Geralt: You're not human, that's clear. So what are you? A demon? A djinn? Gaunter O'Dimm: Do you really wish to know? Geralt: Yes. Gaunter O'Dimm: No, Geralt, you don't. This one time I shall spare you and not grant your wish. Me: Those words sent chills down my spine 😱
That, and the moment he stopped time just before. Earlier when he torture the ghost one of the conversation option is that Geralt says you don't have to do this. Guanter O'Dimm simply reply "I can". That's when I know he is more vicious than he seems. But not yet know how powerful he is. For newbies, the time stopping can seem normal. But for those of us who played the Witcher series from 1, we are familiar with the standard of magic in the world. Stopping time is totally next level, the moment it happen I know that I can't mess around with him. Along with the above quote you stated. Powerful delivery. Do you do request? like if there's a game I would like to see.
Unlike other villains, the unique thing that makes Master Mirror so frightening is that we never really know what he is truly capable of. No boss fight. Just mystery.
He is also a puppeteer. He "helped" the ofieri's find their prince just after the Geralt slayed him. He set it up just so he can be in the position to place Geralt in his debt.
@@JFM88Didn't he also inspire the Usurper to seize the throne of Nilfgaard from Emhyr's father, kicking in motion the entire story of Emhyr being cursed, courting Pavetta, Ciri being born and eventually the Northern Wars?
27:09 I never noticed how he looks dead at the camera when he asks if Geralt really wants to know. And then when he tells Geralt he doesn't wish to know he looks at the camera, not at Geralt. That's how you make a terrifying villain.
I find him so fascinating. After watching this a couple of times I realize that he really mirrors the person who he interacts with. He can be cruel if you are cruel, he can be kind if you are kind, he can be stupid if you are stupid, he can be innocent if you are innocent. In Geralts case, he is just neutral, just like Geralt. Carefully watch all the interactions that he has with Geralt. He is neither haughty, arrogant or evil. That does not mean that he cannot be cruel, he can twist your wishes but that is on you because you wished for something without even knowing what exactly you wished for. If you think things through, dont rush in and be general intellegent about what you want, he will always give you a chance and will not cheat and play with you on the same field. His dialogues are superbly written, his character is masterful and the whole dlc gives you much to think about long after you finished it.
He is an unparalleled and highly intellectual being. His powers, wisdom, and vocabulary are unrivaled. And yes, it would really make you think for a long time even after you've finished this DLC, that's why I made this video. I enjoyed this game and I think everything about it is a masterpiece.
@@NamiPlays He can stop time, manipulate the world and see the future. That is another aspect of this, Geralt is just calm while dealing with him. He is not scared, shies away or fears him. Man has just seen too much in his whole life to be afraid of anything. Another reason why Gaunter interacts with him in the way he does. There are limits to how and where he can use his powers but in reality he could kill everyone and anyone he wishes. I think this is exactly why they built in the spoon scene. We, the audience, saw too much niceness from Gaunter. We did not see him as a real threat and this scene was meant to show us exactly what he is. A being outside of the laws of this world, sojmeone that could kill Geralt with a fingersnap if he wished to. To show us he is not a threat like the Wild Hunt but just a truly omnipotent being that can make your wishes come true without a sweat. Hands down, the best DLC in any game. After fighting monsters all game long, after the Wild Hunt, dozen of hours playing a normal game they break it up with something so unexpected like this. 10 out of 10, absolute amazing stuff they delivered. One can easily make an hour long essay about him without running out of content to talk about because there is so much to discover in hindsight about Gaunter.
He's an eldrich being of some sort who is truly neutral for he simply desires to nudge the slightest bit just to see what happens. He's like a guy who sometimes rearranges the stuff in a fish tank just to see how the fish react. After all, we are lesser to him than we think fish are to us
That is why he explicitly mentions several times "I expect honesty" if you are honest with him, he will be honest with you. Olgier tried to be a fox and trick him, so thats why in the end O'Dimm also used cheap tricks of the fake Moon. For the time part, I think that he reflects time also. The time flows forward but he can also mirror it backward.
I thought he was a powerful mage right after the first time I met him. Disappearing leaving Geralt confused? A professional? But I never guessed that he was anything more than a powerful mage...
Its scary knowing the fact he isnt some powerful mage, but turns out to be very godlike who can kill anyone he feels like and walk away out of it. At least he plays fair by the rules.
@@bendover9813 Just to add to your point, Gaunter O' Dimm in the oral contract says, "We three shall meet and thank one another for the voyage we shared". He does not specify where but tells Geralt later to bring Olgierd to the Temple of Lilvani. But to play devil's advocate, the platform that they are standing on at the Temple of Lilvani is meant to be a representation of the Moon on Earth. Perhaps technically, Gaunter O' Dimm could say they are standing on the moon.
@@bendover9813 THE moon doesn't have to mean their worlds moon. There are many moons. They are standing on THE moon outside the cave. Dude should have been more specific.
@@ZEBRACOW13Honestly I'd say gaunter is higher than the elder since there are other elders which means there are others who can rival his strength whereas in gaunters case he is the first and only being in the trilogy we've seen with this much power as of right now he's the strongest
I've thought about this too and it seems that CDPR didn't have the time to fix their script that will match the dialogue and actual rewards. However they were right about this: "But above all I offer a great and true adventure".
A promise is a promise, despite going against him, you did meet your end of the bargain. And so he allowed you to have Olgierd's weapon... But not without getting a little payback on Olgierd with that little cut.
@@NamiPlaysthat's exactly opposite of what you thought, you do get the sword, Olgierd's sword. That's precisely the outcome that Odimm predicted, although not most preferably for him. In any way, the Devil is in the details :)
I expected to meet him again in vanilla right from the first time i saw him. Something about him seemed... important. Never met him again, felt weird. Then the DLC hit. What a ride
I love Gaunters interaction with the old lady where they are just talking about the recipe for a perfect gingerbread cake. In my mind Gaunter is an ageless almost all-powerful being so he lost interest in most of life's pleasures. But he can live through others, that is why he makes contracts and engages so much with mortal humans. Because they are an endless supply of randomness. Cooking and taste is one of those factors that's quite random, especially if you have to do it on feel alone. Gaunter relishes in things like that, I bet it makes him feel alive.
I remembered first playing the witcher 3 main campaign, O'Dimm looked like the most generic NPC who usually introduced you to the open world game... never seen him again through out the main story... then u play heart of stone and he just becomes more and more terrifying... then when u first see him stop time, ouhhh the chills and goosebumps.
He really looks like just some random NPC to talk to when it comes to quests. Then you realize that generic NPC looking guy has powers and he is pretty much the devil….
Also great detail that despite Geralt at this point being most well known as "the white wolf", O'dimm still calls him "butcher of blaviken", a reminder of one of Geralt's greatest failures
I think it would be better if he doesnt, just a mysterious force with no explanation, or mentioned again. But maybe thats just me. Great fuckin' villain tho so i understand your desire lol
@@TheSoldier0fortunEfr I want mystery from him some things are best to be unanswered. I want stuff like finding out the lady hag was cursed by God in blood & wine but you have to find that out yourself
Gaunter O'Dimm is one of my favorite characters of any fantasy universe. I love the concept of an extremely overpowered being toying with humans, but sticking to his own self imposed rules and not going overboard. He's essentially just been vibing for thousands of years, observing and sometimes inserting himself into stories.
And yet, Geralt would rather fight O'dimm than the Unseen Elder. Not because O'dimm is weak, but because he can be reasoned with. While the Unseen Elder is significantly weaker than O'dimm, he's not someone Geralt can beat physically and definitely not someone who listens.
@@NamiPlaysGerald could kill the unseen elder, gaunter is literally a demon. An entity, cannot be killed and Geralt can only reason with him because it promotes gaunters amusement
At 14:00, just realized he appeared out of thin air. Even Geralt, the greatest witcher of the current generation with super human senses couldn't sense him at all.
That fly in the soup kills me. His first concern, "why is there a fly in my soup!" amid Geralt appearing from thin air and the spoon incident. Even with a clamor and important business at hand, when learning Geralt is quick his first thought is "did you put the fly in my soup?!" It's actually quite clear thinking on his part, he almost got it right. He even would've known it was Gaunter if Geralt had let him in that Gaunter was the quick one.
Something I find very interesting: in many of O'Dimm's appearances, there's a red/orange light on his face, making his skin look red, like the devil's.
the thing about gaunter is hes not at all arrogent or egotistical, he knows who he is and how powerful he is and weilds it masterfully he discies himself as nothing more then a vagrent, a ratty begger, inconspiculus and unknoticable truly one of the best written antagonests on games
He telling the truth, Gaunter O'Dimm is not omniscient. Remember how he didn't know Ciri's location ? Or how mutation affects witchers ? Also, Gaunter never lies.
@@stansarecancer2175 Well for him power of word keeps him in this world, witchers world, as soon as Geralt beat him in game he left them alone aknowledging defeat
@@stansarecancer2175 but does he really not know? He seems to guarantee that geralt will find ciri and even knew about how to avoid all the worst outcomes with her.
@@stansarecancer2175 i’m pretty sure that he “doesn’t know” ciri’s location because it would ruin the game if he straight up told you where she is. it’s game logic, rather than lore.
Gaunter O'Dimm never loses so long as you play his game his is fascinated by human action. The good ending is actually the best-case scenario for Gaunter because he's nigh omnipotent he doesn't actually need Enriks soul. He just wants to see fascinating decisions.
Yup. It's possible to do the entire DLC before Isle of Mists, of which afterwards he meets the dwarves. He was never banished, or if he was it wasn't very long.
The Elder is simply another creature from another world that's more powerful than almost anything in the Witcher world. Gaunter is some kind of omniscient being. He's definitely more powerful than any usual demon or djinn. Or a Higher Vampire.
Thing is, everything in Hearts of Stone is what you make of it. Gaunter O'Dimm and Olgierd are both either your ally or the antagonist of the story, depending on how you decide in the end. Everyone in the comments says Gaunter is the Villain or the Antagonist, but when I played it I found him a fascinating tentative ally. I think the greatest reason many see him as a Villain is the spoon scene, but from his perspective he squashed a fly that annoyed him a bit too much (also that drunk guy came across as a parasite if you ask me, Geralt kills better people in the game). When I interacted with him, I never felt threatened, he said very fascinating things, is quite mysterious and one has to be cautious in every interaction of course, but he never came across as someone I had to overcome. Olgierd on the other hand... see, in my playthrough I did what you call the Bad End. I don't think I made the wrong decision. I wouldn't even call it the Bad End. Olgierd deserved whatever happens to him after he dies. He may have had a change of heart in case he survives, but I think there's a greater chance he would continue to go around and cause misery. Is it really a Good End to inflict Olgierd on the world? My answer is no. Olgierd surviving is the Bad End from my point of view. I know many won't agree with me, and I'm not fully sure whether my opinion will stay the same in the future... which is what makes this so fascinating. Your own perspective determines the storyline of Hearts of Stone. Also in case you're wondering, when Gaunter asked what I wanted for a reward, I decided against wishing for one, because none of the options appear to be something Geralt actually needs and in the end what happened was Geralt repaying his debt to Gaunter, if he takes one of the gifts, is it really a gift or is he again in debt? Like I said, I don't see Gaunter as the Villain, but I interact with him cautiously.
"I find it quite funny how even the most rotten scoundrels have this inner compunction to repay 'debts of gratitude. Humans, dwarves, elves ... All races. You really must explain that to me ...'" Subtle foreshadowing - how often does the incarnation of evil, the most powerful known being in the witcher universe, feel gratitude to anyone? O'Dimm embodies the idea of being careful what you wish for. His wicked interpretation of even the most innocent wish will bring misery. But O'Dimm grants Geralt's requests based on what's in Geralt's best interest - even *AFTER* he's done using him. I think O'Dimm was alluding to himself and marvelling at the fact that he truly wanted to reward Geralt for his help, a trait of the mortal races he never expected to experience himself.
He knows Witcher like Geralt are professional and not lusted for some wish. Geralt give him a fair favor just like his ordinary witcher contract, so he repay back in a fair way too. O'dim is like a mirror to our character. If the character was greedy, arrogant, violence, then the wish he granted would mirror their dark side.
It is because he Mirrors the other person. Olgier tried to outfox him by cheap tricks so he also used a cheap trick, the Moon and wishes, on Olgier. Notice how he stresses several times that he expects only Honesty from Geralt. If you fulfill your bargain honestly he would mirror it back and honestly grant the wish.
As I have also said in the other comments, he can be outwitted and can be beaten. But on a head on fight? Impossible. You need to be a God to be on his level.
He's obviously a play on a devil or the devil. He offers bargains and deals that's his core theme, I have no idea why the community has to debate it when it's clear as day. It doesn't matter if Geralt says there's no devils. Geralt is a hunter, nothing more. He knows how to kill and how to survive, he's the fiddler that the devil loses too. To me, it's just that simple.
Except O’Dimm is a play on the Devil of Twardowskian/Faustian legend. In the Bible, the Devil tempts humanity & causes people to sin (on top of humanity actively choosing to sin), whereas Jesus Christ was immune to sin & was subsequently tortured & crucified for the propitiation of sin. In Faust’s & Twardowski’s stories of the Devil, both of them offer up all the glories of this world in the form of wishes, like a genie, but they come at a cost (that being the human soul), and once the pact is over, the Devil comes to collect the souls of those he makes a pact with.
Well Olgierd wasn't himself anymore at that point. Gaunter turned his heart to stone causing him to not feel anything anymore, and yet he still cared enough for Iris to leave her and not cause her anymore pain.
@@notme3603 Ofcourse it's his fault for getting involved with dark magic and Gaunter, but it's not really as simple as you're making it out to be. Odimm is a smart mf, he got Geralt caught up in a contract too..... doesn't mean that it's all Geralt's fault. Furthermore, this isn't about who made the most number of wrong choices. My point was that Olgierd fucked up but he did love Iris and everything he did was for her.
@@notme3603 you think he contacted o dimm himself? How do you know it wasn't the other way around? Geralt met o dimm and he told him about yen so could have been the same for olgerid.
The way the creators use his eyes, how they aren’t quite right, that they as always moving, studying, seeing, and sometimes look right at camera. This man is terrifying.
I think the coolest part about Gaunter O'Dimm is the fact that he looks unimpressive. Since he's all-powerful (seemingly) and he knows it he doesn't need to show off.
@13:32 Damn, the look on O Dimm's face. He has the power to melt him into ashes that very second, but decides that it would be a waste, calms himself down in 2 or 3 seconds, has a very slight smirk on his face, gives a Nilfguaardian bow, and just leaves humbly. Boy o boy. No villain is more terrifying than this guy. Chilling to say the least.
O'Dimm wields contracts. Word-traps, Duels of wits. Challenge him to such and he will agree, and can be beaten. But remember, there is ever only one thing at stake, human souls. Now begone!
When geralt first meet him in white orchard, he's not talking to actual human, but a demon creatures. At that time i really though that this person is just a regular NPC or local villager, but after deeply playing the heart of stone dlc i can tell that he is a terrifying and horrifying creatures and scarier than eredin
If only in the beginning of the game Geralt not coming to white orchard and not do the von everec contract, he'll never meet O'Dimm and Heart's of stone never be happen. So that's some kind of butterfly effect.
When he states 'why would you tell a vagrant'. I got the sense that he was 'embarrassed', because he forgot he was in this role, due to his curiosity. Who knows though. I also think we get the clearest insight into him when he's chatting about gingerbread.
O'Dimm probably isn't just a simple demon, he's way too powerful for that. The guy can manipulate time, for instance. Whatever he is, in terms of power he is close to being a deity, if not there already. Just not a particularly moral deity.
I remember when I asked him who he really was and when he said "no, you dint" the music had this 2012 herobrine creepy pasta build up that just made the whole scene one to remember. This may just be my favorite scene in the whole dlc.
What gave me chills and truly realize how mastercraft the whole story is, was the first time I spied o’dimm off in the background of a cutscene. I had to reload a save cause I didn’t believe it was him. But it was. That shit gave me chills
I dont know why it took me so long to realize what he is. He's not a demon or djinn like Geralt says. He's the straight-up Devil. They meet at a crossroads and he offers deals in exchange for souls. Its so obvious now.
Most bosses have a cool badass armor with edgy streaks. O'dimm however is a bald middle aged man with a peasant's simple garb and shrouded in mystery. Yet can delete our MC anytime he wants.
Am I the few that actually really like Gaunter O'Dimm? He's cunning, but he's fair. Everything he did, albeit ruthless, was within reason given its context.
This whole comment section is fans creaming their pants over him. Some of you guys want to be different SO BAD. Like, 99.9% of the community loved his character, a huge number of that think he’s the most interesting character in the whole game series/series itself. No. No you are not one of the only ones lmao. Not the few, and not special. 😂
@@thebadaids Most of the comments consider him evil, which I don't think he is. That's my whole point, he is fair. Anyways, I hope life gets better for you bro. Must be going through some shit to be that bitter 😂😂😂.
@@GIN.356.A Not bitter, just always seeing a million dudes wanting to be different but got the same comments over and over lol. But if what you got out of this DLC’s story is that he’s fair and not evil in terms of agreeing to his game that’s up to you to lose, you’re not intelligent enough to be commenting on it anyways. It’s not like he just gave wishes out to do it. He’s not a force of good. His “fair” games are for his own amusement in the hopes someone will fail so he can eternally torture them. Everything he does is a set up for pure evil or some type of invisible loop hole that lets him commit the worst atrocities to a person living and dead, purely for the sake of his entertainment and sport. He’s not a grey character. He’s completely chaotic evil that wants you to see him and tries his best to come across as neutral. Anyone in the game that had dealings with him or did research on him had the same conclusion. He was evil itself and it was apparent there was nothing fair about the exchange. About as far away from fair as you could get. Even when he “fairly” lost, he promises revenge and to return because you beat him. Where’s the fairness in that, he loses and has a temper tantrum and will strive to return after losing at his own rules just to torment you for eternity. So, bravo. Even if I misread your original comment, you’re still wrong. Nice job 👏
@@thebadaids you are literally posting a wall of text explaining why some random guy's opinion is wrong lol I'm praying for you bro. You will make rent this month. You will put food on the table. The girl you like will text you back. You will make the gains in the gym. Your hairline will stop receding. 🙏 Sending you this positive energy. Whatever you are going through, it will pass.
@@GIN.356.A If you’re that insecure about your opinion being commented on, I don’t think it’s a good idea for you to post about it to the public. Especially if it leads to you thinking about random men’s love life, bald head and gym habits lmao. I mean, that’s your business. Just kind of strange that’s where your mind goes. 😂
When I finished the DLC I was kinda disappointed with the ending. The last part was too short, the riddle was too easy. I felt like it was unfinished and rushed. But now I love it. There is no epic fight, no death, no body. He just kinda disappears. It really feels like the quest didn't end yet. When you go playing other quests, your unconscious still keeps whispering, that he could return at any moment to finish the story. That he's not gone. He's still playing... It has never ended... Edit: WHAT THE HELL! I just watched a video about what he really says right before he disappears: "You're a proud fool, who doesn't even realize his insignificance. You think you've won, but you're wrong. I cannot die. I'm going now, but I'll be back." That perfectly fits what I wrote.
@@NamiPlaysRight after I edited the comment I was curious if you also have a translation and watched that part. It's great you also added it Though the other video I've watched explained the translated saying in more depth.
CD Project RED in interview: "When we were creating Gaunter O'Dimm character we were inspired by Walter o'Dim (Stephen King), Gustavo Fring (Breaking Bad) and the Devil from polish folk tale".
1:59 Here Gaunter O'Dimm means in a subtle way that he maybe stopped time to "see" who is Geralt, 2:08 O'Dimm stops time again to do some research and give Geralt an answer
Master Mirror is my all time favourite villain. The fact that he is honest is congruent to the idea that he is who he is to impose how powerful he truly is. He can clap and stop time and treats his own word and spirit of any agreement he makes as law to be abided by. He does all of this by choice, and that really produced a foreboding that was so intimidating the impact it had on the audience was so profound it lasts beyond your playthrough. Truly excellent writing by CDPR.
I don't get why is he always though of as an ultimate evil. I mean.. he is kinda bad and terrifying, but somehow thoughful and good in some sense. Probably refering to the mirror symbol, that he reflects the behaviour of others. He is evil when it comes to the matter of von Everec, cause he was in some sense evil as well. But whenever anyone is caring, he reflects the behavior as well, when Geralt was looking for Ciri, he tells him he will find her, and tells him how to act (in order to get good ending). Same when Shani had this sad moment at the wedding he told Geralt what to do to make her happy. It just depends of the point of view nur evil nur good. That's why this character is so brilliantly written, it's not like you know "this is the ultimate villian who has to be killed no matter what" like Eredin for example.
I get what you're saying, and to some extent I agree. What I'd also say makes him seem perhaps even more profoundly evil than a character like Eredin, or even the Crones, is that his motives aren't nearly as superficial or easily determined as either of theirs. For all intents and purposes, he plays a game on such a different, alien level when compared to other 'bad' characters in the game, that he clearly gives the impression of being totally above the trappings of mortal thought. He really does behave like some cosmic force, and I think his true 'evil' is his unyielding nature. He'll take someone's wayward desires, and instead of attempting to steer them out of it like a 'good' person would do, will inflame and exploit them to the point where an ordinary wish turns a person into a force of destruction directed at the world around them. He basically weaponises people, which I find to be perhaps the ultimate form of evil (not to mention we have no idea what he gets up to at home, once he claims someone's soul).
And, off the back of that, it's actually almost antithetical to Geralt's character. Where Geralt sees the evil in the world, in ordinary people and in monsters, with a fairly clear mind, and decides quite frequently to approach that with forgiveness and/or mercy, Gaunter sees it and approaches it as an opportunity, furthering and deepening it to draw out someone's suffering if they'll allow him.
When geralt asked about o dimms name, gaunter "spared" geralt because knowing his name would have left geralt with either being dead or even suffer a worse fate. Shakeslock was probably on the precipice of knowing Gaunter's real name. Gaunter stopped him with the circle curse, because had shakeslock discovered his name...his name would be known by many others. How could Gaunter play his games if everyone who inquired about him knew him? Awsome game btw!
Or knowing his true name is the way to defeating him since he is the devil / extremely powerful daemon character from another realm. This is a trope in horror movies (especially based on Ed/Lorraine Warren who proclaimed to be demonologists) and also has a very strong basis in European folklore and Christian theology. God created the Heaven and the Earth using words, and God gave Adam the power to name things, which subsequently meant that he wielded power over them (or at least was higher in authority than them) and thus he named the animals and his wife. Thus demons do not reveal their true names to people lest people gain control over them (this is why exorcists need to learn the name of the demon during an exorcism to dispel it) and may then use that name to destroy them. There are many stories like that in European folklore as well, even making it into popular franchises like Warhammer. Knowing the true name of an evil entity is key in defeating said evil entity. That is probably also the reason why Gaunter is neither omniscient (said himself so literally and did not know where Ciri or Yennefer was) nor omnipotent (he cannot interfere with Destiny, as he himself states, and he is still bound by certain rules) With destiny being the driving force of both the books and the games it implies the existence of an entity more powerful than even Gaunter himself, although he may not manifest himself physically. In other words, such entity could be the Witcher's version of the Abrahamitic God. Gaunter cannot tamper with destiny as like a biblical prophesy it is set unto stone by God himself.
The thing is: every other demon, monster, creature, you fight. And kill. But no matter how many times you reload, or you win, he is still. There. He is one of very few truly eldritch game characters. Bloodborne lets you kill the nightmares. Returnal lets you kill the nightmares. But o'dimm? No. The worst you can do is get him to leave for a while.
Hes telling the truth. He didnt know where ciri is. Or that witcher mutations cause a lack of emotions and that olgierd visited the grave of his brother
This was such an interesting character. Def one of my fav game villains. Wild hunt were forgettable af. They were barely explored at all. And they were elves…. This guy was charismatic, mysterious, creepy and genuinely threatening.
I love Gaunter as the villian. He is the best one in the whole game. Everytime I play it, I keep him alive. I want to see the ending with Olgierd every time but I cant bring myself to do the riddlegame with Gaunter. He is to amazing to go against him. No matter how much suffering he brings into the witcher-world. I will always let him walk away. He is to cool
Just want to make it clear that you aren't the one that lets Gaunter walk away, it's the other way around. Gaunter could destroy the world by just clapping with his hands...
Wait a minute, you don't actually believe that solving his riddle kills him do you? Regardless of whether you do his riddle or not you "keep him alive", he says so himself in his last words that he'll return before Geralt banishes him albeit in different languages after you beat him, he's not dead even if Geralt wins. Personally I'd say go with the good ending because unless I misunderstood your reasoning behind letting "him walk away" your decision seems to be based on misinformation, then again it's ultimately your choice so you do you. Personally I never miss the chance to see Geralt go up against what is essentially the Witcher world's equivalent of the Devil personified, just letting him go is too anticlimactic for this story's conclusion.
@@Tim7318-3 Except he LETS the witcher win, presumably for future content (or he knows he needs him in the future in absolute)... Surely a soul collector of his caliber would not miss an opportunity where he is allowed to do anything and earn 2 souls for the price of one. The clauses for that last pact were non-existent to begin with and he leaves basically clapping. Also the translation of the last words are too crude. He is not gloating, he is actually hinting the fact that he let him win. iirc the middle sentence was in ancient georgian and its true translation leads to this. Surely (or rather hopefully) we will have O'Dimm in Witcher 4, as one of the main characters.
@@teleman07 I truly hope that we never seen O'Dimm again. I beleive he was the best villian in all gaming. But much of his coolnes comes from mystery and the unknown. If we include it again then it will factually loose some of its charm, because they will never go a mystery route again. We will get to know something about him which will never be as good of an answer as fan theoris or headcannon. I think the only thing they can do to him is to worsen it at best and ruin it at worst. At least that is what I think
@@notrather5514 This is why we do not have Back to the Future 4. Is it good? Judging by Star Wars, prequels were gold that was pissed on for this exact reason. Now, half of those people died of old age, other half seen the Disney disaster and went senile. So, it is probably for the better but if done right his mystery can create a legendary Witcher character while still remaining a mystery.
I love how he starts out fully incognito, claiming he knows where Yennefer is by overhearing Nilfgaardians, revealing nothing about his true identity. Then as Heart of Stone progresses, you begin to realize he's not what he appears. He doesn't display his capabilities, but cryptically alludes to them. He is not a normal mage, there's something special about him. By the end of the story he's stopping time and descending from an invisible staircase in the sky. All for shits and giggles.
Rewatching Gaunter's scenes, i find describing Olgierd as a degenerate monster in human flesh that feeds in the pain and suffering of others is incredibly ironic
Not gonna lie, first time I played and meet Gaunter, I felt something was off. The voice acting, the feeling the character knew to much. But kind of bruched it off and actually forget who he was when he reappeared in the DLC.
At 4:04 is when you notice something .. the light shining in his eyes saying “because, you do wish to disembark, do you not?”.. the contract that binded Geralt to him
I just realized both Regis and O'Dimm talk about humans desire to reciprocate favors. Regis comments on the usefulness of reciprocacy when talking about the shoe shine boy. O'Dimm however, as we all know, uses it for much darker purposes.
5:04 spoons are a thing for Gaunter O' Dimm. He also breaks a spoon to curse Marlene de Trastamara and turn her into a spotted wight, after Merlene denies him food. Geralt can lift the curse during the Quest "The Hunger Game".
In a game that you can sink a hundred hours into, he doesn't even have an hour of screentime. Honestly, at least for me, he has left the largest impression out of the whole cast.
this plot seems familiar, remember hearing a old folklore about something simular when eating dinner. it was about some guy who had bargined with the devil for his soul, but it could only get collected if he ever went to rome. so ofc the man never went to rome, but one day he went to a tavern called rise, and thus the devil appeared and claimed his soul. the man didnt know rome meant rise, however not sure in what language he said it was.
Here I raise my toast 🥂to The Most Powerful character (protagonist + antagonist) in a videogame I have ever come across. And I am not talking just about The Witcher 3 (or The Witcher) universe. Before arriving to this video, I was watching a couple of really OP Resident Evil bosses, the likes of Nemesis, Jack Baker, Eveline, Mother Miranda and Karl Heisenberg and Lady Alcina Dimitrescu. However, as OP and virtually invincible they all were, they could eventually be killed by humans by exploiting their weaknesses (mostly vaccines for the viruses or other weaknesses of the mold they were infected with) and by dealing enough damage with weaponry. And this is where Gaunter O'Dimm (Master Mirror or The Man of Glass) overshadows them. He is Evil Incarnate and he is the only character I have come across in any videogame who cannot be killed. The only character who can manipulate Time itself at his will and grant wishes while exploiting humans. He is the OP of all OPs. What a character !!!!!!
In my very first run, I actually refused all the rewards too. I was too immersed with the suspense and I got intimidated by O'Dimm's sinister powers. I think refusing all the rewards is kind of normal when fear is instilled to the player. It's a real cinematic experience.
Same for me, I thought he might even be stronger as the unssen elder, whom you can't fight and will kill you if you annoy him. (which he practically is since he even can stop time) I also refused all of his rewards since I thought he would screw me over as he did with Olgierd.
Geralt: You're not human, that's clear. So what are you? A demon? A djinn?
Gaunter O'Dimm: Do you really wish to know?
Geralt: Yes.
Gaunter O'Dimm: No, Geralt, you don't. This one time I shall spare you and not grant your wish.
Me: Those words sent chills down my spine 😱
@Nami Plays do you know the intro song name? Its catchy
That, and the moment he stopped time just before. Earlier when he torture the ghost one of the conversation option is that Geralt says you don't have to do this. Guanter O'Dimm simply reply "I can". That's when I know he is more vicious than he seems. But not yet know how powerful he is.
For newbies, the time stopping can seem normal. But for those of us who played the Witcher series from 1, we are familiar with the standard of magic in the world. Stopping time is totally next level, the moment it happen I know that I can't mess around with him. Along with the above quote you stated. Powerful delivery.
Do you do request? like if there's a game I would like to see.
@@gooddreams8495 Depends if I will be able to. What's the game? I will try if I can :)
@@Justinbadger4 One Piece OST - Nami Theme :)
@@NamiPlays Yeahh he's actually the devil. CDPR dropped it in an interview ;)
Unlike other villains, the unique thing that makes Master Mirror so frightening is that we never really know what he is truly capable of. No boss fight. Just mystery.
He is also a puppeteer. He "helped" the ofieri's find their prince just after the Geralt slayed him. He set it up just so he can be in the position to place Geralt in his debt.
@@JFM88Didn't he also inspire the Usurper to seize the throne of Nilfgaard from Emhyr's father, kicking in motion the entire story of Emhyr being cursed, courting Pavetta, Ciri being born and eventually the Northern Wars?
@@Master-Mirror source?
@@JFM88 There's an official trailer here on UA-cam involving O'Dimm. In it, this is heavily implied.
Also he is much stronger than Geralt
27:09 I never noticed how he looks dead at the camera when he asks if Geralt really wants to know. And then when he tells Geralt he doesn't wish to know he looks at the camera, not at Geralt. That's how you make a terrifying villain.
9:10 feels like that too, though a bit less direct. Like he's talking to the player, offering a chance at true adventure.
I find him so fascinating. After watching this a couple of times I realize that he really mirrors the person who he interacts with. He can be cruel if you are cruel, he can be kind if you are kind, he can be stupid if you are stupid, he can be innocent if you are innocent. In Geralts case, he is just neutral, just like Geralt. Carefully watch all the interactions that he has with Geralt. He is neither haughty, arrogant or evil. That does not mean that he cannot be cruel, he can twist your wishes but that is on you because you wished for something without even knowing what exactly you wished for. If you think things through, dont rush in and be general intellegent about what you want, he will always give you a chance and will not cheat and play with you on the same field. His dialogues are superbly written, his character is masterful and the whole dlc gives you much to think about long after you finished it.
He is an unparalleled and highly intellectual being. His powers, wisdom, and vocabulary are unrivaled. And yes, it would really make you think for a long time even after you've finished this DLC, that's why I made this video. I enjoyed this game and I think everything about it is a masterpiece.
@@NamiPlays He can stop time, manipulate the world and see the future. That is another aspect of this, Geralt is just calm while dealing with him. He is not scared, shies away or fears him. Man has just seen too much in his whole life to be afraid of anything. Another reason why Gaunter interacts with him in the way he does. There are limits to how and where he can use his powers but in reality he could kill everyone and anyone he wishes. I think this is exactly why they built in the spoon scene. We, the audience, saw too much niceness from Gaunter. We did not see him as a real threat and this scene was meant to show us exactly what he is. A being outside of the laws of this world, sojmeone that could kill Geralt with a fingersnap if he wished to. To show us he is not a threat like the Wild Hunt but just a truly omnipotent being that can make your wishes come true without a sweat. Hands down, the best DLC in any game. After fighting monsters all game long, after the Wild Hunt, dozen of hours playing a normal game they break it up with something so unexpected like this. 10 out of 10, absolute amazing stuff they delivered.
One can easily make an hour long essay about him without running out of content to talk about because there is so much to discover in hindsight about Gaunter.
He is the devil, and he does have limits.
He's an eldrich being of some sort who is truly neutral for he simply desires to nudge the slightest bit just to see what happens. He's like a guy who sometimes rearranges the stuff in a fish tank just to see how the fish react. After all, we are lesser to him than we think fish are to us
That is why he explicitly mentions several times "I expect honesty" if you are honest with him, he will be honest with you. Olgier tried to be a fox and trick him, so thats why in the end O'Dimm also used cheap tricks of the fake Moon.
For the time part, I think that he reflects time also. The time flows forward but he can also mirror it backward.
Had no idea this dude would amount to anything in vanilla Witcher 3. Gotta give it to CDPR for having this plan all along.
I thought he was a powerful mage right after the first time I met him.
Disappearing leaving Geralt confused? A professional?
But I never guessed that he was anything more than a powerful mage...
I always found gaunter too off putting with his knowledge to be trustworthy
Its scary knowing the fact he isnt some powerful mage, but turns out to be very godlike who can kill anyone he feels like and walk away out of it.
At least he plays fair by the rules.
@@merimkastrat5846 Very akin to old-school DnD style demons actually. Very "pact-bound" and litigious, but also terrifying.
@@Kraluth Wouldn't that be devils, more than demons?
The fact that Olgierd made it as hard as possible to O'dimm and yet couldn't escape is just terrifying.
Guy didnt knew that yet his proxy will be witcher. Like Gaunter and Ciri said, fate can be really powerful.
To be completely fair, he never fulfilled the contract. He said THE moon, it’s in the fine print. Not A moon, but THE moon. It’s kinda ridiculous.
@@bendover9813 Just to add to your point, Gaunter O' Dimm in the oral contract says, "We three shall meet and thank one another for the voyage we shared". He does not specify where but tells Geralt later to bring Olgierd to the Temple of Lilvani.
But to play devil's advocate, the platform that they are standing on at the Temple of Lilvani is meant to be a representation of the Moon on Earth. Perhaps technically, Gaunter O' Dimm could say they are standing on the moon.
@@bendover9813 THE moon doesn't have to mean their worlds moon. There are many moons. They are standing on THE moon outside the cave. Dude should have been more specific.
@bendover9813 nope that still represents THE moon, not A moon. Even if it isn't literally it.
The most charming and powerful antagonist of the trilogy.
much wider than that, one of the best in all video games
Rivaling that of the Unseen Elder
@@ZEBRACOW13Honestly I'd say gaunter is higher than the elder since there are other elders which means there are others who can rival his strength whereas in gaunters case he is the first and only being in the trilogy we've seen with this much power as of right now he's the strongest
When that music starts, you know you are not in control anymore
He promised us weapons and yet we can only get swords by opposing to him.
I've thought about this too and it seems that CDPR didn't have the time to fix their script that will match the dialogue and actual rewards. However they were right about this: "But above all I offer a great and true adventure".
A promise is a promise, despite going against him, you did meet your end of the bargain. And so he allowed you to have Olgierd's weapon... But not without getting a little payback on Olgierd with that little cut.
Technically he did give you the witcher viper sword and olgierd weapon on his opposition road, so he did fulfill his promise.
@@NamiPlaysthat's exactly opposite of what you thought, you do get the sword, Olgierd's sword. That's precisely the outcome that Odimm predicted, although not most preferably for him. In any way, the Devil is in the details :)
@@restless8638 So he was omniscient after all :)
I love how the "boring long story" of how O'Dim get in the boat is just: i can teleporth everywhere. No long at all.
Tbf, that would be followed with more questions, so the story doesn't end there lol
Gotta hand it to CDPR, you don't come across many villains as terrifying as Master Mirror
and then u have cyberpunk which I couldn't even name a villain from smh
@@radezzientertainment501 there was the erm.... robot guy.
@@karambiatos lmao you right on that 1
Terrifying ? Really ? Im just a simple merchant of mirrors 😈
@@Gaunter_ODimm hi I have a wish
I expected to meet him again in vanilla right from the first time i saw him.
Something about him seemed... important.
Never met him again, felt weird.
Then the DLC hit.
What a ride
I love Gaunters interaction with the old lady where they are just talking about the recipe for a perfect gingerbread cake. In my mind Gaunter is an ageless almost all-powerful being so he lost interest in most of life's pleasures. But he can live through others, that is why he makes contracts and engages so much with mortal humans. Because they are an endless supply of randomness. Cooking and taste is one of those factors that's quite random, especially if you have to do it on feel alone. Gaunter relishes in things like that, I bet it makes him feel alive.
I remembered first playing the witcher 3 main campaign, O'Dimm looked like the most generic NPC who usually introduced you to the open world game... never seen him again through out the main story... then u play heart of stone and he just becomes more and more terrifying... then when u first see him stop time, ouhhh the chills and goosebumps.
then you find something about him in Blood an Wine
He really looks like just some random NPC to talk to when it comes to quests.
Then you realize that generic NPC looking guy has powers and he is pretty much the devil….
@@merimkastrat5846 what’s creepy is that throughout the hos dlc he can be seen spying on geralt
And being so generic-looking is precisely what makes him so brilliant and terrifying as a character
@@jamelgallagher6602 isn’t he in some scenes of the main story too?
Also great detail that despite Geralt at this point being most well known as "the white wolf", O'dimm still calls him "butcher of blaviken", a reminder of one of Geralt's greatest failures
“What do you propose we play? Gwent?”
Geralt: “You got any unique cards when I win?”
Gwent really should have been an options to beat him after dealing with Sasha during the tournament how tough could he be?
I cannot express how much I hope Master Mirror returns in future Witcher media
I think it would be better if he doesnt, just a mysterious force with no explanation, or mentioned again. But maybe thats just me. Great fuckin' villain tho so i understand your desire lol
I can see him returning as another Story or hand placed where we don't interact with him. Just stories of him.
I honestly think it would kinda ruin it. This is perfect
@@TheSoldier0fortunEfr I want mystery from him some things are best to be unanswered. I want stuff like finding out the lady hag was cursed by God in blood & wine but you have to find that out yourself
7:22 Wonder where the choice for Geralt asking "How did you survive that jump?" went
Gaunter O'Dimm is one of my favorite characters of any fantasy universe.
I love the concept of an extremely overpowered being toying with humans, but sticking to his own self imposed rules and not going overboard. He's essentially just been vibing for thousands of years, observing and sometimes inserting himself into stories.
And yet, Geralt would rather fight O'dimm than the Unseen Elder. Not because O'dimm is weak, but because he can be reasoned with. While the Unseen Elder is significantly weaker than O'dimm, he's not someone Geralt can beat physically and definitely not someone who listens.
Well to be fair CDPR doesn't deserve credit, they just used the concept of the story of Mephistopheles and put it in Witcher 3
@@NamiPlaysGerald could kill the unseen elder, gaunter is literally a demon. An entity, cannot be killed and Geralt can only reason with him because it promotes gaunters amusement
At 14:00, just realized he appeared out of thin air. Even Geralt, the greatest witcher of the current generation with super human senses couldn't sense him at all.
That fly in the soup kills me. His first concern, "why is there a fly in my soup!" amid Geralt appearing from thin air and the spoon incident. Even with a clamor and important business at hand, when learning Geralt is quick his first thought is "did you put the fly in my soup?!" It's actually quite clear thinking on his part, he almost got it right. He even would've known it was Gaunter if Geralt had let him in that Gaunter was the quick one.
time flies
@Joe McDermott O dimm is literally the devil in witcher universe. And don't forget one of devils nicknames is the "lord of flies"
and no one mentions the dead guy with the spoon in his eye socket LOL
35:53 Finally someone who makes the choice right before the timer runs out so we can enjoy the intense cutscene
Something I find very interesting: in many of O'Dimm's appearances, there's a red/orange light on his face, making his skin look red, like the devil's.
Pas bête en effet ! :o
the thing about gaunter is hes not at all arrogent or egotistical, he knows who he is and how powerful he is and weilds it masterfully
he discies himself as nothing more then a vagrent, a ratty begger, inconspiculus and unknoticable
truly one of the best written antagonests on games
"I'm not omniscient" Are you SURE about that?
He telling the truth, Gaunter O'Dimm is not omniscient. Remember how he didn't know Ciri's location ? Or how mutation affects witchers ? Also, Gaunter never lies.
@@stansarecancer2175 Well for him power of word keeps him in this world, witchers world, as soon as Geralt beat him in game he left them alone aknowledging defeat
@@stansarecancer2175 but does he really not know? He seems to guarantee that geralt will find ciri and even knew about how to avoid all the worst outcomes with her.
@@jamelgallagher6602 And if he knows Geralt would find Ciri without his help, why should he bother to help if the ending is the same.
@@stansarecancer2175 i’m pretty sure that he “doesn’t know” ciri’s location because it would ruin the game if he straight up told you where she is. it’s game logic, rather than lore.
Gaunter O'Dimm never loses so long as you play his game his is fascinated by human action. The good ending is actually the best-case scenario for Gaunter because he's nigh omnipotent he doesn't actually need Enriks soul. He just wants to see fascinating decisions.
Yup. It's possible to do the entire DLC before Isle of Mists, of which afterwards he meets the dwarves. He was never banished, or if he was it wasn't very long.
Right I don't even think he's mad he lost. He claps for you before being banished.
I don't understand how anyone can think the Unseen Elder is more powerful. Gaunter would make him his bitch.
The Elder is simply another creature from another world that's more powerful than almost anything in the Witcher world.
Gaunter is some kind of omniscient being. He's definitely more powerful than any usual demon or djinn. Or a Higher Vampire.
@@_MaZTeR_ Your comment still implies that Elder is as powerful as G.O.D
Gaunter is leaugues ahead.
@@CrystronHalq yep, the unseen is just a really strong creature with many powers. gaunter is pure evil. literal embodiment of evil.
Thing is, everything in Hearts of Stone is what you make of it. Gaunter O'Dimm and Olgierd are both either your ally or the antagonist of the story, depending on how you decide in the end. Everyone in the comments says Gaunter is the Villain or the Antagonist, but when I played it I found him a fascinating tentative ally. I think the greatest reason many see him as a Villain is the spoon scene, but from his perspective he squashed a fly that annoyed him a bit too much (also that drunk guy came across as a parasite if you ask me, Geralt kills better people in the game). When I interacted with him, I never felt threatened, he said very fascinating things, is quite mysterious and one has to be cautious in every interaction of course, but he never came across as someone I had to overcome.
Olgierd on the other hand... see, in my playthrough I did what you call the Bad End. I don't think I made the wrong decision. I wouldn't even call it the Bad End. Olgierd deserved whatever happens to him after he dies. He may have had a change of heart in case he survives, but I think there's a greater chance he would continue to go around and cause misery. Is it really a Good End to inflict Olgierd on the world? My answer is no. Olgierd surviving is the Bad End from my point of view.
I know many won't agree with me, and I'm not fully sure whether my opinion will stay the same in the future... which is what makes this so fascinating. Your own perspective determines the storyline of Hearts of Stone.
Also in case you're wondering, when Gaunter asked what I wanted for a reward, I decided against wishing for one, because none of the options appear to be something Geralt actually needs and in the end what happened was Geralt repaying his debt to Gaunter, if he takes one of the gifts, is it really a gift or is he again in debt? Like I said, I don't see Gaunter as the Villain, but I interact with him cautiously.
"I find it quite funny how even the most rotten scoundrels have this inner compunction to repay 'debts of gratitude. Humans, dwarves, elves ... All races. You really must explain that to me ...'"
Subtle foreshadowing - how often does the incarnation of evil, the most powerful known being in the witcher universe, feel gratitude to anyone? O'Dimm embodies the idea of being careful what you wish for. His wicked interpretation of even the most innocent wish will bring misery.
But O'Dimm grants Geralt's requests based on what's in Geralt's best interest - even *AFTER* he's done using him. I think O'Dimm was alluding to himself and marvelling at the fact that he truly wanted to reward Geralt for his help, a trait of the mortal races he never expected to experience himself.
He knows Witcher like Geralt are professional and not lusted for some wish. Geralt give him a fair favor just like his ordinary witcher contract, so he repay back in a fair way too. O'dim is like a mirror to our character. If the character was greedy, arrogant, violence, then the wish he granted would mirror their dark side.
@@jakartaajalah holy shit, this is actually genius
It is because he Mirrors the other person. Olgier tried to outfox him by cheap tricks so he also used a cheap trick, the Moon and wishes, on Olgier.
Notice how he stresses several times that he expects only Honesty from Geralt. If you fulfill your bargain honestly he would mirror it back and honestly grant the wish.
@@jakartaajalah well-put, I think that's exactly the sentiment that was intended by this questline
this guy is probably the most terrifying villain i have ever come across in any video game lol
the only Gaunter O'Dimm weakness is He always sticks to the rule of the game that he created himself, if not who knows this guy could capable of.
As I have also said in the other comments, he can be outwitted and can be beaten. But on a head on fight? Impossible. You need to be a God to be on his level.
He's obviously a play on a devil or the devil. He offers bargains and deals that's his core theme, I have no idea why the community has to debate it when it's clear as day. It doesn't matter if Geralt says there's no devils. Geralt is a hunter, nothing more. He knows how to kill and how to survive, he's the fiddler that the devil loses too. To me, it's just that simple.
Well said.
He is a demon that likes to play a travelling merchant in a world with no direct protection from the divine.
Except O’Dimm is a play on the Devil of Twardowskian/Faustian legend. In the Bible, the Devil tempts humanity & causes people to sin (on top of humanity actively choosing to sin), whereas Jesus Christ was immune to sin & was subsequently tortured & crucified for the propitiation of sin. In Faust’s & Twardowski’s stories of the Devil, both of them offer up all the glories of this world in the form of wishes, like a genie, but they come at a cost (that being the human soul), and once the pact is over, the Devil comes to collect the souls of those he makes a pact with.
13:33
*Olgierd:* then begone, i dont wish to look at your face longer than i must
*Gaunter O'Dimm:* granted, you have 2 wishes left
But Geralt grands the wishes, not Gaunter
Love how he doesn't show up once in the daytime, only at night or indoors in the shade
Je n'avais pas fais attention :o
I didn't feel bad at all for giving Olgierd to Gaunter. After visiting Iris and seeing how much she was suffering, I felt like he deserved it.
I agree, I'm not putting my soul on the line for a guy like that.
Well Olgierd wasn't himself anymore at that point. Gaunter turned his heart to stone causing him to not feel anything anymore, and yet he still cared enough for Iris to leave her and not cause her anymore pain.
@@stansarecancer2175 still his fault for playing whit dark magic and dealing whit odim in the first case
@@notme3603 Ofcourse it's his fault for getting involved with dark magic and Gaunter, but it's not really as simple as you're making it out to be. Odimm is a smart mf, he got Geralt caught up in a contract too..... doesn't mean that it's all Geralt's fault. Furthermore, this isn't about who made the most number of wrong choices. My point was that Olgierd fucked up but he did love Iris and everything he did was for her.
@@notme3603 you think he contacted o dimm himself? How do you know it wasn't the other way around? Geralt met o dimm and he told him about yen so could have been the same for olgerid.
The way the creators use his eyes, how they aren’t quite right, that they as always moving, studying, seeing, and sometimes look right at camera. This man is terrifying.
5:43 was O'Dimm whistling the theme of the game itself? Jeez...
I think the coolest part about Gaunter O'Dimm is the fact that he looks unimpressive. Since he's all-powerful (seemingly) and he knows it he doesn't need to show off.
@13:32 Damn, the look on O Dimm's face. He has the power to melt him into ashes that very second, but decides that it would be a waste, calms himself down in 2 or 3 seconds, has a very slight smirk on his face, gives a Nilfguaardian bow, and just leaves humbly. Boy o boy. No villain is more terrifying than this guy. Chilling to say the least.
O'Dimm wields contracts. Word-traps, Duels of wits. Challenge him to such and he will agree, and can be beaten. But remember, there is ever only one thing at stake, human souls. Now begone!
Oui ! L'expression va directement dans le sens : Tu paies rien pour attendre.
xD
When geralt first meet him in white orchard, he's not talking to actual human, but a demon creatures. At that time i really though that this person is just a regular NPC or local villager, but after deeply playing the heart of stone dlc i can tell that he is a terrifying and horrifying creatures and scarier than eredin
If only in the beginning of the game Geralt not coming to white orchard and not do the von everec contract, he'll never meet O'Dimm and Heart's of stone never be happen. So that's some kind of butterfly effect.
When he states 'why would you tell a vagrant'. I got the sense that he was 'embarrassed', because he forgot he was in this role, due to his curiosity. Who knows though.
I also think we get the clearest insight into him when he's chatting about gingerbread.
O'Dimm probably isn't just a simple demon, he's way too powerful for that. The guy can manipulate time, for instance.
Whatever he is, in terms of power he is close to being a deity, if not there already. Just not a particularly moral deity.
"Mine smells like lilac and gooseberries, dresses in black and white."
"Two schnappses!"
:D
I remember when I asked him who he really was and when he said "no, you dint" the music had this 2012 herobrine creepy pasta build up that just made the whole scene one to remember. This may just be my favorite scene in the whole dlc.
Watch it again and look where his eyes go
@@buddermonger2000AAAAAAA
What gave me chills and truly realize how mastercraft the whole story is, was the first time I spied o’dimm off in the background of a cutscene. I had to reload a save cause I didn’t believe it was him. But it was.
That shit gave me chills
If Henry Cavil could come back as Geralt for anything I would love to see a movie of this story with Stanley Tucci as O’Dimm
I dont know why it took me so long to realize what he is. He's not a demon or djinn like Geralt says. He's the straight-up Devil. They meet at a crossroads and he offers deals in exchange for souls. Its so obvious now.
Most bosses have a cool badass armor with edgy streaks. O'dimm however is a bald middle aged man with a peasant's simple garb and shrouded in mystery. Yet can delete our MC anytime he wants.
"im not omniscient"
yeah
sure.
When he said “what do you propose? Play Gwent?” My palms got sweaty af
Am I the few that actually really like Gaunter O'Dimm? He's cunning, but he's fair. Everything he did, albeit ruthless, was within reason given its context.
This whole comment section is fans creaming their pants over him. Some of you guys want to be different SO BAD. Like, 99.9% of the community loved his character, a huge number of that think he’s the most interesting character in the whole game series/series itself. No. No you are not one of the only ones lmao. Not the few, and not special. 😂
@@thebadaids Most of the comments consider him evil, which I don't think he is. That's my whole point, he is fair.
Anyways, I hope life gets better for you bro. Must be going through some shit to be that bitter 😂😂😂.
@@GIN.356.A Not bitter, just always seeing a million dudes wanting to be different but got the same comments over and over lol. But if what you got out of this DLC’s story is that he’s fair and not evil in terms of agreeing to his game that’s up to you to lose, you’re not intelligent enough to be commenting on it anyways. It’s not like he just gave wishes out to do it. He’s not a force of good. His “fair” games are for his own amusement in the hopes someone will fail so he can eternally torture them. Everything he does is a set up for pure evil or some type of invisible loop hole that lets him commit the worst atrocities to a person living and dead, purely for the sake of his entertainment and sport. He’s not a grey character. He’s completely chaotic evil that wants you to see him and tries his best to come across as neutral. Anyone in the game that had dealings with him or did research on him had the same conclusion. He was evil itself and it was apparent there was nothing fair about the exchange. About as far away from fair as you could get. Even when he “fairly” lost, he promises revenge and to return because you beat him. Where’s the fairness in that, he loses and has a temper tantrum and will strive to return after losing at his own rules just to torment you for eternity. So, bravo. Even if I misread your original comment, you’re still wrong. Nice job 👏
@@thebadaids you are literally posting a wall of text explaining why some random guy's opinion is wrong lol
I'm praying for you bro. You will make rent this month. You will put food on the table. The girl you like will text you back. You will make the gains in the gym. Your hairline will stop receding. 🙏 Sending you this positive energy. Whatever you are going through, it will pass.
@@GIN.356.A If you’re that insecure about your opinion being commented on, I don’t think it’s a good idea for you to post about it to the public. Especially if it leads to you thinking about random men’s love life, bald head and gym habits lmao. I mean, that’s your business. Just kind of strange that’s where your mind goes. 😂
My blood always chills when I think of the beggar who came to visit Marlene in Toussaint and cursed her by breaking his spoon in front of her.
2:28 Press X to doubt.
He can be quite terrifying person to piss off. So much that even Netflix used his infamous action in the The Witcher series.
The description that O'dim presents of Everic at 7:50 could very well be about himself. Like a reflection
I love his theme. It's so intimidating
2:28 - "I'm not omniscient'
wait till he gets to hearts of stone
When I finished the DLC I was kinda disappointed with the ending. The last part was too short, the riddle was too easy. I felt like it was unfinished and rushed. But now I love it. There is no epic fight, no death, no body. He just kinda disappears. It really feels like the quest didn't end yet. When you go playing other quests, your unconscious still keeps whispering, that he could return at any moment to finish the story. That he's not gone. He's still playing...
It has never ended...
Edit: WHAT THE HELL! I just watched a video about what he really says right before he disappears: "You're a proud fool, who doesn't even realize his insignificance. You think you've won, but you're wrong. I cannot die. I'm going now, but I'll be back." That perfectly fits what I wrote.
If you fully watched my video, you can also find the Ending with Odimm's final words translated.
@@NamiPlaysRight after I edited the comment I was curious if you also have a translation and watched that part. It's great you also added it
Though the other video I've watched explained the translated saying in more depth.
7:51 The Projection on Porpose is hard on this one
CD Project RED in interview: "When we were creating Gaunter O'Dimm character we were inspired by Walter o'Dim (Stephen King), Gustavo Fring (Breaking Bad) and the Devil from polish folk tale".
1:59 Here Gaunter O'Dimm means in a subtle way that he maybe stopped time to "see" who is Geralt, 2:08 O'Dimm stops time again to do some research and give Geralt an answer
Master Mirror is my all time favourite villain. The fact that he is honest is congruent to the idea that he is who he is to impose how powerful he truly is. He can clap and stop time and treats his own word and spirit of any agreement he makes as law to be abided by. He does all of this by choice, and that really produced a foreboding that was so intimidating the impact it had on the audience was so profound it lasts beyond your playthrough. Truly excellent writing by CDPR.
I don't get why is he always though of as an ultimate evil. I mean.. he is kinda bad and terrifying, but somehow thoughful and good in some sense. Probably refering to the mirror symbol, that he reflects the behaviour of others. He is evil when it comes to the matter of von Everec, cause he was in some sense evil as well. But whenever anyone is caring, he reflects the behavior as well, when Geralt was looking for Ciri, he tells him he will find her, and tells him how to act (in order to get good ending). Same when Shani had this sad moment at the wedding he told Geralt what to do to make her happy.
It just depends of the point of view nur evil nur good. That's why this character is so brilliantly written, it's not like you know "this is the ultimate villian who has to be killed no matter what" like Eredin for example.
He murdered the drunk man in the tavern and tortured the professor. You're a fool if you believe he's anything other than an eldritch monster.
I get what you're saying, and to some extent I agree. What I'd also say makes him seem perhaps even more profoundly evil than a character like Eredin, or even the Crones, is that his motives aren't nearly as superficial or easily determined as either of theirs. For all intents and purposes, he plays a game on such a different, alien level when compared to other 'bad' characters in the game, that he clearly gives the impression of being totally above the trappings of mortal thought. He really does behave like some cosmic force, and I think his true 'evil' is his unyielding nature. He'll take someone's wayward desires, and instead of attempting to steer them out of it like a 'good' person would do, will inflame and exploit them to the point where an ordinary wish turns a person into a force of destruction directed at the world around them. He basically weaponises people, which I find to be perhaps the ultimate form of evil (not to mention we have no idea what he gets up to at home, once he claims someone's soul).
And, off the back of that, it's actually almost antithetical to Geralt's character. Where Geralt sees the evil in the world, in ordinary people and in monsters, with a fairly clear mind, and decides quite frequently to approach that with forgiveness and/or mercy, Gaunter sees it and approaches it as an opportunity, furthering and deepening it to draw out someone's suffering if they'll allow him.
At the end of the day. He is just a traveling merchant.
When geralt asked about o dimms name, gaunter "spared" geralt because knowing his name would have left geralt with either being dead or even suffer a worse fate. Shakeslock was probably on the precipice of knowing Gaunter's real name. Gaunter stopped him with the circle curse, because had shakeslock discovered his name...his name would be known by many others. How could Gaunter play his games if everyone who inquired about him knew him? Awsome game btw!
Or knowing his true name is the way to defeating him since he is the devil / extremely powerful daemon character from another realm. This is a trope in horror movies (especially based on Ed/Lorraine Warren who proclaimed to be demonologists) and also has a very strong basis in European folklore and Christian theology. God created the Heaven and the Earth using words, and God gave Adam the power to name things, which subsequently meant that he wielded power over them (or at least was higher in authority than them) and thus he named the animals and his wife. Thus demons do not reveal their true names to people lest people gain control over them (this is why exorcists need to learn the name of the demon during an exorcism to dispel it) and may then use that name to destroy them.
There are many stories like that in European folklore as well, even making it into popular franchises like Warhammer. Knowing the true name of an evil entity is key in defeating said evil entity.
That is probably also the reason why Gaunter is neither omniscient (said himself so literally and did not know where Ciri or Yennefer was) nor omnipotent (he cannot interfere with Destiny, as he himself states, and he is still bound by certain rules) With destiny being the driving force of both the books and the games it implies the existence of an entity more powerful than even Gaunter himself, although he may not manifest himself physically. In other words, such entity could be the Witcher's version of the Abrahamitic God. Gaunter cannot tamper with destiny as like a biblical prophesy it is set unto stone by God himself.
@@sandercohen9712Now THAT is interesting to learn.
@@sandercohen9712 Damn.
4:05 sneaky way of getting Geralt to accept a wish.
That's a very clever detail
One of the greatest villans of all time
,,Do you really wish to know?"
I know everyone goes on about O’Dimm killing the guy with the spoon, but the way he looks at Olgierd at 13:40 is just plain terrifying.
it's a look of someone deciding whether or not to smash a bug.
@@Lunarcheese72 worse
It’s a look of someone looking at less then a bug and knowing he’ll get to play and toy whit it
While his theme song was playing in the background just made it more scarier
He is all over him
Yeah people usually stick to one detail the others have alreday mentioned, first time I see this, and true, it's pretty damn good
I love how darkly clever Master Mirror is.
"I'm not omniscient", says the bastard.
The thing is: every other demon, monster, creature, you fight. And kill.
But no matter how many times you reload, or you win, he is still. There.
He is one of very few truly eldritch game characters. Bloodborne lets you kill the nightmares. Returnal lets you kill the nightmares.
But o'dimm? No. The worst you can do is get him to leave for a while.
He scared me more than any monster in horror video games
lmao him saying “I’m not omniscient” in his first scene. What a troll.
He never lies, rule one.
Hes telling the truth. He didnt know where ciri is. Or that witcher mutations cause a lack of emotions and that olgierd visited the grave of his brother
13:38 his smile is devilish
he looks like that fucking cat meme with the knife
@@fannitoth5748 never seen that meme but i will look for it
"Humans, Elves, Dwarves, all races. You really must explain that to me one day."
First clue that he's not human.
This was such an interesting character. Def one of my fav game villains. Wild hunt were forgettable af. They were barely explored at all. And they were elves….
This guy was charismatic, mysterious, creepy and genuinely threatening.
I love Gaunter as the villian. He is the best one in the whole game. Everytime I play it, I keep him alive. I want to see the ending with Olgierd every time but I cant bring myself to do the riddlegame with Gaunter. He is to amazing to go against him. No matter how much suffering he brings into the witcher-world. I will always let him walk away. He is to cool
Just want to make it clear that you aren't the one that lets Gaunter walk away, it's the other way around. Gaunter could destroy the world by just clapping with his hands...
Wait a minute, you don't actually believe that solving his riddle kills him do you? Regardless of whether you do his riddle or not you "keep him alive", he says so himself in his last words that he'll return before Geralt banishes him albeit in different languages after you beat him, he's not dead even if Geralt wins. Personally I'd say go with the good ending because unless I misunderstood your reasoning behind letting "him walk away" your decision seems to be based on misinformation, then again it's ultimately your choice so you do you. Personally I never miss the chance to see Geralt go up against what is essentially the Witcher world's equivalent of the Devil personified, just letting him go is too anticlimactic for this story's conclusion.
@@Tim7318-3 Except he LETS the witcher win, presumably for future content (or he knows he needs him in the future in absolute)... Surely a soul collector of his caliber would not miss an opportunity where he is allowed to do anything and earn 2 souls for the price of one. The clauses for that last pact were non-existent to begin with and he leaves basically clapping. Also the translation of the last words are too crude. He is not gloating, he is actually hinting the fact that he let him win. iirc the middle sentence was in ancient georgian and its true translation leads to this.
Surely (or rather hopefully) we will have O'Dimm in Witcher 4, as one of the main characters.
@@teleman07 I truly hope that we never seen O'Dimm again. I beleive he was the best villian in all gaming. But much of his coolnes comes from mystery and the unknown. If we include it again then it will factually loose some of its charm, because they will never go a mystery route again. We will get to know something about him which will never be as good of an answer as fan theoris or headcannon.
I think the only thing they can do to him is to worsen it at best and ruin it at worst. At least that is what I think
@@notrather5514 This is why we do not have Back to the Future 4. Is it good? Judging by Star Wars, prequels were gold that was pissed on for this exact reason. Now, half of those people died of old age, other half seen the Disney disaster and went senile.
So, it is probably for the better but if done right his mystery can create a legendary Witcher character while still remaining a mystery.
37:19- lord have mercy on my soul that laugh
I love how he starts out fully incognito, claiming he knows where Yennefer is by overhearing Nilfgaardians, revealing nothing about his true identity.
Then as Heart of Stone progresses, you begin to realize he's not what he appears. He doesn't display his capabilities, but cryptically alludes to them. He is not a normal mage, there's something special about him.
By the end of the story he's stopping time and descending from an invisible staircase in the sky. All for shits and giggles.
32:14 Holy sh-t. You can actually hear Olgierd's heart start beating.
Because Gunther Odim does not give you what you want, but what you ask for.
Rewatching Gaunter's scenes, i find describing Olgierd as a degenerate monster in human flesh that feeds in the pain and suffering of others is incredibly ironic
george floyd fried chicken is soooo yummy
Like a Crossroads Demon, O'Dimm couldn't give him the mark until he consented. Brilliant.
Funny thing about the symbol gaunter o dimm puts on you. It’s the same symbol the witches of crook back bog used on Anna
Iv been looking for this everywhere
Not gonna lie, first time I played and meet Gaunter, I felt something was off. The voice acting, the feeling the character knew to much. But kind of bruched it off and actually forget who he was when he reappeared in the DLC.
Le doublage a beaucoup joué ! Même en fr :o
By far my favorite character
First time meeting gaunter: "😂🖕😂"
Last time meeting gaunter"...☠️..."
At 4:04 is when you notice something .. the light shining in his eyes saying “because, you do wish to disembark, do you not?”.. the contract that binded Geralt to him
Ignore this, just leaving this so I can continue where I left off later 25:31
When he asked me in HoS if I remembered him, I answered in all honesty that I didn't.
I just realized both Regis and O'Dimm talk about humans desire to reciprocate favors. Regis comments on the usefulness of reciprocacy when talking about the shoe shine boy. O'Dimm however, as we all know, uses it for much darker purposes.
5:04 spoons are a thing for Gaunter O' Dimm. He also breaks a spoon to curse Marlene de Trastamara and turn her into a spotted wight, after Merlene denies him food. Geralt can lift the curse during the Quest "The Hunger Game".
"what'd you have me fall in love with, width? Tsk tsk tsk" - Gaunter O'Dimm
In a game that you can sink a hundred hours into, he doesn't even have an hour of screentime. Honestly, at least for me, he has left the largest impression out of the whole cast.
Didn’t notice how he appears until now 14:01
Wow! Even I missed that!
wow
Yup, this video is exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
this plot seems familiar, remember hearing a old folklore about something simular when eating dinner.
it was about some guy who had bargined with the devil for his soul, but it could only get collected if he ever went to rome.
so ofc the man never went to rome, but one day he went to a tavern called rise, and thus the devil appeared and claimed his soul. the man didnt know rome meant rise, however not sure in what language he said it was.
Legend of Twardowsky
Actually a very popular legend here in Poland
" I'm not omniscient "
sure thing.
8:08 "associates"? i swear that this sounds more mysterious than G-man saying "employers"
Here I raise my toast 🥂to The Most Powerful character (protagonist + antagonist) in a videogame I have ever come across. And I am not talking just about The Witcher 3 (or The Witcher) universe. Before arriving to this video, I was watching a couple of really OP Resident Evil bosses, the likes of Nemesis, Jack Baker, Eveline, Mother Miranda and Karl Heisenberg and Lady Alcina Dimitrescu. However, as OP and virtually invincible they all were, they could eventually be killed by humans by exploiting their weaknesses (mostly vaccines for the viruses or other weaknesses of the mold they were infected with) and by dealing enough damage with weaponry.
And this is where Gaunter O'Dimm (Master Mirror or The Man of Glass) overshadows them. He is Evil Incarnate and he is the only character I have come across in any videogame who cannot be killed. The only character who can manipulate Time itself at his will and grant wishes while exploiting humans. He is the OP of all OPs. What a character !!!!!!
I never wanted to save Olgierd, but my OCD couldn't stand only having 5/6 pieces of the viper gear.
O'dimm had me so shook i literally sided with him and refused all rewards 😱
In my very first run, I actually refused all the rewards too. I was too immersed with the suspense and I got intimidated by O'Dimm's sinister powers. I think refusing all the rewards is kind of normal when fear is instilled to the player. It's a real cinematic experience.
Same for me, I thought he might even be stronger as the unssen elder, whom you can't fight and will kill you if you annoy him. (which he practically is since he even can stop time) I also refused all of his rewards since I thought he would screw me over as he did with Olgierd.
I just asked him to make me rich, he was disappointed in me 😅