I commented on this before. Your matrices are second to none. Highly informative and provides the viewers with visual/graphical content that is unmatched by simple verbal explanations.
One of the reasons why I like your reviews so much: you're opinionated and detailed. This stands out so much among a sea of reviews that end up saying the same thing. I might end up disagreeing on some points, but I can totally get behind why you ended up with that opinion; which is the more important thing to be able to understand deeply.
This makes me happy to read. I have strong opinions and I know they aren't the "norm" in the shoetube or running space. However, I make a point to back them up with reasoning or data AND check my own bias when I feel it getting out of hand. All in order to provide the most detailed POV I can. Even if you don't agree with my observation or conclusion I want you to know how and why I got there.... Always.
The biggest plus of the Peg Plus is: the internet trashtalks this shoe for no reason, so I expect huge sales already after 2-3months on this shoe. I think I gonna grab a pair of Peg Plus then. Thank you for your work.
Dunking on Nike for internet points is reaching new levels. It would be nice if people at least ran in the shoes before they dunked on them. One 5k jog in a shoe is by no means enough...
Thank you for the in-depth dive into these 2 shoes! I love my Asics and will probably always run with Asics but I've been eyeing the Nike Pegasus for a few weeks and I've been wanting to notice the differences. After this video I think I'll get the Peg 41's and try them out! I'm always down for trying out new shoes and brands to see how I like them. Nike Pegasus brings me back to the high school days in 2012 where that's all we wore along with the Air Force One's!
Pegs are as classic Nike running as you get, up there with Air Force Ones. They will have a very different feel than anything Asics is currently making, but they are wonderful. Even if you prefer them for casual wear over running.
Loved the review! Thank you so much for the comparison info. I'm coming from older Free Runs and the Zoom Fly 2 so this did an excellent job of explaining the current model layout and where these 2 shoes fit within my needs.
I started looking for new running shoes after using my Nike Flyknit Racers for years on and off. I went to my local running store not knowing anything about the current running shoe trend, and based of shopping online there wasn't a single shoe that spoke to me like my flyknit racers. Turns out they had these in stores weeks before they release and tried them on, i had no idea about this shoe and did research when i was there and i couldn't find anything about it, so i waited for more reviews before i pull the trigger. I loved the way they fit though, looked amazing (had the white colorway on), and they didn't feel bulky, heavy, or tall. Jumping from the low extremely light flyknit racer to most high stack thick foamy squishy running shoes that have been a trend for quiet some time was too much for me. The Pegasus Plus felt like a natural transition. Its either those or the On cloudflow 4s for me, but im leaning more for the Pegasus plus.
This is a very interesting use case, coming from where you are. Running shoes have changed a lot since the Flyknit racers. Though, given you missed all of it, the Peg Plus would be one of those shoes that would come to mind to recommend to you, where you get the best of modern foams, but in something relatable to what you are used too. The On Cloudflow 4 is another interesting one. In On's currently lineup it is very much a relic of their past, though it would be very relatable coming from a Flyknit Racer. Both will be good for you but for very different reasons.
You’ve mentioned the new Nike running shoe structure for a while now and they’ve made the Pegasus line very easy to understand they’re thought process on how it’ll work in the other lines, but I haven’t seen or heard anything about the next iteration of the vomero line. I love the 17 but I’m curious on what the 18 will be and what the function of the vomero plus would be. Either way, another great video
Here is the video going over all of the new Nike structure: ua-cam.com/video/CwsDdfZ8L0g/v-deo.html The Vomero line gets a standard/plus/premium....basically the V18 will be out next year (possible this year but no one has seen it yet in leaks), the Vomero Plus is the renamed Invincible (that name goes away) and the Vomero Premium is a dual air bag 50mm+ monster shoe.
Amazing content as always! Just wondering do you have the performance matrix for all of your reviews? Would be interesting to see one big chart per brand or like in general so the comparison is more comprehensive!
Not all reviews, mostly just super shoes and performance trainers. I actually do have a single large master file I use to gauge all of the shoes. Maybe something I'll publish at year end. Thank you for the kind words on the content. 🤙🏻
I have tried them a few times and have been unhappy. I ran in the Kayanos for years, but became unhappy. I haven't found a shoe I liked since. I really hope the Structure Plus is like the Pegasus Plus, so I can use the Arahi and the Structure Plus.
Is the Peg+ a bit more versatile than the Peg Turbo 2? I'm a 5'6" 79kg runner, I found the Turbo 2 only half decent at full 5km race pace...just didn't get on with it...yet people said it was a long run easy shoe!? But that was subjective depending on your weight and 'average pace'...it's sweet spot was below 5min/km...which for me was not my easy run pace. I usually wear an Invincible 3 for all my runs, mainly base miles and training miles, some efforts and intervals too...i can run a faster 5km in them, but a bit wallowy...i need something for my faster 5km runs...this Peg+ looks like it could be the shoe. Do you think it compliments the Invincible 3 as a fast shoe all round?
I'm a little taller than you and a little lighter than you and the Peg Plus works very well for the ranges I showed in the video, though it definitely is better at threshold and above, 5k pace is solid in this shoe...but I'd still opt for the Adidas Takumi Sen 10 as a dedicated 5k shoe. The Peg Plus would compliment the Invincible 3 well. Between the two you would have the full range of use covered, though a standard Peg 41 is a better partner for the Peg Plus and the shoe I'd pick over the I3 anyday.
I have been running in the Peg 41 for a few months and really love the shoe. I was excited to get the Peg + but I will say after a few days running in this shoe, I feel the Peg 41 is the better shoe for me. The Peg + is comfortable but after a few miles the foam starts to bottom out. I feel my toes hitting the ground. It also seems like the foam starts to lose some bounce after a few miles and has sort of a sluggish Hoka like feel to it. The Peg 41 never feels like that to me. Maybe it's the zoom air bag in the front? Im not sure. It also stays constant throughout the entire run. I also love the React X foam. It's definitely a step up from the regular react foam. To be honest, it feels like the original react foam from my favorite all time running shoe , the first Epic React. React seemed to keep getting firmer after that shoe. This is just my opinion.
You are describing a classic ZoomX issue, however I have yet to experience it in the Plus. Remember the Peg 41 is intended as a all rounder, it has a denser cushioning system that will work for more runners on really any type of run. The Plus is definitely a shoe that can take some trial and error to work into a rotation, especially if you aren't familiar with ZoomX. I find it an excellent workout shoe....
How were you able to purchase the Nike Plus in advance of official release? The turbo line has worked well for me (bought 14 pairs from version 1-3). I’m due for a new pair of running shoes in the worst way.
It actually released in Singapore on July 20th, either mistakenly or planned. That means it was released in all the countries that Nike ships to from Nike SG... that includes Taiwan. If you liked the Turbo that much...you should enjoy this one. It's not exactly the same shoe, it's improved in a few areas and modernized in others, but it's very very close.
I see the Peg Plus in seemingly 4 men's colours and 5 women's ones has now appeared on Nike UK as "Coming Soon" for £164.99. Think will got the white/red I had in the original Turbo. There is also an "Extra Wide" version of the Peg 41 there too. I note a lot of the "reviews" of the Plus already there refer to a Pegasus Turbo 4 not Plus so maybe the official name of Plus was only a late decision? Be interesting to see how many runners use both. I had the regular Peg 35 but hardly wore it in favour of the original Peg 35 Turbo and skipped the regular Peg 36 (although used the Trail one a fair bit) as was using Peg Turbo 2s for anything "everyday" back in 2019. I think the Peg 39/40 and now 41 have been increasingly better for me so will have to see how complementary they turn out to be for me. I wonder also if I am sort of wishing the max stack craze never happened and will go back to shoes that worked well for me pre Covid. Or will there be a sense of deja vu. That already seems theme of those reviewers unable to run over 6 miles without 30mm plus of stack.
The naming and Nike's running restructuring were all very last minute. Many of the leaked images of the Peg Plus, up until January 2024, were badged "Pegasus Turbo 4" on the tongue. The "Pegasus Plus" badged ones didn't start showing up until December 2023. So the switched, err approved restructuring, happened around New Years it seems. You will feel major de ja vu between the Peg41 and PegPlus and 2018/19...it's uncanny.
Hmm, if I compare this performance matrix against the one you used in your SL2 video, the Plus would sit quite ahead (faster) of the SL2, and somewhere between the Boston 12 and the Takumi Sen 10, is this right?🤔 Interesting shoe. Added to the list of potential non-plated tempo/workout shoes.
Yes, I do look at all of them together to gauge this. I have one big master file actually. The Peg Plus is the faster shoe, but alot. The full ZoomX midsole is the difference. The SL2 is fast but more of an all rounder. My next video is the PP vs SL2, I'll get into it all. Both are excellent shoes though.
Ha, I appreciate the support. Sadly only 3rd party retailers offer affiliate programs...and I'm not really interested in those. Enjoy both shoes, they are outstanding.
I currently run in a pair of 880v14 and rebel v4. Do you think the Pegasus plus would be a good shoe for up to half marathon training and race day for the same distance or should I look at the vomero or something else within new balance? I’m open to suggestions
The midsole foam on the Peg Plus looks likes its creasing already. A heavier runner would crush through that midsole in 100 miles or so. I wonder how resilient it will be without the react carrier. Interesting comparison
@@SagasuRunning I would imagine the Adios 9 will be much more of a plate less racer a la Streakfly than the Peg Plus. Adios 8 is already about 50g lighter than I think the Peg Plus will be for me. Peg Plus seems more like SL2 albeit presume more "plus" both in price and foams.
I have flat feet and my current daily is Adidas Supernova Solution, which is a little boring but works well. I tried the Pegasus Plus in store and the combination of soft ZoomX and significant cutout under the midfoot meant my feet were rolling inward a lot, even when just standing or walking. Is there a ZoomX shoe you’d recommend for beginners or people who need some stability?
Nope. ZoomX is a very unstable foam. It’s very soft and compressive. The Pegasus Plus is actually a very stable shoe, lots of engineering in the midsole to make it as stable as possible. However the foam is very soft and compressive…. Which you experienced. A carbon fiber plate helps to stabilize the ZoomX foam, but you don’t need that shoe right now. The Supernova Solution is a very good shoe… you have a good PEBA foam in them (like ZoomX). Enjoy them.
@@SagasuRunning Makes sense. What’s strange is that the shoe that has worked best for me over the years was Novablast 1. Maybe the cutout along the center of the midsole prevented the foot from rolling inward or outward, by collapsing a bit towards the center.
@sohelsanghani You are thinking the right thing. The NB1 was much firmer than ZoomX too. That center grove did a good job to center the foot and transition it to the forefoot.
@@SagasuRunning Yes, that's exactly right! Stable and along with the higher drop, it meant I could get on my toes very easily. Which current shoe would you say comes closest to Novablast 1 in these aspects? NB 4, or some other?
@@sohelsanghani Honestly, there isn't much out there right now like the NB1. The Mizuno Neo Vista may be the closets, but it is also very different...but it has that wildness about it. The NB4 is very different than the NB1, but would likely work well for you.
There’s gonna be another new peg coming out in Spring 2025 called Pegasus Premium with full length of visible Air Zoom unit, ZoomX foam in the midsole and ReactX foam in the heel.
@@striot yeah, some ppl complain about that. Vomero 17 is the closest to invincible but simply not that feeling. Don't know about Plus but 41 no, not cushioned as Vomero.
The Vomero 17 is Nike's cushioned trainer. However, I would go back and find my last V17 video and watch it. There are issues with the shoe for some runners. The Peg41 is the better shoe here...
The forefoot in the plus looks higher stacked than the 41 on the side by side, did Nike ever release any official specs? Glad the real feel is more like 6-8mm my biggest issue with Pegasus 39 is not getting on with that 10mm drop
I think u like Nike a tad too much. It kinda look "sponsored". An when u said Pumagrip was not imressiv, it just sounded weird. I like ur argumentation, but somtimes i feel like there is alot of brands u dont like, even if the "next generation" of a shoe-series is totaly changed.
On this channel I cover what is interesting to me and I tell it like it is. I've made no secret that I primarily run in Nike and Adidas, with a little Asics. I've made a point in 2024 to be as diverse as I can be, while still running in what is interesting to me. I love running shoe tech, thats why I started this channel, but my tastes in shoes are very much not inline with the current fads in running shoes. There are definitely some brands and shoes I have zero interest in covering, even when I try with an open mind. I'm trying to be as broad and complete covering as many brands as I can....but ultimately I'm just one running with very specific tastes. Also, I said Pumagrip was fantastic on the Velocity Nitro 3, not so much on the Deviate Nitro 3....
I think there was an error with me cause the site gave me a 10% discount on the plus. I got em for $162. Not bad. When I went back to the site the price was at $180 again.
I commented on this before. Your matrices are second to none. Highly informative and provides the viewers with visual/graphical content that is unmatched by simple verbal explanations.
The graphic designer in me always appreciates hearing this. 🙏🏻
@@SagasuRunning of course
Totally agreed, they are very helpful and insightful
One of the reasons why I like your reviews so much: you're opinionated and detailed. This stands out so much among a sea of reviews that end up saying the same thing. I might end up disagreeing on some points, but I can totally get behind why you ended up with that opinion; which is the more important thing to be able to understand deeply.
This makes me happy to read. I have strong opinions and I know they aren't the "norm" in the shoetube or running space. However, I make a point to back them up with reasoning or data AND check my own bias when I feel it getting out of hand. All in order to provide the most detailed POV I can.
Even if you don't agree with my observation or conclusion I want you to know how and why I got there.... Always.
I think you're the most learned runner on the Pegasus on UA-cam. Keep it up.
Ha! Honestly, that is a big goal of mine (seriously). Thank you for noticing! 🤙🏻
The biggest plus of the Peg Plus is: the internet trashtalks this shoe for no reason, so I expect huge sales already after 2-3months on this shoe.
I think I gonna grab a pair of Peg Plus then.
Thank you for your work.
Dunking on Nike for internet points is reaching new levels. It would be nice if people at least ran in the shoes before they dunked on them. One 5k jog in a shoe is by no means enough...
Thank you for the in-depth dive into these 2 shoes! I love my Asics and will probably always run with Asics but I've been eyeing the Nike Pegasus for a few weeks and I've been wanting to notice the differences. After this video I think I'll get the Peg 41's and try them out! I'm always down for trying out new shoes and brands to see how I like them. Nike Pegasus brings me back to the high school days in 2012 where that's all we wore along with the Air Force One's!
Pegs are as classic Nike running as you get, up there with Air Force Ones. They will have a very different feel than anything Asics is currently making, but they are wonderful. Even if you prefer them for casual wear over running.
I didn't really look at the P.Plus until this video! 👍
It's a great shoe. Very unexpected for me, even as someone who watched the leaks for it closely.
Loved the review! Thank you so much for the comparison info. I'm coming from older Free Runs and the Zoom Fly 2 so this did an excellent job of explaining the current model layout and where these 2 shoes fit within my needs.
Both of these will be a great fit for you then. Especially the Peg Plus as a modern/improved Free Run with much more performance.
I started looking for new running shoes after using my Nike Flyknit Racers for years on and off. I went to my local running store not knowing anything about the current running shoe trend, and based of shopping online there wasn't a single shoe that spoke to me like my flyknit racers. Turns out they had these in stores weeks before they release and tried them on, i had no idea about this shoe and did research when i was there and i couldn't find anything about it, so i waited for more reviews before i pull the trigger. I loved the way they fit though, looked amazing (had the white colorway on), and they didn't feel bulky, heavy, or tall. Jumping from the low extremely light flyknit racer to most high stack thick foamy squishy running shoes that have been a trend for quiet some time was too much for me. The Pegasus Plus felt like a natural transition. Its either those or the On cloudflow 4s for me, but im leaning more for the Pegasus plus.
This is a very interesting use case, coming from where you are. Running shoes have changed a lot since the Flyknit racers. Though, given you missed all of it, the Peg Plus would be one of those shoes that would come to mind to recommend to you, where you get the best of modern foams, but in something relatable to what you are used too.
The On Cloudflow 4 is another interesting one. In On's currently lineup it is very much a relic of their past, though it would be very relatable coming from a Flyknit Racer.
Both will be good for you but for very different reasons.
Goodness I miss my flyknit racers, such great shoes.
@joelkelsey7788 Nike has retro’d them a few times. But never a huge release.
Excelent and informative. way to go.
Thank you for watching. 🤙🏻
Awesome content. Very excited to be getting the Peg Plus soon
Enjoy them...they are an exciting shoe. 🤙🏻
What a fantastic well made and informative video. A new subscriber for sure. 🎉. Thank you.
Welcome to the channel and thank you for watching. 🤙🏻
Excellent video, thank you!
Thank you for watching! 🤙🏻
When you really want a deep dive in dept shoe specific analysis there is no one better then Sagasu! And it’s not even close.
Great to hear. That is definitely what I try to do here! 💪🏻
You’ve mentioned the new Nike running shoe structure for a while now and they’ve made the Pegasus line very easy to understand they’re thought process on how it’ll work in the other lines, but I haven’t seen or heard anything about the next iteration of the vomero line. I love the 17 but I’m curious on what the 18 will be and what the function of the vomero plus would be. Either way, another great video
Here is the video going over all of the new Nike structure: ua-cam.com/video/CwsDdfZ8L0g/v-deo.html
The Vomero line gets a standard/plus/premium....basically the V18 will be out next year (possible this year but no one has seen it yet in leaks), the Vomero Plus is the renamed Invincible (that name goes away) and the Vomero Premium is a dual air bag 50mm+ monster shoe.
This was super helpful!
I’m glad. Two great shoes! 🤙🏻
@@SagasuRunningI ended up going with the Plus off the back of this video - so again, a huge thank you!
Excellent shoe. Enjoy them! 🤙🏻
@@andyvanbergen8844 Enjoy them….
waiting for next vid... 2024 Streakfly vs Pegasus Plus!
There is one more video coming…. But not that.
It is unlikely I would do that comparison … but the SF2 vs TS10 will definitely happen.
Amazing content as always! Just wondering do you have the performance matrix for all of your reviews? Would be interesting to see one big chart per brand or like in general so the comparison is more comprehensive!
Not all reviews, mostly just super shoes and performance trainers. I actually do have a single large master file I use to gauge all of the shoes. Maybe something I'll publish at year end.
Thank you for the kind words on the content. 🤙🏻
I am looking forward to the Structure and the Structure Plus.
Interesting. Have you run in the Structure series for a long time?
I have tried them a few times and have been unhappy. I ran in the Kayanos for years, but became unhappy. I haven't found a shoe I liked since. I really hope the Structure Plus is like the Pegasus Plus, so I can use the Arahi and the Structure Plus.
I don’t think it will be like the Peg Plus at all. It will be more like the Arahi or Clifton….
Is the Peg+ a bit more versatile than the Peg Turbo 2? I'm a 5'6" 79kg runner, I found the Turbo 2 only half decent at full 5km race pace...just didn't get on with it...yet people said it was a long run easy shoe!? But that was subjective depending on your weight and 'average pace'...it's sweet spot was below 5min/km...which for me was not my easy run pace.
I usually wear an Invincible 3 for all my runs, mainly base miles and training miles, some efforts and intervals too...i can run a faster 5km in them, but a bit wallowy...i need something for my faster 5km runs...this Peg+ looks like it could be the shoe. Do you think it compliments the Invincible 3 as a fast shoe all round?
I'm a little taller than you and a little lighter than you and the Peg Plus works very well for the ranges I showed in the video, though it definitely is better at threshold and above, 5k pace is solid in this shoe...but I'd still opt for the Adidas Takumi Sen 10 as a dedicated 5k shoe.
The Peg Plus would compliment the Invincible 3 well. Between the two you would have the full range of use covered, though a standard Peg 41 is a better partner for the Peg Plus and the shoe I'd pick over the I3 anyday.
Nice video, thanks for the info reviews. Likes my novablast 4
Thank you for watching. 🤙🏻
I have been running in the Peg 41 for a few months and really love the shoe. I was excited to get the Peg + but I will say after a few days running in this shoe, I feel the Peg 41 is the better shoe for me. The Peg + is comfortable but after a few miles the foam starts to bottom out. I feel my toes hitting the ground. It also seems like the foam starts to lose some bounce after a few miles and has sort of a sluggish Hoka like feel to it. The Peg 41 never feels like that to me. Maybe it's the zoom air bag in the front? Im not sure. It also stays constant throughout the entire run. I also love the React X foam. It's definitely a step up from the regular react foam. To be honest, it feels like the original react foam from my favorite all time running shoe , the first Epic React. React seemed to keep getting firmer after that shoe. This is just my opinion.
You are describing a classic ZoomX issue, however I have yet to experience it in the Plus. Remember the Peg 41 is intended as a all rounder, it has a denser cushioning system that will work for more runners on really any type of run. The Plus is definitely a shoe that can take some trial and error to work into a rotation, especially if you aren't familiar with ZoomX. I find it an excellent workout shoe....
ty 4 good info
Thank you for watching. 🤙🏻
How were you able to purchase the Nike Plus in advance of official release? The turbo line has worked well for me (bought 14 pairs from version 1-3). I’m due for a new pair of running shoes in the worst way.
It actually released in Singapore on July 20th, either mistakenly or planned. That means it was released in all the countries that Nike ships to from Nike SG... that includes Taiwan.
If you liked the Turbo that much...you should enjoy this one. It's not exactly the same shoe, it's improved in a few areas and modernized in others, but it's very very close.
I see the Peg Plus in seemingly 4 men's colours and 5 women's ones has now appeared on Nike UK as "Coming Soon" for £164.99. Think will got the white/red I had in the original Turbo. There is also an "Extra Wide" version of the Peg 41 there too. I note a lot of the "reviews" of the Plus already there refer to a Pegasus Turbo 4 not Plus so maybe the official name of Plus was only a late decision? Be interesting to see how many runners use both. I had the regular Peg 35 but hardly wore it in favour of the original Peg 35 Turbo and skipped the regular Peg 36 (although used the Trail one a fair bit) as was using Peg Turbo 2s for anything "everyday" back in 2019. I think the Peg 39/40 and now 41 have been increasingly better for me so will have to see how complementary they turn out to be for me. I wonder also if I am sort of wishing the max stack craze never happened and will go back to shoes that worked well for me pre Covid. Or will there be a sense of deja vu. That already seems theme of those reviewers unable to run over 6 miles without 30mm plus of stack.
The naming and Nike's running restructuring were all very last minute. Many of the leaked images of the Peg Plus, up until January 2024, were badged "Pegasus Turbo 4" on the tongue. The "Pegasus Plus" badged ones didn't start showing up until December 2023. So the switched, err approved restructuring, happened around New Years it seems.
You will feel major de ja vu between the Peg41 and PegPlus and 2018/19...it's uncanny.
Wonderful!
🙏🏻
Hmm, if I compare this performance matrix against the one you used in your SL2 video, the Plus would sit quite ahead (faster) of the SL2, and somewhere between the Boston 12 and the Takumi Sen 10, is this right?🤔 Interesting shoe. Added to the list of potential non-plated tempo/workout shoes.
Yes, I do look at all of them together to gauge this. I have one big master file actually.
The Peg Plus is the faster shoe, but alot. The full ZoomX midsole is the difference. The SL2 is fast but more of an all rounder. My next video is the PP vs SL2, I'll get into it all.
Both are excellent shoes though.
We need referral links so Nike can track how much influence you have. :) Just ordered a pair of Peg41s and Peg Plus.
Ha, I appreciate the support. Sadly only 3rd party retailers offer affiliate programs...and I'm not really interested in those. Enjoy both shoes, they are outstanding.
@@SagasuRunning you’re the best shoetuber. attention to detail + historical perspectives are unrivaled.
@@citizendan6390 🙏🏻
Thank you a lot
Thank you for watching. 🤙🏻
Great video! Thank you! Would you choose Zoom Fly 5 or Pegs
Plus for tempo runs?
I wouldn't choose the Zoom Fly 5 for anything, I won't even be covering the 6. The Peg Plus is Nike's fast trainer now, no contest.
@@SagasuRunning Thank you! Not a fan of the racing stripe… maybe it’ll grow on me!
Keep up the great content!!
I’m not a fan of it either, it is what it is. At least in the black one I have it’s fairly subtle. Thank you for the support! 🤙🏻
I currently run in a pair of 880v14 and rebel v4. Do you think the Pegasus plus would be a good shoe for up to half marathon training and race day for the same distance or should I look at the vomero or something else within new balance? I’m open to suggestions
If you want a non plated option, there is lower stack then it will be the best option on the market.
Pegasus plus looks great I think I'm going to grab a pair !
They are very good. Definitely a surprise for those who give them a chance.
I think that's all you're gonna get, good looking shoe for lifestyle
The midsole foam on the Peg Plus looks likes its creasing already. A heavier runner would crush through that midsole in 100 miles or so. I wonder how resilient it will be without the react carrier. Interesting comparison
That’s what ZoomX does. It no longer needs the React carrier. In fact the Vomero 17 proved it doesn’t work.
It will be very interesting to compare the pegasus plus with the "forbidden red shoe" once it comes out.
That will be the comparison of the year. I’ll be on it as soon as I can be….
what is the forbidden red shoe? 🧐
@driqspurgeon It’s forbidden and red . 😂 (Adidas Adios 9).
@@SagasuRunning I would imagine the Adios 9 will be much more of a plate less racer a la Streakfly than the Peg Plus. Adios 8 is already about 50g lighter than I think the Peg Plus will be for me. Peg Plus seems more like SL2 albeit presume more "plus" both in price and foams.
I have flat feet and my current daily is Adidas Supernova Solution, which is a little boring but works well. I tried the Pegasus Plus in store and the combination of soft ZoomX and significant cutout under the midfoot meant my feet were rolling inward a lot, even when just standing or walking. Is there a ZoomX shoe you’d recommend for beginners or people who need some stability?
Nope. ZoomX is a very unstable foam. It’s very soft and compressive. The Pegasus Plus is actually a very stable shoe, lots of engineering in the midsole to make it as stable as possible. However the foam is very soft and compressive…. Which you experienced.
A carbon fiber plate helps to stabilize the ZoomX foam, but you don’t need that shoe right now.
The Supernova Solution is a very good shoe… you have a good PEBA foam in them (like ZoomX). Enjoy them.
@@SagasuRunning Makes sense. What’s strange is that the shoe that has worked best for me over the years was Novablast 1. Maybe the cutout along the center of the midsole prevented the foot from rolling inward or outward, by collapsing a bit towards the center.
@sohelsanghani You are thinking the right thing. The NB1 was much firmer than ZoomX too. That center grove did a good job to center the foot and transition it to the forefoot.
@@SagasuRunning Yes, that's exactly right! Stable and along with the higher drop, it meant I could get on my toes very easily. Which current shoe would you say comes closest to Novablast 1 in these aspects? NB 4, or some other?
@@sohelsanghani Honestly, there isn't much out there right now like the NB1. The Mizuno Neo Vista may be the closets, but it is also very different...but it has that wildness about it. The NB4 is very different than the NB1, but would likely work well for you.
There’s gonna be another new peg coming out in Spring 2025 called Pegasus Premium with full length of visible Air Zoom unit, ZoomX foam in the midsole and ReactX foam in the heel.
Mentioned in this video AND I did a video on it a few months ago…
I wonder if Nike is planning Vomero Plus as well, full ZoomX but higher stack than Pegasus Plus.
The Vomero Plus will be the Invincible 4 (that name is going away), so yes....it will be.
What’s more cushioned between 41, plus and Vomero 17?
Invincible 3:)
@@gogigp Invincible 3 don’t work… heel slippage is horrible…
@@striot yeah, some ppl complain about that. Vomero 17 is the closest to invincible but simply not that feeling. Don't know about Plus but 41 no, not cushioned as Vomero.
The Vomero 17 is Nike's cushioned trainer. However, I would go back and find my last V17 video and watch it. There are issues with the shoe for some runners. The Peg41 is the better shoe here...
The forefoot in the plus looks higher stacked than the 41 on the side by side, did Nike ever release any official specs? Glad the real feel is more like 6-8mm my biggest issue with Pegasus 39 is not getting on with that 10mm drop
The Peg Plus has sidewalls around the entire footbed, which help to stabilize the full ZoomX midsole on the foot. They give the shoe a deceptive look.
Can you use Nike Pegasus Plus just for all day walking?
The Peg41 is a better option for that. I mean, it will work fine…
Bring Back the Nike Free Run Distance!
They are coming...but the Peg Plus is a better Nike free... much more performance.
I can’t see the join option . Is there a link in the description. Nevermind - found it . I’m in
The whole iOS app thing is annoying...
Turbo forefoot 23mm? It don’t seems that low… looks higher than Peg 41 and it has 27mm…
360 sidewalls on the Peg Plus midsole are deceptive. The Peg41 has no sidewalls in the forefoot, only the heel.
Could you summarise this comparsion in 1 word?
Complimentary.
Expect Pegasus 41 Pro Max soon😂
That’s more an Asics product name… 😂
Forefoot 23mm 😂 just a fashion sneakers, not foor running on the asphalt road 😂
Honestly, I don't know if I should laugh or cry when I see comments like this. 🤦🏼♂️
I think u like Nike a tad too much. It kinda look "sponsored". An when u said Pumagrip was not imressiv, it just sounded weird. I like ur argumentation, but somtimes i feel like there is alot of brands u dont like, even if the "next generation" of a shoe-series is totaly changed.
On this channel I cover what is interesting to me and I tell it like it is. I've made no secret that I primarily run in Nike and Adidas, with a little Asics. I've made a point in 2024 to be as diverse as I can be, while still running in what is interesting to me. I love running shoe tech, thats why I started this channel, but my tastes in shoes are very much not inline with the current fads in running shoes. There are definitely some brands and shoes I have zero interest in covering, even when I try with an open mind. I'm trying to be as broad and complete covering as many brands as I can....but ultimately I'm just one running with very specific tastes.
Also, I said Pumagrip was fantastic on the Velocity Nitro 3, not so much on the Deviate Nitro 3....
I think there was an error with me cause the site gave me a 10% discount on the plus. I got em for $162. Not bad. When I went back to the site the price was at $180 again.
Consider yourself lucky then. 😂 Enjoy them. The Plus is a great shoe.