Tom Tells Shiv Matsson Named him CEO Succession Finale
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I'm just glad they didn't make Bran The Broken CEO...
Who has the better story than Logan's brother?
aka Greg 😂
aka Rom?
Only because they cracked too many Gregs
Shiv deciding at the last minute to vote for the sale was essentially Dany burning down King's Landing but not awful
"He ate my fucking chicken! What's next?"
Tom:
Love this comment😂
He takes your job. That's what's next😊
Nice. That was a foreshadow right there
Nice pull
So.. Shiv is the chicken 😂 ? JK
"Information is like a bottle of fine wine. You store it, you hoard it, you save it for a special occasion, and then you smash someone's fuckin' face in with it"
Brilliant callback!
Please watch your language.
@@emmapeelible You being serious?
@@emmapeelible A comment about smashing someone in the face with a wine bottle and you are offended by the profanity. The violence is ok though?
@@guderian7795watch your language
“Good FUCKINGGG luck”
that was literally Logan
you're right she sounds just like him!
Please watch your language.
@@starksoldier9928 The whole series, Siobhan attempted to be Logan in a dress (pantsuit).
Pretending to be Logan - the siblings got embarrassed and outflanked at every turn
I just love the way Shiv’s face contorts when she hears information that is in any way inconvenient for her. It’s so entitled and so smug and so slicey. Sarah Snook mothered her well.
What valiant, unforgettable performances by her and Matthew.
Sarah's ability to channel Brian Cox this season is remarkable. So many moments (including this one) make me truly believe she's his daughter.
@@TaylorTrask her facial expressions are so on point it's uncanny sometimes
@@lucasr406 if they ever wanted to reboot William Stryker as a woman in the new X-Men movies, just give the role to her. She'd both crush it acting-wise and give fans like me the warm blanket feeling of evoking Brian's original performance.
@@TaylorTrask she resembles him the most, no wonder Matsson said she reminds him of Logan
Her acting is so underrated
Had Tom not told Shiv, she might have still named Ken CEO. Crazy how these seemingly little moments have huge repercussions to the story
I think the same
Not really. Shiv didnt want kendall to win. Theres no indication she wanted Tom to win. Even in the end she wasnt even holding Toms hand.
@@georgehernandez2156 but she was holding his baby lol
Kendall would ALWAYS voteagainstKendall. She’s a snake!
Nah i think she always wanted to win herself, with tom a CEO she can play still but with kendall as CEO she completly lose he always left her aside
Tom does his math real quick here and decides to take a calculated risk. The moment he realises Mattson’s lost Shiv’s vote you can literally see the wheels turning in his brain. In the end he tells Shiv it’s him hoping, but also kind of knowing, that if it came down to choosing between him and Ken, Shiv would probably still side by him.
Actually, I think what sets Tom apart from the Roys is that here there is no calculated risk, no big emotional gambit -- he tells Shiv that it's him because he thinks it's the right thing to do. You can see him wrestling with the guilt of keeping the truth from her again and finally coming clean because I think he understands that if he hides this from her and it's revealed by someone else, she will never trust him ever again; and it's simply not in his nature to be deceitful to her.
Tom is just a hore that every thing he get was for marry Shiv, he used, and then he took everything from her. Tom was THE EVIL, the worst thing that a woman can happen. This was not a happy ending.
Also, Tom was willing to make himself go to prison for that cruise scandal which thankfully he never done that. And who was the last person with Logan in the end? Tom!
Also, Tom is prioritize the company over himself most of the time. He's also has enough with Shiv's BS.
@@margarethmichelina5146 Tom and Shiv, especially Shiv, did not always tell each other everything. I don't think Tom found that Shiv went to see the cruise-line sexual harassment victim. In a sense, she is as much involved in the cruise mess as he is. She tampered with witness, while he destroyed evidence.
Look at the way Shiv and Tom being interviewed by Mattson and also the way they pitched themselves.
Shiv went with "Pick me, Pick me" energy but she's never telling Mattson specifically what she's doing on the company. All she did was telling him "You have to pick me just because I'm good." Even though Mattson knew she has no experience on the company. Also, she's pregnant, imagine having a pregnant CEO when she has to go on Maternity Leave for 2-3 months to take care of her baby, who's gonna be in charge on the company? She's never thinking of that as she's never looking herself on the future.
Meanwhile, when Tom got interviewed, Tom told what he did on the company, he also said that he never slept well from past few days since Tailgate Party. He even missed Logan's funeral and stay at work. He is telling Mattson with a humility and he's willingly to be a pain sponge as he mostly being hurt by Shiv and her brothers many times. He's also talking to Mattson like adult while Shiv's talking to Mattson like a little girl who's begging for a toy. Mattson realized he's the one.
She underestimated Tom AGAIN.
tbf even tom underestimated himself in this one. he thought he was going to get fired
She didnt underestimate tom, shes the one who made tom win
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 watch last episode again , looks like you didn't
Well, Siobhan did more or less sell/promote Tom's abilities, as she saw them, to Matsson, to wit: at Logan's funeral, where's your Tommy boy? Siobhan's reply: AT WORK. He's competent at his job; he's popular with his staff; he follows orders, He runs ATN, the corporate cash cow.
That scene where she walks in the hallway going to tell Kendall & Roman “It’s Tom” gave me so much chills. Nicholas Britell perfected this scene with the music. Incredible.
allegro bellicoso Pirates - Nicholas Britell honestly the music used in this episode was masterful
Spot on
Yeah, everything about it was great. Her delivery was spot on. She legit looked pissed off lol
Agreed. The "villain music." It literally made my stomach drop.
It added to much tension to the scene
You know what I love about all of this. How perfect all of this is. Shiv won against her siblings, lost overall game, so all 3 loose. Tom, always the dark horse gets the gig he, let's be honest, can fill in nicely. There are glimpses of what 'should've been' throughout the season: Kendall doing great, Shiv and Tom having an actual marriage, but it's all a mirage.
With this and the election, Tom is Vader...but Lucas is the Emperor.
I need to watch it again, because the finale had so many layers of writing, acting, reaching loosely to Lear and Murdoch's bunch. I think this finale will age nicely.
He's just Matsson's puppet though. Shiv said it when she said "Tom will suck the biggest dick in the room".
Absolutely, in the game of Succession Shiv is the winner over the siblings...... wife of the CEO still puts her at the head table at the end of the day
Granted she has a life full of shredded relationships, but you don't make it to the top by being everyone's buddy...... at least not unless you're Tom
@@legendbucwild Shiv built her own prison and I love it! Go Tom!
@@protostark5860 All three kids did themselves in at the end. People were rooting for Kendall, but in the first season when Logan popped his kid and he did nothing about it, that told me all I needed to know about him
I've seen a lot of people saying that Shiv flipped at the last minute just to spite Ken, but I think this scene and her earlier conversation with Tom on the phone informs her decision far more than anything else in the episode. Shiv is terrified of being left alone, her father is gone, her mother is emotionally unavailable, Mattson has betrayed her, her brothers have already tried to cut her out of the business once this season (and Kendall's behavior certainly pointed towards icing her out again), and if she voted the deal down, she loses Tom forever too. Shiv is terrified of the prospect of having to open herself up to another person (again) and having it go wrong - so she picks the 'devil she knows' in Tom.
Shiv never cared about tom. I think actors who plays knew their charcter better than us. Matthew clearly said she betrayed kendall nit to support tom
I thought so to she's gone with the safest option. Also as Roman said that way the Roy legacy is still kinda in the company with their baby.
Armstong literally confirmed she did it to spite the siblings. It wasn’t a calculated move, this isn’t a video game man
@Imafraid Jumitebeeinnagang u are overthinking it idiot. Macfayden (Tom's actor) said that "It was a visceral reaction to seeing her brother in the boardroom and thinking, I can’t bear him." She literally couldn't stand Kendall actin like a jackass in charge and voted against him. She wasn't weighing the benefits and costs during the hear of he moment
@@keysersoze5032 if you’re trusting Jeremy Strong to verify things not necessarily related to his character you’re wrong.
"I know you. Like you wouldn't? If it was the other way around?" Four fucking seasons but Tom finally grew the balls to call out Shiv for what she is!
Yeah a total fucking hypocrite lol
Please watch your language.
@@emmapeelible We're discussing succession here 💀
@@naterodriguez6264they're quoting
This scene may be one of the very best of the series.
Shiv thinking she is feeding Tom info that he actually already knows, but also in return, reveals that his #1 in Greg shared this very info, unknowingly that Tom was in fact the one replacing her..
It goes from Shiv thinking she is controlling the conversation and Tom feeling a sense of despair to Wambsgams pulling a Logan and playing the ace card he had up his sleeve by telling the truth to Shiv and watching her crumble.
When Tom says “Come on…I know you. Like you wouldn’t if it was the other way around?” Boom.
Shiv realized she lost…and her anger in this moment is her last grasp at power before she realizes what her final choice must be in the end.
Her reaction, the music, the walk, the camera, the delivery of:
“It’s Tom..”
Absolutely f#%&ing brilliant.
I dont think Tom telling Shiv that he's the one is this brilliant Loganesque move. Shiv had the votes to give it to Ken and obviously was pissed off at the reveal and became even more determined. Tom's confession was a desperate attempt to leverage the fact that Matsson's choice isn't some rando, but someone she knows and can benefit from, but then again she couldve also benefitted from Ken being CEO. I think it's pretty clear that most of Shiv's decision-making had to do with either Ken's arrogance or her wanting to burn it all down because she lost the job.
@@Iloovecereal Logan always made moves that helped him win. Tom learned from the best and knew that if he was just honest with Shiv (who like you said would want to burn it all down since she lost the job) would lean his way despite her anger. However, one could say that in the end Shiv did this just to keep her hand at the table in the long run and sealing out Ken and Rome for good.
@@cadenford1425 hmmm, i guess im having a hard time believing that Tom and Logan have that much in common. 😄I can't really think of many instances where Logan implemented honesty as a main tactic. Also, Tom got the job because he is subservient and has a good work ethic (which is probably one of the only things they have in common) Yes, Shiv did extend the olive branch to Tom at the beginning of the episode, which he may have used, but I don't think it was a given that Shiv would look past her anger and vote in Tom's favour. Yes, with Tom she still has a hand at the table, but getting an actual position at the company is more likely with Ken cuz he doesn't have to get approval from Matsson.
@@Iloovecereal yeah, I meant more of the idea that Tom “pulled a Logan” and made a successful move. Not so much that they have a lot in common. Tom played the long game in a sense and his play was honesty, while Logan was always more cunning and harsh. Both played to their strengths and did it well which helped them ultimately each have power when they wanted it most.
Every kid tried to make their move to do this and couldn’t reach the finish line, so it goes to show how in a way the two are similar, yet so different. I do think that in the end, nobody out of the Roy family is really a winner from their own perspective (except Rome in a way, but ehh lol) regardless of how you look at it - which just shows how well done the writing really is.
And yes, while I do think that Shiv would’ve have had an actual position with Ken in charge, she would’ve hated that and found a way to do what she does best and implode it for her own well-being 😂
wow true wow
Her walk. The music. Her hair. Perfection. By far one of my fav moments in the finale.
and then he completely screws him.....oh wait.
Mother was mothering
@@afonsordsTaylor Swift detected lol
Be a fool in front of the smart one's.
That's how Tom play the game and that's how he win it
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥Playing dumb is the smartest thing to do most times!!
100%
He didn't "win". He'll be a lapdog beholden to Natsson.
Umm, he'll be CEO of Waystar Royco. Once you make it to the C suites you're pretty much set for life. Tom absolutely won.
@@teddykgb3865 True, he has finally achieved independent wealth, so it's a financial win for him. But the "winning" on this show was always about power and control.
Shiv is so entitled. Even her dad wanted her to get experience before she got the top job. No one with sense would make someone a CEO with no business experience. Also it was pretty obvious Mattheson wasn't going to either from the beginning. He just wanted to divide the siblings.
well hey no one cared that trump had no political experience
Her dad wanted her to get experience because he never wanted her to succeed or any woman for that matter. He had no problem giving Roman, who had far less working experience, a high position in the company.
@@inessebastiao3887 roman worked at waystar studios with frank watching over him for an undisclosed period of time prior to the start of the series. that gives him at least a couple of years of management experience over shiv. might not be much in comparison to others like gerri or tom, but to say roman had “far less working experience” is just absurd.
They're all entitled. That's the point and none of them deserved anything
@@midgetwars1 facts they didn’t have the edge..that killainstinct in em
This is what sealed the deal. Brilliant audible by Tom. Shiv knew this was the only play that keeps her in the game, albeit as nothing more than the CEOs wife.
I'm starting to think Mattson pushed him in that direction to inform her after she changed team
@@vasvas8914 It was Shiv who sealed the win for Tom by grossly saying to Matsson that Tom "would $%Hk anyone to get what he wants". Boom! That's when Mattson knew to hire Tom for CEO because Tom will not challenge him or his ideas. Tom will do as he's told and get the job done. Thanks Shiv! I LOVE TOM!
She might have gotten a new position
Also, Tom is doing something that none of the siblings have: Honesty.
When he meets Mattson, he is being honest with no bullshit and gaslights and one more thing, showing how he put the company first and himself later. Tom is even skipping Logan's funeral and not sleep very well showing how he works harder than everyone. Kendall only copying Logan from his attitude but Tom is following Logan's footstep for not caring of any personal life.
@@Richard68434 MIGHT??!! Under Kendall, I think Stewy would end up running Waystar. Stewy is one of the people that I consider killers: Tom, Matsson and Shiv.
Tom pretending to be shocked when Shiv tells him it's not gonna be her is so painful
The way she channels the spirit of Logan on that “good FUCKING luck” line is just criminally good attention to detail
Please watch your language.
@@emmapeelible😭😭😭 i found this comment so many times. If you don't like it, don't see the comments. (Don't watch succession lmao)
I think Tom did what was best for his family. Sure it was going to piss Shiv off at first but at the end of the day i think she realizes that if if Tom doesn't take the job then its just going to be someone else. At least this was she and her family is at the top. Might not have been the way she thought but its still better for her than someone random or Ken.
Kendall isn't someone else. He is her brother. Their next generation could still run the company
@@Upsallauniversity123next generation did end up running it-technically.
@@Upsallauniversity123 the familys still in the company, toms an inlaw and shivs his wife and there kid will likely be in the company, and mattsons a logan type of guy he will further the company, kendall or roman will fuck the company and burn it to the ground nothing would be left with either of them running it, logan knew his kids didnt have what it takes to further his dream(waystar) which is y he chose mattson, when they met up at the end of season 3 u could see after a couple of mins of feeling eachother out that mattson and logan had a mutual respect for eachother
@@willythekid7123 Tom is just an employee of the company. The family has no more control over it.
@@diamonddog13 yea but hes still in the company and he has a very important role and influence hes the face of gojo/waystar, cant forget greg either hes also family and hes toms right hand, they dont run the company like logan did but they are very important, in logans dream world he wanted his kids to run it but even more than that he wanted waystar and atn to have a future and grow and have hisnfamily in the company and he got both, mattson/tom/greg are way more likely to be succesful then ken/roman/shiv would be
Is hard for me to say this, but I think Tom actually was a sincere, honest and loving person with Shiv here, and thats what gave him the win at the end
I think it’s a little more complicated than that. He knew she’d be picking between Kendall a him. And well.
If you look at Tom’s actions, you’ll see that he’s willing to do whatever it takes, but he does help the people he cares about, namely Shiv and Greg, arguably the two people he loves the most.
Yeah, he also got the job by being honest. He's a grinder, a hard worker, simply wants security not necessarily power...something i imagine Logan wanted when he was growing up poor. It's interesting how throughout the series, its mostly him you see working. He has his flaws but he is arguably the least nastiest of all the characters and you get a sense that he was a really good guy at one point. He is also the only one to show any hints of regret at getting Mencken voted in.
@@bluefilmsltd and he actually cried when Logan was dying. I knew it was going to be Tom and I'm happy that it came to be that he was the last one standing.
He was not at all sincere here. He was actually mirroring how she has treated him in all of the seasons. Tom has finally outplayed Shiv . . . Hence the scorpion gift. Shiv has always underestimated and belittled Tom. And this scene he outplays her again.
If Tom hadnt gloated about being the new CEO, he probably would had lost and is so funny in hindsight how he basically blaclmailed himself into becoming Ceo
He wasn't gloating. He was going for a hail mary because of the leak. It was mentioned multiple times in multiple scenes before this that the siblings, in the end, would have an advantage because they are together. Tom knew that in order to get the vote, it was through divide and conquer. Shiv, from the beginning, was always excluded and pushed to the side by her two brothers. Tom figured she would never vote for either of her brothers because of this. Not to mention, she was carrying his child and she hinted that she still wanted to give their marriage a try. Tom saw this as an opportunity to mindfuck (a tactic mentioned a lot of times throughout the show) Shiv before a huge vote to create disruption and doubt. Masterful hand played by Tom here. He wasn't being careless. He knew what he was doing. That's why Shiv ended up in Tom's car in the end. She knew he beat her in a game she never thought he would be a serious contender in.
I love Tom's reaction when he hears Greg talked. Priceless.
The whole cast deserves Emmys and Golden Globe awards
*THEY*
Most Definitely and Sincerely Do...
So Memorably
*OUTSTANDING* ❣
🎬💯🎭...-💚*🙏🏼
And let's not forget SAGs and BAFTA TV as well!
@@moisemensah8233bafta tv only applicable in Matthew's case
Agreed
This is why Tom won. He chose to be honest with her. That’s the only thing Shiv ever wanted from anyone
Shiv doesn't want honesty. Shiv just doesn't want her brothers to have anything. Shiv only runs on the fuel of Spite.
I disagree with this. She wanted to win and she didn't want her bother's to win. It was easier to stomach Tom winning than her brothers.
She just changed her mind because she didn’t want Kendall to win. It wasn’t planned.
He really didn’t choose to be honest tho. She pulled his card, she caught on to him being sneaky and he kinda had to tell the truth. He’s a piece of shit but so is she.
Not really. Matson was the one who really won. Tom got the job because he will be perfectly servile to Matson.
The "good FUCKING luck" was SO Logan. Sarah Snook kills it every episode.
And the "Youre fn pirates" speech music kicking in after she channels Logan there? Chef's kiss.
Please watch your language.
Lol they like her idea but not her...Damn she was screwed 😄
Couples therapist to Tom and Shiv: So tell me guys, what brings you in here today?
Tom:well…ummm…it’s complicated.
Unlike Season 3 ending when Tom betrayed Shiv, he actually tells Shiv the truth. It has something to do when Shiv genuinely apologize to Tom on the phone earlier.
yeah, they have a weird thing going, very codependent to say the least.
That's why Tom also using his honesty when he got interviewed by Mattson which makes him a worthy CEO.
I guess Shiv couldn't stomach the thought of Tom becoming CEO. Until she realized she couldn't stomach Kendall being CEO even more lol
"Good...FUCKING...luck." Shiv became Logan in that moment. Said it just like her father would have.
Knowing how it ends up, I can truly appreciate the fact that they use the exact same musical cue when she makes the numbers claim as they did in Logan’s ATN speech when he plans on making a better news outlet the day before he died. Absolute masterclass.
He didn’t tell greg because he couldn’t trust him after teaching him to leverage information. He tells shiv because he knows how much she can’t stomach either of her brothers getting the job.
Add the baby into the mix, the election shenanigans to install a fascist, and Kendall and Rome’s consistently leaving her out of the room, it all made sense
It's more about the big secret being that Shiv wasn't going to be CEO, not who would be replacing her. Since she already knew that part, knowing it was him didn't really change anything strategically and telling her was better than having it be a surprise.
@@kyleowsen It added the hail mary that if shiv knew it was tom maybe there was a chance she would vote for him instead of voting to block the deal. Her also having his baby helps a bit with that too.
i love every single one of these actors and actresses and hope to see them in more incredible roles. sarah's facial expressions are fucking insane, she is a master of her craft and created a perfectly portrayed character. there's honestly not one single moment where any of the major characters felt off or awkward, the unbelievable attention to detail with their personalities and the consistency of it all provides an amazing display of character development that unfolds right before your eyes
this show is a masterpiece and it's one of HBO's best, and i think it always will be, no matter what they make next. i didn't expect to love it as much as i did, but it's one of the best shows i've ever seen. it rivals breaking bad in my honest opinion when it comes to the level of talent and love that went into it, and how deserving it is of awards and recognition globally.
That look in her eyes when she says: "Good luck, mother f*cker." Jesus her acting is incredible.
At first I thought the ending was unsatisfying. But now 24 hours later and it’s stuck with me big time. Such a haunting episode. Yes I think it probably would have been a better season finale rather than the series finale, but there really wasn’t any other way this show could have ended.
I always thought they'd all lose.
man they truly could have went another season but I would rather end it here than have the show end on some mediocre piece of horse shit like game of thrones
I mean, they could've left the company in hands of them three and actually redeem their broken relationship. Instead, they ruined it for all three and she is just a trophy wife.
@@moonbeeps They were told previously that the 3 of them would not be allowed to run the company. Tellis told them in Barbados that Shiv was not acceptable. The three would have never worked. Too much emotional baggage.
Tom always tell Shiv all the information when he meets her.
Tom's whole arc in the pilot is him playing fetch for Logans approval (Patek Philippe), seeing how it went, he quitted that game right off the bat, in the series finale we see the siblings still killing themeselves for Logan's approval, while Tom gets it all
WTF you smoked? He was an ass kisser the whole show.
Like how she accidentally rats Greg and blows up Kendal. She really has backstad everyone but everytime blows up in her face unlike Greg
Greg who lost his inheritence to greepeace, whose salary is going to cut to a tenth of what it was and who is basically Tom's plaything now ?
@@yc6018 very true maybe Wendy in Ozark is a better example
@@TimesFM4532oh man ! Dat was another great show
Tom is Matsson's bitch now. So Tom punished Greg, like he always does when he's upset. But sure, pretend Greg is the winner lmao
she owes Greg nothing, he literally ratted her out to ken . greg might have been always team kendal, since he was the most decent with him
I love the way Tom looked around when Shiv said, “empty suit,” like she was talking about someone else.
His suit could not have been that empty. She has got nine months of growth.
Funny how Shiv went from a powerful and independent player to a trophy wife
Is she, though? She knows enough about the company to act as a silent partner alongside Tom in guiding the company. What we saw here was Shiv drawing her brothers into pulling together the numbers to _try_ to keep the company in the family - knowing, of course, that she was going to pull the rug out from under the whole thing because she had another ace in her hand - Tom.
This was Shiv best scene of the entire show. Her vitriol for Tom was outstanding.
Honorable mention for the balcony scene though, that was brutal
That musical score tho
"Guess I just got Wambsgans-ed, huh?"
Sarah Snook has been incredible this season. I hope she win an Emmy!!
She locked her emmy in episode 3
She already won, both her and Matthew
@@JoaoVictor-yq8ym sarah never won an emmy for succession. Only matthew won his emmy last year. But maybe they locked their emmy in episode 3 for sarah and episode 7 for matthew
I love how this scene plays out, that dramatic score building the tension, Shiv walking with assertion, the camera shot following her from behind and you see other people just moving out of her way, then immediately into the camera shot of her face in determination as she enters the room.
Also in the background, barely perceptible you can hear Roman deliver in his cynical, snide way the line: "F*cked by the dry cleaner" referencing Tom of course who was always seen as just a upstart peasant.
The pain in Tom eyes when Shiv tells him Greg sniched, he feel so betrayed
Its like he's been stabbed in the heart!
To be fair to Greg, he only knew Shiv wouldn't be the one. He didn't know it would be Tom.
Simultaneously Tom is proud of Greg for finally playing 'the game' to this extent. Hence he keeps him on board.
Greg is a straight killer Tom inadvertently trained.
Greg didn’t know it would be Tom
@@vasvas8914soprano reference?
If D&D wrote this episode they would make Greg CEO
What I think is missing from this is that even though shiv didn’t win, her privilege as a woman of higher class affords her the opportunity to still be married to a winner. I think she weighed her options and recognized through marriage she could still somewhat get what she wants. So, I think she’ll end up like her mother, but slightly more jaded. Although her brothers lost and yes still incredibly wealthy, they lost everything; whereas, shiv lost, but still won because she gets to be married to the guy that has a seat at the table.
your giving shiv far Far too much credit she did NOT think that.
or she could divorce and still have a pretty large pool of pretenders to choose from. she doesn't need tom's money, his status just matched hers. why are people acting as she is willa or sm
💀. she will always be a roy
I agree, joining hands with Tom in the finale ensures, at least, a seat at the table, albeit no longer at the ends. I would not be surprised if she manipulates their relationship using their child as leverage
@@EarthenGames well she was wasn't her.. tom was always a wolf dressed as sheep until the end. but still she will always be privileged .. people forget she was about to aquire the pierce conglomerate and that she was the selling point for it . I mean she being a billonaire isn't a disagreement point it's pretty much a fact... but yeah whatever dude
@user-vq7wr9up6l well that's more of a personal impression i think. for me, i thought his smile was bittersweet, like a " we could had have it all" moment. specially knowing he was drinking gerri's favorite drink . i think he might be the sibling more inclined to move forward tho
This is kind of funny because they did mention seasons ago that the plan for these two was for Tom to be CEO and then later Shiv was planning to be at the top and said he would be "way way up." But now he ended up being the CEO after all.
I just realised that Shiv was on the verge of tears when she said to Kendall and Rome that it's Tom
She ultimately does it anyways, because the truth is, Tom would've done it for her if it was the other way around.
My theory on Shiv and Tom's relationship was always this: Shiv could only LOVE Tom as her underling, but she could only RESPECT Tom when he betrayed her or played the game ruthlessly. It seems at the end of the show Tom earned Shiv's respect, but as you can tell by the placement of her hands, there's no love there.
She likes him broken. Just like her dad.
Nah she just couldn’t stomach Kendall
This has more to do with being sidelined each time by her siblings regarding who would be CEO. Tom taking the role adds a nice convincing touch to it, but it is in no way the sole reason for it.
@@aliciasantillan8072 Correct
@@sagarthegreatable Nope. She just hates everyone and herself. Shiv is why we can't have nice things.
The more important question is… Is that Mr. Darcy!? With an American accent!?
Shiv storming out of the room is a subtle nod to the fact that the information she just learned made her quite upset. Bravo Vince!
Shiv respected Tom In this moment
I doubt it but if she did she knows where she can stick that respect hahaha she rungs below on the ladder
no she didn't
Yeah, nothing says respect like calling someone an empty suit.
@@teddykgb3865 lol i feel like ppl reach so hard in this show, sometimes the dialogue is what it is and not that deep
She never once treats him with respect, that's why this is great. Meanwhile, Tom knows how to be respectful and subservient, something none of them can do if they try. The siblings all thought that legacy was what Logan cared about most, but it wasn't. Logan only cared about being the richest dragon. So did Tom and Matsson. That's why they all succeeded where the siblings failed
"Maybe you should vote it through ya know. If it's all s-set...."
Hahaha
It's ironic how the siblings have been waiting for the Board for the entire season and can't stop talking about it but once in the D-Day, they blew it up with their ego, arrogance, and betrayal. I bet if all of them trapped in a ship or spaceship, they will press the "Self Detonate" button just to kill each other.
Just got spoiled because of this stupid UA-cam algorithm and that stupid video title
Shiv has belittled and under estimated Tom in every single series but she literally gets angry when she is outplayed by Tom. Tom is only doing what Shiv would do to him and has done to him in their entire marriage. What she said to Matdsen about Tom was disgusting. Politics and power moves I get but no one should ever disrespect their mate the way she did and Madsen saw how ruthless she could be towards the man that she is pregnant for so I am sure he thought she would do the same to him. And there lies the reason why he chose Tom instead of her.
hm but nothing towards tom for staying silent when mattson said the most horrible misogynistic things about her? they were playing the game, that's all it is, it's nothing personal. they put each other down to display their unemotional unbiased subservienxe.
@@patheticgirl1000 he didn't defend her honor cus there was none left to defend, she killed every reason for him to be chivalrous.
It is incredibly personal. Shiv was ready to unabashedly backstab everyone of her family to get her way. Tom said just enough to get the job done, he listened quietly, he wasn't just waiting to speak, he actually sincerely listened to orders.
@@shadow_realm47 shiv WAS willing to backstab everyone in her family you're right. but she would do it for tom. that's what she did when they were choosing the scapegoat for cruises and thats what she did in the finale too. obviously tom is hurt by her constantly disrespecting him in front of others which makes sense. but from the finale we can see that he understands exactly what she means when she puts him down.
its not just about her honor, but his own. mattson telling tom to his face that he wants to fuck his pregant wife is blatant disrespect for him, his wife and his child. we know that tom hadn't completely lost his desire for her in his life since he took her back at the end, so mattson saying that was absolutely a hit to his and his family's honor. but he didn't say anything because he understood the game.
The ominous music that kicks in here, when Logan is giving his speech at atn and when Kendall talks to Hugo about being the only ceo, it’s amazing. Truly the music in this show is amazing.
one of my faves!! listen to it all the time lol
0:50 “oh, man oh man” Tom getting ready to use Greg as a footstool.
The number one boy almost made it. Almost. Did shiv save him or kill him? We wouldn’t ever know. All we know is- he made his whole life about the top job. It was promised to him when he was 7. Except the company he has nothing. No kids, no wife, no dad, no friends, no partner, - just Colin.
A perfect completion of the tragic arc of Kendall Roy. Jeremy Strong, you are such a fucking legend for playing him this well. A Lady Macbeth kinda person, with a serious but childish demeanour, comical and tragic at the same time.
In the long run shiv probably saved Kendell, he probably would have failed as CEO and that would have definitely ruined him. He'll probably bounce back do his own thing with the billions he just got from the deal
@@reidgrant7036 yes but as kendall said- he is a cog just for this machine. Shiv should’ve known that. Kendall has nothing now. Nobody. No one. This has completely broken him.
Matthew's voice weaves in and out from one demeanor to another, like a comforting muppet to Darth Vader. 😅
Why wouldn't he go for an empty fking suit, Shiv?
Shiv's impression of Tom always kills me. 😂
Shiv constantly underestimates Tom. Great scene.
As I look back at this show, it’s really funny to me how these people have BILLIONS of dollars and they all choose to fight to have the worst job when they could all do literally anything else and succeed. I get that that’s the point, but if any of us non-billionaires were in their shoes, I think we’d all have cashed out and be sitting on a private island.
We all want what we don't have. Us non-billionaires want to pay our bills, support our loved ones, and be comfortable, and overcoming the barriers to that gives us purpose. The billionaires have no purpose, so they're fighting over the chair because it's the one thing they can't have.
That's why Tom ultimately made CEO. He doesn't want a legacy, he's perfectly happy being a forgettable puppet if it means financial security for the rest of his life. The siblings wanted to be the next Logan, they never realized Logan's legacy was irrelevant to him. He only ever cared about the money, just like Tom.
@@Mwstmrlnd Idk if Logan cared about the money, he just wanted to f***ing win every chance he got. Tom is motivated more by fear of losing. Still better than the kids though who had zero self-motivation.
@@iansteenblock5010 That's pretty sad, but you're right of course
the truth is shiv has fallen in love with tom since that fight at the tailgate party. she was apologizing since. she likes the new tom.
She respects him when he rejects her, which isn't a recipe for happiness. Mind you, it's always convenient to be married to your husband, right?
“Why do think I came all this way?” - Greg the Broken
Shiv fans can't possibly support her final decision after seeing this. Shiv is clearly upset here that Tom was picked over her, him telling her that Matsson picked him if anything made the situation worse. She only nuked the vote out of pure spite for Kendall. Pretending Shiv made some 4D chess move at the vote ruins a good ending, the sibs could never get out of each others way. Shiv and Roman have a deep sense of hatred for Kendall, it explains why they would bring up his lowest point with the waiter and insult his kids at the end.
Thank God somebody said this. They had the numbers. Roman tried to stand up and be THE GUY but he was reduced to a squealing little pig in front of all the power. Shiv got played royally by Matson, it was Ken that engineered the reverse Viking strategy. Roman earlier was crying and asking Ken why Isn’t it Me? Like why don’t I have in me, what you have in you? And through his tears he tells Ken he hates him. And they bring up his kids, and his earlier mistake, like why? It was absolutely since we can’t have it, you won’t either, so they burned down the castle out of jealousy and spite. Simple as that. It was not some elaborate scheme by Shiv her little fat faced jealousy was angry it wasn’t her. She said earlier to Ken at her mothers house why can’t you accept you’ve lost, and take it like a man? Remember that? Yet when she lost, she couldn’t take it like a woman. She spazzes out and screws everyone. Screw Shiv.
Fat little faced jealousy? Good stuff, as Shiv would say. Always nice to say things about pregnant women
Mattson will burn Logan‘s legacy into the ground. He is a sociopath by the book!
Tom is like the only child Logan needed but couldn't have.
don’t bet on it. any child logan would have had, he would have them fucked up. also, tom is a suck-up, the likes of him and greg are logan’s legacy, because that’s the only thing that grows near him, people who suck up to shit in order to survive. no one with vision survives and no one gets to evolve or develop a vision. same with mattson, except he would probably just ignore his kids, if he’d ever have any. logan takes care of logan.
Love the way she says 'Good .....fucking .....luck'
At the end of the confrontation, just like her dad
Fucking phenominal. Even though we all had our ideas as to who would ascend, I'm sure we all had a tiny hint of the idea that none of them would. Hell, even I thought Ken would finally go into beast mode and win. But Tom?....never would've seen that coming in a million years😅.
What a play. What. A. Play....
Bravo, HBO.
lots of us saw it coming
@@KingMinosxxvi
Well ovbiously I was incapable of seeing that far ahead then. 🤷♂️
Anytime Shiv is saying “yea?” Or “yea!” Over and over she was always fucked haha
Shiv told Tom she was above him so often she never considered that was only because Logan was her dad and she’d be worthless without him.
This is the moment Tom becomes Heisenberg
Bro im so happy, was rooting for Tom and all the bullshit he endured with this family and my boy got the big Win ! I won through him, I'm so happy that i even think i won with him
Sweet revenge !!!
It was Matsson who won, because he owns the company. Tom is just his empty suit puppet.
He suffered first but won against them in the end
We have the numbers but Tom knows Shiv will always live up to her name and stab her ally in the back.
Calls him an "empty suit" and he kinda looks around. Perfect.
Sad this show ended but it was actually the perfect ending…”you are not serious people”
There was a part of him hoping his wife would support him
The irony Is she did it, the wrong way, at the end. Same outcome, but instead of a possibily loving marriage she ends up with a broken one.
It’s so funny to watch. His “wow” is sincere but not because he just learned it’s not her, it’s because she found out and who talked. And then it takes him a minute to make his next move which is to tell the truth to get her vote.
God I hate shiv Sarah snook is too good
Self interest above all else is everybody's mantra.
This inflection point, just brilliant!
Does any of you realize the only way for Kendall, Shiv, or Roman could ever take over and run their fathers Company would be to buy it like Matsson did? Kendall, Roman, and Shiv wrecked each others lives, and didn't even think about the share holders, just so they could get appointed CEO.
From cuck to king. Way to go Tom!
By literally being a cuck during his interview
Sarah is amazing in this scene
Shiv genuinely bares the most resemblance to Logan. Her facial features but even the way she says 'fuck you' and 'let's fucking go'. Even the 2:36 where she says 'good fucking luck' is identical to Logan's.
The second Tom told her I yelled at the TV "SHES GONNA CHANGE HER VOTE!!!"
Her shoes clicking, god this scene is so good
God I love that scene
Shiv is just so stupid man. She got betrayed by Matsson which we knew would 100% happen. Then when she got to know that it’ll be Tom so she tries her best to rally against Tom, only to then vote in favour of Tom at the last moment???
Am I really the only one saying this? Matsson is the one that won alright? Despite attempts made by Kendall costed him more for the acquisition, he did manage to pull it off and takeover Waystar. That’s it for the Roy’s Dynasty man. The siblings are still rich asf but they’re completely outta the game for good and Tom is only CEO because he’s a malleable and manipulatable puppet for Lukas, which means Lukas is actually going to be the mastermind in control of everything. The invading Vikings have prevailed, Succession ends with the only potential succession ruined and the empire subjugated by quite literally a foreigner.
Tom got what he wanted funny enough. Everyone laughed at the thought of him ever getting the chair. Even if he is on strings.
lots of people were rooting for tom. we kinda saw last season finale
as a character, Tom has always been a good actor.
tbh, I like that she ended up choosing her husband, the father of her child.
In the moment I thought Tom made a big mistake by telling Shiv. I was pulling for Ken but didn’t get what I wanted. In hindsight the ending was perfect and this became one of the most satisfying scenes.
"Good luck, MF!" chills
Key words from Tom: “c’mon I know you.”