INDIAN Cardinal OSWALD Gracias handles KARAN Thapar on a CONTROVERSIAL Topic ( Joseph Dinesh )

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  • @sujamaryvarghese4139
    @sujamaryvarghese4139 7 місяців тому +27

    Homosexuality cannot be a God given condition. For if it were so then why would God in the old testament destroy Sodom and Gomorrah?

    • @leonine01
      @leonine01 7 місяців тому

      HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN. no doubt. God HATES HOMOSEXUALITY.

    • @salvadoralmeida7294
      @salvadoralmeida7294 7 місяців тому +4

      Well said.

    • @somt.6997
      @somt.6997 7 місяців тому +1

      I agree. It is like over-simplifying that any disability is God-given, when many other factors are involved.
      Very often (not always), homosexuality arises from the non-involvement of the earthly father (parent) in the early life of the person.
      Why attribute it to the heavenly father?

    • @stephandharkahit7249
      @stephandharkahit7249 7 місяців тому

      Good interview. Except one unclear statement.. God's given inclination .... What will we say about masturbation... 😮 Difficult to give a straight answer

  • @leonine01
    @leonine01 7 місяців тому +11

    Homosexuality IS A SIN, as ruled by YWHW, in Leviticus 18, v22.

  • @francisjoseph9292
    @francisjoseph9292 7 місяців тому +7

    Cardinal Oswald knows which side of slice is buttered. Jesus loved and forgave sinners and commanded them to sin no more. These men, as if out of compassion, want to love the sinners and encourage them to continue to live in sin. They blame God for their orientation just like Adam blamed God for giving him Eve.

    • @blueheaven4838
      @blueheaven4838 7 місяців тому

      So start did you want the Cardinal to say. That they are doomed to hell...

    • @Theloneyat
      @Theloneyat 6 місяців тому

      ​@@blueheaven4838That Homosexuality is a sin. Sin leads to hell.So, yes, if one is homosexual and lives in sin, they will eventually go to hell.And repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ.

  • @rosythomas3267
    @rosythomas3267 7 місяців тому +6

    Of course we must be compassionate and understanding towards homosexuals. But my doubt is that are we not suppose to bring them to a life of holiness. To tell them the Truth in love. Through our Bible says repeatedly that homosexuality is no homosexual people will enter the kingdom of God

    • @leonine01
      @leonine01 7 місяців тому +4

      There is NO WAY TO ACCEPTANCE. The homosexual HAS TO REPENT OF HIS SIN. He CANNOT GAIN ENTRY INTO HEAVEN by being a homosexual.

  • @navinfernandes747
    @navinfernandes747 7 місяців тому +2

    We need to pray for any persons having such tendencies... homosexuality is a sin bcoz Jesus never rebuked an existing norm (that it was a sin).. however, just like masterbation or pornography, if a person is struggling with it, we cannot close doors to such people.. the curch is 1st for sinners and then for righteous people.. some people will be eunuchs for God's kingdom... it is a burden i would struggle with, if i had this tendency....
    Homosexuality is considered disordered bcoz it doesnt yield a fruit of union, just like heterosexual relations and in Genesis, God blessed the man and woman and said ,,, be fruitful and multiply..

  • @vijaybhurkud2604
    @vijaybhurkud2604 7 місяців тому +1

    I think the cardinal is trying to say what God does with all of us, and we are trying to say how God should judge us all... the sinner

  • @salvadoralmeida7294
    @salvadoralmeida7294 7 місяців тому +2

    Understanding and compassion -- that's fine. But Jesus also said "sin no more." It is disastrous to souls to lovingly accept people in their sin but not exhort them to repent.
    This attitude will send people down the pipe to hell.
    Pope Francis is seen cosying up to all types of dubious characters, never telling them to repent.

  • @juliodcunha193
    @juliodcunha193 7 місяців тому +1

    Love and care means to certify their unions in the church?

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  7 місяців тому +2

      Absolutely not ! We can't bless Sin

    • @SD-fk8bt
      @SD-fk8bt 7 місяців тому +1

      The Catholic Church makes a distinction between the sinner and sin. It welcomes the sinner but rejects the sin.

  • @the-Carpenter
    @the-Carpenter 7 місяців тому

    I wish the good Cardinal had made it clear that God would not condemn the very tendency he gives. To say that God has given this tendency to some and He also condemns it, is to say that God is playing games. And that's really sad.

  • @aashishacharya2204
    @aashishacharya2204 7 місяців тому +1

    Brother, i am confused with the video you made. I understand giving a pastoral care and love but how do you think, as a Christian, one should counsel Homesexual, isnt a Homesexuality is Sin, hence counseling and pastoral care should reveal such a thing. Acceptance without acknowledging Sin, is allowing to remain in sin, more. Which is more dangerous.

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  7 місяців тому

      Homosexuality or Same Sex attraction in itself is not a Sin - But engaging in a Homosexual act is ! In this video I am saying the first step should be talking about Sin. We eventually get there - but first step should be nurturing a good friendship

    • @aashishacharya2204
      @aashishacharya2204 7 місяців тому

      @@SongonFirecatholicIndia
      I agree nurturing and accepting as a friend, as we do with all human beings should be first in order to take the next step to talk about Sin however Homosexuality or Same sex attraction is a sin for Jesus clearly mentioned even the thought with an eye of adultery makes one sinful hence the same applicable here.
      How could a person be an adulterer without the sin of adultery hence a person how could a person be a Homosexual without the sin of Homosexuality.
      If Homosexuality is not sin then why to condemn Homosexual ?
      Isn't Homosexuality itself a sin generated or performed due to human sinful nature ?

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  7 місяців тому

      No ! Having Same sex attraction is not sinful in itself ! The homosexual act is !

  • @johncrasto1195
    @johncrasto1195 7 місяців тому +1

    I think human has to learn from nature like birds n animals as human are rational animals. Why one religion but it happen all religions n homosexulity there is some gene lacking or disorder in human system.we need to correct our way living .Now what about Enoch here there birth is defect.we cannot blame anyone but our fate.

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  7 місяців тому

      What do you mean by fate ?

    • @leonine01
      @leonine01 7 місяців тому

      It is NOT FATE, but temptation to sin with another person of the same sex.
      God didn't create Adam and Steve....!!!

    • @WorldWide-xm2ob
      @WorldWide-xm2ob 7 місяців тому

      ​@@leonine01eunuch in bible

  • @floriovas605
    @floriovas605 7 місяців тому

    Please keep religious questions separate and if it so then God would create only man not woman or woman not man

  • @japanmesmerises1384
    @japanmesmerises1384 7 місяців тому

    As a traditional catholic. I am a Latin Traditional catholic.
    As per thevtraditions of Catholic church, Homosexuality is not natural. Even the Bible says the A man and woman can only form a matrimonial union... nowhere is it said man, semi man woman or semi woman or whatever nonsense is said.

    • @japanmesmerises1384
      @japanmesmerises1384 7 місяців тому

      The cardinal is with the sinful pope. Hence he is saying such things.

  • @indiradixit2175
    @indiradixit2175 7 місяців тому +1

    What about transgenders etc

    • @user-kg2rk3wi1u
      @user-kg2rk3wi1u 7 місяців тому

      Transgenders can be Healed... They have to Trust God not Men... Near future the Guy will Convert when they are Healed wait and watch... Hallelujah Amen

    • @leonine01
      @leonine01 7 місяців тому

      Transgenders are made....not God given. Hermaphrodite are a very rare species.

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  7 місяців тому

      Wrong ! Transgenders are not made by God !

    • @TMX1014
      @TMX1014 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@SongonFirecatholicIndia😂😂😂

    • @vtslglen
      @vtslglen 7 місяців тому

      @@SongonFirecatholicIndia? Then how are they born?

  • @japanmesmerises1384
    @japanmesmerises1384 7 місяців тому

    Honos or lgbt or trans are not approved by the Catholic church