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It's a shame that all these years later FPS games haven't evolved beyond F.E.A.R.,even many technical aspects such as lighting, AI, voice callouts and environmental effects. Back in 2005 one would've expected 2020 games to be practically alien technology yet we're still stuck with the old, just with nicer coats of paint, higher resolution textures and better shaders.
I mean, many technically have, but the issue is that part of what made FEAR's ai great was the level and audio design. While Fear's levels are a bit bland and empty looking, it helped make sure that anything that could mess up the ai's pathfinding was either nonexistent or very unlikely to cause problems. The same can not be said for a lot of modern games today.
Agrees sadly. It should've just ended at the first game and it's two expansions. Easily my favorite game of all time. The sequels just couldn't live up .
I really liked FEAR 2, but definitely for different reasons than FEAR 1... Maybe if they just labeled it as something else ? Also it's DLC (REBORN) was great
@@Hriskataaa It WAS originally going to be named just Project Origins because the original developers lost the rights to the FEAR name. But then they got the name back, and the name 'Project Origins' was voted on by fans, so they decided to keep it as a subtitle. There's a great video about the history of FEAR by, I think, the Gamers/Gaming History (? Something like that) channel. Maybe it would've been better if it remained just Project Origins.
I disagree with you when it comes to F.E.A.R Extraction Point. As for level design it is more varied than the main game, it makes significant improvements to AI(more on that later),ramps up the horror and opressive atmosphere and it does not fuck with the story(presenting a smaller and more hopeless escape story).As for Perseus mandate: it was fun because it still had F.E.A.R gameplay, it was ugly as fuck,tried to tell an ambitious but poorly executed story and is overall fine. AI: you kind of neglected what really makes the AI special when compared to anything else on the market. Fear: the AI's goal is to eliminate the threat and not just the player. This means that when the individual is threatened by a grenade or gunfire his primary objective becomes survival(Extraction point improves this). I also see it as wierd that you rant about vivendi "not getting it" when monolith completely abandoned everything that made F.E.A.R good when it came to F.E.A.R 2. The enemies were retarded,ALL the guns were weak, the lighting was no longer anything special and the horror was basically gone. Conclusion: As it stands I consider F.E.A.R Extraction Point the pinnacle(gameplay wise) of first person shooters. Change my mind.
Yeah, especially disagree on the weapons, the laser was fun to slice people apart with- and he doesn't even mention how bad the weapons in Perseus Mandate are(there are weapons in PM that aren't in EP)
@@SuperBoyboys The Laser carbine is quite unique:as it doesn't just fire "laser bolts" but actually works sort of like a real laser. And the minigun is just incredible. It is the king of miniguns.
Katrina is forever going to be a grim reminder of our desperation to find the enemy making us forget to protect our own. Even if that levee was un-savable, the evacuation effort could have saved thousands of lives if it was taken seriously. Heckuva job, Brownie.
@@Nolant. politician don't care about people period, they say what they want you to hear to gain power and the try to stay in power by choosing to side with whatever is the popular opinion at the time
He ate their flesh to get their knowledge and information, if i recall correct. Like African cannibal thing when you eat your enemy flesh and get their power.
Ooooooooh! So *that* explains the line Josh Brolin's character says from the Grindhouse movie! (I believe that double feature movie also came out in 2005 as well.)
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Reminder that John Carpenter, writer and director of the original Halloween, the Thing Remake, They Live, and Escape from New York to name a few, worked on F3AR and definitely didn't know what the series was about and helped fuck it up.
Holy shit a video about my favorite game of all time Thank you Char. I love you. The game has such a sad, complicated history, and it's a shame we'll never get another. Maybe for the best though, Because nothing will live up to the absolutely flawless masterpiece that was F.E.A.R 1.
Fear's a great way to pass time until the apocalypse ends and we finally enter the post apocalypse stage. Then we will be playing fallout in real life, so no need for video games anymore.
Funny enough a lot of people (including myself) think Extraction Point is the better Expansion Pack than Perseus Mandate. I'll be the first to say that Extraction Point wasn't perfect, but to me it felt a bit more polished than Perseus Mandate on at least a few areas. Although the introduction of a 4th Faction into the mix the Nightcrawlers was kinda interesting, specially in how eerily calm they are when all the supernatural bullshit happens when compared to Delta Force, the ATC Security team and even The Replicas themselves are freaking out and dying to it the Nightcrawlers never really raise their voice to anything bigger than just calm radio chatter. and I did have some fun with the lightning gun and the new assault rifle, parts of Perseus Mandate felt like they went on for too long, especially the mine section. but when all is said and done if you prefere Perseus Mandate that's fine, I'm not gonna say like "you have no taste" or stuff like that since I also had my fun with it so I can see where you are coming from. although there are somethings I want to clarify. F.E.A.R. isn't part of Delta Force it is it's own division in the US Army with Delta acting as backup for them, the Team in the 2nd Game, callsign Dark Signal if I remember correctly, are a part of Delta Force not F.E.A.R.
He is free to have his preferences BUT as soon as he starts just talking out of his ass he kinda stops having having that credibility as a reviewer(on the topic of F.E.A.R expansions)and devolves into 12-year-old ranting. I agree with you on Perseus Mandate completely but to say that Extraction Point is "a bit more polished" than Perseus Mandate has to be one of the greatest understatements of all time.
"Don't speak down to people like children" - Charl 2020, speaking down to people like children :D God I love the feat shotgun, shame you undersold its awesomeness in this video ;p
FEAR 1 and its expansions get at least one playthrough a year from me. I mostly agree about the shotgun; it turns my dick into a rhinocerous horn when it fires, but I hate the sense of anticlimax when it gibs an enemy. I'd rather have bitchin' ragdolls every time. On another note, I've developed a minor headcanon that Point Man's "reflexes" are actually a manifestation of a very short-range precognitive ability. Makes more sense to me than just "Oh your mom was Satan so I guess you can think fast real good"
Got all of them in a $5 bundle. First game is amazing, played some of the first expansion. Similar feel but lacks that something from the base game. But a buddy and I burned through Fear 3 in 3 hours. The whole game on the hardest difficulty. Was actually pretty fun, but as a generic shooter where we messed about the whole time and not as a Fear game. And was really short.
It's interesting you don't like Extraction Point as much as Perseus Mandate. Most FEAR reviews I've come across say the opposite, and having played them I feel the same. To me, once you revisit FEAR or move onto it's expansions, the horror loses it's edge and the game becomes a John Woo film simulation (which is a good thing). I always felt the levels of Extraction Point felt more like the core game's in terms of layout, which helps keep the combat high-octane, while in Mandate you're fighting in a lot more open areas where the AI ironically has less room to shine and just gets really tanky to compensate.
actually just replayed fear 1 on the hardest difficulty, and my go to loadout was dual pistols (main weapon) shotty and the assault rifle since it covers just about any situation, also one thing ive always wanted to know is why F.E.A.R. exists to begin with, what event caused them to be formed? what threats have they dealt with before? etc.
@@ashdoglsu MTF: Mobile Task Force(designed to contain SCP's). SCP Foundation: an organization dedicated to containing anomalous entities. SCP's: said anomalous entities.
I never felt that the (first) game was outwardly scary enough for something literally called "FEAR" -- oh, sure, there's the spooky Sadako-lite segments, but the office buildings and clone army seem kinda dry. Imagine if Dead Space was marketed as horror, but instead of Necromorphs on the Ishimura you spend 90% of the game fighting The Covenant on the station from Prey 2017. Oh, I'm sure the game is fun -- I just remember this being a little off-putting.
IT relied on a lot of "look this way to get scared" situations which don't really work in an organic plathru. I don't deny it's a good shooter but otherwise it felt really dull.
Eh, to me the dimly lit office spaces and those f'ing stealth bastards were effective. Also helps that whenever you see a shadow of something, that something is actually there, even in the scripted parts.
no mention of the first-person melee combat system that allows you to shoot somebody into a bloody mist up - close with the shotgun and then immediately jump and scissor-kick his buddy in the face ? pffft.
I'm really glad this retrospective doesn't completely write off FEAR 2 for not being as scary as the original or having ADS n' stuff. It's still a really solid shooter and I think it deserves more respect.
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You are the first person I've seen who prefers Perseus Mandate over Extraction Point (though I think you said you didn't like them period). I think they're both kind of devisive for the fact that EP is probably the closest in terms of aesthetic, scares, and atmosphere to FEAR 1 but with less locational variety, and PM has the better level design, and locations, but graphically the levels (and even the models period) are pretty bland/ low quality and lack the same atmosphere. It's a bit incredible that FEAR has aged better than it's standalone expasions developed AFTER it.
The FEAR sequels should have been completely unconnected to the first aside from the FEAR team. It would have been so interesting if each sequel you fought against a different paranormal entitiy....it would be the best SCP game ever
Fear 3 is a shame. The costco and the appartments had me clued to the screen, clinching my butt in fear. But as you said, those parts are 10% of the game and the rest is boring/frustrating because many parts are simply not made for a single player and downright unfair. But those 2 great levels showed that they had the skill/potential to make a proper fear game.
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Love the first F.E.A.R. Dual wielding pistols were so good. Then the sequel came out and really let me down. I might need to give it another chance but don't know yet.
Fear 1 was fantastic, i even loved Fear 2. Even if it wasn't everyone's favorite, that ending was batshit crazy, and could have been an amazing setup for the third game....but they ruined it. different developer, terrible story and gameplay. Such a waste!!!
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One of my favorite games of all time, absolutely love it. I also really love the story as well, Alma was a great character I generally felt sorry for her after all the stuff she had to go through.
Ahh yes the FEAR Franchise. Played all of em,shat my pants when playing for the first time. and then it is kinda dusting away in my Library. Overall this Review was Awesome.
Been binging your videos because you popped up on my subs and I gotta say. I like this approach to talking about games. Its rare to find people that strip back wacky edits and let the footage speak for itself. Its nice
Chief, I have no idea what you're on about when talking about Extraction Point. It was basically a FEAR level pack, with AI improvements. Sure, the story was essentially "escape", but it didn't need to be anything more than that. I find it slightly hypocritical that you criticize Extraction Point's "drab linear corridors" when that describes almost all of the environments in the original FEAR, *especially* after showing the Funeral Home(with a much warmer colour palette), Interval 02's warehouse where you're outside with Holiday and can take an elevated position against the Replicas. Sure, there are flaws, like the repeated Heavy encounter, but that doesn't give you license to completely lambast the game as terrible, when it, for the most part, refines on the existing FEAR formula. What baffles me most is that you proceed not to criticize FEAR 2(or PM) nearly as heavily, even though that game is an abomination, losing all of the gameplay features which made the original FEAR (and FEAR:EP) special, covers the entire environment in neon lights, and the story in their timeline is completely incomprehensible. You also *praise* Perseus Mandate, despite it having all the flaws you seemed disgusted by in Extraction Point to an even greater degree, combined with absolutely disgusting lighting. TL;DR: Extraction Point is good, Perseus Mandate is bad, FEAR 2 is rubbish Source: I've played all of FEAR and EP multiple times, and Perseus Mandate once. I saw FEAR 2 had lost everything that made FEAR special and never touched it.
I think the whole F.E.A.R. concept was kinda wasted in favor of a linear storyline. It could've been a universe similar to the SCP universe where games are basically "tactical" shooters on paranormal settings. Imagine a F.E.A.R. : Horsemen, or F.E.A.R. : Red Pool (basically SCP articles that would make a great basis for games), or some totally new stories. Just has a lot of potential.
Ah man. I gotta say, I really love your videos. Even when I disagree with your opinions on games I still love hearing your input on them. Just something about you is so likable.
I've soaked in another review that covers extraction point expansion and to be fair I felt it was a good deal more observant and given to honest credit than your coverage. It may be a matter of taste that EP doesn't seem an equal measure to the base game but it does evolve and improve on the series. Something that does count against it is that it moves the effective ending of FEARs ending to the end of EP with it's M.A.D. quote and credit crawl. The ending for both DLCs is sour for different reasons, one being badly optimized for most systems playing it and the other a hand job aimed at a different FPS audience. Anyway, off my point there. The EP expansion was a sincere attempt and improvement. I'm not sure how you can't see that, even with it's obvious faults.
Can anyone please tell me why whenever i play this game the framerate will suddenly lock to 32fps mid game? Like middle of a mission. Havent been able to figure out why it does this.
Awesome video. I loved the first and second games, it's really unfortunate that production and development of this series was rocky and turbulent, particularly because this series kept getting passed on to different creative teams so it hurt the overall product. Day 1's F3AR was the final nail in its coffin, and it's been dead ever since. I keep hoping, even after all these years, that they'll give FEAR 1 the Resident Evil 2 treatment, with an amazing remaster, but that is just a total fantasy. RIP FEAR franchise, except for F3AR (there are just no excuses).
Extraction point was actually pretty good. The scary bits were scarier, the shoty bits were shootier. Main problem was the lack of story development. IMO FEAR doesn't really get bad till FEAR 2
In some of my favorite FPS games, a shotgun would act more like a medium-range rifle than they would a force cannon. Certain shotguns can be the latter, but I don't like when some games say they HAVE to be short range only, hence why I am proud of the Doom shotguns and the Combat Evolved shotgun. And that's what I love about the shotgun in the first FEAR; even if you're a few yards away, you can still decimate the Replica Soldiers into gore. They can call it a VK-12, but it's really a SPAS 12 in all but name. And maybe the SPAS 12 isn't this awesomely cruel.
See, I personally think F.E.A.R 1 and F.E.A.R: Extraction Point were the absolute pinnacle of the series, F.E.A.R 2: Project Origin was good too, but its gameplay tried to be Call Of Duty clone, excluding the horror elements and F.3.A.R was erm... not bad from the perspective of horror, but its gameplay felt extremely stale because it was in an era of Call Of Duty clones and it tried to change from a psychological/ Japanese styled horror sci-fi FPS game to a full on Michael Bay movie. While the original holds a place in my heart for being one of the best examples of realistic lighting, the perfect blend of horror and action and slow motion gunfights. The sequels felt stale to be fair, but I could see they were going for in all fairness.
That's wild that you rank Fear 2 above Extraction Point or Perseus Mandate cause I'm sorry the sequel is worse than both expansions. It's not bad but it's clearly toned down by alot. The enemies are dumber too which is crazy to see (explosive backpacks that peek out of cover, smart lol). Excluding the school level, FEAR 2 isn't even as tense as FEAR 1 or Extraction Point. FEAR 2 is literally Perseus Mandate rewritten without the Nightcrawlers and made stupidly easier. Nah man, I just can't agree with you on that scaling at all. Gotta correct that timeline divergence too cause the Monolith timeline doesn't take either xpac into account, they are non canon as far as FEAR 2 and F3AR is concerned. It's just because F3AR is badly written that it seems like EP happened.
I personally I always found Subway Levels way worse than Sewer Levels. Sewer Levels can have some semi intersting things, like Water Purification areas, some swimming and poison water areas you have to avoid. Subways are just tunnels. With an occasional station with a bathroom. That's it. If your lucky you'll have electrified rails
I don't think that Extraction Point is so bad, in fact I think that is the second best game of the franchise. Perseus Mandate on the other hand is awful, it's ugly than the first game. But the best thing that came out from the expansions is the 9 Instant Action maps in F.E.A.R. Files: they are awesome and has some of the best arenas of the franchise (some of the maps was made by Steve Gaynor in his first job as game designer, later he did Bioshock 2, Gone Home and Tacoma). Ps: F.3.A.R. combat and cover is way better in the controller.
I can't recall playing any games that have this haze/smoke-cloud effect from dry walls being shot into like F.E.A.R. Such an atmospheric element that isn't more popular among shooters.
I know Fear 3 kinda sucked, but I still had an absolute blast having a goofy playthrough with my BF. using the slow mo at the right time when they were in a pinch just to give them the slow motion even though I wasn't really in a good spot to make use of it. The co-op was surprisingly effective at generating a ton of fun for me. And many inside jokes were made that day. Good times.
I do like most games in the series personally, but besides the first, my favorite has to be Extraction Point. And of course the worst is Fuh-Three-Arr because of the sudden level up nonsense, tasteless story and lack of VK-12.
The Paxton Fettel gameplay in F3ar was the best part of the game. Instead of stupid cover mechanics and bad shooting, it turns the game into a high speed body discarding simulator where you jump from enemy to enemy and deliver as much close quarters damage as possible until your current body gives out. And you can possess a few unique enemies, like the teleporting mid boss and the knife wielding crazies. Playing point man is absolute shit in that game, but I love how Fettel's gameplay retrains you to just run into the biggest enemy concentration. It's not Fear, but I'd love a dedicated FPS game for the body switching ghost mechanic.
The assault rifle was one of the best ARs in gaming too. That thing tore up players and NPCs alike at all ranges. Even in close quarters in multiplayer the TTK was so great it still melted SMG and shotgun players that were not quite as accurate as they hoped to be. Loved FEAR, first one was simply fantastic.
Shotguns irl are effective at, like, 25 meters. Meanwhile, they can't hit something more than 5-meter away in video games (for balancing reasons, of course, but it's bizarre, still)
The main reason why they dont fix it is people will buy the exact same call of duty clone time and time again without a second thought and put 100s of hours into it, even though nothing has changed. "If it aint broke dont fix it." Since they're getting their money from the consumers they don't care too much about it. And most of the consumers either dont care, or complain a little and still play it overall. Game developers are weird. Its like they can't hear the quality of life improvements or criticisms and just go down a spiraling path into doom. Resident evil did it too, but because of the extreme backlash from 6 they managed to get yanked from that loop. At least it seemed that way till RE3 Remake came out, and now many are concerned again.
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Sorry
>Perseus Mandate is better than Extraction Point
Mandalore would have a stroke if he heard that.
Whitelight will remember that
Fuck Perseus Mandate
lol
I actually had to pause the video and rewind it a bit just to make sure I heard it right.
It's a shame that all these years later FPS games haven't evolved beyond F.E.A.R.,even many technical aspects such as lighting, AI, voice callouts and environmental effects. Back in 2005 one would've expected 2020 games to be practically alien technology yet we're still stuck with the old, just with nicer coats of paint, higher resolution textures and better shaders.
The AI was next level in FEAR.
Stalker shadow of Chernobyl has pretty good AI, though maybe not as good as fear. It's still pretty close.
I'll never stop being salty that the engine was never licensed out to make a Thief title with it.
I mean, many technically have, but the issue is that part of what made FEAR's ai great was the level and audio design. While Fear's levels are a bit bland and empty looking, it helped make sure that anything that could mess up the ai's pathfinding was either nonexistent or very unlikely to cause problems. The same can not be said for a lot of modern games today.
What about the AI in the STALKER series? I feel that it most closely resembles FEAR.
"Lamest flamethrower". So, a lamethrower? 😂
Why doesn’t this have a thousand likes yet 😂
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The biggest problem of the Fear series is that it's a series
Agrees sadly. It should've just ended at the first game and it's two expansions. Easily my favorite game of all time. The sequels just couldn't live up .
I really liked FEAR 2, but definitely for different reasons than FEAR 1...
Maybe if they just labeled it as something else ? Also it's DLC (REBORN) was great
@@Hriskataaa It WAS originally going to be named just Project Origins because the original developers lost the rights to the FEAR name. But then they got the name back, and the name 'Project Origins' was voted on by fans, so they decided to keep it as a subtitle. There's a great video about the history of FEAR by, I think, the Gamers/Gaming History (? Something like that) channel. Maybe it would've been better if it remained just Project Origins.
@@jonettheonly I think the channel you're looking for is GVMERS, they make great historical reviews!
What about Fear one’s cliffhanger ending then?
Contradicting Canon, sketchy ass timelines, and a nose divine in quality for every iteration...... Hey you're right this is totally a SCP article.
I disagree with you when it comes to F.E.A.R Extraction Point. As for level design it is more varied than the main game, it makes significant improvements to AI(more on that later),ramps up the horror and opressive atmosphere and it does not fuck with the story(presenting a smaller and more hopeless escape story).As for Perseus mandate: it was fun because it still had F.E.A.R gameplay, it was ugly as fuck,tried to tell an ambitious but poorly executed story and is overall fine. AI: you kind of neglected what really makes the AI special when compared to anything else on the market. Fear: the AI's goal is to eliminate the threat and not just the player. This means that when the individual is threatened by a grenade or gunfire his primary objective becomes survival(Extraction point improves this). I also see it as wierd that you rant about vivendi "not getting it" when monolith completely abandoned everything that made F.E.A.R good when it came to F.E.A.R 2. The enemies were retarded,ALL the guns were weak, the lighting was no longer anything special and the horror was basically gone. Conclusion: As it stands I consider F.E.A.R Extraction Point the pinnacle(gameplay wise) of first person shooters. Change my mind.
This 100%
Yeah, especially disagree on the weapons, the laser was fun to slice people apart with- and he doesn't even mention how bad the weapons in Perseus Mandate are(there are weapons in PM that aren't in EP)
@@SuperBoyboys The Laser carbine is quite unique:as it doesn't just fire "laser bolts" but actually works sort of like a real laser. And the minigun is just incredible. It is the king of miniguns.
I thought so as well, I'm with Sseth on his viewpoints with these expansions.
@@DrMatrix1231 Wait. Sseth has a video on F.E.A.R?
I was not expecting that opening rant but it was pretty based.
George Bush doesn’t care about black people
Katrina is forever going to be a grim reminder of our desperation to find the enemy making us forget to protect our own. Even if that levee was un-savable, the evacuation effort could have saved thousands of lives if it was taken seriously. Heckuva job, Brownie.
@@Nolant. politician don't care about people period, they say what they want you to hear to gain power and the try to stay in power by choosing to side with whatever is the popular opinion at the time
@@Nolant. *government*
Based on what??
He ate their flesh to get their knowledge and information, if i recall correct. Like African cannibal thing when you eat your enemy flesh and get their power.
wot
Ooooooooh! So *that* explains the line Josh Brolin's character says from the Grindhouse movie! (I believe that double feature movie also came out in 2005 as well.)
The only problem is that... I don't remember that African ritual being mentioned in the FEAR series before the bad ending of Fuh-Three-Arr.
They don't make them like they used to. F.E.A.R. 1 is a masterpiece.
Amen. Favorite game of all time
Doubt
@@marbl3d45 doubt? Name any game that has gunplay and AI of even remote close quality - even its own sequels can’t compete.
@@LegioXXI bro just look at the pfp
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FEAR is the one game I wished had influenced most FPS games that followed it.
Reminder that John Carpenter, writer and director of the original Halloween, the Thing Remake, They Live, and Escape from New York to name a few, worked on F3AR and definitely didn't know what the series was about and helped fuck it up.
Holy shit a video about my favorite game of all time
Thank you Char. I love you. The game has such a sad, complicated history, and it's a shame we'll never get another. Maybe for the best though, Because nothing will live up to the absolutely flawless masterpiece that was F.E.A.R 1.
The franchise has such a sad, complicated history is what I meant to say. Point still stands..
Best game of all time.
Hyperbolic is annoying
Fear's a great way to pass time until the apocalypse ends and we finally enter the post apocalypse stage. Then we will be playing fallout in real life, so no need for video games anymore.
I hope you're fattening up like I am.
Funny enough a lot of people (including myself) think Extraction Point is the better Expansion Pack than Perseus Mandate. I'll be the first to say that Extraction Point wasn't perfect, but to me it felt a bit more polished than Perseus Mandate on at least a few areas. Although the introduction of a 4th Faction into the mix the Nightcrawlers was kinda interesting, specially in how eerily calm they are when all the supernatural bullshit happens when compared to Delta Force, the ATC Security team and even The Replicas themselves are freaking out and dying to it the Nightcrawlers never really raise their voice to anything bigger than just calm radio chatter. and I did have some fun with the lightning gun and the new assault rifle, parts of Perseus Mandate felt like they went on for too long, especially the mine section. but when all is said and done if you prefere Perseus Mandate that's fine, I'm not gonna say like "you have no taste" or stuff like that since I also had my fun with it so I can see where you are coming from. although there are somethings I want to clarify. F.E.A.R. isn't part of Delta Force it is it's own division in the US Army with Delta acting as backup for them, the Team in the 2nd Game, callsign Dark Signal if I remember correctly, are a part of Delta Force not F.E.A.R.
He is free to have his preferences BUT as soon as he starts just talking out of his ass he kinda stops having having that credibility as a reviewer(on the topic of F.E.A.R expansions)and devolves into 12-year-old ranting. I agree with you on Perseus Mandate completely but to say that Extraction Point is "a bit more polished" than Perseus Mandate has to be one of the greatest understatements of all time.
Exctraction Point was actually pretty good. Don't really agree with you there. Perseus Mandate felt rushed and soulles tho.
Soma ditto. Perseus Mandate being better then Extraction Point? And he says Extraction Point isn’t good? It had some of the best variety in the game.
Extraction point's story may have been literal insanity... But it so damn fun.
"Don't speak down to people like children"
- Charl 2020, speaking down to people like children :D
God I love the feat shotgun, shame you undersold its awesomeness in this video ;p
Feet shotgun
Just finished MandaloreGaming's FEAR review lol
I'm up for a second one tho
I found it funny how Mandy liked EP and hated PM, while he liked PM and hated EP.
Dxfan619 is another good Fear reviewer. And I think Noah Caldwell did a retrospective.
I never get tired of hearing people pronounce the number insert into titles like F3AR. so good xD
"longer than a Ford Fiesta"
Damn
I assume Paxton is getting people's memories by eating them, Prototype style (tho F.E.A.R was first)
Masterzoroark666 he says one or two things to imply that, and his ending in F.3.A.R implies he’s getting everyone’s strengths by eating their flesh.
FEAR 1 and its expansions get at least one playthrough a year from me. I mostly agree about the shotgun; it turns my dick into a rhinocerous horn when it fires, but I hate the sense of anticlimax when it gibs an enemy. I'd rather have bitchin' ragdolls every time.
On another note, I've developed a minor headcanon that Point Man's "reflexes" are actually a manifestation of a very short-range precognitive ability. Makes more sense to me than just "Oh your mom was Satan so I guess you can think fast real good"
Dead Space and F.E.A.R. I sooo want them to come back.
Dead Space died with EA's rise of greed.
Got all of them in a $5 bundle. First game is amazing, played some of the first expansion. Similar feel but lacks that something from the base game. But a buddy and I burned through Fear 3 in 3 hours. The whole game on the hardest difficulty. Was actually pretty fun, but as a generic shooter where we messed about the whole time and not as a Fear game. And was really short.
It's interesting you don't like Extraction Point as much as Perseus Mandate. Most FEAR reviews I've come across say the opposite, and having played them I feel the same. To me, once you revisit FEAR or move onto it's expansions, the horror loses it's edge and the game becomes a John Woo film simulation (which is a good thing). I always felt the levels of Extraction Point felt more like the core game's in terms of layout, which helps keep the combat high-octane, while in Mandate you're fighting in a lot more open areas where the AI ironically has less room to shine and just gets really tanky to compensate.
You forgot in 2005 Battlefront II was released so it wasn’t all bad
SawedOffClown and Revenge of the Sith.
I have this wierd nostalgia goggles view of FEAR 3 and unfortunately Mandalore hasnt reviewed it so lets see what you got.
Check out Gmanlives review of it if you're jonesing
Damn saying Perceus Mandate is better than Extraction Point? Wew
actually just replayed fear 1 on the hardest difficulty, and my go to loadout was dual pistols (main weapon) shotty and the assault rifle since it covers just about any situation, also one thing ive always wanted to know is why F.E.A.R. exists to begin with, what event caused them to be formed? what threats have they dealt with before? etc.
Well, you mentioned MTF. You are now required to review SCP games.
What's MTF and SCP ?
@@ashdoglsu MTF: Mobile Task Force(designed to contain SCP's). SCP Foundation: an organization dedicated to containing anomalous entities. SCP's: said anomalous entities.
I never felt that the (first) game was outwardly scary enough for something literally called "FEAR" -- oh, sure, there's the spooky Sadako-lite segments, but the office buildings and clone army seem kinda dry. Imagine if Dead Space was marketed as horror, but instead of Necromorphs on the Ishimura you spend 90% of the game fighting The Covenant on the station from Prey 2017. Oh, I'm sure the game is fun -- I just remember this being a little off-putting.
IT relied on a lot of "look this way to get scared" situations which don't really work in an organic plathru. I don't deny it's a good shooter but otherwise it felt really dull.
Eh, to me the dimly lit office spaces and those f'ing stealth bastards were effective. Also helps that whenever you see a shadow of something, that something is actually there, even in the scripted parts.
Fear was amazing!
Extraction point was really good!
Fear 2 was also really good!
Perseus mandate was a bit eh.
Fear 3 doesn't exist.
best summary of the franchise.
no mention of the first-person melee combat system that allows you to shoot somebody into a bloody mist up -
close with the shotgun and then immediately jump and scissor-kick his buddy in the face ? pffft.
This
I cant believe we're talking about the best shotguns of all time an the Halo CE shotgun was left out!
Wow. I loved Extraction Point myself.
I'm really glad this retrospective doesn't completely write off FEAR 2 for not being as scary as the original or having ADS n' stuff. It's still a really solid shooter and I think it deserves more respect.
I loved this game as much as Halo:ComEvo, Devil May Cry, and Kotor2.
So fuckin good
The 2000s were so fucking good
DMC 1, DMC 3, FEAR, Morrowind & Oblivion, RE4, HALO CE, SWAT 4, Heroes OMM 3, Silent Hill 1-4 and on and on man games had SOUL in the beginning of 2000
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#F.
You are the first person I've seen who prefers Perseus Mandate over Extraction Point (though I think you said you didn't like them period). I think they're both kind of devisive for the fact that EP is probably the closest in terms of aesthetic, scares, and atmosphere to FEAR 1 but with less locational variety, and PM has the better level design, and locations, but graphically the levels (and even the models period) are pretty bland/ low quality and lack the same atmosphere. It's a bit incredible that FEAR has aged better than it's standalone expasions developed AFTER it.
I always wondered if someone at Monolith is a fan of Lost because they named a NPC Jin Sun Kwon like the couple Jin and Sun Kwon in the tv show.
The FEAR sequels should have been completely unconnected to the first aside from the FEAR team. It would have been so interesting if each sequel you fought against a different paranormal entitiy....it would be the best SCP game ever
If I remember and I don't know where I heard this but that was the original plan..and goddamn it would've been amazing
Fear 3 is a shame. The costco and the appartments had me clued to the screen, clinching my butt in fear. But as you said, those parts are 10% of the game and the rest is boring/frustrating because many parts are simply not made for a single player and downright unfair. But those 2 great levels showed that they had the skill/potential to make a proper fear game.
Shame FEAR 3 killed the series and i hate what they did to point man.
Talking about penetration, have you considered a analysis/review of Painkiller and it's expansion ?
Best gunplay of all time.
I thought I was having a stroke for a minute, I thought the anti-sponsor was in addition to the Patreon thanks, not replaced by it. I kept rewinding and thinking I just wasn’t hearing the shady ad proposition being read off to me.
I probably should have made that a bit more clear.
Charlatan Wonder Still a very good video regardless.
Love the first F.E.A.R. Dual wielding pistols were so good. Then the sequel came out and really let me down. I might need to give it another chance but don't know yet.
Fear 1 was fantastic, i even loved Fear 2. Even if it wasn't everyone's favorite, that ending was batshit crazy, and could have been an amazing setup for the third game....but they ruined it. different developer, terrible story and gameplay. Such a waste!!!
So I was thinking that you reminded me of the guy whose PlanetSide videos I used to watch, then I looked up the things a platoon leader should do and realized you were the same guy.
i disagree with extraction point being bad, perseus mandate was worse imo.
though perseus still holds up pretty well, but is definetly a bit rocky.
One of my favorite games of all time, absolutely love it. I also really love the story as well, Alma was a great character I generally felt sorry for her after all the stuff she had to go through.
Same
@@fearthepointman3134 huh you out of all people like F.E.A.R., weird
@@nono-zc1dj this was regarding alma smartass.
@@fearthepointman3134 why so hostile?
@@nono-zc1dj u hurt cause i called u a smartass? Then think before you reply. Good day.
Ahh yes the FEAR Franchise.
Played all of em,shat my pants when playing for the first time.
and then it is kinda dusting away in my Library.
Overall this Review was Awesome.
Been binging your videos because you popped up on my subs and I gotta say. I like this approach to talking about games. Its rare to find people that strip back wacky edits and let the footage speak for itself. Its nice
your issue with EPs design might come of from the X360 version's graphics. you should have played on PC !
Chief, I have no idea what you're on about when talking about Extraction Point. It was basically a FEAR level pack, with AI improvements. Sure, the story was essentially "escape", but it didn't need to be anything more than that. I find it slightly hypocritical that you criticize Extraction Point's "drab linear corridors" when that describes almost all of the environments in the original FEAR, *especially* after showing the Funeral Home(with a much warmer colour palette), Interval 02's warehouse where you're outside with Holiday and can take an elevated position against the Replicas. Sure, there are flaws, like the repeated Heavy encounter, but that doesn't give you license to completely lambast the game as terrible, when it, for the most part, refines on the existing FEAR formula.
What baffles me most is that you proceed not to criticize FEAR 2(or PM) nearly as heavily, even though that game is an abomination, losing all of the gameplay features which made the original FEAR (and FEAR:EP) special, covers the entire environment in neon lights, and the story in their timeline is completely incomprehensible. You also *praise* Perseus Mandate, despite it having all the flaws you seemed disgusted by in Extraction Point to an even greater degree, combined with absolutely disgusting lighting.
TL;DR: Extraction Point is good, Perseus Mandate is bad, FEAR 2 is rubbish
Source: I've played all of FEAR and EP multiple times, and Perseus Mandate once. I saw FEAR 2 had lost everything that made FEAR special and never touched it.
Man you really liked Yahtzee's F3-AR joke.
1:14 the first Blood game might just be one of the best first person shooter games of all time. blood 2 however is just plain bad
The first expansion Extraction Point is great but Perseus Mandate is bad.
If you want to have some serious fun play without using the slo mo.
the Vivendi timeline is FEAR - EP - PM ; and Monolith timeline is just all the other ones even if they didnt develope them all.
I think the whole F.E.A.R. concept was kinda wasted in favor of a linear storyline. It could've been a universe similar to the SCP universe where games are basically "tactical" shooters on paranormal settings. Imagine a F.E.A.R. : Horsemen, or F.E.A.R. : Red Pool (basically SCP articles that would make a great basis for games), or some totally new stories. Just has a lot of potential.
Agreed
I just remembered I only played the Expansions and not the main game.
(F.E.A.R. Files was a seperate release on Xbox)
BRB.
armaCHAN🤔
😳 The hacker known as 4chan strikes again...
Ah man. I gotta say, I really love your videos. Even when I disagree with your opinions on games I still love hearing your input on them. Just something about you is so likable.
You are the only person who thinks PM is better than EP lol
Extraction point was terrifying and built on everything good about the original??? I don't understand his criticism of it
Yea... He probably just couldn't get it working right and got butthurt. Or he got put off by the fact that it is rough around the edges.
Must be the only one who genuinely enjoys persues mandate
ArmaCAN or ArmaCHAN? The world may never know.
Imagine thinking PM is better then Expac
Love this game and also I'm new to your channel and love your videos
Closing cat video was the best part
FEAR 2 is way too colorful.
I've soaked in another review that covers extraction point expansion and to be fair I felt it was a good deal more observant and given to honest credit than your coverage. It may be a matter of taste that EP doesn't seem an equal measure to the base game but it does evolve and improve on the series. Something that does count against it is that it moves the effective ending of FEARs ending to the end of EP with it's M.A.D. quote and credit crawl. The ending for both DLCs is sour for different reasons, one being badly optimized for most systems playing it and the other a hand job aimed at a different FPS audience.
Anyway, off my point there. The EP expansion was a sincere attempt and improvement. I'm not sure how you can't see that, even with it's obvious faults.
You pronounce everything wrong
This channel needs more food videos
Holy crap, I never thought I would find another person who likes *Perseus Mandate* better than Extraction point. I think it's just a better expansion!
"XK Class end of the world scenario"
Ah, I see you're a Foundation member as well.
Can anyone please tell me why whenever i play this game the framerate will suddenly lock to 32fps mid game? Like middle of a mission. Havent been able to figure out why it does this.
So crazy they went on to make Gotham City Impostors (lol) and then possibly the greatest 3rd person action game of all time: Shadow of Mordor
I might be the one person who cackled at your RENT dig, but I want you to know that I appreciated it. 👌🏻
Awesome video. I loved the first and second games, it's really unfortunate that production and development of this series was rocky and turbulent, particularly because this series kept getting passed on to different creative teams so it hurt the overall product. Day 1's F3AR was the final nail in its coffin, and it's been dead ever since. I keep hoping, even after all these years, that they'll give FEAR 1 the Resident Evil 2 treatment, with an amazing remaster, but that is just a total fantasy. RIP FEAR franchise, except for F3AR (there are just no excuses).
Extraction point was actually pretty good. The scary bits were scarier, the shoty bits were shootier. Main problem was the lack of story development. IMO FEAR doesn't really get bad till FEAR 2
F.E.A.R. is absolutely great. I replayed it not too long ago. The final level IS pretty bad though.
In some of my favorite FPS games, a shotgun would act more like a medium-range rifle than they would a force cannon. Certain shotguns can be the latter, but I don't like when some games say they HAVE to be short range only, hence why I am proud of the Doom shotguns and the Combat Evolved shotgun. And that's what I love about the shotgun in the first FEAR; even if you're a few yards away, you can still decimate the Replica Soldiers into gore. They can call it a VK-12, but it's really a SPAS 12 in all but name. And maybe the SPAS 12 isn't this awesomely cruel.
I always wonder how you release these well written and edited I try to make videos myself but I have never got even one done well
Don't beat yourself up over it, I've been at this for nearly 8 years now and my early videos were inexcusably bad.
@@CharlatanWonder I have gotten better but strong start is nothing as I lose my way partly through
You're not the only one on that boat, friend. I know that feel.
See, I personally think F.E.A.R 1 and F.E.A.R: Extraction Point were the absolute pinnacle of the series, F.E.A.R 2: Project Origin was good too, but its gameplay tried to be Call Of Duty clone, excluding the horror elements and F.3.A.R was erm... not bad from the perspective of horror, but its gameplay felt extremely stale because it was in an era of Call Of Duty clones and it tried to change from a psychological/ Japanese styled horror sci-fi FPS game to a full on Michael Bay movie.
While the original holds a place in my heart for being one of the best examples of realistic lighting, the perfect blend of horror and action and slow motion gunfights. The sequels felt stale to be fair, but I could see they were going for in all fairness.
That's wild that you rank Fear 2 above Extraction Point or Perseus Mandate cause I'm sorry the sequel is worse than both expansions. It's not bad but it's clearly toned down by alot. The enemies are dumber too which is crazy to see (explosive backpacks that peek out of cover, smart lol). Excluding the school level, FEAR 2 isn't even as tense as FEAR 1 or Extraction Point. FEAR 2 is literally Perseus Mandate rewritten without the Nightcrawlers and made stupidly easier. Nah man, I just can't agree with you on that scaling at all.
Gotta correct that timeline divergence too cause the Monolith timeline doesn't take either xpac into account, they are non canon as far as FEAR 2 and F3AR is concerned. It's just because F3AR is badly written that it seems like EP happened.
Is not a vague South American country
Is Brasil
And they speak spanish
In Brasil
Spanish
Is Rio de Janeiro
They dont speak Spanish in Brazil they speak Portuguese
*Eye twitch* OKAY ON TOP OF THAT CRAP HOW DID THAT HELICOPTER MAKE IT FROM BRAZIL TO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST!?!
I personally I always found Subway Levels way worse than Sewer Levels.
Sewer Levels can have some semi intersting things, like Water Purification areas, some swimming and poison water areas you have to avoid.
Subways are just tunnels. With an occasional station with a bathroom. That's it. If your lucky you'll have electrified rails
I don't think that Extraction Point is so bad, in fact I think that is the second best game of the franchise. Perseus Mandate on the other hand is awful, it's ugly than the first game. But the best thing that came out from the expansions is the 9 Instant Action maps in F.E.A.R. Files: they are awesome and has some of the best arenas of the franchise (some of the maps was made by Steve Gaynor in his first job as game designer, later he did Bioshock 2, Gone Home and Tacoma).
Ps: F.3.A.R. combat and cover is way better in the controller.
Lighting and particle effects are inspired here, i can replay the whole thing just for that.
I can't recall playing any games that have this haze/smoke-cloud effect from dry walls being shot into like F.E.A.R.
Such an atmospheric element that isn't more popular among shooters.
I know Fear 3 kinda sucked, but I still had an absolute blast having a goofy playthrough with my BF. using the slow mo at the right time when they were in a pinch just to give them the slow motion even though I wasn't really in a good spot to make use of it. The co-op was surprisingly effective at generating a ton of fun for me. And many inside jokes were made that day. Good times.
I do like most games in the series personally, but besides the first, my favorite has to be Extraction Point. And of course the worst is Fuh-Three-Arr because of the sudden level up nonsense, tasteless story and lack of VK-12.
The Paxton Fettel gameplay in F3ar was the best part of the game. Instead of stupid cover mechanics and bad shooting, it turns the game into a high speed body discarding simulator where you jump from enemy to enemy and deliver as much close quarters damage as possible until your current body gives out. And you can possess a few unique enemies, like the teleporting mid boss and the knife wielding crazies. Playing point man is absolute shit in that game, but I love how Fettel's gameplay retrains you to just run into the biggest enemy concentration. It's not Fear, but I'd love a dedicated FPS game for the body switching ghost mechanic.
The assault rifle was one of the best ARs in gaming too. That thing tore up players and NPCs alike at all ranges. Even in close quarters in multiplayer the TTK was so great it still melted SMG and shotgun players that were not quite as accurate as they hoped to be. Loved FEAR, first one was simply fantastic.
Shotguns irl are effective at, like, 25 meters. Meanwhile, they can't hit something more than 5-meter away in video games (for balancing reasons, of course, but it's bizarre, still)
The main reason why they dont fix it is people will buy the exact same call of duty clone time and time again without a second thought and put 100s of hours into it, even though nothing has changed. "If it aint broke dont fix it." Since they're getting their money from the consumers they don't care too much about it. And most of the consumers either dont care, or complain a little and still play it overall. Game developers are weird. Its like they can't hear the quality of life improvements or criticisms and just go down a spiraling path into doom. Resident evil did it too, but because of the extreme backlash from 6 they managed to get yanked from that loop. At least it seemed that way till RE3 Remake came out, and now many are concerned again.
the evolution of AI in videogames: half-life1 AI->F.E.A.R AI the end