Omg I felt so weird when I found him attractive in this movie. But is something in the eyes and the way he moves I find so sexy. The guy is not even my type by far but in this case…🔥🥵
If you really come to think of it why would an intelligent educated man meet with the enemies. Sir Francis job is to protect his Queen as well as her kingdom. He knows that Mary is just like him strong, highly intelligent and a good politician . What is the best way to defeat the enemies? This is the reason why Queen Elizabeth era reigned for 40 years . She was sorrounded by highly intelligent, educated and sleek advisors .
3:33, the french actor was too violent with his moves, you can see the actress closing her eyes for a split second, which would be quite hard for the corpse to do...
Two truly brilliant films !! Watch them so many times never get bored of them Francis walsingham was truly one of the greatest spy masters ever to grace this country
@@johnfairweather9188 hahaha I’m well aware the films were done with a twist on the (facts) been the professor of anthropology and head of the Tudor studies at Oxford I should of known that my dear chap
@@Dannydawson537 1. I don’t care who you SAY you are, you’re not making a cogent point. The movies are a historical joke even if you never existed. Incorrect history is not a “twist” on history. Is that what you told your students? As someone who DOES have a degree in history, I certainly hope not. 2. I can’t find any reference to you or your august educational position. Please supply a reference for confirmation. 3. I would think that an Oxford professor would say “being the professor” or “having been the professor”, and not “been the professor”, which is grammatically incorrect there Danny boy.
@@johnfairweather9188 well well well someone really fell out of his boyfriends bed on the wrong side thanks for the life story a real good old spiel yawn 🥱better than sleeping tablets if you didn’t like either films or found them to be anywhere accurate then why watch them old boy ? Why not just turn of your vhs video and get back to whatever boring profession you do , iam a very important person far far more important than you will ever be I can see you are a jealous sort of guy even saying my grammar is incorrect been dyslexic and only having 30% vision I do get some thing’s wrong but you in your pink tight leggings and leather gimp mask have no room to talk sir !
Am I the only one who sensed some incestual undertones here with the nephew kissing his aunt in such a away? Creeps. Lol the actress who played the French queen was well played. Great play opposite rush.
low-key the best scene in the film. I love how he's so seductive despite being ugly. it's almost like he uses it to enhance his charisma and ends up being more appealing and she can't resist him XD
Because it’s a different language. Yes they are remarkably similar but it’s like just because you know French doesn’t mean you know the word for every single English word. Like how Spanish and Italian are very similar, but that doesn’t mean an Italian speaker automatically knows all words in Spanish. It was probably more surprising for her to learn that English also had a similar word for enemy as the French version.
At that time, he was the equivalent of MI6. He had a huge network of spies all over Europe, who wrote to him in code about what was going on in the countries they lived in.
But not for long. The very young French King, Francis, died a hideous death from a brain abscess that erupted out from his ear and Mary was not permitted to marry the younger brother Charles. ..you see where GOT got ideas from. Unlike Margery and Tommen, the jealous mother~in~law, Catherine de Medici, didn't allow the beautiful young royal widow to seduce her second son and Mary went back to begin her ill~fated Scottish reign
She wasn't poisoned. She had been complaining about swelling in her legs weeks before the meetings with the English. People were just in chronic poor health back then.
Also, am I the only one who hates when actors wear modern makeup and hair products in period pieces? These people were so poxxed up they had to paint their faces sheet white and cover themselves in rogue and it was still noticable.
@@HumanoidCableDreads but the authentic look would be horrible. Teeth probably blackening around this time too. I can hardly imagine the Virgin Queen has the pox, if you mean syphilis, and contrary to Philippa Gregory, Elizabeth cane through smallpox with scarcely a mark, though one of her ladies caught it nursing the Queen and was hideously disfigured by it. Also contrary to Philippa Gregory, Elizabeth wasn't a complete bitch who hated all young women. She never forgot this lady's sacrifice, Sometimes she'd clear the court so the lady could visit without everyone grimacing in horror at her poor face..idk why Gregory hates on the Queen so much, shes always celebrating beauty and fertility and youth..not very feminist. Elizabeth was awesome,.she kept all those great men..Cecil, Dudley, Walsingham...totally faithful to her, she knew great men get bored easily and how to keep them dancing attendance by always changing her mind and mood
@@wyettmuth8411She was Queen Regent, not Queen. Her daughter, Mary, Queen of Scots, was Queen, but she was very young and was also at the French court to marry the Dauphin and become Queen of France, and in Catholic eyes Queen of England as well. Mary was induced to quarter the arms of England on her shield which made her forever untrustworthy in the eyes of Cecil and Walsingham. The Guise family held Scotland for Mary but the on the spot ruler was her half brother, James, a Protestant, resentful of his bastardy ....and here I stop before I recite it all, this is what comes of reading Jean Plaidy at 16....😂
Honestly, I watch this just to listen to Fanny Ardant's voice.
fanoflife123 🙋🏾♂️ same!!! Definitely me too! I first saw her beautiful, ethereal form in this movie and I’ve been captivated ever since!
I love her voice and accent. Beautiful.
Never mind just watching her act! Still the sexiest woman in the world!
Me three!
Geoffrey just is king of all dramas in all space and time.
The innuendos with the knife, yikes!
*There are 3 beautiful actresses at senior age. Fanny Ardant, Faye Dunaway and Lena Olin.*
god, Geoffrey was such a sexy beast in this movie
Omg I felt so weird when I found him attractive in this movie. But is something in the eyes and the way he moves I find so sexy. The guy is not even my type by far but in this case…🔥🥵
If you really come to think of it why would an intelligent educated man meet with the enemies. Sir Francis job is to protect his Queen as well as her kingdom. He knows that Mary is just like him strong, highly intelligent and a good politician . What is the best way to defeat the enemies? This is the reason why Queen Elizabeth era reigned for 40 years . She was sorrounded by highly intelligent, educated and sleek advisors .
Vincent Cassel is a wonderful actor 👍🏴
The actress playing Mary Q O Scots is AMAZING in this scene.
She is Mary of Guise, a french noblewoman of the House of Guise and mother of Mary of Scotland
Mary de Guise or Mary of Guise is portrayed by French actress Fanny Ardant.
3:33, the french actor was too violent with his moves, you can see the actress closing her eyes for a split second, which would be quite hard for the corpse to do...
He was so violent, the corpse had to die again to preserve her decaying dignity
Two truly brilliant films !! Watch them so many times never get bored of them Francis walsingham was truly one of the greatest spy masters ever to grace this country
Brilliant films? Are you serious? They are so historically inaccurate that they are a joke.
@@johnfairweather9188 hahaha I’m well aware the films were done with a twist on the (facts) been the professor of anthropology and head of the Tudor studies at Oxford I should of known that my dear chap
@@Dannydawson537 1. I don’t care who you SAY you are, you’re not making a cogent point. The movies are a historical joke even if you never existed. Incorrect history is not a “twist” on history. Is that what you told your students? As someone who DOES have a degree in history, I certainly hope not.
2. I can’t find any reference to you or your august educational position. Please supply a reference for confirmation.
3. I would think that an Oxford professor would say “being the professor” or “having been the professor”, and not “been the professor”, which is grammatically incorrect there Danny boy.
@@johnfairweather9188 well well well someone really fell out of his boyfriends bed on the wrong side thanks for the life story a real good old spiel yawn 🥱better than sleeping tablets if you didn’t like either films or found them to be anywhere accurate then why watch them old boy ? Why not just turn of your vhs video and get back to whatever boring profession you do , iam a very important person far far more important than you will ever be I can see you are a jealous sort of guy even saying my grammar is incorrect been dyslexic and only having 30% vision I do get some thing’s wrong but you in your pink tight leggings and leather gimp mask have no room to talk sir !
Fanny is so beautiful.
And 53 too. It's all about grace
No one said film always had to be historically accurate.
The real history is more interesting than this pile of nonsense.
thats some hardcore grown up flirting
hardcore grown up porn afterwards, judging by Mary's state on that bed 💋
she's beautiful
that "yes" @1:35 .... ooooou.
brilliant actress! beautiful smile. sublime lips!
Am I the only one who sensed some incestual undertones here with the nephew kissing his aunt in such a away? Creeps. Lol the actress who played the French queen was well played. Great play opposite rush.
No, no one did. You're a genius.
@@jeangove01 LOL
She is the Scottish Queen Mother ruling for her daughter Mary Queen of Scots who was away in France.
They are not related to each other..that man is Francis, Duke of Anjou, the youngest son of Henry II of France and Catherine de Medici.
“I don’t mind the French. It’s just that they are so very... French.”
Sir Thomas More
She is beautiful.
Calypso I free you from ur earthly bonds
Hahahaha
🤣🤣🤣🤣
In reality this wouldn't have been creepy, it would have been insanely ballsy though, given that their families hated each other.
Masterpiece
low-key the best scene in the film. I love how he's so seductive despite being ugly. it's almost like he uses it to enhance his charisma and ends up being more appealing and she can't resist him XD
ugly?? not!!!!
Geoffrey rush is not ugly sir
Proves attitude trumps appearances.
Fanny Ardant ugly? C’mon!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@marce2409 no, she isn't. Was talking about Geoffrey. Spitting that ugly guy game like mad
“Enemy” in French is “ennemie” - how can you forget the word which is the same in your language too?
Because it’s a different language. Yes they are remarkably similar but it’s like just because you know French doesn’t mean you know the word for every single English word. Like how Spanish and Italian are very similar, but that doesn’t mean an Italian speaker automatically knows all words in Spanish. It was probably more surprising for her to learn that English also had a similar word for enemy as the French version.
Interesting scene. But complete historical fiction.
Walsingham could have fitted in MI 6.
At that time, he was the equivalent of MI6. He had a huge network of spies all over Europe, who wrote to him in code about what was going on in the countries they lived in.
Exactly. To follow the simile, Walsingham had been Bond, and became M.
Walsingham was one badass mother******.
So where was Mary Queen of Scots during all this?
She was the reigning Queen of France when her mother died, so she was in France with her husband.
But not for long. The very young French King, Francis, died a hideous death from a brain abscess that erupted out from his ear and Mary was not permitted to marry the younger brother Charles. ..you see where GOT got ideas from. Unlike Margery and Tommen, the jealous mother~in~law, Catherine de Medici, didn't allow the beautiful young royal widow to seduce her second son and Mary went back to begin her ill~fated Scottish reign
Brilliant ♥️
Well that's not exactly how that went down
Was she supposed to be a corpse? Why would a corpse shut its eyes?
Love doing this in Crusader kings 3
Very interesting scene of fiction.. why is Francis, Duke of Anjou in that scene???
She wasn't poisoned. She had been complaining about swelling in her legs weeks before the meetings with the English. People were just in chronic poor health back then.
Also, am I the only one who hates when actors wear modern makeup and hair products in period pieces? These people were so poxxed up they had to paint their faces sheet white and cover themselves in rogue and it was still noticable.
Meanwhile these actors have clean skin, natural colored makeup, and hair gel.
@@HumanoidCableDreads but the authentic look would be horrible. Teeth probably blackening around this time too.
I can hardly imagine the Virgin Queen has the pox, if you mean syphilis, and contrary to Philippa Gregory, Elizabeth cane through smallpox with scarcely a mark, though one of her ladies caught it nursing the Queen and was hideously disfigured by it.
Also contrary to Philippa Gregory, Elizabeth wasn't a complete bitch who hated all young women. She never forgot this lady's sacrifice, Sometimes she'd clear the court so the lady could visit without everyone grimacing in horror at her poor face..idk why Gregory hates on the Queen so much, shes always celebrating beauty and fertility and youth..not very feminist. Elizabeth was awesome,.she kept all those great men..Cecil, Dudley, Walsingham...totally faithful to her, she knew great men get bored easily and how to keep them dancing attendance by always changing her mind and mood
The Duc was also five years old when Mary de Guise died… and she had already been dead for 19 years when the Duc proposed to Elizabeth.
nobody cares
3:27
Flick flub!! She closed her eyes!!
Dafuqs up with your profile pic?
I can't see her close her eyes!
so what was the cause of death actually?
NO
Dropsy.
is there any accuracy in this ?
No. Marie never met Walsingham and she died of dropsy
Ummm, the man on the other side of the table eating is the Earl of Arran?
Elizabeth
What does her nephew say at the end, screaming at the servants? Chantez??
Sortez - get out
I never understood this scene. What was the purpose of Francis going to visit the queen of France, did he kill her? For what reason?
She wasn’t the queen of france. Mary of Guise was the queen at Scotland. She was conspiring with Elizabeth’s enemies to have her overthrown
@@wyettmuth8411She was Queen Regent, not Queen. Her daughter, Mary, Queen of Scots, was Queen, but she was very young and was also at the French court to marry the Dauphin and become Queen of France, and in Catholic eyes Queen of England as well.
Mary was induced to quarter the arms of England on her shield which made her forever untrustworthy in the eyes of Cecil and Walsingham.
The Guise family held Scotland for Mary but the on the spot ruler was her half brother, James, a Protestant, resentful of his bastardy ....and here I stop before I recite it all, this is what comes of reading Jean Plaidy at 16....😂
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