 wow. That's spot on. I really do think it was that way. She got her head all big when he told her that Maddie looked just like her. Smh disgusting
I think Jenn corrects SS about what Maddie was wearing (shorts vs blue pants) because Jenn put on the green hoodie with the hood up and walked into the church parking lot to appear like Maddie was alive at the time. I believe that Jenn was involved the entire time. That’s why she corrects SS, she remembered wearing shorts not pants that morning.
2:18:04 I am with you here. They'd been drugging her up for symptoms they created. And she became invisible to the system that believes the mother and her shadey "boyfriend".
I suffer from depression, anxiety and almost commuted suicide. No man alive or dead will ever touch my children. 24 niece and 26 year nephew. Even my niece and nephew sleep in different bedrooms. I had a stepfather who
Plunder said she couldn't wait to hear your reaction on this
Yup that’s why I had to find him and his reaction!
I’m here from Plunder 👋🏼
SHE KNOWS ALL THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY. "I'm just in shock!" Now she's fake crying again because she has been called out. You are right. That little girl was not loved by her mom. What a tragedy.
I'm a retired lawyer. So Jennifer "sent" (her word) Madeline and SS to bedroom #4 on the second floor -- which has a single-sized (38 inches wide) bed! SS was 6'2", 220 lbs. and Maddie was 5'1" 110 lbs. In Jennifer's criminally negligent mind, how were Maddie and SS going to fit on the bed? With a tripod and a loaded (12 bullet magazine & another magazine in a bag on the table) Sig Sauer pistol [$600-$1000] in Bedroom #4, along with a bottle of mastur__ cream, and only one pillow, what more does DA Andrew Bain need? Plus, crucially, the "Woody Allen" admission!
JS: I've always told him that my biggest fear that "this" would turn into a Woody Allen situation.
"This" - meaning SS's abuse of Maddie. JS knew "always" of the abuse and feared that it would turn into a committed relationship between SS and Maddie. JS told SS "always" of her fear.
Florida statute 827.03 says that "neglect of a child" means "A caregiver’s failure to make a reasonable effort to protect a child from abuse, neglect, or exploitation by another person." The "neglect of a child may be based on repeated conduct or on a single incident or omission that results in, or could reasonably be expected to result in, serious physical or mental injury, or a substantial risk of death, to a child." Felony neglect of a child can be proved by a single "incident or omission" in Florida!
The "Queen for a day" proffer session was begun, unusually and likely as part of a deal, by on-the-record waiver of law enforcement's case or cases regarding JS's prior lies to law enforcement, most notably, her lies that she saw Maddie at 8:00 am off for school on the day, February 26th, Maddie went "missing." And that she knew what Maddie was wearing. MS's current position is that though she sleeps with the door ajar on the first floor, she didn't hear loud noises during the night that the roommate heard, that she didn't notice that daughter was murdered, probably violently as pictures of SS's knuckles show that they are quite red, implying punching, and the pictures show scratches on his hand, most likely from Maddie defending herself. JS didn't notice that SS walked through the front door - next to her bedroom, to carry Maddie's body down the stairs and to his car and take the time to prop Maddie's body up in the front seat. He then drove to the dumpster and tossed in Maddie's backpack and school laptop at 7:35 am. Then SS left the complex at 7:50 a.m. Yet, JS was awake around this time because SS entered her bedroom to try to leash the dog, and JS got out of bed to help him - though she didn't notice scratches on SS's hands or his red knuckles. Indeed, she said to police and wrote in a statement that she saw Maddie, alive and well, at 8:00 am,, leave for school and even described Maddie's clothing. JS has since admitted those statements were false. But she still maintains that she didn't see any of the bad things and went back to sleep. JS's position is that she didn't notice that SS still had Maddie, deceased, propped up in the front seat of his car, when he returned to the apartment at 8:19 am, for unknown reasons. (SS lied and said he returned to get his "clicker," but the guard at the gate saw the "clicker" in SS's hands.)
The proffer session was JS's chance to come clean = and not be prosecuted for what she said. I don't think JS's admission of long-term fears that "this would turn into a Woody Allen situation, " though not usable to prosecute her for neglect of a child, clears her of that charge. There are pics of csam with Maddie in them from the age of 8, and she died just after turning 13. There's plenty of evidence that JS neglected her child and failed to protect her for years. What JS should have done at her proffer was come clean about her knowledge or long-held suspicions that SS was SA'ing Maddie, describing every suspicion or event and why she failed to do anything about it. That would have given her immunity from being prosecuted for crimes related to those statements. But she chose to protect SS, duck and cover, be vague, and hinder the investigation.
It's possible that JS is thought of by LE as a negligent, mentally messed up mom who grieves in a weird way and is a small fish, and not worth the resources, since the DA has two DP cases against SS on his hands to prepare. I hope not. JS deserves criminal charges of at least neglect of a child. In addition, I don't believe her when she says that she never told SS that Maddie had missed her period in February. SS admits to knowing about when Maddie's period occurred - strange, of course, for a mom's on-again off-again bf to know about. Also, since MS said she thought her daughter was a virgin, why track the girl's periods? Unless Maddie's periods were important data for both SS and JS as "this" was turning into a Woody Allen situation?
I’m wondering about some missing time. Jenn left at 2:30 to go pick up MS. She said she got there at 4. So where was she during that 1.5 hour? Why no questions about this?
Oh ya, also, I believe he was watching around the area where he said he dropped MS off. He noticed the other little girl sitting there for those 15 mins and walked off camera at church park lot. This led him to say he dropped her off there. IMO.
This so called mother has not one ounce of motherly love.
I wish Maddie was mine. She would have been raised by this single mom, who got down and dirty with my children. I Love my children and would kill and die for them!
This whole thing just stinks!!!
She should be right there in her own cell too!!
She infuriates me.
Hahah, I started off writing all happy and light feeling to now I’m bashing the little keyboard! Haha
Have a great night! ❤
Ciao🤌🏼
@@denisemoschetto4999she left at 230 to bethere in line 1st fod the 4pm pick up. I can confirm in even acrosd the usa you have to get there at LEAST one hour early to be first... and so the 1.5 hrs would be legit to be the abdooute first in pick up a line. I actually love to sit there thay entire 1.5 hrs alone, reading or just being left alone!!! The earlier the better...😅
@@denisemoschetto4999left at 2:30. School ended at 4pm
@@jackpalance2000 wow that's amazing how you summed all this up extremely accurate all be it disgusting they both are and your so Right and I don't understand regardless , why they can't or won't arrest js she knew imo and had got to be held accountable 🤦🏻♀️ it just wouldn't seem like sufficient enough Justice for sweet Maddie if js isn't held accountable as well and thanks for your summary ,breaking it all down 👍 I really hope the investigators are looking at js like How you just said from the summary
@@jackpalance2000 everyone needs to read your comment esp those js supporters
She " grew up not trusting men" but yet makes her daughter go sleep with this disgusting piece of garbage!? But in those 7 years , he WAS doing things to her !! I pray the by her admitting that , she is charged with child neglect/ endangerment at the very least!😡 Just that statement alone means that she saw the signs and that there was the possibility of it happening😡😡😡😡
She said 'multiple life sentences, fine'. Maddie is a single life. Was she including the presumed unborn child as the 2nd life? Causing Jen to refer to a sentence for more than 1 life. As for the Miralax, I don't believe it was for Constipation. It was to make her bowel movements tolerable. That baby was in agony when she had to go to the bathroom. I can't find the words to describe my outrage for Jen
You Strategic eyes 👀 nailed this out of all crime channels because the Woody Allen comment by Jenn." I've always told ' him' that my biggest fear this would turn into a Woody Allen situation "..she even said GROOMING
I read a quote that said. “You did not ask to be abused. It is not your fault you were abused. It is your responsibility after being abused to heal that damage”. Jenn chose to look for someone to take care of Maddie so she could check out emotionally and physically”.
Living on disability, getting botox injections, driving a fairly nice car. Help me figure this out. A handicapped placard for her car to boot. Wouldn't want her to walk very far!
I know right 🙄 exactly my thoughts she's disgusting and that fake crying gets on my nerves
She has been playing the diminished capacity to work the system for awhile. She’s quick at being able to lie for someone who is so med’ up.
Couldn’t give Maddie a room bc of money but she can sure budget for that newer car and Botox perfectly fine.
Not only that she also had bariatric surgery(for weight loss). I wonder who paid for her weight loss surgery?
And apparently, had gastric bypass surgery, likely paid for by her family as well. It's sickening.
Jezebel Jenn has never complimented Maddie on anything .
Unreal
I don;t believe Maddie was ill either. I believe that it was her psychological abuse. I was reclusive too. Put a fake smile to show the world while inside I was a wreck. Poor Maddie. I believe you are on the right track Strategic Eyes. Thank you for being her voice.
A couple weeks ago I stumbled upon your channel. As a single hard working mom I WOULD NEVER leave my kids with a man to sleep in bed with my daughter EVER!!! The convo about Woody Allen has never come up with the man I was married to for 15 years about my oldest daughter. I would never have ever even thought he was inappropriate with my oldest. Not ever. I talked to my daughter daily and would have known something was wrong. I am now single again and will not leave my kids with ANYONE but my parents!!! Incredibly selfish. I have to miss events (not birthday parties) because I work my tail off so that not only I can provide a roof and hot food but their various after school activities. Thank you for your thought provoking insights. I don’t miss that comment it is very eye opening
I agree with that 💯 I really believe that they would not allow Maddie to go for sleepovers bc they didn't want Maddie to tell anyone what was going on & Jenn should be in jail no way she didn't know what was going on she even says about Woody Allen situation so that tells me she definitely knows what was going on but now she's claiming she doesn't know anything,🧐
That speaks volumes the woody Allen statement
This part was wild!!!
Her gut knew, she must of seen signs, I wonder I'd SS told Jen that her mother has drilled it into that men are bad, she doesn't tell the police of anything that maybe suspicious cos she knows she F up and ignored it and doesn't want to admit it.
Almost 4 weeks late, and the Mothers not concerned . Jen Soto knew everything
Exactly Jenn knew everything Why would they track her period unless she was having SEX so Jenn definitely knew & allowed it by sending her to bed with her 38 yr old Ex boyfriend but calls him her partner like what she lied about everything they caught her in so much & gave her a deal this woman is the most horrible mother I've ever seen that ALLOWED SS to rape her daughter I feel in my heart she knew exactly what happened
I agree- I wish this officer would’ve followed up after the Woody Allen comment asking what brought this topic up or why she would say something like that-
Not only was Jen home but she also happily or readily handed her kid over.
Gisela (GTC) recommended this site and I am so glad I came. I am so impressed with your analysis. There is a standard of care and credibility you bring to this community. Thanks for all the hard work u put in to these videos.
Glad to have you around. S👀 has a wealth of insight to draw from in his background. Hope you stick around. Much different perspective than others, especially since he's still an active detective in NY.
Yes, I came over too because of Gisela!
What you said about Maddie was touching and BEAUTIFUL ❤ Your channel is Fantastic!
Grizzly here. I'm so glad I took G's advice to check you out. Now I'm a Grizzly with Strategic eyes!
@@traceyparrett7683 same
Same🎉
Me too
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Me 5!! ❤
Jen Soto just admitted that "She always told him that "THIS WOULD ALWAYS TURN INTO A WOODY ALLEN SITUATION" Yes, she saw what was happening and she was concerned. And also noticed that she started her next statement after that ''''Where the stepdaughter falls..." she trails off and corrects herself by saying "'Where the stepdad grooms the child...." She is self correcting to say the correct thing in order as to the situation of her missing daughter- not blame her daughter, but blaming him now.
I think that detective was "cold blooded" because he had seen the evidence and he was irritated with her cold blooded responses. Clearly this is a woman who is more concerned in covering her lover's tracks instead of mourning her daughter. I like that detective.
How can she talk about the size of his P hurting her, knowing what he did to her daughter. Not even thinking about how it effected Maddie at all.
None!
Trying to think for JS -- better her than me?
@@ScrappyXFL😢😢
It was disgusting. I think she is a complete degenerate.
She's a disgusting human being
The hypochondriac makes me sick.5 years of SA of her daughter under Her roof total news to her, apparently.
You don’t have to like her or believe her, but medical professionals evaluate conditions and prescribe medications
@darla896 A lot of doctors are easily convinced by patients.You just have to shop around and I'd say Jenn Soto has found a very accommodating health professional 💊 💊 💊 on tap.
I don’t believe all doctors have the patient best interest at heart some push pills etc
@@darla896they also get duped regularly by people seeking certain diagnosis'. it's common.
@@y2ksurvivor ok, you could have a point there. I’m certain mh diagnosis would be much more difficult to prove with definitive scientific evidence
Her fear is Maddie running away with him? Proof enough that she knew!
Her tone is almost scary when it changes and goes ice cold
Starting to keep some notes. These are some about the sleeping arrangements from this interview. Ridiculous how she changes her story on how often Maddy slept with her. And she clearly admits she knew it wasn't right AND that she was suspicious there was more going on by comparing their relationship to Woody Allen. No one can deny she didn't have suspicions...at the very least. Anyone who does is not being intellectually honest!
Investigator: How did it start?
-"Maddie has ALWAYS slept in bed w/me. She's always slept in my room."
-Jen says Maddie only slept with her in this Kissimmee apartment. Had her own room in North Port.
-Then says during times living with SS it would be the 3 of them in bed in the master bedroom downstairs.
-Wasn't until June of last year they broke up and she told SS she no longer wanted to sleep w/him and to move upstairs.
- "Maddy pretty much slept with me all the time".
-Can count on one hand how many times Maddy went upstairs to sleep with SS alone.
-**Jen said she wasn't comfortable with it. "No, it doesn't look right, it doesn't seem right, Maddie. And I told her she had to sleep with me."** (This is a straight admittance to knowing it wasn't right).
- But there were times they begged to stay up late to watch movies and I would be too tired so would say "Fine, just this *once*".
Investigator: When did you start becoming comfortable with it?
- "I don't know if I was ever comfortable with it."
But you told them to go Sunday night to sleep together...
-"I did. That was a selfish move on my part. It's because I wanted a good night sleep, I didn't want her kicking me, or rolling onto me, or waking me up. Or to hear her alarm so that it woke me up. I wanted to keep sleeping until I needed to sleep cus I just had not, with my training schedule I just had not had a good night sleep. My medication was out of wack. I was feeling funny and not like myself. And I knew that I needed another night sleep and my medication in my body like asap. So I needed to go to bed. So that was...I wasn't even comfortable sending her that night but I did it for my own selfish reasons".
Did you know...? Redacted* He's never told you or said anything to you about it?
"No, if anything I always told him that my biggest fear is that this would turn into a Woody Allen situation where the step daughter fall....or where the Dad grooms the child and the child then turns 18 and ends up running away with him. I told him like that was my biggest fear and that I don't want that ever happening. Like you can't do that do me! Like..."
Strategic’s best comment = “that’s being a hobbit”.
O my goodness 😢😢😢😢 that exultation of Maddie in the end...."Madeline Soto was one of the strongest persons you will hear off! "😢😢😢😢
Strategic, I just want you to know the way you honor Maddie's life; especially around the 2:20 mark and before is so beautiful and commendable. I agree with everyone of your thoughts& opinions on this case. Thank you for making it clear that MADDIE MATTERED IN THIS WORLD! AND WE ALL LOVE HER AND SHE NEVER DESERVED THIS LIFE HER SO CALLED MOM GAVE HER! 💚💜💚💜💚💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜PRAYERS FOR MADDIE
Bingo!!! LOVE HOW HE CALLS HER OUT!!!
She woke up to take care of the dog, but didn’t walk out the room to say “ good morning Maddie”
funny how stephens friend said they were extremely kinky people and even said he felt like jen abused madeline too and stephen stayed with her because of what she did for him…
and her friend even said she was outspoken and uncomfortable about her sexual business in front of her friends too!! and she clearly had no shame in front of detectives giving details so casually…
yet she says it was vanilla…
sure jen.
where did the friend said that
@LoveFlowers1 Hi how doni find this is the youtuber just called GHI? I cant find them
@@amsie_86grey hughes investigates (he’s honestly pretty terrible creator ngl, but his interviews with stephens friends are worth listening to and very eye opening 😢❤)
@@LoveFlowers1i feel like jen was a lesbian and her and stephen actually had a transactional situation ship between them that was $ based… i think she protected stephen not because she loved him but because she was protecting herself as well… i never got a romantic vibe from them at all, they’re scammers imo
@mamakass4132 it was talked about in one of the friend or tenant interviews that she is bisexual.
"I always told him" she knew what was going on
She knew !
It doesn’t matter what her disabilities are, as the custodial parent she has a legal obligation to protect her child. She approved, encouraged and facilitated the abuse of her child, by her own admission. Therefore, she is culpable in the abuse and death of her child.
If my daughter is missing, I won't misremember
Never.
Ya think? 😂Had to laugh, "I won't misremember"... um, no doubt!
@ScrappyXFL right lol. Just a dunce. Seemed like she didnt know her daughter at all. She knows nothing when it comes to Maddie but is so detailed when it comes to Stefan
@@EbonyBrown-k1kIt's disgusting the way she treated Maddie and the way that her boyfriend did too. She acted like she didn't matter to her at all in comparison to Stephan.
You’d remember and you wouldn’t be trying to mentally search for details and consider events after telling your story fifty times. You would know every fact after telling people what happened over and over.
She’s acting like it’s the first time she’s telling the story every time.
She was clearly thinking about the Woody Allen effect then she claims not to have suspected ANYTHING between SS and Maddie. She is contradicting herself. It's like a confession. Let's hope the police take note of her words.
Stearns childhood friend said they were both into kink and he was with her because she’d do what he wanted. Add that with the statements of his ex girlfriends; “ he wanted me to dress up like a little girl” , “he wanted me to play dead” “ he was so rough”
She literally said to Stearns father regarding the SA PICS that he was “ frustrated “ Jen threw him out bc he was too close to Maddy not because he was MESSY! “The Woody Allen Effect”fear… then she kept pursuing him - letting the devil back in over ad over. She put his needs before Naddies. Period.
We definitely have some real hard hitters covering the Maddie Sota case. Great jobs!! All of them! I watch them all! ❤❤❤❤
She didn't want sleepovers because she knew her boyfriend would be eyeballing those girls.
The way I did a sleepover was when my husband was out of town for the weekend and no males were in my house. She knew what he was doing
The Woody Allen issues statement made my skin crawl big time! I have a feeling Jen was always jealous of Maddys beauty and her sparkling personality, so she was worried that Scumbag SS would chose Maddy over her, and apparently he did… Very disgusting and vile to even for her to say that was her biggest fear that would happen. Jen you have a sick mind and soul. 😒💜💚
Exactly
Based on that statement alone, she had to have known something was wrong with their relationship.
She keep using the work WE....as STEPHAN AND ME
And he wasn’t even living there!
Yup, she saw herself and Stephan as one unit, apparently.😢
I really like your no bs call outs of Jenn's statements.
What are some statistics on a child being abused in the home for that long going unnoticed? Especially with Jenn being home so much.
She had to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly! She can’t even use the excuse that she was working a lot. She was home more than not. How? So many times so many years????
It’s very easy to google the stats. 1 in 5 girls, and 1 in 20 boys are victims of this kind of abuse. They aren’t usually ended unless they will be likely to tell. Maddie was likely about to tell. She probably wasn’t fully drugged that night when this beast took advantage of her this last time. She was probably hurt and crying. He panicked and ended it.
Bless you and the lives u touch
Yeah you cracked this case Strategic eyes 👀 💯 she told him ' you can't ever do that to me'.She knew the Woody Allen movie and she KNEW her own home situation.
NOT ONLY WAS JENN HOME MOST OF THE TIME DURING THE ABUSE BUT THIS ABUSE TOOK PLACE MOSTLY IN THE SUMMER TIME AND OCCURED MOSTLY ON THE SAME DAYS EACH WEEK!
I don’t think it’s fair to blame bipolar disorder for her unforgivable behavior and decisions.
The meds tho that are used to treat that are known to cause you not to care, be numb and sleep a lot. Not compatible with being a parent especially a special needs child
Yes bipolar doesn't make someone choose men over there children that's on Jen. she's a trained teacher too and still didn't safeguard her daughter.
Right on,Stratigic Eyes
In another interview jenn tells them
maddie makes “game day decision”when getting ready for school. They specifically asked her if she picked her clothes out the night before school, Jenn said NO!
In another interview they asked her if she saw Maddie Monday and she said no. The cop then asks how do you know what she was wearing then? She quickly replies Maddie told me the night before what she was going to wear...nothing but lies she contradicts herself all the time.
Yes I remember hearing that in one of the interviews also.
I noticed that too!!
Great show Strategic !😊
Yes. Her reaction to Maddie's picture. That would had impacted me. I wouldn't had been able to go on talking because I would've been consumed by grief and anger! And even if I had feelings for Stephon I would've wanted to hurt him. Where is her anger? Where is her grieve? She keeps talking to Detective. This detective has her number and served her a does of reality on a silver platter just as she/Jen handed Maddie to Stephon on a silver platter. A man with deviant sexual proclivities which she said no to but she allowed to sleep with her daughter. Jen wants to play naive. No. She knew exactly what was going on by her own Woody Allen admissions. I love that detective. I want to buy him a coffee and some donuts!
Jen had 2 failed relationships, a single parent on disability, obese, has the surgery, loses weight, meets Stearns, falls under his spell into her own fantasy world of finally meeting, “ the one” her fear gets triggered and she ignores/ Denys her suspicions bc she doesn’t want to lose him- does all kinds of things to keep him, throws him out, won’t keep him out, all the signs( sleeps thru them) where was their ANY TIME for Maddie’s emotional needs?
Enjoy and appreciate your analysis and videos! thank you!
The menstrual talk reminds me of that Saturday when SS was so upset and MS was so upset according to her friend ? Could this be it .
Just as a random observer, I hear a woman feigning innocence. Fake crying, fake hysterics…it just seems so odd to me.
You are so professional and knowledgeable.I love watching your show because I can trust everything that you say.That means a lot to me and others.
Jenn knew & LE knows !
Great info. Your eyes really see what I don’t.
Replay crew from Harlem. Was waiting all day to get off work to see this. I really appreciate your commentary and LE knowledge and experience.
I am concerned about Munchausen's because Jen said in this interview "we are all the same". So many illnesses and so much medication 🤔
She’s a habitual liar. Her lies are like an onion. Layers and layers of lies. Flat out Lies!
I really appreciate you Strategic more then you would ever know. 😊
Chicago Illinois
Came from Grizzly and Plunder's channel and so glad I did !!
I found this channel a few days ago and I am impressed . I clearly must become a member.
It so all about her .
I think JS was alarmed that MS did not get her period ..She was tracking it
It’s actually quite normal for mothers to track their daughters cycles, absolutely nothing wrong with knowing what’s going on with your daughter cycle for very many reasons
@@jaggybee4704it just seems out of character for Jen Soto to be concerned about Maddie. She doesn’t appear to be the nurturing sort. I don’t think she was making Maddie breakfast every morning either.
@@catherinegrace2366can’t track her grades or go to parent teacher conferences, but tracks her period. Despicable…
@@catherinegrace2366 very true!
Replay crew in Seattle ❤ Strategic you nailed it, Madeline was strong
Great show 🎉
Gutted, I missed this LIVE darn it! Rewatch crew the moment I can watch it in its entirety.
They can’t even confirm that Jen spent anytime with Maddie and Stefan that night. The roommates didn’t see her or hear her that night. Only Angelica heard a thump in the night.
Within a short few minutes JS gives totally conflicting testimony: On the one hand she is talking about Woody Allen situation: and then she flips to totally trusting this man as a father figure that loves Maddie like she does. I cant with this woman.
STRATEGIC I lost my son suddenly also...since his death
..I too am on a bipolar med,an anxiety med,a med for dyslexia...My point I raised 3 sonsi have NEVER BEEN KNOCKED OUT,OR UNABLE TO THINK....All I can say is you take ur meds,sane time every day...eat a fruit, drink water ..and keep hustlin!!! As a mother,I dont get to give up and be selfish 😮...IF I WAS TO NOT FWT UP ONE DAY,my two sons living would give up as well....moms!! We are warriors daily!
Thanks!
Love your show! Your commentary is so right on❤️
Thank you so much for your hard work! I love your show.
I agree with you 💯%!!!
Watching always from UK. Found your channel 2 months ago and now cant stop watching you. Your amazing x
Confession is right!
Thanks
There's no tracking for Jen BS 😡 Woody Allen! She Knew and didn't care. Don't do that to Me 🤬
Much respect Strategic. My grandpa was a corrections officer at State pen for decades. He had a pair of gloves with metal at the knuckles, that he'd use on cons acting up. What a complete badass. Mamaw would make people run too. She'd loud out dirty laundry in public, she knew whom was dirty.
She cleared out one third attending the auction house before we'd made it to the threshold. People were scurrying out the side door, double time. Ah, the days.
I absolutely love your comments and attitude. God bless you and yours. Wish there were more grounded people. Evil is as easy as it is weak. Thanks for your time and effort on these awesome videos. Let's take a bite outta crime...
She said regarding the Woody Allen thing, "you can't do that to ME!" What about Maddie??!! WTF
Thank you so much from uk
Massive love from the UK 🇬🇧 ❤ I always really look forwards to your insights, experience and wisdom - thank you for all your hard work
While I appreciate Plunder has a right to watermark the audio she partly paid for with The Docket & GHI, it is terribly distracting to have her dropping in so often saying 'Plunder true crime audio' throughout. Respectfully it's overkill and it detracts from the focus and real reason we are all here and that is to seek justice for Madeline Soto.
I agree 💯
Love your channel and this great community.
You touch our hearts ❤Stratigic
Let's give her the benefit of the doubt that she didn't know any abuse was happening. The minute these thoughts/fears came to her mind was the time to REMOVE Maddie from the situation. If this is the case, she ignored her intuition and failed Maddie for her own selfish reasons.
To me tracking her cycles is so strange. Why would you need to track a 13 year olds period if you know she isn’t sexually active? Screams she’s accountable of knowing somethings was going on
Now that we know that Maddie did not get dropped off and the story about not NOT wanting to drive in SS jelloppy....why did Jen lead with that story so strong it the initial interviews
Dude, last night saw someone post the cell gps data, it was unreal. Not just locations, exact times of the pings, lines w/ ping dots... I had to walk that off it was so disgusting. And the DA knows way more than we do... 🤬 (edit) Included both SS and MS's metadata, like a freaking stalker
@@fantasiazplatkami I doubt that...she was not in love with him she was not attracted to him...they were partners in crime.....I am waiting for it to come out that she was the madame !!! Stephan probably convinced her to allow Maddie to be exploit for CSAM... prob even convinced her it was her idea. Prob start out as feet picture...prob convince her she was Maddie "stunt double" because they looked so similar
@@ScrappyXFLWOWED 😡🛑
Lost for WORDS 🛑💯”!
@IamthatIam54321 wow. That's spot on. I really do think it was that way. She got her head all big when he told her that Maddie looked just like her. Smh disgusting
I think Jenn corrects SS about what Maddie was wearing (shorts vs blue pants) because Jenn put on the green hoodie with the hood up and walked into the church parking lot to appear like Maddie was alive at the time.
I believe that Jenn was involved the entire time.
That’s why she corrects SS, she remembered wearing shorts not pants that morning.
Thank you. 🇺🇸🕊️🇺🇸
I’m a first time listener and I’ve enjoyed your commentary!
I have listened to these recordings on a few channels to get everyone's opinions on them. Thank you for the video 🫶
2:18:04 I am with you here. They'd been drugging her up for symptoms they created. And she became invisible to the system that believes the mother and her shadey "boyfriend".
Women who love psychopaths is a book that comes to mind- end up doing things they never imagined doing
cant wait for the trial
She says please tell it's so much.
sounded forced the way she said it
Yes, everyone is reacting emotionally and biased
I suffer from depression, anxiety and almost commuted suicide. No man alive or dead will ever touch my children. 24 niece and 26 year nephew. Even my niece and nephew sleep in different bedrooms. I had a stepfather who
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