BNSF Stalls at Tehachapi Loop 11/13/11

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  • @williamanderson6142
    @williamanderson6142 5 років тому +3

    This is my fave go to vid when i want to see ridiculously brutal horsepower at work,the thing fills the whole valley? Amazing,thanks so much for a great clip.

  • @martinagreen2695
    @martinagreen2695 12 років тому +2

    This NEVER gets old! I keep playing the video over and over! I would have laved to trainwatch at this location in person! I could watch for hours, And enjoy the sound of the engines at full power working. I grew up in a train town myself! when we were kids, We lived not too far from the katy depot in denison TX. and my grandfather used to work at a railyard in the west part of town. Which was also a tar plant.

  • @biggie643
    @biggie643  12 років тому +4

    an all day trip there is all you need, it truly is amazing, you can hear the engine from miles away

  • @hughvane
    @hughvane 9 років тому +7

    I love the delicious irony of the very first container wagon with the Swift logo!

  • @pointyguitarz
    @pointyguitarz 12 років тому +3

    This is one heck of a vid! Great capture! I used to live in Bakersfield for years and my father and I chased Santa Fe and Southern Pacific freight through these mountains! Love the Loop!

  • @P90F55
    @P90F55 11 років тому +8

    Usually trains can't restart after stalling without getting more power. Maybe that BNSF stopped for signal 3526 and the crew waited for a better light. But what do I know I just work the UP mountain pool over Tehachapi.

  • @sfinjuneer
    @sfinjuneer 10 років тому +5

    I work this mountain and often times the engines will over heat going through the tunnels. They reduce their load and sometimes wont come back up unless we stop and let them cool down.

    • @formidable38
      @formidable38 10 років тому +2

      Ah yeah, they automaticly de-rate themselves until they come back in to exceptable limits don't they? I reckon that may have happened here.

    • @PaulMauser
      @PaulMauser 9 років тому +3

      Would it help if they didn't have such restricted emissions?

    • @dundonrl
      @dundonrl 9 років тому +3

      Paul Mauser if you don't mind burning up your diesel engines..

  • @jschmid
    @jschmid 11 років тому +6

    The sound in this vid is incredible.

  • @supertouring
    @supertouring 11 років тому +3

    Awsome video, Awsome location, it's on my bucketlist of places to go. Well done.

  • @cvgeeps
    @cvgeeps 11 років тому +4

    One of the more interesting Prototype videos I viewed this week

  • @MasterBear2
    @MasterBear2 11 років тому +2

    Through experience, I have found out that the GE's will reduce power if they overheat; if either the radiator fluid gets too warm, or the traction motors don't get even air to cool them. They are also known to get "Hot Diodes" and would drop all their power. BTW, darn good video. Hopefully I will visit Tehachapi one of these days. A retired BNSF Engineer.

  • @normanmcgill9532
    @normanmcgill9532 7 років тому +2

    I can't believe that whole train doesn't get pulled right off the tracks.

  • @bkriegel95
    @bkriegel95 10 років тому +5

    A stall and a meet! What a day for you!

  • @terrellfarms1
    @terrellfarms1 12 років тому +5

    I would be willing to bet a locomotive fell down for some reason. They probably got it back up and running is the reason they got the train restarted so easy. The only other explanation would be the addition of helpers but none of them were added.

    • @paelgin
      @paelgin 6 років тому +1

      Terry Presnal, I have seen an MU lose control of one loco in the lashup. That loco was spinning it's wheels, adding very little to the pulling power of the string of locos. The crew had to break the train and double the hill, taking about 2 hours for a 5 minute climb.
      Phil in gorgeous Young Harris, Georgia, USA

  • @soupdragon12345
    @soupdragon12345 11 років тому +3

    i know what they did? they put the two pick up trucks on the front and that gave it the extra hp to get up the loop..lol. nice video

  • @GeDoBa
    @GeDoBa 10 років тому +1

    A metallic sound like tinnitus, produced from the pressure between wheelsets and tracks. Unbelieveable the stress in the couplers behind the leading locomotives! We in Bielefeld/Germany decided to use a higher quality of tracksteel in our tube. So we have to change the wheelsets more often. But that was cheaper as the build in of new tracks. And the traffic can go on around the clock!

  • @RODALCO2007
    @RODALCO2007 11 років тому +2

    Awesome video, that is a very long train. I was expecting one or two bankers at the back.
    Restarting that train must have been an enormous effort for those 4 loco's. Unless they had equipment failure prior to stalling.

  • @barrywinters1142
    @barrywinters1142 7 років тому +8

    I think he stopped for pizza delivery

  • @TheCAT3512
    @TheCAT3512 12 років тому +2

    The best sounding engine on Tehachapi was the 645E3 you cuold hear them 20 to 25 minutes before the train arrived at the loop

  • @seabulls69
    @seabulls69 12 років тому +1

    No big surprise here. I was talking to a BNSF engineer in Larkspur, CO and he said that they were notorious for assigning "just enough" power to a train. If one engine goes out (most likely a DC traction locomotive which cannot handle run 9 at such a low speed for extended duration) you're forced to stop and cool the motors.

  • @tarmac2001
    @tarmac2001 9 років тому +3

    The setup of the NS dash 9 at 4000hp instead of 4400hp as the BNSF ones is probably what did the train in on the grade.

    • @tarmac2001
      @tarmac2001 9 років тому

      Yes, I know it's more about tractive effort and AC locomotives provide more of it than DCs. My comment was more about the locomotive consist and the NS unit in particular. I can go on in more details, but I hate typing a lot.

    • @utubewatcher806
      @utubewatcher806 8 років тому

      +tarmac2001 a door is open on the 2nd BNSF loco at 14:41, so best guess is issues with that unit.

  • @rsubram24
    @rsubram24 8 років тому +1

    Beautiful loop, how to reach this view point? Where should I park my car ? Lovely video.

    • @Denniss7420
      @Denniss7420 8 років тому +1

      +Ramanathan Subramanian (rsubram24) Park at the Historical landmark and walk.

    • @rsubram24
      @rsubram24 8 років тому +1

      Denniss7420 Thanks for the info.

  • @timb393
    @timb393 6 років тому +1

    like it reason nice view and excellent for field trip.

  • @arzan1980
    @arzan1980 11 років тому +2

    A masterpiece.

  • @technotrains7954
    @technotrains7954 10 років тому +2

    Fascinant les trains aux U S A.On ne verra pas une choses pareille en France.

  • @Ischaue
    @Ischaue 12 років тому +1

    Super Video!

  • @09JDCTrainMan
    @09JDCTrainMan 8 років тому +3

    Should've been a UP train. BTW, it didn't stall, chances are they didn't wanna snap a coupler. They probably would've stalled though.

  • @Cornelu
    @Cornelu 12 років тому +1

    Great catch!

  • @MrDogTales
    @MrDogTales 8 років тому +2

    Push boys!

  • @denray6783
    @denray6783 11 років тому +1

    Great video. Sounds like a lot of stress on the track with the heavy cars and locos.

  • @JimTLonW6
    @JimTLonW6 10 років тому

    Fascinating; being out of the US I don't know anything about this operation; do they have a depot where additional locomotives can await trains to assist over the summit?

  • @MrFreddarama
    @MrFreddarama 12 років тому +1

    Great video! Thanks for sharing it here. When do you go to the loop? Id love to watch trains there. Thanks!

  • @zenzaleni
    @zenzaleni 10 років тому

    super video thank you, what always amazes me is how they never appear to "pinch off" ...thank you again.. Baz

  • @christopherajoo5813
    @christopherajoo5813 9 років тому

    Realy good video and an awesome place

  • @Espeelover
    @Espeelover 11 років тому

    The Dash-8s are with CN now. The Warbonnets BNSF ordered as well as the ATSF Warbonnets are still being used and I see them often, I doubt any are scrapped. Even the ATSF SD40-2s I see every once in a while, especially around Barstow. As to "up here", I see them nearly every time I go to Tehachapi if you mean Tehachapi as "up here".

  • @RANDALLJ1959
    @RANDALLJ1959 11 років тому +1

    NOW THATS A GREAT VIDEO

  • @jackcapewell4373
    @jackcapewell4373 2 роки тому

    Hey Trent, did some helpers come and help pull?? I didn't see a clip of them????

  • @poseidon116
    @poseidon116 12 років тому

    Ottimo lavoro come sempre,saluti dalla lontana Sicilia.

  • @RyanHatterer-Ryanns999
    @RyanHatterer-Ryanns999 10 років тому

    To answer some the questions in the comments, NO AC motors don't over heat, and the head end power is anywhere from 16,000HP to 17,200HP, base on if the units are 4,000HP or 4400HP.

  • @KevinBenecke
    @KevinBenecke 6 років тому +1

    Why didn't you continue to film the second train? Did it stall too?

  • @JOSEALVIM100
    @JOSEALVIM100 9 років тому +2

    Um espetáculo magnífico! A inteligência humana é simplesmente um dom que precisa ser preservada e sempre utilizada para o bem, não é mesmo?

  • @johndirks8255
    @johndirks8255 11 років тому

    Igot you on the diodes, are they AC, or DC traction, does it make a , diff.? AC traction really wipes out DC, I"ve seen GE ac"S start out on 3 and 1/2 % gradd With 12,000 tons , incredible Machines!!

  • @RRYankfan
    @RRYankfan 12 років тому

    Locomotives have the most tractive effort when already moving and less when starting. So the less tractive effort means that it wont spin its wheels and stall again. They more than likely waited to see if they could get help or permission to move again.

  • @CaliforniaZephyrProductions
    @CaliforniaZephyrProductions 11 років тому +1

    With a NS unit. Nice!!!

  • @MrFreddarama
    @MrFreddarama 12 років тому

    Great video.When do you get up the loop? Id love to watch trains up there.

  • @5292Nate
    @5292Nate 10 років тому

    Any idea what the HPT was on the train that stalled?

  • @martinagreen2695
    @martinagreen2695 12 років тому

    looks like a very busy loop. How many trains come through there per day?

  • @mauricewanink1452
    @mauricewanink1452 9 років тому

    What an awesome video!!

  • @angelan3878
    @angelan3878 11 років тому +1

    Wow that's one long train......

  • @biggie643
    @biggie643  12 років тому +2

    35 per day is the average

  • @FuZhixiang
    @FuZhixiang 6 років тому +1

    Maybe the engine was overheat or something? The train had pulled through the harshed part and been climbing down the hill.

  • @JohnnysTrainVideos
    @JohnnysTrainVideos 12 років тому +1

    This is a great video....

  • @alejandrotorresperez277
    @alejandrotorresperez277 Рік тому +1

    Chulada de diseño en las vias fereas

  • @TrainCrazy.
    @TrainCrazy. 9 років тому

    That was very cool to watch!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for sharing

  • @ecoRfan
    @ecoRfan 12 років тому

    Not enough power? Hm Gevo-D9-D9-D9 , how much did this weigh? It looks extremely long as it fills the landscape.

  • @formidable38
    @formidable38 11 років тому

    Kudos to you, that was just feckin epic!!!

  • @natemartin5175
    @natemartin5175 6 років тому +3

    The 2nd is an empty rail train

  • @Mkai2000
    @Mkai2000 8 років тому

    I wonder if that second locomotive overheated since the ground crew seemed to have gotten on it.

  • @JoaodaAline
    @JoaodaAline 12 років тому +1

    sensacional, magnífico!!!!

  • @ingebrecht
    @ingebrecht 6 років тому +1

    I think I can, I think I can, well maybe after a long rest I might...

  • @Storm10xx
    @Storm10xx 12 років тому

    Ya ever get any Warbonnets down there? btw nice video thumbs up! :)

  • @traindude32
    @traindude32 12 років тому

    Now how do you get to a perfect shot of the Tehachapi Loop like that?

  • @sleemcleod
    @sleemcleod 11 років тому

    True, this train is not long. the sharp curving is what is giving the impression that its long. thats why its climbing slowly and you hear the steal rubbing, It did not stall.

  • @saepulbukhori7182
    @saepulbukhori7182 6 років тому

    OH MY GOD, the greatest of God, the longest train in the world, nice videos , thank

  • @peckerneck79
    @peckerneck79 12 років тому

    .....about 390,000 lbs of pull before they break. Knuckles are designed to be the weak link by breaking to prevent string-lining derailments. Sorry for the long response. Just bored in a hotel.

  • @arthurhouston3
    @arthurhouston3 11 років тому +2

    Nice shot of track train. That was not a stallec train.

  • @MrSteamdog
    @MrSteamdog 9 років тому

    Thanks

  • @Cnw8701
    @Cnw8701 12 років тому +2

    If only if a DDA40X or a set of DD35's were used as helpers! LOL

  • @throttlejoc
    @throttlejoc 12 років тому

    Yep i agree, i a Loco Engineer in New Zealand, i would say Traction Mtr over heat, we get the same here and our old U26C locos with a Brightstar computer system in them does the same when down to a crawl on a hard grade

  • @BaronvonBavert
    @BaronvonBavert 12 років тому

    great video!!!

  • @duayneclarke8366
    @duayneclarke8366 6 років тому +2

    That son is one long ass train.

    • @SandBoxJohn
      @SandBoxJohn 6 років тому

      You obviously have never been to the loop. When I was out there in the late 1990s the SP ran trains twice that long with 9 of more units, 3 or 4 on the point, 3 mid train and 3 on the rear. The Santa Fe typically ran TOFC / COFC unit trains that would fit in Walong with 3 or 4 units on the point.

  • @Okanaganguy2021
    @Okanaganguy2021 10 років тому

    If they wet the tracks it would help the wheels slip reducing the friction on large turns like this making it easier to pull.

  • @gradnitzersl
    @gradnitzersl 12 років тому +1

    A new meaning I think I can Now I can't

  • @MrRCGNL
    @MrRCGNL 6 років тому

    Maybe the European approach of limiting the max train weight to 2000T isn't such a bad idea.
    We haul our trains over the Alps with only 2 loco's with 80kmh

  • @lailasalas
    @lailasalas 12 років тому

    @lotsoftrains123 I agree the train must had coupled middle and rear locomotives to help pushing. What about if cars could had uncoupled and caused a severe tragedy?

  • @larahartley7607
    @larahartley7607 9 років тому

    where were you standing to get the view at 5:15. we were just there and i did not get a good shot at all.

    • @trentiverson4626
      @trentiverson4626 8 років тому

      Top of the hill next to tunnel 10 right by all the rocks

  • @peckerneck79
    @peckerneck79 12 років тому

    Ok....here is my take, and I have first hand experience with this (BNSF Engineer). When climbing any grade that has the locomotives in Run8 for long periods of time at very slow speeds, the traction motors and diesel engines themselves get to a point where the cooling systems can not keep up. When this happens, the computer will start to de-rate (lower the power/energy output) of the locomotive. Often, there is a point of no return where even the slower speed.....

  • @russelsmith6172
    @russelsmith6172 9 років тому +1

    railroading at its best

  • @hectorlivesoundful
    @hectorlivesoundful 11 років тому +1

    Nice video

  • @biggie643
    @biggie643  12 років тому

    thanks

  • @biggie643
    @biggie643  12 років тому

    @lotsoftrains123 Right, this train never went above 15 mph ever since it hit caliente

  • @biggie643
    @biggie643  11 років тому

    have you been to the loop before?

  • @wolfen216
    @wolfen216 11 років тому

    you do know railroads consider a stall once a train gets below 5 mph. It's the engineers choice on weather to set the air then stop of try to keep going.

  • @RRYankfan
    @RRYankfan 12 років тому

    They are moving at a RAGING speed of 5 mph! Wow olol.

  • @totallygonegearhead2
    @totallygonegearhead2 12 років тому

    Ribbon-rail train had priority?

  • @biggie643
    @biggie643  12 років тому +1

    i go all the time but i would say fall is the best time

  • @Cnw8701
    @Cnw8701 12 років тому

    Sigh... hopefully this can be seen on the Tennessee Pass again if BNSF purchases the line!

  • @biggie643
    @biggie643  12 років тому

    very interesting, i did not know that, thanks for the info

  • @prithvinabhan8125
    @prithvinabhan8125 8 років тому

    wont the first wagon's coupler just break with such a huge load behind it ?

    • @MarkRose1337
      @MarkRose1337 7 років тому

      Yeah, there is a 2.9 MN limit on the couplers. That's one reason why when they use additional locomotives to get the train up the hill they're at the back.

  • @peckerneck79
    @peckerneck79 12 років тому

    I've seen 120k while dropping the throttle in 8 going downhill on a Z train. What you asking? BTW, nice car videos.

  • @divox9pqr
    @divox9pqr 6 років тому

    What is the purpose for such round a bout trackage. With the resources that BNSF has, they could afford to construct a bypass through this mountainous region

  • @Gracebeliever077
    @Gracebeliever077 11 років тому

    Stall or Recrew doesn't matter... Great video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @TrainDr101
    @TrainDr101 11 років тому

    This train appears to have enough hp/ton ratio to deal w/ the grade. The long train is binding up on the extremely tight curves this hill is know for. Curves create drag& the tighter the curve plus the longer the train, the more drag there will be. Woodford to Marcel is one of the areas w/ the worst curvature & it looks like it caught up to the power & caused them to overheat the traction motors. GE specifies that youhave to stop for 20min to let hem cool if your speed drops at full throttle.

  • @Joe_Carman
    @Joe_Carman 12 років тому

    didnt you see that the train continued without any help after stoping for a moment, if that train had lost traction becouse of the weight of the equipment it was pulling , that train could not continue any more. those locomotives are dc powered and they have to run at sertain speed in notch 8, if not they overheat the conmutators on traction motors becouse amps are to high ,other reazon are turbos, if engine is keept on notch 8 for to long they overheat and engines prootect their selves

  • @Landaux
    @Landaux 12 років тому

    Arent there any HELPER UNITS on this train?

  • @gviper7
    @gviper7 12 років тому

    for a stalled train it sure stopped and started on a grade okay. Wonder if it ran out of sand or the locomotives had to be spanked or given a pep talk!

  • @Paulo-qg3md
    @Paulo-qg3md 9 років тому +1

    Muito bom !!!

  • @jmarcos18
    @jmarcos18 10 років тому +4

    Congratulations11...Brazil

    • @jmarcos18
      @jmarcos18 10 років тому

      Congratulations! ...Brazil

  • @Espeelover
    @Espeelover 11 років тому

    Did you see how long the train was? The train was a few hundred feet too long, it wouldn't have even fit in Walong.

  • @RRYankfan
    @RRYankfan 12 років тому

    no, they just couldnt pull any harder and just lost traction. They just waited to get help or let the locomotives reload.