It's not exactly my wheelhouse but I wanted to share my layman's experience. The newer alternators don't have the white wire, as you well know. It was a little tricky bypassing the old regulator. Thanks, Mick.
I'm impressed you cut that pulley nut so well and precise. I know it's wrong, but my first thought would have been to notch the damn fan 😂. You did great work all around. I'm not sure if I'd use that bracket kit, it reminds me too much of an erector set. But if it works, why not?
Getting that bracket all lined up was the hardest part of the job. Cutting down that nut wasn't too bad if you take your time. Thanks for the nice comment, Seth!👍😄
Well dang. I just got my CJ3A back. My dad did the conversion but didnt delete out and spliced into some of the original wiring...which today caused sparks some 17 years later. XD. But now I need to check for spark for each plug and soon maybe that L134 will be puring away. Seeing this video showed that I was at least doing everything right while messing in the shop today.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring we got it going with a short of starting fluid. After confirming that fun way for spark, then that carb was working I pulled the fuel pump off.... took it apart inspected the diaphragm... so took a deep breath and blew the fuel back through the line and got her fired up. Sadly the starter chose to act up... so tomorrow taking it off and inspecting and deciding on either getting it rebuilt or get a new one. But shes getting closer. Need to look at running proper length wires and a new ignition soon as for testing the ignition is dangling on the passenger side. But one little issue at a time. But the engine runs strong that's for sure. The engine now is 27 years from when it was rebuilt with roughly 200 miles on it. Though it would be nice to take it out and get it cleaned up and freshly painted.
Thanks. Was working on a 81 CJ and couldn’t figure out what was doing what. This helped tremendously. Some genius reworked the electrical system and fried about half the electrical wiring. They also tore out the vacuum hoses. Thanks to this video I reworked mine to at least a useable and color coded system. Thanks
Doing some catching up since it’s a holiday. Dint get notified of this one. Nice guitar playing Tom. Good old fashion generators. It was much simpler to work on engines wasn’t it? Nice video well done Tom. Have a great Labor Day guys.
Thanks, John! These old vehicles are really fun to work on and bring me back to the 70's when I had my first car. I was always working on something on it and then slowly cars were less and less user friendly as far as working on them goes. Changing the oil on a modern car is about all that people can can do now and that's barely even worth it. I've been playing the guitar for 45 years but don't really play too much these days. Thanks for watching!
Working on cars was fun back then LOL computers made it more fuel efficient but it costs way more to maintain. You should play guitar more often. Nice touch👍
Hello I was looking to see if you have any info on the alternator you used possibly a Model number. I appreciate all your help I have a 1962 CJ5 Willys
You can use a one wire Delco alternator. I have a re-manufactured one that cost about $45. I don't know the exact model number and the Jeep is 900 miles away from where I am now. Don't worry about the white wire in the video as most one wire alternators won't have that. The A200 bracket is the most difficult part to setup and it took a while to get it right. Feel free to ask more questions and I will try and answer them.
I have to replace a generator on a 1950 plymouth with a 6 volt alternator , (cant find generator to replace old one). Is this the same way to hook up for a positive ground 6 volt system??? _Don't_ want to convert to 12 Volt
I don't know the answer to your question and don't want to steer you wrong. I'm sure some research will help you get it figured out. Thanks for the comment, DragonSlayer!
Do you have a 6 volt system? If so I don't know exactly what you would need. Mine is a 12 volt system so I didn't need any resistors. The regulator is built into the alternator. Thanks for the comment, I hope this helps.
I don't remember where I bought that kit, but, honestly, I think I paid a bit too much for it anyway. What you want to look for is the A200 alternator bracket. There may be other brands as well. You should be able to find it for around $45. The alternator is an AC Delco single wire 63 amp refurbished unit that you should be able to easily get at most parts stores for about $50. The last thing would be a length of 10 gauge stranded wire to go from the alternator to the starter, about 4 feet on mine. The white wire won't be there on a single wire alternator so you can dismiss that. The alternator has an internal voltage regulator and will charge the battery back through the main positive battery cable that goes to the starter. Make sense?
@@TomandJulieMineExploring ,. Thanks for your response, I'm talking about the ignition coil, if it was set up for six volts should not need a resistance to lower the voltage to the points?
Very helpful, thanks Tom. I like the guitar intro as well. My 65 CJ5 has some unknown alternator in it (no identifiable markings left) and the battery isn't getting charged at all. I may just put in a new one as you did. What alternator did you use, do you remember how much it was, and are you happy with it? Thanks in advance.
It's a rebuilt Delco and I honestly don't remember how much it was or where I bought it. I will try to look it up in the next couple days. It's been working well. Thanks for the comment!
I bought the complete kit from vintagejeepparts.com It' called kit-alt12v. The price now is $209.99 and includes the alternator with internal voltage regulator, mounting bracket, wiring and new coil(which I didn't use).
@@TomandJulieMineExploring I'm working now on installing the alternator. I see yours is mounted in the bottom rear with a horizontal bolt. I have only the two threaded holes in the side of the block. My jeep had a Hi-Lo Jeep hydraulic plow pump mounted in those two holes. I took the pump out since I haven't used it in 10 years anyway. I finally figured out what yours is bolted to in the back by looking at an extra L4-134 I have, and seeing that it has the same bracket yours has. So I took it off the L-head and bolted it on. Next step is to copy your mounting bracket configuration. I see that my pulley alignment is the same as yours and the front of the alternator pulley bolt is really close to the fan, as yours was. How did you get that front alternator nut off to saw a part of it off? I put an allen wrench in the center of the shaft and wasn't able to budge the 1" nut. Tried some Aero-Kroil. No luck yet. It'll be great when I get this working!
I fooled around with my original guage for a long time before giving up on it. I replaced the guage and sending unit. I finally got an aftermarket guage that mounts below the dash and it now works. I think a bad ground can cause your guage to peg. Look under the driver's seat to see if you have a ground wire hooked up.
I noticed that shiny new alternator in the last video and wondered if you were going to address it. Did you also put a new water pump on? It looked like there were some other new parts there. I like the way you are starting these videos out by playing your guitar.
Yes, that is a new waterpump. We took off the water pump that came with the Jeep and it has a good sized chunck of the impeller broken off. We replaced it and rebuilt the carburetor, but didn't make videos of those. We put on the alternator before we replaced the engine mounts. Good eye, at least someone is paying attention. I've been playing guitar and other stringed instruments for almost 50 years and although I don't play a lot these days I still enjoy jamming a little. Glad you liked it and thanks for the comment!
So far we're not going to do any internal engine work. The compression checked out just a little low but good enough for now. It burns a little oil but I'm hoping that with a couple oil changes the rings might start working better. It was severely neglected as far as maintenance goes before we got it.
Any way you could help me I have 1951 cj3a and I am just confused and I need help to convert 6v to 12v I can email or text or anything I just need some help
I have no experience with 6 volt systems. With that being said you can ask me anything you want right here in a comment. Maybe I can help or someone else might chime in.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring so I have 6v and I want to convert to 12 v but I don’t know how I saw your video and the wires are getting me confused so idk I wanna show the pictures of the engine bay and the wire and if you could tell me which one will go where thank you
Nice job Tom, I had a rotating electrical shop for 14 years, you explained it well and fully.
It's not exactly my wheelhouse but I wanted to share my layman's experience. The newer alternators don't have the white wire, as you well know. It was a little tricky bypassing the old regulator. Thanks, Mick.
I'm impressed you cut that pulley nut so well and precise. I know it's wrong, but my first thought would have been to notch the damn fan 😂. You did great work all around. I'm not sure if I'd use that bracket kit, it reminds me too much of an erector set. But if it works, why not?
Getting that bracket all lined up was the hardest part of the job. Cutting down that nut wasn't too bad if you take your time. Thanks for the nice comment, Seth!👍😄
Well dang. I just got my CJ3A back. My dad did the conversion but didnt delete out and spliced into some of the original wiring...which today caused sparks some 17 years later. XD. But now I need to check for spark for each plug and soon maybe that L134 will be puring away. Seeing this video showed that I was at least doing everything right while messing in the shop today.
Hope you get it going, Casey. I'm thinking about doing a top end rebuild this summer to fix my oil burning problem. Fun to drive.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring we got it going with a short of starting fluid. After confirming that fun way for spark, then that carb was working I pulled the fuel pump off.... took it apart inspected the diaphragm... so took a deep breath and blew the fuel back through the line and got her fired up. Sadly the starter chose to act up... so tomorrow taking it off and inspecting and deciding on either getting it rebuilt or get a new one. But shes getting closer. Need to look at running proper length wires and a new ignition soon as for testing the ignition is dangling on the passenger side. But one little issue at a time. But the engine runs strong that's for sure. The engine now is 27 years from when it was rebuilt with roughly 200 miles on it. Though it would be nice to take it out and get it cleaned up and freshly painted.
@@crj5106 Sounds like you're on the right track.
Thanks. Was working on a 81 CJ and couldn’t figure out what was doing what. This helped tremendously. Some genius reworked the electrical system and fried about half the electrical wiring. They also tore out the vacuum hoses. Thanks to this video I reworked mine to at least a useable and color coded system. Thanks
Glad that you found the video useful. Hope you get everything working correctly.
This was fantastic!!!!
Thank you. The newer alternators will just have one wire.
Doing some catching up since it’s a holiday. Dint get notified of this one. Nice guitar playing Tom. Good old fashion generators. It was much simpler to work on engines wasn’t it? Nice video well done Tom. Have a great Labor Day guys.
Nice conversion. 👍
Thanks, John! These old vehicles are really fun to work on and bring me back to the 70's when I had my first car. I was always working on something on it and then slowly cars were less and less user friendly as far as working on them goes. Changing the oil on a modern car is about all that people can can do now and that's barely even worth it. I've been playing the guitar for 45 years but don't really play too much these days. Thanks for watching!
Working on cars was fun back then LOL computers made it more fuel efficient but it costs way more to maintain. You should play guitar more often. Nice touch👍
dosnt the wht wire have a diode to control the direction of flow -not a resister?-not sure
Most alternators will just have one wire and won't have the white wire.
Hello I was looking to see if you have any info on the alternator you used possibly a Model number. I appreciate all your help I have a 1962 CJ5 Willys
You can use a one wire Delco alternator. I have a re-manufactured one that cost about $45. I don't know the exact model number and the Jeep is 900 miles away from where I am now. Don't worry about the white wire in the video as most one wire alternators won't have that. The A200 bracket is the most difficult part to setup and it took a while to get it right. Feel free to ask more questions and I will try and answer them.
I have to replace a generator on a 1950 plymouth with a 6 volt alternator , (cant find generator to replace old one). Is this the same way to hook up for a positive ground 6 volt system??? _Don't_ want to convert to 12 Volt
I don't know the answer to your question and don't want to steer you wrong. I'm sure some research will help you get it figured out. Thanks for the comment, DragonSlayer!
@@TomandJulieMineExploring Thank you for taking the time to answer. I will try again. Thank you
Great tutorial! Thanks for sharing!
Stay blessed
Thanks for the comment, BCB!
Do I need to put the resistor in? If so what kind would I need to buy?
Do you have a 6 volt system? If so I don't know exactly what you would need. Mine is a 12 volt system so I didn't need any resistors. The regulator is built into the alternator. Thanks for the comment, I hope this helps.
Tom Wigren I have a 12 volt system so I guess I wouldn’t need one then. Great! Thanks
You're welcome, Ryan. I don't think you need it.
Hi Tom!
Great video!
Could you tell me where you got the Alternator and the bracket and what the amperage is on the alternator.
Thanks!
I don't remember where I bought that kit, but, honestly, I think I paid a bit too much for it anyway. What you want to look for is the A200 alternator bracket. There may be other brands as well. You should be able to find it for around $45. The alternator is an AC Delco single wire 63 amp refurbished unit that you should be able to easily get at most parts stores for about $50. The last thing would be a length of 10 gauge stranded wire to go from the alternator to the starter, about 4 feet on mine. The white wire won't be there on a single wire alternator so you can dismiss that. The alternator has an internal voltage regulator and will charge the battery back through the main positive battery cable that goes to the starter. Make sense?
@@TomandJulieMineExploring Thank you!
Way to show how to wire in the ignition wire. No one shows that👍
Thanks for the comment, Curly.
Thanks for the information happy new year to you and yours
Thanks, Douglas. Happy New Year to you as well.
What about the distributor connections, a resistance is not necessary to avoid burning the condenser or points?
The alternator has a built in voltage regulator if that is what you are wondering about.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring ,. Thanks for your response, I'm talking about the ignition coil, if it was set up for six volts should not need a resistance to lower the voltage to the points?
This was always a 12 volt system.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring .. Sorry my bad, I have a 1955 and I'm in the process to install alternator and make it 12 vollts.
No problem, Carlos. Good luck on the conversion.
Enjoyed your guitar playing sounds good to me
Thanks, Douglas.
Very helpful, thanks Tom. I like the guitar intro as well. My 65 CJ5 has some unknown alternator in it (no identifiable markings left) and the battery isn't getting charged at all. I may just put in a new one as you did. What alternator did you use, do you remember how much it was, and are you happy with it? Thanks in advance.
It's a rebuilt Delco and I honestly don't remember how much it was or where I bought it. I will try to look it up in the next couple days. It's been working well. Thanks for the comment!
I bought the complete kit from vintagejeepparts.com
It' called kit-alt12v. The price now is $209.99 and includes the alternator with internal voltage regulator, mounting bracket, wiring and new coil(which I didn't use).
@@TomandJulieMineExploring Thank you, Tom.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring I'm working now on installing the alternator. I see yours is mounted in the bottom rear with a horizontal bolt. I have only the two threaded holes in the side of the block. My jeep had a Hi-Lo Jeep hydraulic plow pump mounted in those two holes. I took the pump out since I haven't used it in 10 years anyway. I finally figured out what yours is bolted to in the back by looking at an extra L4-134 I have, and seeing that it has the same bracket yours has. So I took it off the L-head and bolted it on. Next step is to copy your mounting bracket configuration. I see that my pulley alignment is the same as yours and the front of the alternator pulley bolt is really close to the fan, as yours was. How did you get that front alternator nut off to saw a part of it off? I put an allen wrench in the center of the shaft and wasn't able to budge the 1" nut. Tried some Aero-Kroil. No luck yet. It'll be great when I get this working!
Electric impact wrench works. I have the one Lowe's sells. Thanks for the comment.
What about your gas gauge does it still work mine pegs out all the way past full mark
I fooled around with my original guage for a long time before giving up on it. I replaced the guage and sending unit. I finally got an aftermarket guage that mounts below the dash and it now works. I think a bad ground can cause your guage to peg. Look under the driver's seat to see if you have a ground wire hooked up.
Hi Tom. Has the alternator continued to work well?
Yes, perfectly.
Well done!
Thanks!
Love those old Jeep's what year
'62
Okay job
Thank you.
14.2 is industry standard for alt output, 14.7 is a bit high but should never cause issue, it will give you brighter lights at night.
Glad to hear that as I don’t want to overcharge the battery. It should help when running the winch then. Thanks for your input, Mick!
I noticed that shiny new alternator in the last video and wondered if you were going to address it. Did you also put a new water pump on? It looked like there were some other new parts there. I like the way you are starting these videos out by playing your guitar.
Yes, that is a new waterpump. We took off the water pump that came with the Jeep and it has a good sized chunck of the impeller broken off. We replaced it and rebuilt the carburetor, but didn't make videos of those. We put on the alternator before we replaced the engine mounts. Good eye, at least someone is paying attention. I've been playing guitar and other stringed instruments for almost 50 years and although I don't play a lot these days I still enjoy jamming a little. Glad you liked it and thanks for the comment!
You really are putting a lot into this Jeep. Are you going to have to do any engine work?
So far we're not going to do any internal engine work. The compression checked out just a little low but good enough for now. It burns a little oil but I'm hoping that with a couple oil changes the rings might start working better. It was severely neglected as far as maintenance goes before we got it.
good mornig
Good morning.
Any way you could help me I have 1951 cj3a and I am just confused and I need help to convert 6v to 12v I can email or text or anything I just need some help
I have no experience with 6 volt systems. With that being said you can ask me anything you want right here in a comment. Maybe I can help or someone else might chime in.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring so I have 6v and I want to convert to 12 v but I don’t know how I saw your video and the wires are getting me confused so idk I wanna show the pictures of the engine bay and the wire and if you could tell me which one will go where thank you
@@TomandJulieMineExploring I am not able to post pictures here
jwigren40@gmail.com You can send me a photo at the email address.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring will do
It’s worth .50 cents
What is "it" that you're commenting about?
@@TomandJulieMineExploring the value of a the old generator
@Dieselpwr Really? I heard they had some value. I guess I'll just hang on to it then.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring scrap I dont hold on to anything then I’d be a pack rat I must have thrown away allmost entire jeep cj
@@Dieselpwr The generator still works well. I just thought an alternator would work better.
Should be 13.8-14.2
I agree. It's a bit high.
That's a m38a1 pully
Not anymore. Thanks for the comment!