Convert HDMi to SDI For $30
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2017
- Converting HDMI to SDI doesn't have to be expensive! I found a smaller HDMI to SDI converter for $30 and in this video I show you how rig it up for use with 4K cameras. HDMI to SDI Converter Box on Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/6ojZg33
USB Battery on Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/ankerusbbattery
Power Cable on Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/0DHLb
Cheese Plate on Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/r116
Alternative Cheese Plate on Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/NDa6Ll4
HDMI to SDI Box on Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/6ojZg33
If you're looking for some nice SDI cables, I've found these colored cables to work great. The colors make it easy to trace the cables and see where each camera is connected.
Colored SDI Cables on Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/epvo
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Love how you stay on the DIY path man 💯
Tell us more about the project? Does it include a video mixer? I love this setup btw.
This is great! Thanks for the video. Question; is there any kind of latency with the extra price of hardware between the camera and the recorder?
Thanks for this tutorial. I was looking at buying some Blackmagic HDMI to SDI boxes to use with the BM Atem Mini. I thought it better to use SDI leads instead of HDMI because I need 15ft plus distance from the 2 cameras I'll be using.
Caleb, thanks for this and the Apollo introduction.
Thanks Caleb! I was confused about the reasoning for this, up until the end when you stated the benefit. You might want to start with the benefit first.
Hey. Thanks for the video, it's very useful. Could you be kind and tell what kind of light you use when shooting yourself against the background, and how this light and background are located. Thankful in advance!
Perfect timing, I may need to convert my GH5 to SDI soon! My only concern though is that it would need to work with an interlaced system from time to time. I don't suppose there's a way to convert the signal to 1080i instead of 1080p?
love the new set up// keep up the great work, love your videos
I'd be very interested in a budget live streaming/webcam (with a GH4) set-up. Any ideas?
Cool setup man. BTW good lightning is very warm..... Nice
Nice setup, great audio level! What model is your G7? Is it OK to get an older or more basic G7 than the X Mark II? Is there a huge difference in auto focus?
Hello, thanks for the video... Has converting the HDmi out from Lumix to sdi removed the latency issue and lag? Or does the converted sdi signal still have it? Assuming the camera shoots in 4K. Is the HDmi to Sdi adapter able to take the signal and downs ale it without a lag? Does the camera give you a message about.. Downconverting causing a slowness in AF response or not...
Thanks
Thanks
is there a 12g and higher Converting HDMI to SDI available on amazon for less too?
Can you do a review on the Marantz PMD-602A pree amp?
Dunno if it's just me, but framerate seems to get a little stuttery here for some reason.
Sweet project, though!
Thank you so much for this tip very Helpful. Keep up the great work, I really enjoy your videos so much knowledge.
So can i use this on my Ursa Mini G2, I just want to use my current Ninja v as just a monitor.
Like this set up! I hope to get to this point with slight variation of course considering the types of video I do, I too use the g7 would love some tips, I have purchased and studied the guide by the way! Awesome work
SDI is also super easy to apply a distribution amplifier for, so even tho SDI can run really long, it's still not expensive to even longer runs - say from a switcher to a football stadium.
Hey Caleb. So I got the battery and I put it to charge using an Apple adapter to charger the battery but it’s blinking for a couple hours and not signs the battery is charging.
awesome , will buy and try . I do some work for low cost TV and live broadcast work and i have been borrowing a converter up until now . Because in broadcast its all about SDI 1080i 50i signal . Or 720p\50 over SDI for some live streaming stuff. 4K ? when talking to broadcast people, they dont see 4K coming until many years from now in this kind of work .
FANTASTIC! Thank you so much! All the best
awesome setup!
Quick question. Does the on screen display on Lumix camera can be set off so it wont appear on your video as it passes the switcher? with some camera with hdmi having problems that the onscreen displays cannot be turned off. So your recorded video passing to the switcher has icon and everything on whats on the camera screen. Thank you and nice info here on your video.
Is there a delay in the video? I assume you are using a video switcher to get the audio and video together. I use a BM Atem 1 m/e prod switcher (old one) with Canon xa25s
I have a g85. If I record on the camera in 4K 30p, and I put it through this device, when it comes out on the other side at 1080, what will be the frame rate?
You should grab a Blackmagic version and do a comparison.
The BM ones I found to be more compatible with projectors and things along the lines. I use this same model of SDI converter for myself up as my vision mixer (Roland V-1HD) only inputs HDMI, and whilst my cameras all output HDMI they are limited to 10m max before you get signal cut out. This is especially prevalent in what I use them for which is boxing and MMA event filming, the vibration from the canvas caused A LOT of interference in HDMI cables and causes them to cut out. So I use a small 1.5m HDMI cable, convert to SDI and then back to HDMI on the opposite end, I can then set up wide-angled cameras up to 100m away with the SDI cable. This model of SDI converters works great for that. However, I've found when trying to get my output onto a projector for the screens in the venues i got to (we are talking top of the range A/V equipment now, not your standard home theatre projector) The converters don't seem to won't to know! I have to convert from HDMI out of the vision mixer to SDI, some of the projectors will take SDI, the converter doesn't work for that, and then for the ones that only take HDMI or VGA, the converter also won't work. However, I found the BM ones work flawlessly each time. This isn't to say it happens on every projector, a couple of ones I've come across it works on, however there has been on a couple of occasions incidents where the one demoed on this video has failed.
I have given up on "other" expensive micro converters / cross-coverters once I tried your solution. I can't believe how well it works. Bye bye BMD! Thanks Caleb.
What mic are you using? you always sounded good
so on the other side of this do you do sdi to hdmi so it can be captured to a computer?
How will this work on BMPCC 4k in 3 cam setup studio?
The setup is realy cool !
Thanks! I was surprised how well the 4K capture worked!
Keep on killing it Caleb!
Do you know if this would this work for jamming timecode?
Wow that set is perfect I want to a cooking show and I want to do a 3 to 4 camera setup and I need a switcher or I can iso each camera and edit that way can’t wait till next week.
Seee yaaaa
How about the other way around? We were shooting a short film on a RED the other day and had an HDMI monitor as our Directors monitor. So we had to run a 50’ HDMI cable that would keep getting disconnected, and it was just a pain in the ass. Can you use this device to give an HDMI monitor SDI?
Nice vid! I betcha it's gonna be the Odyssey7q+ or the apollo for the 4 cam next week. I LOVE odyssesy7. The waveform and vectorscope have improved my exposure exponentially. Now if I just had a meter for frame composition!
do you know with this, does HDMI timecode get converted to SDI timecode with sony cameras ?
Thanks for the tips!!!
Does that battery for the converter have to be 2amps output? Is 1.5amps fine?
You're Awesome!!! Just what I was looking to make an HDMI Sony Camera to SDI for Live Streaming and Just Run one BNC cable straight to my video switcher!!!
The SDI cable link to Amazon takes you to a single SDI cable on Amazon UK costing £35 alone, that is even before buying any of the other items you have listed Caleb. - that takes it to at least £75 (@$90+) so far for such a project in UK.
You said recording directly on machine. So I am assuming that you are recording on you computer HDD via a capture card. This is really cool I would love to know more about the setup. Looking forward to next episode.
I am looking at a Lilliput field monitor set-up that has SDI input along with HDMI but main reason I’d go with this more expensive monitor (US 467) is to reduce latency in signal from DSLR to monitor. I don’t believe this was addressed specifically in your vid and I don’t see in comments either. If you are converting the HDMI signal to SDI and the latency issue is inherently in the HDMI output then it stands to reason that the latency would still be there through the conversion and thus, no improvement? If this is the case, do you know of another way to take an output from the camera to SDI that bypasses the HDMI output and improves latency issues?
"Pixel love" and "Pixel juice" That's awesome!
What lens did you use to shoot this video? Thanx in advance.
I've just bought what I thought was one of these units, but it doesn't seem to downscale? (Am using a Sony a6400 at 24fps.) 1080p works fine, but no output on 4k. Is there a version today that you know works?
Can this set up be used for livestream or is this just for recording purposes?
its probably youtube compression, but im getting a little bending/noise on the grey background. other then that, its a great setup dude
Came just to find out what sdi is, cheers great vid 😃
Can you stream it wireless?
Nice Setup!!..
Hello. Question i have a Sony and 2 Panasonic camcorders which have HDMI outputs. I have several of the same HDNI to SDI converter and i was wondering though i seem to be having an issue when trying to use them. when i connect them from my Camcorder to the converter then to my switcher i works ok for several minutes but then i notice the signal starts to glitch. I'm able to notice it on my switcher's multiview. I would think the signal would work just fine but not sure why it is glitching. Your thought5s and suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.
How long that battery last?
Cheers, learned some new! :)
We use these boxes in my local church to run long cables for the cameras used in the live Facebook stream
can we use it with an alphatron ... hdmi to sdi
Please help, I own the Sony fs7 and I wanted to know if there's a way to record video using an external recorder like the atomos Ninja V WITHOUT the Sony Xdca FS7 extension unit???
fantastic solution :D :) really nice
Please!!!!!! Can't wait to see that 4 camera set up.
Are those converter stuffs makes any latency in video???
I do live streaming of music events and those kind of stuffs with multiple cameras, so latency is the thing I must have to avoid in term of syncing but using SDI I can move my cameras more freely. is anyone experienced??
Can someone send me a link to a nice short USB to DC power cable for this setup? What are y'all using? Thanks!
What would be the cheapest way to get 4k out of an A7s?
What about the inverse? I have to run events with a black magic tv video switcher and the hdmi outputs always go to crap but SDI remains solid. My monitors and projectors have no use for SDI
ClovenLife I have this one and use it with my Ursa Mini. Works great and barely uses any power. Even better is that it's USB powered, so no need for specific cables
www.amazon.com/dp/B00ATNLJ80/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_r5zZzb3JDS996
Great video
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Would the GH5 grip give you 4k output thru the SDI connections on it?
i think it's only 1080p up to 60fps.
Hi Caleb, I'm a great fan of you and love your videos. As for feedback to the setup: You felt a little bit too close to me - as if you were invading my personal space. This will be different for different people but for me it would have been better to see more of you. But still: I've watched the video even if I don't know if I might use the information. The reason is that I always pick up something. Thanks for your work!
Hi All, I just wanted to mention my experience with that little box was not a good one. Yes, it's cheap and affordable but I had two go out on me. Maybe they were lemons? We wound up purchasing a couple of the Blackmagic convertors that felt more solid and performed really well for a number of our productions. Again, this is just my experience. Thank you for the review it is always good to get as much information as possible about all of these devices.
Did the Blackmagic one handle 4K conversion when outputting the 3G SDI?
I use blackmagic ones for monitor I go atomos out into hdmi to sdi blackmagic. Then run sdi to coax screw on connector. Normal coax cable 40 feet and another screw on coax to sdi connector then sdi to hdmi up to monitor. Works perfect.
Hi DSLR Video Shooter! Please can you compare results of recording with ninja inferno 4k 60fps downscaled to 1080 vs hdmi to sdi 4k 60fps downscaled to 1080. Thanks a lot.
And is there posibility to record sdi signal with some cheap external recorder?
does this work with black magic web presenter?
So we can still record 4K internally and just send a 1080p signal to a monitor, correct?
I'm also waiting for an answer on this
Hey everyone, I bought these converters to do a switching setup with GH5S to Shogun 7. I DID NOT WORK. I have tried everything! The shogun doesn't recognize any input. PLS Help
Hey man did you get this sorted? I’m considering doing the same. Lmk thx.
Setup is good, but feels a little tight compared to the main set. Sound is fine
no need for a studio, this looks and sounds the exact same! Even better than when you stand in front of the sound proof foam
My hdmi output to gh5s is trash. Gives me tv output in progress when connected to external monitor but no live feed.
My a6500 is clipping/distorting audio at around -3dB instead of 0dB. Is this normal?
Teodor Tomter try to keep it around -8, should get rid of any problems
Yeah, I usually keep it around there. I guess it's just the limiter that's kicking in and that the signal would've hit 0dB anyway. Can't find any documentation on it, I just need to be aware that the signal may clip even though it never hits 0dB. It's easy to get fooled when the meters look good. :(
Faster to have this as a realtime down-scaler than using editing software to do it.
Coming around to bald Caleb. Looks natural.
Caleb, love the "desk video" look. But I am confused. What is this about? I'm sure there are plenty of viewers here who will tell me, but I just know. Just a pointer; I give a lot of tech talks and I have learned to follow the principle of "start with why". Tell the viewer why this is important, needed etc. Maybe I am just too amateur for this kind of video but still love all that you are doing.
I was looking for the same question in the comments to make sure I’m not the only one who doesn’t know what is this SDI thing about.
The main reason for using SDI is that it will let you use longer cables. HDMI will usually work OK for distances under 25 feet, but if you're using SDI you will have no problems using 300 feet. SDI will also be more robust.
Maybe he should've elaborated, but he has a live multicam event coming up. HDMI will have signal loss pretty fast, close to 25 feet. The best advantage though is their tough. While not quite as friendly as XLR runs, SDI is stiff, strong, and well shielded to prevent signal loss or damage. We used it on lots of live events and it's awesome.
Good point Andrew! I wrongly made presumptions on what people knew. I'll do a video explaining everything in detail!
That would be great!! Plus, what is the shotgtun mic you used in this setup? Thx!!
Do you read the comments Caleb?
As many as I can!
LOL!
Mic is actually in shot
Thought this was Michael from vsauce
Why the coffee slurp!
Its a nice clever colution. Thanks for the info.
But why zip-tie ? These days everyone use hotglue pistol on youtube, its a similar professional method
😲 G7? What the fook? We expect c200 from you! Just teasing
DisplayPort >
It would have been better if wires were connected to the equipments so we could see how bulky the whole setup was.I hope you are not losing your hair due to stress to make these videos. (Grin)
Early once again...
or... just dont ever use sdi
Sorry just checked and the box is 198,49 €. That is a little more than the 30$ you mention.
Ohhhh...Enough already with that 4k madness! It's technology that's been shoved by marketers of the big electronics companies. WE Dont need that shit!
Even high end i7 computers with superb graphics cards cant play 4K without stuttering. Just let it go....1080p is more than enough.
eladbari you don't need it, but there are many reasons 4k is viable. Also an i3 computer with an integrated gpu can playback 4k 60fps smoothly.
Maybe I don't *need* to view or stream in 4K but being able to record and edit 4K down to 1080p is a dream. I can do punch ins, dolly moves, zooms... If a 4K camera is close in price to its 1080 counterpart then it is 4k all the way!
I appreciate your point of view on this, man. And I can totally agree that if your thing is to edit in 4k, as long as the delivery system is 1080p- then its totally makes sense by me. I think that 4K downscaled to 1080 looks indeed sharper [not that sharpness is my ultimate goal, but it's definitely handy].
I will just say that the whole thing of 'punching in'...zooming into footage....come on. If your DOP is a good one- then he will supply you with great compositions, without any need to zoom into the footage. Also, dolly moves done digitally by zooming into 4K or sliding left to right- it doesn't feel as organic as a real camera movement.
The only very specific use i could [personally] see in 4K footage is if you're shooting an interview of some sort, and you only have 1 camera, then it's time efficient to be able to shoot a medium [waist] shot, and then being able to cut and zoom into some sort of close up. It still won't feel like you had an A + B camera, but it's the best you can do with what you got.
I just place the benefits of 4K on the scale, alongside with the cumbersome-ness of the size and how it doesnt stream or play well on editing systems- and for me the downsides outweight the upsides. I just hope no Panasonic or Sony or whatever monstrous company - will shove 8K down our throats now, cause they need to make more money, convincing us that 8K is the shit, so we buy more from them. This is all artificial creation of tech-need. it's a tech-want..not need. Those companies need to work on other things besides resolution! Improve Dynamic range! Improve the jelly effect and include global shutter! These will improve our footage much more
im at work with a fast intel Xeon processor I believe, 32GB ram, 512 SSD drive, GTX 1080- and whenever I play a 4K 25fps file- I see one frame..and it's stuck. it doesn't play at all.
eladbari what are you playing the file from? A dedicated video player like VLC or UA-cam? Either way that's an outlier, my 6 year old laptop with an AMD Apu can play 4k smoothly
I bought, that product is a shit garbage.
does not work for PVM monitors for sure.
yo speak to much!