Every other tech channel today: "Here's our review on the latest graphics card you'll never be able to get." RandomGaminginHD: "Here's a look back at something which is actually available and relevant to the average gamer." Keep it up.
"Whenever I run Crysis remastered, I'd sometimes thing 'wow this is running better than expected' or 'what the hell is going on'." Love how you say things like these with such a calm voice.
This was actually impressive to watch. I really didn't see this chip working as well as it did, and maybe still gives some people hope with building a new system while waiting for a GPU
APUs will not likely be hitting High settings in any nice looking modern AAA games but there's a reason they are legendary among budget builders! I used to play Skyrim & Borderlands 2 on an A8 APU :P If I had no choice today to buy a GPU (which thankfully I already have one) I would hands down camp the upcoming Ryzen 5 5600G listings in August. Plus with FSR coming out it has the potential to be a serious bang-for-your-buck chip and you have the option to upgrade to dedicated later on. Right now that's huge value especially considering it looks to achieve 1080p/60 at 100% resolution scale on a lot of games.
@@The_Man_In_Red yeah I watch a lot of ETAPRIME and he's covered that APU pretty extensively. I'm lucky on the GPU front, I have a 2060 super, though I am waiting for a 30xx card at some point.
@@thecasualcanuck4590 I have a 2060 Super as well, great card for $400. Sadly with Nvidia software scheduler I'm losing about 10-15% performance with my R5 1600 which is a tad too slow for the card. I'll upgrade to whatever DDR5 system makes sense in 2023 and keep the 2060 Super for now. Tbh, 1080p/144Hz gaming isn't all that demanding once you get above a certain threshold. I don't need to upgrade right now, I just cap FPS at 85/120 depending on the game (lots of games don't look any smoother above 60 FPS anyway) But yah, so glad I grabbed the 2060 Super instead of waiting for a 3060 like I originally wanted to do haha. Unless you have a beast of a CPU (5600X or 8700k or better) I wouldn't worry overly much about upgrading your GPU to 3000 series unless you really need the FPS in 4K.
@@The_Man_In_Red yeah I have a 3600x, and 1080p gaming is super easy, and I have a semi decent 144hz monitor. I'm mostly a console gamer, but I love tweaking stuff on pc, and building is a lot of fun. If I want to jump up to 1440p gaming then maybe I'll look for a 5600x, but I doubt I'll go that far anytime soon.
plz buy a hyzen 3 and see how dog water it is ITS ALWAYS AT 100% and bottle necks my 1050ti and get 10 fps in fortnite all by its self but with the 1050ti 100-200 fps
Κάλα τα ΠΣ στα σχολεία είναι ότι χειρότερο υπάρχει. Πάντως αυτός ο επεξεργαστής είναι πολύ καλός και παίζεις άνετα χωρίς κάρτα γραφικών με τις τιμές που έχουν πάει.
This APU overclocks really well, especially the GPU! It's a shame you didn't overclock it. The benefits from overclocking this far exceed what you get from overclocking most other CPUs and GPUs.
@@Mr371312 bro i have the same apu when i play rocket league with stock i just get around 44-50 fps but after gpu boost its around 60+ sometimes but i think for games like valorant,csgo its so gooood
@@Yessappa_pillai nah those are way too modern for these games And you to pull everything out of it to get decent fps My brother done it like that for ASC syndicate but it's not worth it Your cpu starts to degrade afterwards slowly
The fact that this vid came out 2 days after my 2200g arrived. Tbh, I really don't mind if I have to turn down resolutions or textures, I bought it because I don't have the money for a gpu and I'm pretty sure that I'm gonna be happy with the performance, especially coming from an xbox 360 and an integrated graphics pc
@@MultiDivebomber I'm planning on playing gta v, maybe the scarface game, paladins, valorant, rainbow6 and skyrim mainly. I'm very excited because I've literally never had a NEW pc or even a pc this good. I even sacrificed on the storage space and bought a 128gb NVME just to feel a snappy pc
Just finished my second year of uni! Got an insane headache and feeling like death, this is smooth brain material taking my mind off of how rough I feel haha. Thanks for the content!
WOW GTA V at full HD. I am sold! VERY surprising results indeed 😎 Oh yeah, watching this video on a Ryzen 5 2400G myself! Works like a charm as you say 8:16
Yeah vega 11 is more than capable of playing gta 5 at 1080p normal with no resolution scaling you can also play days gone at 720p medium it handles titanfall 2 at full HD at med/high settings too and with apex lastest patches its getting back to 50 fps again amd driver team at least on windows are doing some great work.
Nice video! I'm still using this beast mosty for csgo and its doing great, zero lags or stutters in this game. With Shadow rock 2 temps are really low at lowest fan speed so im patiently waiting for better hardware prices :P
actually watching this on a 2200g system :P got to say i love this little thing, I have it in an asrock a300 mini pc and am always pleasantly surprised when i try to play a game on it. its not the greatest performance, but with tweaking have always managed to get enjoyable performance.
Same here, a fellow Deskmini A300/2200G user. I built this as an HTPC and it's been great so far! As a gaming machine it's awesome for emulation and lighter PC gaming, I've lately been playing Ori 2, Streets of Rage 4 and Hollow Knight no problem. Got my 2200G new for $80 in 2019, such a bargain.
@@kirankhalane9260 sorry, I meant tweak the game settings, though I believe that the radeon software and ryzen master software will give you a hand full of overclocking options to get a couple more% performance out of it
I've been using the 2200G since 2019 and I feel the Ryzen 5 5500 is the upgrade I will make because my motherboard is only PCIE gen 3 and so is the 5500 ! Thank you for posting this video and love from South Africa !
I have a Ryzen 3 2200G in my prebuilt system. It runs on single channel 8GB @ 2666MHz and I must say even on single channel, this thing can still give you playable frame rate. I'm contemplating upgrading the single to dual channel, no GPU yet sadly due to the stupid prices.
I have a 2200g in my build currently and it’s not bad but also not that good. The onboard graphics are not bad being vega 8, they can run all the games i play at around 50 fps on 1080p.
I think that cpu gup combo is great for mmo and pre 2015 AAA games , but playing 2020 or 2021 AAA games ... is just not worth it , better wait a bit for upgrate , and after all there are litarally tons of great games that can run on potato ;)
@@reksiohundson8706 I got a gtx 760 a few months back and it performs pretty well now. I only really play gta and minecraft but I also do emulate pokemon as well. It hasn't caused me much trouble considering the 760 is almost 8 years old
I have this exact motherboard and apu with 16 gb ddr4 2666mhz ram and it’s not the greatest gaming experience but it’s just about bareable so It’s good for now. Do you think I should upgrade to a ryzen 5 3400g or get a new motherboard (b450 maybe) first as graphics cards are still expensive and I’m not sure what to do. Great video dude, as usual! :)
With the announcement of AMD FSR, it would be pretty nice if you would take a look back at these APUs while utilizing that feature in compatible games.
One of these is in my Dad's Current Micro ATX build I setup for him. 1050ti is in the system but the onboard graphics is there for troubleshooting and testing if need be. Very nice chip for someone who needs to just browse online and play older games from GOG.
5:57 I had a similar experience with Rage 2 on an i5-3570, 8GB ram, rx 460 2GB. I could get 40-60 fps at low setting 900p but 4 or 5 out of 10 times I loaded a save the game decided to run at 20 fps, forcing a restart of the game and sometimes a complete restart of my pc to fix it.
I bought this APU durning the GPU shortage of 2017/2018. With the thought in mind I'd later pair with with a gpu when I could find one. Paired the APU with 8gb of fast ram (don't remember the MHz). LOL it was my first pc build. Later down the road I found an RX 570 for $120.00 came with a code for RE7R and I couldn't say no. Honestly for my first build it went well, and still going strong. I later added an SSD. For the money I put into my build. I'm happy with it.
Love this little APU! Its was a great gateway into the AM4 socket, and I really hope AMD does something similar for their upcoming AM5 socket. Though, maybe with multithreading this time lol.
Still using it right now! I got an RX 570 graphics card and both of them run pretty much any game in 1080p. Never had problems running any game so far.
Hey RGHD, when you're saying "60% OF 1080p" could you also mention the equivalent real resolution? For example, 50% of 1080p is 540p. Helps put things into perspective.
This was my main rig between 2019 and 2022. In 2020 my graphics card bit the dust, so I was on integrated for most of that time. Ditched it for a 5600x a couple months ago and built a spare parts HTPC around the 2200g. 3.85ghz (5% compared to stock boost) OC on the CPU and 1.6 ghz OC on the graphics (45% over stock) really help put it over the edge into playable territory in a lot of titles. I can see myself holding on to this thing for another decade or so, possibly its ultimate fate will be for me to underclock/uv it and deprecate it into file server or router duty.
@@mwhunter2346 you can use anything and everything you can use with normal CPU. For all purposes it is just normal CPU, just with graphic card placed inside of it.
@@jeremymartens4027 There is, but they're only released for the OEMs for the moment. I heard it will get to the DIY/desktop market this year, sometime soon.
Crazy to think I had this in my main rig there for a long time. Sold it right before 3000 launch to build a new 10th gen rig. Never happened for some reason, can’t think of anything at all
Definetly! With the GPU market the way it is, I've used many of these in builds for customer's first gaming PCs recently. They still do very well. I've been using a specific part list that comes to under $580 and has all the extras. (AsRock A320, 16GB OLOy RAM, M.2, 1TB HD, Apevia 550W PSU, Cylon RGB Case, peripherals.)
@@reksiohundson8706 I think that with DDR5 APUs will start getting stronger GPUs as currently even if they put a stronger GPU in the APU the DDR4 bandwidth would be the bottleneck.
I still have my Ryzen 5 2400G and it allowed me to game for a few months before purchasing the RX 570 for $130 brand new at a local shop. I still have that card as well despite having bought an RX 5600 XT and then a short time later a 2070 Super.
I run that thing on a x370 chipset. It's interesting how the memory profile/voltage influences the temps and fan noise in idle. Does yours behave the same? For example when I disable core performance boost and run 1.2V ram, it's nearly silent even on max load. When I run 1.35V ram, I can hear it in idle. And with cpb enabled, it sounds like the 14nm parts from intel.
In May 2020 i upgraded my main system from a R3 3200G to R5 3600 & 1060 6GB. It was worth ist because i got the 1060 for 100€. The 3200G is now in my Media-PC and still runs older Games like "Dead Space", "Trine 1-4" and "Dirt Rally" without major problems.
that's cool. I recently upgraded to a 3600 too. only problem is, now I'm super GPU limited. doesn't seem likely that that's gonna be fixed any time soon.
With FSR coming this month supporting APU, all AMD graphic cards till RX 400 series and even GTX Nvidia cards from pascal and up it will be very beneficiary for all “peasant” cards and will help this APU as well. Test it again after 22nd of June with FSR on. It will be very interesting to see the uplift. It might turn this APU into a solid 60fps 1080p option.
Thanks for this video , i've been debating on building my dad a deskmini so he can get into gaming and he uses a 900p monitor so this confirmed it for me !
Ryzen 5 5600G + 5700G are available in August btw, if you don't mind waiting, they are around 1.5x faster graphics than the 2200G with a much better CPU.
I've been quite pleased with how well this little APU ran for me. Bought it new back in 2018 for like $130 CAD, slapped a nice overclock and it's been rocking on since. Granted I always had a dedicated GPU along side it but it still kicks serious ass regardless. Not a bad investment if someone is just starting to dip their toes into PC gaming.
Hey i have a question? Do you still have the amd a8 6600k apu? And can you compare it to this one? Using the integrated gpu of both cpus and then using a 1050 ti?
This was the CPU I picked for my first PC build. Put it together with a 1050ti and a stick of 8GB DDR4 3000 on an MSi board. Ran it for about a year or so before picking up a 1600AF and an extra stick of ram, which is now my current setup. The 2200 was able to handle what I threw at it quite well, all things considered, and paired well with the 1050 for 1080p in the games I was playing. Once I got the 1600AF was when the weakness of the GPU started to shine through.
1050 Ti is really weak even for the 1600AF, definitely room to upgrade there as well. Fingers crossed that can actually be done again one day lmao. Ugh -_-
As a former 2400G owner, the extra threads helped with MMOs and other multiplayer games that would stress the CPU. The Vega 11 graphics doesn't perform any better than the Vega 8 found on the 2200G and the 4000G and 5000G series APUs. I think that's why AMD didn't bother going any higher than 8 units on them.
RGHD! When testing CPU's can you have a more 'traditional PC' games test line up?? Stuff like the Total Wars, Transport Fevers, Java Minecraft oh and Universe Sandbox will melt anything you throw at it! These types of game can often be pretty demanding especially when doing stuff on a large scale. I know all the games come out on PC nowadays, and that is good, but I would like to see something other than the same AAA stuff everyone else bench marks. Keep up the good work :D
Java minecraft is tested in old cpus or extremely low end reviews, but often it runs good enough on half decent hardware to not really need to be compared, and also can have a ton of different performance optimizations that dramatically change framerate.
@@gamagama69 Well the latest version, no optifine, spikes my 5800x above 90% when loading 25 chunks. Is super fast but still the most I have seen without building a death system in universe sandbox.
I bought this in 2018 when I was first getting into PC gaming. The whole rig was just around $300. While it was great on its own, I decided to upgrade the graphics when I saw a RX 580 for $80. I've since upgraded my processor, but I still have this APU, waiting for a chance to build a Mini ITX HTPC/couch gaming machine.
Well.. still using 2200g and 2070 now (bad combination, I got the 2070 for free). The 2200g is still more than enough for Photoshop and office application and a good heatsink will make a big difference in performance in video editing
What's a good GPU to pair with this? Looking at running WoW/SWTOR/Mobas nothing too fancy, but want to have the option of running GTA on at least medium I guess
I’m using a ryzen 3 3200g atm I’m getting a graphics card next week got a £500 budget my local pc shop has cards in that price range namely rtx 2060 (the rereleased ones) for £480 and the gtx 1660 super for just a bit under that I’m stuck between what one to buy any input would be appreciated 👍
This was my daily driver for light gaming and online school when the pandemic hit! I've upgraded since then, but I will recommend this APU to anyone who wants to get their feet wet with PC gaming.
I HAVE A BURNING QUESTION!!! i bought the ryzen 2200g back in 2019 and with gta v i have massive fps drops at night where otherwise it works great... found some old forum posts about it but it seems like rockstar doesnt care or forgot to fix it...
Still using a 2200. I built a low budget system about 2.5 years ago. I paired it with an rx580 that I got for $100, and just 8gb ram. Sure it doesn't hit AAA games all that well, and ill be upgrading as soon as prices settle down, but I won't be tossing this in the bin. I'll keep it to build a media/emulator/GoG pc in a suitcase, because I've always wanted to build a suitcase pc.
Overclocking the iGPU from 1100Mhz to at least 1450Mhz+ should be very easily doable on these first Gen APUs. Personally used one for oevr 2 years, and was blown away by how good it was with dual channel 3333cl16 ram and 1525Mhz iGPU. Please include oc results as well if possible - especially for APUs, where every last bit counts! BTW you will need at least a B450 to overclock the iGPU i think
Watching this video because I managed to get a 2200g, a B450 mobo AND a liquid cooler for the equivalent of 50 dollars. I'm so happy I could run around in circles!
picked up my first 2200g for $75 and it came with a low end A320M-K motherboard za 240GB NVME and 16GB DDR4 3000 Mhz ram. Not sure if that was a good deal as i heard these only sell for $30 for just the CPU.
I have an HP t740 "thin client" here with a V1756B, which is almost the same chip - does have SMT and the iGPU is clocked a bit higher, but overall the performance is similar. This video kinda backs up what I've been saying for a while about those in that they totally *can* run games :P
i've been using this cpu for one month already and im more than satisifed . With 8gb 3000 mhz dual channel ram and a b450m ds3h v2 mobo its more than i need , i also got an aftermarket cooler but forgot the name of it:)
Do you plan on doing a test with the 7 5700g that was released in a HP pavilion recently? I haven’t been able to get my hands on one but I’ve seen interesting results.
I've been using my AMD Ryzen 2200G since 2019 with 16gb of DDR4 ram. I never really thought about it's age, for my uses, my rigs been more than adequate and is most likely a LOOOONG way from needing any upgrades (probably until 2025 when Windows 10 will join Windows XP as part of PC history)
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Big smokes order ha I remember watch this scene at 2005 or 2006 first
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@Denis hmmmm 🤤
@Denis why?
Every other tech channel today: "Here's our review on the latest graphics card you'll never be able to get."
RandomGaminginHD: "Here's a look back at something which is actually available and relevant to the average gamer."
Keep it up.
well in the uk amd's apus are quite hard to find and more expensive than usual right now.
@@JudeTheUA-camPoopersubscribe that's a by-product of the GPU drought, bigger channels telling their audience to grab an APU doesn't help either.
@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 yup I thought that would of been why. People have been buying them up like crazy for the past 8 months.
@@JudeTheUA-camPoopersubscribe F. here at asia it is easy to get and really popular in the place i live. i own one too.
@@R3in_Ch yeah things are really bad in the USA and Europe as far as I know. I've seen that in Asia you can easily get an rtx 3000 card.
You should revisit these APUs when AMD FSR comes out.
You are right
What is amd fsr?
@@LAMG059 super res
olution
I'm really hoping AMDFSR delivers something close to its promises.
And if not, this little guy will still be a lovely media/cloud gaming chip
@@LAMG059 DLSS from AMD, but it's compatible with every GPU, not like DLSS
6:40 man that exit from car was cool.
Loot and remit.
"Whenever I run Crysis remastered, I'd sometimes thing 'wow this is running better than expected' or 'what the hell is going on'." Love how you say things like these with such a calm voice.
I love your game selections.
Demanding and non demanding
Old and new
Good ones and buggy ones!
Still rocking this APU since 2019! 💪 Long live 2200G
2200g on one of my secondary boxes. Works great. I paired it with a GTX 750 ti and it's actually pretty good!
@@Dingbat1967 vega 8 is as fast the 750 ti
It is a great 4 core
@@TurtleBrooo 2 core*
@@re4796 Ryzen 3 2200G has 4 cores 😂
I have that ryzen 3 2200g and back then it was the best budget option to play with. I still use it and i am very happy with its performance.
I'd say it's still a good option if you can't find a 3200g
@@generalyido not much improvement between 2200g and 3200g
@@HarryUnchained It's Zen and Zen+ cores, not as big of a leap as Zen 2 and 3 were.
Even when it stops being a capable gaming APU it can still do wonders in a HTPC or homeserver with the ability to play some lighter games.
@@HappyBeezerStudios Would also be a great retro system for older PC games and emulation.
one of my favorite channels if not my favorite, thanks for all the reviews :)
This was actually impressive to watch. I really didn't see this chip working as well as it did, and maybe still gives some people hope with building a new system while waiting for a GPU
APUs will not likely be hitting High settings in any nice looking modern AAA games but there's a reason they are legendary among budget builders! I used to play Skyrim & Borderlands 2 on an A8 APU :P
If I had no choice today to buy a GPU (which thankfully I already have one) I would hands down camp the upcoming Ryzen 5 5600G listings in August. Plus with FSR coming out it has the potential to be a serious bang-for-your-buck chip and you have the option to upgrade to dedicated later on.
Right now that's huge value especially considering it looks to achieve 1080p/60 at 100% resolution scale on a lot of games.
@@The_Man_In_Red yeah I watch a lot of ETAPRIME and he's covered that APU pretty extensively. I'm lucky on the GPU front, I have a 2060 super, though I am waiting for a 30xx card at some point.
@@thecasualcanuck4590
I have a 2060 Super as well, great card for $400. Sadly with Nvidia software scheduler I'm losing about 10-15% performance with my R5 1600 which is a tad too slow for the card.
I'll upgrade to whatever DDR5 system makes sense in 2023 and keep the 2060 Super for now.
Tbh, 1080p/144Hz gaming isn't all that demanding once you get above a certain threshold. I don't need to upgrade right now, I just cap FPS at 85/120 depending on the game (lots of games don't look any smoother above 60 FPS anyway)
But yah, so glad I grabbed the 2060 Super instead of waiting for a 3060 like I originally wanted to do haha.
Unless you have a beast of a CPU (5600X or 8700k or better) I wouldn't worry overly much about upgrading your GPU to 3000 series unless you really need the FPS in 4K.
@@The_Man_In_Red yeah I have a 3600x, and 1080p gaming is super easy, and I have a semi decent 144hz monitor. I'm mostly a console gamer, but I love tweaking stuff on pc, and building is a lot of fun. If I want to jump up to 1440p gaming then maybe I'll look for a 5600x, but I doubt I'll go that far anytime soon.
Literally everyone : RTX 3080Ti
RGiHD : 2200G
I love this! 😅
plz buy a hyzen 3 and see how dog water it is ITS ALWAYS AT 100% and bottle necks my 1050ti and get 10 fps in fortnite all by its self but with the 1050ti 100-200 fps
@@bat9241 performance mode will help also what settings do you use... a ryzen 3 shouldnt be that bad.
@@rzfszn I can’t use performance mode because it uses CPU and my CPU is always at 100% while gaming
@@bat9241 there is deffo something wrong with ur cpu, what are the temps?
@@rzfszn 60-80 in gaming
From having Pentium 4(like schools in Greece) yes is totally worth it
Α καλά τα pc στα σχολεία είναι για γέλια, με το ζόρι τρέχουν το word 2003
@@gamingoptimized χαχαχα ισχυει😂
Κάλα τα ΠΣ στα σχολεία είναι ότι χειρότερο υπάρχει. Πάντως αυτός ο επεξεργαστής είναι πολύ καλός και παίζεις άνετα χωρίς κάρτα γραφικών με τις τιμές που έχουν πάει.
Here we have older Celerons with DDR2 not sure which model here in Cyprus
Hah, over here we got a Single Intel Xeon serving like 50 remote clients. (Think it's like the first or second gen Xeon.) It aint fun.
This APU was my first dive into Ryzen. One of the best budget chips one can ever have. Served me well for my first all AMD build.
This APU overclocks really well, especially the GPU! It's a shame you didn't overclock it. The benefits from overclocking this far exceed what you get from overclocking most other CPUs and GPUs.
yep true but diff wont be that much
@@blazingguyop difference can be quite significant, especially if you're usually on high-end hardware.
@@Mr371312 bro i have the same apu
when i play rocket league with stock i just get around 44-50 fps
but after gpu boost its around 60+ sometimes
but i think for games like valorant,csgo its so gooood
@@blazingguyop i too have the same apu but am getting only 11Fps in cyberpunk and 10 fps in detroit :(
@@Yessappa_pillai nah those are way too modern for these games
And you to pull everything out of it to get decent fps
My brother done it like that for ASC syndicate but it's not worth it
Your cpu starts to degrade afterwards slowly
The fact that this vid came out 2 days after my 2200g arrived.
Tbh, I really don't mind if I have to turn down resolutions or textures, I bought it because I don't have the money for a gpu and I'm pretty sure that I'm gonna be happy with the performance, especially coming from an xbox 360 and an integrated graphics pc
it's still a good cpu for gaming if you don't mind 30fps and lowering your resolution.
Better play older games until you can afford a good GPU, red alert 3, borderlands series etc are fun to play
@@MultiDivebomber I'm planning on playing gta v, maybe the scarface game, paladins, valorant, rainbow6 and skyrim mainly. I'm very excited because I've literally never had a NEW pc or even a pc this good. I even sacrificed on the storage space and bought a 128gb NVME just to feel a snappy pc
@@generalyido don't really mind it. I've played on sub 720p for years so meh. Besides, I play relatively light games, especially roblox
I'm so excited to see how these AMD APUs will perform with FSR, will you cover on that when it release?
June 22nd
@@ala-ala2929 there's so much hype 😁. Finally something similar to DLSS but open Source and not only limited to some 300+€ GPUs 😌
Just finished my second year of uni! Got an insane headache and feeling like death, this is smooth brain material taking my mind off of how rough I feel haha. Thanks for the content!
WOW GTA V at full HD. I am sold! VERY surprising results indeed 😎
Oh yeah, watching this video on a Ryzen 5 2400G myself! Works like a charm as you say 8:16
uncle mike
@@oofig Yeah pal?
Yeah vega 11 is more than capable of playing gta 5 at 1080p normal with no resolution scaling you can also play days gone at 720p medium it handles titanfall 2 at full HD at med/high settings too and with apex lastest patches its getting back to 50 fps again amd driver team at least on windows are doing some great work.
And this was 3 years ago. Current Ryzen 7 Pro series will be soo much better
Bought it back in December 2020 for around $68 USD. Good deal and rocking well
I bough one last week used for 50€ for my friend, what a bargin!!
Nice video! I'm still using this beast mosty for csgo and its doing great, zero lags or stutters in this game. With Shadow rock 2 temps are really low at lowest fan speed so im patiently waiting for better hardware prices :P
Had this powering my rig up until October last year, did me great!
actually watching this on a 2200g system :P got to say i love this little thing, I have it in an asrock a300 mini pc and am always pleasantly surprised when i try to play a game on it. its not the greatest performance, but with tweaking have always managed to get enjoyable performance.
Same here, a fellow Deskmini A300/2200G user. I built this as an HTPC and it's been great so far! As a gaming machine it's awesome for emulation and lighter PC gaming, I've lately been playing Ori 2, Streets of Rage 4 and Hollow Knight no problem. Got my 2200G new for $80 in 2019, such a bargain.
bought ryzen 3 2200g pc yesterday only lol 😂
Ryzen 3 2200g
A320 msi
Crucial 8 GB ddr4
Bx500 240gb SSD
1 tb hdd
Cooler master 450 watt smps
Cooler master k501l RGB cabinet and I cost me 450 dollars 😥
Plz tell me how to tweak the processor
@@kirankhalane9260 sorry, I meant tweak the game settings, though I believe that the radeon software and ryzen master software will give you a hand full of overclocking options to get a couple more% performance out of it
I just built my first itx office pc last week with this apu!
I bought it in march 2021 thanks for making this video to tell me that i made a decent decision
Those Ryzen CPU's and APU's are bloody beastly. Incredible how they beat many dedicated video cards. Cheers for the video.
Athlon 200GE is actualy 2 Zen cores.. just branded `Athlon`
Yeah it's "Ryzen 1" in all but name.
True, but it did came later than this one if I remember correctly.
I thought the Athlons were all 3 core Vega with either Zen/Zen+ architecture.
Lowering the resolution scale actually reduces latency fulltime.
A lot of games perform great at 713p
This is the budget proccesor that i choosed for my budget gaming pc, i rlly love it
nice, watching this on my ryzen 3 2200g
I've been using the 2200G since 2019 and I feel the Ryzen 5 5500 is the upgrade I will make because my motherboard is only PCIE gen 3 and so is the 5500 ! Thank you for posting this video and love from South Africa !
I have a Ryzen 3 2200G in my prebuilt system. It runs on single channel 8GB @ 2666MHz and I must say even on single channel, this thing can still give you playable frame rate. I'm contemplating upgrading the single to dual channel, no GPU yet sadly due to the stupid prices.
Ayy ive had this since launch, im glad to see it here. I might upgrade to the 5600g
I have a 2200g in my build currently and it’s not bad but also not that good. The onboard graphics are not bad being vega 8, they can run all the games i play at around 50 fps on 1080p.
I think that cpu gup combo is great for mmo and pre 2015 AAA games , but playing 2020 or 2021 AAA games ... is just not worth it , better wait a bit for upgrate , and after all there are litarally tons of great games that can run on potato ;)
@@reksiohundson8706 I got a gtx 760 a few months back and it performs pretty well now. I only really play gta and minecraft but I also do emulate pokemon as well. It hasn't caused me much trouble considering the 760 is almost 8 years old
Looking forward to the video(s) you'll make with APUs right after the 22nd of June :P
in this gpu pandemic (yes i am calling it that) APU's are mostly worth it.
more like scalpdemic
I remember this APU! Was in my first ever gaming pc build.
Great one man, could you please do some videos on laptops from ebay especially old gaming ones?
I'm still rocking one right now. Really excited for FSR.
I have this processor but i have a gtx 1650 super to go along with it. Its definitely a decent little 4 core.
I have this exact motherboard and apu with 16 gb ddr4 2666mhz ram and it’s not the greatest gaming experience but it’s just about bareable so It’s good for now. Do you think I should upgrade to a ryzen 5 3400g or get a new motherboard (b450 maybe) first as graphics cards are still expensive and I’m not sure what to do. Great video dude, as usual! :)
hello, will you do a reviewing your rigs video again? Also love the content!
A 2024 version would be also helpful.
6:42 can we all agree on how smooth that was
With the announcement of AMD FSR, it would be pretty nice if you would take a look back at these APUs while utilizing that feature in compatible games.
One of these is in my Dad's Current Micro ATX build I setup for him. 1050ti is in the system but the onboard graphics is there for troubleshooting and testing if need be. Very nice chip for someone who needs to just browse online and play older games from GOG.
5:57 I had a similar experience with Rage 2 on an i5-3570, 8GB ram, rx 460 2GB. I could get 40-60 fps at low setting 900p but 4 or 5 out of 10 times I loaded a save the game decided to run at 20 fps, forcing a restart of the game and sometimes a complete restart of my pc to fix it.
I bought this APU durning the GPU shortage of 2017/2018. With the thought in mind I'd later pair with with a gpu when I could find one. Paired the APU with 8gb of fast ram (don't remember the MHz). LOL it was my first pc build. Later down the road I found an RX 570 for $120.00 came with a code for RE7R and I couldn't say no. Honestly for my first build it went well, and still going strong. I later added an SSD. For the money I put into my build. I'm happy with it.
Putting this bad boy into a small form factor PC for my parents. Great little chip that held me over well when I was waiting for the 3600 to release.
Love this little APU! Its was a great gateway into the AM4 socket, and I really hope AMD does something similar for their upcoming AM5 socket. Though, maybe with multithreading this time lol.
Still using it right now!
I got an RX 570 graphics card and both of them run pretty much any game in 1080p. Never had problems running any game so far.
Hey RGHD, when you're saying "60% OF 1080p" could you also mention the equivalent real resolution? For example, 50% of 1080p is 540p. Helps put things into perspective.
This was my main rig between 2019 and 2022. In 2020 my graphics card bit the dust, so I was on integrated for most of that time.
Ditched it for a 5600x a couple months ago and built a spare parts HTPC around the 2200g. 3.85ghz (5% compared to stock boost) OC on the CPU and 1.6 ghz OC on the graphics (45% over stock) really help put it over the edge into playable territory in a lot of titles.
I can see myself holding on to this thing for another decade or so, possibly its ultimate fate will be for me to underclock/uv it and deprecate it into file server or router duty.
4 cores/4 threads gang assemble.
i5 4460
@@cyberman7348 nice
@@cyberman7348 Do you have a decent gpu ?
I'm still using the integrated graphics
@@cyberman7348 Woah so lucky i cant find a single good gpu out there
@@cyberman7348 exactly man
i built my pc since 2019 and I'm still using the integrated graphics
and since then i cant find any gpu
I'm still using my 2200g and a 1060,still happy with it
you can use an external gpu with apu? i didn't know that
@@mwhunter2346 you can use anything and everything you can use with normal CPU. For all purposes it is just normal CPU, just with graphic card placed inside of it.
@@mwhunter2346 I am using a 1660 super with mine now
@@NZMOPAR bottleneck
@@lamplel8954 the 2200g is a bottle neck ?
Could you compare it with a 5000 series APU next? I'm considering an upgrade but I can't find a reliable comparison.
There is no 5000 series apu. Only 4000. The 4650g for example.
@@jeremymartens4027 There is, but they're only released for the OEMs for the moment. I heard it will get to the DIY/desktop market this year, sometime soon.
Thank you Steve for testing these APU's, I think a lot of people really underestimate them. Btw Steve, for when collab with the Toasty Bros?
Thanks :) maybe someday, I’m not really into collabs and I mean no offence to anyone by saying that, it’s just not really my thing
@@RandomGaminginHD *British accent* I can't believe you've done this.
Crazy to think I had this in my main rig there for a long time. Sold it right before 3000 launch to build a new 10th gen rig. Never happened for some reason, can’t think of anything at all
This is much more relevant than those other youtubers reviewing GPUs
Definetly! With the GPU market the way it is, I've used many of these in builds for customer's first gaming PCs recently. They still do very well. I've been using a specific part list that comes to under $580 and has all the extras. (AsRock A320, 16GB OLOy RAM, M.2, 1TB HD, Apevia 550W PSU, Cylon RGB Case, peripherals.)
Please review the best single-core CPUs with XP! And in Linux!
Was randomly browsing the channel and early 😳
I have 2200G paired with RX 570. They are still doing well, 1080p and high details in most games
The 4 threads gang...here we go again. Even RDR2 60 FPS uses 6 threads!!!
Yeah , I think in 2-3 years we will have good enough integrated gpu to run CP2077 in 1080 medium 60fps .
@@reksiohundson8706 Wow...that's an integrated RTX 2060...
@@reksiohundson8706 I think that with DDR5 APUs will start getting stronger GPUs as currently even if they put a stronger GPU in the APU the DDR4 bandwidth would be the bottleneck.
@@rattlehead999 yeah ddr5 will help APUs a lot
Confirms my decision to stick with my old i5-3570k until I got saved up enough for a big upgrade.
I still have my Ryzen 5 2400G and it allowed me to game for a few months before purchasing the RX 570 for $130 brand new at a local shop. I still have that card as well despite having bought an RX 5600 XT and then a short time later a 2070 Super.
I run that thing on a x370 chipset.
It's interesting how the memory profile/voltage influences the temps and fan noise in idle.
Does yours behave the same?
For example when I disable core performance boost and run 1.2V ram, it's nearly silent even on max load.
When I run 1.35V ram, I can hear it in idle.
And with cpb enabled, it sounds like the 14nm parts from intel.
In May 2020 i upgraded my main system from a R3 3200G to R5 3600 & 1060 6GB.
It was worth ist because i got the 1060 for 100€.
The 3200G is now in my Media-PC and still runs older Games like "Dead Space", "Trine 1-4" and "Dirt Rally" without major problems.
that's cool. I recently upgraded to a 3600 too. only problem is, now I'm super GPU limited. doesn't seem likely that that's gonna be fixed any time soon.
With FSR coming this month supporting APU, all AMD graphic cards till RX 400 series and even GTX Nvidia cards from pascal and up it will be very beneficiary for all “peasant” cards and will help this APU as well. Test it again after 22nd of June with FSR on. It will be very interesting to see the uplift. It might turn this APU into a solid 60fps 1080p option.
Thanks for this video , i've been debating on building my dad a deskmini so he can get into gaming and he uses a 900p monitor so this confirmed it for me !
Ryzen 5 5600G + 5700G are available in August btw, if you don't mind waiting, they are around 1.5x faster graphics than the 2200G with a much better CPU.
I've been quite pleased with how well this little APU ran for me. Bought it new back in 2018 for like $130 CAD, slapped a nice overclock and it's been rocking on since. Granted I always had a dedicated GPU along side it but it still kicks serious ass regardless. Not a bad investment if someone is just starting to dip their toes into PC gaming.
view distance does not affect player view distance, only objects like bushes or trees and so on
Hey i have a question? Do you still have the amd a8 6600k apu? And can you compare it to this one? Using the integrated gpu of both cpus and then using a 1050 ti?
This was the CPU I picked for my first PC build. Put it together with a 1050ti and a stick of 8GB DDR4 3000 on an MSi board. Ran it for about a year or so before picking up a 1600AF and an extra stick of ram, which is now my current setup. The 2200 was able to handle what I threw at it quite well, all things considered, and paired well with the 1050 for 1080p in the games I was playing. Once I got the 1600AF was when the weakness of the GPU started to shine through.
1050 Ti is really weak even for the 1600AF, definitely room to upgrade there as well. Fingers crossed that can actually be done again one day lmao. Ugh -_-
Great video, thank you.
As a former 2400G owner, the extra threads helped with MMOs and other multiplayer games that would stress the CPU. The Vega 11 graphics doesn't perform any better than the Vega 8 found on the 2200G and the 4000G and 5000G series APUs. I think that's why AMD didn't bother going any higher than 8 units on them.
8:37 was this a editing mistake??
RGHD! When testing CPU's can you have a more 'traditional PC' games test line up?? Stuff like the Total Wars, Transport Fevers, Java Minecraft oh and Universe Sandbox will melt anything you throw at it! These types of game can often be pretty demanding especially when doing stuff on a large scale. I know all the games come out on PC nowadays, and that is good, but I would like to see something other than the same AAA stuff everyone else bench marks. Keep up the good work :D
Java minecraft is tested in old cpus or extremely low end reviews, but often it runs good enough on half decent hardware to not really need to be compared, and also can have a ton of different performance optimizations that dramatically change framerate.
@@gamagama69 Well the latest version, no optifine, spikes my 5800x above 90% when loading 25 chunks. Is super fast but still the most I have seen without building a death system in universe sandbox.
Can you cover some Ryzen 5000 APU family mate? Currently its only available for OEM
I bought this in 2018 when I was first getting into PC gaming. The whole rig was just around $300. While it was great on its own, I decided to upgrade the graphics when I saw a RX 580 for $80. I've since upgraded my processor, but I still have this APU, waiting for a chance to build a Mini ITX HTPC/couch gaming machine.
Thanks for the awesome video, but what would the results be if you increased vram in the bios?
Well.. still using 2200g and 2070 now (bad combination, I got the 2070 for free). The 2200g is still more than enough for Photoshop and office application and a good heatsink will make a big difference in performance in video editing
What's a good GPU to pair with this? Looking at running WoW/SWTOR/Mobas nothing too fancy, but want to have the option of running GTA on at least medium I guess
I’m using a ryzen 3 3200g atm I’m getting a graphics card next week got a £500 budget my local pc shop has cards in that price range namely rtx 2060 (the rereleased ones) for £480 and the gtx 1660 super for just a bit under that I’m stuck between what one to buy any input would be appreciated 👍
This was my daily driver for light gaming and online school when the pandemic hit! I've upgraded since then, but I will recommend this APU to anyone who wants to get their feet wet with PC gaming.
I HAVE A BURNING QUESTION!!!
i bought the ryzen 2200g back in 2019 and with gta v i have massive fps drops at night where otherwise it works great... found some old forum posts about it but it seems like rockstar doesnt care or forgot to fix it...
Still using a 2200. I built a low budget system about 2.5 years ago. I paired it with an rx580 that I got for $100, and just 8gb ram.
Sure it doesn't hit AAA games all that well, and ill be upgrading as soon as prices settle down, but I won't be tossing this in the bin. I'll keep it to build a media/emulator/GoG pc in a suitcase, because I've always wanted to build a suitcase pc.
Have watched several 3080ti reviews today, none of them even close to as interesting as this video!
Forgot about that card, not that it matters as no one can buy them haha
can you PLEASE review this cpu with a rx 570 or equivalent? Id also like to see how this 4c4t holds up with a high end gpu as well
Overclocking the iGPU from 1100Mhz to at least 1450Mhz+ should be very easily doable on these first Gen APUs. Personally used one for oevr 2 years, and was blown away by how good it was with dual channel 3333cl16 ram and 1525Mhz iGPU. Please include oc results as well if possible - especially for APUs, where every last bit counts!
BTW you will need at least a B450 to overclock the iGPU i think
Do you think cyberpunk 2077 is getting optimized with the patchs?
Watching this video because I managed to get a 2200g, a B450 mobo AND a liquid cooler for the equivalent of 50 dollars. I'm so happy I could run around in circles!
Is is still worth it to build one? But without a videocard and maybe if have the budget I'll buy one?
Any tips?
picked up my first 2200g for $75 and it came with a low end A320M-K motherboard za 240GB NVME and 16GB DDR4 3000 Mhz ram. Not sure if that was a good deal as i heard these only sell for $30 for just the CPU.
I have an HP t740 "thin client" here with a V1756B, which is almost the same chip - does have SMT and the iGPU is clocked a bit higher, but overall the performance is similar.
This video kinda backs up what I've been saying for a while about those in that they totally *can* run games :P
i've been using this cpu for one month already and im more than satisifed . With 8gb 3000 mhz dual channel ram and a b450m ds3h v2 mobo its more than i need , i also got an aftermarket cooler but forgot the name of it:)
That would be cool to see all 2nd gen and 3rd gen apu in a comparaison to see if the more expensive option are worth over this little beast
Can't believe it was 3 years ago now when this king of budget gaming launched
Do you plan on doing a test with the 7 5700g that was released in a HP pavilion recently? I haven’t been able to get my hands on one but I’ve seen interesting results.
Yeah, I haven’t been able to find one either haha
I've been using my AMD Ryzen 2200G since 2019 with 16gb of DDR4 ram. I never really thought about it's age, for my uses, my rigs been more than adequate and is most likely a LOOOONG way from needing any upgrades (probably until 2025 when Windows 10 will join Windows XP as part of PC history)
you a legend for this