I HEAVILY relate to the 17 year old girl. I'm at a similar age and this year I had my own crisis that lead to depression. And let me tell you, it was not working with my therapist that truly helped me (granted, I don't think she was the right therapist for me), but reading the book of Mormon daily and praying to God to help me even when I was leaning athiest that brought me peace. That peace is what kept me in the gospel. It works, and leaning on Christ will give you joy. If you're reading this comment Bailey, I'm so glad you've decided to stay. It is worth it and God is proud of you ❤
@@Jeanie-nv7lo Oh yeah, I've been listening to Saints Unscripted for three years and I've also joined Uplift. I do need to find the time for books though.
I think that we should all be proud of her because it takes a lot of strength to do what she did and I also went through the same process of falling away from the church for 25 years. I went to a lot of different churches and did a lot of crazy and often stupid and empty things in my life. I left when I was in my 20s because of a number of reasons including a failed relationship with someone in the church. I was excommunicated so it was even more painful for me. Trying to get back in the church now I sometimes feel like I’m damaged. I’m in my 50s now and I have children of my own and I desperately want the things that I was not able to have so I am trying to be a good example for them, but I totally understand what it feels like to be young, and feel like you don’t fit in to people in the church. There are a number of people that were in the church then, and are in the church now just don’t get it. They are blindly following without understanding what they are following or why. I think this is extremely dangerous and foolish. I have a strong testimony of Jesus Christ and the book of Mormon based upon lessons I have learned in life and things that I have personally sought out. This is why so many people think that Mormons are a cult and not an actual church of Jesus Christ. Because people act like they’re in a cult. The problem with the church is not the church, it’s people who have an incomplete understanding and a lack of true faith.
Add me to the group of returning to church. I was rebaptized on April 20th, 2024. The world has nothing to offer. There is a difference between happiness and joy. True joy is found in Christ and His church.
Yes, The Church. We keep encountering prople who claim they can be spiritually close to Christ but not religious with The Church as if that's better. _Nothing could be further from The Truth and the scriptures do not support it_ . Jesus gave us The Church in Acts Chapter 2 and it continues through The Book of Mormon and The Doctrine and Covenants. We recieve Jesus and The Father by recieving His designated servants. Matthew 10: 40. We cannot become perfected in Christ without *_His Church!_* .
Add me to the group who left the church for almost 20 years and regretted it. Lived a life of drug and alcohol abuse, bad choices, and unhappiness. Came back a few years ago and brought my family back with me. Happiest I’ve been since I was a child. Always have hope for the people in your life that they will find happiness.
@@thisisfun887 Good for you for getting away from substance abuse (I've been there and it's a miserable way to live). All I'm saying is that many people are happy in the church, but many people are not. The narrative that happiness only comes from the church is just patently false. Also, kids who hear this but end up leaving (and it's a fact that many are) will stay in out of fear of disappointing their parents. This leads to cognative dissadence, which leads to anger and resentment and broken family relationships. I have multiple family members (siblings and inlaws) who don't believe anymore and are only staying in because they don't want to disappoint parents. I can see the dissonance and unhappiness building in them (they always seem to be angry). It's sad.
@jkaccounting defining happiness you are seeking is key in why we say true happiness lies within the covenant making and keeping sacred ordinances with Christ and living the tenents of the true Gospel in its purest form towards exaltation as best we can. If you define happiness differently what does that mean and where does it take you?
@@alisarichardsramirezmusic2233 I understand what your saying, but it has not been true for me (and many others), and I've never been happier. I know what i believe and why, and I'm experiencing more guidance and spiritual experiences than ever. Again saying that true happiness and joy only exists in the church is black and white thinking that just doesn't hold up to people's lived experiences.
You're better than me my friend. I never did any of that before. But I know if I did, I wouldn't have the strength to come back. Much respect to you 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I am a convert. What I wouldn't give to have had parents who were married in the Temple and taught me the fullness of the gospel. How I wish I grew up going to primary and to young men's and later had gone on a mission. What a blessing to grow up in an active LDS home! Never throw away the best thing in your life!
My mother felt the same as you when she became a member in her 20’s back in the early 80’s. She would have done anything to have a stable home, where mom and dad even though not violent drunks were *always* inebriated, who would have taken her to church more often than Christmas/Easter time to learn more of God, to have had the priesthood in her home, and to know that God guides her and protects her. She’s said often she wishes she was taught about being chaste, and the divine purpose of the powers of procreation. She’s never looked back at her secular cult she belonged to before joining the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I’m happy she made that decision, along with my at the time ex-Mormon dad, to fix their lives and create a lasting family bond.
Same convert here. They do the it for granted and give up their birth right for porridge. And they don't notice the power they have because it's all they have known
I have a good friend who is in her 60s. She grew up devout Catholic and went to a Catholic school with nuns and everything. She converted to the gospel as an adult. She feels emotional thinking about what she missed, not growing up in the church. She has expressed it almost as if it isn't fair that she did not know, did not get to go to primary or the youth program. My husband has expressed similarly, he converted at 18, he was in an abusive home. It really opens my heart to being grateful for my upbringing, even though I'm from a broken home. Primary, YWs, church was an amazingly important part of my upbringing and my life. I am so grateful for it and love to kind of ponder if I had never had it, iykwim.
You may be better off. I joined at 17 with only negative influence about the church beforehand. I had to fight for my testimony and have been a DAILY reader of the BoM for 45 years. People who disregard and neglect the BoM are in peril regardless if they were born into or converted to the church. The spiritual and physical blessings are countless. Stay in the fight.
Oh my gosh, I saw this woman’s channel and blocked it immediately. As a women who was led astray from the Church based on the lie of modern feminism, I can tell you that this battle is deep, prolific, and comes from every possible angle. We MUST be vigilant, and surround our children on equal measure as the Adversary is.
Before the gospel, my life was a total train wreck, darkness, bad decisions, and I was totally lost. I am a Jewish convert of 41 years. Everything good thing in my life came from that decision to be baptized. I've had a million trials, but all along the way I prayed, read the Book of Mormon, attended all my church meetings, attended the temple, fulfilled my callings, served, etc. I had many reasons to leave the church based on the decisions and actions of others. I made tons of mistakes along the way. But following the principles of the gospel, taking personal responsibility, and repenting daily has yielded delicious fruit, millions of blessings, answers to prayers, and a sure knowledge of the reality and divinity of Jesus Christ being the Savior of the world. It is worth everything, the good, the bad, and everything in between. Anchor yourself to the truth and when the storms of satan come, you'll be strong and steadfast. Thank you for this podcast!!
I was the kid who was ostracized and bullied for being gay when I wasn't gay. It's not anti gay, it's just jerk kids being jerk kids. I survived it and came through because I had a strong testimony.
@@amynazzaI was usually bullied and abused by the inactive kids or the non member's. They didn't have guidance at home , so they were mean and abusive. Yes I am from UT county. Kids/ Teens can be jerks.
We did, for many years. FHE, Come Follow Me, BOM, Bible, etc etc…..One by one, they went inactive. BUT…..they know what we’ve taught them, we keep our relationships with them strong and the bridge between us short so when they do return, it won’t be too far of a journey. For now, my wife and I continue to read, magnify our callings and study everyday. It keeps our faith strong. ❤️
Hang in there, we are experiencing the same with our three children. It’s hard and heartbreaking for us. I love hearing stories of those returning to the gospel. It gives us hope.
@@tealkbc1 will do and same to you 🙂 it’s a long road and hard to watch, but we know all will be right one day. I’m in our bishopric and SO many parents experiencing the same thing.
Four of my siblings went through this and are all back now and so so strong. 💛 Those experiences with the spirit and knowledge of the truth never really leave for most of us who have experienced that.
I think this is one of THE most important comments here. Our efforts don’t always translate to children who don’t fall away. The Plan of Redemption requires agency.
We never missed church, we had daily scripture study, all three boys went on missions and then promptly left the church. It has been 20 years and there's been no change in their interest in the gospel. The only thing that gives me some hope is that Alma the younger, wasn't young when he saw that angel. He was an older man.
I was an exMormon and regretted it. But at the time I was just like her and made many videos just like her. But deleted all of them, because fighting against The Church was a complete waste of time.
I hope you follow the example of Alma and the sons of Mosiah who after they converted they used the same skills they used to fight against the church to then fight in favor of it and their new found faith
I grew up in the church and I left in my early twenties. I have never regretted a decision as much as leaving the church of Jesus Christ. Coming back into the church will always be the best thing I ever did for myself.
10:43 Wait a minute... "I've never met an ex-Mormon who regrets leaving the Church." That statement is just a tautological fallacy. Of course you haven't met an ex-Mormon who regrets leaving the Church. If they regret leaving, they are probably just going to come back to the Church. In short, a regretful ex-Mormon isn't going to be an ex-Mormon for very long, except maybe in a few rare cases. She just made a statement that is true by definition but doesn't actually tell us anything. It's like saying "I've never met a cat-hater who doesn't hate cats." Great, that's the definition of a cat-hater, if you met one who doesn't hate cats, then they aren't a cat-hater. It's also an appeal to anecdotal evidence, which is an informal fallacy.
I am an ex-Mormon who regrets leaving the church, although my circumstances were somewhat unique. I wish that I had not made some of the mistakes that I made, but we all have to go through a learning process in order to appreciate what we have lost. She is expressing her personal opinion which should never be confused with. It sounds to me like she has surrounded herself with bitter negative angry people. If that’s all you have around you, then you’re basically in an echo chamber, full of angry, bitter people, and you’re not going to hear any other opinion, except bitter and angry ones
Honesty is not a strong part of this mentality - but let me qualify that. It's not that she, or those in the similar mindset are lying outright, but they've reframed everything mentally in ways that justify their decision. It's a form of internal lie that allows them to believe these lies they've created. For example, the bit about women not having careers a reframed memory on the teachings of the importance of families. I'm 60 yo, and when I joined the Church at age 14, the idea that women should only be homemakers was pretty much gone from any manual or public talks. Sure, it is always the ideal situation, but even then, the economy was rough and having a family was difficult. My wife and I made the decision that she would stay home with our children, and we had to work and sacrifice to make that happen - particularly while a young airman in the USAF making less than minimum wage in the early 80s. More than half the families in every ward I've lived in had dual incomes. I began to notice this process when I started having young women in our stake totally misrepresent lessons they had in Stake Youth Conferences - I was in Stake YM and in those classes. I listened to several of these now adult women talk about the lesson and it's like a completely different lesson. They had reinterpreted it to something completely different. A bit part of this is the progressive movement in our culture that the youth are being completely infected with. It frames everything as trauma and turns everyone they ever knew as toxic.
Life is hard, real and complicated. As a Mormon youth, I pretty much had to figure it all out for myself as my parents were mostly inactive but both had LDS heritage. Ricks College & RM roommates helped me find a path to stay out of trouble. Met a nice girl and we both decided we wanted an eternal family. We set goals to keep the Lord with us, learn & follow the doctrine, stay faithful to the end with daily prayer, scripture and weekly FHE. Made friends and served faithfully in many callings. We are now celebrating 50 years together! We raised 10 children who are still best friends with one another even though 3 no longer do church. It's a whole different world now for our 30 grandchildren: 2 are gender confused, others distracted in vanity and a few excited about missions. Being retired, we do a lot of Temple now and find immeasurable joy in serving and being served. We have high hopes that eventually the cousins will see what creates differences among them and most will eventually chose the higher road for themselves. The scriptures, especially the Book of Mormon, is proving to be more prophetic every day so we share what we can that the light might more clearly be seen through us. Our faith is that eventually the Lord will bring us all together again and covenants will be fulfilled.
I mean I’m not from Utah or the west. But I have my doubts about her honesty- especially after she BULLIED BALLERINA FARMS FUNERAL FOR HER FATHER. One of the most disgusting things I’ve ever seen. Furthermore I’d bet that even in Utah, gay students are able to get away with being bullies while claiming victimhood. Not saying that was the case but that I completely do not trust her honesty as someone who goes out of her way to mock and bully members of the church.
Yeah. Something about that story didn't smell right. I'd believe it if it were from my generation 25 years ago, but a bunch of Zoomers doing that? I'm skeptical.
Yeah, the more I think about it, the less sense that story makes. If I heard her correctly, she said she was teaching first grade. Grade 1 age kids are 5-6 years old, usually. First of all, how do they even know that homophobic slur, much less what it means, especially if they are from LDS families? Latter-Day Saints are notorious for not using foul language, so wherever they learned that is not from Latter-Day Saints. Second of all, she says that this kid is gay. When he's 5 or 6, at most 7? How? How is that possible? Sexual orientation starts emerging at around the start of puberty, which could be from age 9 to 14. How could this kid possibly know his sexual orientation, and how could that possibly have been made common knowledge among his peers? And she was the teacher! It's not like she was powerless to do anything about homophobic behavior in a group of first graders, right? She talks as though she was just a bystander to this bad behavior who could only do so much to put an end to it, though that may not be the reality. And finally, while behaviors that can be interpreted as "suicidality" can be observed as early as 3 years old, it's extremely rare, and even with kids ages 5-7, it's typically the result of emotional distress caused by severe trauma (like the loss of a primary caregiver, neglect, abuse) or unusually intense mental illness. If this was indeed a first grader who tried to kill himself, that suggests that he was dealing with something far worse than his classmates being mean to him because he is gay (keeping in mind that there's no reason to expect a kid that age to have any idea of his sexual orientation). The story just doesn't make sense. It's not impossible, but if it is true, then it's an extremely abnormal occurrence with extremely uncommon factors playing into it. Not the sort of thing that can be blamed on "Mormons". Plus, assigning a single cause to suicidality is not only not possible, but it's extremely unwise. Suicide is too complex a phenomenon to explain any given suicide with a single cause. And people are usually advised against it, as it can cause a social contagion where a number of copycat suicides follow. So on all accounts, her anecdote (if true) is not really something that can be blamed on "Mormonism", and it's actually counterproductive to blame it on the Church if what one cares about is preserving the lives of gay kids. Of course, it's not unlikely that that's not what she cares about, and what she really cares about is doing as much damage to the Church and to people's testimonies as possible, in which case blaming the Church for this sort of thing isn't counterproductive.
@@matthewsmith5967 I think she said "first year", which I think either indicates Grade 7 or Grad 10 depending on whether it is Junior High or High School (if that still how it works in the USA). If it really was a Grade 1 class, then I'd say she's just making the whole thing up.
That poor, sweet young lady😔. I absolutely agree that we as parents need to be involved and honest with our children. My girls have friends who left church because of church history so I have educated my kids in every aspect I understand about the history and how imperfect things and people are and how some false doctrine is part of the sifting process as mentioned by Bruce R McConkie. I share my testimony daily and remind my kids that the church is an ongoing restoration. Every parent also needs to educate their children on anti mormon channels and how to identify without watching. This part will be a trigger...I know. However, modesty should be taught to both boys and girls. Teaching modesty is not shaming. Telling girls they have to wear as little as possible to be loved IS shaming. Modest Dress absolutely influences how we feel about ourselves and how we want others to see us.
I was baptized in the church at 8 years old. Drifted away after my dad died shortly after I was baptized. I lived a life of sin and was addicted to heroin. I had kids and struggled working multiple jobs without their dad's in their life to help financially or otherwise. I met my husband 4 years ago who is also in recovery. He went thru the temple 4 years ago and I did about 2 years ago. We are getting married in the temple and take our children to church. Though I still struggle with human things I know that God loves me and my family along with every other human and living thing on the planet. I have SEEN how it has changed my life and I am terrified with how the world is going right now. My kids are ages 2-14 and some of the things they hear and see at school or search online it is just so scary. I need to do better studying the scriptures with my kids.
14 But Zion said, The Lord hath forsaken me, and my Lord hath forgotten me. 15 Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee. 16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me. Isaiah 49 Thank you for sharing your story❤️
You got this mama! I know it's so hard, but coming from a kid who's mom made it a point NO MATTER WHAT to study the scriptures as a family and have devotionals together every day - it's so worth it that is the greatest gift my mom gave me with all her imperfections I am SO blessed and call her blessed for her spiritual lessons she taught to us every day through the scriptures. 💛 Its worth it! And Jesus Christ is there to help and make up the difference when we fall short. Much love!
You're doing great! Don't be hard on yourself - that's the adversary talking. Just keep trying and your children will be blessed and will learn, even if you miss reading at times. God sees your efforts and heart and your kids do too.
What an amazing story. Glad to have you back. Remember us repenting and needing the atonement wasn’t the backup plan. It was THE plan! Christ loves you for the progress you’ve made. Don’t ever forget that. So great to have you with us in the church. All of us are broken and prone to wander. All the best dear sister!
I'm a convert and joined when I was 18. My parents raised me with good values but no God or church. I got into drugs and alcohol. I bounced from rehab to treatment center and reform schools. I came to one in Utah, and seeing light in the Latter-day Saints gave me hope. I knew they had what I wanted. I am so grateful to have joined. It breaks my heart seeing people leave. I wish I could have my family in this with me, and go to the temple with my mum. It is the most beautiful thing!
Right? It truly is. I wish everyone could see how incredible the gospel light is (including some members who dont realize what they have so they don't live it).
Been a member all my life, worked my way into management at UPS before I got married. Also a member of the military, retired in 2022 after 36 years as a LTC. I have a master's degree in Organizational Management. I have two step daughters and two sons, at no point during my lifelong membership did any one from the church tell me I should have stayed home and not get an education. Cracks me up to hear people accuse the church of this! They're dead wrong I'm living proof!
I work full time. Most of the women at church have degrees and work. I think as I live outside of the states it’s easy for people living in Utah to think that the LDS culture there is normal and the same all over the world. In most places LDS members are the minority. We all have work to do to become better people and make better choices. It’s easy to associate peoples bad choices and different opinions as all encompassing of the church as a whole. Thanks for the reminder of what my kids are up against. Constancy in living the gospel and developing our relationships with Christ is essential, knowledge is key and seeking the spirit so we act in the best way possible for our individual circumstances.
Thank you for the encouraging words! I am a mom of 5 (2 teenagers) and my a husband is in the military and has been gone since May. Holding down the spiritual fort while he is away can be hard sometimes, but your video gave me encouragement for the coming week - to be diligent with our family gospel study. It’s the most important thing I can do with my children. I have subscribed to all the faith-building LDS channels on UA-cam I can find, and it really helps me keep an eternal perspective and encourage me to be diligent in the gospel and my covenants. Also, my 14yo son really likes your videos, especially the ones on Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon. It has been good for him to see young men like the Paul brothers proclaim the truth, defend the faith, and bear testimony. Keep up the good work!
Father of 5 and also Active Duty. Truthfully, I can’t help but feel that those of us in military wards and branches have the best of the best. The Church is small, but even more tight-knit in the Military and especially in the specific branch of the service we are in.
Because of the Church of Jesus Christ, I am trying to fix all those broken parts of me that would belittle my brothers and sisters. Because of the Savior, I am a better man than I was yesterday. Christ is real, and WILL heal all of us, if we let Him.
I'm a convert of eight years and have been a public school teacher in New England for 25 years. In my area of New England, very few people go to church ... any church, including the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In all of my years and having taught a couple thousand students, I've only had four who were LDS. I've seen gay students picked on throughout those years, especially boys who are gay, and they weren't picked on by the four LDS students I had.
I've noticed the same thing. My nephew is gay and gets bullied plenty and he's atheist. But he also does plenty of his own bullying. He's by far not innocent
@@nanetteiglupas7838 Agreed. I pray that day comes quickly. I would not want to contribute to making someone doubt his or her faith. I'm concerned for her, as she says that's her goal.
Yes! Whether it’s Alyssa G or Michelle Stone, or any number of “tempters” in and out (or soon to be out) of the church we must be vigilant! The adversary uses many tactics to deceive. Many don’t notice until too late.
At some point, everyone confronts his or her faith (faith = the religious word for confidence). Nephi did it. Peter did it. Joseph son of Jacob did it. Mary did it. Sarah did it. Abraham did it. Joseph Smith did it. My dad did it. I did it. Jesus did it. Welcome to the party, Bailey. Confidence / faith is ephemeral. Can't see it. Can't touch it. Can't smell it. But, it is the most powerful thing in the Universe ... kind of like love. And, when you have it, not even a 100 mph fast-ball can intimidate you. Nephi had it. Peter got it. Joseph had it. Mary had it. Jesus has it. Bailey will get it. You go girl.
I have been a lifelong member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and my wife and I were married in the Manti Temple in 2001. I can say how important it is to have faith in Jesus Christ and always keep in mind that there is opposition in all things. My biggest challenge in life has been struggling financially. It has been hard for me to find employment to keep me and my wife financially stable. I know that is more temporal than spiritual, but things are difficulty when you don't know how to pay for things. I know that God understands us more then we understand ourselves I know it is also important to attend the temple regularly. We are blessed to live in Leeds, Utah where we are only a half-hour from either the St. George Utah Temple or the Red Cliffs Utah Temple. I have a goal to attend the temple once a week. I am hoping to serve as an ordinance worker on Saturdays at the Red Cliffs Utah Temple.
Awesome video! As a father of 7 children, I was amazed at Jaxon’s wisdom here and it resonated very strongly with me. Great advice! I have stepped up my study as Jaxon said so that I can really teach my kids from the spirit. Satan is working hard on my kids and I need to step up. It can’t be a half hearted effort to teach the kids the restored gospel.
Being a parent in these times is so difficult. I often feel like I'm failing. I remind myself that my Father in Heaven didn't put me here to fail. So long as I'm doing my best, he'll make up the rest.
My brother was inactive in the church for most of his daughter's lives and didn't really even talk to them about the Gospel. About a year ago, he reactivated and has been making up for lost time. His daughters (16 and 18) have been very receptive. It's not too late to start doing what you should be doing. Don't be discouraged and think that you've already failed. You only fail if you never start.
Everyone needs to watch this. Separating Christs pure doctrine/gospel from imperfect human behavior is a skill we all need to develop. Thanks for the reminder!🔥🔥
The gospel teaches us to be good stewards. The Proclamation on the Family is still the ideal, but leaves open for our personal circumstances. Both parents should build and foster healthy loving and spiritual relationships with their children. Both fathers and mothers will be held accountable for the discharge of their stewardship. The church has always taught that we should learn as much as possible in this life. I have so much more to say on this topic. But, I will end with this one thought. History of any group of people is not perfect. Maybe it would be good for all of us to evaluate or own flaws. Often times we are quick to see the mote in someone else without reflecting on the beam within our own eye. This young woman is bitter and angry. I have deep empathy for her. I pray that she will find peace in her life.
The difference in a home where scripture and gospel discussions are a rarity versus a home where they are common, natural, and expected is immeasurable. ❤
Bullying hasn’t been a problem for years. It’s been a problem for centuries. High has had jerks for decades. The problem in utah is alot of the jerks are also LDS. You go anywhere else outside big Mormon hubs and you’ll see absolutely terrible bullying
I am a returning member. She is so wrong...oh so woefully wrong. Is she the same chick that makes fun of the temple ceremonies? I would not want to be her.
This is the one. My wife is a nice person, literally the nicest person I have ever met (complete opposite of myself in these matters), she won’t even say hateful things of Satan 😂. But when she saw AG’s shorts on our garments and temple clothing she lost it at the complete mockery coming from AG. She was FURIOUS anyone would do this, couldn’t fathom the complete dishonesty involved in what AG posts. I had to calm her down and it took a while. Later we both looked at each other and realized what we’re up against. I’ve known for a while that the lies in the Internet were bad, but this content attacking us is meant to infect our kids (real adults know TikTok is 99% mostly mind mush and almost never worthy of being taken seriously) but kids are not capable of seeing it right away as the mental midgetry that is is. 😢
@@dcarts5616 yes. Children and young people are absolutely 100% the targets now. The adversary has re-doubled and even tripled his effort to destroy families and to destroy the minds and hearts of children, teenagers, and young single adults. It is a constant battle for me with my kids to help them. Keep a good perspective and think for themselves while also still, trying to pass along gospel principles to them. I have made a lot of mistakes in my own life so I may not be able to tell someone how to live their life but I sure as heck. Tell them how to not live one. If you can pick up anything bad other than murdering someone, in my lifetime I have probably done it, which is why I am in such great need of the Lord mercy and understanding, and why he has been so liberal and giving me wisdom and patience. If anything, after all that I have been through and done, the blessings of being allowed to become a parent and teach others so that they will not make my mistakes has been an epiphany for me, and a privilege. It’s also a massive responsibility and I see the young young people like this woman who are poisoning the well water out of spite. In my opinion, that’s all it is. They are angry and bitter, and they have not learned to let go of their anger or bitterness yet because they surround themselves with other people who are angry and bitter, which is like a swimming pool full of piranha. You’re never going to get a different opinion because they will be devoured instantly. It’s weird because I’ve never seen such hatred and animosity towards any other church inside the United States. I have attended services at many different churches, and there will always be bigotry, sexism, racism, and religious tolerance, but I’ve never seen such animosity as that which comes from those who are ex-members of the church. They literally cannot let it alone. They don’t move on with their lives and just say oh well I don’t believe that and I’m gonna do something different. Instead, they make it their lives mission to target the church and everyone who belongs to the church. Believe me, I have more than enough cause to hate the church from when I was young, but I don’t. Because I know that the church is legitimate and that the teachings are true. I know that the sacred things contained in the book of Mormon are true and real. I know that those people actually live in the Americas. I have artifacts in my possession personally that I have found. So I know that it’s all real. Even without ever having a shred proof, the amazing teachings contained within the book of Mormon have convinced me that it is sincere. If you see those words, and you know the Lord and how he is… you know they came from the Lord. I get it to debates and arguments all the time with people online and I finally have just stopped. Because I know that you could literally hand them the gold plates and they wouldn’t believe they were real. An angel could appear to them and they would deny it. They had the spirit of Lehman and Lemuel. They had the spirit of open rebellion and resistance. Until things have happened to them in their lives that humble them they will never change their perspective. I think at this point we have to stand up and defend our beliefs on an individual basis. People will say that I am defending Church and I say I am defending what I believe personally happens to align with what the church teaches and also what is contained within the book of Mormon. Because that’s what it is. That’s why we are told to develop and cultivate a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and keep the Holy Spirit close to us. Because it’s necessary for our personal individual survival. On top of that I have to worry about my kids who are teenagers now and probably at their most vulnerable.
I love hearing all the testimonies in the comments! I have a couple of uncles who left the Church for misguided reasons, and I hope someday they remember what they’re missing.
I was off & on in the church for about 15 years. I always believed in Jesus, though many things didn't make sense to me inside the church. I always wanted to find the truth. I am so grateful that I came back to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I don't agree with everything leaders claim, though I also believe that a prophet is only a prophet when he speaks as a prophet, just as Joseph Smith said. We are all just doing our best to follow our Savior to the best of our own understanding & accepting that each of us have our own journey that Jesus is leading us through is a necessity for this life. Thank you so much for this video. I have taught many youth in my life about the principles & let them live as their conscious dictates. After having my own children, that didn't seem to be enough. Though I need to accept that only God & his son, our Savior Jesus Christ, can lead them if they too choose to search as I did when I was younger. I simply must put my trust in the Lord to keep them safe & trust that if I give it my best effort, he will fill the gaps.
(Pt. 2) Our homes can be mini MTC's. Have Gospel artwork around, and when your kid's friend's ask, "What is that picture about?" Kids can give a simple response or testimony (First Vision, Christ in America, Lehi's Dream, etc.), the friend will know a little bit more and that we do worship Christ and your child will see how easy it can be to share the gospel in a natural way. *(Ideas from Diana Hoelscher, that I mentioned in Pt 1.)[Her experiences are so powerful!] ❤
You guys in USA become soft and diving up your HOLY FAITH so easy! The Church of Jesus Christ is worth fighting for ,it' s history based on blood of best people on earth. satsn fighting hard to twart this Work fight back we'll prevail! No unhallowed hand can stop this Gospel from establishing on earth!
I have been wanting to offer more of truly DAILY living the gospel to my kids and this just reinvigorated me. We have so little time with them & I've been wanting to jump in. This just gave me the push I've been needing.
I am from Mexico & I joined the Church in 1975, I went through hell bc my entire family cut me off for leaving the Catholic Church. A lot of racism in my ward/stake against Mexicans, a lot of fighting. Suffering continued when I left on my mission. I followed Pres. Kimball’s counsel as well as my bishop about marrying “within my race & socio-economic background 😢.” As a result, my children and I have suffered much abuse but I did the very best to teach them the Gospel and give them a foundation in Christ such as I had had. The Gospel has been my anchor, I know things/people won’t always be awful like this. But my sadness grows as my children-all served missions, all married in the temple- are going totally left wing, one has left the Church. Why did I ever join the Church? I don’t want to be in a kingdom where my children are not. Heaven only knows what will happen to my beautiful grandchildren 😭
Dont despair! Jesus says he is not done until he has saved all the works of his hands. Also did you know that the final judgment is not until the end of the millennium. Don't lose hope! Satan wants you to give up, don't allow him to win.
Continue to be who you are… And understand that everything you have been through in your life has been for a greater purpose. This sounds to some people, but I can tell you that because of the faith of my mother I ended up coming back to the church after being away for over 20 years. I never actually hated the church but at one point I turned my back completely on it and wasn’t even sure that I believed in God anymore until I finally had a remarkable and miraculous and very sacred experience, when a missionary was giving me a blessing. I had not been around the church for a while and I was in the military, and some missionaries came onto our base. While that missionary was laying his hands upon me and giving me a blessing that I asked, I had what I can only describe as a personal revelation that was extremely powerful. I can’t go into the details here because it’s too sacred, but I can tell you that all things have a purpose. Don’t give up on your children and don’t give up on your grandchildren. Because my mother did not give up I ended up coming back to the church. I am now teaching my children, who are Catholic to pray, to believe in Christ and have a personal relationship with him, I read the book of Mormon as well as the Bible to them. We watch a TV series called The Chosen together. They are good kids, and I am so proud of them. As a father, I am trying to be the kind of father to them that my father never was to me. I use Christ and heavenly father as my template and try to do my best. Don’t let some people do steer you off of the path that you were already on because that is always what the enemy does. They use people close to us to hurt us the most. That is what Satan is very good, he enjoys the knife and causing as much pain and damage as possible. I have gained a great deal of wisdom over the last 20 years and I am a better person for it, and I have the school teachers of my children, telling me how great my kids are, and when I have leadership from the church telling me to not give up or despair, how can I? There was a given by a couple of years ago. I’m going to look it up and come back here and post a link to it and I think you should watch it because it was powerful and so meaningful to me on a personal level.as a parent, as a son, as a grandson and as a child of God, I urge you to just pray pray pray, and don’t ever give up. Endure to the end and you will see the fruit upon the tree. I promise.
What did the apostate Alyssa do when the student who was harassed as the teacher? Did she try helping the student? Did she stand up for the student or let it slide? Were the bullies LDS? How does she know if the bullies are LDS? There are a just as many non-member students in Utah as LDS students. The hazing could have easily been from non-LDS students. I know if this was happening around my LDS kids, they would stand up for the gay kid if he was bullied. Most good LDS kids would do the same and are taught the same. We teach to stand up to bullies and protect the weak. Alyssa isn't being intellectually honest about what the church and good parents actually teach.
Plus, unless I misheard her, this was a first grade class. Kids in the first grade are 5-6 years old, 7 at most. It's not like she would've been a bystander that was powerless to put a stop to uncharacteristically homophobic behavior in a group of kids that haven't even been alive for a decade yet. That, and sexual orientation only BEGINS to be realized at around puberty. Even if we assume this kid was old for his grade and is 7 years old, the earliest we would normally expect him to go into puberty is 9 years old, and even then the range for the start of puberty is anywhere between 9 and 14 years old. I am skeptical of the idea that this first grader could have had any idea he was gay, much less that be common knowledge to his peers, since sexual orientation only begins to emerge at the beginning of puberty, and in some cases isn't fully apparent until well into their teenage years. I'm skeptical of the whole story in general, but if we assume that it's true, I'd hazard a guess that this kid's sexuality wasn't even close to being known, but one of his parents (probably his mother, statistically speaking) is a ravening narcissist who wants to have unearned moral virtue by being a mother of an LGBTQ kid, and so when her son said or did something that wasn't really weird or unexpected for a kid his age at all, she took whatever it was as a sign that he was gay and started telling him and his teachers and all her Facebook friends about it so she could feel good about being such an affirming mother to a gay child. Maybe not though. But even if the story she told is 100% true, and somehow we can know with certainty that the kid was actually gay, the whole situation still can't be blamed on "The Mormons". It would be an extremely unfortunate and abnormal situation, and certainly not something that the doctrine of the Church would've caused. Saying that the cause of the suicide of LGBTQ kids is "Mormonism" isn't only not accurate, but it's actually unhelpful too. Speculation on the cause of a suicide is ill-advised, as it's not possible to narrow it down to a single cause (too complicated a phenomenon), and it can also lead to a social contagion where there would be a chain of copycat suicides. Blaming the Church is counterintuitive if she actually cares about the wellbeing of gay kids. Perhaps though, that's not what she cares about. Perhaps what she cares about is doing as much damage to the Church and the testimonies of its members as possible, in which case placing the blame on the Church wouldn't be counterintuitive in the slightest.
I grew up up in UT and graduated in the early 2000’s even then when I told people I wanted to just be a mom I was alone in that idea. As a mom of teens now I am the only mom I know- with only teens- who is still a stay at home mom. It is a stereotype that in my opinion hasn’t been true for over a decade.
13:19 I wish more people had warned me about how sad my life would be in my older years for not having kids. I wish they had told me the importance of having kids in your old age. I was lied to by feminists. Not the church.
Thank you for this encouragement. I’ve been feeling so discouraged and overwhelmed today at the evil being called good all around us and feeling inadequate as to how to protect or better yet, empower my children. The second verse from Come, Come Ye Saints are coming to mind. “Why should we mourn or think our lot is hard? ’Tis not so; all is right. Why should we think to earn a great reward If we now shun the fight? Gird up your loins; fresh courage take. Our God will never us forsake; And soon we’ll have this tale to tell- All is well! All is well!”
These are the same type of people that will read the headlines of a news article, but not bother to investigate. What’s actually in the article itself. They are being suckered into baited hooks without understanding anything further or investigating. These are the people with shallow attention, spans that think they are so very clever, but in reality they aren’t.
It’s pretty clear if that’s what she really cared about then her content would have a whole different tone. But at this point, she just does it for the clicks and the money because mocking and making fun of us is infinitely more worth it for her than helping people.
This is critical. It's why I even created my channel, to teach my kids the gospel. They listen to me better from the TV than in our lessons! Lol! But seriously, nothing is more important than teaching our kids the gospel from the scriptures and the prophets in general conference. It's taken awhile but they are really grasping the importance of learning the gospel and having scripture time and quiet time with the Lord! Living the gospel, studying the scriptures and talking about our desires to follow and serve the Lord is important for us parents to do in order to be effective teachers. Teaching my kids to be patient and loving towards one another and their cousins and friends isn't very effective if we are bad talking and judging our neighbors and not patient with others ourselves. 😊
Misery loves company unfortunately. I had an old youth leader feed me anti material. I was 17 at the time. I didn't know he had left church. So what he was telling me i actually thought was true and just me in my young age and immaturity didn't know yet. It shook me abit. Until i started retelling this stuff to my dad, lucky he clued on and asked where i heard this. He swiftly put an end to this ex leader talking with me. Which for him might have been awkward because my dad was friends with this guy up until that point. I think it's really important we use discernment. If it feels off, question it, fact check it, get to the root of where this comes from. And i think that will go a long way in us discerning truth and light and its opposite.
I remember so many of my peers saying, "I don't want to be here because of how my parants suffered." Looking at that, I realize in myself, do I love the Gospel, or do I just try to check boxes? Do I show that this Gospel brings me the most joy? Do I show my children that this is the place that gives peace and rest in the most trying times? Do I love it or do I just do that "one day a week mormon" life? We look at the Stripling Warriors, we will see that their Mothers knew it! What does that mean? They saw their Mother's live it! Because it was the way, the truth, the life! Most of the Stripling Warriors Fathers were killed bowing down in prayer in front of their enemies, because they knew it! They knew that living the Gospel was the only way. I believe their Mother's rejoiced in the sake of the Gospel and they taught their young Men how to live by living it them selves. I agree whole heartedly that we are the reason so many of our children leave. I can't say we are the sole reason, because we do have that agency to choose. Let us live lives that reflect the joy of the Gospel, as to show all of His Children that Christ is the only way!
First reaction to her comment about not being able to follow your dreams: I have seen some of that culturally, but myself never felt that. Im 57. I have 5 children. God has been telling me to be an artist and a writer since my youngest child was 2. I'm still working on following His advice. He has given me everything I've wanted or dreamed of. Thanks for this channel. We have to fight so hard today to share the truth. The gospel has brought great joy into my life even when I know the church is not perfect.
Yes the more positive truthful online content by faithful LDS creators the better. Jackson you will find out soon enough that doing all the right things as a parent is often not enough to overcome the overwhelming amount of online poisoning. You can literally promote any narrative you want on ticktock and it can literally be a complete fabrication . So not only do we need to protect against actual poor examples in the church, but we have to defend every false accusation from ex mos. Alyssa is a complete liar and an exaggerating bitter person with a vendetta to heap misery on anyone that disagrees with her impression of the church. Mark my words in 20 years you with be talking with your wife about what more could we have done to help our wayward child. No parents I know need a pep talk but we will take channels like stick of Joseph all day long to help thank you every minute of online content defending the church is huge
My brother was “less active” for thirty years. I’m a huge huge believer in prayer. My brother has come back and is very active and he and his beautiful wife have been sealed in the Oakland Temple. He’s much happier now. By the way, my brother baptized his wife, as he came back, he (and some lovely sister missionaries) converted her. ❤
Thank you… 🙏🏻…. you give us hope in our youth. Even though reading scriptures and teaching our children doesn’t always keep them on the path we want them to be on… I at least know that if they ever want to return, they do know what the church is about ♥️ And honestly…. Shout out to primary songs… read scriptures and sing primary songs with kids and grandkids… everything I remember about Primary… I learned thru a primary song 🎶
I started reading the Book of Mormon every day with my kids when my oldest was 2. It took me a while to switch to come follow me and be good at it, but it came with persistence. As my oldest has become a teen now I am so grateful for all the time I put in. I can see the battle field pretty clearly. I see that even missing one day stirs up a battle with the enemy. It just needs to be a little bit everyday and it adds up quick! Time is moving so fast!! I know Jesus is the living Christ and our Savior. I know The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints is God’s kingdom on the Earth today. I know the Book of Mormon is true and I can testify that it brings the spirit to our homes and lives and teaches more about Christ’s character.
Ward radio is pretty obnoxious. Gotten worse since Jonah joined because he brutally attacks boomers in the comment section. So inappropriate!! David Alexander who started off so great also goes over the top in his attacks. So sad!
Its so interesting to me about being bullied and labeling it as if the church is to blame...no its not. I was born and raised LDS. I went to HS in a town of 300 people. I was made fun of horribly bad by my non LDS peers for being LDS and "a prude". I had crippling anxiety from being bullied. I was threatened. I was also bullied for being "pretty and having a nice body". These girls threatened to take me behind the school and beat me up. Another girl told my brother that she hated me because I was pretty. Another girl humiliated me in front of my entire class to the point that I left the gym, walked to my grandma's and it took all the will power in the world of my parents to get me ever to walk back into the school. By my senior year I was getting ready to go to school in a different state with family friends because I couldn't take another day of it. I stayed and toughed it out. But I still suffer from anxiety and feeling accepted at times because women at work, non LDS (yes, I've worked outside the home) have bullied me just as bad as I was bullied in HS. I was a stay at home mom for 10 years and now have worked full and part time out of the home for 12 and I'd give anything to be a stay at home wife and mother again. I enjoy my home, working on my crafts and keeping my home clean. I dread going to work, but at least us women have that option for those of us who need or want it. (I got divorced 10 yrs ago so that's what started me working outside the home). So I've been on both sides. I'm not gay, I'm fully LDS and always have been and I was STILL bullied by people with no affliction with the church. This lady has definitely not looked very far outside the box. Its just like you guys implied "bullying happens everywhere by all sorts of groups". It has NOTHING to do with the culture or teachings of the church. It has to do with broken people who need to mature, take responsibility and grow up. And I've seen in myblife personally people come back to the church as well as a few people I follow on social media who have left and came back. It happns everyday. But women like this are hurting others. 2 of my own children have left...1 because of influences like hers and of course their own free will and ability to make choices and walk away. I've respected and continued to love my kids that have left the church. Ive never guilted them or tried to get them back in. My job is "assistant manager", God's job is "manager". So I love, I encourage and I'm there for them with zero pressure or guilt about church things.
I agree with you completely about the importance of reading the scriptures with your children DAILY. It is vital to their spiritual, and really their temporal survival as well, in these last days.
What is his church? Can our ordinances save us? There will be many who prophecy in my name, who cast out demons and work miracles yet the lord will say I never knew you, and call us evil. Temple , tithing, garments, prophets have become an idol to this people collectively, that scripture is mind blowing to me. We really don’t even have the signs of the believers that should fallow the body of Christ. Mosiah scripture you shared is awesome the lord simply views us as the repentant sinner vs the unrepentant sinner. He says come to me with out money without price and I will give you rest! All he needs is our broken heart and contrite spirit. I hope we can start reading the bom with new eyes and cast out all other doctrine or else Jesus says hell gates are wide open to receive us and we have a whole book of doctrine we have added to Christ doctrine. We must throw off the religious spirit and embrace the plain and precious truth. It is written we are temple of God, as the prophets have said where can God dwell what man has made heaven is his thrown and earth is his footstool?
Alissa Grenfeld (however it's spelled) is very disingenuous in her arguments. She pretends that people coming to call her out in her comments is the same as people telling her to stop talking or to not dare criticize the church. And it doesn't seem to matter how anyone's feedback is phrased. She's just bitter and is a very toxic example of an ex member. Just like you, i know plenty of people who regretted leaving the church. I also know people who seem just fine and maybe even happier having left. I've never known someone as bitter as Alissa about the church who truly seemed happy. I'm sure she's happy she left. Clearly she didn't like it. But I'm tired of being insulted because i truly believe this is God's church. So i do call her out. I totally understand someone having criticism of the culture as well as the organization itself and even having issues with some of the doctrine because it depends on how you understand it and what you find OK with your own frame of how the world, life and eternity work. But she conflates a lot of things for the church and the doctrine that aren't those things.
Something interesting in that TikTok video is when she said, “if I can break the chain of Mormonism for even one family, this account is infinitely worth it to me.” Now imagine Lucifer himself saying that. I couldn’t imagine him saying it any different. “Infinitely worth it…” interesting phrasing🤔
I couldn’t believe that when I heard it! I work a lot. My kids love me, I love them, we have a GREAT relationship. Did she just admit to having “daddy” issues? 😮
Alyssa, and others such as Ex-Mo Lex, have the benefit of being young and cute. Many will not bother to dig into their half truths and frequently, out right misrrpresentations. One of the best antidotes to half truths about doctrine and church history (besides scripture study and prayer) is to read more doctrine and history. Dig deep.
Timing is everything. Education is a life time pursuit. Having a family and becoming a mom is the best choice I have made and I still enjoy my family. I did graduate from college with a BS degree and then obtained my master’s degree and now a licensed professional with my own business. I am not the only woman in the church doing this.
I find it interesting that those who choose to leave the church can never leave the church alone. I feel like they spend their time seeking revenge. And I don’t know why they’re under the assumption that everyone in the church is perfect and can never make bad choices. That really truly boggles my mind. Another thing I don’t understand is why is this lady so profoundly impacted by a bunch of five and six-year-olds. It’s very strange to me. Not that you shouldn’t listen to children but let’s face it how much life experience do five and six year olds have. And should you really base your entire life on what they think or how they behave.
@@dcarts5616 well it sure seems that way to me. There’s quite a lot of people out there that have started UA-cam channels or the lot, The bash on the church. And they all seem to have a holier than Val complex. It almost feels like they’re calling out The pot and they’re the tea kettle.
Jack you are correct, this is culture vs doctrine. The LDS culture doesn't always align with doctrine. That's one reason why God gives us prophets and apostles to help correct the culture so that it aligns more with doctrine. These people who leave the church and fight against it fight so hard against the culture in which most times we agree with them. All the reasons that young gal gives were all cultural issues that don't line up with doctrine.
@HalfInsaneJane no other doctrine can compare to what the Infinite Atonement of Jesus Christ is clarified in the Book of Mormon. The fulness of the doctrine of Jesus Christ's Gospel, which is His Infinite Atonement, has never been more clear, complete, and revealed as such as in the Book of Mormon. You won't find the power and doctrine explained anywhere else. If the pure doctrine of Christ turns you away what hope and truth do you really turn to? ALL other principles and other important doctrines are appendages to the most important; the Infinite Atonement of Jesus Christ, taught in His true church. I hope you will find peace and comfort knowing His Atonement is for you too.
Very good analysis of the improper representation the young lady is giving on LDS youth/culture and the awful bullying the young man was suffering, which she described. Where does this not happen? And much of the world's cultures would not only bully but probably assault if not worse. She doesn't have a clue about the real world. Nothing to do with upbringing in LDS doctrine, it is the opposite. We are taught to love as Jesus loves us!!
Why do teachers like this never suspect that the actual problem is the public school system? I grew up in Minnesota. I was one of maybe 5 members in my high school. People, unfortunately, treated kids exactly the same way there.
Add me to the list of returned. I ultimately found myself in one emotional breakdown after another and didn’t understand the emotions I was feeling. One day I prayed in desperation before taking my life, and received a very strong and clear answer to read from the Book of Mormon. The peace I fell as I began reading, took me straight back to the love I felt as a child in my home. I received a mission call 8 months later at age 23.
16:05 if anything, it’s not the church that’s doing that, but it is the families who are not serious about teaching their kids the gospel that end up being the ones making fun of those kids
Almost none of you have any idea what the youth and single over 30 are facing. The more I speak to LDS marrieds, the more I see that they are living in a comfortable bubble and afraid to really see the culture change and think the church magically will protect the youth from that world as long as they ignore and idealize the world. We are not prepared for what they are facing...or you would see a massive effort to expose what they are facing. Alyssa is the least of your problems
Something I have learned hardly in life that if you’re so busy talking that you can’t hear the voice of the spirit… Maybe you should close your mouth and open your ears a little more. A personal lesson I have learned. People are too quick to speak without thinking. Very slow to listen without judging.
thats a direct product of secular culture AND THE PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM... NOT THE CHURCH. HOLY HELL. This is public education behavior. NOT EVERY KID IN UTAH IS LDS. WILD WILD WILD.
Threatening to self-harm if you don’t get your way is called “coercive control” and that video is a clever use of it, pretending to defend an innocent who says you must not practice your religion or else someone will harm themselves. You’re unironically being emotionally abused.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is not just an ideal, but it is the Savior’s church restored in our day. It contains the fullness of his teachings and ordinances. Most importantly, the Lord’s church invites all to come and partake of the blessings of the Savior’s grace because of his atoning sacrifice. I have not lived a perfect life, but I have hope by looking to the Savior and repenting daily, We as a church are flawed human beings who have need of the Savior.
My wife left the church, which has been a curse turned into a blessing for me because I knew that if I was going to help her I needed real answers, not superficial answers that promote temporary faith. I've always loved the scriptures and knew them well but I've gotten more from the scriptures since she left (one year ago) than I've received in the other 30 years of my life because I knew I could accept nothing less than the full answer. I learned how to dig down and build my foundation upon Christ. Many answers have come as a result, most of which were answers I thought I would never know. There is still a healthy amount of unresolved questions inside me waiting for its answer. The answers I have received have enabled me to teach our two kids simple gospel subjects with much greater clarity than I ever received as a kid. Hopefully she'll wake up soon. I don't think she realizes how much our kids need her testimony. Our nation is about to be shaken hard. My hope is that it will help my lovely wife to wake up.
I'm in the same situation as you. My testimony in the Savior has grown exponentially. He has revealed many mysteries unto me. Trials really are growing opportunities. My children see a difference in their mother. They also see a difference in me. Keep setting an example. Your children will learn to recognize the fruits of the gospel. Temple covenants are a protection to you and your family.
I feel your pain my wife left too and has done all she can to damage the children’s testimonies, too. I hope your prayers are ultimately answered soon. 🙏🏻
Stay strong brother. The stats are on your side - a strong LDS father tends to inspire his kids toward the same choices. Many women are leaving the church in modern times. And many of these will come back - after losing everything that truly made them happy
It's so hard to have a spouse question their faith and entire belief system. I love how you have been able to take something good from such a harrowing experience (Roman's 8:28 one of my favorite scriptures). Stay strong! I have gone through this / am still going through this but have seen straight up miracles and progress in ways I never would have dreamed possible in some of my darker days. Prayers for you and your family, it truly is such a difficult road to navigate.
Perhaps someone has already called attention to the hypocrisy of the girl in the "anti mormon" video, but she is extolling on the harm done to members of our church by those who believe and teach their children to believe, but neglects to notice that she is doing harm through her crusade to bring down the church. Her anger is palpable in the video, and I would like to propose that the harm she is inflicti g on others is equal to the harm done by broken members of the church.
I was told by members not to look at Anti-Mormon stuff. So I did. I don't regret it as it lead me to question more and search both sides of the argument and gain a deeper testimony (i bothered to ask god for myself and got a reply at the beginning, i just didnt know how it all fits together). I don't want to live in darkness and ignorance. Search both sides and ask God, stop waiting for the prophet to hold your hand the whole way.
I looked at anti-information, on a small level, while I was investigating. I listened to a video by a former bishop and a former member/professor (BYU professor, I believe). I noticed two things. First, I noticed what I'll call inconsistencies. For example, the professor said those in the LDS faith never pray and never pray in church. While investigating, I went to church regularly for four months prior to baptism. I knew that was not true. Additionally, I noticed a feeling inside myself when I was watching their videos. It wasn't a good feeling. Understatement. I did not feel light. I felt darkness. I've not looked at anti-materials since. I had that "taste" from a former bishop and former professor, I heard inconsistencies in what happened at church on a weekly basis, and felt a darkness that made me very uncomfortable. I don't want to bring darkness into my life. Since baptism, I haven't even been able to read mysteries like I did in the past. There's a darkness there, even in works of fiction, that doesn't feel right anymore but feels dead wrong. What do I really want to bring into my mind, emotions, body, and spirit? I think we should be incredibly mindful, intentional, and search for truth in scripture, in prayer, and from the prophet.
This represents the age old falecy "The few represents the sum of the whole". This is how Cultural stereotypes are born, In all It's crucial to consider a broader perspective and gather more comprehensive data before drawing conclusions about larger groups or phenomena. Secondly, she's comparing foolish kids to church leaders. She KNOWs the church as a whole doesn't teach what she is upset about, and yet, she makes it her mission to take down the church as a whole.
First off, HOW DOES A FIRST GRADER KNOW THEY ARE GAY!!?? That is not something they should even be thinking about for another decade AT LEAST and so that speaks to OTHER problems besides bullying. Second, kids of any group would act like that at that age and it is okay for adults teach kids not to bully. But you should ALSO teach kids to not worry about their sexuality at that age.
OMG that woman says so many things that in my personal life are never true!!! I am Honduran, I joined the church when I was 15, in the young women's classes they prepared us to get married but also to study. Now I am 33 years old, I am a mother of 4 children and I am also a surgeon here in the United States, Absolutely ALL of my friends also went to college, they are mothers but also lawyers, dentists, journalists, music teachers. I feel so sorry for that woman, I don't know the circumstances in which she lived caused her a lot of harm or it could also be that she wanted to live a life according to her will and now in order to excuse herself from that life she blames the Church and its rules BUT WE MUST REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE NOT THE RULES OF THE CHURCH BUT THEY ARE THE RULES OF CHRIST!!!! we only have to look at the general authorities of The Primary , The Young Women and The Relief Society, ALL of those sisters have a college degree, So The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the church that most empowers women and I personally love that about this Church of Christ.
There is no Salvation outside of Jesus Christ. He Is Salvation. Believe the Gospel of Salvation preached by Apostle Paul found in Corinthians. No one can go to The Father except through Jesus Christ, THE Door of Life which is so narrow. The blood of Jesus Christ atoned for ALL SIN, Hebrews 11:6 “But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.” Christ Jesus promised that those who believe on Him for Salvation SHALL BE saved for ALL eternity, that they will {immediately} be Sealed by That Holy Spirit of Promise unto the Day of Salvation. You do not, cannot merit salvation, earn salvation, lose salvation, DESERVE salvation, undo salvation, because Jesus Christ said God desires ALL to be saved and tgat salvation is so simple that even a little child can understand and believe. Jesus Christ is Not Satan's brother. Jesus Christ CREATED Lucifer who is Satan/Enemy. Jesus Christ IS GOD, The Holy Spirit IS GOD, Father GOD IS GOD, Satan is a fallen angel who covered GOD.
And what is also a problem, they cannot even show where things took place geographically, on a map. For example, where is Judea, where is Egypt, where is the Sea of Galilea, where's SLC, where's Nauvoo, and Wintr Quarters, ... and there's so much more.
Thanks for this message. I have always known the statement "No other success can compensate for failure in the home.” originated with David O McKay. Because it was stated in this video that it was a quote from James E. McCulloch, I did some research and found it did originate from a book by J.E. McCulloch in1924. Very interesting.
I find this young female youtuber to be contemptible. Yes, all of us have & can find people who have been revolting in their behaviour. However I find it interesting how negative & absolute she is regarding EVERYTHING negative in LDS people. This can be done in the Catholic church, most work places, & innumerable situations. People are people. All teachers aren't wrong because some are revolving, all doctors aren't wrong because some are only driven by prestige or money. The gospel is NOT the church. The gospel is the Lord's doctrines & principles given to us to assist us to perfect (the process of improvement) ourselves. The church, is a body of people, and by design are flawed and deeply fallible. Some of whom are revolving by nature yes! I have experienced my fair share. However others are splendid, extraordinary & spectacular, they are the ones I focus on & seek out. She seems quite immature and self focused at this point in her journey 🙏, & sadly destructive 😢.
Thank for your broadcast. I have seen Alissa Grendeld’s channel before too and it just breaks my heart that she is so bitter. I can’t imagine the crappy feelings she must have to be so negative against the church. Obviously she has no clue. She’s like others who are deceived by the fluff! And I’m sure she feels off the others who thrive on bitterness. It reminds me of someone criticizing a car whose seatbelts are too tight, or the steering wheel is cold. Maybe the seats aren’t comfortable either, but the point they miss is that the engine runs perfectly and it’s going to take them to the places they need to go. She’s no better than anyone who judges the gay/lesbian/trans for their actions. The point is…the person inside that body is a beautiful person who is a child of God who is valuable!! The point is, the gospel of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Days is a perfect gospel. The Book of Mormon is true and so is the Bible. I feel sorry for her the day she realizes the depth of her actions😢
"Parents have a sacred duty to rear their children in love and righteousness, to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, and to teach them to love and serve one another, observe the commandments of God, and be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Husbands and wives-mothers and fathers-will be held accountable before God for the discharge of these obligations." From what I see there's going to be a buttload of parents being punished for simply failing to educate their neanderthal children & sticking them in front of phones & tablets their whole childhood instead. If you haven't yet realized that not meeting your child's spiritual needs is abuse... it is. (And tearing down some kid's faith while you are an adult that's not their parent is also abuse & should be punished by law! Your teacher nor your friend's parent should be allowed to groom you as a minor into believing that your family's faith is false. Absolutely despicable behavior.)
I HEAVILY relate to the 17 year old girl. I'm at a similar age and this year I had my own crisis that lead to depression. And let me tell you, it was not working with my therapist that truly helped me (granted, I don't think she was the right therapist for me), but reading the book of Mormon daily and praying to God to help me even when I was leaning athiest that brought me peace. That peace is what kept me in the gospel. It works, and leaning on Christ will give you joy. If you're reading this comment Bailey, I'm so glad you've decided to stay. It is worth it and God is proud of you ❤
Thank you for sharing!!
Wonderful!
@@Jeanie-nv7lo Oh yeah, I've been listening to Saints Unscripted for three years and I've also joined Uplift. I do need to find the time for books though.
God is the best therapist
I think that we should all be proud of her because it takes a lot of strength to do what she did and I also went through the same process of falling away from the church for 25 years. I went to a lot of different churches and did a lot of crazy and often stupid and empty things in my life. I left when I was in my 20s because of a number of reasons including a failed relationship with someone in the church. I was excommunicated so it was even more painful for me. Trying to get back in the church now I sometimes feel like I’m damaged. I’m in my 50s now and I have children of my own and I desperately want the things that I was not able to have so I am trying to be a good example for them, but I totally understand what it feels like to be young, and feel like you don’t fit in to people in the church. There are a number of people that were in the church then, and are in the church now just don’t get it. They are blindly following without understanding what they are following or why. I think this is extremely dangerous and foolish. I have a strong testimony of Jesus Christ and the book of Mormon based upon lessons I have learned in life and things that I have personally sought out. This is why so many people think that Mormons are a cult and not an actual church of Jesus Christ. Because people act like they’re in a cult. The problem with the church is not the church, it’s people who have an incomplete understanding and a lack of true faith.
Add me to the group of returning to church. I was rebaptized on April 20th, 2024. The world has nothing to offer. There is a difference between happiness and joy. True joy is found in Christ and His church.
Yes, The Church. We keep encountering prople who claim they can be spiritually close to Christ but not religious with The Church as if that's better. _Nothing could be further from The Truth and the scriptures do not support it_ . Jesus gave us The Church in Acts Chapter 2 and it continues through The Book of Mormon and The Doctrine and Covenants. We recieve Jesus and The Father by recieving His designated servants. Matthew 10: 40. We cannot become perfected in Christ without *_His Church!_* .
Love your name!!!!
Welcome back, brother Matt 🩵
Way awesome! What you did is a tremendous act of courage - congrats...
Add me to the group who left the church for almost 20 years and regretted it. Lived a life of drug and alcohol abuse, bad choices, and unhappiness. Came back a few years ago and brought my family back with me. Happiest I’ve been since I was a child. Always have hope for the people in your life that they will find happiness.
God bless you for sharing this.
@@thisisfun887 Good for you for getting away from substance abuse (I've been there and it's a miserable way to live). All I'm saying is that many people are happy in the church, but many people are not. The narrative that happiness only comes from the church is just patently false. Also, kids who hear this but end up leaving (and it's a fact that many are) will stay in out of fear of disappointing their parents. This leads to cognative dissadence, which leads to anger and resentment and broken family relationships. I have multiple family members (siblings and inlaws) who don't believe anymore and are only staying in because they don't want to disappoint parents. I can see the dissonance and unhappiness building in them (they always seem to be angry). It's sad.
@jkaccounting defining happiness you are seeking is key in why we say true happiness lies within the covenant making and keeping sacred ordinances with Christ and living the tenents of the true Gospel in its purest form towards exaltation as best we can. If you define happiness differently what does that mean and where does it take you?
@@alisarichardsramirezmusic2233 I understand what your saying, but it has not been true for me (and many others), and I've never been happier. I know what i believe and why, and I'm experiencing more guidance and spiritual experiences than ever. Again saying that true happiness and joy only exists in the church is black and white thinking that just doesn't hold up to people's lived experiences.
You're better than me my friend. I never did any of that before. But I know if I did, I wouldn't have the strength to come back. Much respect to you 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I am a convert. What I wouldn't give to have had parents who were married in the Temple and taught me the fullness of the gospel. How I wish I grew up going to primary and to young men's and later had gone on a mission. What a blessing to grow up in an active LDS home! Never throw away the best thing in your life!
My mother felt the same as you when she became a member in her 20’s back in the early 80’s. She would have done anything to have a stable home, where mom and dad even though not violent drunks were *always* inebriated, who would have taken her to church more often than Christmas/Easter time to learn more of God, to have had the priesthood in her home, and to know that God guides her and protects her. She’s said often she wishes she was taught about being chaste, and the divine purpose of the powers of procreation. She’s never looked back at her secular cult she belonged to before joining the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I’m happy she made that decision, along with my at the time ex-Mormon dad, to fix their lives and create a lasting family bond.
Totally agree. I'm a late convert.
Same convert here. They do the it for granted and give up their birth right for porridge. And they don't notice the power they have because it's all they have known
I have a good friend who is in her 60s. She grew up devout Catholic and went to a Catholic school with nuns and everything. She converted to the gospel as an adult. She feels emotional thinking about what she missed, not growing up in the church. She has expressed it almost as if it isn't fair that she did not know, did not get to go to primary or the youth program. My husband has expressed similarly, he converted at 18, he was in an abusive home. It really opens my heart to being grateful for my upbringing, even though I'm from a broken home. Primary, YWs, church was an amazingly important part of my upbringing and my life. I am so grateful for it and love to kind of ponder if I had never had it, iykwim.
You may be better off. I joined at 17 with only negative influence about the church beforehand. I had to fight for my testimony and have been a DAILY reader of the BoM for 45 years. People who disregard and neglect the BoM are in peril regardless if they were born into or converted to the church. The spiritual and physical blessings are countless.
Stay in the fight.
Oh my gosh, I saw this woman’s channel and blocked it immediately. As a women who was led astray from the Church based on the lie of modern feminism, I can tell you that this battle is deep, prolific, and comes from every possible angle. We MUST be vigilant, and surround our children on equal measure as the Adversary is.
Before the gospel, my life was a total train wreck, darkness, bad decisions, and I was totally lost. I am a Jewish convert of 41 years. Everything good thing in my life came from that decision to be baptized. I've had a million trials, but all along the way I prayed, read the Book of Mormon, attended all my church meetings, attended the temple, fulfilled my callings, served, etc. I had many reasons to leave the church based on the decisions and actions of others. I made tons of mistakes along the way. But following the principles of the gospel, taking personal responsibility, and repenting daily has yielded delicious fruit, millions of blessings, answers to prayers, and a sure knowledge of the reality and divinity of Jesus Christ being the Savior of the world. It is worth everything, the good, the bad, and everything in between. Anchor yourself to the truth and when the storms of satan come, you'll be strong and steadfast. Thank you for this podcast!!
I was the kid who was ostracized and bullied for being gay when I wasn't gay. It's not anti gay, it's just jerk kids being jerk kids. I survived it and came through because I had a strong testimony.
Thank God and your fortitude!
That happened to me too. Sometimes kids are just mean, no matter what the cultural background is for the community they live in. 🤷♀️
saaaaame!!!
@@amynazzaI was usually bullied and abused by the inactive kids or the non member's. They didn't have guidance at home , so they were mean and abusive. Yes I am from UT county. Kids/ Teens can be jerks.
We did, for many years. FHE, Come Follow Me, BOM, Bible, etc etc…..One by one, they went inactive. BUT…..they know what we’ve taught them, we keep our relationships with them strong and the bridge between us short so when they do return, it won’t be too far of a journey. For now, my wife and I continue to read, magnify our callings and study everyday. It keeps our faith strong. ❤️
Hang in there, we are experiencing the same with our three children. It’s hard and heartbreaking for us. I love hearing stories of those returning to the gospel. It gives us hope.
@@tealkbc1 will do and same to you 🙂 it’s a long road and hard to watch, but we know all will be right one day. I’m in our bishopric and SO many parents experiencing the same thing.
Four of my siblings went through this and are all back now and so so strong. 💛 Those experiences with the spirit and knowledge of the truth never really leave for most of us who have experienced that.
I think this is one of THE most important comments here. Our efforts don’t always translate to children who don’t fall away. The Plan of Redemption requires agency.
We never missed church, we had daily scripture study, all three boys went on missions and then promptly left the church. It has been 20 years and there's been no change in their interest in the gospel. The only thing that gives me some hope is that Alma the younger, wasn't young when he saw that angel. He was an older man.
I was an exMormon and regretted it. But at the time I was just like her and made many videos just like her. But deleted all of them, because fighting against The Church was a complete waste of time.
I hope you follow the example of Alma and the sons of Mosiah who after they converted they used the same skills they used to fight against the church to then fight in favor of it and their new found faith
Good for you! I’m so glad to have you back, you bring a special testimony and light to the church that does not go unnoticed by God ❤
Welcome back brother Sean 🩵
@@SeanLayton 💛💛💛💛💛
I grew up in the church and I left in my early twenties. I have never regretted a decision as much as leaving the church of Jesus Christ. Coming back into the church will always be the best thing I ever did for myself.
10:43 Wait a minute... "I've never met an ex-Mormon who regrets leaving the Church." That statement is just a tautological fallacy. Of course you haven't met an ex-Mormon who regrets leaving the Church. If they regret leaving, they are probably just going to come back to the Church. In short, a regretful ex-Mormon isn't going to be an ex-Mormon for very long, except maybe in a few rare cases. She just made a statement that is true by definition but doesn't actually tell us anything. It's like saying "I've never met a cat-hater who doesn't hate cats." Great, that's the definition of a cat-hater, if you met one who doesn't hate cats, then they aren't a cat-hater.
It's also an appeal to anecdotal evidence, which is an informal fallacy.
I am an ex-Mormon who regrets leaving the church, although my circumstances were somewhat unique. I wish that I had not made some of the mistakes that I made, but we all have to go through a learning process in order to appreciate what we have lost. She is expressing her personal opinion which should never be confused with. It sounds to me like she has surrounded herself with bitter negative angry people. If that’s all you have around you, then you’re basically in an echo chamber, full of angry, bitter people, and you’re not going to hear any other opinion, except bitter and angry ones
Honesty is not a strong part of this mentality - but let me qualify that. It's not that she, or those in the similar mindset are lying outright, but they've reframed everything mentally in ways that justify their decision. It's a form of internal lie that allows them to believe these lies they've created. For example, the bit about women not having careers a reframed memory on the teachings of the importance of families. I'm 60 yo, and when I joined the Church at age 14, the idea that women should only be homemakers was pretty much gone from any manual or public talks. Sure, it is always the ideal situation, but even then, the economy was rough and having a family was difficult. My wife and I made the decision that she would stay home with our children, and we had to work and sacrifice to make that happen - particularly while a young airman in the USAF making less than minimum wage in the early 80s. More than half the families in every ward I've lived in had dual incomes.
I began to notice this process when I started having young women in our stake totally misrepresent lessons they had in Stake Youth Conferences - I was in Stake YM and in those classes. I listened to several of these now adult women talk about the lesson and it's like a completely different lesson. They had reinterpreted it to something completely different.
A bit part of this is the progressive movement in our culture that the youth are being completely infected with. It frames everything as trauma and turns everyone they ever knew as toxic.
The church has always encouraged education
@@bjtaylor4360 Just don't confuse education with schooling.
Life is hard, real and complicated. As a Mormon youth, I pretty much had to figure it all out for myself as my parents were mostly inactive but both had LDS heritage. Ricks College & RM roommates helped me find a path to stay out of trouble. Met a nice girl and we both decided we wanted an eternal family. We set goals to keep the Lord with us, learn & follow the doctrine, stay faithful to the end with daily prayer, scripture and weekly FHE. Made friends and served faithfully in many callings. We are now celebrating 50 years together!
We raised 10 children who are still best friends with one another even though 3 no longer do church. It's a whole different world now for our 30 grandchildren: 2 are gender confused, others distracted in vanity and a few excited about missions. Being retired, we do a lot of Temple now and find immeasurable joy in serving and being served. We have high hopes that eventually the cousins will see what creates differences among them and most will eventually chose the higher road for themselves. The scriptures, especially the Book of Mormon, is proving to be more prophetic every day so we share what we can that the light might more clearly be seen through us. Our faith is that eventually the Lord will bring us all together again and covenants will be fulfilled.
I mean I’m not from Utah or the west. But I have my doubts about her honesty- especially after she BULLIED BALLERINA FARMS FUNERAL FOR HER FATHER. One of the most disgusting things I’ve ever seen. Furthermore I’d bet that even in Utah, gay students are able to get away with being bullies while claiming victimhood. Not saying that was the case but that I completely do not trust her honesty as someone who goes out of her way to mock and bully members of the church.
Yes Jack, read the Book of Mormon daily and you and all who follow the prophet will make better decisions every day! Good video for parents and youth.
Yeah. Something about that story didn't smell right. I'd believe it if it were from my generation 25 years ago, but a bunch of Zoomers doing that? I'm skeptical.
Yeah, the more I think about it, the less sense that story makes. If I heard her correctly, she said she was teaching first grade. Grade 1 age kids are 5-6 years old, usually. First of all, how do they even know that homophobic slur, much less what it means, especially if they are from LDS families? Latter-Day Saints are notorious for not using foul language, so wherever they learned that is not from Latter-Day Saints. Second of all, she says that this kid is gay. When he's 5 or 6, at most 7? How? How is that possible? Sexual orientation starts emerging at around the start of puberty, which could be from age 9 to 14. How could this kid possibly know his sexual orientation, and how could that possibly have been made common knowledge among his peers?
And she was the teacher! It's not like she was powerless to do anything about homophobic behavior in a group of first graders, right? She talks as though she was just a bystander to this bad behavior who could only do so much to put an end to it, though that may not be the reality.
And finally, while behaviors that can be interpreted as "suicidality" can be observed as early as 3 years old, it's extremely rare, and even with kids ages 5-7, it's typically the result of emotional distress caused by severe trauma (like the loss of a primary caregiver, neglect, abuse) or unusually intense mental illness. If this was indeed a first grader who tried to kill himself, that suggests that he was dealing with something far worse than his classmates being mean to him because he is gay (keeping in mind that there's no reason to expect a kid that age to have any idea of his sexual orientation).
The story just doesn't make sense. It's not impossible, but if it is true, then it's an extremely abnormal occurrence with extremely uncommon factors playing into it. Not the sort of thing that can be blamed on "Mormons".
Plus, assigning a single cause to suicidality is not only not possible, but it's extremely unwise. Suicide is too complex a phenomenon to explain any given suicide with a single cause. And people are usually advised against it, as it can cause a social contagion where a number of copycat suicides follow.
So on all accounts, her anecdote (if true) is not really something that can be blamed on "Mormonism", and it's actually counterproductive to blame it on the Church if what one cares about is preserving the lives of gay kids. Of course, it's not unlikely that that's not what she cares about, and what she really cares about is doing as much damage to the Church and to people's testimonies as possible, in which case blaming the Church for this sort of thing isn't counterproductive.
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@@matthewsmith5967 I think she said "first year", which I think either indicates Grade 7 or Grad 10 depending on whether it is Junior High or High School (if that still how it works in the USA). If it really was a Grade 1 class, then I'd say she's just making the whole thing up.
That poor, sweet young lady😔.
I absolutely agree that we as parents need to be involved and honest with our children. My girls have friends who left church because of church history so I have educated my kids in every aspect I understand about the history and how imperfect things and people are and how some false doctrine is part of the sifting process as mentioned by Bruce R McConkie. I share my testimony daily and remind my kids that the church is an ongoing restoration. Every parent also needs to educate their children on anti mormon channels and how to identify without watching.
This part will be a trigger...I know. However, modesty should be taught to both boys and girls. Teaching modesty is not shaming. Telling girls they have to wear as little as possible to be loved IS shaming. Modest Dress absolutely influences how we feel about ourselves and how we want others to see us.
This! Huge truth in this!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
If you love yourself and your body you wont seek attention and so called love from others.
Gone are the days where we could simply ignore "antis". Thanks for making this channel and addressing these attacks directly.
I was baptized in the church at 8 years old. Drifted away after my dad died shortly after I was baptized. I lived a life of sin and was addicted to heroin. I had kids and struggled working multiple jobs without their dad's in their life to help financially or otherwise. I met my husband 4 years ago who is also in recovery. He went thru the temple 4 years ago and I did about 2 years ago. We are getting married in the temple and take our children to church.
Though I still struggle with human things I know that God loves me and my family along with every other human and living thing on the planet. I have SEEN how it has changed my life and I am terrified with how the world is going right now. My kids are ages 2-14 and some of the things they hear and see at school or search online it is just so scary. I need to do better studying the scriptures with my kids.
14 But Zion said, The Lord hath forsaken me, and my Lord hath forgotten me.
15 Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee.
16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.
Isaiah 49
Thank you for sharing your story❤️
You got this mama! I know it's so hard, but coming from a kid who's mom made it a point NO MATTER WHAT to study the scriptures as a family and have devotionals together every day - it's so worth it that is the greatest gift my mom gave me with all her imperfections I am SO blessed and call her blessed for her spiritual lessons she taught to us every day through the scriptures. 💛 Its worth it! And Jesus Christ is there to help and make up the difference when we fall short. Much love!
You're doing great! Don't be hard on yourself - that's the adversary talking. Just keep trying and your children will be blessed and will learn, even if you miss reading at times. God sees your efforts and heart and your kids do too.
What an amazing story. Glad to have you back. Remember us repenting and needing the atonement wasn’t the backup plan. It was THE plan! Christ loves you for the progress you’ve made. Don’t ever forget that. So great to have you with us in the church. All of us are broken and prone to wander. All the best dear sister!
Everything she states is NOT church doctrine. None of it.
I'm a convert and joined when I was 18. My parents raised me with good values but no God or church. I got into drugs and alcohol. I bounced from rehab to treatment center and reform schools. I came to one in Utah, and seeing light in the Latter-day Saints gave me hope. I knew they had what I wanted. I am so grateful to have joined. It breaks my heart seeing people leave. I wish I could have my family in this with me, and go to the temple with my mum. It is the most beautiful thing!
Right? It truly is. I wish everyone could see how incredible the gospel light is (including some members who dont realize what they have so they don't live it).
Been a member all my life, worked my way into management at UPS before I got married. Also a member of the military, retired in 2022 after 36 years as a LTC. I have a master's degree in Organizational Management. I have two step daughters and two sons, at no point during my lifelong membership did any one from the church tell me I should have stayed home and not get an education. Cracks me up to hear people accuse the church of this! They're dead wrong I'm living proof!
I work full time. Most of the women at church have degrees and work. I think as I live outside of the states it’s easy for people living in Utah to think that the LDS culture there is normal and the same all over the world. In most places LDS members are the minority. We all have work to do to become better people and make better choices. It’s easy to associate peoples bad choices and different opinions as all encompassing of the church as a whole. Thanks for the reminder of what my kids are up against. Constancy in living the gospel and developing our relationships with Christ is essential, knowledge is key and seeking the spirit so we act in the best way possible for our individual circumstances.
Thank you for the encouraging words! I am a mom of 5 (2 teenagers) and my a husband is in the military and has been gone since May. Holding down the spiritual fort while he is away can be hard sometimes, but your video gave me encouragement for the coming week - to be diligent with our family gospel study. It’s the most important thing I can do with my children.
I have subscribed to all the faith-building LDS channels on UA-cam I can find, and it really helps me keep an eternal perspective and encourage me to be diligent in the gospel and my covenants.
Also, my 14yo son really likes your videos, especially the ones on Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon. It has been good for him to see young men like the Paul brothers proclaim the truth, defend the faith, and bear testimony. Keep up the good work!
Father of 5 and also Active Duty. Truthfully, I can’t help but feel that those of us in military wards and branches have the best of the best. The Church is small, but even more tight-knit in the Military and especially in the specific branch of the service we are in.
Because of the Church of Jesus Christ, I am trying to fix all those broken parts of me that would belittle my brothers and sisters. Because of the Savior, I am a better man than I was yesterday. Christ is real, and WILL heal all of us, if we let Him.
I'm a convert of eight years and have been a public school teacher in New England for 25 years. In my area of New England, very few people go to church ... any church, including the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In all of my years and having taught a couple thousand students, I've only had four who were LDS. I've seen gay students picked on throughout those years, especially boys who are gay, and they weren't picked on by the four LDS students I had.
I've noticed the same thing. My nephew is gay and gets bullied plenty and he's atheist. But he also does plenty of his own bullying. He's by far not innocent
@@StompMom5 - I wish bullying didn't exist, but it does ... in so many different ways.
I feel sorry for her right now.. praying her return to church one day.having a deeper understanding of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
@@nanetteiglupas7838 Agreed. I pray that day comes quickly. I would not want to contribute to making someone doubt his or her faith. I'm concerned for her, as she says that's her goal.
Yes! Whether it’s Alyssa G or Michelle Stone, or any number of “tempters” in and out (or soon to be out) of the church we must be vigilant! The adversary uses many tactics to deceive. Many don’t notice until too late.
At some point, everyone confronts his or her faith (faith = the religious word for confidence). Nephi did it. Peter did it. Joseph son of Jacob did it. Mary did it. Sarah did it. Abraham did it. Joseph Smith did it. My dad did it. I did it. Jesus did it. Welcome to the party, Bailey.
Confidence / faith is ephemeral. Can't see it. Can't touch it. Can't smell it. But, it is the most powerful thing in the Universe ... kind of like love. And, when you have it, not even a 100 mph fast-ball can intimidate you. Nephi had it. Peter got it. Joseph had it. Mary had it. Jesus has it. Bailey will get it. You go girl.
Thanks for sharing! That is a great thought!
I have been a lifelong member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and my wife and I were married in the Manti Temple in 2001. I can say how important it is to have faith in Jesus Christ and always keep in mind that there is opposition in all things. My biggest challenge in life has been struggling financially. It has been hard for me to find employment to keep me and my wife financially stable. I know that is more temporal than spiritual, but things are difficulty when you don't know how to pay for things. I know that God understands us more then we understand ourselves I know it is also important to attend the temple regularly. We are blessed to live in Leeds, Utah where we are only a half-hour from either the St. George Utah Temple or the Red Cliffs Utah Temple. I have a goal to attend the temple once a week. I am hoping to serve as an ordinance worker on Saturdays at the Red Cliffs Utah Temple.
Sacrifice brings blessings…. They will come. 🙏🏻
Awesome! We live in hurricane so we were so excited for the Red Cliffs temple 🥳
I was able to take a lot of pictures of the construction of The Red Cliffs Utah Temple. It was kind of fun seeing the Temple being built.
Awesome video! As a father of 7 children, I was amazed at Jaxon’s wisdom here and it resonated very strongly with me. Great advice! I have stepped up my study as Jaxon said so that I can really teach my kids from the spirit. Satan is working hard on my kids and I need to step up. It can’t be a half hearted effort to teach the kids the restored gospel.
God bless you brother
Being a parent in these times is so difficult. I often feel like I'm failing. I remind myself that my Father in Heaven didn't put me here to fail. So long as I'm doing my best, he'll make up the rest.
Absolutely! (: Jesus Came!!
My brother was inactive in the church for most of his daughter's lives and didn't really even talk to them about the Gospel. About a year ago, he reactivated and has been making up for lost time. His daughters (16 and 18) have been very receptive. It's not too late to start doing what you should be doing. Don't be discouraged and think that you've already failed. You only fail if you never start.
Everyone needs to watch this. Separating Christs pure doctrine/gospel from imperfect human behavior is a skill we all need to develop. Thanks for the reminder!🔥🔥
The gospel teaches us to be good stewards. The Proclamation on the Family is still the ideal, but leaves open for our personal circumstances. Both parents should build and foster healthy loving and spiritual relationships with their children. Both fathers and mothers will be held accountable for the discharge of their stewardship. The church has always taught that we should learn as much as possible in this life. I have so much more to say on this topic. But, I will end with this one thought. History of any group of people is not perfect. Maybe it would be good for all of us to evaluate or own flaws. Often times we are quick to see the mote in someone else without reflecting on the beam within our own eye.
This young woman is bitter and angry. I have deep empathy for her. I pray that she will find peace in her life.
Had my parents not read with me the scriptures, I’d be dead now. I’m sure of it.
The difference in a home where scripture and gospel discussions are a rarity versus a home where they are common, natural, and expected is immeasurable. ❤
“No success can compensate for failure in the home” Pres David O McKay
A great warning for husband and wife to be actively engaged in raising their own children. 😊
President McKay said no success can compensate for failure in the home! Not sure if that other guy quoted him or vice versa
Bullying hasn’t been a problem for years. It’s been a problem for centuries. High has had jerks for decades. The problem in utah is alot of the jerks are also LDS. You go anywhere else outside big Mormon hubs and you’ll see absolutely terrible bullying
I am a returning member. She is so wrong...oh so woefully wrong. Is she the same chick that makes fun of the temple ceremonies? I would not want to be her.
This is the one. My wife is a nice person, literally the nicest person I have ever met (complete opposite of myself in these matters), she won’t even say hateful things of Satan 😂. But when she saw AG’s shorts on our garments and temple clothing she lost it at the complete mockery coming from AG. She was FURIOUS anyone would do this, couldn’t fathom the complete dishonesty involved in what AG posts. I had to calm her down and it took a while. Later we both looked at each other and realized what we’re up against. I’ve known for a while that the lies in the Internet were bad, but this content attacking us is meant to infect our kids (real adults know TikTok is 99% mostly mind mush and almost never worthy of being taken seriously) but kids are not capable of seeing it right away as the mental midgetry that is is. 😢
@@dcarts5616 yes. Children and young people are absolutely 100% the targets now. The adversary has re-doubled and even tripled his effort to destroy families and to destroy the minds and hearts of children, teenagers, and young single adults. It is a constant battle for me with my kids to help them. Keep a good perspective and think for themselves while also still, trying to pass along gospel principles to them. I have made a lot of mistakes in my own life so I may not be able to tell someone how to live their life but I sure as heck. Tell them how to not live one. If you can pick up anything bad other than murdering someone, in my lifetime I have probably done it, which is why I am in such great need of the Lord mercy and understanding, and why he has been so liberal and giving me wisdom and patience. If anything, after all that I have been through and done, the blessings of being allowed to become a parent and teach others so that they will not make my mistakes has been an epiphany for me, and a privilege. It’s also a massive responsibility and I see the young young people like this woman who are poisoning the well water out of spite. In my opinion, that’s all it is. They are angry and bitter, and they have not learned to let go of their anger or bitterness yet because they surround themselves with other people who are angry and bitter, which is like a swimming pool full of piranha. You’re never going to get a different opinion because they will be devoured instantly. It’s weird because I’ve never seen such hatred and animosity towards any other church inside the United States. I have attended services at many different churches, and there will always be bigotry, sexism, racism, and religious tolerance, but I’ve never seen such animosity as that which comes from those who are ex-members of the church. They literally cannot let it alone. They don’t move on with their lives and just say oh well I don’t believe that and I’m gonna do something different. Instead, they make it their lives mission to target the church and everyone who belongs to the church. Believe me, I have more than enough cause to hate the church from when I was young, but I don’t. Because I know that the church is legitimate and that the teachings are true. I know that the sacred things contained in the book of Mormon are true and real. I know that those people actually live in the Americas. I have artifacts in my possession personally that I have found. So I know that it’s all real. Even without ever having a shred proof, the amazing teachings contained within the book of Mormon have convinced me that it is sincere. If you see those words, and you know the Lord and how he is… you know they came from the Lord. I get it to debates and arguments all the time with people online and I finally have just stopped. Because I know that you could literally hand them the gold plates and they wouldn’t believe they were real. An angel could appear to them and they would deny it. They had the spirit of Lehman and Lemuel. They had the spirit of open rebellion and resistance. Until things have happened to them in their lives that humble them they will never change their perspective. I think at this point we have to stand up and defend our beliefs on an individual basis. People will say that I am defending Church and I say I am defending what I believe personally happens to align with what the church teaches and also what is contained within the book of Mormon. Because that’s what it is. That’s why we are told to develop and cultivate a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and keep the Holy Spirit close to us. Because it’s necessary for our personal individual survival. On top of that I have to worry about my kids who are teenagers now and probably at their most vulnerable.
The power of the Book of Mormon, another testament of Jesus Christ 🙏 ❤
I love hearing all the testimonies in the comments! I have a couple of uncles who left the Church for misguided reasons, and I hope someday they remember what they’re missing.
I was off & on in the church for about 15 years. I always believed in Jesus, though many things didn't make sense to me inside the church. I always wanted to find the truth. I am so grateful that I came back to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I don't agree with everything leaders claim, though I also believe that a prophet is only a prophet when he speaks as a prophet, just as Joseph Smith said.
We are all just doing our best to follow our Savior to the best of our own understanding & accepting that each of us have our own journey that Jesus is leading us through is a necessity for this life.
Thank you so much for this video.
I have taught many youth in my life about the principles & let them live as their conscious dictates. After having my own children, that didn't seem to be enough. Though I need to accept that only God & his son, our Savior Jesus Christ, can lead them if they too choose to search as I did when I was younger.
I simply must put my trust in the Lord to keep them safe & trust that if I give it my best effort, he will fill the gaps.
(Pt. 2) Our homes can be mini MTC's. Have Gospel artwork around, and when your kid's friend's ask, "What is that picture about?" Kids can give a simple response or testimony (First Vision, Christ in America, Lehi's Dream, etc.), the friend will know a little bit more and that we do worship Christ and your child will see how easy it can be to share the gospel in a natural way.
*(Ideas from Diana Hoelscher, that I mentioned in Pt 1.)[Her experiences are so powerful!] ❤
You guys in USA become soft and diving up your HOLY FAITH so easy! The Church of Jesus Christ is worth fighting for ,it' s history based on blood of best people on earth. satsn fighting hard to twart this Work fight back we'll prevail! No unhallowed hand can stop this Gospel from establishing on earth!
I have been wanting to offer more of truly DAILY living the gospel to my kids and this just reinvigorated me. We have so little time with them & I've been wanting to jump in. This just gave me the push I've been needing.
I am from Mexico & I joined the Church in 1975, I went through hell bc my entire family cut me off for leaving the Catholic Church. A lot of racism in my ward/stake against Mexicans, a lot of fighting. Suffering continued when I left on my mission. I followed Pres. Kimball’s counsel as well as my bishop about marrying “within my race & socio-economic background 😢.” As a result, my children and I have suffered much abuse but I did the very best to teach them the Gospel and give them a foundation in Christ such as I had had. The Gospel has been my anchor, I know things/people won’t always be awful like this. But my sadness grows as my children-all served missions, all married in the temple- are going totally left wing, one has left the Church. Why did I ever join the Church? I don’t want to be in a kingdom where my children are not. Heaven only knows what will happen to my beautiful grandchildren 😭
Dont despair! Jesus says he is not done until he has saved all the works of his hands. Also did you know that the final judgment is not until the end of the millennium. Don't lose hope! Satan wants you to give up, don't allow him to win.
Continue to be who you are… And understand that everything you have been through in your life has been for a greater purpose. This sounds to some people, but I can tell you that because of the faith of my mother I ended up coming back to the church after being away for over 20 years. I never actually hated the church but at one point I turned my back completely on it and wasn’t even sure that I believed in God anymore until I finally had a remarkable and miraculous and very sacred experience, when a missionary was giving me a blessing. I had not been around the church for a while and I was in the military, and some missionaries came onto our base. While that missionary was laying his hands upon me and giving me a blessing that I asked, I had what I can only describe as a personal revelation that was extremely powerful. I can’t go into the details here because it’s too sacred, but I can tell you that all things have a purpose. Don’t give up on your children and don’t give up on your grandchildren. Because my mother did not give up I ended up coming back to the church. I am now teaching my children, who are Catholic to pray, to believe in Christ and have a personal relationship with him, I read the book of Mormon as well as the Bible to them. We watch a TV series called The Chosen together. They are good kids, and I am so proud of them. As a father, I am trying to be the kind of father to them that my father never was to me. I use Christ and heavenly father as my template and try to do my best. Don’t let some people do steer you off of the path that you were already on because that is always what the enemy does. They use people close to us to hurt us the most. That is what Satan is very good, he enjoys the knife and causing as much pain and damage as possible. I have gained a great deal of wisdom over the last 20 years and I am a better person for it, and I have the school teachers of my children, telling me how great my kids are, and when I have leadership from the church telling me to not give up or despair, how can I? There was a given by a couple of years ago. I’m going to look it up and come back here and post a link to it and I think you should watch it because it was powerful and so meaningful to me on a personal level.as a parent, as a son, as a grandson and as a child of God, I urge you to just pray pray pray, and don’t ever give up. Endure to the end and you will see the fruit upon the tree. I promise.
I'm not a suck up, and I'm certainly not a novice; but some of your interviews have blown my mind.
What did the apostate Alyssa do when the student who was harassed as the teacher? Did she try helping the student? Did she stand up for the student or let it slide? Were the bullies LDS? How does she know if the bullies are LDS? There are a just as many non-member students in Utah as LDS students. The hazing could have easily been from non-LDS students.
I know if this was happening around my LDS kids, they would stand up for the gay kid if he was bullied. Most good LDS kids would do the same and are taught the same. We teach to stand up to bullies and protect the weak. Alyssa isn't being intellectually honest about what the church and good parents actually teach.
Plus, unless I misheard her, this was a first grade class. Kids in the first grade are 5-6 years old, 7 at most. It's not like she would've been a bystander that was powerless to put a stop to uncharacteristically homophobic behavior in a group of kids that haven't even been alive for a decade yet.
That, and sexual orientation only BEGINS to be realized at around puberty. Even if we assume this kid was old for his grade and is 7 years old, the earliest we would normally expect him to go into puberty is 9 years old, and even then the range for the start of puberty is anywhere between 9 and 14 years old. I am skeptical of the idea that this first grader could have had any idea he was gay, much less that be common knowledge to his peers, since sexual orientation only begins to emerge at the beginning of puberty, and in some cases isn't fully apparent until well into their teenage years. I'm skeptical of the whole story in general, but if we assume that it's true, I'd hazard a guess that this kid's sexuality wasn't even close to being known, but one of his parents (probably his mother, statistically speaking) is a ravening narcissist who wants to have unearned moral virtue by being a mother of an LGBTQ kid, and so when her son said or did something that wasn't really weird or unexpected for a kid his age at all, she took whatever it was as a sign that he was gay and started telling him and his teachers and all her Facebook friends about it so she could feel good about being such an affirming mother to a gay child.
Maybe not though. But even if the story she told is 100% true, and somehow we can know with certainty that the kid was actually gay, the whole situation still can't be blamed on "The Mormons". It would be an extremely unfortunate and abnormal situation, and certainly not something that the doctrine of the Church would've caused. Saying that the cause of the suicide of LGBTQ kids is "Mormonism" isn't only not accurate, but it's actually unhelpful too. Speculation on the cause of a suicide is ill-advised, as it's not possible to narrow it down to a single cause (too complicated a phenomenon), and it can also lead to a social contagion where there would be a chain of copycat suicides. Blaming the Church is counterintuitive if she actually cares about the wellbeing of gay kids. Perhaps though, that's not what she cares about. Perhaps what she cares about is doing as much damage to the Church and the testimonies of its members as possible, in which case placing the blame on the Church wouldn't be counterintuitive in the slightest.
I grew up up in UT and graduated in the early 2000’s even then when I told people I wanted to just be a mom I was alone in that idea. As a mom of teens now I am the only mom I know- with only teens- who is still a stay at home mom. It is a stereotype that in my opinion hasn’t been true for over a decade.
It wasn't even true when I was growing up. But it was used as a good excuse to mock us. 😂
Love the encouragement to affirm the importance of the Gospel taught well in our homes
13:19 I wish more people had warned me about how sad my life would be in my older years for not having kids. I wish they had told me the importance of having kids in your old age. I was lied to by feminists. Not the church.
Thank you for this encouragement. I’ve been feeling so discouraged and overwhelmed today at the evil being called good all around us and feeling inadequate as to how to protect or better yet, empower my children. The second verse from Come, Come Ye Saints are coming to mind.
“Why should we mourn or think our lot is hard?
’Tis not so; all is right.
Why should we think to earn a great reward
If we now shun the fight?
Gird up your loins; fresh courage take.
Our God will never us forsake;
And soon we’ll have this tale to tell-
All is well! All is well!”
💛 love this!
She did not have a testimony. Because it sounded she left the Church because of what she heard about what happened in the church in the past.
These are the same type of people that will read the headlines of a news article, but not bother to investigate. What’s actually in the article itself. They are being suckered into baited hooks without understanding anything further or investigating. These are the people with shallow attention, spans that think they are so very clever, but in reality they aren’t.
How can fathers develope relationships with their children if the mother never becomes a mother?
It’s pretty clear if that’s what she really cared about then her content would have a whole different tone. But at this point, she just does it for the clicks and the money because mocking and making fun of us is infinitely more
worth it for her than helping people.
This is critical. It's why I even created my channel, to teach my kids the gospel. They listen to me better from the TV than in our lessons! Lol! But seriously, nothing is more important than teaching our kids the gospel from the scriptures and the prophets in general conference. It's taken awhile but they are really grasping the importance of learning the gospel and having scripture time and quiet time with the Lord!
Living the gospel, studying the scriptures and talking about our desires to follow and serve the Lord is important for us parents to do in order to be effective teachers. Teaching my kids to be patient and loving towards one another and their cousins and friends isn't very effective if we are bad talking and judging our neighbors and not patient with others ourselves. 😊
Misery loves company unfortunately. I had an old youth leader feed me anti material. I was 17 at the time. I didn't know he had left church. So what he was telling me i actually thought was true and just me in my young age and immaturity didn't know yet. It shook me abit. Until i started retelling this stuff to my dad, lucky he clued on and asked where i heard this. He swiftly put an end to this ex leader talking with me. Which for him might have been awkward because my dad was friends with this guy up until that point. I think it's really important we use discernment. If it feels off, question it, fact check it, get to the root of where this comes from. And i think that will go a long way in us discerning truth and light and its opposite.
I remember so many of my peers saying, "I don't want to be here because of how my parants suffered."
Looking at that, I realize in myself, do I love the Gospel, or do I just try to check boxes? Do I show that this Gospel brings me the most joy? Do I show my children that this is the place that gives peace and rest in the most trying times? Do I love it or do I just do that "one day a week mormon" life? We look at the Stripling Warriors, we will see that their Mothers knew it! What does that mean? They saw their Mother's live it! Because it was the way, the truth, the life! Most of the Stripling Warriors Fathers were killed bowing down in prayer in front of their enemies, because they knew it! They knew that living the Gospel was the only way. I believe their Mother's rejoiced in the sake of the Gospel and they taught their young Men how to live by living it them selves. I agree whole heartedly that we are the reason so many of our children leave. I can't say we are the sole reason, because we do have that agency to choose. Let us live lives that reflect the joy of the Gospel, as to show all of His Children that Christ is the only way!
First reaction to her comment about not being able to follow your dreams: I have seen some of that culturally, but myself never felt that. Im 57. I have 5 children. God has been telling me to be an artist and a writer since my youngest child was 2. I'm still working on following His advice. He has given me everything I've wanted or dreamed of. Thanks for this channel. We have to fight so hard today to share the truth. The gospel has brought great joy into my life even when I know the church is not perfect.
Yes the more positive truthful online content by faithful LDS creators the better. Jackson you will find out soon enough that doing all the right things as a parent is often not enough to overcome the overwhelming amount of online poisoning. You can literally promote any narrative you want on ticktock and it can literally be a complete fabrication . So not only do we need to protect against actual poor examples in the church, but we have to defend every false accusation from ex mos. Alyssa is a complete liar and an exaggerating bitter person with a vendetta to heap misery on anyone that disagrees with her impression of the church. Mark my words in 20 years you with be talking with your wife about what more could we have done to help our wayward child. No parents I know need a pep talk but we will take channels like stick of Joseph all day long to help thank you every minute of online content defending the church is huge
My brother was “less active” for thirty years. I’m a huge huge believer in prayer. My brother has come back and is very active and he and his beautiful wife have been sealed in the Oakland Temple. He’s much happier now. By the way, my brother baptized his wife, as he came back, he (and some lovely sister missionaries) converted her. ❤
Thank you… 🙏🏻…. you give us hope in our youth.
Even though reading scriptures and teaching our children doesn’t always keep them on the path we want them to be on… I at least know that if they ever want to return, they do know what the church is about ♥️
And honestly…. Shout out to primary songs… read scriptures and sing primary songs with kids and grandkids… everything I remember about Primary… I learned thru a primary song 🎶
No other success can compensate for failure in the home” Sep 30 1966. David O Mckay
I started reading the Book of Mormon every day with my kids when my oldest was 2. It took me a while to switch to come follow me and be good at it, but it came with persistence. As my oldest has become a teen now I am so grateful for all the time I put in. I can see the battle field pretty clearly. I see that even missing one day stirs up a battle with the enemy. It just needs to be a little bit everyday and it adds up quick! Time is moving so fast!!
I know Jesus is the living Christ and our Savior. I know The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints is God’s kingdom on the Earth today. I know the Book of Mormon is true and I can testify that it brings the spirit to our homes and lives and teaches more about Christ’s character.
Hey. Congratulations. 🎉🎉 The Stick of Joseph just passed Ward Radio Subscriber count with 33.3K Subs!!!
Ward radio is pretty obnoxious. Gotten worse since Jonah joined because he brutally attacks boomers in the comment section. So inappropriate!!
David Alexander who started off so great also goes over the top in his attacks. So sad!
Its so interesting to me about being bullied and labeling it as if the church is to blame...no its not. I was born and raised LDS. I went to HS in a town of 300 people. I was made fun of horribly bad by my non LDS peers for being LDS and "a prude". I had crippling anxiety from being bullied. I was threatened. I was also bullied for being "pretty and having a nice body". These girls threatened to take me behind the school and beat me up. Another girl told my brother that she hated me because I was pretty. Another girl humiliated me in front of my entire class to the point that I left the gym, walked to my grandma's and it took all the will power in the world of my parents to get me ever to walk back into the school. By my senior year I was getting ready to go to school in a different state with family friends because I couldn't take another day of it. I stayed and toughed it out. But I still suffer from anxiety and feeling accepted at times because women at work, non LDS (yes, I've worked outside the home) have bullied me just as bad as I was bullied in HS. I was a stay at home mom for 10 years and now have worked full and part time out of the home for 12 and I'd give anything to be a stay at home wife and mother again. I enjoy my home, working on my crafts and keeping my home clean. I dread going to work, but at least us women have that option for those of us who need or want it. (I got divorced 10 yrs ago so that's what started me working outside the home). So I've been on both sides.
I'm not gay, I'm fully LDS and always have been and I was STILL bullied by people with no affliction with the church. This lady has definitely not looked very far outside the box. Its just like you guys implied "bullying happens everywhere by all sorts of groups". It has NOTHING to do with the culture or teachings of the church. It has to do with broken people who need to mature, take responsibility and grow up. And I've seen in myblife personally people come back to the church as well as a few people I follow on social media who have left and came back. It happns everyday. But women like this are hurting others. 2 of my own children have left...1 because of influences like hers and of course their own free will and ability to make choices and walk away. I've respected and continued to love my kids that have left the church. Ive never guilted them or tried to get them back in. My job is "assistant manager", God's job is "manager". So I love, I encourage and I'm there for them with zero pressure or guilt about church things.
📌 CTR: do "the small & simple things" ...follow Truth & Light, Our Chosen Saviour.heed the counsel of the prophets 🤝🏁
I agree with you completely about the importance of reading the scriptures with your children DAILY. It is vital to their spiritual, and really their temporal survival as well, in these last days.
The guote you just shared - "no other success can compensate for failure in the home" - was a motto of Pres. Spencer W. Kimball.
What is his church? Can our ordinances save us? There will be many who prophecy in my name, who cast out demons and work miracles yet the lord will say I never knew you, and call us evil. Temple , tithing, garments, prophets have become an idol to this people collectively, that scripture is mind blowing to me. We really don’t even have the signs of the believers that should fallow the body of Christ. Mosiah scripture you shared is awesome the lord simply views us as the repentant sinner vs the unrepentant sinner. He says come to me with out money without price and I will give you rest! All he needs is our broken heart and contrite spirit. I hope we can start reading the bom with new eyes and cast out all other doctrine or else Jesus says hell gates are wide open to receive us and we have a whole book of doctrine we have added to Christ doctrine. We must throw off the religious spirit and embrace the plain and precious truth. It is written we are temple of God, as the prophets have said where can God dwell what man has made heaven is his thrown and earth is his footstool?
Alissa Grenfeld (however it's spelled) is very disingenuous in her arguments. She pretends that people coming to call her out in her comments is the same as people telling her to stop talking or to not dare criticize the church. And it doesn't seem to matter how anyone's feedback is phrased. She's just bitter and is a very toxic example of an ex member. Just like you, i know plenty of people who regretted leaving the church. I also know people who seem just fine and maybe even happier having left. I've never known someone as bitter as Alissa about the church who truly seemed happy. I'm sure she's happy she left. Clearly she didn't like it. But I'm tired of being insulted because i truly believe this is God's church. So i do call her out. I totally understand someone having criticism of the culture as well as the organization itself and even having issues with some of the doctrine because it depends on how you understand it and what you find OK with your own frame of how the world, life and eternity work. But she conflates a lot of things for the church and the doctrine that aren't those things.
I love this channel! You guys are spot on!
Thank you for the encouragement. Teach your children about our savior , his gift of us , They will remember.
Something interesting in that TikTok video is when she said, “if I can break the chain of Mormonism for even one family, this account is infinitely worth it to me.” Now imagine Lucifer himself saying that. I couldn’t imagine him saying it any different.
“Infinitely worth it…” interesting phrasing🤔
What? Men don't develop relationships with their children, maybe her dad.
That was one of the wackiest things she said there.
I couldn’t believe that when I heard it! I work a lot. My kids love me, I love them, we have a GREAT relationship. Did she just admit to having “daddy” issues? 😮
@@dcarts5616 The Daddy issues were flowing in every sentence she uttered.
Exactly! I have an amazing relationship with my dad. He was my greatest teacher and example and included me in everything.
Alyssa, and others such as Ex-Mo Lex, have the benefit of being young and cute. Many will not bother to dig into their half truths and frequently, out right misrrpresentations.
One of the best antidotes to half truths about doctrine and church history (besides scripture study and prayer) is to read more doctrine and history. Dig deep.
Timing is everything. Education is a life time pursuit. Having a family and becoming a mom is the best choice I have made and I still enjoy my family. I did graduate from college with a BS degree and then obtained my master’s degree and now a licensed professional with my own business.
I am not the only woman in the church doing this.
I find it interesting that those who choose to leave the church can never leave the church alone. I feel like they spend their time seeking revenge. And I don’t know why they’re under the assumption that everyone in the church is perfect and can never make bad choices. That really truly boggles my mind.
Another thing I don’t understand is why is this lady so profoundly impacted by a bunch of five and six-year-olds. It’s very strange to me. Not that you shouldn’t listen to children but let’s face it how much life experience do five and six year olds have. And should you really base your entire life on what they think or how they behave.
It’s all about the $$ and/or attention. Both are addicting.
@@dcarts5616 well it sure seems that way to me. There’s quite a lot of people out there that have started UA-cam channels or the lot, The bash on the church. And they all seem to have a holier than Val complex. It almost feels like they’re calling out The pot and they’re the tea kettle.
Jack you are correct, this is culture vs doctrine. The LDS culture doesn't always align with doctrine. That's one reason why God gives us prophets and apostles to help correct the culture so that it aligns more with doctrine. These people who leave the church and fight against it fight so hard against the culture in which most times we agree with them. All the reasons that young gal gives were all cultural issues that don't line up with doctrine.
The doctrine is why I left.
@HalfInsaneJane no other doctrine can compare to what the Infinite Atonement of Jesus Christ is clarified in the Book of Mormon. The fulness of the doctrine of Jesus Christ's Gospel, which is His Infinite Atonement, has never been more clear, complete, and revealed as such as in the Book of Mormon. You won't find the power and doctrine explained anywhere else. If the pure doctrine of Christ turns you away what hope and truth do you really turn to? ALL other principles and other important doctrines are appendages to the most important; the Infinite Atonement of Jesus Christ, taught in His true church. I hope you will find peace and comfort knowing His Atonement is for you too.
@@HalfInsaneJane I'm curious which doctrine of Christ that the church teaches that caused you to leave?
@@HalfInsaneJane Could you tell us which doctrine of the church made you decide to leave?
Very good analysis of the improper representation the young lady is giving on LDS youth/culture and the awful bullying the young man was suffering, which she described.
Where does this not happen? And much of the world's cultures would not only bully but probably assault if not worse. She doesn't have a clue about the real world.
Nothing to do with upbringing in LDS doctrine, it is the opposite. We are taught to love as Jesus loves us!!
Why do teachers like this never suspect that the actual problem is the public school system? I grew up in Minnesota. I was one of maybe 5 members in my high school. People, unfortunately, treated kids exactly the same way there.
This is a huge display of gross immaturity and supreme ignorance.
Add me to the list of returned. I ultimately found myself in one emotional breakdown after another and didn’t understand the emotions I was feeling. One day I prayed in desperation before taking my life, and received a very strong and clear answer to read from the Book of Mormon. The peace I fell as I began reading, took me straight back to the love I felt as a child in my home. I received a mission call 8 months later at age 23.
Thank you so much for sharing that! What a great example.
16:05 if anything, it’s not the church that’s doing that, but it is the families who are not serious about teaching their kids the gospel that end up being the ones making fun of those kids
Thanks so much for making this video!
Almost none of you have any idea what the youth and single over 30 are facing. The more I speak to LDS marrieds, the more I see that they are living in a comfortable bubble and afraid to really see the culture change and think the church magically will protect the youth from that world as long as they ignore and idealize the world. We are not prepared for what they are facing...or you would see a massive effort to expose what they are facing. Alyssa is the least of your problems
"who does my silence benefit....." Dear... it benefits YOU! :>)
Something I have learned hardly in life that if you’re so busy talking that you can’t hear the voice of the spirit… Maybe you should close your mouth and open your ears a little more. A personal lesson I have learned. People are too quick to speak without thinking. Very slow to listen without judging.
Thanks for your wonderful channel and all the people you are helping!
Daddy issues, a YW leader she didn’t like mixed with an ignorant understanding of LDS doctrine.
Thanks for exposing this toxic teacher.
thats a direct product of secular culture AND THE PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM... NOT THE CHURCH. HOLY HELL. This is public education behavior. NOT EVERY KID IN UTAH IS LDS. WILD WILD WILD.
Threatening to self-harm if you don’t get your way is called “coercive control” and that video is a clever use of it, pretending to defend an innocent who says you must not practice your religion or else someone will harm themselves. You’re unironically being emotionally abused.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is not just an ideal, but it is the Savior’s church restored in our day. It contains the fullness of his teachings and ordinances. Most importantly, the Lord’s church invites all to come and partake of the blessings of the Savior’s grace because of his atoning sacrifice.
I have not lived a perfect life, but I have hope by looking to
the Savior and repenting daily,
We as a church are flawed human beings who have need of the Savior.
My wife left the church, which has been a curse turned into a blessing for me because I knew that if I was going to help her I needed real answers, not superficial answers that promote temporary faith. I've always loved the scriptures and knew them well but I've gotten more from the scriptures since she left (one year ago) than I've received in the other 30 years of my life because I knew I could accept nothing less than the full answer. I learned how to dig down and build my foundation upon Christ. Many answers have come as a result, most of which were answers I thought I would never know. There is still a healthy amount of unresolved questions inside me waiting for its answer. The answers I have received have enabled me to teach our two kids simple gospel subjects with much greater clarity than I ever received as a kid.
Hopefully she'll wake up soon. I don't think she realizes how much our kids need her testimony. Our nation is about to be shaken hard. My hope is that it will help my lovely wife to wake up.
I'm in the same situation as you. My testimony in the Savior has grown exponentially. He has revealed many mysteries unto me. Trials really are growing opportunities.
My children see a difference in their mother. They also see a difference in me. Keep setting an example. Your children will learn to recognize the fruits of the gospel. Temple covenants are a protection to you and your family.
I feel your pain my wife left too and has done all she can to damage the children’s testimonies, too. I hope your prayers are ultimately answered soon. 🙏🏻
My wife left too. It's been so hard being lds while the evil forces surround us every day.
Stay strong brother. The stats are on your side - a strong LDS father tends to inspire his kids toward the same choices. Many women are leaving the church in modern times. And many of these will come back - after losing everything that truly made them happy
It's so hard to have a spouse question their faith and entire belief system. I love how you have been able to take something good from such a harrowing experience (Roman's 8:28 one of my favorite scriptures). Stay strong! I have gone through this / am still going through this but have seen straight up miracles and progress in ways I never would have dreamed possible in some of my darker days. Prayers for you and your family, it truly is such a difficult road to navigate.
Perhaps someone has already called attention to the hypocrisy of the girl in the "anti mormon" video, but she is extolling on the harm done to members of our church by those who believe and teach their children to believe, but neglects to notice that she is doing harm through her crusade to bring down the church. Her anger is palpable in the video, and I would like to propose that the harm she is inflicti g on others is equal to the harm done by broken members of the church.
I was told by members not to look at Anti-Mormon stuff. So I did. I don't regret it as it lead me to question more and search both sides of the argument and gain a deeper testimony (i bothered to ask god for myself and got a reply at the beginning, i just didnt know how it all fits together). I don't want to live in darkness and ignorance. Search both sides and ask God, stop waiting for the prophet to hold your hand the whole way.
I looked at anti-information, on a small level, while I was investigating. I listened to a video by a former bishop and a former member/professor (BYU professor, I believe). I noticed two things. First, I noticed what I'll call inconsistencies. For example, the professor said those in the LDS faith never pray and never pray in church. While investigating, I went to church regularly for four months prior to baptism. I knew that was not true. Additionally, I noticed a feeling inside myself when I was watching their videos. It wasn't a good feeling. Understatement. I did not feel light. I felt darkness. I've not looked at anti-materials since. I had that "taste" from a former bishop and former professor, I heard inconsistencies in what happened at church on a weekly basis, and felt a darkness that made me very uncomfortable. I don't want to bring darkness into my life. Since baptism, I haven't even been able to read mysteries like I did in the past. There's a darkness there, even in works of fiction, that doesn't feel right anymore but feels dead wrong. What do I really want to bring into my mind, emotions, body, and spirit? I think we should be incredibly mindful, intentional, and search for truth in scripture, in prayer, and from the prophet.
Wonderful sister
This represents the age old falecy "The few represents the sum of the whole". This is how Cultural stereotypes are born, In all It's crucial to consider a broader perspective and gather more comprehensive data before drawing conclusions about larger groups or phenomena.
Secondly, she's comparing foolish kids to church leaders.
She KNOWs the church as a whole doesn't teach what she is upset about, and yet, she makes it her mission to take down the church as a whole.
First off, HOW DOES A FIRST GRADER KNOW THEY ARE GAY!!??
That is not something they should even be thinking about for another decade AT LEAST and so that speaks to OTHER problems besides bullying.
Second, kids of any group would act like that at that age and it is okay for adults teach kids not to bully. But you should ALSO teach kids to not worry about their sexuality at that age.
OMG that woman says so many things that in my personal life are never true!!! I am Honduran, I joined the church when I was 15, in the young women's classes they prepared us to get married but also to study. Now I am 33 years old, I am a mother of 4 children and I am also a surgeon here in the United States, Absolutely ALL of my friends also went to college, they are mothers but also lawyers, dentists, journalists, music teachers.
I feel so sorry for that woman, I don't know the circumstances in which she lived caused her a lot of harm or it could also be that she wanted to live a life according to her will and now in order to excuse herself from that life she blames the Church and its rules BUT WE MUST REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE NOT THE RULES OF THE CHURCH BUT THEY ARE THE RULES OF CHRIST!!!!
we only have to look at the general authorities of The Primary , The Young Women and The Relief Society, ALL of those sisters have a college degree, So The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the church that most empowers women and I personally love that about this Church of Christ.
There is no Salvation outside of Jesus Christ. He Is Salvation. Believe the Gospel of Salvation preached by Apostle Paul found in Corinthians. No one can go to The Father except through Jesus Christ, THE Door of Life which is so narrow. The blood of Jesus Christ atoned for ALL SIN, Hebrews 11:6
“But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”
Christ Jesus promised that those who believe on Him for Salvation SHALL BE saved for ALL eternity, that they will {immediately} be Sealed by That Holy Spirit of Promise unto the Day of Salvation. You do not, cannot merit salvation, earn salvation, lose salvation, DESERVE salvation, undo salvation, because Jesus Christ said God desires ALL to be saved and tgat salvation is so simple that even a little child can understand and believe.
Jesus Christ is Not Satan's brother. Jesus Christ CREATED Lucifer who is Satan/Enemy. Jesus Christ IS GOD, The Holy Spirit IS GOD, Father GOD IS GOD, Satan is a fallen angel who covered GOD.
And what is also a problem, they cannot even show where things took place geographically, on a map. For example, where is Judea, where is Egypt, where is the Sea of Galilea, where's SLC, where's Nauvoo, and Wintr Quarters, ... and there's so much more.
she needs to get out of her echo chamber
Thanks for this message.
I have always known the statement "No other success can compensate for failure in the home.” originated with David O McKay. Because it was stated in this video that it was a quote from James E. McCulloch, I did some research and found it did originate from a book by J.E. McCulloch in1924. Very interesting.
I find this young female youtuber to be contemptible. Yes, all of us have & can find people who have been revolting in their behaviour. However I find it interesting how negative & absolute she is regarding EVERYTHING negative in LDS people. This can be done in the Catholic church, most work places, & innumerable situations. People are people. All teachers aren't wrong because some are revolving, all doctors aren't wrong because some are only driven by prestige or money. The gospel is NOT the church. The gospel is the Lord's doctrines & principles given to us to assist us to perfect (the process of improvement) ourselves. The church, is a body of people, and by design are flawed and deeply fallible. Some of whom are revolving by nature yes! I have experienced my fair share. However others are splendid, extraordinary & spectacular, they are the ones I focus on & seek out. She seems quite immature and self focused at this point in her journey 🙏, & sadly destructive 😢.
Thank for your broadcast. I have seen Alissa Grendeld’s channel before too and it just breaks my heart that she is so bitter. I can’t imagine the crappy feelings she must have to be so negative against the church. Obviously she has no clue. She’s like others who are deceived by the fluff! And I’m sure she feels off the others who thrive on bitterness. It reminds me of someone criticizing a car whose seatbelts are too tight, or the steering wheel is cold. Maybe the seats aren’t comfortable either, but the point they miss is that the engine runs perfectly and it’s going to take them to the places they need to go. She’s no better than anyone who judges the gay/lesbian/trans for their actions. The point is…the person inside that body is a beautiful person who is a child of God who is valuable!!
The point is, the gospel of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Days is a perfect gospel. The Book of Mormon is true and so is the Bible. I feel sorry for her the day she realizes the depth of her actions😢
"Parents have a sacred duty to rear their children in love and righteousness, to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, and to teach them to love and serve one another, observe the commandments of God, and be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Husbands and wives-mothers and fathers-will be held accountable before God for the discharge of these obligations."
From what I see there's going to be a buttload of parents being punished for simply failing to educate their neanderthal children & sticking them in front of phones & tablets their whole childhood instead. If you haven't yet realized that not meeting your child's spiritual needs is abuse... it is. (And tearing down some kid's faith while you are an adult that's not their parent is also abuse & should be punished by law! Your teacher nor your friend's parent should be allowed to groom you as a minor into believing that your family's faith is false. Absolutely despicable behavior.)