MDF Doors made the best way
Вставка
- Опубліковано 28 тра 2023
- MDF doors are super popular now we use MDF for so many applications in a building project
In this video I show you how I tackle making 17 MDF doors that are all the same and how much money they cost to have made and also how much I charge to fit them
Cutwrights for MDF doors (tell them I sent you!!)
geni.us/qVfLVg
Like the Video? Maybe buy me a coffee!!
click the link here geni.us/vn0mp
For my 76mm and 102mm hinge jigs click here geni.us/fvGT
My Amazon store for all kinds of goodies (PAID LINK)
CLICK HERE geni.us/LgI3n6
Music by www.bensound.com - Навчання та стиль
![Painting MDF Doors [video 407]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZIwNJGlVtwc/mqdefault.jpg)
Really enjoyed this video for number of reasons 😊
1 -information
2- showing costs
3- Ed standing in the vaulted room almost touching the collar ties ( this really highlighted the height difference between the two of you )
- Ed bumping his head & yous left it in 😂
4- nice & chilled
Great work men 👍🏽👍🏽
Extremely good idea Robin saves so much time, thanks for sharing
Another great video Rob. Thanks.
You the man Ed!
Great video Guys !! Thanks
Hi Robin, love your work and videos. I thought I knew a lot after 30 years of working in the uk in the building kitchen industry. But since watching you I have learnt so much more.
Keep it up.
Well done lads, love your work!
Congratulation on reaching 100k. Thanks for showing the actual costs too as 'others' are often reluctant to.
Very useful video, I totally agree with the off-site fabrication to increase consistency and finish as well as it being time-saving for you. That seemed like a decent price too for all the prep work they had to do.
Hi Robin, congrats on the massive channel growth!! As a DIYer it's so easy to get into the mindset that the most cost effective way is always to make everything from scratch but videos like this are a great reminder to value our time, even if we don't have to charge labour like a pro!
So true Joel! Thanks for watching
100% agree I am in the same boat
@@ukconstruction the contractor said to the client, the estimate is £1000. Phew said the client £1000. The contractor replied, if i was god and said to you, you can have a million pound now but die in 5 years, or no money and live in good health to 90 yrs old. What would you choose?
Well the time of course was the clients reply.
The contractor said, thats because the time is more important to you than the money, and so is mine! Its £1000.
Well done Robin on reaching your 100k target. Fantastic. I’m also a conscientious & fussy builder/joiner, having an ethical approach to work is a must, Unfortunately becoming rather rare in this Day & Age. Congratulations
class work. last time i was on a loft conversion i remember how long it took to mess on and make doors for the cupboards. i used those daft cranked flush hinges also.
recently ive had a company a friend of mine runs make simple cabinets for electric meters on hmo's ive worked on. super easy compared to trying to make it all myself. id go the same route for this type of thing also. spreading the workload seems to work very well for all
Great work as always Robin, and makes sense. Maybe a video on how you go about filling out cut list?! 👍🏻
just subbed 3 weeks ago im a bricky of 22 year and i just love how good of a hand you are not many joiners will tie your shoe laces robin mate that's for sure
Work smarter, not harder. I'm just about to DIY convert my hipped roof loft space in my detached bungalow and your videos have taught me what not to do. Cheers Robin
Totally get this. Not a hope could you compete with price and quality. I use a kitchen manufactured and its the same. Beautiful pre painted doors pre drilled for hinges and pre drilled hinge plates on carcasses. Drawer fronts pilot holes marked so you can click onto drawer runners. Simple and time saver 👍. Good video robin 👌🇮🇪
Really helpful. I do like the outsourcing idea, as not only can you free your time up for more necessary areas, but that quality of finish, and the peace of mind from that is priceless. It makes you look much better to the client.
You just need to either be clever enough to realise this yourself, or, wise enough to watch this channel to be taught.
Said it many times already, but I get so much from the channel. Here being another gleaming example.
Ps. Looking forward to watching eds vid on the mafell.
You are super kind Jon to verbalise your opinion on my channel and I appreciate it!!
😄😄😄mind your head kid when you stand up.
Keep up the good work guys
Great video thanks. Hilarious when Ed swaps places and you stand under the eaves, suddenly the height difference is magnified as he's nearer the camera too.
Another great video and congratulations on reaching 100k!✊️
Cheers Martin!
😳...😩...😮💨
That was Ed's back & nut, when they found out today's designation was to be a shift in the eaves🪦
Thank you (as always for the content)! Def the way to go👍🏽
Hi Robin and Ed. I make my eaves doors the same. Except I plaster the reveals of the opening and don’t use linings. This means I don’t need architraves. But the downside is the doors are all slightly different as you are at the mercy of the plasterer and how thick he puts the plaster on and how accurate he is with his beads. But I do like the idea of all the same sizes and having a “system” 👍👍
Another great video guys. Huge congratulations on reaching the landmark 100 thousand subscribers… 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you Allan
Ed, you forgot helmet to avoid ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️going around😂
This is the first of your videos I've seen, I really like it. I'll be watching more, good quality video and content. Thank you :)
Thanks Pete
You couldn't make those doors for that price, amazing nice job
Quality job mate as ever. I made a small set of mdf door for my living room alcove cupboard and used the kitchen hinges with great success, no visible hinges and nice shut lines. Neater and easier to fit I thought than conventional hinges. That was about 20 years ago and the still look good. All the best.
i an doing exactly the same job in my lounge at the min... Can i ask how thick are yiur doors and how do you open them if you have no handle?? Do you just pull them at the top??
Interesting video. I've started to do the same with my furniture builds that are mostly Plywood or MDF. I can get them pre-cut for the same price as it costs for me to get a full sheet and cut it myself - and the tolerances are perfect! Real timesaver.
Nice one Robin how’s the garden room coming on be nice to see the pool is it tiled yet cheers
Advertorial as excellent video and very useful information. Thanks. Too late for me to go to Cutright for my similar doors
well not technically an advertorial as I have chose to do this video with no financial benefit or payment
Blimey Ed is a tall lad!
Lives in a greenhouse 😜😜🤣🤣 lovely lad
Yes he used to be a wallpaper hanger😂
Great channel! Are you able to give us the cut-list for the doors and sub-lining?
Congrats, 100k! @9:51, ouch...
Beautiful made video and doors! Great to watch.
I only wish the building structure and work is reliability square and plum to order 17 doors the exact same.
It's the hidden cost of going to cheaper contractors.
Hi instead of face fit doors fit doors flush with lining, it will then take any type of architrave, no door edges to hide 😊
Very true Robin and well explained. Only thing I would say is you are paying Ed too much if he can buy Mafell 😉.
Keep the videos coming 👍🏻
Thanks for the information! Great video. For those that do have more time to do the work and want to save some money, am assuming it’s cheaper to buy the sheets and do it yourself? And tips on how best to cut the sheets?
Nice one guys....... Do need to see more of Ed working in loft spaces and the eaves....... just for shits and giggles, obvs..... 😁
Ouch ...I felt that head bump..
Now then....regarding work flow and making things easier ...Let us put Ed, who is about seven foot tall in the low head space loft...and Robin will be downstairs on a set of steps trying to reach something high up, Ha. Thanks for the price/cost etc....always a joy to watch the videos.
Hard hat area?
Robin, you we mentioned in the Telegraph in an article a few days back !
Yep, I was really pleased with that!!
@@ukconstruction You deserve it.
How do you open the doors?? Do push them to open??
Hi Robin. Still enjoying your vides greatly. Could you remind me of the brand of breather membrane you used in the big build. Cheers. Peter
Hi Robin, what happened to your video about shutters?
How many times a day does Ed smack his head 😂 great video guys
where do you buy the push to open spring loaders from??
Hi robin when are you doing a wooden boat build project.. it would be amazing!! 😊
Hi Dean, I have fantasised over building a proper wooden boat for years!! I will do that in my lifetime but... when!
Glad to see you corrected the imbalance between who stood in the eaves between you and Ed during the course of the video! Also, your music choice is down with the youth!
Really great video Robin, and very helpful. I have the same loft space in my bedroom, I want to replace what I did with your design, will definitely use Cutwrights. One question, I notice the wall between the doors was not plastered, how was it finished?
Hung my first door after watching you earlier door hanging video from a few years ago, your knowledge has helped my out with all manner of timber work.
Ignore that I have just watched it again and I can see how you finished it.
A1👌
Hi Rob. You didn’t mention it but I can only assume. Did you set the 18mm sub linings back 7mm off the main lining so the 22mm door and 15mm arch sit flush?
👍🏻 but hate to see sockets and switches hanging off , get someone to fix them back or an oozy box fitted
👍
Any chance of a video of how to use the cutwrights interface online to do you quote and design? It look pretty complicated but I’m very keen to try it for a project… 👍
Hi Matt, I will try!
Haha, same... I went straight to the Cutwright website as soon as the video finished, and thought "eww, where do I start?!!"
@@adventureawaitsuk3978 I’ve had quite a decent play with the site after a previous video - I think with some effort it would be fine, but there’s lots of terms on there (especially in relation to the different holes and cut outs) that I don’t really understand. It makes it a bit daunting to go all in with a big project. I couldn’t find anything else on youtube or on their website explaining it either. Perhaps it’s worth just starting with something small first…! 😂
Does that door supplier deliver up north east? Those are good prices for pre-cut, priming etc.
I have a factory in Lancashire if anyone wants doors like this.
I don’t understand why anyone uses the edging. You should use premium grade moisture resistant mdf and the edges sand up and clean as glass
Well for us it removes the need to sand every edge and it is so economical and the finish is perfect so it works well in our program
Random comment - you need to get a product called a 'pencil pull pro' trust me it will change your life ... I haven't lost a pencil in two weeks now! and it has taken minutes if not hours off my wasted unproductive time looking for the pencil. Lots of others out there but this one has a thin but strong cord and the cord is long enough to pull out and use over head or at a stretch - not like other ones
Got to admit, my least favourite part of 2nd fix, cutting MDF sheets for doors etc. Rail saws were a game changer but it's still a ball ache!
Agree!!
I hate when customers ask for butt hinges on MDF. You know the screws will be falling out of the material if it’s going to be a heavily used door. Nice job mate, how many times did you bump your head on the ceilings hanging those doors? 😂👍🏻
Out sourcing the doors is also better for your customer- they're paying you for your skill and knowledge which lets be honest isn't best utilised by making 17 identical MDF doors, getting them knocked up in a factory frees you up to do the more complex/important stuff.
🤘😎🤘
I did the same thing in the attic for my boys but I made the sliding doors, 21 in total...
They look great and time saving but now the painter has to deal with maybe taking them all off unless you’re just doing the fronts thanks
The Blum hinges take a second to come off
@@daverowe4566 yes I know so why not finish paint then fit rather than twice was my point thanks
@@lhfloors yes my point was the joiner fits the doors, the painter will come in at a later date to paint them thanks
amazing 😂 thanks
How much gap did you leave all the way round between the liners and edge of mdf doors?? Us it 2mm??
Yes between 2 and 3mm is nice
the only downside ive found with mdf is that on the larger doors they tend to want to start bowing and then they need door straightners fitting in the back and the straightners out there that actualy work arent cheap, ive just made 4 1900mm tall doors 22mm for some sliding wardrobes and they have needed a pair of hafele planofit straightners which has added £50 cost to each door, so i managed to make all 4 doors for under £100 which was great but then had to spend £200 to keep them straight :/ can you recommend a better material for the larger doors? or are the striaghtners the only way to go, thanks for another great vid
Try moisture resistant mdf with 4 hinges on 1900mm door
You can buy these as a unit, online. Mine were plasterboard faced so I just plastered them in. All you see is the outline of the opening. Paint the same colour as the room. Very discreet and easy to install. They supplied a key to open them.
That sounds neat. Do you remember which brand you were buying? I would like to check it out
@@Dufffaaa93 google access panels direct 👍🏼
Hi Robin, love the video as always. Quick question - what gap did you leave between the current floor level and the door for the flooring to be installed? Is there a specific type of flooring already pre-specified going in or assumed for up to say 8mm laminate flooring with maybe 5mm underlay?
Keep the prices coming it let's people know on here complaining what real quality work costs and he didn't mention price of the arc or the frame so I'd say 200 all in per set 🍺
Will do Tom
The disadvantage Ed of being tall and working in a low space!
Looks a great service.
Did the company also supply the matching casings?
I'd like to have some 2400mm tall door made for a wardrobe on a self build.
I made my own last time and had them sprayed and the sprayer hated trying to seal the fibres of the routed edges.
As much as I agree with outsourcing - if budget allows, I'm not sure sure about all the reasons one might do this.
Granted, getting doors like this made off site is a much better use of time but come on.. a job like this might take more time done on site but thousands of doors are made by thousands of carpenters every day, by hand, and they'll get them spot on.
This shouldn't be a reason alone to out-source.
I have a limited time to produce work based on my work load and demands, I aim for quality and cost effective solutions and not doing tasks that are more suited to a offsite production process, did you listen to my narrative and also see the prices that I published on screen?? I see many mediocre jobs that clients have had done by tradespeople on site and I can assure you that the quality is not good and they are not all spot on!! These 17 doors at less than £30 each manufactured, spray primed, drilled for hinges and edged with the MDF preparation tape, made in under 7 days from order, delivered to site is far cheaper than doing on site
@@ukconstruction firstly, being a big fan of your work and channel I wasn’t just looking to slate your work, I wouldn’t dream of it! I just thought that the comment regarding the quality of work one might be able to do on site. Not comparing to the quality - especially at that price point - of our sourcing. You’re completely right in there being no comparison. I’m one of those carpenters who would likely built doors like this (although off site) and I would like to think that I would produce work to a high standard.
I’m very interested in the prospect of our sourcing, especially as it allows for higher productivity overall although out sourcing isn’t going to suit every job/budget of course.
Commonsense wins out
I feel Ed’s pain in banging his head and I’m not as tall as him . Ouch is the word
Nice job but personally I absolutely hate MDF panels. They are damaged so easily.
This is subcontracting and industries have been doing it for decades and decades - it does exist because it makes financial sense obviously but it is also the main reason 'people' (entire industries if you like) end up being unable to make anything from the ground up as if you dont practice you lose it (in case you ever learned it..) .And so in this industry people become assemblers...not even fitters! Timber frame (vs post and beam which requires skilled labour and expensive timber) houses do exist for that very reason: easy, cheap, the unskilled can do it and a lot of it arrives pre-assembled like timber roof trusses: which builder makes them onsite? Nobody does that anymore. On this occasion I struggle to make sense of this post. On the other way around the skilled crafter still takes pleasure from being able to make one off builds / structures mostly with his own skills. History shows that where there's not much of a skill sooner or later a machine / robot will take over and this has already started. Money economies (to not call it something else) are a trap to humanity and the reason why so many of us start the day covered in plastic cheaper clothes than if they had been made of natural fibres...as someone found it was quicker and cheaper to make them from oil than from natural fibres...I am not a eco warrior by any means but in many ways we keep going in the wrong direction blinded by speed and money...everything for yesterday, as cheap as it can be and as quick as it can be...to arrive at nowhere. Think...
I agree whole heartedly about the dulling down of skills and if you look back through my channel you would have seen that my mission is to share my 35yrs worth of experience of high end carpentry, joinery and construction, and demonstrate traditional crafts, I do feel that times are changing and your mention of the fact that "people end up being unable to make anything from the ground up" is evolution of sorts, and there will be skills that will be replaced no different to other industries as you imply.
I am actually not to concerned about outsourcing to a machine in the case of repetition or financial saving as finding good labour in any trade now has become really difficult, we can only produce so many man days in a year yet the demand from the public especially in the South East where I am is huge, I worry more about many of my clients that are academics, white collar workers and other professionals as Artificial Intelligent capabilities will decimate whole professional sectors too in the way that offsite production robots etc may dilute skills in construction.
Oh and lastly I can make anything still by hand and traditionally however very few of my clients want to pay for it when they can find it more cost effective solution just a click away!
blimey £26 quid a door, primed... a no brainer
Don’t need music
Congratulations on the 100k subs. Found this channel a few months ago and been loving it ever since! 🪚
Thank you Peter