SHH Shifter Review | Long term review | €100 Shifter
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- The SHH Shifter is developed and manufactured by a small company in Spain, in Europe. Their modest looking product packs a punch and an amazing price at only €98! They take a few weeks to make, but it's worth the wait. Check out www.shiftershh.com
Start: 0:00
1. Introduction: 0:43
2. First Impressions: 1:40
3. Price: 2:55
4. Build Quality: 4:09
5. Installation: 4:53
6. H-Pattern: 5:57
7. Sequential: 6:52
8. Customisation: 8:06
9. Adjustment: 9:06
10. Final Thought: 10:31
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Thanks Laurence and everyone else for your words. We are really overloaded and we apologize for it, but we can't really do anything about it... We are working as fast as we can but thanks to you all we are selling more than we can build... Please, if you order one, be patient, it finally arrives! :P
Keep doing what you do! I hope that you are making some money from it! You deserve it so much. You are filling a gap in sim racing which is only occupied by you right now. I can’t imagine someone providing a better product for less money. We are very grateful!
Mine arrived a few days ago, and it's great. I do believe that you should really make a metal version of this shifter, that would be amazing. The extra cost for the product would be justified. I'm going to line the inside of mine with rubber strips to lessen the clock-clock sound of the plastic. Well done, please keep up the good work!! Highly recommended.
I love my shifter after having it for a year. If I had one suggestion to improve it would be to adapt the desk clamp mechanism to a single screw design with a knob (similiar to the TH8A's clamp) rather than the three smaller thumb screws currently in use. This would make it easier to clamp on an off. Otherwise, it's awesome.
@shh shifter i got mine a couple of weeks ago and it is truly brilliant. please keep doing what your doing!
@@SB-tp3yw Of course! We never stop :)
I love my SHH shifter, had it just over a year now and it hasn't skipped a beat, real solid piece of kit, I've been very impressed as well.
I've had the same experience with my SSH. Great piece of kit at the right price.
Yeah it’s so so good. I love the company’s integrity. They haven’t raised the price to make a quick buck. It really feels like they’re on the side of the consumer
@@LaurenceDusoswa I hope this holds up. My case just split in two. I'm hoping it was an unfortunate fluke. I also feel the same about the company and their efforts, so I resisted making a video about my situation yet. There is a lot of praise for them, and I haven't found any negative experiences yet. I hope to not be the first. This just happened today at random playing WreckFest.
i’ve got one and it’s F*king awesome. it actually feels like a gear shifter and not a gaming peripheral. if you have a TH8a already, sell it and buy one of these and still have change left over! honestly cannot recommend enough 👌🏼👌🏼
Yep! I feel the same! Thanks for the comment!
This product works great out of the box, no fancy add-ons or overpriced mods required.
Price plus shipping costs as much as Th8a to my location.
The internal mechanism to change from H to Seq in 2secs is what sold me.
Yeah it's totally worth it! Enjoy!
Another one of Laurence's videos exactly representing my own experience and thoughts.
Just nothing to add except: The manufacturer is a nice guy - extremely fast with answering questions and helping out; I got answers to stupid questions within a few hours. Quite a contrast to some other "FANAtic TEChnicians". But I guess I scared him a bit by offering free translations of his website and other documents into German. I am a pro translator, sometimes offering free translations for products I personally like and wish to support - but maybe he feared a kind of scam. :D
Thank you, Laurence - for another "this is the real world" review without whistles and bells.
Thanks Jörn :) I try to avoid clickbait and sensationalism. I know that doesn’t give the ‘views’ but it’s better for the products and the channel in the long run I think.
Thanks for taking the time to comment and thanks for sharing your experience :)
At last, it's THE review
It's one of the few simracing products that really deserves some spotlight, and judging from how they had to close the ability to buy it due to the backlog of orders they had, I think they finally got plenty of it.
It’s such a great little product. It’s unapologetic and over achieving. I cannot imagine anyone being disappointed unless they have silly high expectations. I’d gladly use it as my main shifter.
I've ordered mine on 10th of January,waiting to be shipped on 23rd of February.Thank you for the good review,I think I saw all the available reviews about it on internet,I had time waiting lol..This one is the best of all,good work! you got a subscriber.
Thank you very much! The product deserves the attention and i hope for them that they get loads of sales. The sun racing world deserves this product and the company deserves to make loads of sales :)
My SHH Newt2 arrived today, mounted and did some initial testing in sequential mode. I've very impressed so far given it's price point, and your long term review inspires confidence that I'll be using it for years to come.
Yep I actually have it mounted to my rig again. It’s not as good as a high end shifter but it gives everything you need from a range of motion point of view with decent resistance and great functionality and durability. It’s a real winner
Great review Laurence that covers everything I needed to know to help my decision. The price, performance, easy switching of H and sequential patterns are just what I wanted. I ordered one which is arriving any day now and can't wait to take it for a spin!
The guy who runs it is really helpful too. I emailed to ask if I could change my choice of top plate, and he was very responsive and helpful in giving me advice on what to pick. Really good customer service considering they seem to have a lot of orders
Great review! I'm going to have to try and pick one up now, it's exactly what I'm looking for.
It’s the business! I’m very happy with it
Thanks for the review! Just ordered one of these with the 6+R chrome plate. I've been using the paddle shifters on my Thrustmaster, but I just know it's gonna be a lot more fun with H pattern and sequential shifting 😁
I subbed to your channel because of this video and your clear grasp of budget and value perspectives.
Thanks ❤️! Most people will never need to upgrade again when they buy this. It’s incredible value!
This was a really well made and well written video, I was surprised to see that you had only 6.5K subscribers. I was looking for a shifter that felt like less of a wet fart than the Logitech shifter at an affordable price, and this one seems perfect. Thanks for the video!
You’re very welcome :) this is only a part time channel, and it’s less than 2 years old :) subscribers will come with time. Quality beats quantity :)
Excellent review. I keep meaning to order one, just 5 days to wait before they'll open orders again.
It’s worth it! Totally worth it
Great review. Exactly what I'm looking for. Sold!
You won’t regret it! Thanks for commenting
Great vid LD, worth the wait!
Thanks mister flea :) totally worth the wait ;) both fir the video and for the shifter ;)
Great review as usual Laurence!
Thanks Ray! It took a surprising amount of effort to do this review :p
Great review! I'm going to be getting one of these soon.
You’ll love it! Value like this doesn’t come along every day
Nice review Laurence, this shifter is awesome value for the price.
It would. A good value even if it only did h pattern. Doing sequential as well, in a rewarding way, is amazing
By the way, that black rubber that you can see over the thread adapter in the rod, it should be removed as soon as the shifter is unboxed... it is only a protection for the shipment hehehe. If you look closely, you will realize that it is not letting you insert the knob properly!
Ah I didn’t know that. The knob sits good and tight so I never even thought there might be an issue :) thanks!
Also, it means a lot to me when the creators of products take the time to comment on my videos. Thank you kindly and keep doing what you do because the sim racing community needs you!
i love your shifter thx so much
I just picked up mine and have a suggestion.
In the H-pattern mode with the six plus reverse plate, two slightly longer guide ramps to the left of fifth/sixth gear slots would allow for less missed shifts.
I plan on having a friend 3D print one next week.
The last thing I would suggest is a 90 degree USB down (B) cable for the side of the shifter. I just ordered one.
As if im getting 2 of these also seen a usb handbrake on aliexpress for €30 really good review buddy keep it up need more people looking at the lower end companies never heard of these until your video awesome cheers just subscribed
Thanks ❤️ welcome! Yeah I love the more affordable stuff
I've had mine for over a year now and am still very happy with it. While a metal version might be nice, the engineering behind a change like that might not result in such an affordable option and may only serve to increase its cost.
Yea correct. For some, it may be worth it though :)
I have managed to contact them on Facebook when they weren't operating due to high amount of orders and managed to get one that they scratched at fabrication from them for 80 :))). It works frikin perfectly. It was just that scratch that I can't even see. That's the moment when I fell in.love with them :))
Hahaha that’s awesome! Well done!
Thanks Laurence for the review! I've been trying to decide whether I should get the vnm shifter or this shh I think I'm gonna go for the shh just because I won't use a h pattern everyday (mainly for drifting etc.) Thanks for the review love the channel!
Yeah for casual use and if you’re on a budget, you can’t go wrong. The shh is exceptional value
i have bought just 2 days ago, amazing, is better than i though, you can adjust change softer or harder, very very happy, works perfectly like SEC/H or handbrake on Dirt 2.0
Yeah it’s a brilliant product
One part I noticed about a third of the way into the vid, you mentioned it has 3 unused button functions. In the future I could totally see them offering an "upgraded" version that integrates a button or switch or even toggle switch (resets to center and either way it's flicked is a button) that could be fed through the center rod to the circuit board. This would be awesome for truck simulator as it would give an insanely easy way to switch between ranges or split gears. A custom aftermarket mod to do this would also be most welcomed.
Alternatively, it could be used as a simple button that, when pressed, acts as an e-brake in games. While not as good as a dedicated brake lever it would provide a very cheap and easy option for a lot of people, warranted they don't accidentally hit it while normally shifting.
yeah exactly, there's definitely room for expansion
I love how you do b-roll for computer sim gear in outdoor environments. I basically like "Wait...I know this guy's reviews. He's pretty good." It's your trademark at this point, you can't change now.
Hahaha thanks ❤️❤️❤️
I've been using a Fanatec shifter for 5 years. I just bought the SHH as a comparison. I immediately fell in love with the SHH. To me it is easier to shift and feels just right in both H-pattern or sequential. I'll be selling my Fanatec.
I said similar at the time of this video and people told me I was silly and that it couldn't possibly be the case. This SHH is small and mighty. It looks like a toy but it is hardy like a terrier. I absolutely love it.
Great review! Just received mine and love it
Sweet! Nice one dude! It’s such a cool little product :) what was your previous shifter?
@@LaurenceDusoswa the TH8A with mods still the SHH is a better product
I finally pulled the trigger. It'll be 6-8 weeks before I get it in hand. I went with the 6 gear H pattern in chrome.
NICE! you'll love it!
"Spain, in europe." I'm glad we got that out of the way. I thought he was talking about a different Spain for a second.
Can never be too careful 😂😂😂
The switch between sequential and H pattern modes basically lets the SHH appear as two seperate devices. This has proven very handy in Assetto Corsa. I could not have set bindings for both at the same time otherwise and I believe the game even changes the shifter setup in response to the hardware it detects. So the shift between sequential and H-pattern is easy and the switch makes it extremely convenient on the game side of things too.
Yep 100% it’s a great device, well thought out and it’s wayyyyy better than you would think it is.
Since this just picked up a like I want to clarify. The switch makes the PC see the sifter as a completely different device. So once it's setup as H-pattern once and then setup in sequential mode once switching between the modes should be just a matter of twisting the handle and flipping the switch with no complaints from the game assuming it's done from a menu not mid race of course. If the shifter is not recognized as an SHH it is no trouble at all to bind it as a generic controller for any game. Compatibility should never be an issue and if it is it's the game's fault. The only way switching from h-pattern to sequential can be easier is by having separate dedicated shifters.
Sounds great a full metal version would be awsome and complete over take the compation as it would beat the T8HA in looks too!
Yeah a metal version would be amazing but would cost significantly more
Think I'll be ordering one when their current order lock is removed. Great review as always!
Thanks nax! I expect them to sell out soon!
I bought one months ago and even then there was around a six week wait.
Thorn came out very recently. To replace the Newt2. I'm currently replacing the spring in my Newt2. Its too loud and harsh when you go back to neutral. And trying to find ways to weaken the torsion springs so it feels light when the gearbox goes left or right. Other changes I made is have the whole shifter facing back to front so I can have the reverse next to first gear instead of next to sixth gear. Remember to re-map sixth gear as first gear, fifth gear to second gear and so on.
I got the th8a shifter but I ended up buying the shh shifter after watching your review.
the SHH is a better shifter, for sure. You should be able to sell your TH8a easily though
Good day. Its compatible with fanatec csl dd (with CSL elite pedals) please? Thanks
Would you recommend the table clamp for a Simetik K3 cockpit? (Uses the same shifter mount that you have and shown at 5:20)
As a potential downside, at 5:38 it looks like a fair bit of flex between the housing and the clamp. I'm not sure if the other mounting options would solve that though.
For the upsides, I would like the flexibility of left/right positioning and low footprint of the clamp (so I can put a stream deck behind the shifter on the bracket, since the clamp is only 55mm deep)
The clamp definitely flexes by I would still recommend it. I usually had it bolted to the shifter mount though without the clamp
Can you please tell me since I have a K2 SIMETIK cockpit which mounting option did you use?
I used the table clamp on the k2 shifter mount
I so wish SHH would create an ATS shifter solution. Perhaps the knob could plug into a port added to future shifters, but even an SHH solution plugged in via it's own USB would likely make SHH the go to shifter for truck sims as alternative solutions are expensive and sometimes sketchy. None seem clearly compatible with the included SHH threaded adapter either. I actually haven't played ATS since getting my shifter because I don't want to use automatic while owning a shifter and I don't want to use keys or buttons on my wheel in place of switches on the shifter probably more so since I once hauled grain with an 18 wheeler for a season on a farm. Anything but the switches on the shifter is a severe setback to the truck driving experience especially when the game is otherwise bringing back the feelings of driving a real truck which for me was a special experience and privilege not just a job.
great comment! Sorry for the late reply. You should message them
Love your review... Do you have your review for the VNM shifter already?
Not yet! Still creating it. My full time job has been crazy busy but I hope to have the review soon
@@LaurenceDusoswa oh okay take your time... Maybe a quick summary is it good or bad or game changing?
Is this usb compatible with ps4, ive been looking for shifters for ps4 and this one looks good. Im also getting a thrustmaster t150, is this shifter compatible with the t150?
nope, not as far as i know. maybe via drivehub
So because of the weirdness that is Australia, the fanatec ends up costing only ~1.75x the price at the moment, I'm tempted by the SHH but wonder what's your thoughts with that kinda price ratio?
the easy answer: Buy the one you can afford as you will not have regrets regardless. they're both great products, the fanatec is a better shifter, but the SHH is far better than its price suggests.
Can you adjust it pretty heavy though? Like it feels realistic and not like the G29 shifter.
Or do I need the fanatec for this?
You can make it quite heavy. Like a LOT heavier than the logitech or thrustmaster. But even though the experience is realistic, the sound is not as realistic as the fanatec or VNM shifters.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Thanks! Look like fanatec is best for me. Just hope it doesnt misshift!
the only negative thing I can say about my newt is due to the cable coming out of the housing on the right side, i need to mount it on the right, US style. I am Australian, so I prefer it on the left, but if I mounted it there, my leg would foul up against the cable header and possibly damage the USB plug on the board. Everything else is amazing however, I just wish I could find some after market shifter knobs that fit ;)
yeah I had the same issue but was able to mount it slightly further away on my rig. Great comment!
do you perhaps know if the 1 month delivery delay applies when iam in a neighbouring country?
That’s something I won’t be able to answer but if you message them directly, they will be able to tell you. I must say that shipping from Vietnam to Ireland only took 4 days or so.
@@LaurenceDusoswa yes, i messaged them already, they said that yes, the delay will still apply due to the amount of orders.
This is the only option imo. Unless you're maximizing your rig. This is simply the best shifter you can reasonably afford.
It’s such a great product!!!
2:32 Wait a minute. When i play Forza horizon 4 and im not in gear, does it still have a neutral ? Thats really important for me. Does it have a neutral like the logitech/ th8a ? If someone could answer this, i would be very grateful.
Yeah it behaves as a gearbox should. When you’re not in gear, you’re in neutral.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Great ! Thank you for responding. I will order next month
it seems i cant find anywhere the desk mount in the internet so i can 3d print it );
hahaha awesome! Enjoy!
@@LaurenceDusoswa wait wha... Forget it thank you for the kind reply :)
Nice review LD! Just one thing: I thought you were not supposed to move the shifter left or right in sequential mode cause it may damage the internals? I remember this is a warning in the manual.
I bought an SHH Hawk shifter for like 70 euros because that unit was a demo unit or surplus or something. It was amazing value, and I have been a happy SHH owner for two/three years. A friend of mine came to my place to try out my set up, and the instance he started shifting, he said that he wanted the one to replace his TH8A.
I didn’t see that warning but it hasn’t damaged mine. I simply showed it in the video so that people understand what they’re buying :) thanks for the comment!
I’m not surprised about your friend either. People never believe me when I say the shh is better than the th8a
@@LaurenceDusoswa I just checked the user manual on their website, and there indeed is a note showing you shouldn't move it left/right in seq mode. I just point it out just in case real men like you who don't read manual might have missed it ;)
www.shiftershh.com/en/content/12-user-manual
Hahahaha :)
@@zsjdddfw It can't break only moving left/right but it could suffer a bit if you engage the gear in sq mode (except the 3rd and 4th obviously)
At 12.22, what is that shifter on the left?
That’s the VNM shifter. Review coming soon.
@@LaurenceDusoswa thanks, just found your first impressions
Would this be worth it even to ship outside of Europe?
We are trying to improve the shipping prices in and out of Europe. For now USA and CAN shippings have an important reduction of price
What's the other shifter on the left at 12:23 ??
That's the VNM shifter! I did a review on it ;)
ua-cam.com/video/x49qv_vaaIY/v-deo.html
@@LaurenceDusoswa I found it, and decided the SHH was the one for me! Great work, loved your reviews.
is it also good as a handbrake?
It’s decent but not as good as a proper handbrake
This vs a g25 moded shifter?
I can’t answer that with authority as I don’t have a modded Logitech shifter. Sorry :)
That is a comparison Im looking forward to!
@@LaurenceDusoswa this one looks sick though
This or a modded TH8a?
This. That said, I have not tried all TH8a mods
They should make a steering wheel too! that would be nasty!
Could be cool :)
@@LaurenceDusoswa you still replying to comments? madlad
Alright I’m going to order one right now. To replace my Logitech shifter.
Good call! You won’t regret it!
My shh shifter arrived Yesterday But for some reason not working.. Nothing recognised, nothing work.. plugged in with USB, nothing happened.. Better spend money for another product.. Too many people have this issues...
Thrustmaster feels way more solid with the (almost) full metal contruction. The flex in the mounting bracket on this is ridiculous... Also there is no way the plastic or carbon guide plates can compare to metal. They will definately break after some abuse. I would place this above G29 shifter but definately below the TH8A (especially with the click mod which does not cost that much).
I agree on the flext, but the desk clamp has way less flex. I gave my SHH plenty of abuse over the space of several months and nothing broke. I'm just curious, have you owned/used the SHH?
I need a 8speed
oh yeah? for which car(s)?
I wish more games did a better job of letting me drive paddle cars with h pattern. I never want to not use my shifter.
that's an odd combo but I can see why you'd like it for the fun of it. Yeah most titles don't like that at all
Get a right angled USB adapter
yeah I thought about it but due to the slight recess i don't think it would plug in fully
@@LaurenceDusoswa yeah I noticed that after I commented and thought it might be impossible
@@stuart1409 You can move the electronic board about 10mm to the outside because it can be mounted in two positions.
@@shhshifter5053 cool, I’ll be ordering one soon
It looks _good_ ?? It looks like a kid slapped it together in an afternoon with a 3d printer and some bolts he found in his dad's shed . After some time no matter how robust it will crack and break after proper use .
I have kicked the crap out of mine. Surprisingly robust. It’s the best value shifter on the market. It’s easy to judge based on looks I guess and yes it does look like a DIY toy. But it’s so much better :)
@@LaurenceDusoswa To each their own ; I look for that robust and realistic 'ka-chunk' when shifting between gears . It is difficult to simulate linkages and their strange ways / forces of course . . It is more than just making the computer go from position 1 to position 2 for me - my first car was a 4 speed manual and when sitting at a light I would play with the shifter because it had such a satisfying mechanical way about it , yknow? - so I have my eye set on something like the Moza shifter for 149$ . It has that ka-chunk while not making me poor at the same time .
Meh. It flex a lot. This will not last
It lasts :) trust me. I used it for 8 months without any issues :)
I actually bought the newt2 version because of this review. So after using the shifter for a while, I've found that there's a manufacturing flaw in the mounting plate. After heavy use I found that there's a void (a gap) in the top plate ( the one that sits on top of the screws) on the "tooth" edges. If you use it very heavily it'll snap off because of the void, but it'll still function fine. Also, I'm not sure if it's because of my desk width of the smoothness of the material (or I might be yanking on it too hard idk) , I'm also finding myself having to constantly retightening the screws when I'm really using it.
how wide is it?
I think around 10cm. I don't have it here to measure it.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Thanks a lot!