Let's Review the new Arrma Mojave Grom and the upgrade it with a budget brushless system! Is this the best small scale RC basher ever made? Let's find out!
This is quickly becoming my favorite RC channel. I’d really like to see a video about basher tuning! I know most people say “it’s a basher, who cares” but things like shock oil and shock springs make a MASSIVE difference for landings and big bashing. If your shocks are using thin fluid they aren’t absorbing as much shock as they could be, causing extra wear and damage. if the fluid is too thick it won’t be active enough for small bumps and may even bounce more on landings
Absolutely but I will admit that I am certainly not the best at vehicle tuning. I run so many different cars that I've become very tolerant to imperfect setups. I do try to get them at least reasonably close but there are definitely racers and stuff out there that are way better than I am.
@@DoRC it’s more of a personal feel thing for bashers since there’s nothing on the line. I for one almost always change out stock shock oils for bashers. They’re often way too thin which leads to chassis slap and underutilized suspension. Gotta think of it as a Goldilocks situation. Going too fair in either direction can be detrimental
There is actually soooo much room for 1/18. For $5 you can get an esc mount, use the stock servo and not have to leave that giant receiver in there And you can use stock fan. Then you have about 2 inches of free space between motor and esc.
Dude knows his stuff! 10BL60 is a gem that no one talks about for 1/12-1/18 scale. It has 60a running and a 320a peak (or something RIDICULOUS like that). Whereas, that Mamba Micro X2 everyone keeps talking about is only 40a running, 80a peak. 10BL60 also has a smaller footprint than the Micro X2. It’s a bit taller but that’s because it comes w/ a fan whereas the Micro X2 does not. I ran the Micro X2 w/ the 8k KV motor and the motor shaft blew up in my Mini B. Now, I run a 10BL60 w/ a 2848SL 4k KV. It’s WAY faster and worlds more reliable and runs a lot cooler.
Interesting. I've found that the X2 is a little more powerful than the 10 BL60 but I've never done any actual scientific testing on it so can't guarantee that
@@DoRC Hmm.. I didn’t notice the Micro X2 having more power, but I didn’t run the 2848SL on it. I noticed it got hotter than the 10BL60, much faster. It would also cut out randomly and come back on if you pushed or picked up the car. My hobby shop actually let me return the Micro X2. Haven’t had any of those issues w/ the Hobbywing setup and it’s definitely much faster. The 2848SL is crazy lol
@FilthUD That's strange. It almost sounds like that X2 was defective because in my experience the X2 ESCs have lots of jam and run pretty cool even without a fan on these cars especially
I love your content and how informative you are. For us newer guys in the hobby it really helps. Can’t wait to see your channel grow. You honestly deserve so much more subs, my friend!! 👏🏼🤘🏼
I was really surprised with how flat and level mine jumped off my little ramp. I expected it to nose dive bad. It's a good little truck. The leaning and skidding around was a pleasant surprise. Waiting on the truck to drop off my brushless stuff right now.
Check out the HBX 3100A SCT! Hobbywing brushless system, 35mph on 3s, live rear axle/trailing arm suspension, metal gears and about $130 USD! Not many people seem to have reviewed it but worth a look! 👍
Just came home with a slightly used Kagama and i can't be more thankful for your videos on the Kag! This one was great also, I was no fan of the big brands, but i like the smaller cars too. The chinese ones just seem to cut corners left and right. These groms are looking so nice
@johanneswicklein4975 wheels might be a problem, though. With THAT body, and all of that awesome suspension travel, the stock tires already sometimes rub against the body. It'll only get worse with bigger tires...
I got one from my local hobby shop because my pre order was taking forever( it came in yesterday) love it keeping both 😬 and I’m here for as many videos you feel like making on this Mojave grom platform. But hit it with 3s I just seen a video yesterday dude got 57mph. So make as many Mojave grom videos as you’d like😎
Yeah I'm sure they will be people going really fast with these. That's not really my goal as I'm primarily an off-road basher so no matter what I do I'll probably not be hitting 57 miles an hour :-)
I just got mine and put a hobbywing quickrun 2435 motor in it with a mjx hyper go 45a brushless Esc. Also pretty cheap and works really well! Awesome video!
Was waiting for your video on a brushless Mojave grom! I was wondering - did you notice the ability to air control the grom on 2s? Brushed has no air control where even the typhon had some so I’m curious - great video as always!
No unfortunately the air control really didn't get much better. Obviously it's a little bit better because of the increased wheel speed but the small tires coupled with the high mass of the car means you're just not going to get much air control. Of course they'll definitely be some air control in the next video :-)
I'd be really interested to see if you can safely get an IC2 onto that or another brushless ESC. Big benefit to this platform is the USB-C charger and battery, gives it immediate portability. Would also be interested in seeing if there are any decent brushed motor options in order to keep the rest stock. This was great, as usual, cheers.
I don't see any reason why you can't. What I did in the video works just fine it's just kind of unsafe. As far as brushed options I honestly don't think that's worth even trying to pursue. If you're going to spend money just go brushless.
I do have that brushed combo I yanked out of the Gorgon in a box somewhere. It's already a combo esc/ receiver unit also. Surely there isn't room to mount that motor though.... hang on, I gotta go rummage through some parts.
I saw a video on here of someone putting a Traxxas 380 motor and getting 4-5 extra mph. It seemed like it dropped right in. I think it is TRA7075, but not sure offhand.
As someone with a 16bl30 in a granite grom I’m not convinced it would handle 3s. It does get quite toasty on 2s. That being said I’ve only ever ran it on 2s with a variety of motors for several years and it’s still ticking.
Thanks for the video! This is great and yes we would love to see just how wiild you can take the Majove. Just be wwarned, I have gone through 4 of the cheap brushless systems off amazon. They go up in smoke if the wind blows wrong. LOL I ended up putting the Hobbywing 60am in the Majave last night and I have the Castle micro in my Typhon. I should have just saved money and bought these from the start. Lessons learned on my end.
Absolutely. The cheap Amazon motors are fine but the ESCs are junk. That's why I put a 10 BL60 in this one. Check out my next video in the list as I've already released the wild upgrade :-)
Yeah, you’ll definitely need to upgrade those diffs and the plastic drive components. The extra weight on a grippy track equals broken diff and dogbone. Horizon Hobby did warranty the components, so that was cool.
I am anxiously awaiting these guys. But don't look at your Horizon account on these. It will be the highest of highs when your preorder says avail and they hit your card. Then you wait for tracking and it says backorder. Lowest of lows.
@@DoRC there’s no rumors about it but I refuse to believe they’re not working on one. Seems like the next logical setup. Could even be their first blx grom, but I’ll just be happy if they do any version of it because the 3s big rock was my favorite 1/10 scale until I blew my 5th slipper and then the driveshafts started to go out.
@@DoRC now that I think about it, I’d like to see a big rock 4s too. That would basically be the perfect arrma imo. I thought about the k4, but it’s kinda too similar to my erevo. The thing that makes a big rock so awesome is the tires. The narrow width closer to a SCT tire but retains the thick sidewalls of a MT tire. You don’t really see that style from other brands very much
@dylanwhite6539 Yeah we'll see. Not sure they will do one since they already have a monster truck but I'm going to be doing something kind of similar in the next video so stay tuned :-)
Great video as usual! Should have mine out by end of week. Idk how you guys make videos sooo fast. I'm getting better though! Thank you for the info! 😊
I don't like doing links for two reasons. The first one is they're always changing so they end up becoming invalid and the other one is I don't want you to think I'm trying to sell you anything because I'm not :-)
Great content as always, really like your channel, If you keep it up it will definately grow! I have my own preorder on this (Europe) so I've watched a lot of videos on the Mojave Grom, what I found odd was you getting 19mph out of it stock when pretty much all other reviews on this car seems to get 22mph, perhaps some resistance in this specific examples drivetrain?
No. It's probably the terrain. I test my bashers off-road because that's how most people are going to be running them and the additional resistance of that off-road terrain causes them to be slower. I don't really see a point in finding out what the perfect condition ultimate top speed is because that's not what anybody's going to be doing in the real world
Honestly I think that a buggy just isn't really the appropriate vehicle for this size of platform low slung and lightweight is not a great combination when the car is already very small. It's a fun car but I do think the Mojave is the best yet
@@DoRC - the Typhon improves a LOT with granite tires and rear bumper swapped on (for the wheelie bar) I really want to scare up some Grojo shocks to try on it. the "Gryphon" convert seems to make it a much more fun little car (though the shocks are still lacking, bring on the Grojo ebay pulls!)
For a brushed system running on 7.2v I think 19mph not to bad but if you're going to trow in a brushless system you should get more power morespeeds too that's mine first thing on my list 😅😅😮
Yeah I think that the out of the box performance is perfectly adequate for what it is. More power is definitely more fun but there's plenty of fun to be had with the stock system.
Do you happen toknow what size bullet connectors one would need to connect that motor and esc without having to solder directly? Also i hope you putting the granite tyres on the mojave was foreshadowing for a future video 😮
The 10 BL60 doesn't come with bullet connectors and I don't remember what size the bullet connectors are that come on the keenso motor though it might be listed in the Amazon ad. Either way though you're going to end up having to do some soldering if you want to use the 10 BL60
Keep in mind just because I'm doing upgrades it doesn't necessarily mean you must do them. This thing's fun right out of the box. As long as you understand it's limitations which is that it's a small RC car and isn't very fast it is a blast to run
It looks nice! Disappointing to me that it isn’t the same width as the other groms. Sticking to scale is cool and all, but the better handling would probably be worth the slightly weird proportions. My LC racing LC12B1 racing buggy kit arrived yesterday. Got it for $150 on aliexpress, and heard nothing but good things about LC. Have you ever had one?
I had one years ago. LC racing makes very good stuff. A lot of the older cheap Chinese stuff was a direct clone of their products. I'm not disappointed. The Mojave ram actually handles really well especially with stock power. With bigger power of course it's going to get more squirrely but it's kind of hard for the manufacturer to predict what everybody's going to do with them and then build it to that specification so at least in my book as long as it works properly as it comes out of the box then it's a success and this one does work pretty well out of the box
I was looking at those last night wondering why im buying small scale rc again without just getting the LC truggy EMB , everytime 😂because they’re cheap but by time they all set up you’re at same price anyways. Also LC uses bl35 it’s 50 60 bucks the bl 30 was cheap I do run that with 3s sometimes with 14t reflex , it still has the lag the rebranded ones have , and the had bl60 for 35 bucks and another one that was expensive. Forget name of hobby shop but not going beat Ali express prices sometimes I’m afraid to use them prices too cheap .
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw yep! Everybody I’ve asked says “I wish I just got the LC earlier” instead of wasting time on dirt cheapos. Since I love my minis, I had to! I’m planning on trying to squeeze a spektrum 100a in there. Probably end up having to buy something else though!
this is not cheap a set you shoud have used surpass hobby 2445 and 35amp esc and slr300 if you want to use the stock transmitter you could also go with a 2845 but you will need a diffrent pinion after reading a person who did a 3650 motor in a granite a 48dp pinion works fine
Yeah I really don't like using surpass ESCs. That's why I said at the end that I think this is the cheapest setup you could get while still ending up with a good system. Yeah the SLR 300 would work with the stock transmitter but I didn't factor in transmitter cost to my price so I still think this is about as good as you can do while not buying ESCs that like to catch fires :-)
after some research idk why but the Hobbywing Quirun WP-16BL30 is in my country €30 and on aliexpress €19 why didnt you use that esc? idk how expensive it is for you or mjx 45amp esc
@@DoRC 25th but I am not holding my breath. Anything hyped means we get screwed. There has only been a handful of the 4s mojave made it over and virtually none in white.
Unfortunately, at some point, you will have no choice but to convert to brushless (2440 or 2838). Those 380 sealed cans just don't last. I saved some from 2006-2007 era as museum items (from Duratrax Vendetta) and was very surprised that they still make those and even put them in 1/18 today. You can find top-of-the-line 540/550 can with no problem, but for some reason, the smaller 380 stayed the same just as bad for almost 2 decades. So, either buy 1 brushless for total diff destruction or get like 10 sealed 380s ready to burn out as matchsticks.
Yeah that's true You're either going to be replacing the motors or upgrading. That's why I figured I put this video out so people could see the cheapest decent upgrade you can do
The new, metal geared diffs are no longer an issue. I watched a video here on yt last night where the guy did a brushless conversion on a mojave grom and beat TF out of it. No issues. Just a heads up....
@@Wanted1069 Yeah I think if you're going to go big power you still want to get the all metal differentials but the steel internal spider gears and it seems like maybe a material upgrade on the output cups have made the stock ones a lot stronger
@DoRC can you pull one of the diffs and see if they added the metal gears to the Mojave? Last I heard, after the Typhon grom, they were going to be adding tye metal geared diffs to all new models. But I haven't seen anyone crack the Mojaves open yet...
ooops that mamba X2 ESC got in the way. lol little snickers gets people attention. lol. can't wait to see it in action. i will have to agree with the cheap Plugs. buy quality not quantity. i learned my lesson. The cheap ones must be made of monkey plastic. lol.. have fun
I already have the servo mount. Whether or not the ESC ends up on top of it just depends on packaging. The internal cage on the Mojave makes space pretty limited so I'm just going to have to play around with it and figure out where the best place to put things is going to be.
@@dylanwhite6539 Yeah it's pretty straightforward to trim if necessary but I'd like to work around it if possible. I'll just have to wait till I get everything swapped out and start seeing where things fit. Should be fun :-)
Unfortunately no. You can use an SR315 receiver with the stock remote from what I've heard though. I haven't actually tried it myself. That being said the SR315 receiver is pretty expensive if you don't already have one and you could get a Dumbo RC transmitter and receiver or several other setups for very similar money to just buying the single SR315
I always try to detail the parts that I use in the videos. I don't generally do links to them because links are always changing and I also don't want people to think I'm trying to sell them anything.
I go over what you need at the end of the video. Whether or not the stock drive train can handle 3S will probably depend on how you're driving. If you're careful probably. If you're not careful almost certainly not.
Hey, Is the 10BL60 esc for 1/10? That’s what I’m seeing on their website and it doesn’t look the same. Do you know where I can get the same ESC as yours? Thanks in advance!
Technically it is and it probably doesn't look the same because I removed the fan from mine but it is the same ESC. I'm not sure if I'd really want to put it in a 1/10 scale vehicle cuz it's pretty small but it's great for these little cars.
@@DoRC yes please do, i was going to buy the metal CVD ones for the granite and typhon but realized its not the same part # so now its just sitting broken :(
@@DoRC typhon grom- ARA311178 mojave grom - ARA311229 :( they pretty much look the same, but im sure theres a small differnce in length or sometghing like that
@@DoRCthat was the reason I asked I have the motor for the losi minis and didn’t know if they would fit but I’m thinking about getting a few Arrma minis and racing them I’ll probably just water break in the motor though
@DoRC ok cool. One problem I had with the granite were the batteries I ordered for the conversion. I neglected to look at the batteries size so I have these little longer 3s that I'm not using. Buuuut maybe I will now
They already sale Mojave Grom kits/rollers? Interesting! 🤔Thought that was RTR. The word build is so overused in most hobbies. Like it was 95% already built guy's. 😜
Gotcha. Whereas for some people that would be an easy mod it's not something I think I would recommend to most people out there. There is quite a bit of inherent danger to cutting open a hard case and I feel like that's one of those things where if you don't kind of inherently know how to do it I don't think I want to be the person recommending it.
I once had a plastic hex put on me by a plastic witch, she also plastic hexed all my plastic cows, and their plastic milk dried up. So the other plastic townspeople and the plastic reverend of St. Plastico Savior Church ducked the plastic witch in the plastic lake. She floated, so she was definitely a witch. The problem with those second generation Spektrum batteries is no balance lead. I know Horizon wants you to also own their Spektrum smart charger, but jusging by online reviews, the sub-$200 Spektrum chargers don't last very long. I'm in the market for some quality lipos, but I'm gonna go with CNHL now that i saw Horizon removed the balance lead, because I'd pay more for Spektrum batteries if they're good, but I'm not also buying a new charger that only charges their batteries. They really shot their own foot by removing the balance lead. It probably saves them 7 cents per unit, but they lost my purchase.
I ordered at 9am the day it was announced. Literally as soon as I got the text from them I stopped and ordered. Mine shipped Tuesday and arrived yesterday. My Amazon brushless combo is supposed to be here today. After driving it I'm not upset anymore. I actually ordered another one to leave stock for the wife and kids. It's worth the wait.
I buy pretty much every new vehicle that comes out for the channel but if it weren't for that probably not. The fire team is cool but it's not really my cup of tea
@@DoRC put an 03 fpv system in it and get some goggles to match driving an rc SXS at 60mph while being inside could possibly change your 🧠 that’s what catches my eye with this another interior that the head can be replaced with a camera 👽. Out of all the fpv trucks I’ve built the Losi sbr 2.0 is the most realistic feeling.
Slipping sliding ACTUALLY having to control throttle and braking? It's called driving, lol 😆 come on man, that's what you want. At least me. It's pretty boring not having to put effort into the driving part of it. MORE POWER 🔋 💪🏽 LETS GET THERE!!
I completely agree but I have been bashing just about every day for the last 20 years and have owned a couple of hundred vehicles in that time so I have some skill and this is difficult for me to control under heavy throttle. I'm not saying it's a bad thing I'm just saying that the wheels and tires feel like they're getting overwhelmed.
Your videos have zero fat in them, just want to call attention to your tight editing 👍🏼 great channel.
I'm glad you appreciate it It takes a long time to do :-)
@@DoRC oh I’m sure!!
@@GeddyRC :)
Yea I agree. Very easy to watch.
@@caseyedds2032 :)
This is quickly becoming my favorite RC channel. I’d really like to see a video about basher tuning! I know most people say “it’s a basher, who cares” but things like shock oil and shock springs make a MASSIVE difference for landings and big bashing.
If your shocks are using thin fluid they aren’t absorbing as much shock as they could be, causing extra wear and damage. if the fluid is too thick it won’t be active enough for small bumps and may even bounce more on landings
Absolutely but I will admit that I am certainly not the best at vehicle tuning. I run so many different cars that I've become very tolerant to imperfect setups. I do try to get them at least reasonably close but there are definitely racers and stuff out there that are way better than I am.
@@DoRC it’s more of a personal feel thing for bashers since there’s nothing on the line. I for one almost always change out stock shock oils for bashers. They’re often way too thin which leads to chassis slap and underutilized suspension. Gotta think of it as a Goldilocks situation. Going too fair in either direction can be detrimental
Your channel is my favorite rc channel. You deserve hundreds of thousands of subs!!!
Awesome man Glad you enjoy!
I agree 👍
@Hungrybird474 :)
There's gonna be some interesting brushless combos with this car due to the extra size, if i wasn't tight on cash I'd definitely buy one
Yeah the body cage does limit things a little bit but that's pretty easy to trim
There is actually soooo much room for 1/18. For $5 you can get an esc mount, use the stock servo and not have to leave that giant receiver in there And you can use stock fan. Then you have about 2 inches of free space between motor and esc.
Looks pretty good to me. I think they also should do a RTR brushless version.
I would have to imagine an EXB is coming at some point though I have no idea when.
Dude knows his stuff! 10BL60 is a gem that no one talks about for 1/12-1/18 scale. It has 60a running and a 320a peak (or something RIDICULOUS like that). Whereas, that Mamba Micro X2 everyone keeps talking about is only 40a running, 80a peak.
10BL60 also has a smaller footprint than the Micro X2. It’s a bit taller but that’s because it comes w/ a fan whereas the Micro X2 does not.
I ran the Micro X2 w/ the 8k KV motor and the motor shaft blew up in my Mini B. Now, I run a 10BL60 w/ a 2848SL 4k KV. It’s WAY faster and worlds more reliable and runs a lot cooler.
Interesting. I've found that the X2 is a little more powerful than the 10 BL60 but I've never done any actual scientific testing on it so can't guarantee that
@@DoRC Hmm.. I didn’t notice the Micro X2 having more power, but I didn’t run the 2848SL on it. I noticed it got hotter than the 10BL60, much faster. It would also cut out randomly and come back on if you pushed or picked up the car. My hobby shop actually let me return the Micro X2.
Haven’t had any of those issues w/ the Hobbywing setup and it’s definitely much faster. The 2848SL is crazy lol
@FilthUD That's strange. It almost sounds like that X2 was defective because in my experience the X2 ESCs have lots of jam and run pretty cool even without a fan on these cars especially
I love your content and how informative you are. For us newer guys in the hobby it really helps. Can’t wait to see your channel grow. You honestly deserve so much more subs, my friend!! 👏🏼🤘🏼
I'm glad you enjoy!
I was really surprised with how flat and level mine jumped off my little ramp. I expected it to nose dive bad. It's a good little truck. The leaning and skidding around was a pleasant surprise. Waiting on the truck to drop off my brushless stuff right now.
Yeah it definitely handles better than I expected it to.
Check out the HBX 3100A SCT! Hobbywing brushless system, 35mph on 3s, live rear axle/trailing arm suspension, metal gears and about $130 USD! Not many people seem to have reviewed it but worth a look! 👍
I will take a look!
Castle: Why did you put that cheap system
Do Rc: Cheap, if I decide not to use Castle
Castle: Wait, we can talk...
Oh we'll be talking to them very soon :-)
Just came home with a slightly used Kagama and i can't be more thankful for your videos on the Kag! This one was great also, I was no fan of the big brands, but i like the smaller cars too. The chinese ones just seem to cut corners left and right. These groms are looking so nice
These cars definitely are a step above most other small cars in terms of quality
Ultimate brushless upgrade would be awesome! I’d love to see it. Love your work.
Stay tuned :-)
Mine just got to me yesterday. Still in the box can’t wait to open it. Go as extreme as you want. I’ll watch!
I think you're going to like it!
Stop waiting open that thang and have fun😎
@@lilsmurfdawg :)
@@QuinnsRC what the hell are you waiting for? blast that thing
Need time to set up the camera!
One of the most...if not the most technical RC Ytber! Go to level content
That's my goal glad you enjoy!
I want to see the ultimate Mojave grom on 3s, bigger wheels and metal diffs so bad😭😭😭
Stay tuned :-)
@johanneswicklein4975 wheels might be a problem, though. With THAT body, and all of that awesome suspension travel, the stock tires already sometimes rub against the body. It'll only get worse with bigger tires...
I got one from my local hobby shop because my pre order was taking forever( it came in yesterday) love it keeping both 😬 and I’m here for as many videos you feel like making on this Mojave grom platform. But hit it with 3s I just seen a video yesterday dude got 57mph. So make as many Mojave grom videos as you’d like😎
Yeah I'm sure they will be people going really fast with these. That's not really my goal as I'm primarily an off-road basher so no matter what I do I'll probably not be hitting 57 miles an hour :-)
Definitely the best Grom so far!
I think so
I just got mine and put a hobbywing quickrun 2435 motor in it with a mjx hyper go 45a brushless Esc. Also pretty cheap and works really well!
Awesome video!
Sounds like a good combination!
Was waiting for your video on a brushless Mojave grom! I was wondering - did you notice the ability to air control the grom on 2s? Brushed has no air control where even the typhon had some so I’m curious - great video as always!
No unfortunately the air control really didn't get much better. Obviously it's a little bit better because of the increased wheel speed but the small tires coupled with the high mass of the car means you're just not going to get much air control. Of course they'll definitely be some air control in the next video :-)
@@DoRC makes sense! Excited to see it based off the Easter egg ;) 🏰
Probably my favorite of the Grom line!
I think it might be mine too.
I'd be really interested to see if you can safely get an IC2 onto that or another brushless ESC. Big benefit to this platform is the USB-C charger and battery, gives it immediate portability.
Would also be interested in seeing if there are any decent brushed motor options in order to keep the rest stock. This was great, as usual, cheers.
I don't see any reason why you can't. What I did in the video works just fine it's just kind of unsafe.
As far as brushed options I honestly don't think that's worth even trying to pursue. If you're going to spend money just go brushless.
I do have that brushed combo I yanked out of the Gorgon in a box somewhere. It's already a combo esc/ receiver unit also. Surely there isn't room to mount that motor though.... hang on, I gotta go rummage through some parts.
@@boduke9428 no that motor won't fit
I saw a video on here of someone putting a Traxxas 380 motor and getting 4-5 extra mph. It seemed like it dropped right in. I think it is TRA7075, but not sure offhand.
@jrmbtr nice!
3S? Bigger tires? Hell YESS!! If you decide to make it wider, I won't argue against that either......
You're in luck. Check my latest video :-)
@@DoRC literally found it 45 seconds after I posted the comment...
Great video, by far my favourite grom so far, might even buy this one 😀😉👍🏻
I think it's my favorite too. It's definitely heavy but that extra mass really helps and it seems to get over terrain really well
Or 2 😂
😂😂 love that lil castle plug, got a x2 and a 1010 4400 kv in my mini 8ight, 4s is exactly what you would expect in vehicle's of that size.
That sounds pretty wild
As someone with a 16bl30 in a granite grom I’m not convinced it would handle 3s. It does get quite toasty on 2s. That being said I’ve only ever ran it on 2s with a variety of motors for several years and it’s still ticking.
Yeah I'm not sure the 16 BL30 would be good on 3S. That's why I recommend the 10 BL60. It's a little bit more expensive but has a lot more headroom
Awesome job brother and can’t wait to see on 3s keep up the great content
Stay tuned it'll be soon :-)
Looks good! I was able to find a red one at my LHS. Amazing looking truck 😀
Sweet!
They have a plate to replace the 2 in 1. Makes it way easier to mount your receiver and or esc.
Yes I have them. The purpose of this upgrade was to do it as inexpensively as possible and omitting that part reduces the bill of materials :-)
Thanks for the video! This is great and yes we would love to see just how wiild you can take the Majove. Just be wwarned, I have gone through 4 of the cheap brushless systems off amazon. They go up in smoke if the wind blows wrong. LOL I ended up putting the Hobbywing 60am in the Majave last night and I have the Castle micro in my Typhon. I should have just saved money and bought these from the start. Lessons learned on my end.
Absolutely. The cheap Amazon motors are fine but the ESCs are junk. That's why I put a 10 BL60 in this one. Check out my next video in the list as I've already released the wild upgrade :-)
Always great videos 👍👍
Thanks Glad you enjoyed!
Nice video that little fella looks like a blast!!
Yeah it's pretty fun!
Yeah, you’ll definitely need to upgrade those diffs and the plastic drive components. The extra weight on a grippy track equals broken diff and dogbone. Horizon Hobby did warranty the components, so that was cool.
Haven't had any failures yet but I have on other groms.
@@DoRC I’ll admit, I was really giving it the beans. The track is setup for 1/10. So some of the jumps require a little more juice.
@@Papa_Shorty brushless?
@@DoRC Nope. Box stock. I was racing with a couple other Mojave Groms, nothing happened to theirs. I’m convinced it was a fluke.
@Papa_Shorty Yeah that kind of thing can happen. Especially with the differential upgrade that they did the stock vehicles are pretty stout.
Cool keep it coming!
Will do :-)
Will this budget upgrade work with the Typhon Grom? Great video!
Yes it'll work great.
I like look and size for stadium but too heavy it seems… granite grom was heavy… typhon good balance… maybe monster version of stadium be good
Stay tuned :-)
I am anxiously awaiting these guys. But don't look at your Horizon account on these. It will be the highest of highs when your preorder says avail and they hit your card. Then you wait for tracking and it says backorder. Lowest of lows.
Yeah their shipping is all over the place.
Great rc for what it is, and good video as always!
Yeah it's pretty fun and definitely feels like it's on top of the Grom pile right now. Might just be because it's new though
You have to make an over kill Mojave like you did with the typhon!! Looking forward to that video!
Stay tuned :-)
@@DoRC just order some Amass EC5 connectors for my new cobra esc coming Monday!!
I’m really looking forward to the big rock grom. That should be able to handle some real power.
Is one coming? I haven't heard anything about that one
@@DoRC there’s no rumors about it but I refuse to believe they’re not working on one. Seems like the next logical setup. Could even be their first blx grom, but I’ll just be happy if they do any version of it because the 3s big rock was my favorite 1/10 scale until I blew my 5th slipper and then the driveshafts started to go out.
@@DoRC now that I think about it, I’d like to see a big rock 4s too. That would basically be the perfect arrma imo. I thought about the k4, but it’s kinda too similar to my erevo. The thing that makes a big rock so awesome is the tires. The narrow width closer to a SCT tire but retains the thick sidewalls of a MT tire. You don’t really see that style from other brands very much
@dylanwhite6539 Yeah we'll see. Not sure they will do one since they already have a monster truck but I'm going to be doing something kind of similar in the next video so stay tuned :-)
Great video as usual! Should have mine out by end of week. Idk how you guys make videos sooo fast. I'm getting better though! Thank you for the info! 😊
Once you've done a few hundred of them you'll get faster :-)
Should link the brushless stuff in the description
I don't like doing links for two reasons. The first one is they're always changing so they end up becoming invalid and the other one is I don't want you to think I'm trying to sell you anything because I'm not :-)
I get it makes sense
Great content as always, really like your channel, If you keep it up it will definately grow!
I have my own preorder on this (Europe) so I've watched a lot of videos on the Mojave Grom, what I found odd was you getting 19mph out of it stock when pretty much all other reviews on this car seems to get 22mph, perhaps some resistance in this specific examples drivetrain?
No. It's probably the terrain. I test my bashers off-road because that's how most people are going to be running them and the additional resistance of that off-road terrain causes them to be slower. I don't really see a point in finding out what the perfect condition ultimate top speed is because that's not what anybody's going to be doing in the real world
@@DoRC Fair enough!
Agreed on the favorite grom yet. The Granite was amaze also.. i dont get how they made the typhon grom so lackluster, the suspension is awful on it.
Honestly I think that a buggy just isn't really the appropriate vehicle for this size of platform low slung and lightweight is not a great combination when the car is already very small. It's a fun car but I do think the Mojave is the best yet
@@DoRC - the Typhon improves a LOT with granite tires and rear bumper swapped on (for the wheelie bar)
I really want to scare up some Grojo shocks to try on it.
the "Gryphon" convert seems to make it a much more fun little car (though the shocks are still lacking, bring
on the Grojo ebay pulls!)
@@hooptiej Yeah I did a monster typhen build and I was pretty happy with it
For a brushed system running on 7.2v I think 19mph not to bad but if you're going to trow in a brushless system you should get more power morespeeds too that's mine first thing on my list 😅😅😮
Yeah I think that the out of the box performance is perfectly adequate for what it is. More power is definitely more fun but there's plenty of fun to be had with the stock system.
Wonder if they’ll do an EXB GROM line of these.
It would seem like a missed opportunity if they didn't but who knows.
Do you happen toknow what size bullet connectors one would need to connect that motor and esc without having to solder directly?
Also i hope you putting the granite tyres on the mojave was foreshadowing for a future video 😮
The 10 BL60 doesn't come with bullet connectors and I don't remember what size the bullet connectors are that come on the keenso motor though it might be listed in the Amazon ad. Either way though you're going to end up having to do some soldering if you want to use the 10 BL60
Upgrades, upgrades, upgrades...
I'm not convinced about the Grom platform.!!
Keep in mind just because I'm doing upgrades it doesn't necessarily mean you must do them. This thing's fun right out of the box. As long as you understand it's limitations which is that it's a small RC car and isn't very fast it is a blast to run
It looks nice! Disappointing to me that it isn’t the same width as the other groms. Sticking to scale is cool and all, but the better handling would probably be worth the slightly weird proportions.
My LC racing LC12B1 racing buggy kit arrived yesterday. Got it for $150 on aliexpress, and heard nothing but good things about LC. Have you ever had one?
I had one years ago. LC racing makes very good stuff. A lot of the older cheap Chinese stuff was a direct clone of their products.
I'm not disappointed. The Mojave ram actually handles really well especially with stock power. With bigger power of course it's going to get more squirrely but it's kind of hard for the manufacturer to predict what everybody's going to do with them and then build it to that specification so at least in my book as long as it works properly as it comes out of the box then it's a success and this one does work pretty well out of the box
I was looking at those last night wondering why im buying small scale rc again without just getting the LC truggy EMB , everytime 😂because they’re cheap but by time they all set up you’re at same price anyways. Also LC uses bl35 it’s 50 60 bucks the bl 30 was cheap I do run that with 3s sometimes with 14t reflex , it still has the lag the rebranded ones have , and the had bl60 for 35 bucks and another one that was expensive. Forget name of hobby shop but not going beat Ali express prices sometimes I’m afraid to use them prices too cheap .
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw yep! Everybody I’ve asked says “I wish I just got the LC earlier” instead of wasting time on dirt cheapos. Since I love my minis, I had to!
I’m planning on trying to squeeze a spektrum 100a in there. Probably end up having to buy something else though!
this is not cheap a set
you shoud have used
surpass hobby 2445 and 35amp esc
and slr300 if you want to use the stock transmitter
you could also go with a 2845 but you will need a diffrent pinion after reading a person who did a 3650 motor in a granite a 48dp pinion works fine
Yeah I really don't like using surpass ESCs. That's why I said at the end that I think this is the cheapest setup you could get while still ending up with a good system. Yeah the SLR 300 would work with the stock transmitter but I didn't factor in transmitter cost to my price so I still think this is about as good as you can do while not buying ESCs that like to catch fires :-)
after some research idk why but the Hobbywing Quirun WP-16BL30
is in my country €30 and on aliexpress €19 why didnt you use that esc? idk how expensive it is for you
or mjx 45amp esc
We need a video on 3S
Stay tuned :-)
I want to see 3s on the budget, brushless
Stay tuned
Can’t wait to see them in the uk.
When is that supposed to happen?
@@DoRC 25th but I am not holding my breath. Anything hyped means we get screwed. There has only been a handful of the 4s mojave made it over and virtually none in white.
@@wasa7 That sucks.
Unfortunately, at some point, you will have no choice but to convert to brushless (2440 or 2838). Those 380 sealed cans just don't last. I saved some from 2006-2007 era as museum items (from Duratrax Vendetta) and was very surprised that they still make those and even put them in 1/18 today. You can find top-of-the-line 540/550 can with no problem, but for some reason, the smaller 380 stayed the same just as bad for almost 2 decades. So, either buy 1 brushless for total diff destruction or get like 10 sealed 380s ready to burn out as matchsticks.
Yeah that's true You're either going to be replacing the motors or upgrading. That's why I figured I put this video out so people could see the cheapest decent upgrade you can do
The new, metal geared diffs are no longer an issue.
I watched a video here on yt last night where the guy did a brushless conversion on a mojave grom and beat TF out of it.
No issues.
Just a heads up....
@@Wanted1069 Yeah I think if you're going to go big power you still want to get the all metal differentials but the steel internal spider gears and it seems like maybe a material upgrade on the output cups have made the stock ones a lot stronger
@DoRC can you pull one of the diffs and see if they added the metal gears to the Mojave?
Last I heard, after the Typhon grom, they were going to be adding tye metal geared diffs to all new models.
But I haven't seen anyone crack the Mojaves open yet...
@@Wanted1069 I did that in this video :-)
Just out of curiosity I know it’s only for Aesthetics but are those heads easily removable?
I don't have mine anymore but if you look in the exploded view diagram you should be able to see if they are separate parts or not
awesome little mojave 💪🤙🤙😀
For sure!
Moa Powa!!😂
It's coming :-)
Will those tires fit without going to the longer arms? Truck flips over more than I would like.
thanks
I think they fit fine but you're still going to have to trim the body
ooops that mamba X2 ESC got in the way. lol little snickers gets people attention. lol. can't wait to see it in action. i will have to agree with the cheap Plugs. buy quality not quantity. i learned my lesson. The cheap ones must be made of monkey plastic. lol.. have fun
You're in luck check my latest video :-)
Are you not planning on getting the servo mount for the next build and putting the esc on top?
I already have the servo mount. Whether or not the ESC ends up on top of it just depends on packaging. The internal cage on the Mojave makes space pretty limited so I'm just going to have to play around with it and figure out where the best place to put things is going to be.
@@DoRC ah that makes sense. I didn’t think about the vertical limitation
@@dylanwhite6539 Yeah it's pretty straightforward to trim if necessary but I'd like to work around it if possible. I'll just have to wait till I get everything swapped out and start seeing where things fit. Should be fun :-)
AWESOME VIDEO MAN
ANY LINKS OF THOSE YOU USED?
You can get the motor on Amazon by looking up keenso 3800kv and the 10 BL60 ESC is available from a bunch of different places
@@DoRC plug and play brushless on this rig?
I dont own a arrma but this is very tempting 🤔
Do it!
@@DoRC soon as my lhs has one done deal
can you use that flysky receiver with the spektrum stock remote?
Unfortunately no. You can use an SR315 receiver with the stock remote from what I've heard though. I haven't actually tried it myself. That being said the SR315 receiver is pretty expensive if you don't already have one and you could get a Dumbo RC transmitter and receiver or several other setups for very similar money to just buying the single SR315
Love it
It's a fun little truck.
Just got mine today at mi local hobby shop 🤪🤪
Nice!
Please buy and review the new Stampede 2WD
Yeah I thought about doing that but I might have already missed the boat on that one
Why no list of the parts for the upgrades?
I always try to detail the parts that I use in the videos. I don't generally do links to them because links are always changing and I also don't want people to think I'm trying to sell them anything.
My only question is what 10 series motor did you buy because I have one of the systems coming and I’m looking to make this thing insane
I have a couple different options I haven't decided which one I'm going to put in yet. Stay tuned though as all will be answered in the next video!
@@DoRC cool cool
I have the 1010 5600 KV actually just came in a few minutes ago
@@wadesims2000 That's a definite possibility. Did you see my Typhon grom video? There will be some chassis modification that'll need to be done
@@DoRC yeah I used that video to guide me on doing it to a granite. that thing is not a good candidate for that much speed
Arrma top😎🔥
This is definitely a good one!
I just got the typhoon grom and it’s awesome and now I want this… god damn it I’m gonna be bankrupt
Well at least these are about the cheapest RCs you can buy
Do you have links for the parts you used? Can the stock drivetrain handle 3s?
I go over what you need at the end of the video. Whether or not the stock drive train can handle 3S will probably depend on how you're driving. If you're careful probably. If you're not careful almost certainly not.
@@DoRC yah couldn’t find the motor. What kind was it again?
3s runs needed! :p
Stay tuned :-)
There's no antenna on the Mojave grom 😮😅😅
That's true. Did the other two in one ESCs have them?
@@DoRC no the typhon grom don't have one eather antenna.....wander how arrma did that 🤔
@@richardbrown6762there are tons of receivers without antennae.
What is the size difference to standard 1:10 onroad rims. Do they fit on the mojave?
I'm not sure. I don't have any 110 scale on road cars at the moment but I'm pretty sure the tires would be a fair amount bigger
Hey,
Is the 10BL60 esc for 1/10? That’s what I’m seeing on their website and it doesn’t look the same. Do you know where I can get the same ESC as yours? Thanks in advance!
Technically it is and it probably doesn't look the same because I removed the fan from mine but it is the same ESC. I'm not sure if I'd really want to put it in a 1/10 scale vehicle cuz it's pretty small but it's great for these little cars.
broke mine on the first run, shredded hub, stock electronics. no replacments because it uses different parts from other two groms... thanks arrma
The hub and electronics should be the same. The only differences in those areas should be the arms and axle shafts
@@DoRC unfortunately hubs are differnet, when looking at the exploded view its a different part # from the other groms
@TooBaked hmm. I'll have to take a look at that.
@@DoRC yes please do, i was going to buy the metal CVD ones for the granite and typhon but realized its not the same part # so now its just sitting broken :(
@@DoRC typhon grom- ARA311178
mojave grom - ARA311229 :( they pretty much look the same, but im sure theres a small differnce in length or sometghing like that
You can put a 20t pinion gear on your Mojave grom and get 25mph with the stock motor 😮😮😁👍
Yeah I'm sure on straight level pavement you can but how long is the motor going to last? This is 27 mph all day long.
@@DoRC until the battery runs down it will do 25 mph all day long 😁👍
Can you but a losi mini next to it or at least compare the motors
I don't have one but I have looked at the brushless motor setup for the mini and it appears quite a bit smaller.
@@DoRCthat was the reason I asked I have the motor for the losi minis and didn’t know if they would fit but I’m thinking about getting a few Arrma minis and racing them I’ll probably just water break in the motor though
@jat08202010 Yeah at least in my research it looked too small to be viable.
What RX is that?
Yeeess more power change the tires though
Stay tuned :-)
Is the battery tray at all longer than the granite grom
Yes it's probably about an inch longer
@DoRC ok cool. One problem I had with the granite were the batteries I ordered for the conversion. I neglected to look at the batteries size so I have these little longer 3s that I'm not using. Buuuut maybe I will now
@@nickteele169 Yeah there's definitely more room in the tray so hopefully they'll fit.
mind if i ask what allen key drivers you are using
MIP.
@@DoRC thank you sir
@@JeffreyNatale-c1c You're welcome :-)
Is that 48p gearing
Mod 0.5
They already sale Mojave Grom kits/rollers? Interesting! 🤔Thought that was RTR. The word build is so overused in most hobbies. Like it was 95% already built guy's. 😜
No this was a RTR that I made into a brushless
Sucks you can’t use that 2 in one as a receiver
Yeah it would have been nice if they had added an ESC channel to the unit.
I added a balance lead to my included 1400 g2 battery. Easy mod
How did you do that?
Added a IC3 to it as well
@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe Yeah upgrading to an IC3 would be easy but you have to pull the pack apart to solder directly on the cells to add balancing to it
@@DoRC yeah that’s exactly what I did. I post all my RC stuff on my Reddit page, same username
Gotcha. Whereas for some people that would be an easy mod it's not something I think I would recommend to most people out there. There is quite a bit of inherent danger to cutting open a hard case and I feel like that's one of those things where if you don't kind of inherently know how to do it I don't think I want to be the person recommending it.
I once had a plastic hex put on me by a plastic witch, she also plastic hexed all my plastic cows, and their plastic milk dried up.
So the other plastic townspeople and the plastic reverend of St. Plastico Savior Church ducked the plastic witch in the plastic lake. She floated, so she was definitely a witch.
The problem with those second generation Spektrum batteries is no balance lead. I know Horizon wants you to also own their Spektrum smart charger, but jusging by online reviews, the sub-$200 Spektrum chargers don't last very long.
I'm in the market for some quality lipos, but I'm gonna go with CNHL now that i saw Horizon removed the balance lead, because I'd pay more for Spektrum batteries if they're good, but I'm not also buying a new charger that only charges their batteries. They really shot their own foot by removing the balance lead. It probably saves them 7 cents per unit, but they lost my purchase.
Pretty sure she turned me into a newt.
What size motor is that?
It's a 2838
@@DoRC what’s the highest kv motor I can have for off road 2s and 3s on hobbywing 60amp esc?
Is it brushless?? I thought is was brushed 🤔
Did you watch the video?
Can you spell that BL motor here pls?
Keenso
Looks way slower on camera
They usually do especially the little ones
Mine tracks so straight at wot
Yeah these handle surprisingly well.
Man I’m so upset with horizon hobby I will never preorder again. It was suppose to be here yesterday and now not till Tuesday
Trust me man I get it. I pre-ordered mine about 5 minutes after it was released and got it almost a week after some other people did
Mine came 3 days early......it's worth the wait!!
@dustinhughes168 Yeah it seems pretty random when you'll get stuff from them
I am in the same boat and now its fedex it was supposed to come today but its still sitting
I ordered at 9am the day it was announced. Literally as soon as I got the text from them I stopped and ordered. Mine shipped Tuesday and arrived yesterday. My Amazon brushless combo is supposed to be here today. After driving it I'm not upset anymore. I actually ordered another one to leave stock for the wife and kids. It's worth the wait.
That’s the way it should of been, 19 mph just doesn’t cut it, even to a newbie.
Yes and no. The top speed increase is nice but at least with these tires even that amount of power becomes hard to put down to the ground
It's more like 21mph which is completely fine imo. Not everything should be a missile.
What if they make a fireteam grom would you buy one?
I buy pretty much every new vehicle that comes out for the channel but if it weren't for that probably not. The fire team is cool but it's not really my cup of tea
@@DoRC put an 03 fpv system in it and get some goggles to match driving an rc SXS at 60mph while being inside could possibly change your 🧠 that’s what catches my eye with this another interior that the head can be replaced with a camera 👽. Out of all the fpv trucks I’ve built the Losi sbr 2.0 is the most realistic feeling.
@@DoRC Subbed… What’s the most durable rc 10th basher in your opinion like send it off crazy stuff basher.
Slipping sliding ACTUALLY having to control throttle and braking? It's called driving, lol 😆 come on man, that's what you want. At least me. It's pretty boring not having to put effort into the driving part of it. MORE POWER 🔋 💪🏽 LETS GET THERE!!
I completely agree but I have been bashing just about every day for the last 20 years and have owned a couple of hundred vehicles in that time so I have some skill and this is difficult for me to control under heavy throttle. I'm not saying it's a bad thing I'm just saying that the wheels and tires feel like they're getting overwhelmed.
Those can be upgraded to. Thanks for the vids. Super informative!!!
@@ellc.6143 absolutely they can I was just reviewing the car as it came in this video. Next video those tires are coming off :-)